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Saturday, April 11, 2020

Hoist on their own petard

Some US liberals are reconsidering the wisdom of their advocacy of gun control:
My friend’s father owns a gun range near me and she said he’s seen a huge amount of liberals coming in to purchase weapons in recent weeks.

How does he know they’re liberals?

“They’re shocked to discover they can’t just walk out of the store with a gun.”

We’ve all heard about gun sales skyrocketing recently, but I hadn’t considered some of the tangential effects of the phenomenon until I spoke to my friend. Not only are many liberals suddenly learning to love their Second Amendment rights, many of them are finding out that the gun control narrative in this country — as repeated loudly and often by Hollywood and the mainstream media — is a complete lie.
Even the most slavish eventually discover the need to defend themselves.

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Blogger SciVo April 11, 2020 8:55 AM  

Well if by "lie" you mean "conforming facts to theory," then sure, gun control is bunk.

Blogger Odysseus April 11, 2020 9:06 AM  

I've always been pro-Second Amendment, have lots of military and police in the family, etc. But I have never owned a gun. After taking in a lot of advice (from nutty friends who recommended I get an AK to liberal friends who advised me against getting a gun at all), I went and bought an inexpensive 12-gauge shotgun at Wal-Mart yesterday.
I was completely appalled by the restrictions surrounding the whole event. I was shocked to think that my gun-loving friends (all of them responsible, professional people) have had to go through that rigamarole every time they go buy a gun. Halfway through the process, I was no longer amused and I wanted to shout "This is bullshit! I'm an American. Give me my gun!"

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 11, 2020 9:11 AM  

Their leaders have told them all their lives that you can walk into a gun store anywhere in the US today and walk out with an armload of machine guns, to scare them out of votes and money. It worked; they believed it.

Blogger tdcommenter April 11, 2020 9:18 AM  

The plurality liberals and statists acquaintances is that they should have guns, but there need to be strict laws to keep them out of the the hands of wackos. I've learned to expect less philosophically from those types.

Blogger bramley April 11, 2020 9:27 AM  

The lie this side of the pond being that you cannot purchase a gun at all. Tell that to my dad with his locked cabinet full of shotguns. Which he bought legally. From a shop. In the UK.

The restrictions are much tighter, but you can get a Glock if you want to. You just have to stick a great big stock on it to make it not easily 'concealable' (meaning it must be over 60cm in total length).

And the bobbies come round periodically to check on the safe storage of the weapons. Yes, it's not quite the same as you yanks, but better than a full ban.

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 11, 2020 9:35 AM  

The reality of gun commerce and regulation is only the tip of the iceberg where the crimes of the media are concerned.
Who is it that depicts gun usage as "Somebody gets shot, nice music plays, the guy gets the girl"?
And one you know the ways of the gun, the limitations become so apparent the magic evaporates. This is why knowing how to use a gun makes a man less likely to resort to one as a problem solver.
Another crime is how they depict gunshot wounds. People flying through the air and dropping dead from a .38, or the hero getting hit by a 5.56 in the leg but keeps going. Plot armor I guess. People have been shot and not known it, and a rifle bullet to an appendage means shattered bones.
Now, if the liberals actually go and get training, then this will matter even more and they will realize even deeper layers of lies.

Blogger bramley April 11, 2020 9:37 AM  

BTW i don't think petards are legal in the UK, so we hoist people by their own 'licensed imitation cannon or battering ram for the specified use of historical re-enactment clubs or storage in genuine collections'

Blogger Balkan Yankee April 11, 2020 9:37 AM  

Love it when the Muh Gun Control Narrative collides with reality. The Libtard cognitive dissonance displayed (i.e., blaming gun store owners for rules and restrictions they played no role in making) is a wonder to behold.

Blogger rikjames.313 April 11, 2020 9:39 AM  

Michigan's democratic governor is running for vice president. She shut down the gun stores here and opened the jails, Wayne County (Detroit) has no misdemeanor prisoners left at all, and the city will not arrest for anything other than violent felonies.

Blogger MichaelJMaier April 11, 2020 9:45 AM  

Larry Correia said something about how he reacts to hearing that the gun and gun sales industries are "unregulated ". You have to be so intentionally ignorant to believe that that it nearly beggars belief.

Isn't it 20,000 gun laws on the books, nationwide? And the pigs STILL have to invent violations for which to arrest peaceful gun owners out of thin air!!!!!

Blogger Brett baker April 11, 2020 9:45 AM  

The criminal underclass is only violent because of cops, otherwise they'd all be nonviolent offenders.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim April 11, 2020 10:01 AM  

Also a dead giveaway, whenever they pick up a G19 they inevitably remark “oh wow that’s heavy.”

Blogger Silent Draco April 11, 2020 10:35 AM  

Great. Their paperwork can go to the end of the line for processing, because it just takes that much time to get it right.

Blogger xavier April 11, 2020 10:43 AM  

This pandemic is a clarifying moment. It burns through the lies exposing tealitybthst's been hidden all long

Blogger John Rockwell April 11, 2020 11:08 AM  

tdcommenter wrote:The plurality liberals and statists acquaintances is that they should have guns, but there need to be strict laws to keep them out of the the hands of wackos. I've learned to expect less philosophically from those types.

Don't expect reciprocity from Liberals and Statists.

Unless they are truly born again they will probably turn their guns on us given the chance.



Blogger Ska_Boss April 11, 2020 11:16 AM  

I wouldn't feel comfortable in a shooting range with all those libs and their cognitive dissonance, especially if I was wearing my MAGA hat.

Blogger MichaelJMaier April 11, 2020 11:18 AM  

Hoist upon my own retard, is how I like to say it. :D

From VD's linked article:

I can’t describe the amount of fear in my staff as we had the buyers show proof of safe handling as part of the purchase process as required by law. You have never seen so many barrels pointed at sales staff and other customers. It was truly frightening.

You just know some of those guns are just going to "go off" and sum youff's room temp IQ goes to 0 in an instant....

And it'll STILL be whitey's fault.

Even though CA REQUIRES (????) demonstration of safe gun handling by the customers? Yeah, I'm sure they're all observing the four laws of gun ownership. /s

Blessed St. Darwin doing his work...

Blogger Jack Amok April 11, 2020 11:28 AM  

A bunch of liberals showing up at the gun range with their brand new purchases might just be the most effective argument in favor of gun control the left could ever come up with.

Blogger Crew April 11, 2020 11:58 AM  

Were some people planning for this back in 2017?

https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a32076205/2017-pentagon-memo-coronavirus/

USNORTHCOM Branch Plan 3560 Pandemic Influenza and Infectious Disease Response 06 January 2017

Blogger Sir William Bradford April 11, 2020 11:59 AM  

Who is the “criminal underclass” and what is it about cops that make a non-violent criminal class become violent?

Blogger Matthew T April 11, 2020 12:16 PM  

Same here in Canada. Unlike you guys we actually can order guns online and have them mailed, but in recent weeks I've seen a number of stories about former "whaddya need a gun for?" folks dismayed that they need a license first. Naturally the training courses that you need to get a license are all shut down.

As a matter of fact Trudeau was this close to passing a sweeping gun ban until Corona-chan got in the way. I'm interested to see whether there's still any public enthusiasm for the ban after this.

Blogger Greg Hunt April 11, 2020 12:18 PM  

@Those folks on Great Britain: I've seen, via yootoob, examples of an increase in HEMA (traditional European swordplay) being studied and practiced over there. Any opinion on whether that is itself a response to difficult times ahead?

Blogger Warunicorn April 11, 2020 12:21 PM  

They think that's bad; wait til they find out about concealed carry and what it takes to get a license in certain states and cities. Half of them probably wouldn't get one because of how coo-coo they are.

Blogger Stryker4570 April 11, 2020 12:24 PM  

I have actually been to that facility several times. My father in law used to go regularly. Nice place, professional staff. I'm laughing because I knew dozens of the type of entitled, spoiled liberals that would think nothing of making a scene or giving an ugly Yelp review when they are forced to submit to laws they stridently argued for just a short while ago.

Blogger awildgoose April 11, 2020 12:37 PM  

“They’re shocked to discover they can’t just walk out of the store with a gun.”

This is no surprise.

The average Leftist truly believes that rules are for everyone else but not them.

Blogger robins111 April 11, 2020 12:42 PM  

The amusing thing in Canada, is after making it very difficult to get a firearm, they wetre still spewing the nonsense you could wander into a gun shop and buy an assault rifle. That is till now, when on top of the stupidity the Liberal government is releasing prisoners from jail.

After discovering the impossibility of getting a gun within a 6 month period, (training and licensing) they now have come up with a brilliant scheme.

They are sucking up to gun owners and asking to 'borrow' a gun and ammo for a while. The responses have been a mite rude.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 11, 2020 12:45 PM  

"The criminal underclass is only violent because of cops, otherwise they'd all be nonviolent offenders."

How do you breathe and walk at the same time?

Blogger Homesteader April 11, 2020 1:11 PM  

I stopped going to public ranges a long time ago, after a nice Chinaman pointed his shiny new Sig Sauer at me. And that was back in the day, in 2013.

I can only imagine what it will be like, now, with the DNC voting block making their cherry pop shots. Good times for rangemasters!

As for the lefty cog discord, a co-worker, last month, said,"I wish I had gotten a gun LAST YEAR, Homesteader!" Full Bay Area Lefty, with extra TDS.

CoronaChan- Making lefties into preppers. Is there anything she can't accomplish?

Blogger ADS April 11, 2020 1:23 PM  

Odysseus wrote:(from nutty friends who recommended I get an AK

I'm that nutty friend. AK-pattern rifles are durable, effective weapons with a very simple manual of arms. 7.62x39 ammunition is cheap enough to buy in quantity and train hard with. Detachable magazines allow for a high volume of fire, although the large capacity of the standard magazine means you probably won't have to change magazines in a normal civilian home defense situation. Malfunctions are rare, and clearing a malfunction is usually as simple as charging the bolt handle. Rarely does it get more complex than removing the magazine, charging the bolt, then reinserting and recharging. It is easy for a novice shooter to put the sights on the target and simply pull the trigger repeatedly until the threat is over.

A 12-gauge (I assume pump action, because you said inexpensive) shotgun is a serviceable weapon as well, but it does have some shortcomings. Ammunition capacity is low, especially for hunting models. They can be long and unwieldy to maneuver indoors. It's easy to "short stroke" the pump action in the heat of the moment with adrenaline and fear, and clearing the resulting malfunction is a somewhat involved process due to the non-detachable tube magazine. I'm not all negative about a 12-gauge pump, one feature it does have going for it is a center-mass shot with 00 buckshot is a guaranteed one-shot stop roughly equivalent in trauma to being shot nine times simultaneously with 9mm bullets. I don't care how much PCP/Meth you're on, you can't go on fighting without a heart and lungs. They're also legal in many jurisdictions that forbid centerfire semi-autos with scary features, and are a familiar non-threatening item that can't be used to paint you as a bloodthirsty whackjob by an overzealous prosecutor should you be brought up on charges for a defensive gun use.

Regardless of your choice of firearms, I implore you to get training and hold yourself to a high standard of proficiency with your weapon. I'd much rather be the guy with a $250 duck gun and 1000 hours of practice than the guy with a $1000 AR-15 that lives in the safe unfired.

Blogger Martin Marprelate April 11, 2020 1:34 PM  

Now imagine how freedom loving Canadians feel...

Blogger An Orthodox Christian April 11, 2020 1:37 PM  

I'm in the supply chain of the pharmaceuticals being used in the critical care of patients with COVID-19. There have been shortages of these meds since about 2017. Coincidence?

Blogger Ken Prescott April 11, 2020 1:54 PM  

You would have to be an idiot to NOT plan on a pandemic coming.

Blogger Unknownsailor April 11, 2020 2:12 PM  

MichaelJMaier wrote:Hoist upon my own retard, is how I like to say it. :D

From VD's linked article:

I can’t describe the amount of fear in my staff as we had the buyers show proof of safe handling as part of the purchase process as required by law. You have never seen so many barrels pointed at sales staff and other customers. It was truly frightening.

You just know some of those guns are just going to "go off" and sum youff's room temp IQ goes to 0 in an instant....

And it'll STILL be whitey's fault.

Even though CA REQUIRES (????) demonstration of safe gun handling by the customers? Yeah, I'm sure they're all observing the four laws of gun ownership. /s

Blessed St. Darwin doing his work...

Like my dearly departed preferred instructor Pat Rogers used to say for his range safety brief on TD0, "You point a gun at me, I will point a gun at you. I have been shot by a student. It was not a pleasant experience, and it is not going to happen again."

Having been fighting with libtards over my God given right to self defense for the last three decades, I take a very dim view of them now trying to avail themselves of the ability they have been so ardently trying to deny me and my loved ones for my entire 49 years of life on this Earth.

Learning will occur, and they will not like it.

Blogger Unknownsailor April 11, 2020 2:19 PM  

bramley wrote:The lie this side of the pond being that you cannot purchase a gun at all. Tell that to my dad with his locked cabinet full of shotguns. Which he bought legally. From a shop. In the UK.

The restrictions are much tighter, but you can get a Glock if you want to. You just have to stick a great big stock on it to make it not easily 'concealable' (meaning it must be over 60cm in total length).

And the bobbies come round periodically to check on the safe storage of the weapons. Yes, it's not quite the same as you yanks, but better than a full ban.

You have to ask pretty please may I the entire step of the way. At any point in the line they can say no, and you have no recourse at all if they do.

Sorry, deny it all you want, but your chains lie across your shoulders already. Your ancestors let the government regulate your right to self defense out of existence, and now a burglar has more rights in your home than you do.

Do you understand yet why we Yanks violently resisted the efforts of your army when they came to Concord Massachusetts to confiscate cannon and shot?

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 11, 2020 2:23 PM  

@19: Planning for a generic pandemic? Of course. A good staff will have considered all likely problems, and a lot of unlikely ones. They'll have a plan for each...and backup plans for when the first plan does not work.

Blogger rikjames.313 April 11, 2020 2:41 PM  

"[why cops] that make a non-violent criminal class become violent?"

I was military police a few decades ago. The system decides some things are crimes that need to be enforced. What ever that is..be it don't shoot drunkley down the street all the way down to wear a seatbelt or don't sell loosey cigs. So when the leaders of a city/state/military set that rule, and the cops see the action, they have to tell people to stop it. Then if the offender picks the 'no' game up the cops have to come back twice as hard. That is how a strong proud black man who doesn't want to cloud his presence with a mask goes from saying 'no thanks' to a cop, to getting his ass kicked.

Blogger Karen took the Kids April 11, 2020 2:42 PM  

I bet they're all bad shots

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 11, 2020 2:57 PM  

Cog Dis is in part how they keep the Democratic Looting Party together, do you think those Lib clowns are worried about Cletus out in his trailer in Nowhereville or the Democratic Voter of Vibrancy two blocks over? Let them fight.

Anyway those pussies would be better off calling WarDogs Inc. an interstellar military solutions corporation for their security concerns than owning a firearm they have little desire to master.

Blogger RedJack April 11, 2020 3:12 PM  

I own several firearms. The ATF probably knows more about my spending habits than I do. And I follow my firearm related purchases very closely.

A liberal acquaintance of mine just bought a hand gun. He was shocked that I had to do all the checks and paperwork all the time.

Blogger Kiwi April 11, 2020 3:50 PM  

We had a run on small rifles and ammo (no permit required), here before the lock down. Perhaps people were considering hunting for small game, rabbits, duck, pheasants, I thought, that's sensible. However, I heard most of those guns were going into the cities where there is no food to shoot, unless rats and hedgehogs are on the menu. People were also asking "hey, where can I get a secondhand compound bow, again no permit required.

Later, much to my horror I discovered prepper groups like I'd never seen before! They weren't hunters or boat owners and were mostly women and weak men. I call them the Marshmallow preppers. They have plenty of money and the household is dominated by the female. Eg. "I'm getting a generator, my husband thinks we don't need one, but I'm getting one anyway"

They store tonnes of sugar and carbs, enough to feed an obesity ward, and nark in anyone they suspect not following government rules to the letter. It wouldn't surprise me if they had night vision. Wouldn't surprise me if they tried to shoot someone fishing.

I was genuinely surprised, but now I know they exist.




Blogger Damelon Brinn April 11, 2020 3:52 PM  

They are sucking up to gun owners and asking to 'borrow' a gun and ammo for a while.

I saw some gun owners in New York state saying they had to "sadly" tell liberal friends that to loan them a gun would be a felony.

You would have to be an idiot to NOT plan on a pandemic coming.

Yes. They've been tinkering with these things for years, including SARS-CoV specifically. Add China's disdain for safety protocols and its ability to buy off the monitors with our money, and it was just a matter of time until it happened with something serious. If all the social distancing and lockdowns get us out of this with no worse than a culling of some of the less healthy, we should consider ourselves lucky.

Blogger bramley April 11, 2020 4:58 PM  

@34

Silly old ancestors of mine, what ever were they thinking, storming over to the colonies to take your guns and then coming back home and taking their own away too! Mad men.

And to think we still go on and on and on and on about it, never shutting up about all the tea we lost and the rights and freedoms we weren't able to impinge upon, all that tax revenue our beloved monarch is missing out on.

You'd think it would be coarse to live upon the failures of our long departed ancestors, and better that we move on and recognise our position in the world now, but my goodness doesn't it just feel good to know that men flying our flag were once expelled by force from the Americas. It's a legacy we can really dine out on.

Blogger Nihil Dicit April 11, 2020 5:04 PM  

As these revelations begin to spread among our liberal brethren in the state of California, will we see a shift in gun laws and support for anti-Second Amendment legislators?

Yes, but only for them. All you redneck-ed rightwing gunnutjobs need to be closely controlled.

Blogger Akulkis April 11, 2020 5:34 PM  

"You'd think it would be coarse to live upon the failures of our long departed ancestors, and better that we move on and recognise our position in the world now, but my goodness doesn't it just feel good to know that men flying our flag were once expelled by force from the Americas. It's a legacy we can really dine out on."

What are you trying to do, convert to Canadian?

Blogger Cataline Sergius April 11, 2020 5:52 PM  

Working in a gun shop since the plague hit town must be a PTSD inducuing nightmare.

Before everyone went ham on social distancing, I had walked into my favorite gun shop and ended up snatching a pistol out of the hands of a Daniel Kibblesmith clone.

I was standing next to him, bullsh!tting with the shop's owner. After being handed a Glock 19, the Soy Wonder immediately pointed it directly at the clerks face.

I instantly wrenched it away from him, then read him the rifle range-safety-violator riot act. Bellowing that about Rule One and Rule Two.

When he was certain I wasn't going to pistol whip him, he sneeringly declared that, "it wasn't like he was in danger, I know that that gun is unloaded."

The shop's owner said, "how did you know that, sir?"

Kibblesmith Clone: I saw him check the gun-hole! (*I am assuming he meant the chamber*)

"Because he did this?" The Owner drew his own 1911, dropped the magazine, pulled the slide and the round in the chamber popped out. The clerk standing next to him was expecting it and caught the round. He knew what was coming next, I did too.

He snapped the slide home and handed it over to the Kibblesmith. "Sir, whenever you receive a pistol, you always check the...gun-hole" he said in firm and slightly sarcastic voice.

The dweeb rolled his eyes and sighed as if to say, caveman gonna caveman and jerked the slide back.

He nearly dropped it when a red dummy-round flew out of the chamber.

He was actually willing to listen after that. Shocking, I know.

Blogger Unknownsailor April 11, 2020 7:35 PM  

Only a progressive cultist would sneer at a firearms establishment proprietor while standing at the firearm dealer's counter trying to buy one of said proprietor's wares.

I'd have told him to get out, he is a danger to himself and those around him if he is armed, and he would be better off being eaten first to so that the rest of us have time to respond.

I have zero patience for the belligerently stupid.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf April 11, 2020 7:59 PM  

When I was 12 I won the main prize at a magic show where the Magician pulls a rabbit out of his hat. It was a gift certificate to a sporting goods store. I bought a 12 gauge over-under shotgun.

I was chatting to an Australian who was an American citizen but had never been to the USA before. He said he wanted to visit if they got rid all the guns. I told him that any citizen who advocates for ending 1A or 2A needs to contribute to painting the wall red.

Needless to say, that ended that conversation :/


VOX made a post a few years ago that provided evidence of the present IQ being around 94 (if normalized to 1990). It seems reasonable to hypothesize that the average IQ in the USA was 115 or higher in 1800. And that the founders had higher intellegence. But what led to this high intellegence? Part of it was obviously winter killing off people without foresight to plan for the future. But also the English had a policy of punishing by death people for various crimes people of low IQ would likely commit or get caught trying to commit. I do wonder what role war played in increasing the average IQ?

I think it's going to take more than just repatriations to even begin to attempt to recreate the average American that existed 200 years ago.


Maybe Corona-chan is just trying to clean up her big brother, Dsygenesis-kun's, century of mess?

Blogger God Emperor Memes April 11, 2020 8:34 PM  

"Who is the “criminal underclass” and what is it about cops that make a non-violent criminal class become violent?"

The police keep Dontayvius, Jamal and LaMarcus from meeting instantaneous justice at the end of a gun barrel/rope.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 11, 2020 10:03 PM  

Meng Greenleaf wrote:I was chatting to an Australian who was an American citizen but had never been to the USA before.
Why is this even remotely possible?

Blogger Raker_T April 11, 2020 11:08 PM  

@45 I'm missing this. The "red dummy round" is a clear red plastic "snap" practice round? If the first thing he did was to take the magazine out, a cartridge shaped object couldn't have come from there, so he did a sleight of hand move before/as the slide was moving forward, and inserted it then?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine April 12, 2020 12:28 AM  

"Why is this even remotely possible?"

It's entirely his parents' fault.

Blogger Akulkis April 12, 2020 12:29 AM  

Pay enough bribe money, and Congress will pass a bill making you a citizen. That's how George Soros got American citizenship. He sure as hell didn't go to Immigration and take and pass any citizenship test to become a naturalized citizen.

It's only one more point of the deep corruption in Congress and the immigration system.

Blogger Jack Amok April 12, 2020 12:52 AM  

If the first thing he did was to take the magazine out, a cartridge shaped object couldn't have come from there, so he did a sleight of hand move before/as the slide was moving forward, and inserted it then?

Yeah, Cataline, there's something fishy about that story. If you drop the mag and then rack the slide, there shouldn't be anything left in the chamber. I've done that a million* times with a 1911 and the chamber is clear.. I mean, you should still look - I've always been taught you check yourself even if you just watched they guy handing the gun to you check, but if that sequence went as described, where did the dummy round come from?

* ish

Blogger Snidely Whiplash April 12, 2020 1:45 AM  

The purpose of the police and justice system is to protect criminals from retributive justice.
The two biggest crimes under our system are failing to pay taxes, and taking justice into your own hands.

Blogger OvergrownHobbit April 12, 2020 1:49 AM  

@5
The lie this side of the pond being that you cannot purchase a gun at all. Tell that to my dad with his locked cabinet full of shotguns. Which he bought legally. From a shop. In the UK.

And, what would happen, were you to use that gun to successfully defend yourself in the U.K.?

May you still use your guns for grouse hunting, etc.? Or is that banned for non-aristos now?

Blogger Meng Greenleaf April 12, 2020 2:52 AM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Meng Greenleaf wrote:I was chatting to an Australian who was an American citizen but had never been to the USA before.

Why is this even remotely possible?
I believe most other States/nations will leave the choice up to the child until the end of their 18th year. If they don't, it will catch up to them.

As an example, a Japanese/American dual citizen told me that when she entered Japan on her Japanese passport she was told she'd have to sign some paperwork renouncing her Japanese citizen (I think she was ~25). Looking at the exit/entry visas it's clear if you enter another country using a different passport. And you're required by law to enter the country you're a citizen of, with that passport.

Anyway, she refused to do so and I guess they agreed they'd mail her the paperwork. Once she received the paperwork she was called and so she asked to see the explicit law. At that time (which was about 10 years ago or more) maybe Japan didn't have this sort of law? They probably still don't. I guess they simply expected you to do the right thing. They told her to sign the papers. She said no. And that was that.

I've come to appreciate how litigious our society is (American). God we love to have a ton of laws. I cannot believe this was the culture in the 1800s? Ten paces and turn seems much MUCH better IMO :)

As to the woman, I imagine it caught up to her when she needed to renew her passport. Suppose she had a new passport issued to her at 17, then at 27 when she applied again (assuming she intended to travel outside of Japan and return) she'd have to tick the box that asked "Are you a citizen of another country". At that point, they simply don't issue you a passport. The problem sort of just goes away then.

For the Australian, I've met a few Americans that have never been to the USA. They're always curious to ask me about what it's like. And of course they talk about the day they're going to 'return'. It's the exact same with Syrian Australians - who've never been to Syria. Or Greek Australians - who've never been to Greece. Etc.... Mostly they have some weird distorted view of how much better things will be once they 'return'. But they never do.

I sort of feel a little sorry for them. They'd have been better off being told that they are Australian, full-stop. No American citizenship. That way they (a) at least feel a sense of identiy that's not distorted and (b) don't have an excuse not to do whatever it is they supposedly are going to do.

Blogger Akulkis April 12, 2020 2:55 AM  

@5

"The lie this side of the pond being that ... "

... a dead body with wounds produced by violence isn't a murder victim UNLESS some miscreant is convicted for the deed.

Since most murders go unsolved, the UK has a "low murder rate" compared to the US, because the UK government is cooking the books.

Blogger Akulkis April 12, 2020 3:22 AM  

"I've come to appreciate how litigious our society is (American). God we love to have a ton of laws. I cannot believe this was the culture in the 1800s? Ten paces and turn seems much MUCH better IMO :)"

We didn't have even 10% of the laws we have now before (((WW2 Refugees))) arrived here. Because they can't settle ANYTHING between themselves, even, without dragging it into a court in front of a damned judge, and then making their special circumstances universal for everyone else, until and unless the legislature THEN passes a statute to contradict the court decision to keep the case law from being the only word on the subject... but then the statutory law is ALWAYS far too limited in scope to foresee all future situations.

Before then, neighbors tended to settle problems among themselves (do the right thing) rather than one side arguing for inanities.

Blogger Up from the pond April 12, 2020 4:38 AM  

About every seven years, liberal Jews go through a gun-buying phase, well documented by approving media, either because "antisemitism is on the rise again" or because the native suckers are feared to be on the verge of a crime spree as a result of some real or anticipated societal breakdown.

It's an evergreen. And it's always written in a tone of superficially self-deprecating but actually self-congratulating narcissism, featuring the same obligatory references to these pioneer Jews' "charming" or "adorable" naivete: "Golly, that's a heavy pistol! Are all of them this heavy?" "I would like to purchase your finest pre-loaded handgun, please." If the story is long enough, it always includes a quote from one of these drugstore cowboys to the effect that his grandma survived the death camps and by Moses he's a tough Jew who's gonna defend himself.

The gun story started showing up not long after the Six Day War, 1967. It and "Laughter Is The Best Medicine" may be the most frequently appearing evergreens since that time.

Live long enough and you will see variations on the same things over and over. That's one of the downsides of aging, like arthritis or a balloon-size prostate.

Blogger rikjames.313 April 12, 2020 5:23 AM  

"We didn't have even 10% of the laws we have now before (((WW2 Refugees))) arrived here. Because they can't settle ANYTHING between themselves, even, without dragging it into a court in front of a damned judge, and then making their special circumstances universal for everyone else, until and unless the legislature THEN passes a statute to contradict the court decision to keep the case law from being the only word on the subject... but then the statutory law is ALWAYS far too limited in scope to foresee all future situations."

I am a lawyer in a dying rust belt state who ALWAYS goes left (except for Ronnie and Trump) because of the union tards and blacks.

However, your point on gods chosen people is sort of right and sort of not. I have a two volume set of laws from shortly after we became a state I keep on display in my office, but the biggest factor in needing statutes was the common law really doesn't handle modern life well. The first realization of this was rail and streetcar---there were huge reporters on cases trying to track the decisions and finally the legislature (and finally congress) had to step in and write the laws. Same with financial life and transactions, you need uniform baking and commercial transaction laws (literally the Uniform Commercial Code) as soon as you buy and sell past the nearest marketplace and those laws have to be long and detailed to keep the judges in rural Dakota and NYC both on the same legal paths.

Same with most things.

What is true is that jews always win, jewish crime is almost never prosecuted and when it is they get lowball changes and time. My current favorite for special legal handling is a tort mill owner here, Mike Morse for anyone in the area, who admitted on tape to committing CSC forth degree on a woman. Not only did the county prosecutor decree that there was not enough evidence, because there was only her testimony and his taped confession, but the judge threw out her civil suit for the same reason. The local ABC station then put him on a air for a month as a legal commentator to clean his reputation. (Oh, and his sister is a sex blogger, and when state farm sued him for his proven role in a fraudulent insurance scheme the feds decreed there was not enough evidence to charge).

Blogger bramley April 12, 2020 6:54 AM  

@55

Under British law you are permitted to use 'reasonable force' to defend yourself in your home. There was a famous case about 20 years ago of a farmer, Tony Martin, who shot two burglars at his isolated, rural farmhouse, one of whom died at the scene. He was vilified in the press, cast as a scheming vigilante, and sent to prison for three years. Then just over a year ago there was another case in Hither Green, south London, where an elderly gent killed a burglar with a knife and faced no charges for his actions, and became a bit of a local hero. So it's horses for courses. Both cases involved Irish travellers perpetrating the burglary. Make of that what you will. Tony Martin was prosecuted because it was deemed his actions were beyond 'reasonable force', and the gun he used was unlicensed (sawn off pump-action shotty). I would suggest that a .22 hunting rifle, say, kept under lawful circumstances, could reasonably be used to deter or chase off a burglar without undue repercussions, but of course, it's always treated on a case by case basis, there is no hard and fast rule beyond what can be deemed 'reasonable force'. People have been jailed for using air pistols.

Under the law, firearms may be kept for sporting purposes like hunting or clay pigeon shooting, but they have to be locked in a secure cabinet, and not stored loaded. I think the ammunition must be kept separately, but not sure on that one. You'd have a hard time getting licensed to hold a weapon in a block of flats in central London without having very good reason, such as membership of a shooting club. It's seen as a liability in case of burglary, hence the secure storage stipulations.

A far cry from the days of the Tottenham Outrage, when police giving chase to (((armed revolutionaries))) who had attempted to rob a factory pay-roll were able to borrow guns from members of the public to return fire. See also the Siege of Sidney Street.

It's only as recently as the 90s that firearm ownership started to become really strict, and (((New Labour))) were all for an outright ban after Dunblaine, but only managed to tighten existing controls and ban certain types of firearm.

Blogger bramley April 12, 2020 7:16 AM  

@56

It's likely that most of the Greek Australians aren't trying to 'reutrn' due to the fact they would be pressed into mandatory military service immediately. I know of a case of that happening to a Greek passport holder from the UK. He was arrested by the MPs while there on holiday with his mum.

Blogger crescent wrench April 12, 2020 8:17 AM  

@59

I've always been mystified by MSM articles detailing this.

Most recent one I saw was from Brooklyn which had photo evidence of local hassidim felony-possessing and felony-open-carrying loaded AR's

The blue coastal authorities conspicuously ignore this when it's one of their rainbow coalition doing it. These laws exist only to be capriciously enforced against their political enemies, and the incompetent "conservative" apparatus, be they GOP or populist insurgents, fail to compile the public evidence and take it to the nominally "friendly" supreme court under "arbitrary and capricious", "equal protection", or "disparate impact".

Then again, it became clear these people were willful losers when they fielded Mitt "I made my money offshoring jobs" Romney during a stubbornly persistent recession.

Blogger bramley April 12, 2020 9:17 AM  

@61

In addition to my comment above, it should be noted that Tony Martin was initially sentenced to life imprisonment for murder, which on appeal was downgraded to manslaughter under extenuating circumstances. The prosecution in the original trial did a nice job of depicting him as a panting, rabid nutter who stayed up every night in wait for the one time the burglars would actually appear. The jury were apparently taken in by the perfidious case-making.

Blogger Clay April 12, 2020 9:23 AM  

Though I'm not a frequent visitor to pawn shops, I did stop in one a few weeks back. While perusing their gun selection, my eye fell on a Taurus .32 ACP. I never cared much for the .32 caliber, but the price was right, and I just grabbed it. That's a fun little gun to shoot.

Blogger Mr Smith April 12, 2020 2:41 PM  

I'd love to own a Colt 1903 in 32 acp. It would be awesome suppressed.

Blogger Mr Smith April 12, 2020 2:42 PM  

I hope all these new Democrat gun owners find out how F'ng loud guns really are and we can get suppressors off the GD NFA.

Blogger V April 12, 2020 3:10 PM  

Are you familiar with Alt Hype's work?

He did a video on something very similar, but based in the North Sea region:

https://youtu.be/P78Zd8265_k

Blogger michimartini April 12, 2020 5:29 PM  

If the dummy was in there to begin with but the bolt was not completely in the forward position therefore not grabbing the round and not ejecting it when the slide was racked after ejecting the mag.

Blogger Jack Amok April 13, 2020 12:42 AM  

If the dummy was in there to begin with but the bolt was not completely in the forward position therefore not grabbing the round and not ejecting it when the slide was racked after ejecting the mag.

Yes, fine, but then where did the round the friend caught come from? If the bolt wasn't forward, the extractor wouldn't grab and ejects the round, and there would be nothing for the friend to catch. If the bolt was forward so that the extractor could grab a round, where was the one still in the chamber afterwards hiding?

Blogger Unknownsailor April 13, 2020 3:17 AM  

The dummy was palmed into the ejection port. This is a fairly common thing to do when trying to cement home Rule #1 of firearms safety to exactly that sort of person: All guns are always loaded. Check every firearm you pick up. If a dealer hands you one with the slide locked back, visually and digitally check the chamber before you do anything else.

Blogger Avalanche April 13, 2020 10:23 AM  

@35 "They'll have a plan for each...and backup plans for when the first plan does not work."

"They" who?!? Do you see ANY plans in action? And *official actual governmental* preparations for this pandemic -- ANY different form the last 4-5?

Preppers and cognoscenti have plans, and preps -- but the govt and most folks? HA!

Blogger Canadian Warlord April 14, 2020 2:15 PM  

The interesting feature of all this to me, liberals and gun laws, is how focused on gun stores and the public's access through laws they have become.

Sure, a liberal might change his mind as the zombie hordes are swarming his suburban home. But would he consider the idea that modern firearms are just refined 19th century technology, here in the 21st century?

The average workshop in the west with a lathe and a drill press is plenty capable of gunsmithing. To say nothing of oddball ideas like rail guns.

There was a guy on YouTube years ago who made a pneumatic potato cannon that fired gasoline-filled bombs. He lit up entire hillsides in seconds. Accuracy schmaccuracy!

Hi ahead liberals - focus on the laws. Focus on ancient methods. Close all the gun stores - I dare you.

Blogger Johnny April 14, 2020 5:34 PM  

This post concerns me. Hopefully these liberals change their politics.

I've seen Leftists online pushing for other leftists to arm up and buy guns. Anecdotally it looks like the Left might finally be arming. Many right wingers seem complacent in their lead in gun ownership and their chances at winning a war.

Don't underestimate the enemy. As one of the pro-gun Leftists I read had said: "Arm yourselves. They certainly are."

Blogger Canadian Warlord April 14, 2020 6:45 PM  

A struggle between those fighting for their future and their families, and those fighting for no future, is no struggle at all.

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