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Sunday, July 26, 2020

China is "stoking racial tensions"

Of course the Chinese are helping fan the flames of the demographic fire that is going to destroy the United States of America. Why wouldn't they do so? The US military and its ability to intervene in Asia is the only thing that currently stands between China and the regional dominance it seeks, and if the USA collapses, China can avoid the need for a war with a very real possibility of turning into World War III.
China is stoking racial tensions in the United States, Fox News Asia analyst Gordon Chang stated Wednesday. In an interview on "America's Newsroom,"  Chang pointed out that the reason the State Department said the Chinese consulate in Houston was ordered shut this week was that it was "involved in intellectual property theft" and because they "wanted to protect the information of U.S. individuals."

"Also, there are stories that this consulate had links with protest groups in the United States providing financial and logistical support. That’s unconfirmed," he added. "But, what is confirmed is that the Chinese Foreign Ministry and the Communist Party's global ties have been engaged in a malicious disinformation campaign, deliberately stoking racial tensions in the U.S.

"And, U.S. Customs has seized items coming from China this year that would be very handy for protesters," Chang noted.
Of course, it would be considerably more meaningful if Fox News or anyone else in the mainstream media would also report honestly on the way another nation has been doing exactly the same thing since 1923.

Celler made his first important speech on the House floor during consideration of the Johnson-Reed Immigration Act of 1924. Three years earlier, Congress had imposed a quota that limited immigration for persons of any nationality to 3 percent of that nationality present in the United States in 1910, with an annual admission limit of 356,000 immigrants. This national origin system was structured to preserve the ethnic and religious identity of the United States by reducing immigration from Eastern and Southern Europe, thereby excluding many Jews, Catholics, among others. Celler was vehemently opposed to the Johnson-Reed Act, which passed the isolationist Congress and was signed into law. Celler had found his cause and for the next four decades he vigorously spoke out in favor of eliminating the national origin quotas as a basis for immigration restriction.

The Chinese may well finish the demolition of the USA, but they obviously are not the nation responsible for starting it.

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82 Comments:

Blogger QW July 26, 2020 4:51 AM  

The "Early Life Check" on Celler gives the expected result as well.

Blogger Brett baker July 26, 2020 5:11 AM  

Maybe some members of a certain nationality will stop tearing the US down, since they need us to punish China for not accepting them?

Blogger steb July 26, 2020 5:12 AM  

China is burning off the brushwood. Other nations are soaking the trees in gasoline.

Blogger yoyoyoBigD July 26, 2020 5:28 AM  

"chinese party engaged in a malicious disinformation campaign, deliberately stoking racial tensions in the U.S."

Is this the China version of Russiagate?

"Multiculturalism would have worked if only those pesky chinese stayed away!"
Yeah, right, at best the chinese gave USA a slight push over the edge.

Blogger glueballs July 26, 2020 5:30 AM  

For reasons already covered here, Amren and at the Z Blog, it’s quite clear that 20%+ of non-jewish non-hispanic white ‘mericans truly and deep down believe and they must believe that ‘merica is a set of faux ideals comparable to judeo-christianity or churchianity or scientism that, with proper allowance, will root deep within any person of any demographic. They deliberately will hold the doors open for anybody who can get here. Unless these folks are removed physically and barred forever we cannot prevail as white people within the US or some subregion of the territory. TPTB are going to come for you with their “new hires” and unless you actually will do what is necessary a great wave is going to erase you and yours. Me and mine too.

Blogger The Observer July 26, 2020 6:08 AM  

The Chinese themselves most likely think it turnabout for Tibet, Tiananmen and Xinjiang, amongst others.

Blogger jijijeac July 26, 2020 6:16 AM  

racial tensions are being stoked by the white race traitors(mostly elites) who allowed the usa to be overrun by nonwhites.

Blogger Gettimothy July 26, 2020 6:24 AM  

"Pride" is their dominant demonic trait*. That is the rhetorical lynch pin to attack.



* The Catholics have things named "Binding Prayers" which, in a believers sphere of authority, they can bind demons and their influence. After recognizing demonic influence, you identify its "name" , that is , its behavior and you say the prayers (sometimes/often repeatedly) to bind the demon and halt its influence on you. So, ' "spirit of pride" I bind you in the name of Jesus Christ and command you to go to the foot of the cross to receive your sentence' is an example an individual could say in the process of removing that demonic influence from your life.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 26, 2020 6:31 AM  

The Soviets stoked racial and other tensions in the US too, for decades. Commies gonna commie, and of course the US does the same thing elsewhere, so it's to be expected. But it wouldn't be nearly as effective without traitors on the inside. The primary focus should be on them.

Blogger doctrev July 26, 2020 6:33 AM  

glueballs wrote:For reasons already covered here, Amren and at the Z Blog, it’s quite clear that 20%+ of non-jewish non-hispanic white ‘mericans truly and deep down believe and they must believe that ‘merica is a set of faux ideals comparable to judeo-christianity or churchianity or scientism that, with proper allowance, will root deep within any person of any demographic.

Right this moment, I'd bet the number is reversed: 80% of non-minority Americans believe in some flavor of civic nationalism. Understandable, given that black nationalism gets you endorsement deals and fawning press from the elites, while white nationalism gets you divorced, fired, arrested, then murdered. But still a fact.

Blogger Unknown July 26, 2020 7:07 AM  

I don't understand why people think foreign governments working to influence US events and policy is so shocking. It's not as if the US hasn't done the exact same thing all over the world for decades, case in point, Iran. Get over it and realize that your causes are probably playing into the hands of foreigners.

Blogger My 1 millionth internet profile July 26, 2020 7:22 AM  

Of course, it would be considerably more meaningful if Fox News or anyone else in the mainstream media would also report honestly on the way another nation has been doing exactly the same thing since 1923.

Given that the Littlest Chickenhawk's latest blatherings are the number 3 trending story over there, it seems unlikely. Besides, what's wrong with fighting to allow more Catholics into the country? They're natural conservatives.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 7:26 AM  

>>Maybe some members of a certain nationality will stop tearing the US down, since they need us to punish China for not accepting them?<<

No, they've got a bad case of oneitis for China right now along with an instinctive desire for what they cannot have.

Blogger Guy Jean July 26, 2020 7:29 AM  

So, if China becomes top dog, will they want to impose their own world-wide hegemony? And if so, will it be better than the US one?

Blogger FrankNorman July 26, 2020 7:34 AM  

8. Gettimothy July 26, 2020 6:24 AM

"Pride" is their dominant demonic trait*. That is the rhetorical lynch pin to attack.

* The Catholics have things named "Binding Prayers" which, in a believers sphere of authority, they can bind demons and their influence. After recognizing demonic influence, you identify its "name" , that is , its behavior and you say the prayers (sometimes/often repeatedly) to bind the demon and halt its influence on you. So, ' "spirit of pride" I bind you in the name of Jesus Christ and command you to go to the foot of the cross to receive your sentence' is an example an individual could say in the process of removing that demonic influence from your life.


That sounds to me like something Pentecostals might do, actually. Nothing uniquely Roman Catholic about it.

But yes, we should take more seriously the fact that much of what is going on has a spiritual component to it.

Blogger Taylor? July 26, 2020 7:36 AM  

Agreed. The majority of people I've spoken with who self-identify as republicans/conservatives (thus majority white) ardently believe and say that they don't care what people do on their own time, and that as long as they respect the Constitution everything will work out fine.

Blogger Rowan July 26, 2020 7:40 AM  

Slight OT but China is engaging in ag warfare. Sending unsolicited packets of seeds to people, marked as “jewelry” because seeds can’t pass customs. All unidentified, sent at random along with Amazon orders. Who knows what invasive, toxic, disease ridden plants come from these seeds?

I know too many people stupid enough to plant them “just to see what grows.” But the Worst Stupids are the ones who deliberately order Chinese seeds because they couldn’t wait on domestic seed companies to restock.

It really is “China, China, China!” and a cascade of horrors on down

Blogger Alcuin July 26, 2020 8:03 AM  

For the Open Door extremists, it is justice for a people to make room for others and change their national identity. For the rest of the 80%, "Maybe it will all work out."

Blogger VD July 26, 2020 8:14 AM  

So, if China becomes top dog, will they want to impose their own world-wide hegemony?

The entire history of China suggests otherwise. And they consciously rejected the offer of the next global empire when they rejected the Great Leap to China.

Blogger Avalanche July 26, 2020 8:16 AM  

@2 "Maybe some members of a certain nationality will stop tearing the US down, since they need us to punish China for not accepting them?"

Restraint, forethought, self-control, consideration of likely/possible outcomes, ability to plan for future safety of themselves and others, modifying hatred for balance,, insane desires for unearned revenge?

(((Nah.))) Never happen.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan July 26, 2020 8:22 AM  

Maybe the Chins and the crazies on the Left are doing us a favor, we on the dissident right cannot discredit or argue effectively against the horror of CivNat idiotic policy but the left and the Chins can, let them do the work.

Blogger Oswald July 26, 2020 8:32 AM  

I had not considered that China had a hand in the protests, but it makes perfect sense. Might also explain our sudden interest in the South China sea area. When you consider Biden's ties to China, it would seem likely that China would want Biden as President. Now that might be something to fear: Chinese Hackers interfering with the election. They probably would represent a more serious threat then anything the Russian's could mount.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 26, 2020 8:52 AM  

So, if China becomes top dog, will they want to impose their own world-wide hegemony?

I'm certainly no expert. But the experts on China that I've read here and there over the past 20-some years say that China only wants regional hegemony. They want it fully, with no interference from the outside, so they can do what they want with Hong Kong/Taiwan/etc. But unlike the Soviets or the Diasporans, they don't aspire to global control, other than to do what it takes to keep the globe out of their region.

Blogger rikjames.313 July 26, 2020 9:22 AM  

The Marine commandant, who has removed all armor and squad automatic weapons, and is getting rid of half the artillery and air, is also trying to force more black women into infantry.

I wonder how much he has cost China to cripple the Marine Corps? I would bet a lot less than a single flight of antiship missiles

Blogger Section 8A July 26, 2020 9:33 AM  

Arthur Bryant's "The Iron Curtain Over America" mentions Celler, and his team, by name. I saw it recommended over at Unz's site, and proceeded to read how Bryant was blowing the whistle on this in the early 1950's.

Of course when you read the mainstream write-ups of the book the usual epithets come out. That's how I knew the book was worthwhile.

Blogger sd July 26, 2020 9:47 AM  

@22. Oswald.

I'm not surprised if it's the case if China will do everything even at the risk of paying a huge price with the current floods and who's know how The Three Gorges Dam goes currently.

To see China as a very serious threat reminds me of Jack London's short story "The Unparallleled Invasion" or Tom Clancy's novel "The Bear and the Dragon".

Blogger Homesteader July 26, 2020 10:21 AM  

"Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life." 

Blogger urthshu July 26, 2020 10:25 AM  

>>>Slight OT but China is engaging in ag warfare. Sending unsolicited packets of seeds to people, marked as “jewelry

Honestly I think that's another scam. The package is being sent to a random address within the zip code and are seeds only because they're super light. They could send rocks for all they care, it would serve the same purpose.
What's going on is they're selling non existent goods online. Someone orders it, they pocket the money and send out the seeds to the zip code which is then recorded at the shipping facility, which is about as granular as they get, then the consumer files the package as "lost" and gets a refund or not from the credit card company.

Blogger Martel July 26, 2020 10:31 AM  

"Now that might be something to fear: Chinese Hackers interfering with the election"

At this moment there is likely a small army filling in mail-in-ballots for Biden. There needs to be a executive order to discard all ballots that smell like soy sauce.

Blogger Crew July 26, 2020 11:03 AM  

And Little Benji has a how-to manual!

https://www.amazon.com/Destroy-America-Three-Easy-Steps/dp/006300187X

Blogger R Devere July 26, 2020 11:14 AM  

jijijeac wrote:racial tensions are being stoked by the white race traitors(mostly elites) who allowed the usa to be overrun by nonwhites.

THEM thinking they will be rewarded by the diversities handing THEM the throne!

News flash: The diversities have a slightly different idea in mind.

Blogger cecilhenry July 26, 2020 11:19 AM  

Every. Single. Time.

On que:

ADL Targets Trump: Saying “America First” is Anti-Semitic

https://www.prisonplanet.com/adl-targets-trump-saying-america-first-is-anti-semitic.html




Our destruction is a natural consequence, a fundamental hostile DEMAND, of the Jewish outlook.

For OUR racial & other identities to survive, we must stop people who are judaizing us in our nations.

And let them be in a place where they can ONLY spread that hostility to each other.

Blogger Frank Brady July 26, 2020 11:40 AM  

No, the Catholics don't.

Blogger Pathfinderlight July 26, 2020 11:48 AM  

If you go back and watch interviews of lawyers who helped write US immigration policy in the 60's, they argue the previous regime designed to preserve American national demographics was racist. Imagine the mental inversion you have to go through to turn a selection system designed to prevent race war into hatred.

We have to pay the price for our lack of vigilance now, but let our fathers' sins be recorded as an example for future generations.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 11:59 AM  

>>https://www.prisonplanet.com/adl-targets-trump-saying-america-first-is-anti-semitic.html<<

The ADL is anti-American. End it for all time.

Blogger Rowan July 26, 2020 12:00 PM  

@urthshu, you’re correct, it’s a scam called “brushing” so Ali Ezpress, etc. can boost sales and reviews.

Blogger MichaelJMaier July 26, 2020 12:00 PM  

"Maybe some members of a certain nationality will stop tearing the US down, since they need us to punish China for not accepting them?"

NOT holding my breath on that one!

Blogger urthshu July 26, 2020 12:04 PM  

>>But unlike the Soviets or the Diasporans, they don't aspire to global control, other than to do what it takes to keep the globe out of their region.

Sort of like how we were. Turned out different.

Blogger "William Berke" July 26, 2020 12:07 PM  

Vlad., to continue practicing crime gambits, political campaigning for monies, and collecting signatures, please kindly go back to Kyiv. Try to access the Chinese nation and Saigas from there, masks will not hide your voice or intentions here. There is only one American central intelligence agency.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 12:11 PM  

>>The entire history of China suggests otherwise. And they consciously rejected the offer of the next global empire when they rejected the Great Leap to China<<

I do not think they are working towards a global military empire, but they are definitely working towards a global economic hegemony. At some point, though, they will realize that hegemony won't be enforceable without military domination. Then they have to choose between scaling back their plans for economic domination or scaling up their plans for military domination. The two are too intertwined to keep them separate. In the end, I suspect they will do whatever they can get away with. Human nature being what it is and the Han being mostly human.

Blogger VD July 26, 2020 12:14 PM  

Then they have to choose between scaling back their plans for economic domination or scaling up their plans for military domination.

That's idiotic. The Han have NEVER sought to rule the world. You're projecting. They haven't survived as long as they have, or witnessed the endless travails of the nation that always seeks to rule the world, without learning the perils of heterogeneous empire.

In the event they ever decide to rule the world, they will kill everyone who isn't Han using genetic weapons.

Blogger Jeroth July 26, 2020 12:24 PM  

China will be blamed for everything Jews have done to this country.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella July 26, 2020 12:55 PM  

Can anyone take inspiration from Vox, and start making girl videos to appeal to young women? The SJWs have that space. The brainwashing is unbelievably dense, and very, unfortunately, effective. The girls in high school are trainwrecks from the brainwashing. It is unbelievably bad.

I appeal to people with skills. Please.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 12:57 PM  

>>That's idiotic. The Han have NEVER sought to rule the world. You're projecting. <<

Because nations never do anything differently at different times? What naive tripe. Nothing suggests the Chinese are the live and let live libertarians of the geopolitical scene.

Where, exactly, do their economic and teritorial ambitions end today? A few decades from now?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 26, 2020 12:57 PM  

Jeroth wrote:China will be blamed for everything Jews have done to this country.
I'd hate to see our Diasporans get off easy, but I'm OK with their choice of whipping boy.

Blogger Fozzy Bear July 26, 2020 1:09 PM  

Historians will debate when the Sino-American war began, but one thing they will all agree on is that it began before today. This is what war between nuclear power looks like in the 21st century. Maybe people will get it when the three gorges dam collapses, or a nuclear plant melts down.

Blogger VD July 26, 2020 1:10 PM  

Because nations never do anything differently at different times? What naive tripe.

As I said, your position is idiotic. The Han are no more likely to become imperial global hegemonists than the Jews are to stop trying to heal the world.

People are who they are. And in the case of the Chinese, we have thousands of years of history informing us of their inclinations.

If they wanted to rule the world, they would have enthusiastically taken the bait and Beijing would have become the new New York. But all China really wants is to be strong enough to keep the invaders out. Unfortunately, that pretty much requires they become the strongest military on the planet, so that is what they will do.

And there is literally nothing the USA can do to stop it now. The US moment has passed, whether Americans realize it or not. That's normal enough; it took the Spanish and the British quite some time to realize their empires were crumbling too.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 1:30 PM  

I don't think the Chinese passing up on the deal offerewd by the Elders of Wye is a fair metric-- there are good reasons to pass up such an offer considering the obvious strings attached, including being ruled or at least manipulated by a subversive foreign element.

As for stopping China's expansion, America doesn't have to. I hope you are correct in your assessment of their ambitions, but if you are wrong, China will have to deal with neighbors who are willing to fight to keep the hated Han out as well as their own endemic internal corruption. XI can enforce all the reforms he wants, but he will not change Han nature in the long run.

All America needs to do is cut ties with China and tend our own garden. Easier said than done most times given our political class and the neopalestinian influence and push for war. But we don't need an empire overseas. The one we have at home is trouble enough.

Blogger VD July 26, 2020 1:42 PM  

I don't think the Chinese passing up on the deal offerewd by the Elders of Wye is a fair metric

That's not the metric. The metric is 3,250 years of written Chinese history. The USA didn't last 80 years before trying to build an empire. The Chinese philosophy is too cyclical to provide a philosophical basis for global empire.

These are the people whose foremost story about themselves begins "The empire, long divided, must unite; long united, must divide. Thus it has ever been."

The only reason they have any interest in global power is due to the invasions of the Western imperialists followed by the invasions of the Japanese imperialists. And note that the latter learned their imperialism from the West.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos July 26, 2020 1:43 PM  

If anyone tries to hand you that steaming pile, ask them how we deport someone who isn’t an American due to their ideals.

Blogger SirHamster July 26, 2020 2:11 PM  

Stilicho wrote:Because nations never do anything differently at different times? What naive tripe. Nothing suggests the Chinese are the live and let live libertarians of the geopolitical scene.

Who's to say your chihuahua can't be trained to be a German shepherd?

Blogger the other boomer July 26, 2020 2:38 PM  

I don't see stoking racial tensions as a way to help Biden. Wife watches MSM a lot and really thinks Trump is at best incompetent in dealing with corona chan; he's a businessman who cares more about money than lives and therefore doesn't shut everything down. After the crazy BLM protests, burning down cities because of the death of a guy with a massive overdose of fentanyl in him, she actually wants me to vote for Trump (she doesn't vote; she's sorta anabaptist) because he at least does something to maintain order.

Blogger BalancedTryteOperators July 26, 2020 2:45 PM  

In the event they ever decide to rule the world, they will kill everyone who isn't Han using genetic weapons.

The sudden shift of appearances in H. sapiens sapiens is going to look... interesting to future historians.

Blogger American Nationalist July 26, 2020 2:51 PM  

*checks Early Life section*

Every. Single. Time.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 3:26 PM  

>>Who's to say your chihuahua can't be trained to be a German shepherd?<<

Ask the Vietnamese.

Blogger Damelon Brinn July 26, 2020 3:45 PM  

I don't see stoking racial tensions as a way to help Biden.

It doesn't have to be. Causing internal strife makes sense as the main goal. If it turns people against Trump and they get a president they own, great. If Trump wins and the US is too occupied with riots and mask-mania-induced recession to get involved with whatever they're doing in their backyard, also great.

We've been in a trade war with China for decades. We just weren't shooting back because our business and political leaders were on the other side. Trump started fighting back in that war and started winning ground right away. He obviously doesn't want a shooting war either, but China can't afford to let us win the trade war, which could lead to an escalation neither Trump nor China wants.

And you have the Promethians who I don't think would choose China as their favorite war target, because you don't generally bomb your own factories. But since Trump won't give them any other wars, they might get desperate enough to push for one there.

Blogger Crew July 26, 2020 3:49 PM  

In the event they ever decide to rule the world, they will kill everyone who isn't Han using genetic weapons.

Don't worry. If the Chinese ever decide that a final solution is needed, I am sure our (((fellow white people))) will save us!

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2020/07/how_to_prepare_for_a_communist_coup.html

Blogger Doktor Jeep July 26, 2020 3:59 PM  

Diversity is a liability

Blogger Crew July 26, 2020 4:30 PM  

I believe the Chosenites can never give up on destroying the Germans and America and probably all Europeans, because they can never be sure that someone from those groups will remember the Liberty or all those other atrocities and false flags. Hell, even the Russians will need to be destroyed.

Blogger Angantyr July 26, 2020 5:40 PM  

VD wrote:Because nations never do anything differently at different times? What naive tripe.

The US moment has passed, whether Americans realize it or not. That's normal enough; it took the Spanish and the British quite some time to realize their empires were crumbling too.


*sigh*

I wish we would realize it right now, and act accordingly by withdrawing from the rest of the world. And perhaps doing the precise opposite of "Invade the world, invite the world"

"Leave the world, repatriate the world" perhaps?

Blogger SirHamster July 26, 2020 6:27 PM  

Stilicho wrote:>>Who's to say your chihuahua can't be trained to be a German shepherd?<<

Ask the Vietnamese.


I missed the era of the imperial pan-Asia Vietnamese empire with global aspirations.

When did they conquer the UK, again?

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 6:33 PM  

>>
We've been in a trade war with China for decades. We just weren't shooting back because our business and political leaders were on the other side<<

I am reliably informed that the Chinese are just chihuahuas or perhaps cuddly pandas who just want to be left alone.

It only takes one side to start a war, economic or otherwise. After that, it is only a matter of scope and escalation.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash July 26, 2020 6:40 PM  

SirHamster wrote:When did they conquer the UK, again?
I think he's referring to the fact that tiny Vietnam has kicked the Chinese Empire's ass many times over the last 6 millennia, most recently in 1979.

Blogger CF Neal July 26, 2020 6:54 PM  

I see Celler has "paternal grandparents and maternal grandmother were Jewish (his maternal grandfather was Catholic)."

Does not his 1/4 Catholic grandparentage slightly ameliorate or tamp down or dampen or weaken or ... well, you get it?

I type as listening to Secretary of State Pompeo speak:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwBXKUhEZqw

Blogger Crew July 26, 2020 7:05 PM  

I think he's referring to the fact that tiny Vietnam has kicked the Chinese Empire's ass many times over the last 6 millennia, most recently in 1979.

Sure, but they were also ruled by China for something like 1,000 years. Also, I doubt the 6 millennia bit. I do agree, however, that Vietnam in its various incarnations (sometimes 2, sometimes 3, sometimes 1), has been free of China for the last 1,000 years or there abouts.

Blogger Crew July 26, 2020 8:10 PM  

"There is good news, President Xi, and bad news!" said the Chinese scientist in charge of developing biowarefare.

"OK, give me both," said Xi!

"Well, we have a virus that kills the guai lo, but it also kills Chinese people!" replied the biowarefare scientist.

"No matter!" replied President Xi, "There are more of us than them!"

Blogger J Van Stry July 26, 2020 8:53 PM  

Has anyone else noticed all the nice new Norico Arms Rifles that the BLM and other left wing protesters are suddenly showing up with?
Yeah, China is shipping weapons into the country illegally. They are backing this. I always find it surprising that people think no one is every trying to fund people to overthrow or government. The Soviets did it for decades. Why would China be any different? And with the Soviet destruction of our education system, the kids are now easily controlled.

Blogger Stilicho July 26, 2020 8:55 PM  

@ sir hamster: snidely is corect. I would add that the vietnamese are intimately familiar with chinese ambition (as crew noted).

Again, I hoope Vox is right and China just wants to enforce its own monroe doctrine around the south china sea. My concern is that the posited chines desire to be left alone via building the world's strongest military has to large dangers 1) having built it, the desire or impetus to use it grows; and 2) more importantly, the chinese need for foreign trade has led them to start building a international trade hegemony to secure the trade they need. vox thinks it is idiotic to think the chinese want such hegemony based on their history. I see them trying to replace the US as the dominat economic and military power in the world. The question is how will they use such power once they achieve it. I think they will use it to dictate to the rest of the world a la the post WWII US at least until they meet serious resistance. The fact that they leave Russia alone(mostly) gives me hope. Their history with Vietnam, Korea, and Japan gives me pause.

At any rate, America's best path forward lies in strategic disentanglement with China. We don't need their trade and we don't need to jump into their conflicts with neighbors. We need to focus on our domestic problems and on protecting our own homeland and interests. The sooner we put a bullet in the head of Poppa Bush's "new world order" the better for everyone.

Blogger Oswald July 26, 2020 10:47 PM  

I keep seeing the Chinese being referred to in the plural. Does President Xi rule as a dictator or as a figure head? Because if he is a dictator, then doesn't his own personal ambition/desire determine the course for the whole country, verse Chinese history. If he personally desires to be master of the world, then does Chinese history matter?

Blogger VFM #7634 July 26, 2020 11:27 PM  

In the event they ever decide to rule the world, they will kill everyone who isn't Han using genetic weapons.

You know, I suppose it's theoretically possible the Chinese aren't in fact lying about their ridiculously low death toll from covid...

From a cursory statistical examination, covid is least harmful to East Asians, then to Europeans and other Caucasians, but spreads readily among and is most lethal to everyone else, including Amerindians and Africans, and Latinos descended from them.

I suppose having partial resistance to Chinese diseases thanks to the Black Death etc. is one perk of being Caucasoid.

Blogger VFM #7634 July 26, 2020 11:46 PM  

I believe the Chosenites can never give up on destroying the Germans and America and probably all Europeans, because they can never be sure that someone from those groups will remember the Liberty or all those other atrocities and false flags. Hell, even the Russians will need to be destroyed.

No, it has to do with them being Christians, or at least having been Christians for a millennium or more.

Blogger SirHamster July 26, 2020 11:58 PM  

Stilicho wrote:@ sir hamster: snidely is corect. I would add that the vietnamese are intimately familiar with chinese ambition (as crew noted).Pointing out that a regional hegemon has regional ambitions with its neighbors proves what about global ambition?

Blogger M|ke Underwood July 27, 2020 12:26 AM  

Lol exactly

Blogger Crew July 27, 2020 4:04 AM  

Did Ron Unz just reveal that he is the leader of the anti-White movement in the US?

https://www.unz.com/runz/the-bankruptcy-of-american-white-nationalism/

Blogger Stilicho July 27, 2020 7:34 AM  

@sir hamster it proves china is not just interested in china. It has ambitions beyond its borders. Xombined with the desire to be the world's pre-eminent military and economic power.

Blogger Crew July 27, 2020 9:01 AM  

He. Fox News prevents you from viewing that article from this posting. You have to cut and paste the link in another browser window or tab.

Blogger SirHamster July 27, 2020 11:24 AM  

Stilicho wrote:it proves china is not just interested in china. It has ambitions beyond its borders.
What part of regional hegemon did you have trouble understanding?

Vietnam invaded neighboring Cambodia. It proves Vietnam is not just interested in Vietnam. It has ambitions beyond its borders.

There's a gap between, "conflicts with neighbors" to "world dominance".

Blogger Ominous Cowherd July 27, 2020 12:25 PM  

SirHamster wrote:Pointing out that a regional hegemon has regional ambitions with its neighbors proves what about global ambition?
Regions are a lot bigger now than they used to be. Today China has some ambitions in Africa, for example.

The old Chinese model of empire, in which they focused internally and just maintained buffers on their periphery, got blown out of the water about a century ago, and we haven't yet seen what a New Model Chinese Empire will look like.

They have had outward facing eras before, in which they made voyages of discovery. They saw outside contact as a threat to their stability and turned inward again. This looks like another outward facing era, and the threat from the outside world means they can't just burn the records of the outside and turn inward as they would prefer.

So, how big a region will this regional hegemon need to dominate to feel secure, in an age of ICBMs and essential materials which must be imported by sea from all over? I have no idea, but it might include Africa and a lot of the 'stans, for the first time ever.

Another aspect of Chinese society we haven't talked about in this thread is that almost everyone looks down on merchants, and everyone including merchants looks down on warriors. The profession of war is not respectable, so their best and brightest will not become professional soldiers. With all their advantages, this is a big disadvantage to overcome.

Blogger Grooveware July 27, 2020 2:48 PM  

China has been investing money in every corner of the world, learning the tricks from the (small hats) offering loans to all, if you can't pay we will have your ports thank you very much. It looks as if they want to use the world as their grocery store. Better that than the Globohomo agenda.

Blogger Stilicho July 27, 2020 3:14 PM  

>>There's a gap between, "conflicts with neighbors" to "world dominance".<<

I said dominant or pre-eminent power, not " world dominance" as in rule the world. china isn't capable of the latter and would back off anyway in the face of serious resistance. What I am arguing is that china effectively seeks to replace the US as pre-eminent economic power and that such a goal will require co-committant military power or will run into natural limits. I think (and have argued previously) that china will end up as a "regional superpower" with the US and Russia filling similar roles (other players will emerge as well... turkey certainly aspires to such). But I also think that china will try to get away with whatever it can to make its "region" as large as possible and to be able to dictate terms to other nations economically much as the US did post WWII. But that will require military power to support and china will have a real problem projecting military power for the many of the same reasons it is getting more difficult for the US to do so.

That said, I grew up under the Soviet threat and spent a substantial part of my military service preparing to fight them and their allies. So an enemy with similar capabilities isn't anything new. The Chinese are fighting primarily in the economic arena for now and that plays into our hands as well if we will only fight back by cutting off trade and rebuilding our industrial base.

Blogger Balam July 27, 2020 4:24 PM  

@Brett Baker
It is an intrinsic behavior. It would be like expecting a tick to stop sucking blood because it's host is getting into a particularly nasty dog fight. At best it is apathetic and, at worst, extracts blood faster because the host is too weakened to resist. Jumping off is for a later date, probably when the dog is dead.

Blogger Jason the Gentleman July 27, 2020 6:35 PM  

Vox, I've long since accepted that pretty much everything said about China in the news is pure propaganda, predominantly framed to say, 'China bad, America good[er]'. Even with that perspective, I'm not sure what to make of the Uighur muslims. I admit to not having spent much time researching it, but my presumption would be that the Chinese see them as invaders, and as such, second class citizens at best. Would that be even close to accurate?

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