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Friday, December 13, 2019

The ride never ends

Owen Benjamin was deplatformed by Instagram today. Discuss amongst yourselves.

UPDATE: Mmmmm. What's that? Smells like tortious interference....
Owen Benjamin, a right-wing comedian who regularly shares and creates hateful and anti-Semitic content online, was suspended from Instagram and Facebook Friday “following multiple violations of our policies,” a Facebook spokesperson told Right Wing Watch. Benjamin’s ban from Instagram and Facebook follows his permanent suspension from YouTube, reported earlier this month.

The suspension came after Right Wing Watch shared a collection of more than 170 racist and anti-Semitic posts Benjamin had shared on his Instagram page with Instagram and requested comment from the company. In the posts, which were assembled by a source and provided to Right Wing Watch, Benjamin spread hate against Jewish people and other minorities and perpetuated asinine conspiracy theories including claims that dinosaurs never existed and that the world is flat.
Awfully nice of them to openly confess to the crime like that.

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96 Comments:

Blogger MagisterLudi December 13, 2019 2:45 PM  

Let there be SocialGalactic 2.0!

Blogger Thomas W. December 13, 2019 2:47 PM  

Do you think Youtube and Instagram coordinated their hits in unision?

Blogger Justin Bailey December 13, 2019 2:47 PM  

Racist pictures of his lunch, I assume.

Blogger CCP December 13, 2019 2:51 PM  

When does InstaGalactic launch?

Blogger Doctor Mayhem December 13, 2019 2:55 PM  

One day, the shoe will be,on the other foot and we'll be using these very same precedents on them.

"What about Free Speech? Do you not respect Free Speech?" They'll ask.

"Just as much as you did when you were in power." Will be the reply.

Blogger Unseen11 December 13, 2019 2:56 PM  

He's quickly becoming the man to be deplatformed from the most amount of social media sites out there

Blogger Kordl December 13, 2019 2:57 PM  

More reasons to be excited for social galactic

Blogger JG December 13, 2019 2:58 PM  

Instagram? Oh, yeah, Narcistagram, where women that ought to be having babies show off their bods in lingerie and bikinis and virtue signal about TEPID.

Blogger Jake December 13, 2019 2:59 PM  

Damn. I really really enjoyed Owen's Instagram posts. Instagram is actually a fun platform, because it just gives you nice, fast images and memes to enjoy. Oh well.
It was inevitable.
We must support Vox and Owen's alt-tech, especially unauthorized.

Blogger Ska_Boss December 13, 2019 3:05 PM  

*honking intensifies*

Blogger VD December 13, 2019 3:08 PM  

Do you think Youtube and Instagram coordinated their hits in unision?

It seems likely. I certainly hope so....

Blogger MNW December 13, 2019 3:09 PM  

What happened to Infoears was definitely coordinated. That being said, I don't think that us the case here. They think and act in lockstep. When in acts to deplatform. The others take note and more actively look for an excuse to do the same.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov December 13, 2019 3:10 PM  

Hmmmm... So?
How did deplatforming, harassing, even jailing the nationalists and conservatives work out in the UK? Counterproductive? Is Streisand Effect a thing?

Blogger Richard Holmes December 13, 2019 3:13 PM  

hope so?

Blogger VD December 13, 2019 3:18 PM  

Let there be SocialGalactic 2.0!

It's coming. And sooner than you probably think.

Blogger sammibandit December 13, 2019 3:18 PM  

Owen's off and thief-idiot Olivia Jade is back on.

Blogger LR27 December 13, 2019 3:24 PM  

They must really want sociogalactic to take off.

Blogger American Nationalist December 13, 2019 3:26 PM  

Owen Benjamin was a normie?!?

Blogger DJ | AMDG December 13, 2019 3:28 PM  

How does the US Fed Court spell ‘collusion?’

Blogger New Creation December 13, 2019 3:31 PM  

Disappointing because his feed was so good. It was the only reason I had an account.

Blogger Silent Draco December 13, 2019 3:32 PM  

Gander Sauce, in the gallon jug. Not just for dinner any more. Sprinkle with extra REEEEs for that spicy flavor.

Blogger Br1cht December 13, 2019 3:33 PM  

In the movie Starship Troopers Carl, the telepathic officer reads the alien Overmind and after a second he bursts out "It´s Afraid!"

This news made that image come to mind. They fear SDL´s mind but Owens reach terrifies them.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 December 13, 2019 3:34 PM  

VD wrote:Do you think Youtube and Instagram coordinated their hits in unision?

It seems likely. I certainly hope so....


This is pretty much an open secret. There's an Internet Cartel right now in the Western World.

Blogger Oswald December 13, 2019 3:36 PM  

It is a war. The enemy is going to attack. Any speech that questions their agenda will result in the person speaking being attacked by whatever means is available. Once alternative avenues are created the real question becomes: Do we deplatform them like they deplatform us? Since they will have facebook, twitter and instagram to use if they are deplatformed it is not like they will be silenced.

Blogger Karen took the Kids December 13, 2019 3:46 PM  

Mistakes were made.

Blogger Goodnight December 13, 2019 3:50 PM  

It's coming. And sooner than you probably think.

That's the best thing I've heard this week, and there's been a lot of good news this week.

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz December 13, 2019 3:53 PM  

I have no time for Twater or Insta. See no problem, let them rot.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 13, 2019 3:54 PM  

I think the wholesome pics and videos of him and his family happy and prosperous was the final straw. It’s hard to lie about a man who can easily demonstrate the truth. #MakeZuckerbergBrokeAgain

Blogger AndyT December 13, 2019 3:54 PM  

Did they even give a fake reason?

Blogger D Zniger December 13, 2019 3:54 PM  

In Germany everybody censored or in danger of being censored has moved to https://telegram.org

Blogger SigSyndicate December 13, 2019 3:55 PM  

I'm surprised it took this long. It's not like there's any recourse for the afflicted to being banned. No one, not even those on the Left, even pretends like social media is anything less than 1984's Ministry of Truth.

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 13, 2019 3:59 PM  

The rich and powerful believe they are better than us and know better what is good for us. Today the focus is on controlling the message and controlling guns. They are also trying to control our use of electricity and moving toward controlling what we eat. They want us to eat bugs! Degrading our lives makes their own success seem bigger to them.

So use up their free resources but don't succumb to their temptations that trap you there. And fight for and patronize those alternatives that keep you free. In the short run it may cost a little more. But just like with not cheating, you'll sleep better and you'll have more liberty to pursue virtue for yourself and your family.

Blogger VFM Bear December 13, 2019 4:11 PM  

"It seems likely. I certainly hope so...."

On tonight's episode of Discovery, we will witness the ELLoE investigate what lead to the banning of ...Oh my God! The humanity! Are those entrails on the microphone?

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 13, 2019 4:17 PM  

It's either collusion or, like a flesh eating zombie, natural wiring of the degenerate SJW brain virus to deplatform people like Owen.
Or it's a few people directing the rage mob to target like one of those laser target devices the military uses.
Either way, I hope to see a day when the actual button pressers are found out and charged for their crimes.
Oh and it will be a crime.

Social Galactic and Meme Wars please.

Blogger Balam December 13, 2019 4:23 PM  

Instagram won't ban porn but Owen's considered dangerous?

Blogger anorganicbear December 13, 2019 4:26 PM  

Where is his backup? He has a gab, but it looks mostly unused, and his minds is abandoned for months it seems? Is there a telegram or something?

Blogger Stilicho December 13, 2019 4:38 PM  

Instagram prefers porn

Blogger Al K. Annossow December 13, 2019 4:47 PM  

People like Owen and Vox are resilient and wisely have alternatives. But the biggest loss is that the casual user who is still redeemable is less likely to come across the alternative platform to see the alternative lifestyle and message that they can live. This is still an important loss because it does matter that we spread the truth rather than just preach to the choir. Owen is a powerful communicator.

Blogger Kraemer December 13, 2019 4:48 PM  

DLive.tv and unauthorized.tv . If he wants us to know where to find him he will.

Blogger Robert Browning December 13, 2019 4:50 PM  

Take heart, all the censoring and deplatforming is to deny Christ the ability to speak in his second coming.

Blogger Manuel December 13, 2019 4:52 PM  

What's that I hear? Could it be the roar of 7000 bears?

Blogger thalios December 13, 2019 4:54 PM  

It seems likely. I certainly hope so....

When I read this, I swear I heard cackling evil laughter and the roar of a very large bear.

Blogger fredulent December 13, 2019 4:55 PM  

The instagram app on Android only recently has added to the splash screen, 'from Facebook'.

Blogger PJJP December 13, 2019 4:59 PM  

Vincent James who runs the Red Elephants is Reporting:
"Jared Holt reportedly got Owen Benjamin Banned from Instagram and Facebook today according to sources. Based on what I’ve heard, he may have been the one to reach out to YouTube as well to lobby them to ban him."

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 13, 2019 5:02 PM  

TPTB banned Owen because they could.

TPTB also banned Owen because they enjoy demonstrating their power over us.

And TPTB will continue the cheap-shit harassment until the price of doing so becomes prohibitive.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 13, 2019 5:06 PM  

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Blogger anorganicbear December 13, 2019 5:09 PM  

@39: "DLive.tv and unauthorized.tv . If he wants us to know where to find him he will."

I love Owen, but don't really have the capability to sit and listen/watch for 3 hours hoping he'll drop a link. That's why his instagram was perfect. I didn't even need an account, I could just log in and check out what he was up to that day and more or less keep up with everything.

Blogger Lazarus December 13, 2019 5:12 PM  

How dare they!

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 13, 2019 5:16 PM  

@44: Jared Holt? Wasn't he separated from Nick Fuentes at birth?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 13, 2019 5:41 PM  

"Instagram prefers porn"

Silly rabbit. The Instagram is for porn.

Blogger cecilhenry December 13, 2019 5:48 PM  

Searching 'tortious interference' on DuckDuckGo ....


... very interesting.


This is like the basic modus operandi of SJW organizations over the past 10 years. Its all they ever do.


I hope he takes it to them.

Blogger maniacprovost December 13, 2019 5:48 PM  

I didn't even need an account, I could just log in

Wut

On a completely unrelated note, it's great that the Fediverse provides a functional starting point for the social media of the future.

Blogger TruthSeekerBear December 13, 2019 6:12 PM  

That trash piece from Right Wing Watch was infuriating to read. But, as Vox so cleverly informed us, SJWs always lie!!!

“Benjamin has denied the Holocaust and spoken favorably about Hitler, claimed that Jews and gays destroy civilizations, and promised that one day he would call for violence.”

Bullshit! Big Bear always says never hurt the Jew! Vengeance is the Lord’s. He knows that hurting them will only perpetuate their victim narrative. Anyone calling for violence on the streams quickly gets banned for life. He’s friend to the Jew, not the Babylonian Grabblers!

Blogger TruthSeekerBear December 13, 2019 6:16 PM  

Me too! I got rid of all my social media awhile ago and only recently got back on Instagram just to follow the Big Bear and other bears.

Blogger Gregory the Tall December 13, 2019 6:50 PM  

So what exactly is the contract that was interfered with in this case?

Blogger Manuel December 13, 2019 7:00 PM  

re Right Wing Watch: Go read how afraid they are of mentioning UATV.
Owen "Red Pill Overdose Victim" Benjamin. haha, we're crushing guys.

Blogger [Redacted] December 13, 2019 7:47 PM  

Big Bear is a Dinocaust Denier! He denies that oil is a fossil fuel, and that dinosaurs are not the ancestoral inhabitants of the Dakota badlands. Never forget the 66 million!

Blogger Shane Bradman December 13, 2019 8:21 PM  

Instagram allows half naked photos of underage girls, but a farmer who makes fun of jews is just too much. Its time to stop. Photos of half naked girls is part of Jewish culture and it's anti-Semitic to criticise that for being illegal and disgusting.

Blogger Upstate Settler December 13, 2019 9:00 PM  

They keep banning The Big Bear and again and again he keeps popping back up. No whining, no victimhood, just crushing where ever he is. They've got to be worried

Blogger Noah B. December 13, 2019 9:01 PM  

"So what exactly is the contract that was interfered with in this case?"

An existing contract isn't required. There's also tortious interference with prospective business relations.

Blogger Harsh December 13, 2019 9:07 PM  

Or "Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you"

Blogger Stilicho December 13, 2019 9:13 PM  

One simply cannot go around saying the "H" word and not expect repercussions.

Blogger Lazarus December 13, 2019 9:14 PM  

Gregory the Great wrote:So what exactly is the contract that was interfered with in this case?

It maybe does not apply in this particular case but may be germane to other cases in a legal sense.

Blogger Monotonous Languor December 13, 2019 9:15 PM  

I wish Owen the best. Once he gets on a roll, he has a unique talent for presenting objectively moral goals and lifestyles in an entertaining way.

To be brought down by something that calls itself Right Wing Watch (“a project for People For the American Way”) is an abomination. Sanctimony drips off of every sentence in that Right Wing Watch hit piece. Even their name is monumentally irritating; it has the unmitigated gall to make arrogant presumptions about how to define the right wing and why it should be watched in the first place.

Of course, this is the epitome of leftism, and what a perfect religion it is. It refuses to believe in a Creator God, thereby allowing its adherents to make gods of themselves, including full-blown narcissism for those who would otherwise be society's losers. It constantly feeds a feeling of moral superiority, that can be expressed in cathartic bursts of outrage against its designated enemies, along with intense feelings of satisfaction whenever one of those enemies is vanquished. Simultaneously it allows its followers to seek blissfully mindless refuge in bland NPC cult conformity. It presents a goal of achievable earthly nirvana, the dreamlike fantasy of perfect equality. Feelings feelings feelings, Gee, what's not to like?

I wonder if Christianity has forsaken its own goals, or if those goals have simply drifted away over the centuries into some pedestrian saccharine banality such as love being the answer to everything. Unfortunately, none of that sounds very exciting.

Blogger AndyT December 13, 2019 9:20 PM  

To my knowledge, which is significant, no one has ever collected damages in the US for a similar claim. In most US states, including the ones I practice, you must prove that the defendant (the interlocutor) was 'negligent'.

Hoping there's no some new case law to be made. But it seems unlikely.

Blogger VD December 13, 2019 9:35 PM  

Hoping there's no some new case law to be made. But it seems unlikely.

Lawyers.... I swear, you guys never know how to think outside your precedents. Of course there can be no claim for damages relating to Instagram, because Instagram provides no value. That's not the point.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 13, 2019 9:54 PM  

AndyT wrote:In most US states, including the ones I practice, you must prove that the defendant (the interlocutor) was 'negligent'.
Tortious interference hinges on negligence? It's not enough that the interferer deliberately set out to disrupt a business relationship?

Blogger AndyT December 13, 2019 10:27 PM  

> Lawyers.... I swear, you guys never know how to think outside your precedents. Of course there can be no claim for damages relating to Instagram, because Instagram provides no value. That's not the point.

I should know better honestly. Almost all innovation in the legal field comes from the tiniest percentage of the 1% of lawyers with legal minds centered around pushing limits. Both for good or bad.

Good luck to anyone fighting the enemy.

Blogger My Shield Is Disgust December 13, 2019 10:32 PM  

Can we see those 170 red pills that got him banned? I bet they’re legendary

Blogger Emmanuel December 13, 2019 10:38 PM  

Is Facebook available in every US county ? If so, would a suit filed against them be receivable in any US county ?

Are there county with non Hawaian judges having a clear right wing agenda ?

Just asking.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 13, 2019 10:45 PM  

65. AndyT December 13, 2019 9:20 PM
In most US states, including the ones I practice, you must prove that the defendant (the interlocutor) was 'negligent'.



Negligence (Lat. negligentia)[1] is a failure to exercise appropriate and or ethical ruled care expected to be exercised amongst specified circumstances.[2] The area of tort law known as negligence involves harm caused by failing to act as a form of carelessness possibly with extenuating circumstances. The core concept of negligence is that people should exercise reasonable care in their actions, by taking account of the potential harm that they might foreseeably cause to other people or property.

you would have to prove "negligence" when the damage was ( purported to be ) accidental.

the defendant, in the case, is publicly claiming that it was his goal to harm Owen.

IF
you cannot convict someone of Tortious Interference when the Interference was their intent
THEN
how can anyone be ever be convicted of Interference at all?

so much for Justice under the Law.

Blogger Noah B. December 13, 2019 11:04 PM  

@AndyT

Normally proving tortious interference requires establishing that the defendant knew or should have known that the interference with an existing contract, economic advantage, or prospective business relations was a likely outcome of a tortious or unlawful act. It's not at all about negligence.

Blogger AndyT December 14, 2019 12:36 AM  

furor--

Tortious interference is difficult to prove; it's based on the premise that you can't induce someone to *wrongly* break a contract between two other parties.

In this case, I would imagine any defense would simply point out that Instragrams terms and conditions prohibited BigBear's actions, and so that pointing out those violations, regardless of intent, motive, or damages, is not wrongful.

I think the next defense would be simply that there are no damages - Instagram doesn't pay BigBear anything. The fact that he uses Instragram to promote other paying businesses shouldn't weigh on the decision.

Hoping for some new law. The deplatforming has to stop.

Blogger Jim the Curmudgeon December 14, 2019 12:40 AM  

"perpetuated asinine conspiracy theories including claims that dinosaurs never existed and that the world is flat."

It's interesting to see this hit piece bring up dinosaurs and the flat-earth theory in an effort to make him look like a crackpot. Marginalize him so the average person doesn't bother to look into it.

I don't watch the guy's videos, as I find him about as entertaining as stale bread crumbs. Vox, on the other hand, is actually very humorous. Some of Jordanetics was pure gold.

Blogger Son of John December 14, 2019 12:41 AM  

Put the torch in tortious interferience

Blogger MNW December 14, 2019 12:42 AM  

Based on the update this is less coordination and more a concerned campaign.

IIRC: Stern, love him or hate him, was pushed to satellite radio because of the concerted effort by one very tiny group hiw hated him and filed complaint after complaint with the FCC.

The lefty groups have the benefit of pushing this on other lefties and not having a massive company fighting to save a money maker

Blogger Longshot December 14, 2019 1:17 AM  

Off topic, but has anyone read the book Sanction by Roman McClay? It's getting a lot of positive reviews in certain corners of the manosphere (if that's what it's still called).

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 14, 2019 1:44 AM  

To be quite honest, without "the ride" all I would have is this constant ringing in my ears.

Blogger Silent Draco December 14, 2019 6:54 AM  

LAWWARS Part 7.5: The Crushables is out.

Quarters ready for this game.

Blogger Captain Barnacles December 14, 2019 7:51 AM  

What would demoralize the average man, just strengthens Vox’s resolve. It’s impressive.
And rare. Over at Unz, Audacious Epigone already has us losing the election in a humiliating fashion.

Breathe of fresh air over here.

Blogger Lovekraft December 14, 2019 8:06 AM  

An article just yesterday floated the idea of Trump being allowed to have a first-term do-over to compensate for the non-stop obstruction and interference by the Sorosians.

This meme would make their heads explode and also neutralize (should it be dropped) the inevitable Sorosian call for abandoning two-term Presidencies.

Further, considering how Obama received carte blanche to impose his globalist, open-borders ghetto culture, he should have one of his terms completely nullified.

Interesting times, to say the least. Lawyers are making a k!lling, of course

Blogger peacefulposter December 14, 2019 8:47 AM  

@64 - To be brought down by something that calls itself Right Wing Watch (“a project for People For the American Way”) is an abomination.

Pointing and Shrieking all the way to the bank.

Blogger Dan in Georgia December 14, 2019 8:57 AM  

Jared Holt is a ghost. Owen was saying how he doesn't even know if the guy exists. There is no Wikipedia entry for him. When you type in his name to Wikipedia, it just sends you to the People for the American Way Wiki. If he's even a real guy, we know one thing. He doesn't want any attention on himself. There's nothing on the Infogalactic page either. May be time to shine a light on Jared Holt, if he even exists.

Blogger kmbr December 14, 2019 8:59 AM  

Yet some of the most disgusting porn ever rages on on the platform. Plug in the wrong hashtag and you may get a whole new level of educating on things you'd rather not now. Or rather, your kids might.

Blogger Eduardo December 14, 2019 9:01 AM  

Hey Benjamin, they can't stop the guy with two first names!!!

Just create Owengram and bury the tyrants.

Deus Vult

Blogger Johnny December 14, 2019 9:22 AM  

furor kek tonicus ( Tessa Majors enjoyed all the benefits of Toxic Diversity ) wrote:IF

you cannot convict someone of Tortious Interference when the Interference was their intent

THEN

how can anyone be ever be convicted of Interference at all?

so much for Justice under the Law.


Not a lawyer and I have no idea what the law is in your state, but I did do an internet search under tortuous interference. That produced:

Tortuous interference, also known as intentional interference with contractual relations, in the common law of torts, occurs when one person intentionally damages someone else's contractual or business relationships with a third party causing economic harm.

You are claiming that as the laws covering tortuous interference are commonly written, they don't conform to the commonplace definition of what tortuous interference, and also do not conform to the common idea of what a tort is.

Could be, but if that is the case then I would imagine you sue under some other statue. I would suppose still a tort.

Blogger Didas Kalos December 14, 2019 10:40 AM  

@oswald. You're spoofing? Right?

Blogger VD December 14, 2019 12:52 PM  

Tortious interference is difficult to prove; it's based on the premise that you can't induce someone to *wrongly* break a contract between two other parties.

No, it's not. And no, it's not.

Blogger Pathfinderlight December 14, 2019 1:02 PM  

Somehow I doubt the argument of "I meant to do it, so that makes me innocent" isn't going to fly in this case.

Blogger Avalanche December 14, 2019 3:35 PM  

@69 "Can we see those 170 red pills that got him banned?"

Now THERE would be an Owen Benjamin book!

"170 Red Pills for Life" by Humanity's Most Chased-Down Comedian"

A red pill on one page with a related meme on the facing page. Publishing GOLD! Chapters include Family and Farm, How to Wife, Comedy on the Runway, Red-Pill Rooster!, Internet Banning and Recovering Damages, Chopping Alternative Paths...

Any other ideas for chapters?

Blogger map December 14, 2019 4:24 PM  

VD wrote:Tortious interference is difficult to prove; it's based on the premise that you can't induce someone to *wrongly* break a contract between two other parties.

No, it's not. And no, it's not.


I don't know how anyone makes this argument.

Tortious interference is either:

1) A legal theory taught exclusively in law school.
2) A statute at the state and federal level.
3) Thoroughly litigated and thus documented in case law.

or, some combination of all three.

VD, what is your checklist for running these kind of cases? How do you not end up like that anime voice-over actor who left everything to his lawyer?

Don't answer if it gives anything away.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 14, 2019 6:04 PM  

86. Johnny December 14, 2019 9:22 AM
You are claiming


i'm not actually claiming anything other than that Andy's position is logically incoherent.

which is not the same thing as asserting that Andy is wrong about the way TI tends to be litigated in his state.

i have a VERY low opinion of judges ( and other lawyers ), ranging all the way up to Chief Justice John Roberts who unilaterally re-wrote the Obamacare bill from the bench. that act, of itself, should have seen him impeached and disbarred for life.

Blogger sammibandit December 14, 2019 7:00 PM  

https://infogalactic.com/info/Tortious_interference

https://infogalactic.com/info/Negligence

Lucifer was the first tortfeasor. I learned that word yesterday after reading these pages. Then I got lost in a hole about litigations of McDonalds. It was fun. Hope everyone with questions checks these pages out.

Blogger Off The Wall December 15, 2019 8:13 AM  

Another victim of the woke:
https://linhdinhphotos.blogspot.com/2019/12/an-appeal-from-craig-nelsen.html

Anonymous Anonymous December 15, 2019 11:35 AM  

if you create an organization to interfere with the rights of others, eventually it will get around to interfering with your rights too.

Blogger OneWingedShark December 16, 2019 10:07 AM  

VD wrote:Hoping there's no some new case law to be made. But it seems unlikely.

Lawyers.... I swear, you guys never know how to think outside your precedents. Of course there can be no claim for damages relating to Instagram, because Instagram provides no value. That's not the point.

That's by design. The law-schools are pushing precedent-based reasoning because it allows one to search out some ruling somewhere and use it to build their case, even if that case is directly against the law. IOW, it's pilpul that's been institutionalized.

An alternative to this system would be heavily philosophy- and logic-based, recognizing that [in the US at least] the Courts are established by the Constitution and therefore subject to it rather than superior to it, which is the end-goal of their pilpul-based system.

AndyT wrote:I should know better honestly. Almost all innovation in the legal field comes from the tiniest percentage of the 1% of lawyers with legal minds centered around pushing limits. Both for good or bad.

Good luck to anyone fighting the enemy.

There's a lot that is wrong due to the inconsistency of the precedent-supremacy system, a lot of good could be done by remedying that inconsistency.

Towerclimber wrote:if you create an organization to interfere with the rights of others, eventually it will get around to interfering with your rights too.
Pv 26:27 — Whoever digs a pit will fall into it, And he who rolls a stone will have it roll back on him.

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