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Saturday, January 18, 2020

Apples to apples

I was pretty sure that I was faster than Derrick Henry back in the day, but I didn't realize I was THAT much faster:
Also a standout track & field athlete, Henry competed as a sprinter at Yulee from 2010 to 2011. He posted a personal-best time of 11.11 seconds in the 100-meter dash at the 2011 FHSAA 2A District 3 Championships, where he placed seventh.
I found that mildly amusing, as my best high school 100-meter time was 10.82. Of course, it's not just Henry's speed that makes him a great running back. It's one thing to run that fast at 135 pounds, it's another thing to do it at 235. I remember watching Darrell Thompson play at the University of Minnesota during my college track days and thinking, "I wonder if I could do that? He's slower than me... but then, he is probably a LOT harder to bring down." Thompson and I were at the same meet once, but we didn't run against each other. He was beaten by one of my teammates, though.

It's even more amusing to see that Wikipedia considers Henry to be "a standout track & field athlete" when it doesn't even mention my track & field career, which included multiple conference championships, both individual and team, at the high school and NCAA D1 levels.

UPDATE: An alternate history sidenote. In my very brief football career, which ended at the age of 8, I almost never got on the field because the coach always played this one boy who was very fast and strong at running back. The boy also grew up to be an excellent sprinter in high school, although we never happened to run against each other due to being in different conferences and regions. But there was no shame in sitting on the bench behind him, as he wound up being an All-American running back who held his conference's career rushing record for 12 years.

Years later, that coach apologized to me for never even trying to give me a chance to get on the field. But I didn't have a problem with it at the time, and it was probably a blessing in the end because I'm the only one of the three Minnesota sprinters mentioned who hasn't had any knee or hip surgeries. I certainly wouldn't still be playing soccer. But it is intriguing to think of how good one high school's football and track teams might have been if I'd stayed in the public school system and continued playing football instead of soccer.

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33 Comments:

Blogger Trump Ally January 18, 2020 8:20 AM  

Great job Vox. I know your IQ is high but I think it is your "guts" that make you unique. Fearless...

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 18, 2020 8:29 AM  

Henry turns seams into railroad tunnels, it was amazing to watch him the last two weeks. Can't take a thing away from Henry, but the spewers of the narrative are still pure scum, as we discuss endlessly over at CasteFootball.

Blogger Rek. January 18, 2020 8:34 AM  

Being courageous. Speaking the Truth. Honoring God always. Facing the backlash, taking the blows and standing up again.

Thats what Vox does, Owen, EMJ or Jesse Lee Peterson.

Its not the IQ, the muscles or the athleticism. All these great men will just not take it. They will not surrender.

Having all of it, as Vox does, is of course quite enjoyable.

Blogger SDH January 18, 2020 9:03 AM  

People are scared to try to tackle you at 335:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jiu52DN8vYA

Blogger Shane Bradman January 18, 2020 9:04 AM  

Derrick Henry is very fast for such a bulky guy. If you manage to catch up to him, there's a good chance he'll shake off your tackle. A lot of players can outrun him easily, but not a lot of players at that speed can knock him down consistently.

Blogger Weak January 18, 2020 9:24 AM  

Track speed is to football speed what science is to engineering.

Blogger PseudonymousMe January 18, 2020 9:47 AM  

Who is faster: 10.82s100m or 48.01s 400m?

11.1s would not be fast enough to make my high school T&F ream except as third leg in 4x100m relay. (We had two guys clocking 10.6 and 10.7 and me at 11.0s)

For possibly the largest momentum clocked, check out the stats of Tongan/NZ super freak Jonah Lomu.

6’5”, 260lb,10.8s 100m.

In possibly the best NZ rugby team ever, he was the fastest, tallest, heaviest, strongest, with best vertical.

And he could step. https://youtu.be/OsXTa7UCGlk

Would have been the greatest running back evah.

Blogger James Dixon January 18, 2020 10:12 AM  

> It's even more amusing, though, to see that Wikipedia considers Henry to be "a standout track & field athlete" when it doesn't even mention my track & field career, which included multiple conference championships, both individual and team, at the high school and NCAA D1 levels.

Does Wikipedia ever say anything good about you that isn't a backhanded compliment in one way or another?

Blogger Project Volk January 18, 2020 10:43 AM  

I do enjoy these kinds of critiques. It further undermines the leftist narrative that they have any kind of objectivity at all and further proof of how pedantic and lousy they are. It's sort of like they how they can't tell the truth at all about any event unless they can some how make it about themselves or use it to disparage or attack their enemies.

Blogger Gregory the Tall January 18, 2020 10:48 AM  

Wikipedia always lies

Blogger VD January 18, 2020 10:54 AM  

Who is faster: 10.82s100m or 48.01s 400m?

The 100m time, on average. Most sub-11 100m sprinters will run under 46 in the 400m. A 48-second 400m runner will probably be in the 11.8 range in the 100. For example, Michael Johnson ran 10.1 and 43.2.

Track speed is to football speed what science is to engineering.

Speed is great, but you still need other components anyhow. Look at the WRs who can't catch or can't run routes, the RBs who can't block or hold onto the ball. And acceleration counts more than top speed too.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia January 18, 2020 10:58 AM  

The most important characteristics for a running back are, in order of importance:

Vision
Fluidity
Power
Speed

In other words, you can't be slow, but you don't need to be a sprinter.

Speed doesn't matter that much because defenders aren't running WITH you, they are FACING you. You need to get around them, or go through them.

And if you do get past them, all you need is a three or four yard head start. If you have sufficient speed, not track star speed but good enough speed, they may run out of running room necessary to catch you.

Blogger sammibandit January 18, 2020 11:04 AM  

I know Americans sometimes come up for CFL training so I imagine they're like the boys we have here. Hearing 235 lbs is not like seeing it across the room. Football players are huge. Just behemoth. You get enough in one room with their WAGs and you really see how we're a sexually dymorphic species.

If I had a wiki page I'd want my athletic achievements recorded (won city champs twice in U13 and U15 soccer as right winger/striker and MVP in U15.) Heck, I might even want that listed more than other things. A natural athelete is a force of nature. We simply appreciate the beauty of His design.

Ultimately, SJWs lack fitness and finesse so it's no surprise they edit out records of others.

Blogger peacefulposter January 18, 2020 11:13 AM  

Looking forward to seeing how the sprinting phenom, Matt Boling, aka White Lightning, does in college. If you haven't seen his highlights on YT, they are worth checking out. He's the kid who went sub 10 seconds in high school.

Blogger Daniel January 18, 2020 11:58 AM  

Henry gets caught by linebackers. Problem is, they can't bring him down. He's even a little slow for his stride, but that acceleration, power, control and balance make him ultraman on the field. Chiefs need to get Tannehill out of sorts...because they won't stop Henry.

Blogger rcocean January 18, 2020 12:12 PM  

Dorset and Sayers had an uncanny ability to know when to run straight ahead and when to go against the flow. Czonka just plowed ahead, ran over people and never gave up. There's more to a RB than just speed and size. Of course it helps. Once Campbell or Bo Jackson got ahead of the LB's it was TD city.

Blogger Stilicho January 18, 2020 12:40 PM  

Hey, I was as fast as Henry in the hundred and likely much faster in the 200. I would've been a great receiver... if I could only catch the ball...

Blogger Dave January 18, 2020 12:43 PM  

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Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia January 18, 2020 12:43 PM  

Derek Henry's 99 yard touchdown run against the Jags in 2018.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlZvgdcIXvI

Starting 8 yards in the end zone, he steps right, shift quickly the left as he sees the Jag defenders collapse inside.

During the course of the run, three defenders catch up to him, but none can bring him down. He flings one of them aside with his right arm like the guy's a rag doll.

Incredible.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 18, 2020 12:49 PM  

Two torn ACLs later (one in ninth grade football and the second four month ago) I find myself wondering if the work ethic and team building skills are worth double knee osteoarthritis in my future. Friday nights were magical, but it’s hard to be useful for the times ahead when both knee joints are grinding themselves to a pulp.

Maybe stem cell research will prove useful for knees one day.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 18, 2020 12:51 PM  

Many of the fast guys can’t even get past his extended arm.

Blogger Dave January 18, 2020 12:58 PM  

Sometimes even the WaPo gets a headline right:

You might be able to tackle Derrick Henry. But you're not going to like it.

You wince for them already, the breakable souls for the Kansas City Chiefs who have to try to tackle Derrick Henry. The most imposing force left in these NFL playoffs is Henry when he dents a line. By his fourth step, the 6-foot-3, 247-pound Tennessee Titans running back is moving at an estimated 21 miles per hour. The defenders who meet that will be promptly and forcibly reminded of what Jim Brown once said: “Make sure when anyone tackles you, he remembers how much it hurts.”

Chiefs safety Tyrann Mathieu remembers. He tackled Henry earlier this season, and thought he’d broken his jaw. He told CBS it was like hitting solid rock. Baltimore Ravens all-pro cornerback Marlon Humphrey felt Henry, in their upset loss to the Titans in the AFC divisional round last week. He recommends that anyone who wants to try it go to the weight room and “get an extra lift in.”


Accelerating to 21 mph by his 4th step sounds mighty quick to me.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia January 18, 2020 1:05 PM  

Sterling Pilgrim wrote:Two torn ACLs later (one in ninth grade football and the second four month ago) I find myself wondering if the work ethic and team building skills are worth double knee osteoarthritis in my future. Friday nights were magical, but it’s hard to be useful for the times ahead when both knee joints are grinding themselves to a pulp.

Maybe stem cell research will prove useful for knees one day.


I've been involved in the medical device and bioengineering fields in a rather roundabout way, but I will tell you the knee and hip replacement technology is improving all the time. And the surgeons are very good.

Do not hesitate to get a knee replacement, especially if the pain becomes huge. You won't regret it. However, you must, absolutely must, do your rehab -- and totally. Those who don't like one of my relatives, will wind up in a worse position.

Blogger Section 8A January 18, 2020 1:07 PM  

We won everything my senior year in NYC public school track: X/C, Indoor and outdoor. We had a distance running heavy squad. We could have used a guy like you for either the 400m on our DMR or opening leg of the 2-2-4-8 SMR.

We had a guy similar to you, a Greek (white) kid, and we needed one more. In those days before the Poz, our coach, a little Jewish guy, a track genius, said that "God made a mistake" as the white was so fast. We lol'ed before there was such a thing...

Blogger James Lovebirch January 18, 2020 1:13 PM  

On Wikipedia the answer is obvious, anti-indian racism.

Blogger Patrick Kelly January 18, 2020 1:17 PM  

First time I saw Henry carry the ball I thought who the @#$% is that beast?!?!? Like a freight train through hay bales.

Blogger James Dixon January 18, 2020 1:57 PM  

> Dorset and Sayers had an uncanny ability to know when to run straight ahead and when to go against the flow.

As KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia says, vision. Someone once asked Dorset how many defensive players he could see in his field of vision from the running back spot and he answered "all of them".

Blogger JRR January 18, 2020 3:00 PM  

My best time was 10.66 - but we ran 100 yards back then,not meters.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim January 18, 2020 3:46 PM  

Good to hear. And concerning rehab, noted.

Blogger RC January 18, 2020 4:34 PM  

"Friday nights were magical, but it’s hard to be useful for the times ahead when both knee joints are grinding themselves to a pulp."

I've endured the knee surgery, back when it was primitive compared to today. It was worth it. The discipline instilled by the gridiron was indispensable to what I've accomplished thus far in my life and will help me endure and hopefully thrive in the days ahead, whatever those days might bring. I've just finished a workout that the average man twenty years my junior couldn't complete. That discipline came from the gridiron.

If you get the knee replacement, get the stats on the hospital's infection rates. A post-op infection can turn the near routine into absolute hell.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira January 18, 2020 8:14 PM  

You probably protected yall mentals by not playing football. And that is ok, because you still took care of chicken.

Blogger Stilicho January 18, 2020 8:24 PM  

I played behind my best friend in high school. He was nearly as fast as me, 20 lbs heavier and a much better athlete.

When we ran track, we occasionally ran against a future Olympic gold medalist who was two years younger. That kid was amazing to watch. It was usually a matter of everyone else fighting for second place. I smoked him once in a 4x200 relay where he had a head start, but only because he got complacent and didn't know I was coming. Guys in that league just don't operate on the same level as other athletes. It doesn't always last for them, but when they're in their prime, they are damned hard to beat.

My favorite Henry play this season was watching him grab a defender and use him as a blocker down the field. The man is a beast when he gets rolling.

Blogger KeenEyedJoe January 20, 2020 2:10 AM  

Wow! Amazing athletic ability.

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