Pity the poor SF-SJW
Strange, I don't recall any of them being terribly bothered about fake reviews back when their fellow SJWs were posting fake reviews about A THRONE OF BONES or SJWs Always Lie. But now that Tor authors are being targeted by fake reviewers, it's a national emergency:
Remember, this is a book none of them have read, and none of them even have access to. We know who advanced reader copies have been sent to, and none of them are on the list. This is purely about continuing their terror campaign against a randomly picked target for fun.
I fully expect that before I wake up tomorrow, STARSHIP REPO will have several dozen fake, malicious reviews already posted on its Amazon page, along with the half dozen that have already appeared on Goodreads. All of the above evidence and explanation has already been repeatedly sent to Amazon customer service, both from myself, and from my publisher. And what has Amazon done in response?
Absolutely nothing. Indeed, they have actively refused to take any action at all, falling back on the excuse that their algorithms have already determined the reviews are genuine, and no human actively polices them anyway.
This is, to put it mildly, disappointing coming from one of the largest and most powerful companies in the entire world. When all is said and done, I don’t really blame the trolls for their antisocial, maladjusted behavior, any more than I would blame a baby for soiling its diaper, or a college student puking up six hours of 2-4-1 Long Island Ice Teas in an Applebee’s sink on their 21st birthday. In all three cases, they simply have no control over themselves, and can’t be expected to do better.
But Amazon and other companies like Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit can be expected to do better. Indeed, we must demand they do. Targets of online harassment campaigns must be given the tools they need to combat these all-encompassing attacks, and their oppressors silenced.
Somehow, when it comes to our collective online lives, society has agreed to the perverse notion that people of accomplishment and status, be they actors, athletes, writers, or musicians, should just shut up and take it when harassed. “Don’t feed the trolls” people who have never been in the spotlight say, not realizing that trolls turn to stone in the presence of sunlight. Meanwhile, hordes of anonymous terrorists are somehow afforded infinite free speech rights, up to and including consequence-free libel, incitement to violence, and threats of bodily harm or death.
This social compact is not just counterintuitive, but utterly insane. It validates and encourages the dead worst behavior, from the world’s most awful people. It has poisoned social media and public discourse, and it must change.
I, for one, can't be bothered to care. It is what it is. Maybe they should consider building their own platforms.
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Hilarious. It doesn't even matter that the principle is correct; since they only apply it to them and theirs, it is not a principle at all.
He is wrong, because he questions corporate morality of the Five Great American Corporations. I remember the declarations of 2017: Facebook, Google, Apple, and Amazon were anointed as the new centers of corporate morality by the Resistance, a group to which that guy clearly happily belonged and tweeted his support. He needs to confess his transgressions against Amazon and beg for their forgiveness; he has wrongthought against corporate morality and he needs to Arthur Chu mindkill himself.
The book has a character named Fonald Plump. Hahaha. Get it?
Fonald.Plump.
Nobody can handle this level of smart boy subtlety.
"When all is said and done, I don’t really blame the trolls for their antisocial, maladjusted behavior, any more than I would blame a baby for soiling its diaper, or a college student puking up six hours of 2-4-1 Long Island Ice Teas in an Applebee’s sink on their 21st birthday"
It's that forced humor made for cheap laughs to cover up his seething rage. Superficial analogies, bleh
"hordes of anonymous terrorists"
"the dead worst behavior, from the world’s most awful people."
I know it's hyperbole but jeezus, you just know these people have had no contact with just how horrible this world can be.
Why should they? They pretty much own all the mainstream platforms.
He can rent this brick and smack it against his head. It'll distract him from the false review angst, and amuse me.
Still eagerly awaiting the opportunity to give a fske review of Scalzi's next book
No, they don't. The Prometheans do. And while the leftists were useful idiots to those, they were coddled and protected. Unfortunately, their usefulness has ended as the battlefield moved on to other areas, and they are only now discovering this, and that the battlefield has become fair as a consequence. Obviously, they ain't very happy.
It must be exhausting to be filled with so much hate, it's literally a full time job in their mothers basement.
I admit that taking the time to write a fake review of a book you've never read is a bit of a dick move. On the other hand, the author probably didn't have a problem with the tactic when it was being used on folks he didn't like. So yeah, let him eat the shit sandwich he helped make.
"people of accomplishment and status"
Well, aren't we pleased with ourselves. And yet he can't get a return email from a publisher? So much for all that status.
Maybe the book is just bad?
12. Damelon Brinn September 19, 2020 4:36 PM
And yet he can't get a return email from a publisher?
i don't think he said that. he said that neither he nor his publisher could get a reasonable response from Amazon.
which is the same response noted RSHD Vox Day got several years back.
having said that, i find it amusing that he thinks that being celebrity ( or some other descriptor of accomplishment and status ) should insulate him from the same standards of behavior which he is demanding from everyone else.
"Somehow, when it comes to our collective online lives, society has agreed to the perverse notion that people of accomplishment and status, be they mothers, fathers, or businessmen should just shut up and take it when harassed.
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Meanwhile, hordes of Celebrities ( such as the Kardashians or Kathy Griffin ) are somehow afforded infinite free speech rights, up to and including consequence-free libel, incitement to violence, and threats of bodily harm or death."
T,FTFH
What an unfortunate name
Starship Pedo
It's interesting to note that he equates fake reviews to terrorism. Fake reviews are simply words. So words can equate to terrorism or a physical attack.
That's how they justify a physical attack on you if you use words or have ideas they disagree with.
It's self defense don't you see.
Nikolai Collushnikov wrote:So words can equate to terrorism or a physical attack.
The Left has maintained this lie for at least a decade: "Your words are violence, our violence is speech"
When SJWs aren't lying, SJWs are doubling-down. When SJWs aren't lying or doubling-down, SJWs are projecting. When SJWs aren't lying, doubling-down, or projecting, SJWs are destroying. When SJWs aren't lying, doubling-down, projecting, or destroying, SJWs are dead. Moral of story: A good SJW is a dead SJW.
The pretense and self aggrandizement in that screed makes me want to do a fake review just to punish them.
Google books has a 31 page preview. It's hard to explain, but some books are just hard to read. Starship Pedo feels like I'm pushing against molasses. It's a struggle to get through every sentence. Doesn't help that it's channeling ye olde sci-fi/fantasy trope of giving almost everything its own Special Boy name. And that the MC is a hip, spunky go-grrl thief with street smarts and ignorance that clash badly.
Who wants to bet the fake reviews aren't fake. Either others in the field trying to get a leg up by putting someone else down, it's how they do... Or... One of the prescreeners not wanting to put out their real name, but truly despising the book.
If I were a betting man, I'd lay dollars to donuts... or the other way around? dollars to dimes... that these aren't fake, most of them. Terrible writing won't get good reviews.
Translation: "I'm a victim. Buy my mediocre book out of pity and give me positive reviews. They can't keep getting away with this. Give me validation!"
Too bad. Starship repo actually sounds like a cool sf premise. But I'm not interested in some SJW screed. Besides, I hear it's got a bunch of one star reviews, so it can't be very good.
Who is the most likely culprit of these kinds of 'attacks'? The same segment of society that is complaining about it. This is mostly a question of labor distribution. Didn't he participate in such online theatrics? I sense a tell-tale heart at work.
...people of accomplishment and status, be they actors, athletes, writers, or musicians...
Interesting list of fields that accomplishment and status are limited to in his world.
society has agreed to the perverse notion that people of accomplishment and status, be they actors, athletes, writers, or musicians, should just shut up and take it when harassed
That's how it goes when you're Big Time. "Society" figures either you can handle it or you fall off, and all you mule-whining simply demonstrates you're not up to it, John boy.
@12- But chicks dig status
Maybe he did something to deserve harassment and death threats. It's probably his fault, unironically.
After seeing the TOR label, I accidentally read Starship REPO as Starship PEDO. I've been upvoting videos that decry Cuties & encourage dropping the subscription.
Considering that its preceding book was utter shit (waste of a kindle unlimited spot) I'm not even vaguely surprised this new book is being called as the garbage it is.
Here's a thought Patrick: Try not being a shitty woketard author penning utter garbage and your rating might improve.
"... or a college student puking up six hours of 2-4-1 Long Island Ice Teas in an Applebee’s sink on their 21st birthday ..."
He messed up subject pronoun agreement. That's not good writing. Also he didn't offer any support for how advance copies could not have been shared. Also also hard drinking is not measured in time increments and based on the detail that Long Island ice tea thing happened to him or some lightweight friend / family.
> One of the prescreeners not wanting to put out their real name, but truly despising the book.
Not only possible, but perhaps likely.
He also has this delusional concept that ARC copies never make it into the wild.
> ...swarming my YouTube channel, blog, and Instagram with homophobic and body-shaming comments, launching mass false reporting attacks...
Even if this were factually correct, has self-pity ever been an effective business strategy? It didn't even work for randos being booted off YouTube who desperately needed help, so why would it work for a mainstream author under a (formerly) big-league publisher?
It’s worth going down the rabbit hole to Tomlinson’s source article, and then to the linked sources in that just to get the full effect of Tomlinson’s hypocrisy.
Tomlinson derails how he calls random people on Twitter he’s never met racists and white supremacists but then is terrified of being called a racist or homophobe. And he links to an article where reports allege the most grievous of sins: “Anonymous users began making wild accusations that Lynn says have no basis in truth.”
It’s a bit late to be whining about wild accusations that have no basis in truth.
So I read his linked whinefest about getting twitter-mobbed, and concluded the guy is a douchenozzle who brought it on himself. Then I (tried to) read the sample for the linked novel, and suddenly Scalzi's raw work looked good. Every sentence uses the exact same kind of snark as his form of 'description' -- which got old before I could even tell what the book is about. If that's how he always writes, the negative reviews are honest. Frex:
"...the tone of the writing suggests the author considers himself very special indeed."
Yep... that's pretty much what I concluded.
With the sole exception of the David Weber homage of David Drake's 'advanced computer/robot advances a regressed world via war'*, I have been avoiding Tor quite a bit. Baen, Vox's place, and checking for high ratings on Kindle Unlimited are my sci fi go to the last several years.
I just read this post and comments, and looks like that will continue to be my policy.
*David Weber. Safehold. He really really gets into detail and internal thoughts, more so than his Honor Harrington series. David Drake's series were Raj Whitehall and also the Belisarius Series. If you decide to read them, do not read the final two books written by Tony Daniel (or do what you want, just a warning they were pretty bad)
Speaking of, did you hear that Terry Goodkind has just died?
You want to check out this year's Hugos. Cringe level: SATAN.
A bit long, but I like it!
Reader wrote:When SJWs aren't lying, SJWs are doubling-down. When SJWs aren't lying or doubling-down, SJWs are projecting. When SJWs aren't lying, doubling-down, or projecting, SJWs are destroying. When SJWs aren't lying, doubling-down, projecting, or destroying, SJWs are dead. Moral of story: A good SJW is a dead SJW.
Good kind dead? No more lezzie in leather More Sith stories? Boo boo. Since he was already converged he will be allowed to fade into obscurity.
This dork used a Firefly quote on his cover. Nuff said.
"Maybe they should consider building their own platforms."
The Dark Lord drops a triggering learn-to-code suggestion.
@27.
> @12- But chicks dig status
*wince* ...Modern music is tone-deaf.
Gimme the ZZ-Top version.
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