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Sunday, December 08, 2019

Mailvox: dealing with the uncomfortable truth

There may be hope for this gamma, as he has proactively taken steps to avoid familiar temptations.
Thank you for teaching me the SSH. After I watched Voxiversity videos, I learned that I exhibit stereotypical Gamma traits like my father. At first, I lied to myself about the obvious, typical rationalizations and excuses to maintain the narcissistic delusion bubble.

Although you may disregard evolutionary theory, I believe that Gammas are neuro-atypical genetic mutants who are strongly predisposed to these abnormal behaviors. Most Gammas probably have clinical psychological disorders. Unfortunately, this psychological type is most covetous of power but the least likely to use it for the common good due to narcissism and pathological lying. I withdrew from positions of self-serving leadership which discontinued the need for me to lie.

Recently, I have begun taking steps to become a Delta: lifting weights, lying less often, losing the entitlement attitude, and embedding myself with a male hierarchy. If unaltered neuro-atypical Gammas have power, the social hierarchy of civilization destabilizes because of their effeminate, pathological behavior. Gammas are toxic because they do not accept constructive criticism.
Besides a dedication to admitting the truth, however personally painful, perhaps the second most important thing for the Gamma who seeks to rise above his behavioral patterns to do is to intentionally abjure his instinctual ambitions for pursuing leadership positions. A Gamma cannot be an effective leader or teacher, which is why both he and others will tend to benefit from his refusal to assume positions of relative authority or superiority.

The primary focus for a Gamma who wishes to alter his socio-sexual status should be developing Delta patterns of competence, reliability, and trustworthiness. After all, the journey of a thousand leagues begins with a single step. Dreams of Alpha leadership or Sigma independence are understandable, but they are ultimately foolish and irrelevant fantasies that will only feed the Gamma's delusion bubble.

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72 Comments:

Blogger artensoll December 08, 2019 8:56 AM  

Warms the cockles.

Blogger Caleb December 08, 2019 9:04 AM  

I can relate to this guy and his struggles. Thanks for sharing

Blogger wreckage December 08, 2019 9:10 AM  

A friend of mine works in mental health. I think it is fair to say gamma-tude is nowhere near a full-blown personality disorder. But it is currently held that even true mental pathology like schizophrenia can be managed to some extent by habits of clear thinking, careful use of mental rules, and forming good habits.
As these have become specialist knowledge rather than the universally accepted and expected mode of life, so have gammas become increasingly common.
Short version: it's treatable, we have always known how, and the things that work on it work on far, far worse disorders. Therefore proceed with confidence, determination, and good cheer.

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 08, 2019 9:15 AM  

"I believe that Gammas are neuro-atypical genetic mutants ..."

Ugh. Still can't give up the sense that he is somehow, secretly, special. But he shows promise.

Blogger Weak December 08, 2019 9:30 AM  

He's right that the gamma behavior is hard wired in there. Whether it's genetic or just calcified brain patterns from his developmental years doesn't matter. It will always be there.

Like a recovering alcoholic, a recovering gamma needs to be aware of how easy it is to backslide. A recovering gamma will be in a daily struggle with himself. But it's the right thing to do and the only way out.

Blogger Critias December 08, 2019 9:39 AM  

That's very well done on his part, I'd like to hear more about his embedding himself into a male hierarchy. I think that's really important.

Vox how helpful would it be if he also took up a skill he knows nothing about - say woodworking. Started from 0, make loads of mistakes and overtime built up competence and achievements. Then use the skills he's gained to help newcomers. If someone has limited time would that be a better use of it than one of the others listed, like lifting weights or how would you rank 'treatments'?

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim December 08, 2019 9:46 AM  

Adherence to God’s design of man and Christ’s example is the fast track to Gamma inoculation. Once you realize that the “temple” Jesus cleared was multiple acres in size, as well as what he actually said to the small hats(not nice at all and justifiably so) you start to understand that aggression and violence are merely tools, not taboos.
Vox has helped immensely by pointing to scripture and not putting the gamma spin on it from pop churchianity.

Blogger VD December 08, 2019 9:59 AM  

Then use the skills he's gained to help newcomers.

And that's where you went off track. The Gamma MUST give up the delusion that he's "helping" anyone. Even the most lunatic, deluded gammas who are banned from this blog operate under the illusion that they are "helping" the readers and me.

Simply maintaining his own Delta functionality will be sufficient challenge for the Gamma and will prove beyond the average one.

Blogger Rek. December 08, 2019 10:03 AM  

Neuro-atypical genetic mutant sounds like something Dr. Edward Dutton would say.

Just a label nothing else, nothing special. After all the okapi is just an okapi.

Blogger Rick December 08, 2019 10:05 AM  

An orthodox priest said a couple of things which have stayed with me:

“The purpose of the Bible is not to give you knowledge but to be transformed by it.” (You can change, and you should) vs our pro-narcissistic subversive culture which encourages you to “be yourself” and “love yourself.”

The other thing he said was, “God doesn’t want you to be good, he wants you to be saved.”

Blogger Shoji Kahn December 08, 2019 10:19 AM  

Men of any rank can become broken. I'm a natural Sigma that was raised by a very emotionally abusive extreme narcissist (possibly sociopath) single mother. Had I been a Delta I'm sure I would have become a full-blown gamma. Thankfully I ejected from that relationship relatively young, but not totally unscathed. Perhaps an advantage that other ranks have is their resilience in the face of emotional abuse.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 08, 2019 10:21 AM  

If someone has limited time would that be a better use of it than one of the others listed, like lifting weights
The whole point of things like lifting is that it theoretically forces self discipline.
If done properly, the effect would be to punish weakness and reward diligence. Two thing that are alien to the average gamma narcissist.

Blogger VD December 08, 2019 10:22 AM  

Men of any rank can become broken. I'm a natural Sigma that was raised by a very emotionally abusive extreme narcissist (possibly sociopath) single mother.

There are no "natural" ranks. The whole thing is SOCIO-sexual. The fact that you may have had potential for something else does not change what your experience and your interactions have made you. And while she didn't help, it wasn't Mommy who prevented you from dating the cheerleaders in high school.

Blogger CynicalMan December 08, 2019 10:25 AM  

I would like to see our Presidents categorized in the context of SSH.

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 08, 2019 10:28 AM  

Rek. wrote:Neuro-atypical genetic mutant ...

Just a label nothing else, ...


No. He still thinks he's an X man deep down.

Blogger Shoji Kahn December 08, 2019 10:36 AM  

Vox, I most certainly dated high status girls in high school. My only point is that a child in a blender will develop problems regardless. The Neuro-atypical genetic mutant comment is just more truth avoidance. Gammas are made. My mother was a master craftsman in that regard, She turned my brother into a total gamma. I was able to survive in a way that he couldn't. The only difference between the two of us is I always had a fuck you attitude as a kid that he didn't.

Blogger J Van Stry December 08, 2019 10:46 AM  

I personally believe the problem is in how many children are being raised these days, especially as many of them are being raised by the 'state', via schools.


Maybe you should see about a book on how to raise children next, so that they don't end up as Gammas. Attack the root of the problem.

Anonymous Anonymous December 08, 2019 10:52 AM  

can a gamma be good looking and athletic?

Blogger Cataline Sergius December 08, 2019 10:58 AM  

Rek. wrote:Neuro-atypical genetic mutant sounds like something Dr. Edward Dutton would say.

Just a label nothing else, nothing special. After all the okapi is just an okapi.


My own view is that they are high functioning autistics.

Blogger Rick December 08, 2019 10:59 AM  

Nickel Bear — I think it’s no accident that Vox says “trait.” It’s a hopeful way to look at the condition also.
How deeply is engrained, or how all-encompassing is the trait.

Blogger VD December 08, 2019 11:03 AM  

can a gamma be good looking and athletic?

The former is more likely than the latter. But remember, it's all fractal. Every sports team has its RELATIVE gammas.

Blogger Mauldication Bear December 08, 2019 11:07 AM  

Lifting weights and becoming a close friend to a strong alpha were the best things to ever happen to me right out of High School. Weight-lifting builds discipline, keeps your mind healthy, makes you attractive to the opposite sex, and makes guys want to be associated with you.

I ended up being roommates with the alpha after becoming daily lifting buds and joining the same fraternity. I can tell you it really eliminates any and all gamma behavior; it ultimately becomes unacceptable and you learn how unattractive it is, especially when women are around all the time.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia December 08, 2019 11:14 AM  

VD wrote:can a gamma be good looking and athletic?

The former is more likely than the latter. But remember, it's all fractal. Every sports team has its RELATIVE gammas.


Right.

See for example Antonio Brown or Colin Kaepernick.

Blogger Phelps December 08, 2019 11:15 AM  

My own view is that they are high functioning autistics.

No. They are just weird and creepy. Don't justify their bad behavior by pathologizing it.

Blogger Rick December 08, 2019 11:43 AM  

Mauldi— yes. My first real job out of art school was working with a bunch of ex-Navy guys — they were writing Navy technical manuals and they needed a tech illustrator. Best thing for me to be around better men (real men). Awful nice of them too, to accept me like that. Forever grateful.

Blogger MNW December 08, 2019 11:48 AM  

As can I

Blogger James Dixon December 08, 2019 11:53 AM  

> Like a recovering alcoholic, a recovering gamma needs to be aware of how easy it is to backslide.

The actions of various gammas in attacking Vox and this blog over the years, and Vox pointing them out, have been a tremendous help in identifying my own gamma tendencies.

Blogger Dire Badger December 08, 2019 12:02 PM  

The question is, is Gamma the disease, or the symptom?
The Patterns of behavior that Gammas display would be untenable in a less developed, more casually violent 'hard times' society. The behavior would either change, or the individual would likely be dead.

Nature versus nurture wise, I think Gamma is not entirely or even primarily biological. Gammas who frequently get a good ass kicking often overcome their behavior, which implies that NOT getting a good ass kicking is the root of their misbehavior.

Blogger Shoji Kahn December 08, 2019 12:06 PM  

> My own view is that they are high functioning autistics.

My working thesis is that Deltas, due to their natural desire to please others and be recognized for their skill, are particularly susceptible to becoming Gammas in a way that other ranks are more shielded from.

In my case, the near constant abuse resulted in a profoundly stunted ability to bond emotionally with women. I attribute that to my having to learn to turn off that ability as a very young kid in order to survive. Women have always been mostly sexual play things for me.

But, despite the same upbringing, I never became a Gamma like my brother did, who I believe in a healthy environment would have been a solid Delta. So I sometimes wonder whether there is a protective quality to other ranks, that while not immunizing one from damage, don't generally result in Gammahood.

Similar to Vox, I don't have any idea how female ranks work, but my sister became what is likely the female equivalent of Gamma. In fact, she's way more f'ed up than my brother, probably because women are emotional creatures by nature.

I find the subject rather fascinating since it hits very close to home. I also probably have more empathy for Gammas as a result, even though my natural instinct is to want to punch them in the face. And then punch them some more.

Blogger Ileftwhenowenstartedlovingmussies December 08, 2019 12:17 PM  

Owen bares all the qualities of a gamma. You bare all the qualities of a scammer. The wolves are biting a the bit for Owen to finally turn on you. No one is immune, just a matter of time. When he sees the money your pocketing ;)

Blogger VD December 08, 2019 12:26 PM  

When he sees the money your pocketing ;)

Why would you assume I hide any information from any of my partners?

Blogger Uncle Maffoo December 08, 2019 12:27 PM  

@29 I'd label you a Gamma based on your unprompted I-me-my word salad.

Blogger Haus frau December 08, 2019 12:43 PM  

My brother in law is a dry alcoholic. He has been homeless off and on for 10 years. Over the last 2 yrs he has borrowed $2k from us to get a car and get back on his feet. We knew he wouldn't pay it back though that was the condition. We basically gave him the rope to hang himself relationship wise. Brother in law found out my husband went to visit their other brother in texas for a men's weekend in the woods and he wasn't invited. He apparently expected an invite and for them to pay the expenses. We have some nasty gamma melt down texts threatening to beat my husband up in front of his family etc. It would be inexplicable without the ssh posts on this blog. My husband is cutting him loose. He's tired of the self serving manipulation after all the shit hes put his family through.

Blogger Rick December 08, 2019 12:59 PM  

Frau — is your brother in law the older or oldest brother of your husband?

Blogger Shane Bradman December 08, 2019 1:08 PM  

Shoji, go write your own blog. We don't want to hear it.

Blogger vmax71 December 08, 2019 1:24 PM  

a non-gamma would not write a mea culpa like this. a proper conversion: a gamma would quietly change and NEVER bring up his prior life due the extreme shame it would illicit.


jk......kind of.....lol

Blogger Haus frau December 08, 2019 1:43 PM  

Younger. He's the third son. Husband is oldest.

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 08, 2019 2:04 PM  

Weightlifting. What's good for the gamma is good for the gander.

Best way to wreck a gamma is to push him into a position where he must take action certain to wreck his delusions of alphadom.

I once goaded an irritating gamma, a retired Army Lt. Col., into trying to get me fired. He failed. In front of the entire 22-person firm, starting with the top three senior leaders, who rebuffed him in serial fashion.

After he was later fired by the firm's Apex Alpha, I received a copy of the memo he had written demanding my termination. I still have that scalp somewhere in my filing cabinet.

Destroy the gamma's pretenses. Destroy the gamma. And be swift about it.

Blogger lowercaseb December 08, 2019 2:25 PM  

He's off to a great start...I always found hitting the weights helps a lot when the gamma feelings of superiority or outrage sneak in. You can't lie to weights. Either you can lift it or you can't...and if you can, you start working on the ones you can't.

"Embrace the iron." It works. Just make sure you resist the urge to talk more about it than do it once you make it a habit.

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 08, 2019 2:54 PM  

Several past members of the Australian cricket team come to mind.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos December 08, 2019 3:03 PM  

Vox is a scammer on the model of the local grocery store. I show up, he lets me know what is available, I give him money, and he delivers on the goods and services promised. You’re projecting.

Blogger Fargle Gumpshite December 08, 2019 3:23 PM  

Why are you reciting your life story here get a clue bro.

Blogger DougW December 08, 2019 3:29 PM  

Vox (and any others who might have some insight), what's been your experience with gammas going well beyond themselves? For example, special operations and the like. Just wondering.....

Blogger OvergrownHobbit December 08, 2019 3:47 PM  

Perhaps as in intelligence, the distribution of "gammahood" is much broader in women.

Gamma cannot be an effective leader or teacher, which is why both he and others will tend to benefit from his refusal to assume positions of relative authority or

Many women fit this description, but not all. However every woman clamoring for the above certainly does.

Blogger Rick December 08, 2019 4:10 PM  

Frau — interesting. I’m the youngest of 3 sons and I cut loose the oldest who exhibits similar behavior you describe. He cannot stand to be anything less than the most important person in the group. He’s sort of a megalomaniac without the resources (thankfully). He is tall and good looking and people like him when they first meet him. It never lasts though. He has what looks like alpha behavior until he eventually becomes repellent to men and women (including his own daughters who also cut him loose). Compulsive liar too. Very aggressive intimidator. My son said he is a “mastermind“ which I think is an actual psychological personality type.
We had a good older/younger brother relationship until I became of “threatening age” to his position within the group.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 08, 2019 4:27 PM  

" I believe that Gammas are neuro-atypical genetic mutants who are strongly predisposed to these abnormal behaviors. Most Gammas probably have clinical psychological disorders."

Would rather pound my nuts flat with a hammer before engaging in any group therapy with gammas. Imagine what that would be like.


"Unfortunately, this psychological type is most covetous of power but the least likely to use it for the common good due to narcissism and pathological lying. I withdrew from positions of self-serving leadership which discontinued the need for me to lie."

And this is where it took me a long time to understand gammas and "why". A gamma who at least works to get into a position of power, like being the "subject expert" if the position requires it, might at best be tempered by the experience of getting there. As long as nobody dates the female coworker he's interested in then things could go smoothly.
But one of the possible reasons, given that description, of why it seems like we have a gammapocalypse going on, is because this power and authority is thusly granted merely on status through social justice and/or victim status. All one needs is the status or proper "reputation management" to get there.
This is ultimately how I came to understand those trannys who stand before us with beer belly and pattern baldness and demand "proper" pronouns at threat of law. Where applicable. There are numerous articles and we go straight to the image of the perpetrator and think "heh. He's not even trying". I thought it was delusion. But then I realized it's not. They know they are not fooling anybody, but don't want to. They want you to use "she and her" knowing full well it's against all reality, but doing so out of fear.
Understanding that level of evil is to understand why. And I can go back through a personal timeline of all kinds of f**kery and wondered why. And finally got to understand why. When it's implied that gammas should be rounded up and exterminated, it does not bother me. The trans explosion thing is right alongside the gamma explosion thing.
The question is, what the hell is causing this? Bad parenting? Plastic bottles that make the frogs gay? The schools? Media?
Or more likely a Joker-style thing where a combination of several things together achieves the goal?
Or possibly something even harder to solve, like being raised solely by women, then being educated by women, and then having to work in places run by women in organizations where women set the behavioral standards. Makes me wonder if a gamma is not some mutant but merely someone who managed to adapt to an environment that needs to be run out with whips and iron rods.

Blogger VD December 08, 2019 4:50 PM  

A gamma who at least works to get into a position of power, like being the "subject expert" if the position requires it, might at best be tempered by the experience of getting there.

No. That doesn't happen. At all.

Blogger map December 08, 2019 5:20 PM  

VD wrote:A gamma who at least works to get into a position of power, like being the "subject expert"

You know, that's actually funny. "Subject Matter Expert" is what consulting companies refer to people with highly specialized skill sets. It is actually a term-of-art.

I heard this term from observing consultants who were continually fielding the client's questions to some unknown party on the phone...until the client noticed this and decided to have the "subject matter expert" put directly on the line to deal with the problem.

What's even more interesting is that the consulting world considers the SME to be a Gamma to the consultant's Alpha. It was never considered on their part to bring the SME fully into the picture until the client demanded it.

Blogger Hammerli 280 December 08, 2019 5:22 PM  

I think a case can be made that flushing out the Gamma begins with flushing out the lies and replacing them with truth. An honest assessment of your abilities and knowledge.

People focus on lifting weights, but I think just about ANY activity with measurable results will do. Preferably those that are standardized, so you can measure your abilities against proven masters. It's one thing to go shooting at the local gravel pit and think you're a good shot because you can hit a tin can. It's quite another to compete in Free Pistol and know just how wretched a score you shot compared to an Olympic champion. But you have the satisfaction of knowing that you're swimming with the Great Big Sharks, instead of being a medium-sized frog in a very small pond.

Blogger map December 08, 2019 5:37 PM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:Or possibly something even harder to solve, like being raised solely by women, then being educated by women, and then having to work in places run by women in organizations where women set the behavioral standards.

A gamma is a severely out-grouped male. From an early age, his attempts to fit into the normal group were severely rebuffed, for whatever reason. This forces him into either isolation or into proximity with fringe or iconoclastic groups. Yes, there is an overt female influence in his life, from parents to teachers.

Blogger Haus frau December 08, 2019 6:04 PM  

@45 "He cannot stand to be anything less than the most important person in the group. He’s sort of a megalomaniac without the resources (thankfully"
Interesting. So many flavors of gamma dysfunction. My brother-in-law is more of the pathetic variety. He's not intimidating. Years of alcoholism have given him diabetic neuropathy in his feet. There's nothing intimidating about him. He would never have said any of that to my husband's face. He brought our kids into it out of spite. Can't just threaten his brother. He has to threaten to traumatize the kids too. Brother in law has made himself into a professional, always recovering charity case where everything he does that normal people do like paying bills, deserves a golf clap and a cookie.

Blogger Talios Hammerfist December 08, 2019 6:28 PM  

This was one of my favorite comments ever on the blog. Way to crush the gamma!

Blogger Meng Greenleaf December 08, 2019 6:43 PM  

I was thinking back to my childhood.

Living life on a small single-mother farm, I would have imagined more of my childhood friends would have become gammas. While I don't have data, anecdotally, I'd most didn't.

One little sociopath grew up to become a hitman in Flint. I'd be surprised if he's still alive. Another (an alpha, the girls loved him) became the lead singer of local band, unfortunately he ODed on painkillers (like many GenX). Another committed suicide (like many GenX). One still works at the same Muffler Man knockoff as he did in highschool and my close friend is the manager of produce at the local grocery store.

If gammas are unlikely to commit suicide, then I don't think any became stereotypical gammas.

If the SSH is mostly genetic, perhaps Boomer's and GenX didn't have as many gamma males around because the genome had less mutations. Whereas, Millennials and Zylon may have more gamma males due to an accumulation of mutations through dysgenesis? If this is the case, from Mouse Utopia, I would hypothesize that we next observe a signifcant increase in biological sterility and/or disinterest in procreation.

If this happens, then I can imagine a sort of zeitgeist based around an existential fear of extinction where normie society turn on gammas and feminists. Kind of like a coin flip or kill switch. Overnight, everything will change. Maybe not, but I could see it happening.

Blogger Ransom Smith December 08, 2019 7:44 PM  

One little sociopath grew up to become a hitman in Flint. I'd be surprised if he's still alive. Another (an alpha, the girls loved him) became the lead singer of local band, unfortunately he ODed on painkillers (like many GenX). Another committed suicide (like many GenX). One still works at the same Muffler Man knockoff as he did in highschool and my close friend is the manager of produce at the local grocery store.
Was your childhood as Nick Hornsby novel?

Blogger Slagenthor December 08, 2019 8:18 PM  

Avoid CrossFit then, lol. "How do you know when your friend is doing Crossfit?". "Don't worry, they'll tell you!"

Blogger James Dixon December 08, 2019 8:39 PM  

> A gamma is a severely out-grouped male. From an early age, his attempts to fit into the normal group were severely rebuffed, for whatever reason.

Perhaps necessary, but not sufficient. That applies to a lot of people who don't become gammas.

Blogger Dave December 08, 2019 9:02 PM  

It was never considered on their part to bring the SME fully into the picture until the client demanded it.

It wasn't that they didn't consider it, most of the time you purposefully avoid putting the SME one-on-one or face to face with the client. The SME typically does not have the right temperament or interpersonal skills to give you confidence they won't exacerbate a possibly stressful or confrontational situation with the client.

Sure, if it is strictly a limited technical discussion you might allow it occasionally. The last thing needed is to have to soothe the relationship with a client due to the SME telling them they don't know what they're talking about, they're doing it all wrong, and they're stupid.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf December 08, 2019 9:17 PM  

Ransom Smith wrote:Was your childhood as Nick Hornsby novel?
Is his book set in the early collapse of White midWest America circa 1970s? Us trailer park trash were something of a novel invention back then - at least in MI :) We were pioneers in a way (thanks Boomers). Interestingly, and ironically, I had it a bit better than many of my middle-class neighbors. At least I had a stay at home mom. 

My friend Tony (who ODed on pain killers) died on his couch while his wife and 3 kids were in the kitchen. He mixed some Rx he'd gotten addicted to with Nyquil. As I understand his 6 yo daughter found him 30 min after he said he was taking a short nap. Probably 20 min too late.

I learned to fight by living 5 trailers down from Billy The Sociopath. He was a literal sociopath. The kind that killed animals for fun. I invented the windmill punch where I would run headlong at him swinging my right arm in a circle repeatedly punching his face. The best a 7 yo with no clue could probably do ':) Fighting Billy was a regular occurrence. Not every day or even every week, but probably once a month. Billy smashed Max in the head with a rock so hard Max ended up with seizers for the rest of his life. Max's the guy who manages a Produce section. His anti-seizure medicine made him a bit dull. My guess is Billy is long gone, the last I saw him he asked if I needed anyone gone and when I said no told me he knew where my mother lived. Duh, she still lived in that trailer.

My childhood wasn't a picnic but I had lots of woods to walk around in, trees to climb, with my mom I'd pick wild strawberries or morels when in season, I could bike anywhere and not worry about some nutter abducting me - sort of like modern-day Japan funny enough. I spent a lot of time over to my grandparents house learning how to do stuff my father should have been teaching me. Like fixing cars.

That said, my trailer park had 30 trailers. Today's welfare ghettos they gave rise to, have hundreds and hundreds. They're horrid.

If the problems we face are strongly related to those that led to a collapse in the Mouse Utopia colonies, then we need to seriously think about what is the best way forward. I don't want to see the USA end up like every other IQ 85 3rd world mess. Gamma males may be a direct result of dysgenics but so to is sterility, autoimmune disorders, other genetic diseases (some new), even worse personality traits. There's a lot of work to be done.

Blogger SigSyndicate December 08, 2019 9:19 PM  

Dire Badger wrote:The question is, is Gamma the disease, or the symptom?

Yes.


Nature versus nurture wise, I think Gamma is not entirely or even primarily biological. Gammas who frequently get a good ass kicking often overcome their behavior, which implies that NOT getting a good ass kicking is the root of their misbehavior.


I think that's a pretty unreliable solution. Gammas who get beat up often just retract even further into their bubble, or worse, lash out indiscriminately. If you've met someone that changed their mode of behavior after an ass-kicking, they probably weren't Gamma, they were probably just low Delta or even Omega.

The delusion bubble is nigh unbreakable. You just beat them up because you're jealous, not because they deserved it.

Blogger Headmistress, zookeeper December 08, 2019 10:05 PM  

"lying less often" as opposed to 'not lying.'

Blogger map December 08, 2019 10:36 PM  

Dave wrote:It wasn't that they didn't consider it, most of the time you purposefully avoid putting the SME one-on-one or face to face with the client. The SME typically does not have the right temperament or interpersonal skills to give you confidence they won't exacerbate a possibly stressful or confrontational situation with the client.

I am not saying there are no good reasons to keep the SME out of the picture. My point is that the consultants were not hip on keeping their source out sight of the client. The client saw what they were doing and it was frustration with the consultants that led to getting the SME on line in the first place.

Blogger John Rockwell December 08, 2019 10:44 PM  

Most people aren't born leaders. Unlike those who are able to be Alphas.

Blogger SciVo December 08, 2019 10:51 PM  

can a gamma be good looking and athletic?

Yes, I am all three. Gamma is a dysfunction.

Blogger John Rockwell December 08, 2019 10:52 PM  

"Gamma cannot be an effective leader or teacher, which is why both he and others will tend to benefit from his refusal to assume positions of relative authority"

What prevents Gammas from being a competent leader?

Delusion and kicking down?

Blogger John Rockwell December 08, 2019 10:54 PM  

@DoktorJeep

The question is, what the hell is causing this? Bad parenting? Plastic bottles that make the frogs gay? The schools? Media?

44 times more genderbending estrogenic chemicals than 1st thought:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7761895/Humans-exposed-44-TIMES-BPA-thought.html

Blogger John Rockwell December 08, 2019 11:00 PM  

Kuroiki-no-Ouji wrote:Dire Badger wrote:The question is, is Gamma the disease, or the symptom?

Yes.



Nature versus nurture wise, I think Gamma is not entirely or even primarily biological. Gammas who frequently get a good ass kicking often overcome their behavior, which implies that NOT getting a good ass kicking is the root of their misbehavior.


I think that's a pretty unreliable solution. Gammas who get beat up often just retract even further into their bubble, or worse, lash out indiscriminately. If you've met someone that changed their mode of behavior after an ass-kicking, they probably weren't Gamma, they were probably just low Delta or even Omega.

The delusion bubble is nigh unbreakable. You just beat them up because you're jealous, not because they deserved it.



If the delusion bubble is unbreakable. Then the only thing left is a bullet to end them.

Blogger Katechon December 08, 2019 11:23 PM  

From an early age, his attempts to fit into the normal group were severely rebuffed, for whatever reason. This forces him into either isolation or into proximity with fringe or iconoclastic groups.
That's me. With sunny periods of exception. But a storm always arrived and there i was, out-grouped again.
I don't secretly consider myself a king tho.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 08, 2019 11:41 PM  

"Yes, there is an overt female influence in his life, from parents to teachers."
This is concering. When I went through school almost all of my teachers were women and it would be worse now. Gen Z is going to be a nightmare when they grow up.

Blogger SciVo December 09, 2019 6:47 AM  

John Rockwell wrote:What prevents Gammas from being a competent leader?

Poor judgement. Why would you follow someone whose judgement is worse than your own? I am a fine trainer in subjects where I'm a delta. But ego aside, I am not competent to actually lead.

Blogger Dire Badger December 09, 2019 11:21 AM  

Kuroiki-no-Ouji wrote:I think that's a pretty unreliable solution. Gammas who get beat up often just retract even further into their bubble, or worse, lash out indiscriminately. If you've met someone that changed their mode of behavior after an ass-kicking, they probably weren't Gamma, they were probably just low Delta or even Omega.

The delusion bubble is nigh unbreakable. You just beat them up because you're jealous, not because they deserved it.


Meh, I was sorta talking historically. Modern day 'getting beat up' doesn't often end in a bullet to the face or a sword point between your ribs.

And a sword point between the ribs is both a final solution to an insufferable smart-ass as well as a helpful lesson to other would-be smartasses. No one CARES if they consider themselves the greatest thing since beer was invented, as long as they keep their mouths shut about it. I am pretty sure there were plenty of slaves that considered themselves vastly better than their masters, but their opinion didn't really matter very much.

Blogger Phelps December 09, 2019 11:42 AM  

It was never considered on their part to bring the SME fully into the picture until the client demanded it.

They didn't consider it the same way that you don't consider open heart surgery until you know that the problem is so bad that it's worth the recovery time.

Part of the consultant's job is to keep you from having to deal with that miscreant. Their value-add is that they do the shit job of employing and herding that livestock so that clients can enjoy their brain droppings without having to smell them.

I guarantee you that there was serious, intense discussion about the ramifications before they let that creachture near the phone.

Blogger John Rockwell December 09, 2019 7:08 PM  

@SciVo

"Poor judgement. Why would you follow someone whose judgement is worse than your own? I am a fine trainer in subjects where I'm a delta. But ego aside, I am not competent to actually lead."

Lack of Wisdom? Or is it due to their delusion bubble that they cannot engage with reality even in this leadership position?

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