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Wednesday, February 19, 2020

Mailvox: how NOT to respect your deltas

One son of a Delta has some unpleasant childhood memories stemming from his attractive mother:
The part about alpha trying to hit on the very attractive wives of lower status men resonates with me. My mother was always a very attractive woman and she was married to my father, a delta. Alpha men were always hitting on her, including my father's boss at a Christmas party that later devolved into a huge argument when we all returned home. 
It's a difficult situation because it's almost inevitable and is going to be hard on the Delta husband even if his attractive wife is entirely faithful to him. First, it's always pleasant to know that people are drawn to you, and second, it's actually the Delta's lack of confidence in his ability to keep his attractive wife that tends to undermine the relationship.

Because if he gets his panties in a bunch every time over the behavior of others that she can't control, eventually she's going to decide that she might as well do the crime if she's going to do the time anyhow.

The father shouldn't have argued with his wife after the Christmas party, he should have complained to the boss's boss. The most effective weapon against an alpha is a bigger alpha.

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Blogger Lushtree February 19, 2020 12:16 PM  

Does each rank in the Sociosexual Hierachy have a different standard reaction to their wife being hit on? Or is that more varied by individual personalities than sociosexual rank?

I mean, besides Omegas and Lambdas not usually being in a position to deal with that sort of thing.

Blogger Joe Smith February 19, 2020 12:25 PM  

This is the kind of response that doesn't make intuitive sense to me. Why would you go at your wife for someone else being an asshole? You go at the guy and back him off, if it becomes a problem. Even if he's your boss, she is your wife. Better to find a new job than a new wife.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd February 19, 2020 12:29 PM  

Because to a delta, confronting an Alpha can get you killed, policing your wife, according to "the rules" is much easier, simpler and supposedly "more effective" because to the delta, "if I were to break the rules, and someone higher than me read me the riot act, I'd get my mind right with a quickness!"

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 19, 2020 12:31 PM  

The father shouldn't have argued with his wife after the Christmas party, he should have complained to the boss's boss. The most effective weapon against an alpha is a bigger alpha.

This is quite true.

Although, I suppose part of the husband's response depends on how the wife was reacting to the Alpha's attention.

If she was sending the Alpha boss a bunch of strong, IOIs in front of everyone I can understand her husband being pissed.

Blogger Balkan Yankee February 19, 2020 12:35 PM  

Or he could hit on the boss's wife. But then he wouldn't be a Delta.

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare February 19, 2020 12:39 PM  

The fellow doesn't say whether his mother was receptive to the Alpha's efforts; were that the case, would the appropriate response change? How does a Delta deal with his wife flirting with an Alpha? Or, more to the point, how does a man who knows game deal with his wife flirting with other men? Like a shit-test?

Blogger Cataline Sergius February 19, 2020 12:44 PM  

When my wife and I were dating, a major source of amusement for me was watching her shoot down Alphas that were trying to pick her up.

It involved her widest eyed dumb blonde look and saying something like, "how do they refill the restroom hand dryer?"

There was only one time I had to step in.

The Alpha in question kept going on about her eyes even after she had shot him down a three times.

Finally she signaled me and I walked over and said with a smile, "what about my eyes? I'm feeling left out here."

Then I gave him a friendly pat on the shoulder, put my arm around my future-wife's waist and walked off.

That was the end of it.

If he wanted to make something of the shoulder-pat, fine. I'd have been his huckleberry and it sure as hell wouldn't have been my first fight.

But I knew he wouldn't.

Alphas aren't like what they are in the movies. They just move on to the next chick.

Blogger VD February 19, 2020 12:47 PM  

how does a man who knows game deal with his wife flirting with other men?

Not take her next time.

Blogger DJ | AMDG February 19, 2020 12:54 PM  

Not entirely off topic but close to it and something I've been wondering.

Could the Gamma's secret king obsession possibly be not one of desiring to be Alpha but on occasion instead be one of Beta? Secret Royal Advisor, perhaps?

I ask because in my personal Gamma struggles I found I often did not desire to be THE MAN, but I instead wanted very much to be affirmed by THE MAN. Do Alpha's regularly affirm their Beta's? Likewise, is it common for a Gamma to seek Beta status, think they have attained it, only later to be grossly disappointed seeing that others instead hold that position?

Blogger AndyT February 19, 2020 12:57 PM  

It's hard not to see all mate guarding behavior as inherently low-value. I have seen Alpha's go both ways with it though, both being massively overprotective of their mates or being entirely casual, with a "bounty of choices" attitude about their mates.

But on the low-value end of the spectrum, it's seems like it's always over reaction.

Blogger Leoric February 19, 2020 12:58 PM  

I got my wife hired at a company I worked at and when I left but she stayed for a bit she got swarmed with men hitting on her.

I always found it amusing knowing they stand no chance. I showed up once or twice to show her affection and went out a couple of times after work. All the offenders choked in one way or another.

Never gave her shit about it. I do bring it up from time to time if she gets insecure about women on the street.

At this stage in my life I went full Mike Pence in my behavior towards women who are not my wife.

Blogger AndyT February 19, 2020 1:02 PM  

> At this stage in my life I went full Mike Pence in my behavior towards women who are not my wife.

How have you found this? Do you find that you suffer in any way from it, either professionally or socially? It really seems like it's a solid plan given the current state of culture and affairs in the US.

Blogger Tomato bear February 19, 2020 1:02 PM  

I share this in my gamma struggle too. Tho I think the initial estacy like behaviour is sigh and imagined justification for the later angle biting action. A man's true color shows when he is wronged
Presumed or otherwise

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 19, 2020 1:04 PM  

Leoric wrote:At this stage in my life I went full Mike Pence in my behavior towards women who are not my wife.
Not much potential for upside in hanging out with chicks. Ask Paul Nungesser about the downside. For that matter, ask Harvey Weinstein.

Blogger Leoric February 19, 2020 1:08 PM  

No issues. It comes naturally when you talk kids and home life as topic of conversation.

Younger females starting at work you keep it strictly professional and fortunately there isn't much you need them to do anyways.

As far as hanging out after work with co workers I stopped doing that. With exception of holiday parties but all of those are ussually official.

Blogger Akulkis February 19, 2020 1:13 PM  

The commander of the battalion (759th MP BN) my company was assigned to in Iraq (as part of TF 759 MP BN) was... rather odd. Something was just off about him.

(The battalion headquarters was regular army. The battalion-sized taskforce was filled out with a mixture of companies drawn from regular army, reserves, and national guard).

My company was infantry, in lieu of MPs. We considered him to be weak and a try-hard. Before our tour ended, at our last meeting with him, he told us to feel free to attend any 759th MP battalion re-unions in the future. I have no evidence that even a single soldier from my company had a positive response to that suggestion). Even our company commander didn't hide the fact that he didn't like his and our "boss" (something officers rarely let enlisted men know about). The battalion commander preferred the "patrol cap" (hat with a sun visor on the front, in a manner similar to a baseball cap), so our company commander made the sun hat (aka "boonie hat") with it's all-around wide brim our company uniform when not wearing a helmet.

and after our deployment ended, whenever he was mentioned, it was literally as part of a joke.

So, imagine the response when he showed up on the front page of the weekly commercial (civilian) publication Army Times --
for a history and pattern of using "family day" type functions for tongue-kissing the wives of subordinates, both officers and enlisted.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2015/09/17/report-fired-colonel-was-a-bully-who-kissed-soldiers-wives/

Blogger OneWingedShark February 19, 2020 1:15 PM  

DJ | AMDG wrote:I ask because in my personal Gamma struggles I found I often did not desire to be THE MAN, but I instead wanted very much to be affirmed by THE MAN. Do Alpha's regularly affirm their Beta's? Likewise, is it common for a Gamma to seek Beta status, think they have attained it, only later to be grossly disappointed seeing that others instead hold that position?
Hm, interesting situation.
Without commenting on any of the SSH, it's important to note that men need respect, in that same way that women need to feel loved, and this is true of all men: the surest way to crush the normal Delta's soul is to disregard his work, to make it absolutely meaningless. — Also given that the SSH is fractal, it could very well be that in that context you deeply desire it to be analogous to a time/place/context where you WERE a Beta. — To have your opinion well-regarded and desired in this context isn't so much "secret kinging" as much as it is desiring respect… or at least that's my reading of it.

Longtime Lurker wrote:Or he could hit on the boss's wife. But then he wouldn't be a Delta.
I don't think that's in any way a winning situation; in fact, it seems like begging for a lose-lose:
— If your boss notices, he takes offence.
— If your wife notices, she takes offence.

But directly confronting him, especially in front of the wife, doesn't appear to be a bad option:
"Excuse me, but this is my wife, go get your own!"

Blogger Iron Knight February 19, 2020 1:16 PM  

'The most effective weapon against an alpha is a bigger alpha.'

Thats one useful advice.

Blogger David Ray Milton February 19, 2020 1:26 PM  

Only pair with a woman who is terrified of losing your love.

My wife, when we first started dating, made a rather innocent complementary comment on one occasion about a celebrity in front of me and my friends. I took insult and told her firmly, “Never say that again.”

Could that have been weak? Maybe. But she has never complimented a man in front of me again. And she has never even again uttered that particular celebrity’s name.

Who has the control in the relationship often determines how these little talks go.

Blogger cylindrical crown February 19, 2020 1:30 PM  

My boss's boss was known as a flirt. At an office party one time , he started to flirt with my wife while I was not around. She simply told him, "My husband doesn't take any prisoners." He got up, left, and never bothered her again at any parties. There were no repercussions at work.

Blogger Balkan Yankee February 19, 2020 1:30 PM  

@17: "it seems like begging for a lose-lose."

No begging is involved. Only turnabout. Which is fair play.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 19, 2020 1:39 PM  

'The most effective weapon against an alpha is a bigger alpha.'

Better be pretty damned sure, however -- jumping the chain of command has its own perils.

Blogger Barbarossa February 19, 2020 1:50 PM  

@16 Some dudes do just give off a vibe, don't they? There was an officer on my ship who was a similar oddball. His modus operandi was to wait until a fellow officer had his duty day and then just happen to show up at his house, "forgetting" he was trapped on the ship. What added fuel to the fire was that some of the wives and girlfriends enjoyed the attention of these *ahem* impromptu social calls.

Blogger grey February 19, 2020 2:19 PM  

If you don't understand hypergamy you will be angry at your wife for any perceived reactivity to said alpha. "doesn't she know I love her, I work hard for the family, we made a promise before God & the community etc." The Delta sees the wife not doing her job as he is doing his.

Blogger CarpeOro February 19, 2020 2:35 PM  

@Longtime
"No begging is involved. Only turnabout. Which is fair play."

YMMV, but that just appears to be demonstrating you fail to recognize boundaries also. Playing his game is playing his game, even if you beat him at it. Of course I say this knowing my wife wouldn't give in and my playing his game would make me look as weak as him in her eyes.

Blogger Azimus February 19, 2020 2:53 PM  

In the context of the story, Alpha is "Alpha of the set", the set being the place of employment. The boy's father could be an Alpha in other contexts, like Volunteer Firefighter Captain in the local community set. Or a lead singer in a rock band. Or hung like a toro bravo - whatever. Point is, mom probably married dad for some reason other than his ability to manage the general accounting department at corporate, which is only ever on display in the social hierarchy to woman for 4hrs a year at the Christmas party. So chill, take the wake up call that you are blessed with a hot wife, and then remind her why she married you.

Blogger RC February 19, 2020 3:03 PM  

@Newscaper wrote, "Better be pretty damned sure, however -- jumping the chain of command has its own perils."

There is great power in protecting your own without care of consequences.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 3:16 PM  

Meanoldbasterd: this is completely and utterly wrong.

Being a “delta” doesn’t mean being physically dominated by “alphas” as if we were wolves. It means being on a lower rung of the ladder as far as the human socio sexual hierarchy goes, ie not being a leader of men, not being the most powerful and popular guy around, and not being able to access the most attractive females.

I am a bravo or delta. I am also a good fighter. I cannot count the times I have had to “have a word” with some big headed prick who thought it was ok to hit on my girlfriend or wife.

A simple bit of physical reality works as well on the confident but physically incapable alpha as it does on anyone else.

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Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid February 19, 2020 3:34 PM  

grey wrote:If you don't understand hypergamy you will be angry at your wife for any perceived reactivity to said alpha.

There's really no need to advertise your wife's open door policy online.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 3:39 PM  

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Blogger RA February 19, 2020 3:39 PM  

I've always said that at any workplace, my top two priorities are my relationships with my boss and his boss. So if I'm going to think about talking to my boss's boss about my boss, I had better know where they stand in relation to each other. Because it may very well be that if your 2nd level takes your boss's side against you on an important enough issue, it might be time to find another job if you're not alpha enough to stand up to them.

In this instance, context is important: did your wife (or girlfriend) openly welcome the flirting or did she shoot it down? But what is actually more important: do your bosses respect you enough not to do that to you? Says a lot about where you stand with them.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 3:43 PM  

Third time lucky:

Unless you are talking about the alpha of a group of which you are a direct part (e.g job, circle or friends) where there might be direct financial or social repercussions, then the physically competent and intimidating delta has nothing to fear in terms of physically confronting and dominating the money/power/looks alpha for doing something they shouldn’t.

(Obviously not advisable if you are a delta in a Mexican drug cartel 😂)

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 3:46 PM  

Make the alpha compete in t physical realm where they are not alpha- preferably in public. Nothing better to defuse that alpha aura.

Blogger Solon February 19, 2020 3:46 PM  

As a recovering gamma who has somehow lucked his way into landing some VERY attractive partners in his time, I used to struggle with this A LOT. I've never had any delusions of being an alpha, but I used to think that other guys hitting on my woman was somehow "her fault," and I'd throw a mini temper tantrum because of it.

Lost a lot of girlfriends that way, and didn't even realize that I was the one being the asshole. Lost my best friend in high school for a bit doing that, he "stole my girl" (not: "I pushed my girl away into the arms of my charming best friend"). She later left him, and afterward, we both realized what idiots we had been for throwing away our friendship over a woman, and we still laugh about it to this day.

My wife is very attractive, she works on campus of a major university, and she tells me about the 18 year old guys hitting on her even though she's almost 30.

We just laugh about it together.

I'm no alpha, or even a beta. I'm not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. I think it all comes down to trust. I trust her to shut down any advances from other men, and she knows it, and she also knows, even if subconsciously, that I could have a new girl in a week if I so chose, but she trusts me not to sniff around, and so I refuse to betray that trust.

When dudes hit on her at the bar if I'm off getting a drink, I take it as a compliment these days, as if they're saying to me "you've made a fine selection of mate." I dont know where that falls on the SSH, and I dont care.

It saddens me that there is so little trust for one another these days. Trust and faith go hand-in-hand, and one of the biggest losses from the decline of Christianity is the loss of trust. Everyone is just floating adrift with no Lighthouse to guide them Home, of course you're going to hunker down in a storm and look out for number one when you dont know where you're going.

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Blogger DJ | AMDG February 19, 2020 3:49 PM  

"Unless of are talking the alpha in a physical context, the physically competent and intimidating delta has nothing to fear from confronting the money/power/looks alpha in a physical way."

I'm not so sure. It seems to me the only reason one might physically confront another is if the first was feeling in fact threatened. I can't ever see how a guy who physically confronts another for "hitting on" his wife could ever end up looking like he was in the right, or come out on top. Now, if the flirting became aggressive, well yeah. Inserting oneself in between is a necessity with an aggressive male such as that, but otherwise I can think of a half dozen more productive and relationship enhancing ways to deal with a simple flirt.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 19, 2020 4:00 PM  

Longtime Lurker wrote:@17: "it seems like begging for a lose-lose."
No begging is involved. Only turnabout. Which is fair play.

"Begging for a lose-lose" is exactly "temping fate", it might be 'turnabout' but you're an idiot to put yourself in that situation.
Perhaps you should take note of what Solon is saying—
Solon wrote:I think it all comes down to trust. I trust her to shut down any advances from other men, and she knows it, and she also knows, even if subconsciously, that I could have a new girl in a week if I so chose, but she trusts me not to sniff around, and so I refuse to betray that trust.
[…]
It saddens me that there is so little trust for one another these days. Trust and faith go hand-in-hand, and one of the biggest losses from the decline of Christianity is the loss of trust. Everyone is just floating adrift with no Lighthouse to guide them Home, of course you're going to hunker down in a storm and look out for number one when you dont know where you're going.

Your (Longtime Lurker) advice is to actively undermine the trust that your wife has in you, to actively undermine the trust your boss has in you, and the best scenario is "nothing happens" — on the other hand there's a lot of bad scenarios: screwing things up with your wife, screwing things up with your boss, getting your boss's wife interested in you… Remember Joseph and Potiphar's wife? Yeah, that's the "good outcome" the bad outcome would have happened if he'd actually succumbed to her advances.

Blogger Laconic February 19, 2020 4:12 PM  

@guy. Same dude. I could take most alphas that have rapie eyes on my wife... They know it too,and don't dare to speak to her haha
Shit, half of them have these big old fat bellies anyways
Great role models guys...

Blogger Balkan Yankee February 19, 2020 4:13 PM  

@38: Who exactly is tempting fate in this scenario? The boss? the wife? Or the hapless Delta?

All I said was that the Delta "could hit on the boss's wife. But then he wouldn't be a Delta."

It's okay to be Delta.

Blogger brbrophy February 19, 2020 4:21 PM  

My brother's an alpha. He has no regard for boundaries. To him almost everything is up for grabs, including other people's girlfriends, unclaimed possessions, and people's personal space, never really wives. Although none of his friends are married. In high school I had to hide my clothes in a suitcase because he would always take them and wear them immediately after they were washed.
Is this lack of respect for boundaries an alpha trait? In the case of this mentioned delta, could seeking the help from the alpha's bravos work?

Blogger Ransom Smith February 19, 2020 4:27 PM  

At this stage in my life I went full Mike Pence in my behavior towards women who are not my wife.
Also known as the Billy Graham rule.
Follow it rigidly and never deviate.
It'll save you, and also infuriate women who aren't your wife. Which is just a hilarious bonus.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 19, 2020 4:29 PM  

So how much to read into this story about Spielberg's adopted [mixed] daughter?

https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/405226/steven-spielberg-daughter-porn-star-erotic-dancer/

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel February 19, 2020 4:41 PM  

"My mother was always a very attractive woman and she was married to my father, a delta. Alpha men were always hitting on her, including my father's boss at a Christmas party that later devolved into a huge argument when we all returned home."

How does he know his boss was an alpha and not just a garden variety asshole with a snootful? I'm no alpha, but if I had a boss hit on my wife and occupational dependency prevented me from an open confrontation, you bet I'd find a way to get even WITH him.

Going after the wife is stupid, especially if she was faithful, because she was no doubt made incredibly uncomfortable by these overtures, which she no doubt would endure with a screwed-on smile so as to not endanger her husband's employment, which is the reverse of what should be with him protecting HER.

Of course no child should be within earshot of parents' arguments, especially about matters like this.

Blogger The Cooler February 19, 2020 4:54 PM  

As many as 1 in 3 children may not sired by the man the mother claims to be the father...

Keep your game tight, y'all.

Blogger Renbo February 19, 2020 4:57 PM  

My experience in a professional setting are people that approach the employee and attempt to compliment them on the date attracted. Such an overt blunder seems unusual, and in a similar circumstance I would likely opt for a confrontation with the offender out of the view of the public.

Blogger Nate February 19, 2020 5:18 PM  

david ray milton... all you did was show your wife that you're an insecure little pussy.

Blogger Noah B. February 19, 2020 5:30 PM  

"At this stage in my life I went full Mike Pence in my behavior towards women who are not my wife."

I also think that's a wise policy toward women who aren't family. So little to gain and so much to lose.

Blogger Subnif. February 19, 2020 5:45 PM  

A somewhat related Question is Dracula in Bram Stroker's book an alpha or a gamma.

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Blogger Balkan Yankee February 19, 2020 5:54 PM  

@50: Dracula is a metaphor for the psychopath.

Blogger Akulkis February 19, 2020 5:55 PM  

Dracula isn't about SSH, it's about Borderline Personality Disorder.

Blogger Akuma February 19, 2020 5:59 PM  

The Boss isnt Alpha. If he was hed have not allowed Women at the Party. It would have been a male only function. Also the Alpha shouldnt be hitting on others wifes. See Matthew 5:28.

Not only that, but we never hear how the wife reacted. If she flirted back shes not the Deltas wife. If she told the scumbag to piss off thats a different story.

Also, who do you complain too if the Bosses Boss is a Woman? This is increasingly common in companies.

"As many as 1 in 3 children may not sired by the man the mother claims to be the father...

Keep your game tight, y'all."

Game is band aid solution to Feminism. I have yet to see a PUA successfully game a Psychiatrist or Judge. With Women and Gammas populating every level of the Hierarchy theres no way to have Game without a final solution to the cancer.

Blogger Servant February 19, 2020 6:04 PM  

Your response interests me because my brothers wife always fawns over football players. Publicly and habitually praising other men's attractiveness is disgusting and whorish behavior in this context. He has dealt with this behavior, because it's stopped and without anyone seeing because I don't know what was done, as is right and proper.

Never say that again does strike me as cringey. What is the proper response?

Blogger RedJack February 19, 2020 6:11 PM  

Having see this play out, I would not recommend going to the boss's boss.

Nothing gets an Alpha mad like jumping around the chain of command. In today's world, that is a sure fire way to get bounced out.

Better path is the next time, have the wife cut the alpha down a bit. Wounds the alpha, ends the advance, and signals that the lady is attached to her mate. However, Game being what it is, that doesn't happen.

Best case is to know your rank and marry accordingly.

Blogger Servant February 19, 2020 6:13 PM  

Bram Stoker's Dracula was pretty explicitly named as impotent I'm the book, and compensated by predating young females. His genteel manners were a mask for a bestial spirit that would rage and tantrum when flustered.

Did you read it?

Blogger VFM #7634 February 19, 2020 6:25 PM  

Best case is to know your rank and marry accordingly.

It's not uncommon for deltas to end up with attractive women in environments where most men are gamma, omega, or lambda.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 6:26 PM  

Simple- punch alpha for flirting with your wife.

He’s an alpha in terms of women wanting him and being a leader among men in some area of life.

He’s most likely not an alpha in a fight with a delta who makes fighting a major skill set.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 19, 2020 6:29 PM  

Now I understand why I see a lot of average Joes out there paired up with hamplanets.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 6:34 PM  

You don’t have to hurt someone to let them know you have seen what they are doing and would like them to stop, while showing that you will back it up physically if necessary.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 6:36 PM  

I had one guy pat a girlfriend on the bum while I was there. He knew I saw. I don’t look physically intimidating but he was intimidated when I dealt with it physically and he ran away. I didn’t hurt him, but did scare him.

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 6:37 PM  

I don’t know if that’s an alpha. Isn’t it just an asshole?

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 6:38 PM  

I agree. I don’t think this action is particularly alpha.

Blogger bodenlose Schweinerei February 19, 2020 6:39 PM  

OT - Huff's response is great:

https://www.espn.co.uk/mlb/story/_/id/28727115/giants-exclude-aubrey-huff-2010-world-series-reunion-citing-unacceptable-tweets

Blogger Guy B February 19, 2020 6:44 PM  

Alphas are not alphas in every area of life. Just take him outside his comfort zone and deal with it. We aren’t dogs where the pack is going to tear you to bits if you physically confront the alpha

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 19, 2020 6:46 PM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:Now I understand why I see a lot of average Joes out there paired up with hamplanets.
There was a song about that.
If you wanna be happy for the rest of your life
Never make a pretty woman your wife
So for my personal point of view
Get an ugly girl to marry you

She can lose fat, but she can't lose ugly.

Blogger Akulkis February 19, 2020 6:47 PM  

Yes.

And that's all consistent with BPD.

BPD's have a very high rate of substance abuse problems.
Substance abuse ==> CNS damage => impotence.

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/07/on-literary-propaganda-and-sucker.html#c5518651666546469022

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/01/choose-wisely.html

http://voxday.blogspot.com/2020/01/the-american-beat-queen.html

Blogger Scuzzaman February 19, 2020 6:56 PM  

"The Delta sees the wife not doing her job as he is doing his."

OK, that hit a sore spot.

Thanks for the insight.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 19, 2020 7:03 PM  

Interesting developing concept here of what a "real" alpha does or should not do. That is, a real alpha is not going to hit on someone's wife, right?
I don't think the desire to maintain civiliation, or destroy it - or even if one is self-centered or callous - makes as much of a difference in the SSH. There are probably plenty of alphas out there who never openly hit on a married woman.
Then there are those who would make any married woman a side squeeze. Even if married to a friend.
I think the media went out of their way to associate alpha with "asshole" automatically. How many examples are there of guys who act like assholes because they want to "be alpha"? And a natural alpha - sigmas more likely - will see right through that crap. Heck on the job my dad was a total bravo and he destroyed the careers of fake alphas who alpha'ed their way into management positions. It was easy: everybody hated them. Likely for lack of real leadership qualities. Probably the biggest train wrecks are gammas trying to be alpha, but acting on what the gamma thinks the alpha is and how an alpha acts.
In the meantime, bringing a woman to a party is a problem an omega never has. Or is that two problems he never has? XD

Blogger Weouro February 19, 2020 7:23 PM  

Angry jerk alphas are not that common in my experience. To be alpha you have to be tough as nails and right most of the time. That's usually who ends up running the hierarchy.

Blogger Shane Bradman February 19, 2020 7:29 PM  

I don't think you understand the alpha mindset. Alphas hit on women. It's natural for the alpha to hit on any attractive woman. Obviously, nobody should hit on anybody's wives, but t h at doesn't remove the alpha temptation.

Blogger A guy in a dusty attic February 19, 2020 7:31 PM  

Anyone who starts hitting on a man's wife (especially after she has had kids) is greasy.

Blogger James Dixon February 19, 2020 7:55 PM  

> The most effective weapon against an alpha is a bigger alpha.

I don't think it would ever make it that far even for most of the delta's I've known. Most of them would tell him to back off or else. But then I come from a redneck blue collar background.

> You go at the guy and back him off, if it becomes a problem. Even if he's your boss, she is your wife. Better to find a new job than a new wife.

Absolutely.

> Better be pretty damned sure, however -- jumping the chain of command has its own perils.

If that's the route you choose to take, make it clear to his boss that if he doesn't deal with it, you will.


> I can't ever see how a guy who physically confronts another for "hitting on" his wife could ever end up looking like he was in the right, or come out on top.

Then no one is ever going to be able to explain it to you. But everyone else at the party will get it.

> My brother's an alpha. He has no regard for boundaries. To him almost everything is up for grabs, including other people's girlfriends, unclaimed possessions,

I'm forced to question your assessment.

> He’s most likely not an alpha in a fight with a delta who makes fighting a major skill set.

It doesn't matter whether he is or not. There are lines you don't cross without paying a penalty.

> That is, a real alpha is not going to hit on someone's wife, right?

Not in public in front of the husband, no. At least not if they know what they're doing. There are too many ways for it to go south and destroy your position. In private is another matter entirely.

Blogger VD February 19, 2020 7:57 PM  

As many as 1 in 3 children may not sired by the man the mother claims to be the father.

That's complete nonsense. No genetic study anywhere, not even in Africa, backs that up.

Interesting developing concept here of what a "real" alpha does or should not do. That is, a real alpha is not going to hit on someone's wife, right?

That's retarded. Alphas will absolutely hit on someone's wife. There is no moral component to the SSH. Indeed, the concept of a "real alpha" based on values of one sort or another observably tends to be Delta thinking.

Blogger VD February 19, 2020 7:59 PM  

It's bad enough to post off-topic. It's worse to post an off-topic link to which everyone is already linking. But it's even worse to post an off-topic link to which everyone is already linking THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN POSTED IN THIS THREAD.

FFS, stop "helping".

Blogger Zaklog the Great February 19, 2020 8:27 PM  

@75 My apologies, sir. I had not been reading all the comments and had not noticed. I will keep a better eye out in the future.

Blogger Nate February 19, 2020 8:27 PM  

jesus.. I literally flirt with every woman I meet or talk to. I am incapable of communicating with women without flirting with them. just stop people. stop. however you think the world works.. you're wrong. alphas dont think of your wife as your wife. all girls are their girls. that's how it works.

Blogger DannyDanger February 19, 2020 8:48 PM  

Interesting thread.
As a husband who is not an alpha but happens to have a hot wife, I have definitely seen the SSH play out in real life when around alpha friends.
A few things I noticed:
1) It's not personal with the alphas. It's all instinct. They naturally have a way of charming women and will do so regardless of the environment.
2) I 100% agree with the comments about trusting your wife and understanding that other men find her attractive just as you do. Consider it a compliment.
3) Never have I ever seen an issue that required physical confrontation or even a discussion. Sometimes a simple reminder like interrupting a conversation and saying "hey man, let's go grab another beer" will do the trick. They will get the hint and appreciate you for the non-awkward confrontation.
4) If you simply allow your wife to be herself and enjoy the fact that she's "still got it" while trusting her completely, it tends to have beneficial results at the end of the day.
Cheers!

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) February 19, 2020 8:49 PM  

5. Longtime Lurker February 19, 2020 12:35 PM
Or he could hit on the boss's wife.



not a good idea, unless you're prepared to go in on a wife swap or group sex deal.

bluffing on bets you can't afford to lose will eventually get you crashed and burned.

besides, you don't win the AMOG game by, you know, failing to confront the guy who is trying to AMOG you.

that's about as NOT-Alpha as you can get.

Blogger David Ray Milton February 19, 2020 9:03 PM  

Ha! Good burn... but you should work up to that. Kind of leaves you nowhere to go.

Blogger Laconic February 19, 2020 9:13 PM  

@mate control yourself bro haha

Where do u even live that every single woman is even mildly attractive? Or do u flirt with ugly old hags too??

Blogger David Ray Milton February 19, 2020 9:20 PM  

@nate

You’re Methodist... we all know you’re talking about flirting with dudes...

Blogger ScottC February 19, 2020 9:25 PM  

She can control it by dressing modestly and socializing with other women. (God forbid that a woman live within traditional boundaries.)

This culture where we let women roam wild and free but control the behavior of men like gangbusters (in this case, the guy's boss) is like an inverted Saudi Arabia.

Blogger Sargent.matrim February 19, 2020 9:29 PM  

Exactly. I have followed it for most of my Christian life, and for all of my years of marriage and ministry in the church.

My wife adores that I follow this rule.

Good women respect it. And keep the correct distance.

And bad women are infuriated by it. That in itself is a bonus as you say. I laugh whenever feminists attack me for following this rule.

I dont care what any woman thinks, except my wife. And she is no feminist.

Blogger Latigo3 February 19, 2020 9:38 PM  

Obviously the Delta should not have argued with his wife. If his wife was faithful, then the boss should have been confronted in public. If the wife was being flirtatious, he should never have married her or not taken her. Over the years, before I got married, I went out with alot of women and the only one that was flirtatious I eventually took care of. I was only 18-19 and she comes up to me one day and says, "she wanted to be friends" so she could go on a date with another dude. We didn't talk for about a month and she comes to me and says she was ready to continue our relationship, I told her, "I'm not ready and I do not want to get back together". It freaked her out and she never really recovered, years later after I was married she still tried to get in touch with me. I tell any guy that is freaked out over a woman, "move on, there are plenty of women out there". Godly or ungodly, whatever you are looking for is out there.

Blogger Gulo Gulo February 19, 2020 9:48 PM  

@77
Bingo

Blogger VFM #7634 February 19, 2020 9:54 PM  

A few things I noticed:
1) It's not personal with the alphas. It's all instinct. They naturally have a way of charming women and will do so regardless of the environment.


Right. If the woman finds the alpha attractive, flirting will happen automatically if the alpha talks to her, and he won't necessarily be meaning anything by it either. Because low deltas and gammas typically have to be try-hard when flirting, especially if they're crushing on the girl, they think the alpha is being deliberate and malicious about it. Hence the white-knightery and "Show him you're alpha by punching him on the nose!" advice.

Blogger The Cooler February 19, 2020 10:07 PM  

That's complete nonsense. No genetic study anywhere, not even in Africa, backs that up.

30% is likely high. The problems are, 1.) who is willing to participate is any such study; and, 2.) disclosure.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2212066116300047

Call it 10%.

Blogger Gulo Gulo February 19, 2020 10:08 PM  

I'm naturally charming and funny. Its enabled me to crush it in sales. Because of this, women - married and unmarried- are attracted to me. They can no more not be turned on than I can no more stop being charming. In the case of both of us its part of our DNA. I've had a number of opportunities where "taken" women have made it quite clear that they're open to me making a move on them. Some covert and on the sly and some not so much. As a married man I've always remained faithful however, the temptations do exist.

Blogger Nate February 19, 2020 10:30 PM  

sugartits... shhh. posing doesn't suit you.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 19, 2020 10:48 PM  

bodenlose Schweinerei wrote:OT - Huff's response is great:

https://www.espn.co.uk/mlb/story/_/id/28727115/giants-exclude-aubrey-huff-2010-world-series-reunion-citing-unacceptable-tweets


Huff is Alpha AF

Blogger The Cooler February 19, 2020 10:56 PM  

Y'all really are comical sometimes when it comes to the SSH stuff.

While it seems to diminish the further down the hierarchy one gets, there's a fair amount of variance in personality types within the SSH.

Both the Alpha you like and the Alpha you don't are gonna flirt with your lady.

Blogger Unknown February 20, 2020 12:15 AM  

of the wooorrrlld...

Blogger Bibliotheca Servare February 20, 2020 12:42 AM  

@Laconic

Risking Nate's wrath here, but my guess is that the answer is "yes". Because an Alpha can flirt with someone without actually intending/desiring to sleep with -or even being especially attracted to- that person. It's not even deliberate, it's like breathing.

To all the guys saying Alphas don't try to sleep with the wives of other men, what are you talking about? If that were somehow a prerequisite for Alpha-ness, then Trump isn't an Alpha. And he most certainly is.

Alpha does not equal "Nice". Indeed, often far from it. A society of Alphas would be hellish, before it violently ceased to exist. Don't make the mistake of linking "powerful" with "noble" or "upright" in your mind.

Blogger David Ray Milton February 20, 2020 12:55 AM  

Sugartits? Damn, you are gay.

Blogger AbnEng February 20, 2020 2:15 AM  

Why are some societies able to better channel Alpha into productive tracks, while others are not? The Roman Republic was a good example of a society that harnessed the Alpha’s until they were almost Bravo’s with the Republic itself being the Alpha. Seems like sleeping with subordinates’ wives was a no-no until maybe 100 B.C. Rich guys would build public baths, commission public art, host huge banquets, etc. to show Alpha-ness.

Now Alpha’s spend $50 million on a balloon dog, or $250k on a hundred-year-old bottle of vinegar that was a really great bottle of wine fifty years ago, but nobody drank it then and now it is expensive trash.

By 100 A.D. the emperor was banging senator’s wives because he could.

Is there a way to get Alpha’s to worry more about the business / city / tribe / unit / nation than they worry about impressing other Alpha’s with stupid shit?

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 2:52 AM  

I think people are confusing naturally charismatic and/or powerful guys being charming and flirtatious with women “alphas gonna alpha” (expected), with guys genuinely trying to sleep with a wife or girlfriend (not acceptable).

It is perfectly ok, and in fact sensible, to act in the second case in order to make the guy stop. Not acting is an acceptance of the situation. It isn’t white knighting to prevent someone from trying to have sex with your wife. It is normal.

Blogger Kiwi February 20, 2020 3:05 AM  

The Alpha is taking the opportunity because he can, which is why I have no idea why a woman would want a delta if she could go up the hierarchy. If this woman was attractive then was she after the deltas money, or was he a gamma and not a delta. Being an asshole sounds gamma.

The best way to keep an Alpha away from your lady is to make sure you don't take her unless HIS lady is there, and pls he has a lady or ladies.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) February 20, 2020 3:17 AM  

77. Nate February 19, 2020 8:27 PM
just stop people. stop. however you think the world works.. you're wrong. alphas dont think of your wife as your wife. all girls are their girls. that's how it works.


question:
since when did doing "what feels good" become the Godly, scriptural or honorable behavior?

and i will remind you what this post is about;
"how NOT to respect your deltas"

whether you mean anything by it or not, is it a good idea for you to be embarrassing your lower rank associates in front of their wives?

i mean, we're assuming here that these are your "friends" or at least workaday associates.

it's not that there aren't things for the Deltas / whathaveyou of the world to learn in this situation, but don't pretend that there isn't anything for the Alpha to be made aware of as well.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( no need to be racist, Ratchets can Karen better than anybody ) February 20, 2020 3:23 AM  

@$$hole Consulting goes all in on the Boomers

http://captaincapitalism.blogspot.com/2020/02/never-trust-anybody-over-30.html

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2020 3:50 AM  

> jesus.. I literally flirt with every woman I meet or talk to. I am incapable of communicating with women without flirting with them. just stop people.

Flirting does not equal hitting on, Nate. From the description, we're talking about two completely different behaviors here.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 3:50 AM  

Nobody is alpha in every area of life. Sure your boss is in a higher position in the hierarchy when it comes to your job. But he certainly isn’t in ever area of life.

There isn’t a mythical “always alpha” who always wins at everything, always gets the best girls, always has people running around doing what he says and massaging his ego.

Women like men for a variety of reasons.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 3:53 AM  

Correct, there are guys who are great at talking to women and who do so at every opportunity.

That is a different thing from actively trying to get someone’s wife into bed while they are present. Doing that will provoke a response.

I don’t think it is particularly alpha because it isn’t controlling t he group dynamic. It is demanding confrontation which (if you are the out of shape boss) you will lose.

Blogger VD February 20, 2020 4:51 AM  

"hitting on her at the Christmas Party" = flirting.

Don't sperg, gentlemen.

Blogger Scuzzaman February 20, 2020 5:53 AM  

Yesterday an Aussie guy burned himself his three kids and estranged wife to death, using petrol.

Messing with another mans woman is playing with fire. Love makes people do crazy shit.

Save yourself and others you care for a world of hurt and no matter your position in the SSH, remember this:

Don’t be a dick.

The golden rule is a pretty good guide for all things but especially pertinent here.

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2020 6:45 AM  

I can only conclude there must be regional and economic differences, Vox.

Blogger Vaughan Williams February 20, 2020 7:18 AM  

@96 Yes, there is a way to reign alphas in. For Christians, it starts with according the Old Testament the same respect that Jesus himself did. Without the Old Testament, too many things in the New Testament are undefined enough that the pulpit parrots redefine them to whatever they fancy.

Blogger Nate February 20, 2020 7:33 AM  

it's not regional differences. It's the same behavior described by different men. an insecure man says "he hit on my wife". a secure man says "he flirts with all the ladies."

dude described it the way he did because he felt attacked.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 7:34 AM  

I think it depends on the intention and intensity of the flirting.

Chatty charming guy taking to attractive wife is to be expected and tolerated or defused lightly.

Prick obviously trying to sleep with wife is not ok.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 8:38 AM  

If you say “he flirts with all the ladies” about a guy who is obviously interested in sex with your wife and trying to make it happen while you are there, then that isn’t an example of being secure.

It is an example of being weak, of accepting your subservient position, and of losing.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly February 20, 2020 9:07 AM  

"Simple- punch alpha for flirting with your wife. He’s most likely not an alpha in a fight with a delta who makes fighting a major skill set."

Then the cheerleaders will totally want to bang you when they see you were the secret king all along.

This blog has a long history of bringing men up and making them into better versions of themselves. Don't trash that history with crap advice dripping with your own secret (and unrealized) fantasies.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly February 20, 2020 9:26 AM  

@nate

Never even utter again davy milton's name!

Blogger Nate February 20, 2020 9:32 AM  

"If you say “he flirts with all the ladies” about a guy who is obviously interested in sex with your wife and trying to make it happen while you are there, then that isn’t an example of being secure."

/facepalm

people... turning into a mirrored reflection of the idiot sjws is not the best strategy. Stop emoting. Stop sperging. Stop posing.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The fact that it sounded good in your head doesn't make it accurate.

Blogger Nate February 20, 2020 9:32 AM  

"Don't trash that history with crap advice dripping with your own secret (and unrealized) fantasies."

preach preacher.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 9:35 AM  

Speak for yourself.

It is simply bad advice to accept someone trying to seduce your wife when you are present, as some here have suggested.

I haven’t commented on the advice offered by the author- it might well work in a context where it a boss chasing your wife.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 9:49 AM  

I’m honestly shocked that people think it is ok to let other men hit on their wives.

Being trained to think it is ok doesn’t seem like a good strategy for life.

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 9:55 AM  

I’m honestly shocked that people think it is ok to let other men hit on their wives.

Being trained to think it is ok doesn’t seem like a good strategy for life.

Blogger Scuzzaman February 20, 2020 11:01 AM  

Guy B / Nate

Right now we don’t know which it actually was, except Vox’ statement that they’re the same thing.

Apropos, I’ve flirted with attractive women with no intention whatsoever on either side to ever do anything about it. Nonetheless everyone knows what those signals mean. Part of what they mean is that even good men do stupid and evil things and especially so in front of a pretty woman.

Years ago a “friend” was hitting on my wife. Not in my presence, she told me about it afterwards. This wasn’t flirting in any innocent sense, he openly propositioned her. She asked me afterwards what to do (after turning him down, of course). I told her well firstly you have to realise he’s not your friend. He’d happily destroy everything we’ve built - the love, trust, children, home, etc - for the sake of a briefly novel bit of slippery friction. So you tell him never to come here again, never to contact you again, you make it very plain you absolutely mean it, and you delete every connection to him and that is that.

Or, we can separate right now.

Because he sure as shit is not MY friend and I am not having any kind of association with him, even “indirectly “.

She chose option A. I have to admit that part of what I love about her is not merely that she seeks my counsel - she actually takes it. I pray you all will have such a blessing.

Blogger Laconic February 20, 2020 11:57 AM  

Right, 100% agree...don't we make fun of cucks here?

Blogger Laconic February 20, 2020 12:05 PM  

Its not about obtaining a heram dude. Call me a gamma, idgaf, someone aggressively going after our wives and not respecting her denial is fucking asking for it. Sounds like more gamma behavior to me, just the type that made it to the top in the absence of true alphas

Blogger Guy B February 20, 2020 12:17 PM  

I like this post.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2020 12:49 PM  

Guy B wrote:I’m honestly shocked that people think it is ok to let other men hit on their wives.
I think there is a difference between flirting and hitting on.

If you're a natural Alpha, I don't think you have any other way to interact with women besides flirting.

Blogger Daniel February 20, 2020 1:16 PM  

Here's how not to respect your lambdas.

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2020 1:28 PM  

> it's not regional differences. It's the same behavior described by different men. an insecure man says "he hit on my wife". a secure man says "he flirts with all the ladies."

OK, I hadn't considered it from that direction. That analysis is supported by their having an argument over the matter later.

I don't buy that there always the same thing though. I've known too many jerks in my life who don't recognize boundaries until they're enforced by two by fours.

I do know that around here, regardless of which it is, that behavior in public can be a quick shortcut to the emergency room or worse. As was noted earlier: "Messing with another mans woman is playing with fire."

> I think there is a difference between flirting and hitting on.

Vox has made his statement. Let sleeping dogs lie.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly February 20, 2020 1:30 PM  

Alright cuz, you've somehow gotten my sympathy. There is a world of separation between "accepting someone trying to seduce yer wife" and "punching the alpha" with yer secret trained fighter skills.

As alluded to at the very beginning, it is a tough spot for the delta. But there are things you can do...go up and get in the conversation with wife and alpha. Walk in and wrap and arm around her waist and be pleasant while you talk, she's yer wife right? Hell, go take her for a dance if its a party and you defuse the situation and get her focus back on you while she still is validated knowing she's attractive...

If it is a recurring thing (as the original post indicated), you have a different set of actions that you can enact. Not involving arguing with the wife.

The "punch the jock" strategy doesn't work outside the movies cuz. Don't put that out there as wise counsel for those that read here and are actually trying to better themselves.

Blogger Daniel February 20, 2020 1:33 PM  

Whew lad. Deltas really need to stop worrying and get back to work. There is no need to prove the inherent confusion you have over the SSH. QED

Blogger CostelloM February 20, 2020 1:36 PM  

Gosh who'd have thought that the advice to "find a nice girl and get married" wouldn't work for a delta in today's US legal environment and such advice wouldn't work? That guy is likely the seed of one of those alphas and not his "father". No she won't wait for the complaint to be filed to the next level of alpha before she cucks the guy because women are rewarded financially for doing so at worst and not found out at best. Its the deltas fault that she found the alpha more attractive according to the US legal system. Unless you're a super alpha with mojo falling out of your pockets getting married to an American woman is literally a guarantee you will be raising and/or paying for another mans seed. I don't recall that being a biblical mandate for that so don't do it. Don't do it and don't believe the ridiculous levels of gaslighting you see with liars telling you that you should not believe your own eyes or that fact that you're gambling against the house with +60% or more odds. If you must get married and you aren't Donald Trump go abroad. There is no reason you should constantly tempt your wife to run out on you and give her legal cover and cash and prizes for doing so.

Blogger Linus February 20, 2020 1:56 PM  

The comments about letting another man hit on your wife are missing the point. For a lot of Alphas, what you call "hitting on" or "flirting with", they call "talking to". This is equally or more true when it comes to women's perception. An attractive woman is predisposed to describe or characterize "talking to" as "flirting with". That doesn't make it so.

Blogger Greg Hunt February 20, 2020 2:21 PM  

Woman was talking to me early on about how cute her doctor was and how he was single and how much they'd chat.

I told her she should ask him out and see how things go.

She replied with something like, "You don't get jealous, do you".

Sometimes, a woman relating a story about another man is just a test to gauge your reaction. Getting upset by it is absolute failure.

She won't cheat on you if she thinks you're the better man.

Blogger HoosierHillbilly February 20, 2020 3:01 PM  

@127. Go off and weep alone in the dark. Vfm my ass.

Blogger sammibandit February 20, 2020 4:51 PM  

Its not about obtaining a heram dude. Call me a gamma, idgaf, someone aggressively going after our wives and not respecting her denial is fucking asking for it. Sounds like more gamma behavior to me, just the type that made it to the top in the absence of true alphas

Making a scene is messy. Directly involving an alpha in your scene is downright stupid. They don't like surprises, especially around other people, and because they're petty you will feel pain. You will be rightfully corrected and no one but your simp brahs will back you.

On another note, do you really think the WAGs would be impressed by that show? I can picture their cringing faces and hunched body language right now. You can embarass yourself all you like but the second you draw other people into it you are making your situation worse. And if the womenfolk see it then everyone will hear about it lickety split.

Blogger James Dixon February 20, 2020 5:19 PM  

> The "punch the jock" strategy doesn't work outside the movies cuz.

Oh, it still works fine. I've known a couple of people who used it. There are some negative repercussions though.

> For a lot of Alphas, what you call "hitting on" or "flirting with", they call "talking to".

That was Nate's, and I believe Vox's, point.

Blogger Laconic February 20, 2020 7:36 PM  

Downright stupid, rightfully corrected, WAG, show, cringe, embarrass.other people..womanfolk...feel pain....
What the hell are you talking about.

Molon lave

I really don't get it..do any ranks below alpha = cuck here??
Ill challenge any alpha (especially) when it comes to my lady..I think anyone who wouldn't is a timid soyboy
My alphas know its in their best interest to keep me around and not cross that line.....

Blogger CostelloM February 21, 2020 12:07 AM  

@130 which part is factually incorrect? Sorry but I'm married and very happy abroad. Best move I ever made.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 21, 2020 10:55 AM  

HoosierHillbilly wrote:The "punch the jock" strategy doesn't work outside the movies cuz. Don't put that out there as wise counsel for those that read here and are actually trying to better themselves.
Sometimes the war isn't about the battle.
There are a lot of women who would appreciate their man physically fighting for them, even if they lost the physical confrontation. This is to say, sometimes it's 'enough' that you show you're invested in the relationship… of course, sometimes it's not enough.

Blogger brbrophy February 22, 2020 11:22 AM  

@James Dixon

>> My brother's an alpha. He has no regard for boundaries. To him almost everything is up for grabs, including other people's girlfriends, unclaimed possessions,

"I'm forced to question your assessment."

It's fair to question my assessment. But if I told you the number of women he's been sexually active with, you'd probably wonder why his penis hadn't fallen off.

Blogger daedal February 23, 2020 7:32 PM  

All this confusion around the 'best way to handle this situation' and lamentations about alphas that alpha, is precisely why traditional society's segregate the sexes as far as practicality allows.

OP's mistake was taking the wife to the xmas party in the first place.

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