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Friday, May 29, 2020

The inevitable end

Apparently 2VS has finally gotten around to turning on Comicsgate:
Vox Day opened up an imprint to allow small creators to use his printer discount on behalf of #ComicsGate, something that would have helped take the burden of production off of the smallest indie creators and help flourish a stronger and more united independent community. Knowing that Ethan Van Sciver had done everything he could to jump on the #ComicsGate brand, Vox ran the idea by Ethan in email to make sure Ethan was on board, and Ethan said yes.

It looked like a dawn of a new day for indie comics.

Until Ethan manipulated the situation into a power play to control the few fans under his umbrella.

In a move completely the opposite as he’d been telling Vox, Ethan took to his show and put Vox Day on blast, and his rabid, angry, outrage-prone fans went and brigaded Vox Day as a result.

Instead of getting great printer discounts, Vox was character assassinated. Anyone who called him friend got the same treatment. Ethan and his fans started becoming just like the SJWs they claimed to despise — screeching “alt right racist” at me and others in an attempt to character assassinate and destroy anyone who didn’t go along with their narrative.

All because Vox wanted to help out some small indie creators.
Just to be clear, I don't care in the slightest about 2VS or Comicsgate. I have very little against them and even less for them. Contra the narrative they both tried to push, I was never interested in owning, controlling, or even having anything whatsoever to do with Comicsgate. I only got involved, for about a week, as it happens, in support of an erstwhile Dark Legion creator, which turned out to be both a stupid mistake and a significant learning opportunity.

The moral of the story: stay away, stay very far away, from the drama that inevitably accompanies narcissistic attention-seekers. In fact, the reason I no longer speak in public to anyone except Castalia authors and UATV creators owes as much to the Comicsgate kerfuffle as it does to the Wired and NPR hit pieces and the Fuentes fiasco.

I neither need nor desire drama, and I'm simply not at all interested in creating it for those who do. I do, of course, find it mildly amusing to observe 2VS showing his second face to his erstwhile supporters.

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17 Comments:

Blogger Avalanche May 29, 2020 2:42 PM  

Bravo Jon!

Blogger L'Aristokrato May 29, 2020 4:13 PM  

I know Vox is friendly, if not friends, with Jon. However, I'd take anything Mr. Del Arroz says on this subject with a hefty pinch of salt.
I don't know what Ethan/Comicsgate is doing, since I've never followed any of them, so I won't defend them.
I did use to follow Jon's Youtube channel, however, until it became a non-stop torrent of him taking passive-aggressive, concern-troll jabs at the EVS/CG crowd. It is obvious he was desperate to be part of what he considered to be the "cool kids club", but he was rejected, whether justifiably or not, and he simply cannot let it go. It's to a point he became besties with a guy who does interracial cuckold porn(yes, really), simply because of their mutual hatred for CG.
Personally I'd washed my hand of the entire affair and walked away, hoping to never hear of it again, until I saw this post. Maybe the whole thing is falling apart, maybe its not. I don't know. But JDA's perspective on the subject is certainly not an objective one.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 29, 2020 4:37 PM  

The meta lesson here is that fighting the forces of evil who are trying to collapse society using actual members of the society that has been collapsed - meaning: narcissists, the broken, gammas, and spergs - is already doomed to fail.
A cadre or remnant of those who have risen above is needed.

Blogger Bogey May 29, 2020 5:28 PM  

2VS had a falling out with #WarCampaign. #WarCampaign is led by that idiot Ro Kabir Kumar
and some dude who is about to go to trial for cyber stalking.

First Ro turned on Jon Malin than...........never mind who cares? I'm starting to just think they really are just a bunch of man babies.



Blogger Snidely Whiplash May 29, 2020 5:40 PM  

L'Aristokrato wrote:Personally I'd washed my hand of the entire affair and walked away, hoping to never hear of it again, until I saw this post. Maybe the whole thing is falling apart, maybe its not. I don't know. But JDA's perspective on the subject is certainly not an objective one.
How nice for you. Neutrality is a luxury good, one he cannot afford. Jon makes his entire living selling books. These useless fat fucks have been trying for over a year to ruin him. Just like the Lefties they pretend to despise while earnestly sucking up to have been doing for even longer.

Jon does not let up because these useless gamma monstrosities don't let up. To this day they look for every opportunity to impact his distribution and sales. Every Single F'ing Day.


When someone attacks you, especially when they attack you personally in a way intended to impact your ability to support yourself, you counter attack. And you don't let up until the opponent bends the knee or dies.

Blogger lowercaseb May 29, 2020 5:47 PM  

L'Aristokrato wrote:However, I'd take anything Mr. Del Arroz says on this subject with a hefty pinch of salt.

Your concern is noted. Jon fights...you sit on the sidelines and snipe.

Blogger R Webfoot May 29, 2020 5:50 PM  

'It is obvious he was desperate to be part of what he considered to be the "cool kids club", but he was rejected, whether justifiably or not, and he simply cannot let it go.'

You know the same morons say that about Vox, right? Why did you think we would care about your cuckish opinion?

Blogger Apathy Is Death May 29, 2020 5:54 PM  

I don't know what Ethan/Comicsgate is doing, since I've never followed any of them, so I won't defend them.

You are a liar.

Blogger Jon D. May 29, 2020 6:54 PM  

@2 -- You sure know intimate details of everyone involved for "not following" and wrote a wall of text! Sad!

Blogger VFM Bear May 29, 2020 7:23 PM  

My antivirus didn't want me to go to Jon's site from the link here so I let him know on SG. He told me he was just subjected to a mass flagging. Or more appropriately, considering the likely suspects, a mass fagging.

Where were you earlier today L'Aristokrato?

Blogger Yossarian May 29, 2020 8:13 PM  

Andy "The Retarded Pheonix" Warski did a stream on Ethan. If that guy figured out 2VS was a snake then pretty much everyone else did too. But he still has an audience and comic book artists aren't known for for having straight spines. In hopes for fancies and lollies they will dance and sing to his tune.

Blogger Gallant May 29, 2020 9:18 PM  

What's daft is that for the blacklisting SJWs he's still the devil, I've seen them rant about him quite recently. Only rational thing is he sees the 'not SJW' thing as a finite commercial space, and is scrabbling to dominate his portion of it via the same techniques as those who booted him from mainstream comics used.

Blogger OvergrownHobbit May 29, 2020 11:34 PM  

As I have said before, it is not what Vox Day says that twists your knickers; it is what Mr. Beale does. Which is to build up, build over, and build around.

Vive Castalia!
Make Ours Arkhaven,
And God Bless Unauthorized (D.V.)

Blogger Bogey May 30, 2020 7:17 AM  

@2 I did use to follow Jon's Youtube channel, however, until it became a non-stop torrent of him taking passive-aggressive, concern-troll jabs at the EVS/CG crowd.


Those jabs make me laugh, and frankly I think even Ethan would laugh at them.

Blogger Worlds Edge May 30, 2020 9:00 AM  

We shall see, but I don't think Jon is correct. #WarCampaign was chasing away a lot of "normies" who while not in favor of the way the Big 2 are acting are not exactly crazy about some of the more, well, extreme actions linked to WC, fairly or unfairly. Whether this sort will filter back is currently unknown, but it wouldn't surprise me.

I think this was coming soon no matter what, this sort of Rohm Putsch fueled by rainbow sex toy memes or whatever other vile stuff pumped out from people I instantly block on Twitter.

To mix wars/metaphors if it had not been some objectively awful artwork generating $50K in Simpbux as the Gavrilo Princip here, it would have been something else.

Blogger matveidaniilovich May 30, 2020 3:40 PM  

Jon is much more of a social creature than Vox, so he’s more willing to engage w/ people. I know he’d work with any of these jokers if they’d stop their foolishness.

Blogger Apathy Is Death May 30, 2020 4:11 PM  

I did use to follow Jon's Youtube channel, however, until it became a non-stop torrent of him taking passive-aggressive, concern-troll jabs at the EVS/CG crowd.

Those jabs make me laugh, and frankly I think even Ethan would laugh at them.


You are projecting. The only one being passive-aggressive here is you.

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