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Saturday, February 15, 2020

Nick Fuentes banned from YouTube

As expected, YouTube followed up its demonetization of Nick Fuentes with a banning of his channel:
My Youtube channel has been wrongly terminated today for an alleged violation of “hate speech” policy. This is the end result of a concerted effort by leftists, conservative inc gatekeepers, and silicon valley censors to silence my show and the movement it has inspired.
This is why we build our own platforms. But never forget that it's not our job to provide a home for everyone outside the mainstream. We will always help our friends and allies, but the enemies of our enemies are not necessarily either.

It will be interesting to see if Mr. Fuentes actually has the mettle his followers believe he does or if he will simply accept his banishment as meekly as the average conservative. I would tend to assume the latter, but perhaps he will exceed our expectations.

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93 Comments:

Blogger Ferdinand February 15, 2020 3:08 PM  

JF appearantly teamed up with antifa to get nick's channel nuked.

Blogger Red Bane February 15, 2020 3:14 PM  

Anyone who collabs with the infamous Sam Hyde is likely not going anywhere soon. I wonder if this tipped You-Know-Who Tube over the edge?

Could Mr Hyde find a home at UTV?

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 15, 2020 3:15 PM  

Imagine my shark

Blogger Dave February 15, 2020 3:19 PM  

There will be wailing in the dark and gnashing of teeth and shaking of fists. That's all.

Blogger Karen took the Kids February 15, 2020 3:25 PM  

If there was ever a time for Little Nicky to exceed our expectations, it's now.

Blogger Jill in StL February 15, 2020 3:31 PM  

Apparently, he ticked off JFG, that French guy from the evolution debate, because Nickels said "mean words" about him, so JFG is claiming that he worked in unison with Antifa to get Nickels deplatformed. JFG was bragging and laughing about it on his live-stream last night, called The Spoils of War. I'm neither a JFG nor a Nickels fan, but JFG just went to a zero as far as I am concerned, as I am not a believer in aligning with evil in order to seek revenge - I hope it bites him in his proverbial French arse very soon.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 15, 2020 3:31 PM  

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Blogger Ska_Boss February 15, 2020 3:52 PM  

Nick to YouTube: HOW DARE YOU!!!

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid February 15, 2020 3:56 PM  

Nick is going Bitchute/DLive.

Sam Hyde does indeed need a home.

Blogger GM February 15, 2020 3:57 PM  

He has said repeatedly on stream that he has been working on his own platform in preparation for this. We'll see.

Blogger LES February 15, 2020 3:58 PM  

Wikipedia was quick to note that.

Paul Craig Roberts gets it.

Blogger Don't Call Me Len February 15, 2020 4:06 PM  

I imagined your shark, Doktor, but I just ended up feeling dirty and tired.

Blogger Steb February 15, 2020 4:10 PM  

My money's on him surprising you

Blogger Constantin February 15, 2020 4:19 PM  

Hopefully this means he'll fade away. So tired of seeing people I follow treat him like some figure head of a new movement. He's just a kid who got a bit of fame and it got to his head.

Blogger jkmack February 15, 2020 4:29 PM  

Nick is on DLIVE, he was there just before Owen.

Blogger Ricky February 15, 2020 4:49 PM  

Now watch 90 percent of people on this site and other right leaning sites tear the guy down, 6 percent of people stay completely apathetic and 4 percent support him more because if he’s been kicked from YouTube then he’s clearly doing something effective and pissing off the Evil that runs the company. Pull together people, and stop chipping out anyone who is on the right but isn’t your exact flavour of ice-cream. It’s time to pick a side - Truth and Beauty or Them. Nick is on the side of Truth and Beauty. So are we. Support the people you want to see more of, send the guy an email of support, spread his work to your friends, support The Cause.

Blogger Unknownsailor February 15, 2020 4:56 PM  

Nick gets more views on DLive than he did on YouTube. All that YT offers any more is bigger viewer base, it has been surpassed technologically by every alternative.

Blogger mrpinks February 15, 2020 5:01 PM  

The members only chats have kept VDs streams on topic and shorter. Hopefully we dont see a return of NFs gamma trolls wailing and crying on the darkstream.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 15, 2020 5:04 PM  

JFG did it? Wow. I wouldn’t be surprised if Benji Shapiru was involved too.

Nicky shoulda been nicer to Owen.

Blogger Up from the pond February 15, 2020 5:08 PM  

In the last couple weeks he was shouting that he doesn't care about YouTube guidelines or keeping his channel. He was doing more racisms and meanisms than he usually does. He is a bad boy and got spanked.

But seriously, has he ever mentioned his father? He mentions other family members rather often. He also goes out of his way to insult men older than 21 in ways that seriously anger them, to the apparent delight of his fans. JF is his latest target. JF looked like he was about to cry when he complained that Nick wouldn't debate him civilly.

I put Nick in the Gamma category. His career will follow that trajectory. He will be good for whatever "Joker" the movie was good for. Some like Devon Stack say that was misleading disaffected youths and even blackwashing their political interests. We will see.

Blogger The Course of Empire February 15, 2020 5:13 PM  

Yes, he confirmed that again I believe Friday night- he says it may be ready by Monday.

Blogger zonnewind February 15, 2020 5:26 PM  

Good riddance, he attacked JF's family.

Blogger Seth S February 15, 2020 5:37 PM  

Anyone that turns to a 20 year old for political wisdom is not that bright.

Blogger Boomer55 February 15, 2020 5:41 PM  

@11
The argument is irrefutable. There is a coordinated effort to erase the European nations. But I think E. Michael Jones is right in pointing out that "white" is a rhetorical trap, and should not be used. This is why nationalists in places like Hungary are harder to counter, compared to "pan aryans," they are proud of being Hungarian and European without wanting to be in a United States of Europe.

European makes more sense because, for example, Indians are technically "caucasians" with dark skin for example.

Blogger sappbe February 15, 2020 5:42 PM  

Not that I have any personal interest in his success, or lack of it, but I hope he rages against the machine. Perseverance and dedication are admirable regardless of the the source. I had a phase around 20 years ago where I liked DMX (don't ask). According to that accomplished poet, "If it's fuck me nigga then you know it's fuck you." No better way to embody that than to keep on despite the deplatforming. He will likely lay down but it's a nice thought

Blogger Statix February 15, 2020 5:44 PM  

Nick has been preparing for this ban for a while now. He said he was actually expecting to have been banned last October. Apparently he has his own thing already set up and ready to go. He'll announce it on Monday. I assume he's going to be setting up his own website to do his shows on.

Blogger Statix February 15, 2020 5:48 PM  

People like you can't set aside your petty personal grievances and realize the more-or-less positive benefit of having people like Nick out there promoting Christian-American Nationalism. Maybe you don't like him, maybe you think he's ineffective or not a leader. But we can use all the help we can get to shift the public consciousness and the overton window.

Blogger PCA February 15, 2020 5:55 PM  

He's from QUEBEC as you can hear from his thick accent.

He's about as French as an American is a Brit.

Blogger VD February 15, 2020 6:02 PM  

Pull together people, and stop chipping out anyone who is on the right but isn’t your exact flavour of ice-cream.

Not only no, but HELL NO. I don't want anything to do with Little Nicky or his followers. I've been attacked more by them than by SJWs in the last year; even the SJWs have learned to keep their distance.

People like you can't set aside your petty personal grievances and realize the more-or-less positive benefit of having people like Nick out there promoting Christian-American Nationalism.

Petty personal grievances? If you want people to HELP you, then you cannot ATTACK them. I won't ever lift a finger for Little Nicky. I will not permit anyone I do not trust to stand beside me or at my back. I have learned from offering help to narcissistic snakes like Torba and Fuentes. I won't attack them unless attacked, but I definitely don't want anything to do with them.

Blogger Stilicho February 15, 2020 6:05 PM  

How is fuentes anything other than a non-jewish shapiru?

Blogger Statix February 15, 2020 6:05 PM  

Vox, I don't know if using the mobile site to comment makes my replies show up incorrectly. But I was replying to Constantin.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid February 15, 2020 6:11 PM  

Ricky wrote:It’s time to pick a side - Truth and Beauty or Them. Nick is on the side of Truth and Beauty.

Nick's problem is he is willing to bend to the powers of this world for "optics", and a man can only serve one master. You think VD's invitation to debate the hallofcost had no purpose? Nick is a coward who demonstrably values his self-interest over truth.

Blogger Unknown February 15, 2020 6:20 PM  

Forget about the content of his words. How can you get past his voice? Torture idea: Shapiru and Nickels podcasts on top of each other on an endless loop. Kill me now!

Blogger SmokeyJoe February 15, 2020 6:59 PM  

"Apparently, he ticked off JFG, that French guy from the evolution debate..."

Heh, no surprise there! The French...Always playing the faggot with someone else's arse!

Blogger jarheadljh February 15, 2020 6:59 PM  

Boomer55 wrote:@11

The argument is irrefutable. There is a coordinated effort to erase the European nations. But I think E. Michael Jones is right in pointing out that "white" is a rhetorical trap, and should not be used. This is why nationalists in places like Hungary are harder to counter, compared to "pan aryans," they are proud of being Hungarian and European without wanting to be in a United States of Europe.
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And I think that E Michael Jones is wrong, at least as far as the US is concerned. I've lived on both coasts - the Southeast and the West - crisscrossed flyover country, gone to college with a bunch of Yankees, and I can honestly tell you that in my experience "white" is a thing here that it absolutely is not in Europe. In the East you still have have ethnic enclaves like the Irish in Boston or Italians in NY/NJ, but the further West you go, the more mongrelized the entire population is. We all speak English, we eat the same foods on the same holidays, we go to the same mix of Protestant churches, we all sing along with whatever is on country/classic-rock radio - you get the idea. Maybe that is all a relatively recent development, but the deal is so. I mainly blame the immigration act of 1965 closing us off to new European immigration(and of course television), but we really have been largely homogenized. This of course does not apply to Hawaii or Southern California where white people are the visible minority wherever you go.

I expect Western Canada to be much the same from everything that I've seen thanks to the intertubewebs, though it's obvious that at bare minimum Quebec should have been split off decades ago. Not sure about Australia & New Zealand, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it organizing similarly.

We are descended of Europe, but we are no longer European. I'm fairly certain that stems from the type of person that goes to a colony versus the ones that elect to stay in the mother country. IS posterity American even a thing anymore? Or has it been diluted to the point that it has no real meaning? I have an English-surnamed ancestor born in 1820 that settled in my hometown in 1854 after hitting the Oregon trail from Ohio. My great grandmother came form Oklahoma during the dust bowl(there may be one plains-Indian from an unknown tribe in there, we're not sure and I'm not claiming it). On the other side I'm genuinely not even sure about the ancestral breakdown and this isn't even bothering to investigate my father's heritage who is also from Ohio but with a Germanic surname. I bring it up because this is not at all uncommon here.

The reason the grabblers could sell us on a Nation of Immigrants is because there really is something to it. What they missed is that it only seems to apply to white, black, latino, etc. Once the skin tone changes the mixing stops.

Blogger Nate73 February 15, 2020 7:01 PM  

It's a slow trickle of all the people I listen to out to alternative platforms. First it was Bitchute, now it's expanding out.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 February 15, 2020 7:04 PM  

I don't really like Fuentes but should he file for arbitration, I would cheer him on.

Blogger Statix February 15, 2020 7:05 PM  

@Rattlesnake_Kid

People who mock the term "optics" are clearly omegas who completely lack any understanding of persuasion. The number one rule of persuading the public is Pacing & Leading. I.e., buttering them up to get them on your side, and then gradually pulling them towards the direction you want. You don't just go full wignat mode on them with the JQ or race realism right out of the gate.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 15, 2020 7:06 PM  

@ statix
The mobile site sure works differently than the PC site. The reply shows up imnediately under the post you reply to, but gets shoved to the end in the PC view. Google showing everybody that they will eat sh*t if it's only free.

Blogger jeffinjapan February 15, 2020 7:09 PM  

“Nicky shoulda been nicer to Owen.” Seriously? The whole Nick/Owen debacle started over a nonchalant comment about appearing on Owen’s channel. And this caused Owen to go on one of his infamous 3 days rants about Nick, Nick’s mom, and the basement he allegedly lives in. This was the beginning of the end of my support for Owen. And just in case, I give zero shits about Nick but I hate that he was banned by the overlords of correct speech.

Blogger Ransom Smith February 15, 2020 7:10 PM  

Nick is on the side of Truth and Beauty.
He's definitely not on the side of truth.
And judging by his choice of company, his beauty standards are a little unusual.

Blogger jkmack February 15, 2020 7:13 PM  

All you guys talking about not doing x to Nicky, for the cause, are crazy. David Brock wrote attack pieces on Hillary, for the American Spectator, he got turned out by lollipops and fancy pants. I dont mind not attacking people that I find disgusting or stupid or what not, but the ones that can be bought, like Nicky, are a special breed of treachery that should be mocked, condemned, and avoided at all costs. Wilt Chamberlain opposes Nicky, but is the exact same type of snake, they are like two vultures fighting to peck the same republican carcass.

just get used to the fact that at least 80% and probably closer to 98% of people in the public eye, are going to be treacherous snakes trying to be players in a crooked game. It is people that step away from "The Game" and play their own game, as dictated by God, that should pique your interest.

Blogger Dole February 15, 2020 7:18 PM  

Good news, now Fuentes has nothing more important to do than debating Vox.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 15, 2020 7:32 PM  

Fuentes and his Groypers may be a flash in the pan, but they represent a certain movement:

https://www.menofthewest.net/?p=23518

I don't know if Fuentes is in this for the long game. And it doesn't matter. Nor does it matter if his brand fades and is replaced by a new one. It's like the Alt-Right brand. The name doesn't matter in the big picture.

I believe were seeing an evolution of religio-political thinking, and Fuentes' group is the most notable for holding onto that kernel, that germ of what I'm referring to. I believe more people are going to learn that it's God first, then country---among other things.

Blogger map February 15, 2020 7:36 PM  

Vox,

I have a question about something important...

What is this Brave Rewards that keeps popping up on the Brave page?

https://brave.com/brave-rewards/

It looks like we get paid to look at advertising and we can donate to our favorite content creators. This looks like something that the Dark lord army could get behind.

Check it out...

Blogger VD February 15, 2020 7:36 PM  

I don't really like Fuentes but should he file for arbitration, I would cheer him on.

I would have to seriously question the competence of his lawyers were he to do that. YouTube does not mandate arbitration.

Blogger Shane Bradman February 15, 2020 7:41 PM  

It was a proportionate response to passive aggressive sniping. Get rid of your anklebiters before they start gnawing your knees.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 15, 2020 8:02 PM  

VD wrote:I don't really like Fuentes but should he file for arbitration, I would cheer him on.

I would have to seriously question the competence of his lawyers were he to do that. YouTube does not mandate arbitration.

I am fairly sure one could find hundreds of lawyers who would do it anyway after asking for a decent retainer. I suspect Nick would leave reading Youtube's terms of use to these lawyers. I mean if you can't trust a lawyer who has studied and studied and studied whom can you trust at all?

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid February 15, 2020 8:04 PM  

Statix wrote:People who mock the term "optics" are clearly omegas who completely lack any understanding of persuasion.

Not understanding the importance of optics or being unwilling to play that game does not alone narrow one down to being an omega.

I put it in quotations because it's not about optics for Nick, it's about the attention he craves that he desperately does not want taken away.

Blogger VFM #7634 February 15, 2020 8:15 PM  

He's from QUEBEC as you can hear from his thick accent.

He's about as French as an American is a Brit.


Quebecers and their dialect simply sound like French to us, so we call them French. It's weird for us to call them "Canadian" since "Canadians" are English-speakers who say "soary" and "aboot".

Blogger Dave February 15, 2020 8:51 PM  

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Blogger VD Bear February 15, 2020 8:55 PM  

Statix I don’t think you understand how subversive and gamma your reply sounds. Trick idiots into following you? I suggest using the Truth and standing on Godly principles regardless of the consequences. Other men will see that and are naturally drawn to it.

Blogger Martin Marprelate February 15, 2020 9:07 PM  

Hyde has his own stuff over at Gumroad.

Blogger jeffinjapan February 15, 2020 9:09 PM  

“ It was a proportionate response to passive aggressive sniping. Get rid of your anklebiters before they start gnawing your knees.”

Did you actually see the comment Nick made that sent Owen into a tailspin? If you did, and you still believe Owen’s response was proportionate, then you’re a dummy.

Blogger Dave February 15, 2020 9:11 PM  

Gregory the Tall wrote:

VD wrote:

I don't really like Fuentes but should he file for arbitration, I would cheer him on.

I would have to seriously question the competence of his lawyers were he to do that. YouTube does not mandate arbitration.

____

I am fairly sure one could find hundreds of lawyers who would do it anyway after asking for a decent retainer.



News Flash: lawyers will do things if paid.

Blogger Kiwi February 15, 2020 9:26 PM  

"BRING ME NICK!"

Blogger Requited Hate February 15, 2020 9:56 PM  

Your description of what happened is inaccurate.

Blogger Kiwi February 15, 2020 10:43 PM  

@ 35. jarheadljh

"Not sure about Australia & New Zealand"

It's very homoginised here to look at, in family and community. Some might go so far as to say we are also Americanised.

However, somewhat recently, and too my surprise, I've noticed that, although there is an obvious mix, the original Europeans Colonists are still here, certain events have flushed them out. Myself for example, not by any deliberate action on my part, am still the combination of those who clambered off the first few boats, as is my offspring. I'm not sure why my hereditary has remained relatively unmixed, possibly a genetic component at play, which hides from the levels of my knowledge, but more likely behavioural and accent commonality. It's not like I don't fit in here, quite the opposite, but I also don't go around shouting, "I'm a White Colonist!", one, because I never really thought about it much before, and two, because that would cause an uproar.

As you say, there is probably something different about those who headed to the colonies as opposed to those who stayed behind. My ancestors were fighters, worldly travelers, and adventure seekers. If I think about it, I see myself as more European than the Europeans who arrive here now, they seem weak, they never would have survived as colonists, the boat journey would have killed them, if not that the Maori.

Lots of Colonial Statues are now under threat here, lots of old Exotic European Trees are being felled and replaced with small natives trees, and decolonisaton is a new word that is bandied around. I don't like that word, and I don't like the statues being threatened, and I don't like the trees being cut, and I'm not alone.

Who knows what will happen here in the future, but it doesn't feel as peaceful as it has. But my reflection is only my short life, and in the scheme of things peace hasn't been that common.

Blogger HouellebecqGurl February 15, 2020 11:27 PM  

JF is highly autistic and despite his bluster, he had NOTHING to do with Fuentes being banned
This act was a symbiosis between the Charlie Kirk/Sebastian Girls/Dan Crenshaw gang and their pals in the Hebrew media pushing Greenblatt and the ADL run YT to remove Fuentes.
One thing that has proved effective for Fuentes, as a Zoomer with a mostly Zoomer audience has been his trek to Dlive last year. He is regularly getting 30K or more a night there and can maintain his show on there as well as ppisting clips on Bitchute., as well.
This is a somewhat effective remedy if you can get your audience to follow you but it seems to be less effective when your audience is made up of mostly Boomers & GenXers.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 16, 2020 12:14 AM  

@48 I think the distinction is whether it is 3rd party arbitatration, law suits in state courts. One is not like the other.

Blogger Statix February 16, 2020 1:08 AM  

@VD Bear

If using persuasion to sway public opinion is "gamma", then Scott Adams, Owen, and the God Emperor are all gammas.

Another way to think of what persuasion is, is rhetoric. Rhetoric falls under the broader umbrella of rhetoric. Owen literally uses rhetorical techniques all the time.

Blogger Statix February 16, 2020 1:15 AM  

@Rattlesnake_Kid

Nick certainly is an attention whore. But he also genuinely believes in advancing the Christian, Nationalist conversative movement. It would have been very easy for him to simply take the ticket from the very beginning, and become your basic-bitch Fox News commentator.

Perhaps I'm a bad judge of character (I really don't think so). Time will tell if you're right and I'm wrong.

Blogger Vulgar_Display February 16, 2020 1:51 AM  

JFG has greatly exaggerated his role in banning Fuentes. That fat early 2000's hair sporting Canadian idiot had nothing to do with it.

Nick clearly stated that a prominent Jewish member of conservative inc. was the person who leaned on YouTube. He didn't say which one so his insider that leaked him the info does not get doxxed.

It is frustrating watching all the bad blood between Vox/Owen and Nick when it originated from their idiotic fans playing a bad game of telephone between all of them trying to cause e-drama.

I'm also fairly certain it was the revenge of the cis guys acting like imbeciles in Vox/Owen chats impersonating Nick fans.

Blogger Akulkis February 16, 2020 2:32 AM  

"I expect Western Canada to be much the same from everything that I've seen thanks to the intertubewebs, though it's obvious that at bare minimum Quebec should have been split off decades ago. Not sure about Australia & New Zealand, but I wouldn't be surprised to find it organizing similarly."

Canada is a confederacy.
Any of the provinces can leave by a simple majority vote. The Quebecers have held multiple referendums since the 1970's, at rather great expense to the proponents of such a split, and it has failed by a large margin every single time. You probably don't realize the above, because it's been over 20 years since the last such vote, such that the idea is now dead in the water.

Since EVERYTHING in Canada is bilingual with regard to printed material, including textbooks, and modern republishing of historic documents, Canada's best move at this point would be to make English the ONLY official language. The Quebecers known and understand English.

Here is an incident which I witnessed myself

May 2002: A French-speaking Quebecer is at one of the ports of entry in Detroit (Ambassador Bridge). While passing through the vehicle screening, the ICE computer system has randomly selected his vehicle and its occupants for a more thorough inspection in secondary inspection in which Customs does a thorough check of his vehicle, while Immigration gives him a full interview.

Well, he's not cooperating. He's fallen back to the typical Francophone position (Speak French!) The Immigration officer, a black woman, is having none of it (I suspect for a lack of French, or even mandatory Spanish-language proficiency required for all ICE personnel), and says, "Well, I have to interview you, and if I can't interview you in a language I understand, than I'll have to turn you around and set you back to Canada."

He went from zero to full fluency in less than a second.

The only French-speakers-from-birth who willingly speak in English are from Louisiana. All the rest try to make some sort of political statement by being unwilling to converse in English but pretending it's a lack of ability. It's all just a pose, and nothing more.

Blogger Solon February 16, 2020 3:38 AM  

@61

No one is saying "dont use rhetoric or you're a gamma!!1!1!" Rhetoric has its place just like dialectic.

However, you have to look past the rhetoric and see where you're being led to. One can use rhetoric and still lead people to the same conclusion as dialectic would, for example, the God Emperor saying "you have to go back."

One can also use rhetoric and lead people astray, a la Fuentes when he makes personal attacks on people's families, which is what triggered Owen.

Rhetoric is only strengthened by dialectic truths. They're not necessarily opposed.

What the complaint against Fuentes is, is that he uses rhetoric carelessly. His rhetoric does not lead to the Truth. His rhetoric is focused solely on "optics" and not on actually making a positive statement. He is a gamma, not for his use of rhetoric, but because his rhetoric is based entirely on getting views and sniping at others.

He's literally Ben Shapiru 2.0 without the kippah. Hes not someone you should be supporting. As Vox said, the enemy of your enemy is not necessarily your friend. Allowing sinners/gammas into your flock will only lead to your downfall, as Little Nicky Titty Baby does.

But by all means, try to make LGBT your friends. They will sabotage your "right wing movement" from the inside by pushing you further left by increments. They've been doing this for decades in our institutions. We've seen it countless times. They are the scorpion to our frog; it is in their nature to betray.

Cast. Them. Out. They do not belong in your movement, not even if they agree with you on some point or another.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 16, 2020 3:47 AM  

Newscaper312 wrote:@48 I think the distinction is whether it is 3rd party arbitatration, law suits in state courts. One is not like the other.
Do you mean to say that there might be situations in which Youtube could agree to or be forced into arbitration?

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 16, 2020 5:37 AM  

Nikki’s stunt ambushing Benji and his family was never going to not have consequences. Hell, Shapiru probably has family in the ADL.

It is funny how JFG claimed “credit”. Obviously he was not involved, but he got to rub it in and enjoy some *schadenfreude*.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 16, 2020 5:53 AM  

Fuentes is one (fake) person on Twitter, but his real uber-gamma self on Telegram. Owen had to be alerted to this fact by subscribers who were watching Owen defend Fuentes while Fuentes was attacking Owen and his family on Telegram. NF is more gamma and two-faced than EVS.

Blogger Dark glasses Woody February 16, 2020 6:09 AM  

I agree, nationals are in the nations and the colonials are becoming white.

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira February 16, 2020 6:18 AM  

Nick who.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 16, 2020 6:23 AM  

Can’t believe I didn’t see this sooner.

Nick was only on YouTube for the income. Once it was demonetized, the channel was not of any use to him anymore, except to promote his monetized platforms. This explains his weird attack on JFG and others. His goal was to get banned in a blaze of glory, while milking the Nickers dry. It seems he has some Machiavellian handlers running him. (His parents?)This can’t be coming just from him.

Maybe he’ll marry Greta next?

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz February 16, 2020 6:31 AM  

@Boomer55
Brahmin have DNA tracers of Slavs. A Brahmin can understand Russian or Polish… they sounds like a temple Sanscrit.
So yes, at least on of the Indian casts is caucasian.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 16, 2020 6:49 AM  

Statix wrote:If using persuasion to sway public opinion is "gamma", then Scott Adams, Owen, and the God Emperor are all gammas.

Scott Adams *is* a gamma (and a cuck), slightly above mid-wit IQ range. He's also a male feminist who says (without kids of his own) that men should have no say in the case of abortion. He is a rhetorical wizard and has issues with his height and baldness. He has way more in common with Jordan Peterson than anyone who visits this site. Listen to his Periscopes some time. He's a really strange dude.

Blogger VD Bear February 16, 2020 6:51 AM  

Seems like you are shifting your point, I understand rhetoric. Now you are trying to redefine optics to mean rhetoric. Big Bear uses rhetoric to reinforce his points, it has nothing to do with sticking his finger in the wind to figure the most agreeable way to approach the subject. By using Owen as an example to again show you have no idea what “optics” means and why people think it’s moral cowardess

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 16, 2020 7:39 AM  

I'll give Gamma Nick one thing, he actually asked a trap question of a skunk conservative that was discrediting and disqualifying of said skunk. Other than that he sounds like the usual grift trap for we who want to be free from GloHo. The grift starts out with some right wing naughty talk, then some education to build the "movement" then join the "movement" and send money and then have the movement be crushed in any sorts of ways.

IMO Rabid Puppies great, the Grift operations don't even bother me. "Hur dur I'm gonna join a youtube channel movement to take on the mult-trillion dollars GloHo funded juggernaut and we are gonna educate and win oh and send money, hur dur."

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 16, 2020 8:14 AM  

Nick could have fixed this easily by telling his cult not to annoy Owen or our SDL.

Blogger VD February 16, 2020 8:31 AM  

It is frustrating watching all the bad blood between Vox/Owen and Nick when it originated from their idiotic fans playing a bad game of telephone between all of them trying to cause e-drama.

Nick had the ability to avoid it. He didn't want to, he preferred to posture for his fans instead. Once he ran away from a debate on a controversial subject, I knew he was not someone to take seriously. He's just not intellectually relevant.

Blogger Requited Hate February 16, 2020 9:07 AM  

I did. Owen recommended the Bears check out Nickels’ show. A Bear sent a superchat to Nickels, and instead of being grateful, Nickels was a snarky douche. Owen called out Nickels for it and instead of apologizing, Nickels double downed on being a snarky douche. Which is all Nickels ever does - be a snarky douche.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 16, 2020 9:09 AM  

@74 VD Bear
I got the same impression from what Statix wrote.

Blogger Section 8A February 16, 2020 10:35 AM  

It's one thing the ZMan got right: listening to Fuentes rail against Reagan and that generation as if he were there is ridiculous, and makes him sound even more like a child.

The little punk was trying to perpetrate that if he had been there he would have seen through the rhetoric and gotten it right. Rothbard was one of the few who did, and let's just say that Fuentes is no Rothbard.

Blogger DouglasEdward February 16, 2020 10:47 AM  

@ 64.....

"Canada is a confederacy.
Any of the provinces can leave by a simple majority vote. The Quebecers have held multiple referendums since the 1970's, at rather great expense to the proponents of such a split, and it has failed by a large margin every single time. You probably don't realize the above, because it's been over 20 years since the last such vote, such that the idea is now dead in the water."

The 1995 referendum failed by 1% point. Secession was 49.42% and Stay was 50.58%.

This couldn't be more narrow, why are you calling it a large margin?

The only other referendum was in 1980, that one did fail by a large margin, it was 40.44% Secession, 59.56% Stay.

Blogger Statix February 16, 2020 12:56 PM  

@Solon: "One can also use rhetoric and lead people astray, a la Fuentes when he makes personal attacks on people's families, which is what triggered Owen."

Do you realize how hypocritical and un-self-aware you sound? Accusing Nick Fuentes of "attacking peoples' family," when it was Owen who was making fun of Nick's "mommy milkers," posting pics of his sister & her lesbo gf, accusing his dad of being a "Sephardic jew," etc.

I have zero interest in internet beefs or e-drama between two people. I took no sides and still take no sides in this pointless, boring scuttlebutt between Owen & Nick. Whether Nick started it, whether Owen's response was justified, I couldn't care less. However, I will point out rank hypocrisy and NPC-level lack of introspection whenever I see it.

I don't want to spam this thread any more than I have, so I'll say that I fully understand why people don't like Nick Fuentes, or think he's a total prick, a punk, an asshole. Those aren't wholly inaccurate descriptors of the guy. He's even an asshole to his own fans who send him money. But you don't have to like someone personally to realize that he's another potential piece on the chessboard in the war against the evil of this world. Never forget what the true enemy is.

Blogger Boomer55 February 16, 2020 1:05 PM  

jarheadlhj
@35
EMJ pointed out that the "whiteness" is a joint liberal WASP/Jew movement. EMJ would emulate the WASP professors' outfit etc., even though he was an Irish/German Catholic.

The culture you describe is more "synthetic English/Scots" than white, but it took the "white" name. It is synonymous, but it is still a rhetorical reality that "white power" is unacceptable while "black power" is accepted by mainstream media.

Blogger rcocean February 16, 2020 1:13 PM  

Nick isn't stupid, and has stated numerous times that he expected to be banned by youtube and has a "plan". We'll now see what the "Plan" is. And I completely agree with Vox.

Blogger rcocean February 16, 2020 1:15 PM  

Its amazing how these inter-right squabbles get people out writing 3 paragraph comments, when the posts on how to fight the Left, get minimal responses.

Blogger VD February 16, 2020 1:33 PM  

I will point out rank hypocrisy and NPC-level lack of introspection whenever I see it.

Good to know. I will point out that you are obviously a Gamma, because no one asked you to point out anything for them.

Blogger R Webfoot February 16, 2020 2:27 PM  

What should Nick have done? Explicitly disavow the actions of the wedge-splitters raiding your chat and blog?

I've noticed that's what you do when people try to split wedges between you and your allies.

Blogger VD February 16, 2020 3:48 PM  

What should Nick have done? Explicitly disavow the actions of the wedge-splitters raiding your chat and blog?

Obviously. But he's not a leader of anything. He's just another attention whore riding the fame tiger. See: Richard Spencer.

The VFM and the Dread Ilk have accomplished far more than depantsing a hapless cuckservative. And you never see them running amok and brigading right-wing figures because they have discipline and leadership.

Blogger Statix February 16, 2020 10:47 PM  

VD wrote:Good to know. I will point out that you are obviously a Gamma, because no one asked you to point out anything for them.

Oh ffs. Vox, I was responding to someone, and really multiple people, who were criticizing/attacking me. It's not as though I was offering a completely unsolicited, unprompted comment.

And maybe I should have clarified this a bit earlier on, but I fully understand and support the fact that you don't feel compelled to lift a finger for Nick. Considering that he definitely made some shitty remarks about you, I would never say you're obligated in any way to help him. I'm an Unauthorized Premium member, and I subscribe to your YouTube channel, so I have been, and still am, one of your biggest fans.

Blogger xevious2030 February 17, 2020 11:04 AM  

“Those aren't wholly inaccurate descriptors of the guy”

“Butter. Butter. Butter, butter, butter. Butter.”

Blogger VD February 17, 2020 1:58 PM  

Oh ffs. Vox, I was responding to someone, and really multiple people, who were criticizing/attacking me.

I am aware of that. Nothing wrong with that. But it doesn't change the fact that asserting a right, or worse, the responsibility, to point out behavior one doesn't like whenever one sees it tends to be consistent with a certain behavior pattern.

Of course, only you know what you intended, and the rest of us can only go by the words we see here. If you like Nick, that's fine, that's your call. But this is really not the ideal place to defend or justify the guy, anymore than the comments of his channel would be a good place to defend or justify me.

Blogger MEGAMUS Maximus February 18, 2020 1:58 AM  

Now you're just being the stupid gamma we all know you are.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch February 20, 2020 7:54 PM  

Paul Gottfried is not pleased with Fuentes' deplatforming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8kVDTfMKcw

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