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Saturday, June 27, 2020

SF creeps are creepy

Yet more sex-related scandals in the freaky world of science fiction:
Over the last 48 hours or so, the science fiction and fantasy literature field has been rocked by multiple accusations of multiple authors of improper behaviour, abuse, gaslighting, racism, misogyny, sexual coercion and authors using their platforms to engage in dogpiling and bullying.

The number of accusations has been almost overwhelming. Genre Grapevine is currently running a list of the allegations where the facts of the matter are not in dispute. Authors Paul Krueger, Myke Cole and Sam Sykes have been accused of inappropriate behaviour (Cole has subsequently been dropped by his publisher and agent, and Krueger by his agent) and others of enabling that behaviour.
It's the exact opposite of "shocking" to be informed that a field that lionizes convicted and admitted pedophiles and celebrates its sexual freaks is rife with creeps. Like, you know, our old pal McRapey, who has a pain in his tummy over the possibility of his own peccadilloes coming to light.
My friends fucked up. Not accidentally, to be clear. They made choices.

They are responsible for their wholly intentional fuck ups.

Also, I am responsible for my fuck-ups in relation to them — to what extent my friendship implies complicity with their actions, or provides cover, or has allowed me to overlook things I should have been paying attention to, or has allowed me to excuse what they were doing. This is one reason I feel like I have a small ulcer at the moment; the gnawing feeling in my gut that wonders how much of their fuck ups are at my door. In some cases, not much! In others: well, more.

(You should also know right now I definitely have that exasperated part of me that is all, like, look, I haven’t been in the same room as this guy for a couple of years! I don’t have a body cam on him! I don’t see every goddamned thing he does as he does it and to whom he does it! My brain is very full of defensive frustrated whining right now! Which is also a thing I have to work through.)

(And while I’m at it, I’m going through my own interactions with people, especially women, at conventions and other places where it turns out the power differential slides toward me. I can admit that this power differential wasn’t something I truly clued into for a while — I think it took being SFWA President to get it drilled into my head, because that was a big fuckin’ neon sign, wasn’t it — but it was there fairly early, so, uhhh, yeah. I’ve seen people commenting “well, at least we still have Scalzi,” and there’s part of my brain going, oh, man, I sure hope you do! But I also know that I have fucked up before in other places where I didn’t understand my power (see: RaceFail, now a decade back), and because of that what I did or said hurt people. That’s also a thing.)

So, yeah, I have to sit with and work through all of that.
It's delightful to be able to state that I have absolutely no connection with any of these awful people on either side. And I can't say that my own tummy hurts from laughing so hard, because I'm not really the laugh-out-loud type. But I may have smiled.

UPDATE: If, like me, you have no idea what the latest tempest in the freakshow teapot is about, it apparently is related to this:
In last night’s episode of The Horror Show With Brian Keene, he said the show’s team was aware of 10 cases of allegations involving everything from sexual coercion to sexual assault that have been made “against ten different individuals in the comic book, horror, science fiction, book-selling, convention organizer, and cosplay sectors of our industry — all of which had publicly come to light in the last 7 days.” When Keene followed up the podcast today with a public Patreon post, “Behind Closed Doors”, he said the number is up to 17.
The soyboys are finally beginning to understand why the men's club was necessary, even by their idiotic equalitarian standards. It's fine to decry the creeps and all, and I have no doubt that most of them did what they are accused of and more, but the fact is that there has been a lot of significant art created by very flawed men. I am dubious that all of the art, science, and technology created by sub-Alpha males and good Christian married men can be adequately replaced by female creators.

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85 Comments:

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 27, 2020 5:38 AM  

Women's Health Mag website lists 7 side effects of Adderall. I'd say this spiel indicates 3 at least. Besides of course the self-evident rambly speedy nature of the diatribe...

Blogger Warren C. Bennett June 27, 2020 5:52 AM  

I have no idea who any of these people are. I guess that's a good thing- I've been warning people for awhile not to take kids to genre conventions, despite loving genre fiction.

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 27, 2020 5:53 AM  

"It should go without saying that these allegations are deeply disturbing and the end result is hopefully a more inclusive and safer space for all people in SFF fandom."

That'll solve things! Open the doors to more degenerates.

And what the hell is "bathroom policing?"

Blogger Brett baker June 27, 2020 5:56 AM  

I was amused by all the "trans" references, myself.

Blogger Warren C. Bennett June 27, 2020 6:09 AM  

Edit: I know McRapey, but that is it. I guess I tend to read so called fringe authors and such now...

Blogger Nihil Dicit June 27, 2020 6:13 AM  

McRapey must get a bulk discount on pallets of parentheses.

The comments there are like a group therapy session for habitual sexual offenders.

Blogger nswhorse June 27, 2020 6:14 AM  

Can someone please break into Scalzi's house and steal all the bracket/parentheses keys off his keyboards?

Blogger Troushers June 27, 2020 6:24 AM  

Scalzi's stomach pain is probably from his wife's punitive gut-punching after he burnt dinner for her and her boyfriend, again.

Blogger borsabil June 27, 2020 7:06 AM  

A complete list of the accusations are here

https://www.patreon.com/posts/genre-grapevine-38610062

Profuse apologies and struggle sessions on twitter for the accused. This seems to be more a social media pile on that an orchestrated twitter campaign, but who knows? The allegations range from making inappropriate comments to getting grabby, no actual rape rape, yet.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 27, 2020 7:11 AM  

And the Sad Puppies were going to save this sh*t show? So we on the Right allow our women and womanish men to virtue signal and preen about principles and stuff, and who ends up holding this bag of farts? Us, and this should be illustrative of the dangers of White Knighting for such fools.

Thank you Rabid Puppies, thank you.

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 7:15 AM  

Yes judge, 'it' raped me.

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 7:16 AM  

If someone is all alone in the woods, and they get raped... did it really happen?

Blogger JC June 27, 2020 7:27 AM  

So if you trap yourself in this world, you are compelled to publicly condemn any accusation made by a woman or claiming to be a woman? At the same time you tweet these things you are in a cold sweat worrying that the hambeast you flirted with the night before didn't take your Monty Python impressions the wrong way. Maybe they're braver men than we give them credit for.

Blogger Don Vance June 27, 2020 7:30 AM  

hopefully not off topic

I was listening to the sample of the irrational athiest that VD published. I liked the part where he laid out the idea that science created the abomb but was not responsible for its use.

Is it possible for science to define morality by scientific method and support the idea that incinerating a 100000 people is not good?

Blogger Felix Bellator June 27, 2020 7:39 AM  

@12. Tetro said, "If someone is all alone in the woods, and they get raped... did it really happen?"

How dare you! Doubting zer personal truth especially considering the obvious power differential that exists between zer and whatever that other thing was.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 27, 2020 7:44 AM  

And what the hell is "bathroom policing?"

I'm going to guess it means having the opinion that the terms "men's room" and "ladies room" mean just that.

Blogger rikjames.313 June 27, 2020 8:17 AM  

Given the amount of money Tor bet on McRapey, why would they allow him to post a partial confession like this?

It is not hard. "I have known and worked with X for years. I liked and respected his work and his conduct in my presence was always proper. I am shocked and I need to say his victims deserve our thoughts and prayers"

Blogger SciVo June 27, 2020 8:27 AM  

Aaand there's the gamma/femme solipsistic parentheticals.

Blogger Andy Evick June 27, 2020 8:30 AM  

There is something very off-putting on the style in which McRapey writes his blog entries. In what would take one or two sentences to convey, he uses one or two paragraphs. He just prattles on and on. If his books are anything like this, they must be terrible.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist June 27, 2020 8:36 AM  

Polygon put up an essay on this yesterday. Yes, I read them. Know your enemy. I wonder, as they'll never see a connection, if this whole blitz isn't just another facet of the whole "burn it all down" movement we see regarding statues, the economy, and everything else?

Also two days ago it was funny as hell to watch the Polygon forum regulars stumble over themselves to DEFEND A MAN who was #metoo'ed out of Ubisoft. He has an obvious Middle Eastern name. Of course they were confused.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist June 27, 2020 8:39 AM  

And yes, it sure is The Struggle Sessions all over again, isn't it? And all at once, in every industry.

Blogger Shane Bradman June 27, 2020 8:41 AM  

People who like to write degenerate fiction are degenerate people.

Blogger urthshu June 27, 2020 8:46 AM  

Didn't Scalzi just recently write some long parenthetical screed about Gaimon or something? He knows a lot of weirdos that he has to explain and defend his relationship to.

Blogger basementhomebrewer June 27, 2020 8:48 AM  

If your parentheses contain their own paragraph and are a wall of text the parentheses are no longer needed. That is not an aside, but the whole point of what you are writing.

McRapey sounds like he is getting nervous. I wonder what he has done. He is trying to make it sound like it was accidental and an innocent misunderstanding, which makes me think it is probably pretty bad.

Blogger Uncle Maffoo June 27, 2020 9:02 AM  

What boring humans those people are.

Blogger Thad Tuiol June 27, 2020 9:09 AM  

"And while I’m at it, I’m going through my own interactions with people, especially women, at conventions and other places where it turns out the power differential slides toward me. I can admit that this power differential wasn’t something I truly clued into for a while..."


If anyone in my vicinity ever saqys anything like this, even a family member, I will rip their head from their shoulders and stick it on a pike in the front yard.

Blogger Newscaper312 June 27, 2020 9:13 AM  

@8
I'd assume the abdominal pain was from all the pegging.
I do find amusing, in a cringe-y way, all the "power differential" hand wringing, as if human nature isnt wired such that women are drawn to power/status, or that men are interested in women interested in them. Even if there is zero actual abuse by normal standards of there being no subordinate relationship in same hierarchy. Its all up for the Inquisition now.

Blogger Franz Lyonheart June 27, 2020 9:15 AM  

... he does it and to whom he does it! My brain is very full of defensive frustrated whining right now! Which is also a thing I have to work through.) (And while I’m at it, I’m going through my own interactions with people, especially women, at conventions and other places where it turns out the power differential slides toward me. I can admit that this power differential wasn’t something...

it's impossible to even attempt to parody this gamma word salad.

Blogger Section 8A June 27, 2020 9:22 AM  

I'm not sure how to read this post (but I'm trying) and it think (although sometimes I feel) it really sucks (to be me lol), but I'll forge on anyway (no double meaning there I promise) despite the oncoming (don't read coming in a bad way) sh!tshow (I needed that edit there so I don't offend the offal-minded good trans folks).

Blogger Stryker4570 June 27, 2020 9:41 AM  

Lol, McRapey is self flagellating in hopes of atoning for his 'sin' of having the wrong friends. Who needs the old style Maoist shaming sessions when these people see it coming and willingly throw themselves under the bus in hopes of mercy?

Blogger Skyler the Weird June 27, 2020 9:43 AM  

You can't believe anything SJW "fans" say. The CON Carolina hussies got John Ringo disinvited over groundless accusations he and his wife were engaged in BDSM with underaged girls at conventions.

The Organizers finally realized they were believing bullshit and removed the ban but Ringo and Baen said no thanks.

Their guest list since have consisted of has been 60s child stars and extras from the Walking Dead. Only a matter of time before they go dark.

Blogger Br1cht June 27, 2020 9:53 AM  

Well my friends... kind of hard not to gloat and enjoy when they turn on their own in the cult..

But although some frown upon me, I just can´t stop smiling.

To cite Vox, "it´s Christian to hate the wicked".

I so enjoy the smell of burning witches in the morning;)

Blogger Tiny Bunch June 27, 2020 9:53 AM  

I tried reading some of the links. They're all so very fragile, aren't they? Ready to completely collapse at any time and looking for someone to blame.

Blogger Tars Tarkas June 27, 2020 10:21 AM  

Can you imagine being old McRapey? This act of pre-confession and act of public humiliation is sickening. I almost feel sorry for him. The ticket has a lot of strings attached and sometimes they aren't strings, but nooses. Nobody is going to frogmarch you out blindfolded either. You are going to wave and smile to the crowd, confess to your sins, put you head in that noose and hope it is just another show and that it isn't for real this time and nobody is going to hit the trap door.
What good is all that money and fame when it costs you not only your pride, but your eternal soul?!

Blogger rcocean June 27, 2020 10:37 AM  

What is it about Scalzi and the constant talk of "ass" "Shit" and "fuck" - does he think it makes him sound tough? He comes off as some SJW dweeb -with a harry potter tattoo - talking like a Macho US Marine.

Blogger rcocean June 27, 2020 10:41 AM  

Given what most SF chicks look like, you'd think they'd be flattered at the male attention, but then what Chick, no matter her looks, wants someone like Scalzi hitting on them?

I found McRapey's talk about the power of the SFWA President's position rather amusing.

Blogger rcocean June 27, 2020 10:43 AM  

Last comment. Has McRapey ever stood by one friend? When someone gets in trouble, he claims to not know them, never saw them. and can barely remember their name. I doubt he'll get much backup when the SJW mob comes for him.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 27, 2020 10:47 AM  

There is something very off-putting on the style in which McRapey writes his blog entries.

It's amazingly hard to read. It reminds me of the bit in the Mallorean where Garion is trying to read a section of the prophecy and something keeps forcing his attention away from it. I'm wordy, but trying to read this makes me want to go back and slash 50% out of everything I've written, and 100% of the parentheticals.

I wonder what he has done.

Male feminists are the worst about thinking their dedication to the cause earns them free samples.

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 10:58 AM  

Felix Bellator wrote:How dare you! Doubting zer personal truth especially considering the obvious power differential that exists between zer and whatever that other thing was.

I'm sorry. Where is the nearest Apology Forum? Or rather, Apology Safe Zone?

After apologizing, should I hurry to adopt a Chosen Child of Color, or just off myself? Please inform. Desperately seeking absolution through undignified groveling and cuckery.

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 11:01 AM  

Uncle Maffoo wrote:What boring humans those people are.

Yes. This.

They are all anxiety-riddled Karens, verbalizing all their fears and exposing themselves to anyone and everyone. It is truly more boring than watching paint dry. With paint drying, at least I can enjoy quietude.

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 11:07 AM  

Don Vance wrote:Is it possible for science to define morality by scientific method and support the idea that incinerating a 100000 people is not good?

Silly Don, Science! does not judge. Science! is ABOVE judgment. Judgment is exclusionary. Science! consumes all, explains all, but does not judge. It touches all, in all places.

Only White Supremacists judge. Science! does not judge atomic bombs or Scalzi. For Scalzi and Science! are one. With atomic bombs.

Ah young grasshopper. One day you will see it all so clearly.

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2020 11:08 AM  

McRapey admitted to psyche-raping his friend and professional superior.

I'm pretty sure his crimes are far more than not having the body cams of his rape squad turned on 24/7.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/something-to-think-about-before-writing-that-edgy-rap-1705586415

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 11:09 AM  

rcocean wrote:"ass" "Shit" and "fuck" - does he think it makes him sound tough? He comes off as some SJW dweeb

I find the same with most female comedians who just crotch-thrust these curse words into their routines to try and sound edgy. Their fans do the same. It's try-hard.

Blogger Tetro June 27, 2020 11:15 AM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:There is something very off-putting on the style in which McRapey writes his blog entries.

It's amazingly hard to read.


Agreed. Painful.

Blogger rognuald June 27, 2020 11:31 AM  

If you're f...ing crazy, then you're f...ing crazy!

Blogger Nathan June 27, 2020 11:59 AM  

Known creeps and harassers on both sides. Seeing the stuff on Twitter and attempts to dig up stuff on John Ringo, Mike Resnick, and G.R.R. Martin quickly show that this is being used as an excuse to settle some long-held grudges and jealousies in SFF convention fandom.

Close the conventions down. It's the only way to make sure there are no more victims.

Blogger Unknown June 27, 2020 12:14 PM  

I doubt that JohnnyCon's transgression are anything beyond unrequited attraction to the few women in SFF conventions that actually look like women. He was so torn by guilt when he got a semi-chubby talking to Mary Robinette Kowal he had to confessed to his manly wife. She just laughed, which is highly insulting when you realize it means she 1) knew it ridiculous that her sad sack of a husband would actually act on the impulse and it be reciprocated, 2) didn't care if he did.

Blogger Kallmunz June 27, 2020 12:30 PM  

If Scalzi is getting up at 3 AM with tummy aches it shows that he is terrified, but of what? My best guess is that if he gets the pound me too, Tor has all the excuse that they need to tear up his contract, and that would be the end of his little career. That would be a reason to keep him up at nights.

Blogger Brute_swayne June 27, 2020 12:32 PM  

Can this guy find an even bigger sword to cut his losses?

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia June 27, 2020 12:49 PM  

VD wrote:

I am dubious that all of the art, science, and technology created by sub-Alpha males and good Christian married men can be adequately replaced by female creators.

You shouldn't be dubious, you should be certain.

I haven't read much science fiction, but I have read a lot of literature.

While there have been a few great female writers in the English language -- Jane Austen, George Eliot, Emily Dickinson -- it will always be a few. Why? Because women have a hard time getting outside of themselves (even Emily Dickinson, great as she is, couldn't do it consistently).

The best writers can inhabit other worlds, other psyches. It is the rare female who can do that AND have the intellectual firepower to create the structure and the tapestry to bring that "otherness" to life.

Blogger SacrificialLamb June 27, 2020 12:55 PM  

Scalzi wrote THAT in his blog? I never paid any attention to the man or his work, so I never judged him. But that blog entry....

There was no masculinity in that blog entry. None. I almost thought that a blue-haired SJW hambeast wrote that instead. His blog post was too wordy, too edgelord, too awkward....and it's obvious that the man has no self-confidence. It was hard to read. Everything in that blog entry reeks of creepiness, insecurity, paranoia, and outright fear. Does Scalzi even read what he writes?

Blogger MidnightSun June 27, 2020 12:57 PM  

Knowing that the SDL has exposed your antics in the past and probably still keeps an eye on you, you'd think he'd learn to keep his fat mouth shut! These people have absolutely no awareness of what their actions produce. Pathetic. Truly pathetic.

Blogger Geir Balderson June 27, 2020 1:03 PM  

Scalzi is pure and simple, an asshole of cosmic proportions. HE is so in love with himself and the F-word. I am not sure he could write a sentence with out dropping F-bombs. And, then he blasphemes God and that is so awful as you know he has no core beliefs except for maybe his own damaged soul.

And, why do you have to examine your past interactions with women unless there is something there?

So, John, go hide under your magnificent lawn in that bunker you have built. No one cares about you and your wonderful self. Get right with God. That is what is most important.

Blogger Nate73 June 27, 2020 1:25 PM  

Before I heard of the SSH I had repeatedly read about a scenario I couldn't make sense of. Young attractive female fan goes to convention to meet famous author. Famous author assumes she's interested in him personally. They hang out for a day or two until famous author tries to physically escalate by touching or kissing. Female fan recoils in horror, writing tear-filled blog post about how she couldn't believe her idol would do that.

Blogger Ray - SoCal June 27, 2020 1:29 PM  

The accused authors should have read SJW always Lie, and other books in the series.

Textbook examples with Cole, where an apology is being used as an admittance of guilt.

Best is avoid situations where you could be accused. And any time alcohol is involved, it's a he said, she said, and the he automatically loses.

Blogger Unknown June 27, 2020 1:30 PM  

Myke Cole got a lot of mileage concern trolling Brad Torgersen in Sad Puppies 3.0. You see, Mr. Cole loves to wave his former military credentials while virtue signalling as hard as he can so the sf gatekeepers will invite him to the cool cons and parties as an "appropriate" mil sci-fi author. His books aren't bad actually but it is extremely cringe inducing to see him suck up at cons and on the "correct" blogs. Not surprising he had to liquor up to quiet the logical disconnects. Myke thought his buddies would protect him if he crapped on the Puppies hard enough. Guess not.

Blogger Pseudotsuga June 27, 2020 1:32 PM  

Why, it's as if these folks are finding out that the very things that they fear are themselves! Yet they cower in fear behind Babylon's walls, unable to come out of the city.

Blogger Don Vance June 27, 2020 1:40 PM  

thanks Tetro, i have been learning the art of rhetoric from Mr Bear, still at the larvae stage tho

Blogger Dangeresque June 27, 2020 1:56 PM  

His parentheticals are multiple entire paragraphs with sub-parentheticals. We're achieving levels of gamma not previously thought to exist here, folks...

Blogger Felix Bellator June 27, 2020 2:02 PM  

@39. Tetro - yes, adopt a Child of Color. Sri Lankan is the preferred child for creepy science fiction types.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 27, 2020 2:05 PM  

Days without "Male Feminist" sexual assaults: 0

Blogger Shimshon June 27, 2020 2:07 PM  

Why is he so worried? He confessed to rape years ago, didn't he?

Having some passing familiarity with Scalzi's usual ZFG pose, this strike me as some very open very nervous fidgeting about whether those two years distance to others' misdeeds close a gap he would rather remain open.

Blogger Andy Evick June 27, 2020 2:20 PM  

Ditto. That was my gut reaction to reading that. Woof

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( i'm not shocked Bubba Wallace got outsmarted by a garage door ) June 27, 2020 2:23 PM  

McRapey
Women have a right to be safe and secure, and to have full participation in the cultures and communities that they create and work in.


uh, aside from Romance, what writing community did women "create"?

or is this doofus just using "create" as an unnecessary synonym for "work"?

also amusing that he hasn't yet picked up on the female habit of forcing themselves into an exclusive male area
...
then throwing temper tantrums in order to completely change the way the men were dealing with things.

i'm also amused that he's conflating the FACT of women being "safe and secure" with women's emotional assessment that they are "safe and secure".


McRapey
Myke Cole and Max Temkin and Sam Sykes


what is with all of these "y"s? are all of his offending writer friends ((( queer )))?

if so, how is it possible for "non-binaries" to offend against non-binaries?



3. Canadian Warlord June 27, 2020 5:53 AM
And what the hell is "bathroom policing?"



when you allow perverts into the bathrooms it becomes necessary to station police in the bathrooms to regulate their behavior.

i also like how everyone just assumes that women never come on to any of these men ...

Blogger Felix Bellator June 27, 2020 2:35 PM  

@51. SacrificialLamb said, "Everything in that blog entry reeks of creepiness, insecurity, paranoia, and outright fear."

I made the mistake of reading some of the comments there, same stench. The lack of standards and their genuine lack of understanding the reality of human nature is amazing, but understandable, they are lost and spiritually dead. They are the anchorless flotsam in a world of deceit who have rejected all attempts to throw them a rope.

Blogger Daniel June 27, 2020 3:02 PM  

Krueger got dropped by "DongWon Song?"

Isn't that harrassment?

Blogger Barbarossa June 27, 2020 3:17 PM  

Man, the next 30 weeks of Hypergamouse just wrote themselves.

Also, is it me, but doth Scalzi protest too much? I've had coworkers get rung up on legal difficulties before (including one epic case of equipment pilfering on Ebay), but at no point did I else feel the need to engage in some serious introspection over it. After all, I'm not a thief. I don't drive drunk. What's the quote? "The wicked flee when no one pursues..." (Proverbs 28:1) Come on, Scalzi. You can tell us. There's no shame in admitting that you paid a 14-year old girl in a Sailor Moon cosplay outfit to rape-rape you. It could happen to anyone...who was seriously depleted in testosterone and had the spine of a flatworm.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 27, 2020 3:19 PM  

This reads like it was written by a frantic, panicked woman whose husband has somewhat caught her cheating, but doesn't have enough puzzle pieces yet to throw her clothes in the driveway.

Blogger Terrific June 27, 2020 4:37 PM  

@14:

"Is it possible for science to define morality by scientific method and support the idea that incinerating a 100000 people is not good?"

Are you alleging it wasn't? Cuz it saved the lives of up to a million Americans and 5 million Japanese. So on the cosmic scales of Justice I'd say, "Good job!"

Blogger The Only Cigar in the Box June 27, 2020 5:36 PM  

You can tell McRapey is a candy-ass by the way he talks about women. He believes that they are all the passive, non-assertive, manipulative creatures he's deathly afraid of. He thinks he's a chivalrous knight, but he's actually a closet misogynist.

Blogger thechortling June 27, 2020 6:22 PM  

McRapey has triggered the "it's NEVER ENOUGH" cascade in the comments on his "I soooo soorrrrryy" wheezery.

"Women absolutely have the right to feel safe and secure in spaces both online and off, but given some of the transphobic and aphobic things I’ve seen from certain of those named men, let’s not forget that other genders have been targets in this harassment too"

It's instructive that McR's blog has a picture of not one but two pussies at the top if it. SJW's always double down, after all.

Blogger thechortling June 27, 2020 6:26 PM  

the post-Christian world has nowhere to go except completely psychotic

another McRapey responder cuck cucks so hard...

Scotty Davis says:
JUNE 25, 2020 AT 2:27 PM
I am Cole. I am Sykes. I am Temkin, and I am Ellis.

I am all of them

[sic]

And sometimes, if we are very very fortunate, someone we respect, or someone we have harmed, or even someone we respect AND have harmed… calls us on it. Calls us on our shit so fucking hard that it is physically painful, and embarrassing, and so hard that it makes us wish we were dead and causes us to scrutinize who we really are, versus who we THINK we are, and who we WANT to be.

And therein lies the possibility of redemption.

Blogger Nihil Dicit June 27, 2020 6:35 PM  

also amusing that he hasn't yet picked up on the female habit of forcing themselves into an exclusive male area

In several of the comments, the wymyn are claiming they shouldn't bother doing this anymore, as such male areas are "inevitably and irrevocably misogynist and rapist-enabling", so they have to be burned down and replaced in toto.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 27, 2020 7:12 PM  

I think the biggest feature of male feminists or SJW allies is some expectation that they "earned" favors. Then they do things to women that normal men won't do. And the women who they do it to are practically looking for something to be a victim over. A wholly toxic arrangement. They deserve each other.

Blogger Mother Country June 27, 2020 8:03 PM  

At a certain point I realized that nothing was going to happen with my so-called SF/fantasy/horror career as long as I didn't have an open marriage and then I got too old for it to matter. There >is< a golden ticket and you know when you have it in your hand; if you are a woman creative you know >exactly< what it means: What are you willing to do? In the meantime, these idiotic women need to grow up. They want Victorian morals/protection and the freedom to sleep with whomever at the same time.

This morning, before I read this, I unfriended on Facebook two genre publishers I had worked with who posted "If you're a racist, just unfriend me now." OK. I did. Self-righteous bags of scum. I know I shouldn't be on FB anymore but it's hard to quit.

Blogger CostelloM June 27, 2020 10:25 PM  

Is there some rule that everything McRapey and associates say must be enclosed in (parenthesis) even whole f**** paragraphs?

Blogger Jonathon Davies June 28, 2020 1:42 AM  

Lol. Looking back through their tweets they have all had a go at Trump for "attitudes to women" at some point. SJWs always project.

Blogger Silly but True June 28, 2020 2:41 AM  

Not just McRapey: Chuck Wendig’s bff’s with them all too: http://terribleminds.com/ramble/2020/06/25/a-statement-about-recent-harassers-in-sff/

It’s like a certain type of person surrounds themselves with certain types of like-minded people. Every. Single. Time.

Remember how many authors shielded and ran interference for Ed Kramer’s abuse.

Blogger Kallmunz June 28, 2020 3:50 AM  

As I read through the comments on his blog the word redemption kept coming up, sadly for them there is no redemption in their corner. Now I confess I have Schadenfreude watching Scalzi’s agony. That said I would ask every believer to pray for him at this time. It is through these low points of pain that the Lord can speak to the hardest of hearts. If he turns away from Him, his agony is only beginning. In the end we will all bow and say “Thy will be done,” or hear Him say “Thy will be done.”

Blogger Akulkis June 29, 2020 2:26 PM  

>> Is it possible for science to define morality by scientific method and support the idea that incinerating a 100000 people is not good?



No.

Moral logic starts with a statement containing "should" or "ought".

For example, utilitarianism starts with the premise:

Actions put into practice ought to be those which produce maximum benefit and minimal harm.

Now, for example:

* Fresh water in the home is a benefit to all who have access to it.
* Building a city-wide fresh water plumbing system is a way to provide fresh water in each home, and once built, it requires only the mere effort of turning a faucet handle.
* Therefore, the city ought to build a fresh water plumbing system.

Now, start a chain of logic containing nothing but "is" statements (i.e. statements of fact).

No matter how many factual statements you pile up, you cannot EVER produce a conclusion that says, "A should be done" where A is any action or activity.

To get at a conclusion of A should be done, you must have a premise which also includes the word "should."

Or as one philosopher and ethicist pointed out about 150 years ago. "You can't get an 'ought' from an 'is'"

Science merely tells you what is. By itself, it CANNOT tell you what to do. It merely provides a way of finding out what to do ONCE YOU DEFINE YOUR GOALS with a "should" or "ought to" statement.

Blogger Akulkis June 29, 2020 2:29 PM  

>> If someone is all alone in the woods, and they get raped... did it really happen?

The Old Testament says that's the ONLY place a woman can get raped, for inside the city, she cannot be raped -- she can call out, and therefore attract attention from people nearby, which then prevents the rape. Thus, in the city, a grown woman cannot be raped.

Don't know how that changes with today's situation with glass windows and insulated walls deadening the sound travelling from one house to another.

Blogger Don Vance June 29, 2020 8:53 PM  

"Is it possible for science to define morality by scientific method and support the idea that incinerating a 100000 people is not good?"
Thanks for the interest, I am pleased that my writing has been felt and reacted upon, I also am sorry that I triggered Mr. Terrific. I am trying to follow the Socratic method of admitting that I don’t know and am seeking knowledge from this great world knowledge base available here.

About #69, I suppose my opinion was mostly directed at the story that the war was almost over and the abomb was more of an act of terrorizing the world for world domination than an attempt to crush an already defeated enemy. I have heard Mr Terrific’s argument before and immediately felt it to be the mainstream explanation for the use of the abomb. I agree that it ended the war in spectacular fashion but my point was “good” is the same (or similar) word as God. Would God bless the destruction of civilians and non combatants? Maybe blasting the hell out of the Japanese royal palace would have made the same result, the end of the war, without the slaughter of the innocents. The war was way before my time and I will hesitate to point this event out ever again considering his hit. Like I say, I had just studied the irrational atheist and this event was discussed.

About #80. Thanks for taking the time to write such a great response. I will study this and really appreciate your opinion. I suppose my line of thought followed the idea that morality could be observed by scientific method and proven to be ‘good” or desirable. Every time morality is followed, the results are good. And scientific method can prove immorality is destructive and undesirable. Every time immorality is followed, the results are bad. If the people are moral then their lives are longer and healthier. By scientific method, then it seems like this could be readily observable. How can science not admit that people living are better than people dying? At least science could admit that it can go way beyond the interest of global well being and should be tethered. That is the problem, who holds the reins? I would say science has to self police itself. Those who hold the reins these days have shown very little restraint.

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 30, 2020 6:37 AM  

The amount of hand-wringing about the use of the a-bomb is surprising, and it also may be a misdirection from the level of psychopathy and macro-control involved.

Surprising: The single-night bombing raids of Tokyo and Dresden using incendiaries, produced results of similar scale in terms of deaths. And yet they are not remembered with the same kind of reverence. These are the events that even Curtis LeMay expressed regret over, or at least acknowledged that he'd be in a 'Nuremberg noose' had the other side won.

Misdirection: Is it true that Hiroshima and Nagasaki had not been bombed seriously, for the express purpose of dropping one of each type on unblemished cities as a test? This points to longer-term planning than just a silly little war. Reminds me of the target lists that Ford and GM got to edit, depending on what factories they owned in Germany (bombing was a crapshoot anyway). Ignoring a port city and an industrial city during wartime? Um...

What level of control is evident there? Why are we programmed to regret what was (unfortunately) a common and typical tragedy of the great war part 2? The Axis powers killed 50 million people not in uniform. Besides the special people, no one cares about most of them. Especially the Japanese in regards to China. They went pretty far over there.

Blogger Akulkis July 02, 2020 12:19 AM  

>> Is it true that Hiroshima and Nagasaki had not been bombed seriously, for the express purpose of dropping one of each type on unblemished cities as a test?

>> ... The Axis powers killed 50 million people not in uniform. Besides the special people, no one cares about most of them.

According to Richard Feynman, in his autobiographical book, "Surely, You're Joking, Mr. Feynman," he and all of the other Jewish physicists were very disappointed that their bombs were used by our military against the country which actually attacked us, rather than the one which retaliated against usery and kleptocracy.

Blogger Anthony July 02, 2020 7:45 PM  

A great big SFF sex scandal sand it's not the one I heard about just recently involving Elisabeth Bear, her husband, and various young female writers.

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