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Tuesday, December 31, 2019

The nature of The Storm

AC posits that the reason for the circumspection and concern about the public's response to whatever the revelations about the Deep State turn out to be is probably a lot less esoteric than the speculation concerning sex crimes, occultism, ideology, and aliens:
Q said 4-6% would be “lost forever” in post 529. I am not sure he meant they were diehard leftists. Notice 4-6% is roughly what is probably in the covert informant/intelligence network, given TIPS was set to start at 4% of the population, and it has doubtless grown since then. Those might be network members who will not want to give up the old system because they were raised in it, and like being in the preferred discount club. My guess is the revelation of what was being done to everyone will even shock the most diehard of liberals into support for Trump and Q, when they see what is in their files. This will be much more personal than you would think, with teh conspiracy giving real people who know you the ability to invade your most private sanctuaries. Even leftists will be outraged.

Notice also, Q says in post 586, “60% must remain private [at least] – for humanity.” That may mean he intends to keep 60% of what is in the files secret, because the trauma for everyone, of seeing schedules and descriptions detailing every nuance of everything from their private secrets like affairs, their bathroom activities in detail, drug problems, porn preferences, and other peccadillos, to the most intricate details of their sex lives with their spouses, including transcripts and recordings, would destroy people’s abilities to enjoy their lives, if it was made public for all to see and review.

That may also be what he meant by a full revelation would send most people to the hospital with panic attacks and leave them unable to function. Knowing how real people violated the sanctuary of your home, and could still be using technology to do it undetected, would send a lot of people over the edge, if all revealed at once. Even revealed slowly over years, it changes how you view the world, and your sanctuary, in a very profound way. Nothing feels secure.

“The choice to know will be your’s” may mean you will be able to request your own file, and see what was in it, and the details of how it was acquired, and how many people had access to it and were reviewing it for laughs.
We know that one in five citizens of East Germany were working as informants for the Stasi. We also know that the USA has been a secret surveillance state since the 1960s, and an open one since 2005 or so. I can still remember when NSA spying and surveillance software like the FBI's Carnivore aka DCS-3000 were considered conspiracy theory around the turn of the century.

But the awareness that we are being spied upon is very different than actually seeing your full collection of sex tapes, upskirts, and shower videos, just to name a few of the privacy violations that have been amassed by people employed by the federal government, some of whom were almost certainly your friends and extended family members. Just think of how many divorces would result in the first month after the releases.

It would be cruel, and would likely cause a tremendous amount of crime and civil chaos, if all that information was simply dumped upon each and every member of the American public at the same time. Hence the measured and gradual preparation of the public for them as well as the limited release. AC's theory may or may not be correct, but it does make sense and is in line with the developments we have been observing in the god-emperor's war against the Swamp.

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Blogger Gettimothy December 31, 2019 6:47 AM  

Confession is helpful here; the routine honest articulation of the very stuff AC itemizes to God transforms one's relationship to one's sins and former self.

God sees and knows it all, the key is for us to see, know, confess and repent.

Unlike satan and its servants God loves, forgives and heals. Satan's minions accuse, condemn, blackmail, threaten and use us promising protection and power and self determination.

The haughty will be increasingly ensnared, the saved liberated with all that stuff , increasingly, a diminishing view in a small rear view mirror.


I want to see my file. yes, there is much sin there. The state, the synagogue of satan, is not our God.

The reckoning is going to be epic. America, like Orban's Hungary will be overtly Christian again

Blogger Shadow Banisher December 31, 2019 7:01 AM  

The curtain about to fall is right before our noses.

Blogger John December 31, 2019 7:12 AM  

Regarding the vengeance of the Storm, people who have devoted their lives or careers to evil do not, in truth, possess any rights that Christian government officials are morally bound to respect. In that sense the Constitution is only an American courtesy. Particularly 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, and 8.

Nothing will be more infuriating than listening to the endless litany of conservative stalwarts who will claim that the means (US judicial procedure) will justify the end (the mass acquittal and liberation of evildoers).

Blogger Wario's Mart December 31, 2019 7:20 AM  

So it will include also potentially millions of non US citizens who have been resident or transient through the US as well. Possibly tens of millions since 1960. I wonder if the US has also been surveiling and subverting foreign populations en masse outside the US, or is aware of similar programs being run by the Satano pedos in the EU. Probably Google Dragon and social credit is or was being set up for the West. Just taking public what was already private

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 31, 2019 7:23 AM  

Deep State has kompromat on everyone. But it can only use that leverage in individual cases lest the sheeple wake up and revolt. Deep State has spent lots of time and money amassing a capability that gives it the illusion of control, but not the reality of it. The only question is whether Deep State views the problem in similar terms, and restrains itself, or whether Deep State is frustrated and intends a risky display of power - aka a gamble - to compel our renewed obedience.

Blogger Doug Cranmer December 31, 2019 7:27 AM  

He covers this topic again in today's lead off article. Even more information from an article he calls, "Possibly the most amazing article you will see on this site, ..."

There's a lot of could-be's out there but, shit, this does make sense.

Blogger Shimshon December 31, 2019 7:27 AM  

“At some point in the future, we’re going to look back and say how did we do it without space?”

Said by Trump, but may as well have been said by Q. That is probably coming too.

Blogger Servant December 31, 2019 7:37 AM  

Rip off the band aid. Otherwise no one learns.

We mocked, sometimes openly, my grandfather for his many beliefs. MK Ultra, agenda twenty one (wasn't named yet), fake moon landing. From what I have seen recently, Grandpa was more right than wrong, but what really gets me is the documented official release of the government about mk ultra, and my Boomer parents blase rejection of the truth.

"That was fifty years ago!"

Blogger WillBound December 31, 2019 7:40 AM  

"Therefore whatsoever ye have spoken in darkness shall be heard in the light; and that which ye have spoken in the ear in closets shall be proclaimed upon the housetops."

Literally coming true before our eyes.

Blogger Sillon December 31, 2019 7:53 AM  

It would be cruel, and would likely cause a tremendous amount of crime and civil chaos, if all that information was simply dumped upon each and every member of the American public at the same time.

I never know how to feel about "precautions" like these, sadly the normies have been conditioned for 50 years to not react or trust their own instincts.

Anything that can make them thaw those instincts by making the crime as visible as possible without permitting for media coverage would be a welcome change for once.

To me being too cautious for the public good sounds at best similar to liberal politicians telling the victims not to precipitate and make judgments right after a heinous act, and at worst like an attempt to hide information.

Blogger rumpole5 December 31, 2019 7:59 AM  

I don't doubt that such a system exists, but I am skeptical that such files would be current or accurate. It may be that when the citizens see the mistakes in their own files they will realize that the whole system is unreliable bunk, titillating maybe, but bunk. If they know so much about us why didn't they know that we were going to vote for Trump? The people running the system present as a bunch of effete, arrogant, ignorant, jerks.

Blogger Lazarus December 31, 2019 8:12 AM  

Notice also, Q says in post 586, “60% must remain private [at least] – for humanity.” That may mean he intends to keep 60% of what is in the files secret, because the trauma for everyone, of seeing schedules and descriptions detailing every nuance of everything from their private secrets like affairs, their bathroom activities in detail, drug problems, porn preferences, and other peccadillos, to the most intricate details of their sex lives with their spouses, including transcripts and recordings, would destroy people’s abilities to enjoy their lives, if it was made public for all to see and review.

I think AC is projecting here. This is the kind of information that is exchanged when females get together.

Blogger pnq87 December 31, 2019 8:23 AM  

Blacks and whites will finally find out how racist each other really are!

Blogger JE Hamilton December 31, 2019 8:24 AM  

I'm afraid that I'll only believe it when I see it.

Previous promises of shock-horror have been somewhat disappointing.

Blogger qualitycontrol December 31, 2019 8:43 AM  

Sometimes I feel jealous of someone living in a third world village. No camera or state surveillance anywhere close must feel nice.

Blogger Jamie-R December 31, 2019 9:02 AM  

The different levels of classification under the banner of national security have become no different to communists banning the internet and all forms of information that can empower its population. The amount of data the Pentagon sits on because it wants to maintain a competitive advantage defeats the purpose of having an informed Republic armed with all weapons to defeat tyranny. Classification save for the highest level is just another way to destroy trust & loyalty between a government and its people, especially as things grow from it. Not exactly what the USA was planning for when it founded itself. I think it's everything, not just mass surveillance, the esoteric stuff too. Otherwise the Chans wouldn't be so hot these days, Meet the Press made sure on the weekend that 4chan was the start of everything on Right Wing conspiracy theories. People said "oh they're leaving out 8chan intentionally" but no, there's plenty of hot info on 4chan alone, including enemies firing back. How else do I suspect that a family ski resort at Mount Hermon in the Golan Heights has nukes and ICBMs underneath it that the Iranians have on their shortlist for war.

Blogger Tomato bear December 31, 2019 9:05 AM  

Bring the light, may the holy fire cleanse us all.

Blogger Jake December 31, 2019 9:18 AM  

I was incredibly skeptical of AC when I first started reading him. He convinced me with his evidence and reason. Then a friend ran for congress, and called me one day, freaked out by a case of "managed aggression." My friend was freaked out, because some stranger walked up to him in a mall and made it clear, through clever allusions, that they knew everything about him, what he talked about on the phone, etc. It's real, my friends. Very real.

Blogger Arthur Isaac December 31, 2019 9:24 AM  

The paranoia alone would break what's left of society. If you think we're loaded with benzodiazepines now just wait until even some of the files are exposed. It may be easier informing people that little devils suited up as green men have been visiting the elites for 50 years.

Blogger Johnny December 31, 2019 9:29 AM  

It comes down to law enforcement. Do the bad guys see some jail time or don't they? Lacking that, and the disclosure will be nothing more than us getting to witness our own decline. Law enforcement would be way better than vigilantism, if it can be done.

Blogger tublecane December 31, 2019 9:32 AM  

The reason Pizzagate was squashed so quickly and (to the satisfaction of the powers that be) thoroughly, aside from the fact that the specific Comet Pizza location was so easily debunked as pedo central, is that people had a "through the looking glass" experience from reading about it. That's dangerous, as it can lead to topsy-turvy.

Chaos is opportunity, but our supposed betters are not in position to benefit from it at the moment. Not on the issue of grand dark conspiracies. They're on their back feet and could be knocked out.

But responsible counter-intelligence, if it cares about the population dangling off the topsy-turvy cliff, won't use chaos like that. They don't want people going mad.

Which isn't to say we couldn't be seeing more conventional arrests being made and conventional dirt being leaked. If General Flynn can be in prison, James "Gomer Pyle" Comey certainly can be. But what do I know.

Blogger Beau December 31, 2019 9:33 AM  

Bring the light, may the holy fire cleanse us all.

Yes.

Blogger wreckage December 31, 2019 9:40 AM  

I might be just reading my own bias in, but I think a big infodump will just be cognitive-dissonanced away. The information has to be bled out over an extended period so people can't just wish it away, they have to engage with it.

Blogger Matthew December 31, 2019 9:42 AM  

Truly a horrible situation. But the shock, bewilderment, embarrassment, helplessness, and pain that the public would feel if this is true may be a necessary evil in order for us to move on and begin to set things right as a culture and as asociety. God be with us in this and all other Storms.

Blogger tublecane December 31, 2019 9:50 AM  

@14- Somewhat, yes. But these things are a matter of perspective.

We know our government and smaller power groups within the country, are capable of all manner of evil. They have made war on their fellow Americans many times over. Aware are we also of monsters in history like serial killers allowed to continue their evil just because they were well-situated or useful.

That is put to one side as normal, even though it would be shocking if put in proper context. Or it's in reserve as a Shock Tool. For instance, a anti-traditionalist has always in his back pocket the slingshot of native genocide and pocket knife of slavery. Conventional outrages.

For instance, I remember arguing with my father about terrorism and whether or not the U.S. military targets civilians. I told him I would utter one word and he'd be convinced. To which he expressed doubt, until I said "Hiroshima." That He had to admit is what it was, but it's filed in his brain under "unterroristic terrorism" or something like that.

Now, Hiroshima is something about which we're allowed to argue. But it's generally categorized as: normal (controversial). Imagine, if you will, never having heard of it, then being informed in every gory detail. You might go a little mad.

I bring all this up to easy that there'd be chaos of but we were to be told now what we already know *if* we didn't already know it. Because it's that bad.

Not difficult to imagine there's enough bad out there we don't know about. Not space alien invasion and secret underage White Slavery sex rings, even.

Blogger Nate December 31, 2019 9:56 AM  

eh... ac is being a drama queen. americans don't care about privacy. these revelation will not shock them. america will yawn and go back to shit posting.

Blogger BillHinDaytona December 31, 2019 10:02 AM  

I've had a very low level experience of this just reviewing my own data, and things like chats. I have reviewed a few internet chats years later and I was stunned to learn how slow I am on the uptake, how much I struggled to identify the point and the OBVIOUS emotional subtext of a conversation ... I am constantly off topic and my friends and co-workers are almost endlessly patient and kind with me.

Other times, I was stunned at how much time I have wasted. In my mind, it's OK, I took a while to get going for the day. More like, No, I worked 90 minutes this day and spent the rest screwing off commenting on blogs or wasting time, going on walks.

Plus, an almost mind-boggling repetitiveness ... living the same dysfunctional day over and over again.

With video chats, I learned that I make a lot of strange faces and have an irritated expression at times that doesn't match up with my feelings of the moment. My voice also has an irritated tone, where I seem to be rushing to get off the chat and sometimes the irritation is not related to anything emotional that's happening, but I am simply being defensive because someone has asked me a direct question and I am afraid that the answer is a trap. Really weird. People are really patient with me.

And that's not even getting to stuff that's actually immoral, such as porn use, which thank God, I now am free of. (Fortunately, never did that at work ...) FAR more searches than I ever imagined. (And again the same searches over and over again.)

There's something about seeing my own file that was shocking just in terms of seeing my struggles with functioning as an adult. What the record said and what my memories said were two entirely different things. I realized that I was resentful and angry with many people simply due to my misinterpretation of events.

Perhaps other people would experience something like that.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2019 10:12 AM  

AC is continuing to write about this spying on everyone with more specifics on how it works. Read the full articles with an open mind, as it does make sense.

Blogger Scott December 31, 2019 10:15 AM  

I agree with Nate. The sheep won't revolt no matter what is revealed. Bread and circuses.

Blogger J Van Stry December 31, 2019 10:21 AM  

The only thing that will cause a change would be that very strife and criminality. If you're going to release it, you have to release it all. Once you start holding back anything, you always wind right back up where you started from.

Blogger Section 8A December 31, 2019 10:21 AM  

I hope AC is right. However, the comments about the ability of The Herd to not be shocked, go back to doritos and netflix, may be closer to the truth. "Hey, if I'm not doing anything wrong then I don't have anything to hide." 99% of boomers and most regular americans will have this attitude.

Blogger Beau December 31, 2019 10:26 AM  

The phrase comes to mind from the 12 Step community, "You're only as sick as your secrets." Many carry secrets they would never want to see revealed. The fear of exposure holds them in bondage.

Blogger Crush Limbraw December 31, 2019 10:32 AM  

From the lyrics of Amazing Grace:
"I once was lost, but now am found,
Was blind, but now I see."

I used the above lyrics on a post about the war on Christmas. The fact is that most folks - in or out of church - do NOT understand or believe it, considering themselves to be God's gift to mankind.
When the truth about ourselves comes out as we look in the spiritual mirror as God has given us eyes to see, it becomes very clear that without God's mercy and especially His Grace - we are a piece of excrement, worthy to be dumped even on the sidewalks of San Fran!
You may be spying on me, but when you LIE about it, you're working for DaFather of LIES!
Your reward waits!

Blogger Oswald December 31, 2019 10:50 AM  

I have little doubt, the government is recording our phone calls and internet searches and social media information. I have little doubt they are able to access all cameras everywhere. That would include any cameras in our homes, even ones unknown to us or that we do not give a second thought to, like the ones in our phones, computers, and TVs and other appliances. They then can retrieve this information for later use. How much later is the question? Real 1984 stuff here.

I would speculate they don't have this system everywhere in the world, though they may be closer to world wide coverage than I think. The one thing holding them back is probably to many people to control at once vs their current technology or resources. One way to solve that may be to bring everybody to the areas where they have more control. For instance, bring in all the people to the cities in America to control them in their power centers when they are ready. Drones will go along way toward allowing them to project their control over people. I often think Drones gone haywire or possessed may be the plague described in the 5th trumpet of revelation. Interesting stuff.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira December 31, 2019 11:01 AM  

That is precisely why I like to leave notes for the secret squirrels and other homo types that are reading my emails, etc. They are gay losers, if they are spying on people like that.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton December 31, 2019 11:13 AM  

Perpendicular to topic: The Turkish term for "Deep State" is derin devlet. Why not call Deep State apparatchiks "Devlet"? This suggests apprentice or child devils, Mrs. Scratch's new bundle of joy, or wannabe devils not fully schooled in devilry.

Blogger Rowan December 31, 2019 11:20 AM  

Several years ago, some gay guy committed suicide after his roommate leaked video of him hooking up with another guy. This was in a college dorm. The gay guy had other mental health issues but supposedly this video of his activity drove him over the edge.

The guy who filmed it was found guilty, expelled, and sent home to India.

How much more injurious could the PTSD be for over a hundred million people? Will the perps be expelled and sent home? We can only hope.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl December 31, 2019 11:28 AM  

One thing to think about regarding how far we've gone down this route, is the fact that the majority of Americans were highly against Social Security numbers/cards as they did not want the government knowing that much about them.
Same with birth certificates.
That sounds crazy to us today but was the reality back then, not even a hundred years ago.

Blogger Beau December 31, 2019 11:34 AM  

OT

Two years ago many of us started a daily read thru the bible in a year group. At the time it was very difficult to coordinate and just ended up being on the honor system. Some of us finished. What did work was the commitment to pray for everyone in the group regularly.

Would anyone like to participate in this year’s read thru the bible group? Read your own version. Last time I did ESV readings Mon-Fri, taking the weekend off (and to catch up if behind). That worked great for me. If so, just respond [on Social Galactic preferably] saying, “I want to read the Bible this year.” I’ll include you in the group and lift you up in prayer.

Blogger Krymneth December 31, 2019 11:40 AM  

Alternate hypothesis about "the masses" for your consideration: We are not all sheep because of apathy, but because we've been trained that nothing good will come of fighting back. This is arguably also entirely rational and true at the moment.

Suppose that changes. Might that "apathy" disappear? Especially if people are given fresh and copious reasons to care?

Blogger Noah B. December 31, 2019 11:41 AM  

Tinder and Grindr histories have to be some of the most sensitive data out there. Collecting that data would be a top priority for intelligence agencies digging for kompromat and mass revelations of users' activity would shatter many lives. Homosexuals being uncloseted, long lists of sexual partners revealed, intimate messages released - definitely cataclysmic for a lot of people, maybe as many as that 4-6% Q is talking about.

This has a distinctly American flavor to it. Unlike the East Germans, most individuals here who have been spied on have been complicit to some degree. We fund these surveillance networks every time we rush out to buy the latest phone, pay for a new app, or upgrade our internet service.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2019 11:46 AM  

We're close to a Tattle-Tale society. Forget the drama, as the point is everyone hates tattle-tales.

What you guys that say this won't make any difference don't get is:

1) It's already waking people up, but that awaking is being covered up by Main Stream outlets, and it's not just normies waking up, it's leftists, as in last nights Darkstream.

2) What shall be revealed in the spying is that leftists are the most spied on people, as they have the most to hide. When they actually see that, what then? They believe the spying is on others, and not them.

Blogger urthshu December 31, 2019 11:47 AM  

"some of whom were almost certainly your friends and extended family members"

Q keeps saying "the ones you('ve been taught to) trust the most." Who do you trust? Why?

Blogger Balam December 31, 2019 11:47 AM  

@Nate
"eh... ac is being a drama queen. americans don't care about privacy. these revelation will not shock them. america will yawn and go back to shit posting."
If TGE gets a hold of the media organs he could simply tell people to be outraged through them. He certainly has been practicing the cinematic approach with that movie trailer like ad he released on Twitter, and Q has repeatedly mentioned the need to destroy the establishment media.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 31, 2019 11:55 AM  

So they know about my underground Sten gun factory staffed by Asian love slaves. Great.

Blogger Gulo Gulo December 31, 2019 12:12 PM  

Beau
Please count me in.
Its timely as I was just convicted last night that I need to read the Bible more regularly.
God Bless!

Blogger Scott December 31, 2019 12:15 PM  

No. It really is bread and circuses.

Revolutions are only two groups of elites fighting for control. The masses have never revolted for any reason other than their empty stomaches.

Blogger Dyspeptic December 31, 2019 12:15 PM  

"but it does make sense and is in line with the developments we have been observing in the god-emperor's war against the Swamp."

Sorry but I see no evidence of this war. If Trump were actually fighting a war against these traitorous monsters there would at least be indictments by now. They have Fibbie lawyer Clinesmith with his rhetorical pants down around his ankles committing a blatant felony and still no indictments. And it's not like any of the perps are cooperating cuz if they were the Epstein/Rich Solution would be more prevalent.

Blogger JovianStorm December 31, 2019 12:17 PM  

The concept of Jubilee applies to social sins as well as financial ones.

Once exposed and repented of, we are free from these debts. Let the files be released

Blogger Scott December 31, 2019 12:19 PM  

Both points are irrelevant.

The sheep will always be sheep. Our Lord said as much. Better a sheep that's content as a sheep than a child of the lie.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 31, 2019 12:20 PM  

"Hey, if I'm not doing anything wrong then I don't have anything to hide." 99% of boomers and most regular americans will have this attitude.

That's the attitude people have *now*, because without proof of how extensive it is, it's an abstract thing that you can assume doesn't affect you because you're nobody. That's the whole point of the article: what if it wasn't abstract anymore, and they've been collecting extensive data on everyone, and everyone's dossier was dumped out in the open?

Where I live, there's too much open space for old-style peeking-in-window spying to be possible, and my circle of friends is too small to think that 1 in 5 of them could be an informant. But I'm abnormal in those ways. And even aside from those methods, if they collected school records, medical records, phone conversations, emails, web traffic, online pseudonyms (easily tracked if they have the help of Google and others), court documents, and confidential notes from any pastors or other advisors over the years, that would be a pile of stuff. You don't have to be a bad person for that to be a package you wouldn't want anyone else seeing.

I think we all know they *can* amass that kind of info on a target if they make a point of it. We just haven't known (or had the proof) that they were going that deep on everyone.

Blogger urthshu December 31, 2019 12:39 PM  

"The people running the system present as a bunch of effete, arrogant, ignorant, jerks."

Kek. It's an echo chamber. Like this: Hillary's server, and the DNCs, are typical, not extraordinary in the least. They all have them and all conduct the real business of State that way. What appears to be a Senator speech is actually a walking talking shitpost.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 31, 2019 12:42 PM  

23. Nate December 31, 2019 9:56 AM
eh... ac is being a drama queen. americans don't care about privacy.



worse, it's just a different side of the "national security" excuse to not tell the American public what they've been up too.

withholding the already stolen / surveilled data because muh emotional trauma only works if you can trust the people making these judgments. and if you can trust the IN PERPETUITY going forward.

yeah, no.

until Hillary and the Bidens ( for a bare minimum ) are in jail? i'm not trusting any of these fuckers.


37. Rowan December 31, 2019 11:20 AM
How much more injurious could the PTSD be for over a hundred million people?


jeezus. the people who built America had to deal with Indians murdering and raping their families. regularly.

Blogger Akuma December 31, 2019 12:43 PM  

"We're close to a Tattle-Tale society. Forget the drama, as the point is everyone hates tattle-tales."

The only people who hate tattle tales/rats/snitches are criminal degenerate immature losers who have something to lose by being tattled on.

Blogger tuberman December 31, 2019 12:53 PM  

Scott wrote:No. It really is bread and circuses.

Revolutions are only two groups of elites fighting for control. The masses have never revolted for any reason other than their empty stomaches.


Rod Dreher is that you?

Blogger MATT December 31, 2019 12:56 PM  

*Stallman 2020*

Blogger urthshu December 31, 2019 1:01 PM  

"eh... ac is being a drama queen. americans don't care about privacy. these revelation will not shock them. america will yawn and go back to shit posting."

This is correct. But it's not about privacy. It's about animal husbandry. The breeding, control, and culling of herds.

Blogger Emmanuel December 31, 2019 1:27 PM  

"It would be cruel, and would likely cause a tremendous amount of crime and civil chaos, if all that information was simply dumped upon each and every member of the American public at the same time."

I don't care whether it's 'cruel' or not. It's the truth. I'd rather everyone know everything than live in a comforting, bubble of a lie and pretend everything is roses, pretend that people around them wouldn't eat them if given the right motive, circumstances, and ability to do so. I'd rather everyone know everything to the point of the annihilation of the country and even all the countries of the world.

Blogger Tallen December 31, 2019 1:49 PM  

I believe .gov has the capability to do the most intrusive surveillance on anyone with networked and unnetworked collection devices. I don't believe .gov has the data storage resources to collect everything at all times or even more than targeted collection on a small subset of Americans. Resources to review or analyze much of that data are even more scarce.

Blogger Scott December 31, 2019 1:56 PM  

Things are better with Trump than they would have been under Clinton.

Reality will never compare favorably to your justice porn fantasy.

Blogger Noah B. December 31, 2019 2:46 PM  

"Reality will never compare favorably to your justice porn fantasy."

Huge amounts of stupidity, myopia, and defeatism packed into one brief statement.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 31, 2019 2:51 PM  

The use of information to control politicians and others is a two part system.
I witnessed firsthand how the state level GOP will only even give the time of day to sleezy suits from some law firm somewhere and ignore real leaders that emerged over time.
The idea is to ensure they have the kind of people who will have things that can be held over them. It is possible for someone to live squeaky clean enough and any "sin" you find over them would be no different than anything other normal people have. Look at how they tried to use locker room talk on Trump and failed.
Their favorite, on the GOP side for low level reps, is to get the "secret gay life" type. Not just some gay, but the kind that likes taking a podium and blathering about family values or something that the boomercons lap up brainlessly. if they can't get that, they'll go for gamblers, drug heads, carousers, drinkers, etc.
The entire Epstein thing was a vanguard for a future where people stopped caring about vices and gayness. Buggering kids... still taboo so far. Next it will be getting higher-ups caught with underrage traps or twinks.
After that it will catching them sacrificing kids to Moloch. And maybe after that if we haven't burnt it all down in rage it'll be FAILING to sacrifice the kid and denying their god.

Blogger Scott December 31, 2019 2:53 PM  

You're looking into a mirror, Noah.

My hope is in the Lord, and my side has already won.

Blogger sammibandit December 31, 2019 2:54 PM  

Years ago we used to unplug the rotary phone and put coats on it during parties. We had to unplug the phone because we didn't want any calls and we had to find a place for big, wool pea coats to rest. They were too big for the wardrobe.

Blogger Noah B. December 31, 2019 3:07 PM  

"My hope is in the Lord, and my side has already won."

If that's the case, then the idea of justice being properly served should not be unthinkable to you.

Blogger Oswald December 31, 2019 3:10 PM  

58 Remember you cannot unring the bell or put the genie back in the bottle.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid December 31, 2019 3:51 PM  

The shocker for people would be finding out the world, America included, has been under "communist" rule as long as nearly anyone has been alive. You don't have to legally codify an agenda such as the abolition of private property to bring it about . . . how have land/home ownership rates been trending? The Intel agencies have been the primary weapon in destroying America. It is important to keep in mind that the very foundation of being an Intel agency is the privilege of circumventing law. It's agenda will inevitably be transgressive against the nation it serves, by it's very nature.

Americans being under full-blown communist style surveillance is nothing new, the only change since the 50s/60s is the application of software to sift through and manage what used to take building after building packed with fallible and lazy bureaucrats. Nothing lasts forever however. A war within the Intel agencies was painfully obvious with the election of Trump, though there had been quiet foreshadowing in the years leading up. Sugar Grove transitioning from being ostensibly manned by Navy in cooperation with NSA, to openly an NSA site with Navy personnel still stationed there was a clear sign of internal turbulence.

Jake wrote:It's real, my friends. Very real.

Indeed is, I've had experiences like your friends. Don't bend to the intimidation. Having someone's information is one thing, having the free manpower and time to do something with it is entirely another. Most checks of this nature that are written would never be cashed. Have faith and stay the course.

rumpole5 wrote:I don't doubt that such a system exists, but I am skeptical that such files would be current or accurate.

The accuracy of surveilled information within the country is only an issue with HUMINT, which accounts for a tiny fraction of 1% of the collected information. The rest is as accurate as it could possibly be, to the extent that the information stored on you is easily more accurate than your knowledge of your own information. That doesn't necessarily mean that anyone knows any of it, and the same can be said for most, but the chilling effect alone is powerful.

Blogger Kiwi December 31, 2019 4:36 PM  

Most people won't be too concerned with their own lives exposed. As an example, here in NZ there is a FB group which has the sole purpose of livestreaming your social degeneracy. Videos all show either drunkard and/or illegal, and certainly more than questionable behaviours, met with cheers from the online crowd. Dancing and singing seems mandatory. A typical stream might be someone getting high at their "workplace" while dancing and singing (no wonder productivity is so low), and clothes are not compulsory, regardless of bodyshape. Selling booze for cash at twice the normal price featured on Xmas day. There is no way the law here could logistically police the majority nor provide much we don't know, it's not like they haven't already invited us into their bathrooms.

What would scare people though is the exposure of corruption and weirdity at higher levels of society, where control lies, the minorities, the not normals. The only reason to purposefully release that stuff, in more than a trickle, would be to send the majority of the population into mental collapse.

Sometimes I try to imagine how I would feel if I was exposed to some of the things that currently float in conspiracy, a stress test if you will. Most I could mentally tolerate, but some would collapse my mind.

Unlike the bad guy in Dirty Harry, I don't got to know.

Blogger Angantyr December 31, 2019 6:05 PM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:So they know about my underground Sten gun factory staffed by Asian love slaves. Great.

Where can I get one????

Blogger xevious2030 December 31, 2019 9:52 PM  

“americans don't care about privacy. these revelation will not shock them. america will yawn and go back to shit posting.”

That would be a given. Which leaves the 60% not to be publicly known, for the sake of humanity.

Blogger tublecane December 31, 2019 10:04 PM  

About sheep and breads and circuses and such, people forget how very little is required to throw civilization out of sorts. How much money was lost because a couple planes flew into two buildings?Or, much more ridiculously, a couple dindus were shot by a community watchman and Ferguson's own Don Knotts?

You can bring cities to heel with suspicious packages and a couple snipers. Elites don't want any of that, unless it's to leverage something. And not even then, really.

Blogger map December 31, 2019 10:48 PM  

Well, since we are on AC, here is a research study on brain structure. Basically, liberals have smaller right amygdala.

https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2

Substantial differences exist in the cognitive styles of liberals and conservatives on psychological measures [1]. Variability in political attitudes reflects genetic influences and their interaction with environmental factors [2, 3]. Recent work has shown a correlation between liberalism and conflict-related activity measured by event-related potentials originating in the anterior cingulate cortex [4]. Here we show that this functional correlate of political attitudes has a counterpart in brain structure. In a large sample of young adults, we related self-reported political attitudes to gray matter volume using structural MRI. We found that greater liberalism was associated with increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex, whereas greater conservatism was associated with increased volume of the right amygdala. These results were replicated in an independent sample of additional participants. Our findings extend previous observations that political attitudes reflect differences in self-regulatory conflict monitoring [4] and recognition of emotional faces [5] by showing that such attitudes are reflected in human brain structure. Although our data do not determine whether these regions play a causal role in the formation of political attitudes, they converge with previous work [4, 6] to suggest a possible link between brain structure and psychological mechanisms that mediate political attitudes.

Blogger Hammerli 280 December 31, 2019 11:14 PM  

I don't think people will be TOO surprised at the amount of data-mining that can be done from open sources. What's got me worried is that almost every computer and cell phone made in the last decade has a camera and microphone built in.

Do you really trust the Silicon Valley Bullies NOT to try to use those? I sure as Hell don't.

Blogger Akulkis December 31, 2019 11:44 PM  

" Law enforcement would be way better than vigilantism, if it can be done."

So-called law-enforcement is at the very center of the problem. The cops HAVE to know that they are disproportionately screwing people who are harmless, while totally ignoring people who harm and even destroy the lives of millions.

Where cops are concerned, it's the 99% who are bad apples who give the other 1% a bad name.

Blogger James January 01, 2020 12:10 AM  

Im with the crowd of " release it all, let the chips fall where they may". Id probaly be embarrased with a good 10% of my own personal data being exposed but a few apologies and the remorse I already feel about mistakes I have made throughout my life would suffice to set my mind at ease. I am sure the majority of people lead lives of modest morality and really havent much to hide. I recently saw a video of 5 men linking arms to save a dog from a flooding culvert. Some Eastern European country. Five complete strangers who happened to see a dog on the verge of catastrophe and risked their own safety to save the dog. No one compelled them to do it, they simply reacted with compassion. I believe, or would like to believe, a majority of people are just like those men. Happy New Year folks, Slainte.

Blogger Akulkis January 01, 2020 12:36 AM  

"What shall be revealed in the spying is that leftists are the most spied on people, as they have the most to hide."

The left is inherently subversive.
Subversive people don't trust others, mostly because they project their own untrustworthiness onto others. Hence they spy on each other -- if merely to keep everybody in line. Someone from the leadership of lefty-org approaches lefty activist/true-believer/dupe and tells him/her that his (thought-)crimes have been discovered, but he/she won't be reported to internal security IF they improve their behavior/level-of-commitment or participate in some ridiculous thing (like, say, living on a platform on a tree, 150' above the ground, with no ladder, and then being the subject of world-wide press releases, and... publicly recognized as an abject kook by everyone outside of the organization.

It wouldn't surprise me if this is how Greta Thunberg got started in her role as a wind-up toy.

Blogger Jack Amok January 01, 2020 3:27 AM  

The accuracy of surveilled information within the country is only an issue with HUMINT, which accounts for a tiny fraction of 1% of the collected information. The rest is as accurate as it could possibly be, to the extent that the information stored on you is easily more accurate than your knowledge of your own information.

Bull. Shit.

Non-curated digital data is almost worthless. Until it has been vetted, correlated and corrected by humans, it is little more than random noise. For selected high profile targets that are worth spending the resources on to clean up the potential hits found by the botted ETLs, it might be valid, but for the average Jane and Joe, it's sheer comedy.

It's - as has always been the case - far easier to collect data than to collate and contextualize it. If the auto-filters are set too tight, almost nothing is ever connected. If they're set too loose, random crap is merged together making the dossier useless.

And if it's just right? That means HUMINT spent time vetting it, with all the errors associated with it.

If you think digital trails are more accurate than HUMINT trails, you don't know shit about the subject.

Blogger Akulkis January 01, 2020 5:36 AM  

Higher precision, less accuracy.

Essentially, the equivalent of an electronic scale that has 7 digit readout, but mechanism is corroded AND there's a couple of mice inside, burrowing next to the mechanism.

Just because the readout implies you're weights are accurate to the 10's of micrograms doesn't mean that your grams and 10's of grams digits are actually accurate until you've tested the scale with known weights.

This is why physics tends to give accurate results while psychology, sociology, and economics tend not to.

In physics, every experiment is first preceded by a number of other experiments in which the outcome is known IF the various sensors and other apparati are properly calibrated.

I've yet to EVER read an experiment in which the outcome is compared to some other experiment, in which the psychologists first performed that same other experiment protocol on their test group, to see if they get the same results as the other published figures, before or even after running their own test protocol.

Blogger Vaughan Williams January 01, 2020 5:43 AM  

Yeah, Jack is right. Often the lies and errors are baked into the intel from day one. And with passage of time there is no way to correct it. Half of the fright of the release is not just how much they know; it is how much they know is either malicious lies, or just sloppy mistakes full of bias. And gov't being gov't, they trust each other more than the guy whose info is being recorded.

Blogger artensoll January 01, 2020 7:48 AM  

@39

Mister Beau

I want to read the Bible this year.

Am not yet on Social Galactic but will come find you when I receive my invite.

I promise to keep my mouth shut and cover my hair :)

Blogger Akulkis January 01, 2020 8:37 AM  

And of course, how much of the sig-int data will be flat-out edited to show "incriminating evidence" to convince a jury that you were somewhere, like inside a bank after hours the night a robbery took place, when in fact, you were home, with your family, asleep in bed.

Digital records are not nearly as reliable as paper records. Sure, they can be falsified and counterfeited, but it's a hell of a lot more difficult. Especially when the documents are serial-numbered and require signatures.

Blogger MNW January 01, 2020 10:14 AM  

I agree that like a bandaid might best. If this has too much if a slow burn it will not have the shock value, the press will be able to obfuscate it to romany normies, or people will simply become numb and cynical to it.

It might be unpleasant, but the unpleasantness should be relatively short.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid January 01, 2020 3:55 PM  

Jack, I did not mean to say that collected data is superior to HUMINT. The vast majority of collected data is useless, as you said, and sifting useful data is not a simple task. Only meant that the amount of accurate information technically available absolutely eclipses other means, and the technical capacity to make use of the sea of data will increasingly become less of an issue. Which is only making HUMINT more valuable compared to data collection as extensive fraudulent digital histories are almost certainly the global standard now for anyone of value. The average Joe, however, will be easy pickings for sufficiently sophisticated software.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel January 01, 2020 4:23 PM  

Every day I feel more and more like "They Live" was a documentary.

Blogger Akulkis January 02, 2020 2:20 AM  

@The Pitchfork Rebel

Why do you think that John Carpenter, the writer and director of "They Live," was never put on a project with a good script ever again after that movie?

Carpenter committed the unpardonable sin: telling the truth about the advertising and broadcast/print media ... that they're all run by the same group, who in turn are all in the business of deception, buying off politicians, and conditioning the public to act against both their personal and society's best interest.

For whatever reason, they didn't murder him, but instead, humiliated him by blacklisting him from projects worthy of his talent, putting him on one loser concept after another until he quit.

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