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Wednesday, June 03, 2020

Taking a page from the Shining Path

Antifa is stalking police and their families at home:
In a number of different communities in states ranging from California and Texas to Florida – reports have come in that small groups of individuals appear to be canvassing neighborhoods and taking pictures of homes that have police cruisers in the driveways.

“I can absolutely confirm this,” told us one police spokesman, who asked that his department be kept anonymous because of the threats.  “We’ve received multiple reports throughout the weekend both in terms of phone calls and alerts that neighborhood residents are putting out on community watch apps.”

It comes as police are receiving direct, personal threats through social media, calls and emails.

“We and our children are receiving threats,” one police lieutenant told Law Enforcement Today.

The departments we spoke with said that they’re currently making policy changes so that take-home police cruisers are either garaged or – for now – left at the police departments.

“We expect danger when on the job,” said one sergeant.  “But this is different.  They are threatening to burn down our homes and kill our families.”
This is why handling the "protestors" with kid gloves is a tremendous mistake.

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Blogger Zaklog the Great June 03, 2020 3:12 PM  

Can't wait to read the beautifully thought-out National Review piece "The Conservative Case for Murdering Police & Their Families in Their Homes." I hear Goldberg is working on it right now.

Blogger Storm Rhode June 03, 2020 3:16 PM  

It's all fun and games until is you and yours that they're after.

Blogger Crazy Dave June 03, 2020 3:19 PM  

wouldn't surprise me if the local [DNC] mayor/councilmanwoman was feeding them info re law enforcement homes, family, etc.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 03, 2020 3:27 PM  

“We expect danger when on the job,” said one sergeant. “But this is different. They are threatening to burn down our homes and kill our families.”
Waco. Ruby Ridge.

No good guys in this fight.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov June 03, 2020 3:34 PM  

Just about time for Blue states and Blue cities to go on record and demand martial law. Or maybe it's still time to let the cities burn.
So who infiltrated and destroyed the Democrat Party.

Anonymous Anonymous June 03, 2020 3:38 PM  

It's pretty hard to understand why you'd be on the side of the police. They're big government goons, uneducated, literally knuckle dragsters in many cases, implementing whatever big government nanny state politics come down from the central office. They're more likely to want to take your guns, they're more likely to accidentally murder you, they're all around diversity hires going back decades.

Whenever the government requires the narrative to be enforced, it's with the help of police. If you've ever read a police report, it's never more than 1/3 actually true.

No matter how much I dislike left-wing protesters, I can't bring myself to side the blue.

Blogger Fargoth June 03, 2020 3:43 PM  

Taste of their own medicine. Poor cops

Blogger Warunicorn June 03, 2020 3:43 PM  

"Fake news!", they will proclaim. Just like David Dorn or David Underwood was fake news. Or David McAtee firing on cops first was fake news.

Blogger Rakshasa June 03, 2020 3:45 PM  

When they realize that the cops won't do anything even if you hurt or kill cops, a dam is burst and you are free to flow onwards.

Blogger crescent wrench June 03, 2020 3:51 PM  

This is great though:

What they could not do with "stand down" orders on the job they CAN do as private citizens under castle doctrine.

Their fellow officers will quietly and deliberately "botch" any attempt to enforce "duty to retreat" in districts where it's on the books.

I'm looking forward to the first news of soy death on a cop's doorstep.

Blogger RJ June 03, 2020 3:52 PM  

"Waco. Ruby Ridge."

Those were the work of the Feds, not local police...

Blogger Leahn Novash June 03, 2020 3:53 PM  

@7 Enemy of my enemy situation. If they are as bad as you say, I am sure they will feel no remorse about the use of violence.

@10 If I had a penny every time someone said "when this happen, the revolution will start" or similar arguments like yours, I'd be set for life. When everything finally starts, it will be over something stupid.

Blogger Noah B. June 03, 2020 3:53 PM  

These people have no idea who the cops are really protecting.

Blogger Oswald June 03, 2020 3:57 PM  

Trump should state that the cities and states that allow their cities and neighborhoods to be burned to the ground will get no money to rebuild.

Blogger Jeroth June 03, 2020 4:07 PM  

If they start raiding the suburbs, all bets are off. We will finally get war.

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 03, 2020 4:07 PM  

Looks like this toy is broken. antifa went full-circle pretty fast.

Honestly though, how long could a group like this exist? It's 'tramp-stamp' in socioeconomic and demographic slices through society for it's membership, guarantee one thing; There can be no core committed long-term leaders because people won't fight for 'no future.'

The fate of antifa was always sealed, as soon as things 'got real.' People fight to the bitter end for a future, not for Starbucks coupons and bus rides.

Blogger SciVo June 03, 2020 4:09 PM  

Prediction: the Prometheans will learn exactly nothing from this. They will never ever draw a straight line from Waco to "No More Free Wacos" to everyone shrugging when their blackshirts turn on them.

Blogger Gen. Kong June 03, 2020 4:12 PM  

Crazy Dave wrote:

wouldn't surprise me if the local [DNC] mayor/councilmanwoman was feeding them info re law enforcement homes, family, etc.

You can add Pohleece Cheephs, colonels, captains and prosecutors to that list. Many have been put into their overpaid big-man jobs by (((Soros))), et al. Maybe the retarded grunts will re-consider blind obedience to any lawless orders but like shitlibs everywhere that's unlikely. 30 pieces of pension goes a long way to buy compliance - even if it is an empty promise of fake-money from the Usury-Kangz.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei June 03, 2020 4:13 PM  

The basics of law and order enforcement; lethality and retribution are always on the table. Anything else is first world fluff. They cannot prevent crime, they punish and project force.

This is just the fact. They are domestic force projection for the State.

The whole situation seems like a flex by governments, trying to show why they are needed after the Corona lockdowns failed and many laws were flaunted by average people.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov June 03, 2020 4:14 PM  

Oswald wrote:Trump should state that the cities and states that allow their cities and neighborhoods to be burned to the ground will get no money to rebuild.

Trump will rebuild and split the NPC vote.

Blogger Brett baker June 03, 2020 4:15 PM  

I'm laughing and nodding at the same time.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 03, 2020 4:18 PM  

All those dangerous Patriots and Ron Paul supporters never did this. But the slightest hint of any so called militia group doing anything like this and entire outfits would get rolled up. Hutaree militia for example.
While antifa outwardly said they would do shit.
The cops deserve these results. Persecuted the lawful. Set up the honest. Took orders to stand down while the innocent were battered.
Antifa to the left, pigs to the right. Stuck in the middle of this shitshow that God should be ashamed to call His creation.
Hey cops: we warned you this was going to happen. Now sleep with the corpse

Blogger crescent wrench June 03, 2020 4:18 PM  

Oswald wrote:Trump should state that the cities and states that allow their cities and neighborhoods to be burned to the ground will get no money to rebuild.

Aiding and abetting under color of law is prosecutable.

It's time to start enforcing this.

My proposal for arrestee number 1 : https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1268195075953176576

This should also apply to judges who disregard bright-line law to throw open our borders and jails.

Blogger Balkan Yankee June 03, 2020 4:33 PM  

From the article: "It’s worth noting that we have NOT received any confirmation of this from the FBI."

Of course not, the FBI was too busy spying on Republicans.

Blogger Gallant June 03, 2020 4:36 PM  

Regardless of misgivings of policing or police as a whole, and certainly of the political appointees that command them. . . there's no harm, at the local level, with finding common cause with your local police against a common adversary.

Blogger VFM Bear June 03, 2020 4:44 PM  

“But this is different. They are threatening to burn down our homes and kill our families.”

So, is this a 'they took our jobs!' kind of thing?

Blogger Rakshasa June 03, 2020 4:45 PM  

@13 "Hey, when you show the impotence of a pillar of society it will cause an escalation of action that that pillar was preventing."

"I'm often unable to perform, that proves nothing!"

Blogger Jack Ward June 03, 2020 4:47 PM  

I was going to comment that surely even the joggers, looters, arsonists, antifa could not be stupid enough to target, maim, even kill an LEO's family, especially kids. But, then, reality set in and I knew they, or enough of them, at least could do these things. It would only take a few 'episodes, before the first responders and their friends would make the most violent vigilantes look tame.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 03, 2020 4:51 PM  

@12, they're in the same barrel as the rotten apples. Do you really think there are significant numbers of big city cops who aren't cast from the same mold as the ATF and FBI?

Blogger ZhukovG June 03, 2020 4:54 PM  

So, I guess 'they' are trying to provoke our beloved GE into an overreaction.

I don't think it's going to work.

Even the Cosa Nostra wouldn't target a cop's kids.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Angantyr June 03, 2020 5:03 PM  

AndyT wrote:No matter how much I dislike left-wing protesters, I can't bring myself to side the blue.

As they teach in the Tholian Military Academy, "Let's You and Him Fight!"

I'm just gonna get a large bucket o' popcorn and pop open a good beer and enjoy the fireworks.

Blogger tublecane June 03, 2020 5:10 PM  

@7- One doesn't need to side with the Gang in Blue so much as against the greater threat to public order. Which are the terrorists. Or, on a larger scale, globohomo.

The Narrative loves setting up these false dichotomies. Between Democrats and Republicans, capitalists and socialists, cops and "protesters," and watch us scurry to sides so we can be emotionally moved like chess pieces along with them.

In the Time of Choosing you go not with drama written by someone else, but with your own kind against the Other, and with Good against Evil. There are our kind in and out of law enforcement, but almost entirely the Other arraigned against it. Same way with Good and Evil. That's good you know.

The other option is to join or found some other force capable of restoring public order. But that's an option for far down the lone, if ever. I

@5- In those instances initially law enforcement was unprepared for a fight. Showing up in force was overkill in the service of warrants and headlines. They didn't expect John and Jane Q. to show them up.

Truly depraved acts in each case followed the dying down of action and the long boredom of siege tactics. In both cases you had Narratives form pushing swift action, as well as plenty of time for higher-ups to toll the bell of doom.

Blogger The Masked Menace June 03, 2020 5:14 PM  

Two can play that game.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction June 03, 2020 5:15 PM  

@7

Vox saying don't shoot right also means don't shoot at people who aren't your enemies. Yes the police are government goons, STFW. Change the government elite, shift the overtone window, establish social cohesion and you will see a different police force.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 03, 2020 5:41 PM  

I was writing earlier about leftists in mothers groups? Child Free activists targeted their children. Child-Free activists would stalk the mother and child, and then find a way to harm the child in public. Like, slamming kids into freezers at the grocery store. They were violent back then. I knew the people who had children harmed, from online.

The Child Free activists would later deny this all happened. They would claim they never would do this- that Breeders were the problem. I saw the women in the same week as their child getting attacked.

The bulletin board got suspended and then shut down by the owner, to keep women and their children safe.

There are people who really enjoy hurting children. This is just another excuse: they target the weak. For whatever reason, the police families are now considered vulnerable. They harm left, too. It's not about the police. It's about cruelty to the young, dependent and vulnerable.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash June 03, 2020 5:54 PM  

What did you think "No More Free Wacos" means?

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli June 03, 2020 6:06 PM  

It is in times like these that we must ask... What would Andrew Jackson do?

Blogger Goose June 03, 2020 6:07 PM  

I strongly suspect that if they actually harm the families of the police the police will go hunting. The idiots forget that police have a great information systems and intellegence gathering ability. When you do not have to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt and know who is doing stuff the game of turn about takes a different meaning. Antifa has been allowed priviliged sanctuary and when removed (or ignored)reality rises up and bits you in the face. I have NO sympathy for Antifa and very little for the police who spend too much time sucking the anus of corrupt politicians and when the taste overwhelms them take it out on the population.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 03, 2020 6:10 PM  

The police have been on Antifa's side in many cases over the last few years. The left counts on the police state to disarm Americans for them, since they find guns icky and scary themselves. Not very smart for them to attack their allies like that.

Blogger crazyivan498 June 03, 2020 6:10 PM  

The police continue to lose the moral high ground and are irrelevant now. I am not sure how this ends or does it ever end. The looting could just continue from town to town. A armed militia could deal with this if it comes to that, however how will government/police respond? It's possible they will go after the people protecting themselves from looters. This isn't going to stop until someone forcefully makes them. I predict they are going to warehouses soon and later into people's homes if this is allowed to continue

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 03, 2020 6:12 PM  

@35, maybe someday big city cops will be good guys. That's not the case today.

@33 tubalcane, I see the big city cops as ticket-takers. If they go after rioters? Good. If rioters go after them? Good. No good guys in that fight.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 03, 2020 6:16 PM  

It's pretty hard to understand why you'd be on the side of the police.

Nothing in this post does that, so you're reading that into it. Try to get past binary thinking. You can consider the cops a badge gang and still understand the rhetorical value in this when trying to sway the average American who can still say "protect and serve" without laughing.

Blogger tublecane June 03, 2020 6:17 PM  

@20- If so, they are failing horribly. Because law enforcement appears weak right now.

Blogger Ibelin June 03, 2020 6:51 PM  

Who knew the vaccine for covid was a left wing protest?

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont June 03, 2020 6:52 PM  

A police car was burned in a policeman's driveway in my hometown of Gainesville, GA, which is about 50 miles NE of Atlanta.

https://www.gainesvilletimes.com/news/public-safety/9-gainesville-residents-arrested-amid-protests-face-misdemeanor-charges/

Back when integration happened, the New York Times sent reporters to Gainesville to get a first hand account of the violence they were sure would occur in the first days of school. After several days of nothing anywhere in any of the schools, they left.

When a drunken mixed race couple from New York was arrested after disturbing the peace on an Amtrak train, the train stopped and they were arrested. "Organizers" from New York came and tried to turn it into a racial thing. They visited the black churches to try and stir locals up to protest. The pastors of the black churches all stood together and told them to go away. There was no racial aspect to the arrests, Gainesville was a town where people got along and outsiders such as them were not welcome.

When the KKK came to burn a cross, it was the white folk who told them to GTFO, and they did.

Outsiders were always the ones who tried to stir up trouble, not people native to Gainesville.

I was raised by a black woman that I still consider to be a mom to me. My old weightlifting coach (a white guy) was a mentor for Deshaun Watson. I have black friends who were very instrumental in my development as a Christian. This may sound hard to believe, but people treated each other as people because Jesus and football were the great equalizers. We simply got along.

With the most recent riots in Gainesville, they were started by people with Gainesville addresses. Maybe they were recent transplants, I don't know. What I do know is, this change in my old home town shows how far the division has reached. Gainesville is becoming Atlanta. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

Blogger Eric Waite June 03, 2020 7:14 PM  

Exactly. This is the type of war where I hope both sides lose.

Blogger travvyboy June 03, 2020 7:23 PM  

Let the blue areas burn from their own people radicalized by their own policies, protect the red areas. Perhaps this is part of "the plan" ?

Blogger map June 03, 2020 7:35 PM  

Remember, police are a response to a catalyst. They are almost always called to the scene, that is, they show up because someone is getting reported to police. They don't just appear out of nowhere to insert themselves where they are not wanted.

Antifa is not some just punishment for police brutality. Antifa is there to negate police responses to a scene, so they are the ones running the streets, not the cops. Antifa's goal is to isolate the public from any lawful "protection," such as it exists.

Blogger rikjames.313 June 03, 2020 7:46 PM  

In the Detroit area the cops are taking knees and allow the protesters to do as they wish but are arresting drivers when the protesters surround their cars and they try to nose through.

For years the cops have arrested good people for defending their homes when the blacks try to break in. A hard working father gets his life ruined for three beers and driving so the cop can get overtime, but Deshaunda can steal and sling dope at will as the cops make half hearted efforts to slow him down.

The cops chose a side. Let them enjoy their choice.

Blogger pyrrhus June 03, 2020 7:54 PM  

So the two POC NYC attorneys, one a Princeton grad, who threw a molotov cocktail at a police vehicle have now been released on 250K bond....They face 20 years in prison if the prosecution proceeds...

Blogger Jack Amok June 03, 2020 8:03 PM  

Hope the dogs are okay.

Blogger Gulo Gulo June 03, 2020 8:17 PM  

After seeing how the State Police Commercial Vehicle Unit has treated some of my contract wood haulers this past two years, its hard to feel much pity. They look at these guys, who work a lot harder than they do - providing the raw materials to make their life comfortable- as lower than swine. They make nasty comments to them, act with an air of superiority and throw out fines, for minor equipment infractions, large enough to wipe out an entire week of profits for these truckers. Whatever is coming to these jack booted thugs - they deserve in spades. All that said.. whatever pANTIFA is looking to replace them with is as bad..or worse. A pox on both their houses.

Blogger Unknownsailor June 03, 2020 8:21 PM  

I trained with many cops, Feds and local, in the many firearms classes I took. I'd stack up behind any of them, no questions asked. I fully realize that the cops I trained with are a tiny slice of the whole, and are the sort of cops we all wish they all were.

I don't know anything about my local city police, but they don't have a reputation of being thugs, so far as I know.

Antifa coming here would be a spectacularly bad idea. We ain't Portland.

Blogger cecilhenry June 03, 2020 8:38 PM  

IT will extend to a lot more than the police being followed home.


In a civil war like this it will including refusing service to ideological opponents.

Including medical treatment. A high profile case like that is coming....

Maybe some politician who presumes the White plebs will always be there for him when he needs them-- will find someone stepping aside or just AWOL in the crisis.


Someone will decide that being taxed to death for the opportunity to solve someone else's problems and then seeing your community and people destroyed to do it leaves no reason to 'lend a helping hand'.

Look at what happened in 4 days when a criminal-police office interaction went wrong.

Blogger Nihil Dicit June 03, 2020 8:43 PM  

If you've ever read a police report, it's never more than 1/3 actually true.

And that's on the rare occasion they can be arsed to write on. The average patrol officer's aversion to paperwork does mean I've never been convicted on a traffic ticket, though.

As for the main issue at hand, since the police are under no legal compulsion to assist any of us in our need, why should we feel any obligation to come to their aid now? Did we not just have a post about "emotionally extricating yourself from feeling any sense of responsibility for those who have already violated the natural ties of blood", in this case, in the name of the State?

Blogger Michael June 03, 2020 8:46 PM  

Ugh.

Blogger Stilicho June 03, 2020 8:47 PM  

Democrats

Blogger Stilicho June 03, 2020 8:54 PM  

I understand the schadenfreude. What you have to keep in mind is the moral level of war in this current situation and the fact that the front line cops will be educated about their masters' utter disregard for the lives of the cops' families and that those cops will be forced to choose: pension or family.

Worry about fixing the nature of law enforcement vs keeping the peace another day. win the battle before you while preparing the field for the next one.

Blogger rumpole5 June 03, 2020 8:59 PM  

These rioting fools should remember that the original race riots in this country, from New York in the 1860s right through to the 1940s, did not go well for folks of African descent. Am Afros are a distinct minority, and if they think that their fellow hispanic and asian minorities will care when blacks are targeted for destruction, then they are not paying attention to how blacks have fared in Los Angeles as hispanics have moved in, and how asians feel about academic black set asides. Sowing the wind, they are.

Blogger Geir Balderson June 03, 2020 9:12 PM  

“But this is different. They are threatening to burn down our homes and kill our families.”

And, their dogs are the first to get shot. Just because.

Blogger Unknown June 03, 2020 9:12 PM  

>"there's no harm, at the local level, with finding common cause with your local police against a common adversary"

Bad idea. Maintain maximum distance, both professional and personal, from these Israeli trained intelligence agents and sadists.

White people are the only "common adversary" recognized by system adepts.

You'd think Boomers would have heard about Charlottesville (2017) by now. But they are still hooked on the fantasy of "based cops." "There are police officers who are secretly on my side," imagines the Boomer, forever living in the "Dirty Harry" fictional universe (1971). We've heard of the Secret King. Now we see his ignis fatuus: the Secret Cop.

We have no allies. Secret Cop and Spiderman aren't coming to rescue us. The only people who will defend our lives is us. We must, and will, do this ourselves, and we will succeed with God's grace.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 03, 2020 10:21 PM  

Gallant wrote:... there's no harm, at the local level, with finding common cause with your local police against a common adversary.
When two of your enemies are fighting, step back and let them destroy one another.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 03, 2020 10:24 PM  

And in somewhat related though distant news, as he's tweeting a lot during this "crises", Scott Adams is saying that identity politics is a tool of the rich to retain power.

I don't think it's going to get more boomer than that.

Blogger Akulkis June 03, 2020 10:25 PM  

> When everything finally starts, it will be over something stupid.

Something stupid like an attempt to transport a counterfeiting suspect for booking ends in suspect dying of a heart attack which prompts nationwide riots.

Blogger tublecane June 03, 2020 11:09 PM  

@59- They have better friends than "fellow minorities" (i.e. racial groups also against Whitey): the state.

Have them at the moment, anyway. Not forever. Fickle friends are they.

Blogger SciVo June 03, 2020 11:10 PM  

@ Doktor Jeep:

And in somewhat related though distant news, as he's tweeting a lot during this "crises", Scott Adams is saying that identity politics is a tool of the rich to retain power.

Well, he isn't entirely wrong (though now I would say Prometheans rather than AirSpacers).

Blogger tublecane June 03, 2020 11:21 PM  

@59- Think how little young minds retain upon emerging from indoctrination factories, I mean public school. Now consider what does manage to stick to their brains. Likelier than not, most Americans have been conditioned to think of a time when the majority population didn't have to rely on the favor of the state to protect themselves from violently unruly minority groups as the Bad Old Days. Endless harping on terroristic lynch law yields results.

Why did those grumpy old whites feel the need to murder blacks like that? Well, look at the news. That's why. We're living it.

Not that it's a good thing they had to. It would be preferable for the 400-year pain in the rear to behave.

Blogger Unknown June 03, 2020 11:31 PM  

There was a guy named Duncan Lemp, bet he would like to comment on this story..

Blogger Roninf9 June 03, 2020 11:33 PM  

When Antifa are done with the police who do you think they are coming after next?

Blogger jijijeac June 03, 2020 11:47 PM  

white cops are vulnerable against the swarms of joggers and commies when they unite forces. its basically a zerg swarm that u can't do anything against since even using self defense against them will result in you being incarcerated and being demonized by the media

Blogger ontoiran June 04, 2020 12:35 AM  

but...but...we took a knee

Blogger Unknown June 04, 2020 1:09 AM  

11. RJ June 03, 2020 3:52 PM
Those were the work of the Feds, not local police...


as if the local yokels don't murder citizens all too often.


29. Ominous Cowherd June 03, 2020 4:51 PM
Do you really think there are significant numbers of big city cops who aren't cast from the same mold as the ATF and FBI?



Minneapolis has been a Mob run city for well over a century.

being a Mob run city means, by definition, that a lot of cops are on the take.

back in 1903, Minneapolis was found to be going out of their way to hire convicted violent felons into the police force ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organized_crime_in_Minneapolis

you wonder why they murdered a suspected NON-VIOLENT perp in broad daylight? there's your answer.



64. Akulkis June 03, 2020 10:25 PM
Something stupid like an attempt to transport a counterfeiting suspect for booking ends in suspect dying of a heart attack which prompts nationwide riots.



if me and 2 other non-cop guys sat on your chest until you either had a heart attack or asphyxiated because you couldn't breathe, that would be stupid enough to get us all charged with negligent homicide.

and you don't want these retard cops prosecuted because?

note also, cops are ramming their cars into people all over the country ... but when James Fields did THE EXACT SAME THING, FOR THE EXACT SAME REASON, we had to prosecute him for murder.

you want people hunting cops? keep excusing and encouraging cop misbehavior.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 04, 2020 4:53 AM  

They have killed about 6or 7 cops this week and maimed hundreds of others. They would love to kill cops at home. The cops have no problem pinning crap on whites and kneeling before joggers in supplication.

Blogger boogeyman June 04, 2020 5:39 AM  

5. Nikolai Collushnikov
No one infiltrated them. They're just naturally evolving towards their final, ultimate form.

Oh, and the enemy of my enemy? Yea, he can kiss my ass too. Like someone else said, there is no one on "our side". Everyone is explicitly or implicitly in opposition to white, straight, Christians. If there are police that are on our side, they would find another line of work.

I am under no obligation to lift a finger to stop the destruction of what isn't mine, caused by people who hate me, in order to help other people who hate me. Part of me feels heart ache seeing my country burn, but then I remember it stopped being my country a good while ago. I didn't leave it, it left me. That's when the heart ache turns to something more like what a guy feels when he sees his deranged ex-wife destroying her life.

Blogger John Rockwell June 04, 2020 5:58 AM  

So American Tiananmen Square?

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 6:22 AM  

>> Antifa is not some just punishment for police brutality. Antifa is there to negate police responses to a scene, so they are the ones running the streets, not the cops. Antifa's goal is to isolate the public from any lawful "protection," such as it exists.


Antifa's goal is to *BE* the state.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 6:30 AM  

"there's no harm, at the local level, with finding common cause with your local police against a common adversary."

You're going to risk your life fighting Enemy A to save the lives of Enemy B?

How stupid are you?

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 6:54 AM  

"Vox saying don't shoot right also means don't shoot at people who aren't your enemies."

They put hundreds of thousands of Michigan families into poverty enforcing an unjust law passed by an extremely unpopular governor (who literally fled to California hours after her replacement was inaugurated) in a pure money-grab, suspending the drivers' licenses of anybody who didn't have enough cash on hand to pay a ticket -- thereby putting those people out of work, and de facto unable to pay fines going into the THOUSANDS of dollars over not paying tickets as low as $80 in 14 days.

This went on for over a DECADE, and cops kept pulling people over, impounding vehicles(*), and taking actions which they knew would impose thousands of dollars of even MORE fines, all for "makin' muh quota" and "I got me an arrest!" and literally ruining poeple's lives who were already struggling.

FUCK THOSE PEOPLE.

(*) which were lost to the towing companies, because the vehicle's owners, struggling as it is, didn't have $200 just laying around to pay to get a car out of impound immediately, and "storage fees" (in unmaintained mudholes at the outrageous rate of $50/day). A racket that the towing companies have been overenthusiastic to participate in. When the violence gets more widespread, a lot of towing companies in Michigan are going to be surprised to find their offices firebombed and their tow-trucks completely destroyed by people who had their vehicles literally stolen from them under color of law.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 6:57 AM  

"There are people who really enjoy hurting children. This is just another excuse: they target the weak. For whatever reason, the police families are now considered vulnerable. They harm left, too. It's not about the police. It's about cruelty to the young, dependent and vulnerable."

Wrong.

The way to absolutely break a man, permanently, is to kill off his entire family and leave him alive and severely disabled.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 6:59 AM  

"The idiots forget that police have a great information systems and intellegence gathering ability."

That only works when 90% of society cooperates.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 7:16 AM  

>> I trained with many cops, Feds and local, in the many firearms classes I took. I'd stack up behind any of them, no questions asked. I fully realize that the cops I trained with are a tiny slice of the whole, and are the sort of cops we all wish they all were.


Most psychopaths pretend to be all nice and good when they're around someone who they can get something from. When those same men were NOT around you, their instructor (who they didn't want to piss off, for fear of being thrown out of your class, and having to go back to their superiors and explain why) do you think they were all still officer friendly with even common, ordinary people just having a bad day?

In all of my interactions with traffic police, there have been only 2 times when the officer pulling me over didn't lie to my face about what I had supposedly done. The most outlandish was accusing me of getting a Geo Spectrum with a 1.6l engine to go from 0 (at a light) to 45 MPH (72 km/hr) in a 25 MPH zone, in less than a city block, with a standard transmission (automatics can accelerate faster because the torque converter's fluid interface allows the engine to be revved at high speed and deliver full power, whereas trying to start a standard with the engine revved like that results in lots of wear on the clutch pad before it fully grips.

Strangely, I never went to court on that one because a week later I got a letter from the city where this supposed speeding took place telling me that the ticket had been dropped by the prosecutor's office. My suspicion is that a horribly mis-calibrated radar set was involved, and a judge threw out all of the tickets having to do with that radar set.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 04, 2020 8:03 AM  

Roninf9 wrote:When Antifa are done with the police who do you think they are coming after next?
When Antifa are done with the police we can go after Antifa.

Blogger Avalanche June 04, 2020 8:15 AM  

@25 "finding common cause with your local police against a common adversary"

It makes me angry at the media-heads -- ones usually identified as "ours" always leaping to defend "the-rank-and-file" of the Feebs and etc. It's always "ooooh the corruption is at the top! It's never the regular FBI guys, THEY are just wonderful and honorable." And yes-of-course, some/many of them are... maybe.

Explain how 77-yr-old, non-violent arrestee Roger Stone's house was SWATTED with:
"more than a dozen FBI agents"
"Stone wasn't allowed to just surrender voluntarily."
"FBI used "greater force" than was used in operations conducted on ... "El Chapo" ... and Osama bin Laden."
"... an agent for three decades, “I cannot recall banging on anyone’s door at 6 a.m. for a white-collar crime. I did do it once in a kidnapping and extortion case.”"
"The FBI had to do a bin Laden-style pre-dawn raid on a guy who was just released on his own recognizance?"


Those WERE "rank-and-file" Feebs; joyous in the chance to play dress-up and terrorize old folks. And with all the law-breaking and insane corruption going on visibly for 8 years -- NOT ONE of these "honorable" rank-and-file blew the whistle or tipped off anyone?!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 04, 2020 8:41 AM  

Avalanche wrote:And with all the law-breaking and insane corruption going on visibly for 8 years -- NOT ONE of these "honorable" rank-and-file blew the whistle or tipped off anyone?!
They are all happy to stay in the same barrel with the bad apples. That makes them bad apples.

It doesn't really matter whether it's 1% making the other 99% look bad, or 99% making the other 1% look bad: they're all looking bad. We can never trust anyone who was a part of a corrupt organization, even if one or two of them might, somehow, have remained honest and uncorrupted while simultaneously helping cover up corruption.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 8:50 AM  

"When Antifa are done with the police who do you think they are coming after next?"

1) Most cops are idiots, which leads to
2) Most cops are arrogant assholes, which leads to
3) Most cops don't have a clue about practical OPSEC beyond "I'm the one asking the questions!" because they literally think they own everything.

Taking police vehicles to their HOMES in the middle of civil disturbances? How *stupid* do you have to be to do such a thing if you live in anything other than a fortified building or inside base with access controlled by the discretionary use of lethal force?

Lastly:
Cops in Michigan ... a few dozen thousand
Right-wing deer hunters in Michigan: OVER 1 million.
That doesn't even count right wing rifle-owners who aren't hunters.

Antifa people, by and large, were raised by either single moms (which is to say, divorced by choice or due to intolerable behavior on their own part) or intact families with emasculated fathers.

Remember the video of the few of them who own guns going to the range (as the "John Brown" club) and most of them couldn't even put bullets on paper at a range of 15 meters USING RIFLES.

The only thing Antifa knows how to do is ambush tactics on lone, unaccompanied targets, and how to damage unguarded property. Even with all of their training (notice the same TTPs everywhere) they're STILL a bunch of chuckleheads. A threat to veterans in a "two-way range" situation? No. Not even close.

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 8:56 AM  

"and you don't want these retard cops prosecuted because?"

Oh, I definitely believe they should be prosecuted. Even if the man died of a heart attack.. he was already cuffed -- all they had to do is pick him up and throw him into the back of the car.

You're missing the point.

Someone said when the shit hits the fan, it's going to be over something stupid.

Like needlessly causing the death of a non-violent suspect in broad daylight, in such a manner as to provoke nationwide riots. That right there IS YOUR STUPID EVENT that could start everything.

Not saying it is, but we're half way there already.

And as you noted, Minneapolis has been a corrupt town for a LONG time (basically, Chicago crime figures were hanging out in Minneapolis to get away from the heat, and more or less took over the city)

Blogger Akulkis June 04, 2020 8:57 AM  

"you want people hunting cops? keep excusing and encouraging cop misbehavior."

I think widespread hunting of cops is the only solution for their long documented, and uninterrupted history of misbehavior.

If people are hunting cops, then I welcome it. Maybe then they'll stop harassing ordinary people, instead of viewing the public at large as easy marks in a game of intimidation and profit.

Blogger Thomas Bateman June 04, 2020 10:13 AM  

My local police are amazing individuals in a semi-rural sheriffs office. They are well trained and honorable, holding the 4th amendment in high regard and eschewing civil asset forfeiture. I don’t want to see them harmed ever. They keep the orcs outside of my county at bay, and they do a damn fine job of it.

I suggest handling your local problem, if there is any. Let Minneapolis handle Minneapolis and otherwise mind your own business.

Blogger Nostromo June 04, 2020 10:17 AM  

Targetting the police was never a good idea in my home state of Kentucky. I remember the few times it has happened, and the perpetrator only made it to court once. The rest all died in a hail of gunfire, resisting arrest. The one guy who did make it to trial, fled to Indiana. The ISP caught him first. Luckiest day of that guys life. My nephew is a LEO, and in this latest round of rioting he told us the KSP has arrived, and they weren't playing. That night a vibrant was shot by the police. The Mayor, ( a Dem obviously) fired the police chief immediately. The media reports this POC was a good guy, turning his life around... yadda yadda yadda... After a day of this blather, video pops up of the guy letting rioters use his place as an escape route, then shooting at the police first! So much for the media narrative.

Blogger Angantyr June 04, 2020 12:27 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Roninf9 wrote:When Antifa are done with the police who do you think they are coming after next?

When Antifa are done with the police we can go after Antifa.


Precisely. The only thing keeping us from burning the little f**ckers hiding in their mommy's basement is "law and order". Lose the law and order and the pANTIFucks lose the only real protection they have.

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2020 12:49 PM  

When Antifa are done with the police who do you think they are coming after next?

The people Antifa need the police to protect them from.

Blogger Jack Amok June 04, 2020 3:02 PM  

To make it easy for people, just remember that the police are the enforcers for the status quo. If the status quo is mostly decent people trying to keep society functional, then the police will mostly be a force for decency helping to maintain a functional society. If the status quo are mostly clowns and corrupticrats, then the police will mostly be a force for clownishness and corruption.

Blogger tublecane June 04, 2020 3:57 PM  

@72- Whether or not the cop deserves to be prosecuted and the stupidity or intelligence of the event sparking nationwide riots have little to do with one-anothger. I mean, it would be stupider if the guy wasn't murdered. However, there is no good reason this one murder (if it is such) should lead to anything but the usual legal whatnot.

The riots are based on a sense of righteous indignation, but also upon a grievous misapprehension that "systemic racism" blah-blah-blah. I can't even type it out.

Cops are not harder on blacks. Except in the sense that blacks have more contact with them on account of blacks being more criminal than other groups. Cops are in fact worse on whites, on account of not being afraid of being called racist for abusing them.

In fact, cops are hands-off blacks to a dangerous extent, especially for other versions blacks who are the primary victims of blacks.

All of which is to say, yes, this is a stupid reason to riot.

Blogger Avalanche June 04, 2020 10:55 PM  

Wow. Scary. Project Veritas:

Project Veritas INFILTRATES ANTIFA: "Practice things like an eye gouge...injure someone's eyes" (4 min 41 sec)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLR76_e_koE

Blogger Akulkis June 05, 2020 1:42 AM  

"My local police are amazing individuals in a semi-rural sheriffs office."

Those aren't police.
Those are Sherrif's Deputies. Completely different animal, as the officer of Sherrif is a directly elected position, where as that of Police Chief is an appointed position, and used to obscure the connection between the actions of a city's police department and the mayor who tells the police what he wants them to be doing.

Blogger Akulkis June 05, 2020 1:44 AM  

"Targetting the police was never a good idea in my home state of Kentucky. I remember the few times it has happened, and the perpetrator only made it to court once. The rest all died in a hail of gunfire, resisting arrest."

And the difference between one lone-wolf hunting police, and a literal army of pissed off people hunting the police is.... (clue: The answer is not "nothing.")

Blogger Akulkis June 05, 2020 1:54 AM  

Excellant find, Avalanche.

Blogger Storm Rhode June 05, 2020 4:07 PM  

The cavalry isn't coming. We have to handle it.

Blogger Darren June 07, 2020 7:34 PM  

It's been more than a month, did the uniformed murderers of ignored-by-MSM sleeping white man Duncan Lemp ever get around to releasing their body cam footage to the victim's family???

Blogger Darren June 07, 2020 7:38 PM  

...the goal of Gus Fring re. The Salamanca family, too bad he didn't get to enjoy it very long eh

Blogger Darren June 07, 2020 7:41 PM  

At least Roger Stone's over the top predawn raid didn't quite hit Duncan Lemp level of "oopsie".
I guess because Stone wasn't a cryptocurrency-aware fan of III'ers?

Blogger Darren June 07, 2020 7:43 PM  

MPAI.

Cops are people.

...your logic checks out.

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