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Saturday, September 12, 2020

Learn to spot the lie

Not that anyone with even half a brain trusts the FBI anymore, but the Portland office has now confirmed that the Bureau is loyal to the Color Revolution, not the American people:

Reports that extremists are setting wildfires in Oregon are untrue. Help us stop the spread of misinformation by only sharing information from trusted, official sources.

FBI Portland and local law enforcement agencies have been receiving reports that extremists are responsible for setting wildfires in Oregon. With our state and local partners, the FBI has investigated several such reports and found them to be untrue.

Special Agent In Charge Loren Cannon, Federal Bureau of Investigation

Remember, the children of the Devil always deceive through misdirection and redefinition. The key word here is "extremists". Sure, various individuals are confirmed to have been observed and arrested for starting fires in Washingtonin California, and in Oregon, and have even been caught red-handed with matches by armed property owners. But the FBI has investigated these reports and determined that none of them were committed by extremists. Therefore, Antifa has nothing to do with it, so stop paying attention and definitely don't blame the death and destruction on the people who are fanning the flames, both literally and metaphorically. That would be antisemitic. And racist. And homophobic. And conspiracy theory misinformation crimethink. Definitely not meth.

Oregon officials are noting that no antifa members have been arrested in connection with the fires, but there have been some arsonists connected with some of the blazes.

This is why it is important to understand that the USA is presently experiencing an attempted Color Revolution of which Antifa is merely one collection of anti-government stormtroopers. BLM is another. NeverTrump is a third. Notice that mere "official sources" are not enough to avoid being deemed misinformation. Those "official sources" must also be "trusted", which means "controlled by the Color Revolution."

The West Coast wildfires are clearly being magnified by the arson attacks. The CoRevs are attempting to hide these attacks under the cover of the natural events, but their hand has already been exposed. And the attacks should serve as a warning to the Patriot community that has retreated from the cities and suburbs that even distance will not suffice to assure they will be left alone.

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95 Comments:

Blogger Laramie Hirsch September 12, 2020 6:45 AM  

That Tim Pool guy was trying to blow it off as not an Antifa attack.

That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?

Blogger Wayne September 12, 2020 6:58 AM  

Tim Pool's red pill is not going down easily.

Blogger travvyboy September 12, 2020 7:00 AM  

Tim Pool is a so called centrist fence sitter with leftist leanings and in my opinion is not to be trusted. The reason I am subscribed to him on Youtube is because his audience seem to hold his feet to the fire in the comments.

He is in the process of the worlds slowest redpill.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2020 7:06 AM  

The gaslighting by the leftists on that twitter thread is pretty weak and poorly coordinated, the Left not sending in their pros. Where the evil idiots of the FBI fall down the citizens are taking up the slack and posting all the pics and reports of arsonists.

Blogger Trid September 12, 2020 7:08 AM  

They hate forests. They hate nature. Leftists consistently come out against proven sustainability and conservation techniques and then do a shell game serbian Jew double bluff to convince the goyim they love God's earth.

Why else do you think they congregate in cities like diseased rats?

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid September 12, 2020 7:08 AM  

Why would they do this to forests? Federal relief money they can funnel into the revolution, more crap to try and pin on Trump, intimidation, disrupting patriot's lives to make prepping more difficult . . . and that's just off the top of my head.

Blogger Jandolin September 12, 2020 7:12 AM  

The FBI takes its orders from the ADL. The FBI now means the Federal Bureau of Israel.

Blogger rikjames.313 September 12, 2020 7:20 AM  

I have never done criminal law. From people who do, I heard over the years the federal government has had a reputation for lying and false test results. And so do local cops who shade testimony, and things at the Detroit police crime lab were so bad they closed it.

But the federal government is organized about it. It isn't one detective or a few guys at the lab making the results match the suspect because they like the cop or are lazy. The feds just flake people at every level of the process to convict them. Fake evidence, fake test results, legally impossible charges made to stick by getting quality defense counsel disqualified.

Now they are lying about something publicly known by a large swath of the population. Gaslighting on a huge scale.

It is starting to feel like a new dark ages. Federal agents and intelligence are the priests, federal judges are the bishops, blacks are the lower level nobility, and hereditary democratic leaders are the upper nobles. They are reading to us out of the bible of nonsensical dogma, and then expecting us to not notice it changes monthly

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2020 7:25 AM  

That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?

You don't think they really meant any of that tree-hugger stuff, do you? Maybe 1% of them did. For the rest, that was all in the service of attacking corporations and policies they didn't like. They control those corporations now, so it's not necessary. When was the last time you heard someone cry about the environment? It's been a while for me.

The "environment" was always just a tool. If it can be most useful to them in ashes, that's what they'll do.

Blogger Lazarus September 12, 2020 7:28 AM  

That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?

We know money donated to BLM is funneled into the DNC war chest.

Dem govs establish sanctuary cities. Trump cuts funds to sanctuary cities. Forests burn under suspicious circumstances. Fed money funneled to dem goves for disaster relief.

Blogger Peter September 12, 2020 7:28 AM  

I love a great conspiracy theory but there's more than enough natural and MPAI reasons to explain whats happened and why.

You move from the cities , further out into the country, eventually out into the woods, the forest is bone dry and it takes nothing to start a fire... even just a car parked on the grass, a cigarette butt, a glass bottle or lightning. Moving requires money, the rich have money, therefore some of those caught in the fire are rich homeowners. There's little green space in cities, ground is concrete and asphalt which doesn't burn..the poor live in the city. Get the idea...

One has to ask my fellow followers of faith at what point does rhetorical conspiracy become false witness.

Blogger LZ September 12, 2020 7:42 AM  

The left "did" this to the forests with incompetent land management for 40 years. It did it by encouraging rioting, looting and arson. I don't believe it is intentional by the high left. The low left is having fun burning things and the high left spins every disaster. Remember they control mass media. Leftist collapse is a series of mostly unintended failures that are blamed on Nazis.

Blogger jla September 12, 2020 7:45 AM  

And yet Sean Hannity still drones on and on about the 99%. I'm convinced he's fake oppo because nobody can be as consistently stupid as he is about all the right things.

Blogger Lazarus September 12, 2020 7:48 AM  

"And the attacks should serve as a warning to the Patriot community that has retreated from the cities and suburbs that even distance will not suffice to assure they will be left alone."

Q, I'm in Oregon City. Clackamas County. Level 2 Evacuation. Terrified. Fires raging everywhere. I've been posting to you here for about 2 weeks about these fires. It is real. The rednecks around me are on alert. The others are completely brainwashed. There is no hope for them. Their eyeballs are no longer connected to their brains. Like 90% of ppl are hopelessly brainwashed by the media.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 12, 2020 7:52 AM  

Q has exposed yet another deep state cell in the FBI. No wonder Trump is relying on the US Marshals so much. Could be the FBI needs to join the CIA and be completely disbanded next year when the DHS goes away. TGE's second and third terms are going to make his first term seem boring.

Blogger McChuck September 12, 2020 7:54 AM  

"That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?"
Nice small town you've got there. Be a shame if something happened to it.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2020 8:03 AM  

The media is in a bad place on this. They don't want to show it in any detail, because the locals are outright saying it's Antifa, and there's plenty of evidence of that. So they want to take a thousand-mile view, showing orange skies and lamenting bad things happening in Trump's America. But if they don't get in there and protect their allies with cameras, county sheriffs will coordinate with militias and clean up the problem.

Blogger Kevin September 12, 2020 8:05 AM  

IF antifa is setting these fires then it is a brilliant tactic. In this type of low-grade 4GW conflict you want your side's acts of violence to be ambiguous while keeping the other side's are clear and undeniable. If Patriots were to respond by publicly massacring a few Leftists then this would represent an antifa victory. If Patriots respond they must to so in a plausibly deniable fashion.

Blogger American Spartan September 12, 2020 8:13 AM  

Many reasons, hatred of nature, beauty, and the freedom it provides, also who lives out there? 90% plus right whites ie “nazis” so they burn us out, driving us to the suburb to be watched and controlled.

Blogger VD September 12, 2020 8:23 AM  

I love a great conspiracy theory but there's more than enough natural and MPAI reasons to explain whats happened and why.

You're extremely stupid, Peter. The links are to people being arrested for starting these fires.

One has to ask my fellow followers of faith at what point does rhetorical conspiracy become false witness.

And now you're banned for Churchianity... at best. No more commenting here.

Blogger Gregory the Tall September 12, 2020 8:26 AM  

Sorry, your honor, my client identifies as a pyrophile which used to be called a psychiatric disease, but is now regarded as a sexual orientation and therefore is covered by antidiscrimination laws.

Blogger Cable Salad September 12, 2020 8:27 AM  

Tim Fool is a leftist. Who cares what he says or thinks, other than other leftists?

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2020 8:38 AM  

IF antifa is setting these fires then it is a brilliant tactic.

It would be more brilliant if they weren't already getting spotted and caught. But as a strategy, it makes sense. They've been training for urban street fighting, and they do pretty well there. But when they venture to smallish towns, it goes poorly. They just don't have the manpower or guns to spread out across rural areas. That's why in their fantasies they always have Chinese or EU troops doing that for them.

So, drive down the highway setting fires and head back to the city, hoping the fires will clear out their enemies. It could only work under perfect weather conditions, and it still won't do what they hoped, but it made sense to try it.

Blogger bramley says "Enoch was right" September 12, 2020 8:38 AM  

Antifa and leftists in general have known for a long time that rural OR & WA are home to a huge patriot and white nationalist movement. Where did those Trump supporters sporting OR/WA plates at the recent rally come from? Not suburban Portland or Seattle, that's for sure. Definite signs of planning and co-ordination to disrupt and destroy the right.

If the feds were playing for the good guys they would be all over the encrypted chat channels that are used to plan this, have undercovers infiltrating the 'autonomous' groups and aim to roll up the command chain, but instead they gaslight, deceive, misdirect. They say they want to stop 'misinformation' by using the very thing they want to limit. Paradoxical. Rubbish.

This is a signal that the black block is willing to go 'by any means necessary', while the law enforcement structure dissimulate and prevaricate, skirting the need for a proper response to the provocation and blatant criminal activity anybody can observe with their own eyes.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer September 12, 2020 8:42 AM  

That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?

exhausting the enemy. anything that causes your enemy to have expend finite resources on other stuff.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer September 12, 2020 8:49 AM  

...In this type of low-grade 4GW conflict you want your side's acts of violence to be ambiguous while keeping the other side's are clear and undeniable....

and cheap. Bic lighters , a car, and a tank of gas.


....90% plus right whites ie “nazis” so they burn us out, driving us to the suburb to be watched and controlled...

Didnt Pol Pot so that in cambodia?

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 12, 2020 8:51 AM  

Alinsky RULE 6: “A good tactic is one your people enjoy.”

A tactic like arson. Enjoyed by people like Jeffrey Acord.

http://www.protesterprivilege.com/2020/09/10/antifa-arsonist-arrested-near-tacoma-wa-after-live-streaming-himself/

One has to get up way late in the morning to fool FBI Special Agent In Charge Loren Cannon. But it can be done people. It. Can. Be. Done.

Blogger Silent Draco September 12, 2020 8:51 AM  

Terrible tragedy, no survivors from a fire caused by:

- illegal camping
- unpermitted bonfire or burn
- car incident
- intoxicated and lost control

At least the locals got the perimeter contained fast. (Pic of cute squirrel or bunny) Saved the forest.

Blogger Tiny Bunch September 12, 2020 9:04 AM  

Antifa also calls in false reports to divided the police's attention. The FBI is willfully being lead around by the nose.

Blogger Stilicho September 12, 2020 9:16 AM  

>>trusted, official sources<<

Laughable.

Blogger Stilicho September 12, 2020 9:18 AM  

>>Tim Pool's red pill is not going down easily.<<

Take the pill now or reality will administer a suppository later

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 12, 2020 9:20 AM  

"even distance will not suffice"

I keep trying to convey this. Running to the urals won't save anybody. It only delays when you get eaten.
The whole survivalist prepper thing brainwashing gay-op to make running away...AND THEN WAITING... the automatic natural unquestioned plan of action.
Imagine if the mindset was to fight. Imagine if, instead of run away with a tacticool "bug out plan" to go eat packaged food and take up space like a boomer, everybody just kept two battle packs and an intent to be as effective as possible in the 48 hours left to live. No "October Revolution" scenario would be possible.


Had my fill of these boomeristic types, kids already grown up and liberal as hell, with their survival plans put in a woods. They chide me for my lack of prep. I ask "what are you going to do once you get out there?"

Escape plans are for mothers and children only. Anybody else is a coward.
Leningrad must burn.

Blogger Gettimothy September 12, 2020 9:21 AM  

Chris Wray has instituted Ethics Training Classes for the FBI; This will all end very soon.

One has to ask my fellow followers of faith at what point does rhetorical conspiracy become false witness.

Nice try, Hasbara, but the moniker reveals the dark and dangerous urges that torment you.

If Patriots were to respond by publicly massacring a few Leftists then this would represent an antifa victory. If Patriots respond they must to so in a plausibly deniable fashion.

Burning at the stake comes to mind.

Blogger Lazarus September 12, 2020 9:35 AM  

Southern B.C. has the same climate conditions as Washington State. This year was and is the quietest fire season in 10 years. Compare and contrast.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) September 12, 2020 9:37 AM  

1. Laramie Hirsch September 12, 2020 6:45 AM
That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?



The Communist Manifesto tells the Proletariat that they are in a war of total extermination against the Bourgeoisie ( genocide ).

in a war, casualties cannot be shied away from.



11. Peter September 12, 2020 7:28 AM
One has to ask my fellow followers of faith at what point does rhetorical conspiracy become false witness.



at what point does ignoring obvious fact become false witness?

how long has the FBI been lying about Russia Collusion? about Hillary not having "intent" to break numerous Laws?



24. bramley says "Enoch was right" September 12, 2020 8:38 AM
This is a signal that the black block is willing to go 'by any means necessary', while the law enforcement structure dissimulate and prevaricate, skirting the need for a proper response to the provocation and blatant criminal activity anybody can observe with their own eyes.



exactly, this is the precise course of action which was taken by the mayors of Seattle and Portland.

the refusal of Law Enforcement and the Prosecutors office to uphold the Law against these animals ( at the behest of the Mayors ) is what has permitted these cities to descend into shithole status.

and after 6 months of this public enabling, willful incompetence and deceit ( +4 years in regards to Muh Russia / Muh Ukraine ), Peter is accusing *US* of being liars and "rhetorical conspiracists", whatever the hell that is.

makes you wonder how enthusiastic Peter is about his Satanism.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot September 12, 2020 9:42 AM  

Oregon officials are noting that no antifa members have been arrested in connection with the fires

Please to be noting, not being arrested has absolutely no relationship to one's guilt, or even officialdom's knowledge of your crimes.

Blogger Doom September 12, 2020 10:02 AM  

I was pretty sure the fires in Logan Canyon, Utah, and other places along the Wasatch Front, were antifa... of course, antifa is a cover for a bunch of woke skinhead groups and the like, many academically based, a front itself. The locals don't believe, but they don't realize how high antifa support goes, and believe the FIB. I don't bother trying to convince. Besides, you never know with whom you speak these days.

Blogger jkmack September 12, 2020 10:02 AM  

Only good commie in the forest, is a dead commie in the forest.

Blogger Nostromo September 12, 2020 10:05 AM  

I have been telling friends and family the the GE no longer trusts the FBI. How could he when they are still pulling crap on him! And that was why there was the deputizations. The entire alphabet soup agencies in DC need to be purged. Every single one of them.

Blogger jkmack September 12, 2020 10:05 AM  

I think you just demonstrated false witness for everyone, perfectly.

Blogger Oswald September 12, 2020 10:07 AM  

The number of patriots in a country is almost always a small number. The rest of the people are lukewarm at best, content to live their lives without complaining to much, And of course, there is the other side, the traitors. In good times, their numbers remain small, but in bad times, their numbers grow. If they grow big enough, then the whole country suffers, and can be destroyed by them. At that point, only an outside force can defeat them.

My point though, is the people in the middle don't matter much, because they are sheep and will go along with whatever direction the wind is blowing. They are not likely to awaken to the truth, though a few sleeping patriots may awaken.

In this time, the wind is blowing strong from the left. How can this be reversed? At some point it can't. If we are at that point, then we will simply have to await the arrival of the Chinese or some other force to straighten it out. If we are not at the point of no return, then it is up to the patriots (Shepherds) to do something about the traitors (wolves). The sheep will always be sheep and no amount of truth telling will ever make them anything else. At best, the sheep might be able to be used for a short stampede, but not much else.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 12, 2020 10:19 AM  

no antifa members have been arrested

Because Antifa doesn't have membership cards, so there's no such thing as an official "Antifa member." That's why they insist that it's not an organization. But they've arrested a bunch of people who look, walk, and quack like Antifa, and the local people know that's who's doing it.

Blogger braq September 12, 2020 10:23 AM  

Saw this satellite feed with a "fire" layer posted elsewhere - click the arrows to move the time forward from 11:50pm September 7th to midnight on September 8th and note the difference in the number of fire signatures in Oregon and Washington.

If this is an accurate representation of that time frame (unsure if live weather from that time is included), it appears to have been a highly coordinated multi-state arson attack.

Blogger Sterling Pilgrim September 12, 2020 10:29 AM  

Now that you’ve gotten the praise for meth-addled transients out of the way, can we start to discuss counter-strategies?

In the old days it was simple, you could look and see who was the outsider. Now, they can be anywhere, freely, and then just start a fire. They have unmitigated movement, comms, and funding.

When do we stop analyzing and start countering? And I mean as a community, not just individuals.
Maybe we are too afraid of the ATF these days.

I welcome a kick in the ass here. I’ve just seen a lot of “oh wow look at how effective and organized those guys are. We had no idea what they could do.”

Blogger Seeingsights September 12, 2020 10:37 AM  

Hundreds of other French churches were burned or damaged — in deliberate attacks.

https://www.hudson.org/research/15002-france-s-other-burning-churches

In the past few years, when arson and vandalism have been committed is the US and France, its been either leftists or Islamists behind it.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 12, 2020 10:38 AM  

Flipping thru my twitter and Karl Denninger found a nugget posted by a nursenik about some woman in Oregon who got an evac order and on her way out the gate to her place met the local sheriff and he told her they have found all sort of evidence of arson. I know its third hand knowledge that might be false it does seem probably because the left sure thinks they have the motive.

Blogger Avalanche September 12, 2020 10:42 AM  

@1 "That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?"

Terrorism is about creating, maintaining, and increasing fear.

Any homeowner with sense fears wild fires -- even if their area has never had one. Everyone has been exposed to the devastation CA wildfires cause. Everyone has been exposed to our enemies burning down businesses and homes, and threatening to "come to your suburb next" to be attacked.

Americans and specifically Whites, unlike the VAST majority of non-Americans and non-Whites, CARE about Nature. Want to protect species and plants. Give time and money to environmental groups: either the good ones or the destructive ones -- different methods but same desired end-point.

So, fear for their own homes and towns; added to the sheer horror of the destruction of the natural world....

Ahd, I'd suggest add in the randomness and evil of doing such horrors -- and you've got a trifecta!

Blogger Reziac September 12, 2020 10:46 AM  

A study in two maps:

https://twitter.com/rialynnallen/status/1304785444303900674

Apparently it's difficult to get a passport if you're an arsonist.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella September 12, 2020 10:46 AM  

Why forest fires?

We had a county burn down about ten years ago, from a poorly maintained tree line touching electric transmission wires. Te years out, it is still a wasteland. There are small trees, but you can still see burnt stumps. People are still without the comforts they had acquired over the course of their life, and that's with disaster relief money, school donations and robust church interventions.

There is not a robust church network up in the Northwest corner. The fire-setters have managed to impoverish already poor people for at least ten years, and possibly on into the next generation.

Now add killing off wildlife. Also, let's see, wiping out the livelihoods of loggers. Burning evidence of unsavory, criminal activities: the Northwest corner of the USA has more serial killers than the rest of the USA, I think I've read? It was in defense of a vampire war in Twilight going unnoticed by regular humans, so I'm going to think this was an obsessive fan who did some original stat work. Huge numbers of runaways, too, and native kids. So, dead bodies to not bother burying.

Forests right now host grow operations. Getting rid of evidence at the end of harvest season before any law enforcement gets serious under Trump 2.0 seems like a good idea.

And, the always popular FEMA slush funds. It's not like the governors and mayors don't have conferences and phone calls and meetups on how to creatively spend that money into the right pockets. Austin petitioned for a frisbee golf course, right in front of some very nice buildings, a few years back. I think the only problem these officials had with the Puerto Rican governor is that she got caught.

Blogger Avalanche September 12, 2020 10:48 AM  

@3 Tim Pool ... is in the process of the worlds slowest redpill.

Tim Pool is a recovering soyboy... Weak because safe, never had to think about defending himself or his people. No doubt he thought his carefully reasoned descriptions of why things shouldn't go the way they are would be able to reach what he thought were reasonable libs: those he saw as he saw himself. But, the more exposure you have to reality, the more reality changes you. Looked into the abyss, anyone?

I had to quit watching him long ago; his... milquetoast ... blindness irritated me. I am now beginning to watch him a bit; I have hope that finally owning a gun and learning to use it, will continue his recovery from the disability he was given into manhood.

Blogger Avalanche September 12, 2020 10:55 AM  

@23 "It would be more brilliant if they weren't already getting spotted and caught"

It is SO hard to hire good help these days!

Blogger ScottC September 12, 2020 10:59 AM  

Of course. Ask yourself this: why aren't forest fires raging in Montana, Wyoming and South Dakota?

Kinda odd how the fires began in Antifa strongholds like Oregon and WA, when they could have easily happened anywhere else.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2020 11:01 AM  

Peter wrote:One has to ask my fellow followers of faith at what point does rhetorical conspiracy become false witness.
We are Christians, so we aren't your fellow believers.
It's always fun when the satanists try to tell us how to follow Christ.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 12, 2020 11:07 AM  

Oswald wrote:My point though, is the people in the middle don't matter much, because they are sheep and will go along with whatever direction the wind is blowing. They are not likely to awaken to the truth, though a few sleeping patriots may awaken.
They are not sheep because they are asleep, they are ``asleep'' because they are sheep. They are going to grumble and go along with the winner, no matter who wins, and they are going to deny and ignore until there is a clear winner, or until the fight engulfs and destroys them.
Whichever side wins, the sheep will cheer and virtue-signal, once they're sure it's safe to do so. If we want to win hearts and minds, we must win.

Blogger Rex Leroy King September 12, 2020 11:07 AM  

Sterling Pilgrim wrote:In the old days it was simple, you could look and see who was the outsider.

What a shame we can't use such identifying features as man-buns, tattoos, ear-gauges, soy-face, etc.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella September 12, 2020 11:07 AM  

Also: own or rent? The poor people pay rent, and are driven out. They don't own the land. Who do they pay rent to? Do they know who they pay rent to? There are family land trusts that work on a scale of 100s of years. They are planning to keep their grandchildren wealthy and at ease. They might not need the rent.

You burn over a field to get rid of pests. What if poor people are a pest? They certainly have laws up in the Northwest that treat poor people as if they were pests- assisted suicide for cancer patients, and such. The state government has denied medicine to poor people and then sent them letters telling them how to commit suicide. That's not a life is valuable sort of position.

Then, among the wealthy, what if some are more wealthy than others, and would like to purchase their lands? The Fishers? Fischers? Who own the Gap also own great big tracts of land up the coast. They are likely Phoenician navy, as Miles Mathis terms it- immense wealth from overseas textile trade is a hallmark of Phoenician navy in his essays- but they are also likely new money, and less money than, say, Mr Bezos and Mr Gates, both of whom have cousins, family and land. That's not even touching the lesser known mining families or even the Mormon clans.

So, if you need the rent and the forest goods money right now, instead of in 100+ years, then you are likely to lose your land to the next larger land baron, from this fire. The larger land baron has an "interest in politics and helping the little people" ( you know, like Antifa justice leagues.)

We are thinking this year, this decade, this generation. They are thinking this century, the generations that follow. And they can rely on their generations, and we cannot, but are having to relearn, again, after the Baby Boom betrayals.

If you google Anonymous Conservative ammonia, it will bring up an interview with a man called "rofschild" or something like that. AC makes comments on the man's discussion. What is clear, however, is that the man thinks in generations and centuries, not single lifetimes or decades. It's one of the discussions that has me asking questions about Arnold Schwarzenegger being a gigolo sperm donor.

Blogger Avalanche September 12, 2020 11:09 AM  

@36 "...no antifa members have been arrested in connection with the fires"
Please to be noting, not being arrested has absolutely no relationship to one's guilt, or even officialdom's knowledge of your crimes."

Please to be noting, not being arrested has absolutely no relationship to one's guilt, to one's membership in or previous and current actions on behalf of antifa, nor even officialdom's knowledge of your crimes.

FIFY.

Blogger Azimus September 12, 2020 11:12 AM  

Long ago the government proved with congressional testimony that it would knowingly and willfully lie to the American people in order to protect their interests from potential harm - the first proven instance I can think of was Hank Paulson's testimony to a Democrat-controlled House where he defended his actions by saying something to the tune of "we were staring into the void and we had to take extreme measures", and compare that to his public statements when he was in office about it being just a normal correction, nothing to fear, and so forth. All he did was establosh conclusively that he was lying in 2008 or lying to congress when he gave his testimony (must've been 2010 timeframe). I'm sure there were examples from the 1700's or even 2000BC but this was the blatant, out in the open one that did it for me.

Blogger Sheila4g September 12, 2020 11:48 AM  

I don't know if I am able to post pictures here, but I found this most informative: wildfires meme

Blogger Noah B. September 12, 2020 12:02 PM  

"That said, why would the Left do this to the forests?"

Like everything else about the left, their environmentalism is a lie. If they wanted to protect our environment they would oppose immigration. They would oppose taxation of privately held property left in a semi-natural state. They would encourage homeschooling. And they wouldn't fly around in private jets.

The farther they remove themselves from God, the more they will come to hate every part of His creation.

Blogger Wild Ape September 12, 2020 12:02 PM  

The Democrats are getting a twofer with the fires by getting Trump's victories out of the headlines and virtue signaling about global warming. Is it amazing that Nevada, Arizona, and Idaho are under the same heat conditions and are on the dry side of the mountains where a fire would more likely occur but the wet side burns more? They are just evil. I'm sick of their never-let-a-crisis-go-to-waste mentality. I hope that philosophy is countered by a never-let-a-bullet-go-to-waste and I bet the fires magically disappear that. Armed citizens spotted the arsonists? Red-handed? They just watched while their fields burned? Keep your rusty rifle you cowardly simps! Donate your bullets to a biker gang because there is a shortage and you don't use them even to protect your home.

Blogger Good Will September 12, 2020 12:13 PM  

Why would the left burn down the forests? To provide a plank for Biden to stand on. With cCovid-19 "flaming out," these fires reinvigorate the "climate change narrativrand Trump is, after all, "anti-science," supposedly. The world be damned.

Blogger Chip Hazard September 12, 2020 12:23 PM  

@32 Herr Doktor, you have conveyed this better than I have, repeatedly. I mentioned the Russian Revolution a few posts back, saying that if we studied it and the subsequent Civil War we could gain some excellent takeaway.

Lenin consolidated power in the urban centers by bureaucracy and centrality, and later by terror among the sheep and the stupid. Fleeing to the Urals delayed the inevitable as there's nothing in the frozen tundra; not ammo, not food and definitely not manpower. Between controlling the urban centers, making the people compliant, and former Tsarist officers becoming Red Army agents to save their own skins, the Whites were doomed.

It's different in America, however, as the land is generally fertile and the people aren't as backward (illiterate Russian peasants aren't exactly the same as West Virginians or rural Georgians, despite the Left's insistence to the contrary).

We should game this scenario extensively. In my place alone I have been doing so. Geographically, I am certainly fucked. This is offset by my position-- I am at a SR-71 level. I am observing.

I remind everyone to re-read Ian Fleming's Thunderball; the chapters dealing with Blofeld are not only excellent writing, but they convey the need for information--who has it, when, and how they use it.

Blogger Saint September 12, 2020 12:55 PM  

Never give your enemy what it wants. All of this posturing for war by Anti-Fa, the prometheans, and the Dems... What are they trying to accomplish?

If they thought they'd win a civil war for real, wouldn't they have done it by now?

If there was a civil war, this year, which side would win?

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) September 12, 2020 12:55 PM  

37. Doom September 12, 2020 10:02 AM
I was pretty sure the fires in Logan Canyon, Utah,



ah, the Little America cut-off. i like that Western Inn in Tremonton.

Blogger Pseudotsuga September 12, 2020 1:12 PM  

Nearly all the lefties I track on social media are using these fires to amplify the leftist "sciency" meme of climate change.
The tactic is this: "How can you non-lefty Nazi scum deny the evidence of all that smoke?! See? Climate change is real, so vote leftist to stop it!"

Blogger Jack Amok September 12, 2020 1:18 PM  

click the arrows to move the time forward from 11:50pm September 7th to midnight on September 8th and note the difference in the number of fire signatures in Oregon and Washington.

I do not recall any large thunderstorms on the 7th or 8th to account for that many "natural" ignitions. There was wind, but that just means the teefer leadership knows how to read a weather forecast. There's no doubt this is a coordinated arson attack. The clincher is how adamant official sources are about denying it. If there wasn't a conspiracy to cover up, the FBI wouldn't bother saying anything, and the media wouldn't bother pushing it.

Why are they doing this? A few reasons, some already covered, but also just to sow chaos. And, the Nat Guard is used to help fight wildfires when they get really bad, meaning they're not available to fight Teefers.

Blogger Saint September 12, 2020 1:41 PM  

Would a civil war even be desirable for Patriots in the US?

Because all it would take is one motivated computer programmer with a usb stick and the right target to starve every major city in North America.

It's a good thing I don't know how to code, and have no desire to start a war.

/shrug

Blogger liberranter September 12, 2020 1:45 PM  

And yet Sean Hannity still drones on and on about the 99%. I'm convinced he's fake oppo because nobody can be as consistently stupid as he is about all the right things.

Of course he's fake opposition, as is everyone at Faux News except Tucker and Judge Napolitano - who, not at all coincidentally, happen to also be the two most harrassed and persecuted figures among that network's regulars.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants September 12, 2020 1:50 PM  

No. Tim Pool isn't white. That's what you all are missing.

Blogger FP September 12, 2020 2:14 PM  

Lazarus wrote:Southern B.C. has the same climate conditions as Washington State. This year was and is the quietest fire season in 10 years. Compare and contrast.

Oh, but that crazy wind effect that came in! The perfect excuse as it were to blame any fires they set on. Its the climate change of a rare high winds blowing through the canyons and valleys!

Awfully convenient.

Blogger Canada78Bear September 12, 2020 2:38 PM  

The same people planning and carrying out executions of Trump supporters on tape would not have a second thought burning the country side to destroy houses and livelyhood of same.

Natural wildfires need a combustion source and are not yearly and widespread. These are man-made.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash September 12, 2020 2:54 PM  

liberranter wrote:Of course he's fake opposition, as is everyone at Faux News except Tucker and Judge Napolitano
Napolitano is a gay rights activist and grifter.

Blogger jarheadljh September 12, 2020 2:55 PM  

A word from the affected area - I live and work South of Eugene on I5. We haven't seen the sun since Tuesday. Temperature on the ground at my house hasn't gotten above 70F that I know of and it's usually been lower than that. The Face Diapers of Submission now actually make a bit of sense to wear because while they can't block something the size of a virus particle, they can block most airborne ash.

The word had already gotten out by Tuesday that this was Antifa. Semi-organized armed patrols had started up looking for arsonists, and let me assure you if found the headline in the Red Guard(Register Guard)would not read "Local Vigilantes Capture Arson Suspect", but instead would read "Gunshot Victim Found in River. Police Investigating." So if they have found anybody you're not gonna know it. We all know whose side the cops, the courts, and the press will take.

As VD says, this is a Color Revolution. Irregular Warfare. Whenever Antifa leaves the safety of Portland or Eugene where the local authorities protect them and they have to deal with the rednecks they get their asses handed to them. Even in Portland, they demonstrated that they required half a dozen to a dozen people to assassinate one person, meanwhile in WI one kid with no weapons training on the retreat killed two and crippled a third while acting independently. That's math that doesn't add up in their favor.

Enter the fires, they lose a dozen people to take out half a dozen small towns full of Kyle Rittenhouses. And counting. That's math that works very well for them.

Blogger Magnifico September 12, 2020 3:18 PM  

@61 Wild Ape - It's time for the 3 S's. Simple as that.

Blogger sammibandit September 12, 2020 3:32 PM  

He's dumb as he is bald under his stupid hat.

Back in 2015 when a Socialist Internationale party took power in Alberta there was a massive fire up north. There was arson involved as well. Maybe that was a precursor to this arson also done by Socialist Internationale groups.

Blogger Canadian Warlord September 12, 2020 4:03 PM  

@Lazarus
>>>"Southern B.C. has the same climate conditions as Washington State. This year was and is the quietest fire season in 10 years. Compare and contrast."
__________________________

A topographic map of Washington and BC does bear out the similarities in the north/south nature of the land between the coastals, rockies, etc. mountain ranges. But, the largest factor, by far, is written in the last 50 or 60 years of logging and replant.

South BC I can't speak much to. But north of the caribou interior, the huge amount of pine planted by forestry in the 60s is a decade+ overdue for a giant fire, which will dwarf anything we're seeing now. I've seen entire mountainsides that are red, because of the pine beetle. Nature takes care of this by having multiple species in the same place, that way the entire forest doesn't burn down all at once.

Barkerville has one road in. That place will have to be evacuated by helicopter.

These fires, and all fires we've been seeing, are nothing. There's a big one lurking that will kill thousands of people, and will destroy entire towns that have been there for centuries - not some idiot Californians who just built 10 years ago on a picturesque hillside. For evidence of the influence of forestry practice, check out Australia, and how the underbrush there is _the_ giant factor that determines fire or no fire.

Environmentalists are just the match - lightning works just fine too.

Blogger Doom September 12, 2020 4:15 PM  

Uhrm, yea. Devil. Details. Always. *wink*

Wait until they realize the price of the details.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 12, 2020 5:23 PM  

There are Antifa at minimum, working in the Portland FBI office. The FBI isn’t being naive or stupid, they are HELPING ANTIFA.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 12, 2020 5:26 PM  

Any fires in BC near the USA will be from Antifa not knowing which side of the border they’re on.

Blogger scimitar September 12, 2020 5:40 PM  

These feral dork Antifa types are literal "firebugs " when they were protesting in the cities so lighting fires elsewhere is not the slightest bit shocking. The "arson as cause of wildfires " is likely the cause of a lot of these fires but has been suppressed by the MSM.

Blogger Arthur Isaac September 12, 2020 5:45 PM  

Camping and the outdoors is not diverse. Hence racist. It all needs to be destroyed.

Blogger Duke Norfolk September 12, 2020 5:45 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Napolitano is a gay rights activist and grifter.

Didn't he come down with TDS too? Or something similar; muh principles, and all that.

I don't know, I stopped paying attention to him when I left libertarianism behind (AKA pulled my head out of my @ss).

Blogger eclecticme September 12, 2020 6:27 PM  

So they caught arsonists but not extremists arsonists?
They must be moderate arsonists.
Good to know. /sarcasm

Blogger Thomas Bateman September 12, 2020 8:36 PM  

Who would join the FBI nowadays?

Blogger JamesB.BKK September 13, 2020 12:11 AM  

"Running to the urals won't save anybody."

Secession is an option and should be preferable to extinction. Coalescing into somewhat defendable territory for distributed defense is worthwhile even if not the original plan no?

Blogger Jack Amok September 13, 2020 12:21 AM  

So they caught arsonists but not extremists arsonists?

One man's extremist is another man's liberty lighter.

Blogger Laconic September 13, 2020 1:03 AM  

Have you even looked into it?
Retarded

Blogger Jill in StL September 13, 2020 2:48 AM  

On Unauthorized front...Wranglerstar's heroic fire-fighting skills, along with his fellow neighbors, along with his insights in how to prepare for the likelihood of these fires is excellent, by the way. I was on pins and needles for 2 days until he posted a video today on The YooTube, letting me relax a bit that at least for now, his new homestead and family were safe (please remember to keep his family and his neighbors' families in your prayers - the fires are not over yet). One of the questions a viewer asked was whether he thought any of the fires were intentionally started and he believes that yes, some were (some were not too or the result of human stupidity). Anyway, there is key info in Wranglerstar's videos for those who live in rural forested areas as to what type of supplies/equipment you should have in preparation for fires that is key - if anyone needs that info asap.

Blogger Dark glasses Woody September 13, 2020 3:38 AM  

So while you were lighting the fire your other hand was in your pants? Case dismissed!

Blogger Gypsy September 13, 2020 3:50 AM  

I am too old and I will not see the day...
But my hope is that someone, someday will enjoy the glorious state of California as I once did.
It's astonishing to me the hate that it must take to burn down the fabulous forests of the West Coast.
It's utter darkness.

Blogger rotekz September 13, 2020 4:03 AM  

The location of fires has a northern edge that just so happens to match the Canadian border. Strange that.

Blogger Gypsy September 13, 2020 4:07 AM  

As I watch my former home burn, I know the Devil exists.

Blogger MrNiceguy September 13, 2020 10:45 AM  

The real message from this: Don't expect the Feds to help you. If you're a rural patriot and you catch someone lighting a fire, exercise the 3S solution and be vigilant for them to send a replacement.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd September 14, 2020 1:58 PM  

Jill in StL wrote:Anyway, there is key info in Wranglerstar's videos for those who live in rural forested areas as to what type of supplies/equipment you should have in preparation for fires that is key - if anyone needs that info asap.
Clear everything flammable back at least 100 feet from everything you want to save, just for a start. Trees, shrubbery, tall grass and weeds, wood piles; everything.

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