Friday, January 10, 2020

Epstein didn't delete the video

But someone did:
The surveillance video taken from outside Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell on the day of his first apparent suicide attempt has been permanently deleted, federal prosecutors said Thursday.

Epstein, the disgraced financier who was facing federal sex-trafficking charges, was found semiconscious in his cell at the Metropolitan Correctional Center, or MCC, in New York around 1:27 a.m. on July 23.

But that video is now gone because MCC officials mistakenly saved video from a different floor of the federal detention facility, prosecutors said in a court filing. The MCC "inadvertently preserved video from the wrong tier within the MCC and as a result, video from outside the defendant's cell on July 22-23, 2019 no longer exists," the court papers say.
It's time to outlaw the surveillance state. The cameras quite obviously don't work well enough to permit it to function at all.

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Blogger Balam January 10, 2020 11:02 AM  

What a load of shit!

Blogger R Webfoot January 10, 2020 11:03 AM  

"You numbskull, you saved over the Epstein suicide attempt video!"
"What? I thought I was saving over the moon landing telemetry!"

Blogger Rex Leroy King January 10, 2020 11:08 AM  

It's going to be funny when the NSA releases it.

Blogger Jeroth January 10, 2020 11:13 AM  

When you take a look at who was working at the facility, it's admittedly kinda difficult to completely rule out incompetence.

Blogger Rakshasa January 10, 2020 11:15 AM  

Saw a meme pic about a saudi billionair who accidentally slipped and fell into a UK teenager's girly parts, and was acquitted because all the semen was from an earlier tryst that he forgot to wash off.

More believable than the 'did kill himself' narrative.

Blogger Newscaper312 January 10, 2020 11:19 AM  

The way most of these security systems work, hard drives are filled up, swapped out and rotated, and reused/overwritten after some time interval, presumably allowing long enough for someone to realize some event happened and the video saved or copied before the normal rotation would cause it to be lost.

So the explanation is not BS... but neither does mean it is true here.

Blogger CarpeOro January 10, 2020 11:19 AM  

This is going to be one of those memes that keeps going for awhile, like:
1) bad as Hitler/just like Hitler.
2) definitely wasn't Meth.
3) ...Epstein suicide.

Slowly, a growing portion of the population is reaching the saturation point for fake news. The NYT et al have reached the point where the tabloids are a step up the food chain. Wonder when the forces propping them up decide the returns have diminished to the point that it isn't worth it?

Blogger Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi January 10, 2020 11:27 AM  

It looks like Owen has some competition in the comedy arena...

Blogger Oswald January 10, 2020 11:36 AM  

This is fake news. You can't erase something that never existed. This being an inside job, the camera would have been turned off prior to the murder.

Blogger riffer73 January 10, 2020 11:42 AM  

Keep in mind this is the suicide attempt, not the murder.

Blogger Balkan Yankee January 10, 2020 11:42 AM  

CCTV is overrated.

Blogger Gulo Gulo January 10, 2020 11:43 AM  

“It's going to be funny when the NSA releases it.”

Dont hold your breath.. the only thing they seem to be releasing these days are 19 million dick picks.
Yes , thats the number that an NSA employee was busted for siphoning off of their servers.

Blogger xevious2030 January 10, 2020 11:46 AM  

And in entirely unrelated news, the Justice Department found absolutely nothing to prosecute any Clinton for. With some, it is not a coin toss or incompetance.

Blogger Melvin January 10, 2020 11:49 AM  

Oh, just like the moon-landing telemetry tapes! But, I guess sometimes mistakes like that just happen... :D

Blogger pdwalker January 10, 2020 11:54 AM  

at some point, even the normies have to start thinking that the added up coincidences start to become ever so slightly improbable.

Even Murphy would find it hard to swallow.

Blogger Raker_T January 10, 2020 11:57 AM  

" Wonder when the forces propping them up decide the returns have diminished to the point that it isn't worth it?"
They'll find a way to get subsidized. Public utility, for the good of the children.

Blogger OneWingedShark January 10, 2020 11:59 AM  

The cameras only work when they implicate you

Blogger Oswald January 10, 2020 12:00 PM  

10. got it.

Blogger Servant January 10, 2020 12:02 PM  

Guys moon landing telemetry from the most important scientific achievement is not that important.

Blogger NP_see January 10, 2020 12:12 PM  

It amazes me that anyone at all believes the official narrative anymore.

Blogger bramley January 10, 2020 12:18 PM  

The Epstein didn't kill himself video didn't kill itself.

Blogger tublecane January 10, 2020 12:25 PM  

"We did an oopsie!"

Probably some federal agency could pull up video of me *right now*, but outside the cell of one of the highest-profile prisoners ever? Naw.

Blogger Max Renn January 10, 2020 12:25 PM  

guvmnt has every incentive to "lose" evidence as that immediately determines guvmnt innocence.

There should be a law that whenever guvmnt "loses" evidence, guvmnt personnel guilt is immediately established.

Blogger Sambuca_Ford January 10, 2020 12:26 PM  

They are not even trying anymore. Also, it seems Chick-fil-A decided not to be a kept shiksha.

Blogger Balkan Yankee January 10, 2020 12:26 PM  

@17: Thread. Winner.

Blogger Ultrahardcore January 10, 2020 12:35 PM  

How stupid do they think we are?

Blogger Freddy Sea January 10, 2020 12:37 PM  

CarpeOro said:
--- "The NYT et al have reached the point where the tabloids are a step up the food chain."

This reminded me of the original MIB movie line where the real stories are in the tabloids. That was early programing for me giving weight to the main stream narrative (MIB is just a movie).

It seems like there should be a lot of opportunities for good memes with this concept of "The government destroyed the (Epstien Security footage, Moon Landing footage, Hillary servers whatever else), but it kept around your browsing history" type of a setup.

Blogger Scott January 10, 2020 12:38 PM  

The Correctional facility I worked for was required to hold 6 months of backup footage, available by legal request to a permanent copy.

What's really galling about this lie is there's always more than one camera / angle. Not just of the cell, but also every entrance and exit from the unit the cell was in, and the hallways the unit was in, and the entire correctional facility.

So they lost everything, then. Except the wrong camera inside the unit?

His suicide was August 10. Exactly 6 months to the day "We lost all the data".


Blogger swiftfoxmark2 January 10, 2020 12:40 PM  

I care not about what they record but who controls the storage of it.

Blogger Boomer55 January 10, 2020 12:41 PM  

Binney has said the NSA has everything, especially on federal government matters, and in federal court cases, a "parallel reconstruction" is done to get around the warrant problem. It's basically lying about the order and means of discovery of evidence, using the general "warrant" the NSA has in aggregating data in a way it was never intended. There's more to this, and as AG Barr has said, "these things take time!"

But dey wuz kangz en sheet!

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel January 10, 2020 12:48 PM  

Because no facility would ever have a standard policy of saving video from ALL cameras for a minimum period of time before discarding it or overwriting it.

And of course, modern systems are saving to hard drives, not VHS tapes so the data can be recovered even after overwriting.

The acrid stench of horse manure again fills our lungs.

Blogger Scott January 10, 2020 12:50 PM  

Depends on how old the cctv recording system is. The older ones are not connected to the internet. Just private LAN hook ups.

The newer systems though... they can be accessed online from anywhere, and they're backed up to a cloud so nothing gets deleted.

If a hacker can get access to the account of anyone at that facility who is LT grade or higher, they'll have access to everything on a newer system.

The data isn't gone yet.

Blogger Scott January 10, 2020 1:37 PM  

The more I think about it, even if the video is gone the people who have seen the cctv or know what's on the cctv are still here.

There's a facebook group for the above mentioned correctional facility. Even if there was a memo from the brass not to talk about Epstein, they'll be talking about it with thinly veiled "code". And in public, because people are really that stupid.

Blogger Seeingsights January 10, 2020 1:43 PM  

The video is wiped. My theory is that the murder of Epstein is partly an inside job: someone who works at the prison took a bribe to murder Epstein. The destroying of internal evidence in the prison is to such an extent that someone who knows how the prison operates did it.
In related news, ghislaine maxwell, has not been found. There are reports that she's hiding in a safe house. I think it more likely that she got murdered too and her body dumped into the sea. Dead women tell no tales.
I heard of an academic paper which determines when conspiracies will be found out. It's an inverse relationship to the number of people involved in the conspiracy, for example if 100 people were involved, the conspiracy will be found out within 4 years, something like that.
If two or theee people were involved in Epstein's murder, then we will not know who murdered him in the few hundred years.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 10, 2020 1:50 PM  

The United States didn't destroy itself.

Blogger Wario's Mart January 10, 2020 2:16 PM  

I still remember the days I saw the news 'Epstein killed himself'. It must have been how the first Soviet citizen felt when they truly understood the society they lived in was a Potemkin village and they were serfs.

I felt like vomiting.

What a hilarious shitpile.

Blogger Duke Norfolk January 10, 2020 2:40 PM  

Totally not suspicious at all. Nope. And yet there are still people in our society who will swallow this stuff whole. But I'm sure the number of those people is rapidly dwindling.

Blogger Warunicorn January 10, 2020 2:50 PM  

Could they be any more brazen?

Blogger MrNiceguy January 10, 2020 3:52 PM  

In related news, ghislaine maxwell, has not been found. There are reports that she's hiding in a safe house. I think it more likely that she got murdered too and her body dumped into the sea. Dead women tell no tales.

Unlikely.If Maxwell doesn't have a document dump set up with a deadman's switch, then she's in Hell's special-ed room.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid January 10, 2020 4:30 PM  

Seeingsights wrote:In related news, ghislaine maxwell, has not been found. There are reports that she's hiding in a safe house. I think it more likely that she got murdered too and her body dumped into the sea. Dead women tell no tales.

Very unlikely, her father was highly respected. The Israelis are less likely to go after her than David was to go after Saul's daughter.

Blogger God Emperor Memes January 10, 2020 4:53 PM

Blogger Deus Vult January 10, 2020 5:06 PM  

@21 The Epstein didn't kill himself video didn't kill itself.

Blogger Shadow Banisher January 10, 2020 5:26 PM  

"apparent suicide."

Eh, not so apparent.

Blogger weka January 10, 2020 8:39 PM  

They are trying to keep the Arkencide rate down. Einstein is not the only one who did not kill himself.

Worth noting Cljnton is in as many photos with Epstein's young women as Prince Andrew. The Royals are being forced clean house... Washington as yet has not done so.

Blogger Owen Martin January 11, 2020 2:28 AM  

They had 6 months to go and find the correct footage. If they downloaded the wrong cell, you go back and find the correct one. You have 6 months to do this. Before it's too late.

Blogger Avalanche January 12, 2020 8:18 AM  

@6 "the normal rotation would cause it to be lost"

Riiiight, and it "just happened" that the Feds couldn't be bothered to secure the 3 or 4 tapes from the attempted murder of an EXTREMELY high profile pedo; nor check to make sure those cameras were working on that same prisoner later...

Funny, when you compare that to how the Feds managed to 'secure' every single tape of the 911 Pentagon "plane" from *every single* gas station, hotel, and security-cam all around the Pentagon that just might possibly show something -- within a couple HOURS of the 'crash,' WHILE the building was still burning?!?

"According to the FBI, there were 85 video surveillance cameras in the vicinity"

Things that make you go: hhhhmmmmmmm.

Blogger Avalanche January 12, 2020 8:24 AM  

@37 "who will swallow this stuff whole. But I'm sure the number of those people is rapidly dwindling."

Pollyanna? is that you?

Geez, does anyone alive still get that allusion? Talk about a murdered shared cultural basis...

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