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Saturday, December 28, 2019

They always want to escape consequences

And whatever happened to that whole "speech has consequences" idea they were pushing anyhow?
Back in September, we reported that TV network OAN had filed a lawsuit against Rachel Maddow for the time the host said that OAN “really, literally is paid Russian propaganda.”

Now, Maddow finds herself having to come up with a defense for her statement in court. And she has also apparently hired Lionel Hutz as her legal adviser.

According to Culttture, her lawyers argued in a recent motion that "…the liberal host was clearly offering up her ‘own unique expression’ of her views to capture what she saw as the ‘ridiculous’ nature of the undisputed facts. Her comment, therefore, is a quintessential statement ‘of rhetorical hyperbole, incapable of being proved true or false."
So Maddow is looking for the court to give her a free pass to say anything she likes, because her words can never be considered true or false. It's an interesting, and perhaps even novel, legal theory, but I tend to doubt even a sympathetic liberal judge is likely to accept it.

Especially given the particular emphasis she really, literally, placed upon it.

However this is an excellent example of what happens when an individual abandons Truth, as he - or she - eventually becomes incapable of seeing or even speaking the truth.

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44 Comments:

Blogger Solon December 28, 2019 1:20 PM  

How, pray tell, is calling someone "literally Russian propaganda" hyperbole? They're trying to redefine what the word "literally" means now.

Humpty Dumpty and who/whom comes to mind. Calling her Humpty Dumpty isnt useful as rhetoric though; not enough people know that story to make the connection. They would assume you're calling them fat/egg-shaped.

Anyone else got any ideas for a rhetorical kill-shot?

Blogger Solon December 28, 2019 1:23 PM  

Additionally, it is quite simple to prove the veracity of the statement "X is literally Russian propaganda." Maybe she should have thought twice before including the word "literally."

I would dig into Maddow's and her company's finances. I suspect there are some Russian influences there which would bring the whole hypocritical house of cards tumbling down. Not that liberals care about hypocrisy, of course, and not that it makes her statement any less defamatory even if there isnt Russian money.

Blogger cecilhenry December 28, 2019 1:51 PM  

Sounds like she literally means:

'ITs not a problem when WE say it. Because we're the special snowflake people. (And you're NOT)'


More liberal arrogance and condescension.



Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia December 28, 2019 2:04 PM  

Not only does she WANT to escape consequences, she probably will. She'll hide behind freedom of the press and some such nonsense and skate along.

Meanwhile, her show is the only thing keeping MSNBC afloat in the ratings. I move from time to time in university circles, and it is astonishing how much she is loved by the leftoid academic cabal. She's the shits, in their view.

Being a lezzy Rhodes scholar gives her a gigantic quantity of woke pokemon points which she has leveraged into a $10 mill a year gig with a swooning audiences.

You would weep if it weren't so absurd.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 28, 2019 2:20 PM  

Speech only has consequences for you.

Blogger Rek. December 28, 2019 2:21 PM  

Rachel Maddow really literally looks like an ugly lesbo.

Blogger Jeroth December 28, 2019 2:26 PM  

I tend to doubt even a sympathetic liberal judge is likely to accept it.

If not now, soon.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid December 28, 2019 2:29 PM  

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Blogger maniacprovost December 28, 2019 2:38 PM  

"paid" is probably worse than "literally" for Maddie's case. Paid is 100% factual, whereas propaganda is somewhat subjective. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a legal definition of propaganda somewhere but it could still be considered hyperbole.

Blogger Gregory the Tall December 28, 2019 2:43 PM  

Falsehoods have consequences...
Peterson got that one right.

Blogger bornagainpenguin December 28, 2019 2:49 PM  

So Maddow and her network want to argue in court they are legally fake news? Truly some meme magic at work here. I love it!

Blogger traderdoc December 28, 2019 2:51 PM  

Nothing I say can be considered true or false is a legal definition of insanity.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 28, 2019 2:58 PM  

1. Solon December 28, 2019 1:20 PM
They're trying to redefine what the word "literally" means now.



which words do they not redefine? that's probably a shorter list.

Blogger Mad Italian December 28, 2019 3:00 PM  

OT: SW 9 drops 70% over last week Friday.

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3305145857/?ref_=bo_hm_rd

Blogger Tucker Carlson/Sam Hyde 2024 December 28, 2019 3:03 PM  

How very Talmudic.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 28, 2019 3:12 PM  

cecilhenry wrote:Sounds like she literally means:

'ITs not a problem when WE say it. Because we're the special snowflake people. (And you're NOT)'

Who-whom, every single time.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 28, 2019 3:17 PM  

The Jewish Meltdown continues apace, Brett Stephens' seminal work on IQ notwithstanding.

Blogger David Ray Milton December 28, 2019 3:30 PM  

Homos are the archetypal solipsists. You have to live in upside down world to engage in their behavior.

Blogger Raker_T December 28, 2019 3:30 PM  

This morning I was looking at Psalm 73. The author is lamenting how much the wicked get away with. Part of what he says is this:
"...When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me; Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end. Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.
I was reminded of that old saying "The bigger they are, the harder they fall". The left has gotten away with playing fast and loose with the truth so long that they got really sloppy. Now they can't even field a believable candidate, so they fabricate stories for impeachment.

Blogger urthshu December 28, 2019 3:36 PM  

It's not "literally" at issue so much as "Russian" though. If she had said "literally propaganda" she could get away with it but not "Russian propaganda". That's too specific.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 28, 2019 3:58 PM  

14. Mad Italian December 28, 2019 3:00 PM
OT: SW 9 drops 70% over last week Friday.


you're looking for the WEEKEND number, not Friday vs Friday.

opening week includes Wed and Thurs early showing numbers, so that 1st Friday is going to be grossly inflated relative to anything the 2nd Friday could possibly achieve. Sat v Sat and Sun v Sun would be valid comparisons.

you'll notice that the midweek number is a big positive due to Christmas falling on Wednesday.

no way this thing is doing a billion domestically, though. unless it does monster numbers on New Years it still might not get $500 million domestic. and that puts the 1 beelion world gross out of reach.

Blogger Dole December 28, 2019 4:00 PM  

This will wipe the smug off her face good... But just wait until the Trumpslide.

Blogger Centurion Revolt December 28, 2019 4:13 PM  

All she needs is an alpha man.

Blogger tublecane December 28, 2019 4:21 PM  

@23- That the one thing she can't have, unless she's willing to settle for a pimp or take her place in line as #27 at the harem.

Blogger tublecane December 28, 2019 4:23 PM  

Judge: your argument is ridiculous and the court refuses to entertain it.

Maddow lawyer: that's why you're the judge and I'm the law-talkin' guy.

Blogger tublecane December 28, 2019 4:25 PM  

@11- Well, hers is an "opinion" show, not strictly news. If there is a difference. Hard to tell, since there's virtually zero difference between "news" on those channels and people talking about the news. The newsy anchors editorialize constantly.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 28, 2019 4:27 PM  

no Alpha man would have Rachel.

Blogger ace December 28, 2019 4:45 PM  

Maddow is literally a Jewish MTF transsexual.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) December 28, 2019 5:01 PM  

speaking of the weekend number, the forecast is for an ... 85% drop?

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl3305145857/weekend/?ref_=bo_rl_tab#tabs

that hardly seems possible to me.

unless Disney is pushing Fake News forecasts so ROS can "beat expectations", i have no idea how the movie can be forecasting so abysmally low for the 2nd weekend.

and i think it's retarded.

Blogger Zaklog the Great December 28, 2019 6:47 PM  

@1 Anyone else got any ideas for a rhetorical kill-shot?

Donate the dumb dyke a dictionary.

Blogger Shield up sword swinging pipes blasting December 28, 2019 7:58 PM  

Everytime I read something like this it reminds me of my lying mother and cousins...sigh.

Blogger Akulkis December 28, 2019 7:58 PM  

"Meanwhile, her show is the only thing keeping MSNBC afloat in the ratings. I move from time to time in university circles, and it is astonishing how much she is loved by the leftoid academic cabal. She's the shits, in their view."

Rhetorical response:

Rachel Maddow's legal defense is that nothing she says on air is factual or true.

Blogger pdwalker December 28, 2019 9:00 PM  

@ace, now that is slander.

i’ve seen pictures of her in University, before she came out. She was a bit plain and a bit masculine, but she certainly wasn’t male.

Blogger Akuma December 28, 2019 10:51 PM  

"All she needs is an alpha man."

Those don't exist. If they did Our Uncle Sam wouldn't be working with Satan to destroy Western Civilization.

Blogger Akulkis December 28, 2019 11:03 PM  

Of course, there's the other question:

Since lesbians hate men so much, why do they they attract each other by dress like us men and wear their hair like us?

Blogger GrzyMcKneezy December 28, 2019 11:20 PM  

Isn't Lionel Hutz the attorney from the Simpsons?

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 29, 2019 2:34 AM  

Yes, that is the extremely obvious joke.

Blogger God Emperor Memes December 29, 2019 2:35 AM  

Because they actually hate themselves and wish they were men.

Blogger DonReynolds December 29, 2019 10:59 AM  

Rachel Mad-cow would never be satisfied with abandoning the Truth. ALL Leftists in the Media, which is nearly all of the Media, is no friend of the Truth. But what Rachel wants is the ability to slander in public and to do that she will have to re-label her rants as comedy. Yes, the most direct slanders found in the Media are either from the Deep State or from comedians. Rachel is going to be forced to drop the pretense of reporting the "news" and serious political commentary and join SNL and Comedy Central. Move over Stephen Colbert. Write another check Jon Stewart.

Blogger Clay December 29, 2019 1:00 PM  

When I first read that Maddow was a Rhodes Scholar, I was surprised. Then, I did some research on the Rhodes Scholarship.

I wasn't surprised anymore.

By the way, Mayor Butt Plug is one too. I hear he and his wife want to adopt a child when in the White House. May Pete says she will make a "great dad" I wonder who wields the dildo in that "family"?

Blogger Statix December 30, 2019 12:30 AM  

Free speech for me, but not for thee. Tee-hee-hee...

Blogger MrNiceguy December 31, 2019 9:36 AM  

Give her some credit. On the "quarts of eye-bleach" scale, she is far less ugly than the average lesbian.

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