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Thursday, June 11, 2020

The cops are quitting

A 27-year veteran police commander explains why he is abandoning the profession:
Doctors kill 250,000 people a year. They call them “medical mistakes” because society understands that they do a very difficult job under high stress and they must make the best possible decision in the moment.

Law enforcement is tasked with the same and we are highly successful. Despite the most violent society we have ever seen, less than 1,000 suspects are killed a year. 96% are attacking us with weapons and all but a few others are attacking us with their cars or their fists and more and more with simulated guns so Benjamin Crump (an American civil rights attorney) can help their family win the lottery.

I’ve seen cops risk their own lives when they shouldn’t have… just to keep from taking one.

They never get the credit that other professions get.

Cowards are all around us. From chiefs to sheriffs to politicians, no one has our back.

Now, the little we have, we are told they are going to defund us or even abolish us. Citizens with a political agenda will reign over us and all you have to do is wake up and put on a uniform to be a racist.

This weekend I received death threats for just doing my job. It would have been outrageous a decade ago and made national news.

Now, it’s just a Monday.

There will be more threats, more accusations of racism and more lies told about us.

I used to talk cops out of leaving the job. Now I’m encouraging them.

It’s over America. You finally did it.

You aren’t going to have to abolish the police, we won’t be around for it.
On the one hand, it's impossible to blame the man. Everything that he says is true. On the other hand, he leaves out a lot of the changes that have taken place over the course of the last 40 years. It must be admitted that many U.S. police forces helped bring the present situation about, as since the 1980s they were methodically corrupted. The combination of police unions, qualified immunity, militarization, asset seizures, affirmative action, and an unwillingness to convict genuinely bad cops resulted in a transformation from public servants keeping the peace to Law Enforcement Officers.

The police chose the wrong side and served the elite against the people. Now they stand in the way of the elite's plans for what passes for society, so they are being cast aside and cannot reasonably expect any substantive support from the white Americans whose interests they have systematically betrayed for at least the last four decades.

All in all, it strikes me as an excellent time to launch a private security corporation.

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140 Comments:

Blogger John Rockwell June 11, 2020 5:35 AM  

Yep. Private Security time for Men like himself.

Blogger Twisted Root June 11, 2020 5:37 AM  

Quitting is a stupid move. Nothing is lost by going on strike first.

Blogger Paulito June 11, 2020 5:48 AM  

When you've spent the last 40 years instilling an "us versus them" mentality within your ranks, you shouldn't be surprised when "them" start reciprocating.

Blogger SciVo June 11, 2020 5:59 AM  

The combination of police unions, qualified immunity, militarization, asset seizures, affirmative action, and an unwillingness to convict genuinely bad cops resulted in a transformation from public servants keeping the peace to Law Enforcement Officers.

There are a lot of factors in the loss of respect, and I think the biggest is the perception of laziness, that they would rather come down hard on someone unthreatening than do the work to take out a violent thug. So then what is the point of them?

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira June 11, 2020 6:00 AM  

The army is ahead of them by about 10 years. My old regiment looks like a dysgenic globalist experiment now. Matter of fact, it is.

Blogger Toby V TreeHugger June 11, 2020 6:02 AM  

Maybe effing everyone over during Corona wasn't he best idea. Normal, innocent citizens who had to pay 500$ fines just for seeing their families, don't care too much anymore. The cops brought that to themselves with their arrogance and being mindless tools of the deep-state. "I just did my job, boo hoo".

Blogger boogeyman June 11, 2020 6:04 AM  

Over the last 4 years the cops have stood aside and let antifa and company destroy property, hold up traffic, assault peaceful counter-protesters, people attending Trump rallies, or even just walking down the sidewalk or driving down the street at the wrong time. Then, when anyone raises a hand in their own defense, THEN the cops swing into action and arrest the people defending themselves. Just a couple weeks ago the cops were arresting people for going to church or opening their business.

The cops have done a lot to signal they are on the side of the people who hate them and are willing to sacrifice the people who would naturally support them. Either that, or they were so cowardly that they did such at the direction of their leftist political masters. It's kind of presumptuous to assume we would have your back when you keep stabbing us in ours.

Blogger Robert Browning June 11, 2020 6:12 AM  

You are going to be forced to defend yourself, this is all part of a future large event.

Blogger Dan in Georgia June 11, 2020 6:32 AM  

As long as cops are strangers where they patrol, they won't be trusted by the locals. Having cops live where they work might do wonders. That, and allowing the people to defend themselves...

Blogger Stilicho June 11, 2020 6:39 AM  

Welcome to being white in America.

Blogger JohnofAustria June 11, 2020 7:04 AM  

Very true. They've been enforcing bad laws too long

Blogger JohnofAustria June 11, 2020 7:04 AM  

Yup. Dont arrest a man for doing what you say is your job.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 7:04 AM  

>> Quitting is a stupid move. Nothing is lost by going on strike first.



Continuing to be the enforcers of corrupt laws passed by the most corrupt among us -- only for more pay -- doesn't solve their problem, it just angers the non-criminal taxpayers even more.

"You failed to come to a complete stop"
"My wheels stopped turning"
"Yes, but the car body hadn't finished 'settling' so I'm writing you a ticket."

How to lose friends and make law-abiding people who would support you into lifelong, well-armed enemies.

Blogger A trite re-white June 11, 2020 7:12 AM  

When the POTUS said during his 2016 campaign that America has been sold out by a political class etc... He certainly wasn't fibbing. Amazing how his enemies are behaving like he said. D Trump is celestial.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 7:13 AM  

>> As long as cops are strangers where they patrol, they won't be trusted by the locals.

It would take a lot more than that.

It would require a complete upheaval of modern "cop culture" of only hanging out in "cop bars" and not socializing with the neighbors on the excuse of "oh, I might witness an insignificant petty crime! And then I would have to write a citation or arrest my neighbor, and bring out all the neighbors against me!" (as opposed to, you know, just deciding to not be an adult-aged version of school "hall monitor")

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 11, 2020 7:15 AM  

Good points.

Blogger Skyler the Weird June 11, 2020 7:16 AM  

Is Blackwater hiring?

Blogger Troy Lee Messer June 11, 2020 7:17 AM  

Every time I here a pig whining about his condition I think of Kelly Thomas. The pigs took the ticket and chose the elite.

"There are a lot of factors in the loss of respect, and I think the biggest is the perception of laziness,
"
For me, it is the unfettered immunity. That pigs are outright allowed to beat people to death with no concequences.

Fuck em

Blogger RedJack June 11, 2020 7:19 AM  

And that is the truth. I had friends and family who became cops. At some point, they stopped being friends and family. One explained to me that a cop views every one as either cop or suspect, and of you weren't a cop you were at best a quiet felon.

So while I have empathy for some of them, not a huge amount

Blogger RedJack June 11, 2020 7:23 AM  

except I don't want most cops by me. Having to deal with the alcohol abuse, drug abuse, and brandishing a gun and badge while high without was enough. Oh, and her cop buddies telling us that reports of her mis conduct will lead to us being investigated.

Not every cop. But the good ones cover for the bad

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( LeBron James loves Asian Rape Farms and Slave Labor ) June 11, 2020 7:24 AM  

"Despite the most violent society we have ever seen"

leading with a lie is always a good look, homicide rates are not quite back down to the lows of the 1950s:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1b/Homicide_rates1900-2001.jpg


"Doctors kill 250,000 people a year. They call them “medical mistakes”"

and WAY more doctors ought to be prosecuted and convicted, thanks for reminding us.



"96% are attacking us with weapons"

what did Tony Timpa attack you with, his handcuffs?

Blogger rikjames.313 June 11, 2020 7:27 AM  

Cops did this to themselves through greed.

Several major suburban departments here pad retirements through the insurance association. A lot of the cops get high 3 Retirements (based on the highest three years of earnings). So they get 10 years on the job, get to the highest patrol or detective rank, and the union schedules them for the first OT year. The association pays them 4 hours of overtime for 10 violations or 1 DUI arrest. So the other cops help them spot, and they race over to grab a speeder, hopefully with worn tire tread, a cracked windshield and cracked taillight, who failed to sign the back of his registration (5/10 covered in 15 minutes) or they spot a guy leaving the sports bar, for the cop assigned to do his year to do a stop for weaving and ruin the guy's life over 3 beers.

I know captains who, on their 3rd year of the OT retirement schedule, literally have their shift spotting a guy, race over with just their desk gun, borrow cuffs to 'arrest' the middle class guy for that 3rd beer, and then the patrol 'assists them' by doing the processing. I know because I have been at events with them (I don't do criminal, but I do some legal work that intersects with the departments) where the same command officers get shitfaced and drive home. They laugh and brag.

Years ago I told the ones I liked they should chill out on some of the excesses. They didn't see why they would (mostly). I don't tell anyone anything anymore. The smart ones, though, move to the command rank cop island near the city--but not too near. Two bridges, and a small police force who is quick to pull over strangers.

Blogger Lawman June 11, 2020 7:35 AM  

I am a middle manager in one of the largest American city. A few weeks ago, our administration sent out a report to the higher-ups that I became privy to. The report regarded the citations written for enforcememt of coronavirus related orders from our very liberal political leadership. Less than 0.1% of our officers had written a citation. Enforcement was essentially nonexistent due to widespread resistance to the idea from the rank and file.

Blogger Dan in Georgia June 11, 2020 7:40 AM  

Twisted Root wrote:Quitting is a stupid move. Nothing is lost by going on strike first.

Sick-outs are more effective. Walking off the job is illegal and can result in loss of pension. Blue-flus are spectacularly effective, and easy to get going. Only need a few to call in sick and the rest get the message to join them.
"You feeling okay? I'm coming down with something too. You know?"
"(cough) Yeah, me too. Think I have a fever too (cough)"

Blogger Dan in Georgia June 11, 2020 7:42 AM  

Akulkis wrote:>> As long as cops are strangers where they patrol, they won't be trusted by the locals.

It would take a lot more than that.

It would require a complete upheaval of modern "cop culture" of only hanging out in "cop bars" and not socializing with the neighbors on the excuse of "oh, I might witness an insignificant petty crime! And then I would have to write a citation or arrest my neighbor, and bring out all the neighbors against me!" (as opposed to, you know, just deciding to not be an adult-aged version of school "hall monitor")


Gotta start somewhere. I'm talking about a VERY downsized force AND people able to be armed legally. IOW, a radical change. What they're doing now can't last much longer.

Blogger urthshu June 11, 2020 7:48 AM  

We're in an era of institutional failure, though I wasn't expecting the police to be one of them. So be it. Policing will be increasingly privatized and the poor, minorities, etc will have gangs.

Blogger FALPhil June 11, 2020 7:56 AM  

The combination of police unions, qualified immunity, militarization, asset seizures, affirmative action, and an unwillingness to convict genuinely bad cops resulted in a transformation from public servants keeping the peace to Law Enforcement Officers.

I would add to that list no-knock warrants, which, in essence is a symptom of laziness. Some of the most egregious examples cops killing innocents are the result of the execution of no-knock warrants at the wrong address. In Georgia a few years ago, an infant was murdered when cops executing a no-knock tossed a smoke grenade through a window and it landed in the victim's crib.

The other problem is that there are way too many laws on the books. Ignorance has become an excuse whether the rulers want to admit it or not. I read somewhere a few years ago that the average adult in the USA violates 4 federal statutes every day without knowing it. States and municipalities are not far behind. Under such conditions, policing becomes something akin to a racketeering enterprise, depending on what the emphasis du jour is.

Blogger Doktor Jeep June 11, 2020 8:09 AM  

Standing down while leftists beat people up, then swooping down on anybody defending themselves pretty much sealed the deal for me. Fuck the police.

Blogger John Regan June 11, 2020 8:10 AM  

Rather than de-funding police the US should consider abolishing the courts and the legal profession. There's more failure there than there is on the streets. A lot more. If disputes were handled in an administrative fashion like they were in the old Soviet Union there wouldn't be much difference.

I often say that the police get it right, or substantially right, about 75-80% of the time. The sole purpose of the rest of the system - all the lawyers, judges, juries, appeals, post conviction proceedings - is to catch the other 20-25%. It actually catches practically none of it More than anything else that's why we're having civil unrest. The police have the lesser culpability, and it's not right that there is so much agitation against them and not a word about the massive failure of lawyers, judges and courts.

New York's "Civil Rights Law" 50-A is a case in point. What a disgraceful story. To put a government secrecy statute in the chapter called "Civil Rights Law" to begin with. Then to enforce it as over and against the constitutional right of a criminal defendant to confrontation. So manifestly unlawful.

And that's all on the judiciary. Why is no one calling them out?

Blogger Unknown June 11, 2020 8:21 AM  

We dont blame individual teachers or doctors for the system in place. Alot of cops are good people in a bad system like everywhere else. Police are not responsible for the laws which are made. Yes they have a choice not to enforce unjust laws, but they are put in a situation where they have to make very tough choices. Should they put their livlihood on the line over a small fine? What hill to die on? My husband is a cop and plans to never hand out a covid fine (all his colleagues agree). How many people know about all the violations they see and dont give tickets for?

Blogger Cloudbuster June 11, 2020 8:25 AM  

I followed the RT link to that and then went to the link where it was originally posted:

https://www.lawofficer.com/america-we-are-leaving/

And I noticed something really odd. I read a lot of gun blogs and get referred pretty frequently to military and law enforcement sites, and what I noticed is that the male to female ratio on the comments to this post is really off. These sites are usually, frankly, a sausagefest, but it seems the comments to this article skew very heavily female. Law enforcement is still a very male-dominated profession.

Furthermore, a lot of the women have names that just don't ring right. They sound strangely artificial, but just very subtly so:

"Dixie Wock Wagner"
"Jeanette Regelin Neese"
"Dottie Cates Elrod"
"Deb Redfield Witherspoon"

The author himself appears to check out, but the comments section looks manufactured.

Blogger God Emperor Memes June 11, 2020 8:27 AM  

"Omni Consumer Products"

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 11, 2020 8:35 AM  

"It must be admitted that many U.S. police forces helped bring the present situation about, as since the 1980s they were methodically corrupted. "

Cocaine. Police stations become basically small bordering countries to the great USA nose-vacuum. Cheap coming in (picked up during busts), expensive going out (sold). It's not the only illicit drug but there's something about how it interfaces (internoses) with the police, maybe its universality. Speed and heroin are not for everyone, and have their own crowds. But people do those drugs at home with the curtains closed. Cocaine is done on bar tabletops and (notoriously) bathrooms, with total strangers. The shame is postponed.

Drug prohibition laws - the ruling class gift that keeps on giving.

1) Destroys small countries surrounding the trade. The century old heroin routes in Asia, the cartels' power in Mexico are examples.

2) Enriches the ruling class who import most of it. The Russel Trust, and the Cocaine Import Agency are old and new examples.

Drug laws are a late addition to the playbook, perhaps accidental, but I think they're a giant source of trouble.

Blogger Yossarian June 11, 2020 8:37 AM  

When people are under the impression that your job is not only pointless but also detrimental to their health of course they will call for your dismissal. True or not, only one way to find out: quit en masse and see what happens.

"I’ve seen cops risk their own lives when they shouldn’t have… just to keep from taking one. They never get the credit that other professions get."

I can tell this particular cop is in it just for the fancies and lollies. Jobs exist because they need to get done, not because someone wants credit. Obviously a person like him brings up the medical profession in light of all the positive coverage it got amidst the Covid pandemic.

>Travis Yates is a serving police commander in Tulsa, Oklahoma. He is a doctoral student in Strategic Leadership, a graduate of the FBI National Academy, and the author of "The Courageous Police Leader: A Survival Guide for Combating Cowards, Chaos & Lies”.

Good riddance, gamma.

Blogger Sam Gem June 11, 2020 8:38 AM  

Cops in my town camp on a high traffic stop sign. They hand out tickets there to make their quotas every month. Whether you come to a full stop or not does not matter at all, you may get a ticket. There is nothing you can do about it. This has been going on for years. Everyone knows about this stop sign.

The police here and in many places have become revenue generating order-following thugs that shake down their own citizens to fund corruption.

Blogger Jacksontown June 11, 2020 8:40 AM  

"Despite the most violent society we have ever seen"

Says who? Crime rates have been in freefall for years, even after all those "leftie" reforms that people claimed would bring us back to the bad old days of mid-20th century America when crime was out of control. Who is he trying to BS?

Blogger Ransom Smith June 11, 2020 8:41 AM  

I have no sympathy to spare.
The cops are the ones allowing the looting, rioting and protesting.
If they were honorable men, they'd March into the Mayor and Governor's chambers and arrest them.
But they stand back and take orders.

Blogger ZhukovG June 11, 2020 8:42 AM  

One problem with police, from my experience, is that the profession is a natural Gamma magnet.

Alphas and Sigmas have power because they are Alphas and Sigmas. The Gamma thinks that it is power that creates the Alpha or Sigma. Thus, the Gamma seeks 'magical artifacts' to make him Alpha. A Badge, a Gun, a Uniform, and Legal Authority. They become bullies and driven by emotion, tend to overreact.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 11, 2020 8:44 AM  

The big city cops are finding out that come the Glorious Revolution, they will be the bodies in the ditch, not the commissar who ordered their murder. I'd say ``welcome to our side,'' but we don't want them.

The us vs. them attitude is an inevitable consequence of diversity.

Blogger Balkan Yankee June 11, 2020 8:50 AM  

In many jurisdictions, cops are also tax collectors in disguise.

Blogger Ghost Tiger June 11, 2020 8:51 AM  

This is really excellent analysis. The cops chose to be minions to their despicable masters, and now that their masters have betrayed them, they can expect no sympathy from the people. Amen VD

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 9:04 AM  

@6 "The cops brought that to themselves with their arrogance and being mindless tools of the deep-state. "I just did my job, boo ho"

I'm a little surprised at the level of vitriol and anger being poured out at cops HERE -- not just everywhere else by aboriginals and jew-led commies. This cop is not wrong that "we" do nothing about bad doctors -- and yes, neither do their doctor-peers: docs have a white-coat-line, not a blue line: no diff!

How do y'all expect the guaranteed midwit -- cause police depts only hire midwits -- to do anything to STOP the inversion of their own workforces?

We chortle when leftie professors finally get their comeuppance; we sympathize and offer advice for job-hunting or preps to move/change jobs to OUR folks who made the mistake of speaking up or speaking out, or just noticing, as their cohort is degraded.

I'm furious at the Feebs "rank-and-file" that so many keep saying are "NOT the corrupt ones; it's the higher ranks" ... but it was the Feeb "rank-and-file" who got all geared up and SWATTED Roger Stone! I try to give them the benefit of the powerless -- why didn't ANY of them refuse or even ask WHY they were (not actually) risking life and limb to pick up a old geezer? And choose to get fired and reprimanded for insubordination?

How many of us have swallowed hard and gone along with stupid, bad, or evil directives and requirements. "Just following orders" actually IS an excuse; except the jews used it as yet-another-weapon against German Whites -- and then embedded it as a future weapon against every White person everywhere.

We here also counsel OUR people how to keep their heads down, go along as far as they can without getting fired or doxxed or otherwise destroyed by our ubiquitous enemies. And, we hope, without losing their souls or sanity.

Vox just reassured the Patreon-doxxed Bears that they'll be okay ... in the long run. I have absolute trust that Vox and the Legal Legion will do *everything* in their power to protect -- or ameliorate -- whatever bad might happen to those Bears. Will that be enough? Ask Zach Voohees or Lt Gen Flynn: they serve as an example of what 'resisting' can end up doing. And remember both of them are exceedingly intelligent; midwit police are guaranteed not to be.

Expecting midwit cops to NOT 'go along' as the ground underneath them is cut out -- anyone remember Abu Ghraib? -- might be the right thing, but it may not be possible. Yes, "cops only work for their pensions," and for the adrenaline rush, and "to get home to their families," in the midst of the war they are fighting, when most of Americans don't know there IS a war. Salutary pix on TV right now; will it make a dent in normies?

Do any of us do anything different? We excuse, or wish to exile, the aboriginals whom we KNOW cannot follow normal civilization standards ... but we acknowledge that most of them are not really capable of being any more than animals out of their zoo cages. If you were a zookeeper and all the animals were loose, would you rather try to herd-up and return to their cages the not-so-dangerous "White" animals, or go after the ones that could, would, and do kill zoo keepers -- and are always allowed to get away with it? Especially knowing 100% that your bosses and the owner of the zoo will sacrifice YOU on the altar of (only) "dangerous animal lies matter"!?

Are 'we' expecting way more than most individual cops are personally capable of, and merely viewing them through our enemy's lens of the monolithic army that is "the police"? And 'we' not wishing they cops could begin just shooting the damned rioters and cleaning up the streets?

Blogger Mr.MantraMan June 11, 2020 9:12 AM  

You want conservative dopiness, Matt Bracken linked to Kyle Kalishuv's twitter post/video of a guy getting lynched by some blacks and it was titled "what happens when you defund the police."

So the kid went to a school where the D-party police practiced safety for themselves, then the kid posts a video where if the guy getting lynched had used a firearm to defend himself the cops would have arrested him, instead some poor pension suckers had to fill out some paperwork and from the video make some chalk lines.

F*ck the Empire

Blogger The Course of Empire June 11, 2020 9:24 AM  

and here I thought Robocop was just SciFi.

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 9:24 AM  


@7 "the cops have stood aside and let antifa and company destroy property... "

Would you truly have the cops begin to decide which LAWS they will and won't apply? When Garner was allowed to die for selling 'singles' lots of the zoo animal -- and lots of protected/unaware Whites -- were screaming that the cops should have refused to enforce that specific LAW, legally passed by the legislature. My argument was and is: we do NOT want cops to decided not their own, individually, each time, which laws they will and won't enforce. NOT. THEIR. JOB. If the people screaming about selling singles what the cop to not enforce that law -- they they need to force the legislature to CHANGE that law.

When the mayor and city council tell the cops to stand down -- would you have each individual cop decide for himself whether or not he will do as ordered? Because I'm angry, I throw the responsibility back where it belongs, on the aboriginals and stupid Whites who voted in that mayor and council; and the state legislators, and the police chief-politician and the fed pols who degraded that response-agency as well. This is what they wanted? May they get long, hard, and painful!

@27 "The cops have done a lot to signal they are on the side of the people who hate them"

You're discounting the -- was it 52? -- cops who resigned from the ERU when the two cops pushing that antifa geezer over were arrested. Rock and a hard place. Defund the police means: "they're takin' ur jobs!" When 33+ MILLION Americans have filed for unemployment, which does not count at all the ones who lost their jobs but could not or did not file, you expect the cops to all quit and find another job?

You/we expect NOTHING of aboriginals, but I suggest maybe we are expecting WAY to much from midwit police who legitimately see "us vs them" because THEY are on the front lines of the internal undeclared war tearing our civilization down!

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 9:26 AM  

@11 "They've been enforcing bad laws too long"

That is their *job*!

And NOT their fault!

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 11, 2020 9:32 AM  

"They never get the credit that other professions get."

This kind of thing is why it's hard to sympathize with cops even when they're right. Is he kidding? Most law-abiding Americans still treat the cops as one of the professions that's immune to criticism, like teachers: always underpaid and overworked. From Andy Griffith to Hill Street Blues to CSI, cops on TV are almost always portrayed as the good guys, and when one is corrupt, he's the exception. That went into overdrive after 9/11, when wearing a NYPD or NYFD hat was the most patriotic thing you could do, and it hasn't really worn off yet. They get *constant* credit, much of it now unearned.

And he says no one has their back. I guess that's why when a cop kills an innocent person or gets caught beating up a suspect for fun, the worst he ever faces is some paid administrative leave and an inevitable not-guilty ruling. Because of all the not-back-having. Poor things.

I don't blame them for being upset about the way they're being used here, but there's a reason a cop can work for 20 years and retire with an awesome pension while his neighbor the construction worker has to labor away for another couple decades: it's assumed to be more risky and be held to a higher standard. We don't hold them to a higher standard anymore, so they're getting paid for the assumed risk.

Blogger RandyB June 11, 2020 9:36 AM  

The police became militarized because Diversity + Proximity = War. They became the occupying army to prevent that War, and thus cities became police states.
That this fulfilled the power fantasies of those who control the cities, culturally, politically, and economically, was seen as a net positive by the controllers.

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 9:40 AM  

@15 ""oh, I might witness an insignificant petty crime!"

And there's an example of the rock and hard place. Decades ago when I was a Naval officer in Philly, my parents came to visit, and we went out to lunch, off base, at Burger King. Philly Naval Shipyard rules were iron-clad: enlisted were not allowed to wear 'working uniform'(dungarees) off base; they has to change into daily uniform. Stupid rule? Yeah, sure, probably. Did it matter that it was stupid? No, I took an oath -- as did they -- to obey all legal orders. Was changing out of dungarees to go off base a legal order? Yes.

So, my parents and I were sitting in the farthest back table, as far as I could get them from the order/pick-up counter. Some enlisted came in up front wearing dungarees, and I said, "oh hell, I hope they don't try to exit back here, because I will have to say something."

My father, old WWII draftee, barked "typical effing officer!"

"Yes. Yes I am. If you want to play on this ball field, you have to play by the rules. I did NOT write the stupid rules, but I have to enforce them: it is my job, no matter my preference/choice."

Are y'all not saying I should have picked and chosen which legal orders I was going to enforce, and blown off the ones I didn't like?

When the girl I was throwing out of the Navy, after several other/lesser punishments for smoking dope came and asked me to not do that because, you know, 'it was just dope.' I told her: "not gonna happen: it was your choice: you may EITHER smoke dope or be in the Navy. You cannot have both. If you want one more than the other, you take the consequences of that one."

The second was a legal order I supported; the first not-so-much. Should EVERY junior officer in the military be able to pick and choose what to enforce and what to ignore? Why do you think the cops should be different?

Blogger ZhukovG June 11, 2020 9:41 AM  

I do have to wonder. Is it all happenstance? Is it just the natural degradation of an Empire reaching end of life? Or is this all driven by a plan?

Have the Globalists decided that the USA no longer serves their purposes and must be fractured? Perhaps they think, if enough chaos and violence erupt, we will beg for UN 'Peacekeepers'.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 11, 2020 9:44 AM  

That is their *job*!

And NOT their fault!

You're wrong.
They made their choice first when they became police officers, and second when they enforced the rule of the state.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia June 11, 2020 9:49 AM  

All in all, it strikes me as an excellent time to launch a private security corporation.

Not blowing smoke, but I was actually thinking the same thing.

I bet right now the senior management meetings at the established firms are very interesting.

Can you imagine before the riots if the third and fifth precincts shops and businesses in Minneapolis had the blackest guys a security firm could find walking the street with sunglasses, AK-47s and vests?

It may not have stopped all the looting, but it would have certainly dampened some of the enthusiasm.

Blogger VD June 11, 2020 9:50 AM  

Are 'we' expecting way more than most individual cops are personally capable of, and merely viewing them through our enemy's lens of the monolithic army that is "the police"? And 'we' not wishing they cops could begin just shooting the damned rioters and cleaning up the streets?

The poor sweet boys of the police force don't need your mothering them, Avalanche.

You are always wrong about these things and always for the same reason. I suggest you stop trying to lecture everyone else and take a look at the obvious flaws in your emotion-based reasoning.

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 9:53 AM  

@37 "If they were honorable men, they'd March into the Mayor and Governor's chambers and arrest them.
But they stand back and take orders."

Arrest the mayor and governor for the crime of ....? Being an evil leftist elected BY THE PEOPLE of the city? But you fer sure want the God Emperor re-elected.

Is it "election laws for thee, not for me"?

And if they were honorable men, they'd SHOOT the d@mned rioters and looters! And then they'd get sent away amongst those zoo animals with no protection. If WE were 'honorable men' we'd've done something to not put them in the no-win position they are in!

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos June 11, 2020 9:59 AM  

Good old sheriff of Nottingham, all over again.

Blogger VD June 11, 2020 10:05 AM  

And then they'd get sent away amongst those zoo animals with no protection.

You're lying. Police almost never even get charged for shooting people, not even when they are unarmed and sitting in their homes without a warrant.

Should EVERY junior officer in the military be able to pick and choose what to enforce and what to ignore? Why do you think the cops should be different?

The police are not the military, Avalanche. Are you really unable to distinguish the two? Furthermore, the police already choose what to enforce and what to ignore every single day.

You really need to stop emoting now.

Blogger Ray - SoCal June 11, 2020 10:05 AM  

Excellent Post and responses.

The book 3 Felonies a Day is frightening. It’s a dry read.

All types of immunity should be removed, they are a judicial invention.

NY Union is threatening to sue those that assaulted cops, if no prosecution.

Federal Court has a 95% conviction rate, due to over charging and use if plea bargain. If Flynn had to plead guilty due to Prosecution Actions, what if a regular person.

Conrad Black wrote of the corruption:
https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_1110623

Blogger Shane Bradman June 11, 2020 10:09 AM  

Police were turned into a paramilitary by republican elites and as it turns out, weirdly, people hate being loomed over by people with guns. Police chiefs are the most corrupt people on the planet and the police force did nothing about it for decades. Now they're all being punished in this Greek tragedy currently called America.

Blogger Gulo Gulo June 11, 2020 10:12 AM  

Most guys in law enforcement are gammas. The uniform and "power" are what make them situational alphas. I saw this way back in college when I was majoring in criminal justice.
Meanwhile..our states Commercial Vehicle Unit is continuing to harass many of our local timber haulers. The arabs and africans driving for the over the road fleets get a pass..but the green card joystick monkeys get left alone. So predictable.
The collapse of the current policing paradigm is long overdue. None of the police receive my sympathy.

Blogger Jeroth June 11, 2020 10:19 AM  

There are so many legitimate criticisms of the police, yet they are getting lynched for the most illegitimate of all of them. That's what you get for choosing ZOG over the American people.

Maybe next time don't send out sniper teams to enforce drag pedo story hour.

Blogger Unknown June 11, 2020 10:19 AM  

What's the difference between Jews crusading to abolish the police and Jews crusading to smash the state?

Answer: one group is called "libertarians," the other group is called "anarchists."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 11, 2020 10:23 AM  

Avalanche wrote:My argument was and is: we do NOT want cops to decided not their own, individually, each time, which laws they will and won't enforce.
Yes, we do.
Avalanche wrote: NOT. THEIR. JOB.
Yes, it is.

Cops who cannot understand and enforce the rules of our society rather than their king's law, who cannot keep the peace rather than enforce the law, have no place in our society.

Blogger Katusov June 11, 2020 10:27 AM  

The other problem is that there are way too many laws on the books. Ignorance has become an excuse whether the rulers want to admit it or not. I read somewhere a few years ago that the average adult in the USA violates 4 federal statutes every day without knowing it. States and municipalities are not far behind.

"The more tyrannical the state, the more numerous its laws" Tacitus

Blogger Barbarossa June 11, 2020 10:31 AM  

@49 You must have been a joy for your shipmates to be around. And to answer your question, yes, every NCO and officer does pick and choose what to enforce and what to ignore. Must pick what to enforce and ignore.

During the course of my lengthy career, I have taken a watch for a fellow officer who came back from liberty stumbling drunk. He was my shipmate, and I wasn't going to let him down in a moment of poor judgment. One of my men missed ship's movement and somehow flagged down a water taxi to chase us down. Without slowing down, he clambered up the Jacob's ladder before we reached the breakwater. My chief and I watched the entire thing unfold, and we looked at each other. "Did you see anything?" I asked. "I didn't see nuttin'," he replied. End of the story. Perhaps in your mind he should have been dragged into captain's mast. In my mind, he was a young man enjoying life, who demonstrated great resourcefulness and hopefully learned a valuable lesson.

I have also kicked out losers and miscreants. With great joy, I ended the career of a staff officer who thought she was above the law. Did the same for a fellow senior officer who thought he was on deployment to improve his tan and not carry out the mission.

Were they all in violation of some portion of the UCMJ? Why did I overlook some and prosecute others? Because a military leader must have discernment. "It's in the regs/field manual/TTP" is the refuge of the incompetent, the unimaginative, the weak.

Blogger Submitted2Christ June 11, 2020 10:34 AM  

hear! hear!

Blogger ZhukovG June 11, 2020 10:48 AM  

@Avalanche: I used to be part of the Badge and Gun gang. I had a great deal of latitude when it came to enforcing minor things like traffic laws.

The primary goal of a good Police Officer is to protect the safety and security of law abiding citizens and their property. Not to be a petty tyrant or get payback 'cause I wasn't popular in High School.

Blogger Nostromo June 11, 2020 10:51 AM  

Cops do this every time the make a stop. They are judge and jury before you get to a judge and jury.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 11, 2020 10:55 AM  

Arrest the mayor and governor for the crime of ....?
The idiot Governor of Virginia was having the police arrest pastors for violating "social distancing guidelines".
If that isn't an illegal tyrannical action to you, I hate to think what would be.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer June 11, 2020 11:02 AM  

"They never get the credit that other professions get."

I'll give this pig his gold star when all this Republic sanitation guys get thiers considering hiw much they have to do with this civilization thing.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 11:02 AM  

"I'm a little surprised at the level of vitriol and anger being poured out at cops HERE -- not just everywhere else by aboriginals and jew-led commies. This cop is not wrong that "we" do nothing about bad doctors -- and yes, neither do their doctor-peers: docs have a white-coat-line, not a blue line: no diff!"

Doctors generally have little to no ability to police each other, as they tend to work in isolation, even when part of a collection of different doctors treating the same patient.

Cops, on the other hand, often work in teams. They know who the "I've got a badge!" bullies are, the ones whose perceptions are extremely skewed, writing up something which is within normal, legal "in bounds" variation as an "out of bounds" infraction, etc.), claiming someone is "resisting arrest" when there was never grounds for an arrest in the first place, etc.

They know who the assholes are, who are not to be trusted with such power and authority, and yet they remain quiet. They don't report the problems to their superiors, and they sure as hell don't report them to the press.

Blogger Reprehensible Adam June 11, 2020 11:07 AM  

We need Robo Cop.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 11:13 AM  

"Expecting midwit cops to NOT 'go along' as the ground underneath them is cut out -- anyone remember Abu Ghraib?"

When the Abu Ghraib scandal broke out, everybody in my infantry battalion was HORRIFIED that *any* American military personnel were involved in such conduct, let alone actually committing it themselves, as such behavior violated every class and briefing we had received for YEARS concerning the Geneva Convention rules regarding the handling of POWs and other detainees.

The fact that they were obeying instructions coming from CIA people (who are generally NOT ever taught anything about the Geneva Convention) just added to the idiocy -- why were they taking instructions from people who not only weren't in their chain of command, but weren't even in the military?

The behavior of the MPs at Abu Ghraib was a reflection of American "cop culture" (as most reserve and national guard MPs are police in their civilian jobs, too) in which all to many believe themselves to be the embodiment of the law itself.

The conduct was absolutely disgraceful for any military personnel. And having served in Iraq, and been attacked by the brothers in arms of those who were subjected to these acts, I still cannot condone the behavior. The Geneva Convention is there to PROTECT soldiers, other legal combatants, and innocent civilians when captured. As the Bush administration refused to allow classification of these people as illegal combatants (fighting without ANY sort of identifiable uniform, not even an arm-band, for the express purpose of NOT being descernable from non-combatants), then there was an obligation to treat them as protected individuals, EVEN THOUGH they did not deserve it.

Blogger FALPhil June 11, 2020 11:13 AM  

@42 I'm a little surprised at the level of vitriol and anger being poured out at cops HERE -- not just everywhere else by aboriginals and jew-led commies. This cop is not wrong that "we" do nothing about bad doctors -- and yes, neither do their doctor-peers: docs have a white-coat-line, not a blue line: no diff!

You are only surprised because you haven't thought it completely through. And there is a huge difference between doctors and cops.

Doctors are a voluntary thing. In doctor-patient transactions, 99 times out of a hundred, the patient is engaging the doctor, not the other way around. Conversely, when a person has an interaction with a cop, 99 times out of a hundred the cop is engaging the person, not the other way around. The purpose of doctors is some attempt at helping the patient, who is their customer. The purpose of cops is to project the power of the state, who is their customer. Most people can disengage with a doctor if they are not happy with him. Try doing that with a cop that has taken an interest in you.

Blogger Attila is my bro June 11, 2020 11:15 AM  

Exactly, not to mention that, at least in the beginning, cops will act as enforcers for the state. Then if they decide to switch sides, who will become their allies and protectors? No one because they alienated all sides. But muh penshunz and all that jazz... If Vox's timeline is accurate, it's a very bad time to be a cop.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 11:16 AM  

>> Would you truly have the cops begin to decide which LAWS they will and won't apply?

They already do, and have been for some time, and their behavior over the last few years has made it obvious.
Since when are arson and rioting legal?
Since when is beating someone for exercising free speech rights legal?

Cops in Democrat strongholds have been letting leftists commit felonies right before their eyes and done NOTHING other than arrest anybody who tries to (lawfully) defend themselves against the leftist mobs.

Screw them.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 11:25 AM  

>>Arrest the mayor and governor for the crime of ....? Being an evil leftist elected BY THE PEOPLE of the city? But you fer sure want the God Emperor re-elected.

Dereliction of Duty for One.
Aiding and Abetting felonies (stand down orders, etc.)
Accessory after the fact (for stand down orders, etc.)

Combined together, this makes them party to insurrection and even treason. The fact that many of them have been coordinating with the rioters via back-channel communications makes them conspirators.

Mayor of Minneapolis, the DA, the Governor of Minnesota and the Attorney General should all be hanged by the neck until dead for taking part in this conspiracy to encourage the riots and fan the flames through their inaction in the face of duty obligations of the offices they fill.

Blogger FALPhil June 11, 2020 11:30 AM  

@45 Would you truly have the cops begin to decide which LAWS they will and won't apply? When Garner was allowed to die for selling 'singles' lots of the zoo animal -- and lots of protected/unaware Whites -- were screaming that the cops should have refused to enforce that specific LAW, legally passed by the legislature. My argument was and is: we do NOT want cops to decided not their own, individually, each time, which laws they will and won't enforce. NOT. THEIR. JOB.

This is a specious argument.

So what if the legislature passed a law concerning selling singles? Does it require deadly force to address such a crime? Aren't there real hoodlums causing murder and mayhem which would seem a higher priority?

I think the incident you are alluding to is a poster child for selective enforcement, where the cops did exactly the thing you are decrying. Are the cops checking the mayor's security detail to ensure that their permits to carry weapons are in order? If they don't, they are NOT. DOING. THEIR. JOB.

Every cop does selective enforcement. As I mentioned before, there are so many laws on the books that no one knows what they all are, and considering most departments have IQ ceilings for their potential hires, why would you expect them to be capable of doing anything more than selective enforcement?

Blogger JM June 11, 2020 11:34 AM  

The most overlooked cause of police brutality: Israel and the ADL.

They train in Israel or are trained by Israelis. They get free trips to Israel paid for by the ADL. They act like an occupying army, treating US citizens like terrorists.

Google it. There's plenty of articles out there about this. Here's one:
https://theintercept.com/2017/09/15/police-israel-cops-training-adl-human-rights-abuses-dc-washington/

Blogger liberranter June 11, 2020 11:36 AM  

Cry me a river, porko.

As many others have stated here, you and the rest of your fat, blue-clad enforcers for the Power Elite brought evey ounce of this upon yourselves.

Quit if you want to. You won't be missed. There are many of us who would never even consider relying on you and your fellow thugs in blue in anything resembling an emergency. You've proven yourselves worse than useless in such situations.

We're capable of protecting ourselves, and the biggest threat once you clowns are put out of work will be former blue gang members joining the non-state-sanctioned criminal gangs.

Blogger Newscaper312 June 11, 2020 11:47 AM  

One of my beefs with the police in general is that for all the militarization, up to and including slaps in the wrist for no knock raids that kill innocent s at wrong addresses... They are still almost completely useless during active shooter incidents even when on scene in time, all these years after their terrible failure at Columbine.

Blogger Newscaper312 June 11, 2020 11:51 AM  

@Akulkis
Apart from issue of illegal combatant or not, the protections for *legal* combatants was still based on reciprocity in the Convention. Our failure to enforce that aspect was also a disgrace and a betrayal.

Blogger liberranter June 11, 2020 12:05 PM  

@11 "They've been enforcing bad laws too long"

That is their *job*!

And NOT their fault!


It IS their fault to the extent that they chose to enter a profession in which they knew they would be forced to enforce bad law.

Blogger Warunicorn June 11, 2020 12:07 PM  

When I went to get my concealed carry permit, the instructor for the safety class (which is required here) is a Massachusetts State Police officer. He emphatically stated that his brothers-in-arms don't want us to have guns. I imagine the guff he gets for doing what he does on the side but he doesn't care. His classes are usually full every time.

Blogger jkmack June 11, 2020 12:28 PM  

@42 The cops are the Jew led commies.

That is why you are seeing the vitriol.

I personally have been saying this for over 20 years, so it was apparent even before Obama did what he did to weaponize all government agencies. It has only gotten worse. 911 was the tipping point, when all resistance to anti-constitutional, anti-humane actions were removed. You could even see it in the media. Cop shows would portray gross violations as just incidental to the story, not the focus of the story, as if it was just assumed that cops act this way.

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 12:40 PM  

@51 "They made their choice first when they became police officers, and second when they enforced the rule of the state."

They made the choice to do the thing they swore to do? You expect a 20-ish midwit to know the truth of govt corruption? DO you excuse the vast majority of Americans who never learn it by age 40? Did YOU at age 20ish know how corrupt this world/country is? Well, congrats, maybe: you're NOT an ill-educated midwit kid who wants to "help people by enforcing the law" they still believe in!

Or do you think no one ever should become a cop because reasons? Or do you think THEY should somehow have the power to change the laws, which ever laws they choose, whenever they wish?

Or are you in the "Defund the Police and let community enforc... er... social workers do it movement? Yeah that's the ticket! SOCIAL workers!" THheycan go in and stop domestic violence or catch Big Gentle Mike roughing up a shopkeeper. Yeah, not a world *I* want to be in!

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 12:43 PM  

@56 VD: "You really need to stop emoting now."

Sorry. Will do.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 12:44 PM  

>> Apart from issue of illegal combatant or not, the protections for *legal* combatants was still based on reciprocity in the Convention. Our failure to enforce that aspect was also a disgrace and a betrayal.

I wish.

The Geneva Convention does NOT state that the articles must only be upheld when fighting against another GC signatory. It obligates all GC signers to uphold the conventions in ALL international conflicts, regardless of who the opponent is.

This has been true since before I joined the military in the late 1980's and is still true today. The Geneva Convention is a MANDATORY, annual 1-hour block of instruction for all reserve component personnel.

Blogger Ska_Boss June 11, 2020 12:47 PM  

The problem with working at/with the public sector is MPAI.

Blogger Haus frau June 11, 2020 12:53 PM  

"Doctors kill 250,000 people a year. They call them “medical mistakes”"

and WAY more doctors ought to be prosecuted and convicted, thanks for reminding us."

Police need to carry individual malpractice insurance policies. When they get to many misconduct violations, etc. They lose the policy and can no longer. If doctors kill so many people how is that police are held legally less individually accountable for their actions than doctors?
This officer's screed againt the public shows a complete lack of self awareness. They opened the door for radical marxists like blm due to their own corruption.

Blogger Dorvannnn June 11, 2020 12:57 PM  

My first interaction as a cop was as a teenager with three of my friends. His whole attitude indicated to me the reason he became a cop was so he give orders to people. He was just barking orders at us and he searched each of us and our backpacks. The whole time he was doing this he had a big smile across his face like he was having the time of his life. He was so disappointed he didn't find any booze and drugs on us. He just told us to leave, got back in his car, an drove off.

He had just been hired by our small town a few months before and ended up leaving abruptly a few months a later. Allegedly he pulled over a daughter of one of the selectman and gave a "body search" groping her breasts and ass/

So like others have said the police definitely attracts gammas who want to wear the uniform to have "authority".

Blogger Avalanche June 11, 2020 12:58 PM  

@72 "The behavior of the MPs at Abu Ghraib was a reflection of American "cop culture""

I counseled a vet who was there; was dismayed and upset by both the actions and the aftermath; and said our soldiers were using the techniques of the IDF, who were there: "brought in" to teach them how to handle and break the prisoners.

Do I know if he was telling the truth? I do not, but he was very unwillingly awakening to the reality of "who runs the world": more than anything, he wanted to go back to help protect his fellow soldiers in the theater, and didn't know how to balance the two.

That 'knee restraint? It's taught all over the world to cops BY Israelis. It's not "from America."

https://israelpalestinenews.org/minn-cops-trained-by-israeli-police-who-often-use-knee-on-neck-restraint/

Notice the final picture.
https://christiansfortruth.com/israeli-consul-confirms-over-100-minneapolis-police-officers-received-israeli-anti-terror-training-in-2012/

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella June 11, 2020 1:06 PM  

20+ years ago met a former sheriff who said a cartel plane would land in a small town. They would go see the police station. They would tell chief, we will kill you now, or you will ignore us, and we will land drugs here. All up and down Midwest. They had giant guns, so it's not like they didn't look like they were going to kill them right them.

I don't know how it relates, but it was 25 years ago that it had been happening for the previous 10 years.

Blogger Zaklog the Great June 11, 2020 1:21 PM  

Off topic, but fans of Rachel Fulton Brown on Unauthorized may enjoy her appearance elsewhere to talk about John Donne.

Blogger MaskettaMan June 11, 2020 1:46 PM  

This LEO should form and train a militia of men with conscience. As more honest men quit the police in black areas and move to white areas, they will form a nice little pool of discipline men with training to draw on when the civil war breaks out.

I encourage all LEOs with conscience to move to white areas and, if they must retire, train young men who are willing to continue the fight.

Blogger VFM Bear June 11, 2020 1:48 PM  

Dorvannnn wrote:So like others have said the police definitely attracts gammas who want to wear the uniform to have "authority".

Yup, Cartmann the cop in South Park sums it up nicely, Respec my authoritah!

Blogger liberranter June 11, 2020 1:49 PM  

One of my beefs with the police in general is that for all the militarization, up to and including slaps in the wrist for no knock raids that kill innocent s at wrong addresses... They are still almost completely useless during active shooter incidents even when on scene in time, all these years after their terrible failure at Columbine.

All that surplus GI Joe gear isn't for taking on armed, hardened criminals. It's for mowing down unarmed civilians who don't "comply" with porky's State employers' dictatorial fiats.

Blogger Wazdakka June 11, 2020 2:08 PM  

Spent 13 years in the met.
It was level 5 converged when I joined. There needs to be a level 6 for where its at now.

For everyone whinging about getting a traffic ticket, have you formed a petition, written to your local politicians, asked local police why they do it, or just moaned pointlessly online?

Blogger Jack Amok June 11, 2020 2:22 PM  

There are a lot of factors in the loss of respect, and I think the biggest is the perception of laziness, that they would rather come down hard on someone unthreatening than do the work to take out a violent thug. So then what is the point of them?


Yes. When I was 21, I got a ticket for unknowingly violating an ordnance against having a glass container at a park. A little under $200 bucks, and the two SDPD cops writing the ticket were rude, condescending and obnoxious. While they were busy being pricks, some dirtbag was breaking into my car and stealing my stereo a hundred yards away in the parking lot. When I discovered this and went to report it, nobody at the SDPD had the time of day for me. "Come back tomorrow, my shift ends in fifteen minutes."

So I'm having a hard time finding my empathy. They're unreliable in an emergency and an everpresent threat to non-criminals in ordinary times. I'd be incredibly supportive of a police force that actually delivered something like 50's TV shows portrayed, if we had that. In general we don't. Some isolated pockets at best. Our local small city PD is okay - but it's a struggle to keep them that way.

The police have the lesser culpability, and it's not right that there is so much agitation against them and not a word about the massive failure of lawyers, judges and courts.

Of course the courts are abject failures, but it's the police who enforce the rulings of these abject failures. A lot easier to reform a system after you get rid of it's armed guards.

Blogger Boaty Bear June 11, 2020 3:00 PM  

There's somewhere in the region of 4000 British Army tasked with removing stuff from the internet!

As Ex BA I'm pissed right off, they wouldn't have got me doing that... but then, I'm not a die-verity hire.

Blogger Oswald June 11, 2020 3:00 PM  

I already got the services of a private security company made up Mr. Smith, Mr. Wessen, and Mr. Ruger. Around the clock protection it is.

America has been on the slide for along time. The push for gun freedoms is a direct result of the people recognizing that the Police are either not able to be there in time or will likely do nothing about any serious situation that may arise.

Blogger AbnEng June 11, 2020 3:04 PM  

When I read "authority" I keep seeing Cartmann from South Park in his cop uniform riding his big wheel and saying "you must respect my au-tori-tay".

Blogger B June 11, 2020 3:05 PM  

In the '50s I was a child living in Plainfield, N.J. It was a time when "beat cops" patroled the neighborhoods on foot, alone. We kids got to know them. They talked to us and we talked to them. No doubt, the beat cops also had acquaintance with store owners and clerks and the folk who were our neighbors. As a result, we viewed the beat cop as another human being, and not as a straw man in a blue uniform. Everything changed in the '60s & '70s. No more beat cops. Instead all patrols were done behind the wheel of a black & white (or blue & white, depending on your locality). The personal touch was gone. No one knew the man behind the wheel who sped past us. We felt a bit uneasy, not so safe -- as though we now had to fend for ourselves.
I truly believe that the disappearance of the beat cop was the beginning of the spiralling into chaos that we are experiencing today.
R.I.P. beat cop.

Blogger Storm Rhode June 11, 2020 3:27 PM  

Without cops how will cities collect revenue for the courts and keep Federal workers in prisons gainfully employed. The parasitic system needs cops to survive.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd June 11, 2020 3:27 PM  

No good guys in this fight. Whether Antifa and BLM or the cops win, we're going to have to finish the winner.

Blogger Storm Rhode June 11, 2020 3:35 PM  

The system has been used against the people for a long time. If armed guards get out of the way a purge will fix things in short order. Maybe BLM is on the right track.

Blogger Storm Rhode June 11, 2020 3:42 PM  

I expect them to recognize bad cops are being protected from consequences as well as how professional courtesy works with the first 30 days of employment. Once they go along with it they're corrupted.

Blogger liberranter June 11, 2020 5:13 PM  

In the '50s I was a child living in Plainfield, N.J.

I'd have to guess that that made you one of the last white kids to live in Plainfield (I grew up in nearby Scotch Plains in the '60s).

I have to believe that the "darkening" of Plainfield during the 50s and 60s is what ultimately killed the neighborhood patrols/beat cops. I can remember in 1967, when I was in First Grade, my parents talking about an attack on a white cop in Plainfield by a bunch of dindus who beat him, ran him over with shopping carts, and then shot him with his own service gun. So clearly the rot had already set in by the late 60s. The conclusion, obviously, is that the darker a municipality, the more impractical, if not preposterous, the idea of "community policing."

Blogger liberranter June 11, 2020 5:15 PM  

No good guys in this fight. Whether Antifa and BLM or the cops win, we're going to have to finish the winner.

Fervent hope that they all annihilate each other.

Blogger Akulkis June 11, 2020 5:43 PM  

>> I encourage all LEOs with conscience to move to white areas and, if they must retire, train young men who are willing to continue the fight.

No. Absolutely not.

The National Guard does that job MUCH better.

Blogger Doctor Mayhem June 11, 2020 6:03 PM  

Hard for me to feel sorry for this pig. He sure wasn't speaking up when people were getting arrested for wrongthink. Screw him and screw his profession. The pigs have been backing up Antifa and BLM and they get what they fucking deserve.

Blogger SciVo June 11, 2020 6:30 PM  

Wazdakka wrote:For everyone whinging about getting a traffic ticket, have you formed a petition, written to your local politicians, asked local police why they do it, or just moaned pointlessly online?

Are you sure it's pointless? Gossip is very powerful. I've personally only had good experiences with cops, yet I'm aware of the rep they've developed and how they earned it.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 11, 2020 6:31 PM  

One problem with police, from my experience, is that the profession is a natural Gamma magnet.

I read an article once, by an ex-cop I think, that said most cops were either bullies or the bullied in school. The bullies went into it because they wanted to keep pushing people around, and the bullied did it because they wanted to get back at the world while protected by a badge. Sounds about right.

And yes, I do want a cop to be able to make reasonable, contextual, common-sense decisions when he deals with people. If you assume that the cops are so untrustworthy and dangerous that you have to bind them with strict rules and turn them into automatons, that's pretty screwed up. You're better off without them in that case.

The one time I had a serious encounter with police, they were polite and followed the rules, but that was the scary part: it was clear that they would follow any rules, no matter how stupid or ill-fitting to the situation. They had no curiosity about why they were doing what they were doing, and they were fine with that. Which means if they'd been given orders to be a whole lot less polite, they probably would have been fine with that too.

Blogger Damelon Brinn June 11, 2020 6:43 PM  

I encourage all LEOs with conscience to move to white areas and, if they must retire, train young men who are willing to continue the fight.

Train them to do what? Collect impromptu taxes for the state via speeding and seat belt tickets? Arrest a man when his woman gets mad and calls the cops, and then let him go the next day when she cools off and realizes she still wants him? Show up and take down some notes when you call in a theft, and then file it away to be forgotten? Eat donuts?

What do you think police actually do with most of their time these days?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 11, 2020 7:01 PM  

Every time I hear cops whining, I think of James Fields, Daniel Shaver, R.A.M., Proud Boys, and the guys at C'ville doing 10 yrs for fighting off feel nogs.
F em.
You don't get sympathy from me.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 11, 2020 7:24 PM  

Travis sounds like a good goy who was trained by the Israeli Army & Mossad as to how to put an knee to the neck of a schwartze just like they do to Palestinians, and has had his yearly ADL training on f*ck whitey every year.

Blogger MadFrank June 11, 2020 7:36 PM  

That the result of a union. Replace the word cop any unionized job, it all the same.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 11, 2020 7:42 PM  

Columbine? No need to go back that far, remember the Florida school shooting and the hiding cop?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 11, 2020 7:46 PM  

Yes, I think no white man should ever become a cop. If they are truly a decent person they will end up enforcing corrupt laws and babying jogger while arresting 17 yr old white kid for posting pic of themselves with their hunting rifle.
And what will they get in the end? Hunted down by deranged commies and feral BLM. They have a target painted on them and they could've prevented that.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 11, 2020 7:49 PM  

Was it in Mena, AK and did you know Bill Clinton?

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants June 11, 2020 7:53 PM  

Desegregation meant cops had to begin treating white people as a dangerous threat on the level of feral nogs because EQUALITY.

Blogger Sicilian Switchblade June 11, 2020 8:01 PM  

A majority of police are Revenue whores who will gladly cite you a hundred or two dollars for some minor traffic violation, but can't be bothered to look for actual criminals violating property or people.

Order following bastards in my state actually tracked people down for going to church and threatened to house arrest quarantine them for 14 days. (Not sure if that actually happened). Meanwhile we were burglarized for about $12,000.00 worth of tools on a jobsite and I was told "I" should check the pawnshops in the neighborhood and see if I could indentify any of my property so it could be recovered.

Glad I had good insurance...

Show me a cop who is not worse than useless and I'll show you an 7 foot tall Filipino.

Keep your gun and blade handy, and keep your insurance premiums paid up, cuz they ain't there to protect and serve YOU.

Blogger Ransom Smith June 11, 2020 10:02 PM  

They made the choice to do the thing they swore to do? You expect a 20-ish midwit to know the truth of govt corruption? DO you excuse the vast majority of Americans who never learn it by age 40? Did YOU at age 20ish know how corrupt this world/country is? Well, congrats, maybe: you're NOT an ill-educated midwit kid who wants to "help people by enforcing the law" they still believe in!
You don't get it Avalance. Cops are the long arm of the law, and they serve as mindless servants for that which seeks to destroy.
Cops stopped supporting the people long ago and took the tacticool gear and Dodge Chargers. They preform no knock raids, and remove children from parents. They don't serve the people they claim to support.
Let it go. They aren't our people. The smart ones will leave the badge and support the community. The dumb ones will march against the community.

Blogger Edjamacator June 11, 2020 10:25 PM  

I can't feel too sorry for them. The cops have already shown me that they don't care about my Constitutional rights or my safety. I live in state where guns are prohibited, and the cops happily enforce gun laws instead of the Constitution, which I assumed (haha) was the highest law in the land. If cops aren't picking and choosing what laws they enforce, how are they deciding the Second Amendment is irrelevant, while gun laws passed by Democrat scum aren't?

Even what little I could get (a shotgun) involved a cop-driven rigmarole. I had to go to a particular station to get the first step done, and it had to be at a time when a cop would be available. I called ahead and was told to come in within an hour. I got there in 20 minutes and was told the cop already left, try again, son. Once I finally got that done on the second or third attempt, a bunch of other nonsense hoops to jump through came up.

Meanwhile, a neighbor blasts his gun whenever he wants into the woods (which, frankly I don't care because it's his property, whatever), and if someone calls the cops, they just chat it up with him and leave. Cops are also known to shoot on their properties, too, while coming down on anyone not a cop for trying the same. So yeah, they're already picking and choosing which laws to enforce and who has to follow them.

Blogger SciVo June 11, 2020 10:55 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:The one time I had a serious encounter with police, they were polite and followed the rules, but that was the scary part: it was clear that they would follow any rules, no matter how stupid or ill-fitting to the situation. They had no curiosity about why they were doing what they were doing, and they were fine with that. Which means if they'd been given orders to be a whole lot less polite, they probably would have been fine with that too.

On that point I will defend them, because then they are submitting to us. Worst case, we elect the people that appoint the people that make the rules that they follow. Their authority ultimately comes from us (more directly for sheriff's deputies), so if they're being careful to follow rules, then that's like saying that they're being careful to be good agents of the source of their authority, which is ultimately us.I

In a representative democracy, that's as good as it gets. The alternative is whimsical and arbitrary authority, which is worse.

Blogger Canadian Warlord June 12, 2020 1:22 AM  

The cops and the journalists chose, long ago, the murky agendas of a few thousand people (government) over a well-being and future for the millions of people who work to pay them.

Learn to code??? 2 + 2 might equal 5 in the sociology textbooks, but a java app will not give a crap. Try arguing with a math coprocessor. Maybe former cops can threaten the compilers with their siren and badge!

Blogger map June 12, 2020 2:00 AM  

Vox makes a very good point about the rich tapestry of wrongs involved. It's not binary, like the typical "most cops are good, but for a few bad apples" schtick we here from Sean Hannity.

Yes, the various administrative infractions and petty intrusions, like speeding tickets and quotas, definitely is problematic.

But there is one missing element: what about circumstances where civilians call cops to the scene? The Floyd incident was predicated on local blacks calling police on Floyd for passing a counterfeit bill...and then pointing him out in the car.

How much of an ass do you have to be to get someone to call cops to the scene and not leave when you know they are coming?

This is the concern people have with the anti-cop mentality...will they lose the probability of response when they call police?

Otherwise, Vox makes an excellent point.

Blogger map June 12, 2020 2:02 AM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:What do you think police actually do with most of their time these days?

I wonder if most of the shootings in Chicago are vigilante justice?

Blogger map June 12, 2020 2:21 AM  

Newscaper312 wrote:One of my beefs with the police in general is that for all the militarization, up to and including slaps in the wrist for no knock raids that kill innocent s at wrong addresses... They are still almost completely useless during active shooter incidents even when on scene in time, all these years after their terrible failure at Columbine.

But they charged headlong into the Synagogue in New York.

Blogger map June 12, 2020 2:25 AM  

Newscaper312 wrote:One of my beefs with the police in general is that for all the militarization, up to and including slaps in the wrist for no knock raids that kill innocent s at wrong addresses... They are still almost completely useless during active shooter incidents even when on scene in time, all these years after their terrible failure at Columbine.

Or the cop snipers at Drag Queen Story Time.

Blogger mike June 12, 2020 6:10 AM  

I'm really surprised Voxes views on police brutality align with mine.

They should be charged for every gross negligence resulting in severe harm to unarmed or disarmed citizen.

But i also believe they were hired as gammas to magnify their snowflakeiness and increase the social tensions. If you give a gamma testosterone you endup with "excellent " police candidate that will blow up if you smile wrong at him

Blogger Avalanche June 12, 2020 8:40 AM  

@64 You must have been a joy for your shipmates to be around. And to answer your question, yes, every NCO and officer does pick and choose what to enforce and what to ignore. Must pick what to enforce and ignore.
... One of my men missed ship's movement ... My chief and I watched ... "Did you see anything?" I asked. "I didn't see nuttin'," he replied. End of the story. Perhaps in your mind he should have been dragged into captain's mast. In my mind, he was a young man enjoying life, who demonstrated great resourcefulness and hopefully learned a valuable lesson.

I was not the @sshat martinet the various responses makes me seem. And my attempt at describing what I see as a conflict between what cops want to do and what they are directed to do, e.g., stand down in riots, enforce 'petty' laws was because I would like to know how folks try to resolve that conflict. Probably I'm just naive as hell. I acknowledge there are apparently many bad cops; but is it really every one of them? They all deserve condemnation? We should do without cops?

If black officers choose to mostly ignore blacks committing petty or not-so-petty crimes, and white officers choose to ignore them to retain their careers and their own/family's safety; or if both colors of cop are told by their bosses to stand-down -- or to SWAT up an old geezer for political reasons -- do we not end up where we are right now, with end-times rioting, burning, and bleeding?

If a store owner is losing business because Eric Garner is outside selling singles for the nth time; how do 'we' define the owner's call for the cops to remove him for the nth time? If 'we' ignore vagrancy, don't we end up with the sidewalks of LA, Boulder, SFran, etc. covered in tents and homeless, and feces?

Please help me find some kind of clarity here. I'm not acting gamma -- I really want to learn how y'all would balance these conflicts. NYFC, as Aesop calls it, once upon a time had much success with broken window policing. That was enforcing instead of ignoring petty crimes. Allowing subway turnstyle jumpers complete freedom results in everyone except the chumps riding for free. Deciding that cops won't even investigate shoplifting valued below $950 (!) results in Sherman-marching-through-Georgia behavior and stores being driven out of business, even before the rioting.

When this country did enforce -- by social pressure and/or cop action -- petty infringements on social more's, it was a much better country. Cleaner, safer, still had a future? I don't necessarily support the slippery slope idea; but it is a truism that: actions have consequences. Well, used to have.... When the consequences are removed, a million times over, we lose our country. Where's the line?

Blogger VD June 12, 2020 10:23 AM  

I acknowledge there are apparently many bad cops; but is it really every one of them? They all deserve condemnation? We should do without cops?

No policing is better than the illusion of policing without the reality.

And yes, they all deserve condemnation for the same reason that all enemy soldiers are fair targets in a war. You don't argue "this enemy soldier hasn't done anything, so it would be wrong to shoot at him."

The police have collectively failed to do their duty.

Blogger Leatherwing June 12, 2020 10:40 AM  

They argue that we are painting with a broad brush if all cops are collectively guilty for the sins of the bad apples. But they love that broad brush when it's used to paint all cops as heroes for the heroic actions of a few.

Blogger Factory June 12, 2020 2:30 PM  

I have a bold prediction.

This Chauvin cop will be found innocent somewhere around mid October.

I know, I know...cynical (if rather obvious) take. But the Dems are losing their subtle touch. Must be because someone is pressing their foot to the floor....heh.

So, to sum up...Covid resurgence for mail in ballots. Resurgent violence for fear, as well as polarizing effects. Oh, and economic catastrophe for many, cant forget that.

All we need now is an external threat (aka 'war'). Goodbye America.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( LeBron James loves Asian Rape Farms and Slave Labor ) June 13, 2020 10:08 AM  

123. Edjamacator June 11, 2020 10:25 PM
and the cops happily enforce gun laws instead of the Constitution,


neither the 2nd, nor the 1st ( official 'State' Churches still existed until the 1850s ), nor any of the rest of the BoR were ever supposed to be used against the States or We The People.

because the purpose of the BoR was TO CONSTRAIN THE *FEDERAL* GOVERNMENT. as is made clear by the 9th and 10th Amendments.

unless a State or municipality adopts the BoR for itself ( which many have ), there is no LEGAL reason why that State or municipality should be prohibited from telling you that you can't own guns. the FEDERAL government, otoh, yes THEY are prohibited.

in the same way that a Dry State or County can tell you that you can't buy alcohol, they can also choose to fire arm free. but that's the fault of the Citizens dumb enough to live there, that's not a Law being imposed from afar by the Federal government.

the 'original sin' against the Constitution was pretending that the Federal government had any business telling any group of US Citizens or States that they were required to vote or think in a certain Federally required way.

now, look at how the Reconstruction Amendments were ratified.

and explain to me how the ratification of every single former Confederate State was not obtained whilst under Duress.

and explain to me why there should be an exemption from the legal invalidation of Contracts when a party is forced to agree under Duress ...


131. Avalanche June 12, 2020 8:40 AM
but is it really every one of them?



did a single one of Chauvin's partners turn him in to Internal Affairs?

what about the multitude of cops who were on scene for Tony Timpa's murder?

what about a couple of years back when that California dweeb swatted that Kansas guy a couple of years back. guy walks out on his front porch and gets shot dead BY POLICE for no goddamn reason and with no warning.

explain to me why Officer Rapp was not charged for the murder of Finch, while the idiot who made the 911 call has already been sentenced to 20 years ...

and Rapp is not only not being prosecuted for his negligence, he's suing the city for back wages:
https://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article236623383.html

so where are all the "Good" cops? why aren't they bringing criminal complaints against the Bad cops when they watch murders committed?

because failing to do makes them Accessories After the Fact.

which means that they are ALSO criminals, by their actions and BY THE LAW.



134. Factory June 12, 2020 2:30 PM
This Chauvin cop will be found innocent somewhere around mid October.



Amy Klobuchar has provided cover for Chauvin after multiple complaints when she was prosecutor.

IF the Dems can figure out some way to convict Chauvin without incriminating Klobuchar in the national media they will do so.

otherwise, yes, the Demonrats will probably fight his conviction a great deal harder than most would suspect.

Blogger Akulkis June 13, 2020 12:42 PM  

>> because the purpose of the BoR was TO CONSTRAIN THE *FEDERAL* GOVERNMENT. as is made clear by the 9th and 10th Amendments.


The Bill of Rights is absolutely MEANINGLESS if the individual state governments aren't obligated to guarantee those rights as well.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( LeBron James loves Asian Rape Farms and Slave Labor ) June 13, 2020 2:36 PM  

136. Akulkis June 13, 2020 12:42 PM
The Bill of Rights is absolutely MEANINGLESS if the individual state governments aren't obligated to guarantee those rights as well.



8 of the 13 colonies had "established" ( official ) churches at the time that the Constitution was ratified.

0 of those churches were disestablished because of the 1st Amendment with Massachusetts keeping it's established Congregationalist church until 1833.
https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/801/established-churches-in-early-america

further, none of them were even challenged because of your supposed conflict with the 1st Amendment.

because nobody was stupid enough to confuse State Law with a Law passed by Congress.

also because the revolutionaries were smart enough to recognize the potential vastly greater threat which a Federal government could be.

Blogger Akulkis June 13, 2020 8:28 PM  

>> 8 of the 13 colonies had "established" ( official ) churches at the time that the Constitution was ratified.

The existence of an "official church" in a colony didn't outlaw other religious beliefs.

You're buying into the left's obsession with atheism. Freedom OF religion does not mean Freedom FROM religion.



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