Tuesday, June 30, 2020

Jordan triples down

He totally did go without sleep for 25 days. Because studies. An interview with Jordan Peterson by Mikhaela Peterson:
JP: I couldn't stand up without fainting. I couldn't sleep. I don't think I slept at all for for something on the in the order of three weeks.

MP: Yeah, people like you went on Joe Rogan and talked about this Sulfite reaction you had and how you didn't sleep and people commented that, oh, it's not possible to stay awake for that long. But if you actually look into sodium metabolic sulfide allergies, The symptoms that we experienced aren't unheard of, there are papers.

JP: It's also impossible to stay awake voluntarily that long. That's not the same as not being able to sleep. Those are very, very different things, whatever. It's possible that when I was laying there thinking I wasn't sleeping, that now and then I drifted off and would wake up and not notice. I mean, I can't eliminate that as a possibility. But I can certainly tell you that I slept little enough so that it was exceedingly unpleasant. It's a very long time to stay awake.
Liars always resort to redefinitions as soon as they are caught and called out. And Jordan Peterson appears to be a seriously pathological liar. To this day, he still can't admit that he was simply talking nonsense on Joe Rogan.

He just can't do it.

And it definitely, definitely, wasn't meth.



Blogger thechortling June 30, 2020 3:12 PM  

weird that she never shouts at him, "My eyes are up here, dad!!!"

Frickin' weird family that does boobycasts.

Blogger Stilicho June 30, 2020 3:15 PM  

Those are the most coherent statements i've ever seen JP make.

Blogger Jose Miguel June 30, 2020 3:17 PM  

I will drink a cider in his honor every time he defends his sleeplessness publicly. Preferably with lobster, but today skirt steak must suffice.

Blogger Terrific June 30, 2020 3:18 PM  

I used to think I sometimes had trouble sleeping until I began to listen to "Great Professors" lectures with my earbuds. My challenge was that I would dream I was awake in bed, worrying about my issues, dreaming I couldn't sleep. It was never any kind of pathology like Peterson is dramatizing. It was just annoying to wake up and believe I hadn't gotten enough sleep.

When I began listening to lectures I would come back to consciousness, thinking I hadn't slept any and realize the course was now on lecture 7 instead of 3! To this day it still happens and the audio helps me keep track of my actual sleep amount.

Last night I was listening to a ST-OS on Netflix (The Menagerie) and fell asleep during the opening credits. Next thing I was thinking was, "Man, I wish I could fall asleep," when I realized the episode was over! I'm just glad I stumbled on this method. Otherwise I'd be annoying everyone with, "Man, I did NOT sleep well last night! No matter what I did, I just could NOT get to sleep."

Blogger Dole June 30, 2020 3:28 PM  

Of all the lies Peterstein has told, he insists on doubling down on the most egregious one?

Blogger Daniel June 30, 2020 3:35 PM  

Just do your damn drugs, lobster.

Blogger Jeroth June 30, 2020 3:42 PM  

He could have so easily just said he was being hyperbolic to liven up the story. No one would have even cared.

Blogger Newscaper312 June 30, 2020 3:50 PM  

It's so funny because how hard was it to simply say "hardly got any sleep" or "slept like shit" for 25 days. Worked a senior staff engineer we otherwise liked who made us cringe at times because he couldn't resist spewing some BS to others in org whenowhen did really know what he was talking about, w nothing to hide or prove. It didn't come across as a one upper, but almost as daring people to comment.
Ancient history, longest I ever went wo sleeping was about 100 hours w one 3hr nap. Freshman year in college when foolishly got behind w end of semester project deadlines. About killed me, when I was young and in good shape, so 25 days is hilarious. Did not procrastinate that badly again.

Blogger Xellos June 30, 2020 3:54 PM  

I don't think he believes he's lying. It was real in his mind.

Blogger Yossarian June 30, 2020 3:54 PM  

That was one uncomfortable interview.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 30, 2020 4:09 PM  

I didn't sleep for over 3 weeks, but I might have.

Good grief.

Blogger Weak June 30, 2020 4:12 PM  

Can you go without sleeping for 25 days on meth? I heard some crazy stories from my grandfather about soldiers on Benzedrine in the war. So...maybe?

Blogger SemiSpook37 June 30, 2020 4:23 PM  

Well, if this doesn't result in some sort of psychotic break, I'm going to be extremely disappointed.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer June 30, 2020 4:30 PM  

It is more likely that Peterson will grow wings and fly from Canada to England than he stayed awake for 25 days straight. When I was in the army we had the occasional training (simulated combat) where you had to go three days with minimal sleep, perhaps an hour or two per day, and at the end of that you started to have aural hallucinations. If you go too long without sleep you start to become psychotic. The longest reported period of a person going without sleep is eleven days.

Blogger Seth S June 30, 2020 4:40 PM  

I worked 23 hours a day for 6 consequetive days on an oil rig when my day shift guy got fired. I was like a zombie by day 4.

Blogger Br1cht June 30, 2020 5:04 PM  

Another scull for SDL´s throne.

Jordanetics really broke him, "for reals" as the intercity youth says.

Blogger Nostromo June 30, 2020 5:06 PM  

What color are baby Petersons eyes? Pink with brown pupils? Either way, would. Until she started talking.

Blogger Azimus June 30, 2020 5:39 PM  

I was always upset that he ate his good looking cousin.

Blogger Heretic Hymnal June 30, 2020 5:46 PM  

Definitely not meth

Blogger Iskander Magnus June 30, 2020 6:01 PM  

Could Vox have saved the life of tragic Belfast Teenager, Noah Donohoe? (rhetorical question).
This 14 yr old went missing for some days : he vanished on 21st June after
‘falling off bike & hitting head before riding away naked’ (Sun newspaper headline)
Searching was intense for several days before his body was found in a storm drain on 27th June.
Amongst the items reported as discovered (26-6-2020) a in his abandoned khaki rucksack
(found by a member of the public) was a
Lenovo Laptop, and a copy of the book 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson. This was publicised as offering
detectives an important line of inquiry.
Much predictable media coverage of lamentation in Northern Ireland about this event.
His mother Fiona hails from Strabane, Co. Tyrone.
Of his father nothing is mentioned. He is (from the photos) evidently mixed race, like BHO.

I can’t help wondering whether his life might have saved and put on a sound footing if he had been given a
copy of Jordanetics ? For a 14 year old boy to be led on a “journey into the mind of
Humanity’s Greatest Thinker” would surely have been transformative, and life-changing.
Let’s promote “Jordanetics” and save youthful lives, including Black Lives that Matter, like this unfortunate
“Irish” teenager.

Blogger Nihil Dicit June 30, 2020 6:02 PM  

Can you go without sleeping for 25 days on meth? I heard some crazy stories from my grandfather about soldiers on Benzedrine in the war. So...maybe?

Many of the troops at Dien Bien Phu went longer than that, thanks to Maxiton. Of course, more than a few also dropped dead 'without visible cause' so there are some drawbacks.

Blogger stevo June 30, 2020 6:10 PM  

I feel like an idiot for being a huge fan of his for a while. He obviously has a talent for persuasion. But seeing him trying to get back into the limelight is so obviously retarded that once again I feel like an idiot for ever liking him.

Blogger tublecane June 30, 2020 6:27 PM  

However crazy the Petersons père and fille may be, the comment section gives them a run for their money. One compares Jordy to Gandalf after his battle against the Balrog. He returns to us as Peterson the White. Or, in today's culture, I guess he'd rather be Brotha Peterson.

The daughter is a thoroughly unremarkable person. Near as I can tell she exists to occasionally post pictures of her body in too much makeup as a demonstration of crackpot diet notions. I want to feel sympathy for a girl who grew up with a Messianic (in his own head) father, portraits of V.I. Lenin looming over her, and the pill regimen of a 75 year-old. But she's not interesting enough for me to care.

Blogger phunktor June 30, 2020 6:32 PM  

WASF:massive metaignorance's ALL unknown unknowns!

Blogger Shane Bradman June 30, 2020 6:37 PM  

Peterson is one of those kooks that believes reality exists in his mind.

Blogger Noah B. June 30, 2020 6:56 PM  

Jordy reminds me of people I've known who have done way too much LSD over the years.

Blogger Newscaper312 June 30, 2020 7:07 PM  

Good Lord I had a brainfart up above that was practically Petersonian, mixing a comment to the One Upper post in with one here about the no sleep nonsense.

Blogger Section 8A June 30, 2020 7:15 PM  

I haven't slept a wink for 25 YEARS! Put that in your pipe in smoke it eh Peterson?!

Blogger Unknown June 30, 2020 7:21 PM  

I've been listening too the video.

Jordan goes on a 30 min rant about his experiences over the last several months and how terrible they are, how he forgot how to lie down in bed and had to get a nurse to help him, couldn't see the stairs, was deluded with his friends and family, was hallucinating etc etc.

And then he says hes been writing a book throughout this whole process, and his going to come out in the middle of July.


How can you be simultaneously dealing with *definitely not meth* and write a cohesive book.

Looks like a New York best seller to me...

Jordan Peterson's new book "25 Tips for staying awake 25 days in a row"

Blogger rikjames.313 June 30, 2020 7:29 PM  

Weak wrote:Can you go without sleeping for 25 days on meth? I heard some crazy stories from my grandfather about soldiers on Benzedrine in the war. So...maybe?

Young guys in great shape in the Army/Marine Corps can do 3-4 days with 2 hours a night at NTC/CAX. They can't fly at all, and operating vehicles and arty is risky.

During the invasion and march up in Iraq the military passed out a lot of benzos but after a week of 2-3 hours sleep a day they are crashing so hard they are worthless until they get long sleep

Blogger Reader June 30, 2020 7:47 PM  

The man is devolving into caricature of himself.

Blogger Joe Smith June 30, 2020 8:43 PM  

How can you be simultaneously dealing with *definitely not meth* and write a cohesive book.

If it's incoherent, it'd be the same in that sense as his other two. So... par for the course.

Blogger Dangeresque June 30, 2020 8:52 PM  

Fast forward to the 13 minute mark. These two really know their whips...

Blogger Boomer55 June 30, 2020 9:21 PM  

He (being a psych) would be the first to admit, if he was honest, that he may have had meth induced schizophrenia, which is medical fancy talk for "crazy." It's a serious medical condition that shouldn't warrant lies.

Blogger tuberman June 30, 2020 9:38 PM  

It amazes me, but it shouldn't, that he still has his 'true-believers.'

Blogger Fozzy Bear June 30, 2020 9:51 PM  

There’s a meth habit, then there’s a meth habit so deep and so prolonged that you end up in a medically-induced coma in an unregistered Russian clinic. That has to be at least an order of magnitude above a normal habit.

On the sleep thing, my Dad manned the bridge of a freighter for 96 hours during a typhoon, said it was the worst experience of his life, and the lack of sleep was worse than the storm and constant risk of death.

Blogger Darren June 30, 2020 10:14 PM  

Jordan "exceedingly unpleasant" Peterson.

PS: Did somebody send VD the transcript to this ... *video*?

Blogger Didas Kalos June 30, 2020 10:15 PM  

i'm with Noah. JP has done LSD or mushrooms one too many times.
OTH, in a sane world Vox would never have had to have taken the time to slay this fool.

Blogger Darren June 30, 2020 10:29 PM  

I live in Edmonton. And here I paid to see JBP speak live.

No joke, the audience reception was, like, "Home Town Hero". Serious rockstar adoration.

Luckily each of us -- if humble heart and open mind -- can learn and grow, letting go and moving on... TBH it's practically a divine miracle the meandering journey I've been on -- finding VD and VP and settling in, I am grateful fbutor sure but still no idea how exactly I ended up here (after occasionally reading his column in WND oh so long ago).

So much emotionally-stirring but empty snake oil, many of us have stories of being suckered and led astray; I try not to think how many hours I wasted being lied to by The Daily Show and John Oliver etc... but, again, we learn and move on from foolishness once made aware. The alternative is to be NPC drones stuck in cognitive dissonance hell.

Blogger Akulkis June 30, 2020 11:31 PM  

>> OTH, in a sane world Vox would never have had to have taken the time to slay this fool.

In a sane world, there never would have been a need for someone like Vox to take the time to slay this fool.

Blogger Thomas Howard June 30, 2020 11:54 PM  

This level of obsession is unhealthy and clinically diagnosable.

Blogger Shield up sword swinging pipes blasting July 01, 2020 1:00 AM  

Maybe it isn't meth but ethanol?

Blogger doctrev July 01, 2020 3:41 AM  

At this point, I think calling it drug addiction misses the point. The man is suffering from outright demonic possession of his mind, at best. At worst- well, we laugh at fictional characters who attend talk shows featuring the Joker, yet people actually pay money to watch Jordan Peterson. I'd pay money to stay away.

Blogger Unknown July 01, 2020 5:15 AM  

I was genuinely curious to hear what he had to say after all this time but I can NOT listen to this guy go on and on with his "approximations" of whatever meth induced hallucination he is referring to at that point as he stares at his daughters chest.

Blogger Bearable Pain July 01, 2020 6:20 AM  

It depends on what you mean by words or meaning or sleep, or time, or meth or the Arabs stealing Abraham's wife... It all depends, is all Jordan is saying...

Blogger MaskettaMan July 01, 2020 6:31 AM  

Wow what a loser hahahahaha

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira July 01, 2020 7:14 AM  

25 days me hole.

In the army, 5 days without sleep was nearly impossible. Yet I never questioned whether or not I had fallen asleep standing. We were conscious enough to deploy and fire 155mm howitzers all day.

The only people who can even attempt to stay up past 5 days, are METH-HEADS.

Blogger Dan in Georgia July 01, 2020 7:32 AM  

I wish I’d never heard the man’s voice. Now, when I read quotes from him, it’s like he’s right there with me panhandling for “money so that I can get back home and visit my child in the hospital, eh?”. He sounds like every bum I’ve ever encountered, making up a story when we both know it’s just for money for booze.

Blogger Autarky Bear July 01, 2020 9:24 AM  

This is what liers must do. They must spin things as much as possible or tell the truth. It eats them alive if they don't do something to lessen the guilt and shame they feel.

But unfortunately for them when they deny reality enough times, it only hits harder as time goes on. Once again Vox thank you a million for exposing this fraud. I was caught by his madness, but got out because you spoke the truth.

Blogger Canadian Warlord July 01, 2020 9:53 AM  

Meth use makes you crash pretty hard, eventually. The US army Air Force didn't need 25 day sorties. 2-3 days is lots, the body eventually throws in the towel.

Too bad that red state trailer dwellers with the same problem, can't afford to travel to Russia for rehab. They end up in jail instead. Maybe they should switch tactics and get jobs at universities! I think I'd rather hear what they saw in their 'bag of visions,' than anything out of Harvard these days.

Blogger Tars Tarkas July 01, 2020 10:27 AM  

When I was young I would sometime spend a Friday night up playing games with friends and it would go into the next day. By the time you reach about 30 hours, you are just useless. I don't even think I ever made it until Sat night at 11:00. From Friday morning at 6 to Sat night at 11 was just too long and that was for a young guy. Then you have to make up at least 1/2 of the missed sleep.

Blogger Unknown July 01, 2020 11:14 AM  

@51. I've done the same, was up 30 hours and I was completely deluded. I just had to quit my game and go to bed regardless of what time it was.

Blogger Akulkis July 01, 2020 1:56 PM  

>> In the army, 5 days without sleep was nearly impossible. Yet I never questioned whether or not I had fallen asleep standing. We were conscious enough to deploy and fire 155mm howitzers all day.

As someone (of many, I'm sure) who has fallen asleep while on a ruck march -- sounds legit.

Blogger Akulkis July 01, 2020 2:00 PM  

>> Now, when I read quotes from him, it’s like he’s right there with me panhandling for “money so that I can get back home and visit my child in the hospital, eh?”. He sounds like every bum I’ve ever encountered, making up a story when we both know it’s just for money for booze.

I used to work in the financial district in Detroit. Every day, while walking to some restaurant to another, various panhandlers would ask me for "a dollar for lunch." My response was always the same: "Screw that. I'm going to lunch right now. You want to eat, come with me. Lunch is on me."

In the year that I worked there, only 2 took me up on it.

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