Saturday, April 18, 2020

The antisemitic Deep State

Is it really "conspiracy theory" when both the President of the United States and the Prime Minister of Israel echo the warnings of past political leaders concerning a shadowy "deep state" pulling the strings from behind the scenes?
People who met with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in recent months have heard lengthy speeches that seemed to be taken from one of Oliver Stone’s conspiracist screenplays. He told them that even though he has been elected repeatedly, in reality, the country is controlled by a “deep state.”

“There’s no democracy here, but a government of bureaucrats and jurists,” he said. The strings of this shadow government are ostensibly pulled by the prosecution, which Netanyahu views as more dangerous than Hezbollah’s precision missiles. Prosecutors and judges, he believes, have a symbiotic relationship whose goal is ousting him.


Blogger Balkan Yankee April 18, 2020 11:06 AM  

"Conspiracy fact" is more like it.

Blogger pyrrhus April 18, 2020 11:07 AM  

Bibi is a warrior, former commando whose brother was killed in the Entebbe raid, so naturally the priestly caste, which is made up of academia, the media, and lawyers, hates him...And in Israel, like the US, the priestly caste has acquired supreme power through the courts.....Neither country can long survive rule by the priesthood, which gets crazier and more dis-civilizational every day.

Blogger Canadian Warlord April 18, 2020 11:19 AM  

2006, this small country had reservists marching on the streets in huge numbers. Was it over 100,000? To protest the disastrous Lebanon adventure. That many armed citizens can shake things up fast, politically speaking.

The parasites that sit stop that structure noticed. And they better be scared. The Israeli people are the most dangerous of the Israeli government's long list of enemies.

Blogger Jamie-R April 18, 2020 11:24 AM  

Israel is in a tight spot, you've got the proxies of the British Crown styling themselves as their own Jewish Royalty that established the state, they don't want Israel picking the American side. Gonna be interesting, it very much seems to me like the times between 1775 and 1781, the pre & post election insurance underway is much more effective, the Generals have quite the silent war on their hands, apart from Netanyahu and a few other men Israel is hanging on for a peoples that have so many that are the sorts of pricks that comprise the enemies of truth and liberty.

I'm just going with the same narrative, it's the Crown that runs 54 sovereign nations and has 2.4 billion people in its orbit vs Trump, the Generals, and a few believers in the promise of truth, justice and the American Way. As an aside, Cornwallis should've beaten Washington, he was his equal, but Henry Clinton, the sort of back-scratching nepotistic stuff that Royal rule is known for, screwed a remarkable man on the battlefield with bad decisions and allowed Washington and his French allies to fulfill the charter of Independence. Ironic, was it not, that the poor workings of Royal rule deployed to North America allowed the American system to come into prominence.

Blogger Brett baker April 18, 2020 11:29 AM  

"But muh Palestinians!"
More seriously, same s***, different countries.

Blogger Shane Bradman April 18, 2020 11:31 AM  

A lot more than the left wing elites hate Netanyahu. He's an impressively corrupt warmonger. Netanyahu is the deep state, just a different faction of it.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia April 18, 2020 11:32 AM  

I know some very sensible Israelis who say the dumbest decision Bibi ever made was marrying his second wife, Sara, who by all accounts brings new meaning to the word "harpy."

She's the one the "deep state" is using in part as leverage to shunt Bibi to the sidelines.

Blogger Crew April 18, 2020 11:40 AM  

@6: Yes, it's always different factions of the elites warring against each other.

Blogger Crew April 18, 2020 11:49 AM  

Given the corruption of parts of the Judiciary and the historic infiltration of the Judiciary by (((certain))) elements, maybe it is true.

Blogger tublecane April 18, 2020 12:43 PM  

Typical of the hyperbole of discussion around the Deep State, we must invoke the name of Oliver Stone to talk about prosecutors and judges collaborating to oust Bibi from power. Which is not exactly like Military Industrial Complex hiring a former exile to the Soviet Union to snipe the sitting president.

Rather, it's the sort of thing I'd expect bureaucrats to get together to do. It's exactly what they've done here in the U.S. Usually without need for collaboration because they are of one mind and move like a school of fish.

This Deep State versus democracy (meaning simply elected officialdom) thing is at the heart of politics as we play them. It's not some weird conspiracy theory. When a man like Trump or apparently Bibi gets elected and the Permanent Government doesn't like it, they don't sit on the hands. They don't respect the democratic process. They fight back.

There is no one way to fight back. Could be they drag their feet. Could also be the launch a violent coup. But whatever they do, they'd probably call it "democracy" because that's their word for good government. However, if they are winning, Bibi's right, "There's no democracy here."

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 18, 2020 12:47 PM  

A true anti-semite would send most of the American Jewry to live in an Israeli state, but we are stuck with Trump and so dreams cannot come true.

Blogger Eduardo April 18, 2020 1:06 PM  

Too many conspiracies, not enough theories.

Blogger Cyrus April 18, 2020 1:20 PM  

Explains why he and Obama hated each other.

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 18, 2020 1:45 PM  

I don't know who's jewing who

Blogger TMLutas April 18, 2020 3:53 PM  

For my amusement, I decided to test whether "Deep state in the United States" on Wikipedia is an article that has politically motivated campers on it. Of course it does.

So I'm amusing myself by very carefully following the rules and forcing the campers to be ridiculous. After the RfC predictably ends up in no consensus labeled as consensus to not include recognition in the lead that some theories of the deep state are not conspiracy theories, I'll move on to other weaknesses in the article that they won't like fixing.

The Infogalactic and Wikipedia pages have significantly drifted apart with Infogalactic now just being a redirect to a different page, "the shadow party" covering the same subject. I think Wikipedia is correct to keep the more encyclopedic deep state in the United States but the page itself is biased dreck at the moment.

Blogger Jeroth April 18, 2020 4:00 PM  

Bibi served prime minister Abe desert in a shoe, on a table, shaped like dog crap. That's all I need to know about that disgusting goblin. He's also been in government forever. If he has a deep state after him, it's more akin to inter-demon squabbling than anything Trump has to deal with.

Blogger Gen. Kong April 18, 2020 7:10 PM  

I don't trust Netanyahu in any way since those who worship the devil are hardly trustworthy. Criminals routinely turn upon one another. That being said, Anonymous Conservative's theory is that he's been turned by the white hats in their war against DS. Supposedly, his assignment from DS a few years ago (ca.2015) was to flood Europe with Africans. He refused to do it so they had to use Arch-Devil Soros and all his NGOs for the job instead. Bibi's legal troubles commenced when he failed to carry out this order. Note there are some of AC's regulars who seriously question this theory. I'll put it out there with the caveat that the theory plus 5 dollars might even buy you a cup of swill at Starschmucks if you're lucky.

Blogger Uncle John's Band April 18, 2020 7:23 PM  

This one could have come with a trigger warning.

More seriously, I always though binary thinking was an annoying but innocent cognitive deficiency. Exposure to idiot shills like Mark S have made it apparent that it's also a big part of false narrative creation.

It's a formula - some rhetorically charged blather unrelated to the actual post, followed by infantile false binaries masquerading as "critique". Just not a very convincing one.

Though I'm open to the small possibility that he's just that stupid, so here's a pro tip: the deep state is global.

Blogger Mathias April 18, 2020 7:46 PM  

Mark S,

I believe the joke here is that if the Deep State is antisemitic, it's because Jews are self-loathing.

Blogger VD April 18, 2020 8:12 PM  

You're banned, Mark S.

Blogger Azimus April 18, 2020 11:14 PM  

The world will be a safer place with Bibi out of the game, the guy is a warmonger.

Blogger Jamie-R April 19, 2020 3:11 AM  

For people that say conspiracy, go back through history, look at who was in charge, do you really think a lot has changed over the last 400 years? The American system constantly requires vigilance, because the default is (a sort of, or direct) Royal rule, in Europe it has been that way for at least 1000 years and no one does enough to change it permanently. Any disposing of one Royal Family only empowers another. Among the major colonial powers, the Spanish, the French & the British have been at loggerheads but the British have reigned supreme. The Freemasons are a (mainly) British network, the Templars are a Spanish one (Catholic enablers). MI6 set up the CIA. Rothschilds (as proxies of Britain) set up the Federal Reserve. It's not hard to draw lines in the sand and see how this works. I used to laugh when I'd see Blair in your congress apologising for burning down the library of congress, or the White House, but guess what, they did do it and those behind it still don't like what America is about. Think about it, Queen Elizabeth II, the system represented by her, is America's #1 enemy. Not the jews, a scumbag wealthy minority can only attach to a strong man and they do.

America has had so many traitors and many are still hard at work, I would like to see some removed, not just McCain and GHW Bush.

Blogger Johnny April 20, 2020 6:30 PM  


"The problems we've been facing since a (((certain tribe))) seized power in the 20th Century are actually caused by British boogeymen from the 17th Century who're fighting with Knights from the Crusades."

The Royal Family can't even keep Meghan Markle in line. Not all conspiracy theories are created equal. This one is just wrong and likely misdirection.

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