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Friday, September 11, 2020

The players have power

But Mike Florio and the rest of the sports media is ignoring the fact that the fans have even more:

The next test comes when millions of fans who haven’t been paying attention to every twist and turn of NFL news witness for the first time the renewed anthem protests, the messages in the end zone, the names on the helmet bumpers, and react negatively to these gestures with insults and worse. The league needs to be ready to show the players that the league truly has their backs when the inevitable blowback comes.

The league can’t and won’t make everyone happy. It needs to be very concerned about making the players happy, because the players’ power includes boycotting games.

Technically, it would be an illegal wildcat strike. As a practical matter, the league would risk horrible P.R. and employee relations by taking the union to court to force players back to work and/or to recover compensation for money lost by scrapped games. Indeed, NFL executive V.P. of football operations Troy Vincent already has said that the players have the “right” to skip games over social justice matters.

And so the challenge for the league will be to convince teams like the Dolphins that it’s not just talk, and that the league and the owners are truly on board with them. There’s no middle ground, no fence to ride, no needle to thread. If the league isn’t with the players on this, the league necessarily is against them. Unlike ever before, the players realize that they do something about it far more tangible than protest during the anthem.

They can walk out.

Sure they can. But the fans can walk out too. Tens of millions already have. And unlike the players, when a fan walks out, his exit is infinitely sustainable. And no feeble attempts to shame the fans who are rejecting the convergence of the league is going to put one single dollar back in the NFL's coffers.

It made no sense to boo. It wasn’t political in any way. But even an expression of unity has become political in this upside-down era of ours, because apparently everything must be viewed through a political lens, in the eyes of those who tolerate political viewpoints that mesh with their own but chafe in the face of any political viewpoints different than theirs as an invasion on their “escape” from having to deal with things that make them uncomfortable. So what about a plea for unity makes someone uncomfortable? And if someone is made uncomfortable by an expression of unity, doesn’t that say more about them than about the people striving for something so basic and fundamental? 

Of course it made sense. The players' action was political. The fans understand perfectly well that the "expression of unity" was just another lie, just another thinly disguised assault on America, Western civilization and White people. And what that very public rejection by the fans who haven't walked away from the NFL already says is that they are beginning to understand they are in a war on their culture, their society, and their civilization. Even shameless SJWs like Florio know they are in the minority; it's not an accident that PFT is keeping the comments closed on every post that touches upon the social justice convergence of the NFL.

I didn't watch one single moment of the Chiefs-Texans game. I didn't watch a single moment of NFL-related opinion and analysis. I haven't even read the box score or a single article on the actual game itself. It's the first time in 45 seasons that is the case. And given what I have read about the game and the importance the media is placing on the crowd's reaction to the political demonstration by the two teams, I'm very glad to have turned my back on the NFL. 

I am very far from the only one. And the sports media knows it, which is why at least one Sports Illustrated writer is worried about what the backlash they know perfectly well is coming will do to the league:

Today is when the blowback starts. Today is when owners tune in to their morning opinion channel of choice and ingest the inevitable and ridiculous response to Thursday night and how it is somehow, unquestionably un-American. What happens now? What happens if the boos persist? What happens if the polls shift? What happens when the wind changes? 

What happens is the league will eventually submit to its angry fans and ban all political expression by the players. The only question is whether it happens soon enough to prevent the 50 percent decline in TV ratings that is already underway.

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114 Comments:

Blogger Paulito September 11, 2020 8:05 AM  

"in the eyes of those who tolerate political viewpoints that mesh with their own but chafe in the face of any political viewpoints different than theirs"

Oh, the irony.

Blogger Steve Canyon September 11, 2020 8:06 AM  

That clown forget players walked off the job before on at least 2 occasions and all it accomplished was making fans mad? That alone tells you who really calls the shots in that relationship.

Blogger VFM #7634 September 11, 2020 8:07 AM  

If Biden wins after all this, the American people will deserve what's coming to us good and hard.

Blogger New Creation September 11, 2020 8:22 AM  

The XFL and AAF proved that there are more than enough decent replacement players and that people will still watch lower quality football. Even more so if those replacement players are associated with NFL teams where loyalty already runs deep. Add in that a massive percentage of core NFL fans would praise the collective decision to tell players to shut up and tackle.

The owners have the resources to win a work stoppage, the question is whether they have the courage.

Blogger jla September 11, 2020 8:24 AM  

All but one Chief stood for the anthem and the Texans stay in the locker room. From what I could tell, the whole booing thing is made up. The crowd said Chiefffffffs like that always do and idiots jumped all over that. The only thing that seemed in your face was the fucking announcers and I guess they did something at halftime but I changed the channel so I don't now how bad it was.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot September 11, 2020 8:34 AM  

They can walk out

And then what?

Blogger Cinco September 11, 2020 8:34 AM  

Meanwhile, MLB sticks it’s head in the sand and inherits the fans. I have already started watching baseball again and it’s great, no attitude, no loud mouths.

Blogger Stilicho September 11, 2020 8:34 AM  

Pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if Disney/ABC/ESPN is hoping to drive viewership as low as possible in the short term in oder to get a better deal for them to broadcast games, etc.

Stupid short term thinking (much of the fan base has been irreparably alienated), but corporate America is distinguished by its penchant for destructive short term thinking.

Blogger JACIII September 11, 2020 8:35 AM  

Divorcing oneself from the enemy's insidious channels of influence into one's own home is both satisfying, and invigorating.

Blogger Balkan Yankee September 11, 2020 8:37 AM  

Play.

We don't care.

Don't play.

We don't care.

Because Leftist taboo code needs to die.

Blogger David-2 September 11, 2020 8:38 AM  

The leagues might not feel the pressure from the fans as imminent. The NFL TV contract doesn't expire until 2022, the NBA's until 2024 (according to Google). That's when the money will change ... if the (former) fans stay away.

Though I know nothing about this sort of thing - maybe the contracts have an early out if ratings fall past a certain threshold?

Blogger Weak September 11, 2020 8:38 AM  

The NFL must know that when people drop one entertainment options for another, they very rarely come back later. A change is made and life goes on. They risk not one bad season of ratings, but losing fans for life.

Blogger Jazzmanblue September 11, 2020 8:41 AM  

I got tired of the league promoting awareness of women's issues (breast cancer) and ignoring men's issues - such as prostate cancer. While that was annoying, the refusal of the league to allow the Cowboys a star on the helmet to honor five dead police officers really got my goat. I stopped watching in 2015 and have not been back. I even stopped playing Fantasy Football, which was difficult at first. Sundays are now my own, and the gym is frequented much more often.

Blogger #7139 September 11, 2020 8:45 AM  

Let the boos howl like a category 5 hurricane. Let the owners tremble in their bunkers at the storm surge of lost revenue!

Blogger Gr8Again September 11, 2020 8:47 AM  

Why is this so difficult for leftists to understand? The players have a right to free speech, but they do not have the right to usurp the platform provided by their employers for their own personal politics.

It would be like if Vince Vaughn showed up on the set of Wedding Crashers wearing an "Abortion is Murder" t-shirt, and demanded that he get to wear that t-shirt during filming. The producers would tell him to piss off.

Blogger Keef September 11, 2020 8:58 AM  

Excellent analysis!

Vox’s chronicling of the SJW convergence has been a years long process and I’m very very here for it!

I didn’t watch a single play last night either. Instead I met up with an old coworker.

It’s almost as though nfl followers have other entertainment options. Hilariously most nfl players do not have other career options.

Blogger Hamilton September 11, 2020 8:58 AM  

I spoke with some of my neighbors last night about the NFL. It was disheartening. They made comments like “have you listened to the Black National Anthem? It’s a great message! It’s not so bad.” Dumbfounded. These were mostly Christian and more “conservative” white people. I’m not sure the ratings will tank that much and if they do, for how long?

Blogger Scott September 11, 2020 9:02 AM  

Much as with other media and escapism, that has been converged. Once the trust is broken, it can never be mended to what it was before.

Blogger Scott September 11, 2020 9:02 AM  

Much as with other media and escapism, that has been converged. Once the trust is broken, it can never be mended to what it was before.

Blogger Scott September 11, 2020 9:02 AM  

Much as with other media and escapism, that has been converged. Once the trust is broken, it can never be mended to what it was before.

Blogger Guy Jean September 11, 2020 9:04 AM  

For comparison, in the UK, a dance group called "Diversity" performed a BLM-themed act on Britain's Got Talent https://youtu.be/kzFNKFitHjw and almost immediately people started complaining https://youtu.be/koD1MDGHedA
Now up to 10,000 https://youtu.be/6VTBnu1kCqk
Coupla typical comments: "A dozen black guys dancing is not "diversity"."That pathetic "act" was one of the most anti white racist attacks I've seen and everyone should complain it was disgraceful from a group who are far from diverse and have become very well off thanks to "white" ppl..."

Blogger Pedro the Cat September 11, 2020 9:04 AM  

In Florio's sick spinning bow tie world, division is unity.

In addition, he has ZERO concerns for the fans, those who actually PAY for this garbage, or more truthfully WON'T pay for this garbage.

Blogger jkmack September 11, 2020 9:07 AM  

The only thing better than boos, would be silence, because there is no crowd to boo.

They could easily have shown unity, by all standing for one American Flag, to one national anthem. A show of unity was not political, it was submission, to a marxist regime.

Blogger Brett baker September 11, 2020 9:09 AM  

People like Florio make the gamma "sportsball" comments almost tolerable. Of course, the gamma aren't gardening, exercising, target shooting, or reading the classics of Western Civilization, so it is annoying.

Blogger GrzyMcKneezy September 11, 2020 9:15 AM  

Everytime I read the phrase call for unity" all I can think of is; "We must join with him Gandalf". When did Saruman the wise abandon reason for madness? Evil is not to be united with it is to be purged.

I think put a fork in the NFL its done, Coronu + SJW double downs is a helluva finishing move.

Blogger Dave September 11, 2020 9:23 AM  

I didn't watch one single moment of the Chiefs-Texans game. I didn't watch a single moment of NFL-related opinion and analysis. I haven't even read the box score or a single article on the actual game itself.

Yep, same here, and my father and brother. Still don't even know the score as of this morning and don't care

Blogger Stilicho September 11, 2020 9:25 AM  

On second thought, Disney/ABC/ESPN has repeatedly demonstrated that it values leftist/woke politics above profit, so that remains the most likely reason for their position

Blogger rognuald September 11, 2020 9:36 AM  

"And what that very public rejection by the fans who haven't walked away from the NFL already says is that they are beginning to understand they are in a war on their culture, their society, and their civilization."

I would also add that we are in a war for our lives. I no longer view a lot of the players in the NFL or NBA as Americans. They're not my people. And, I would pay good money to see a game made up entirely of Americans.

Blogger Rigel Kent September 11, 2020 9:41 AM  

The league needs the fans, the fans don't need the league and these folks are terrified the fans will figure that out.

Blogger RobertDWood September 11, 2020 9:44 AM  

They should have stopped Kaepernick early and every American knew it.

Vox said it right years ago. Sink the ships.
The truth in this statement is obvious, even when it's not about real ships on the waters.

Blogger VFM Bear September 11, 2020 9:47 AM  

What struck me about the video I saw wasn't so much the booing, but the vast emptiness in the stands.

It reminded me of a Joe Biden rally, except not even he gets booed at his own rallies.

Of course all the blaming and shaming of the fans is just going to make things so much better:

"but the solemnity of the moment was ruined by fans booing in the stands"

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-nfl-opener-racial-unity-moment-sees-stadium-erupt-boos

Blogger Unknown September 11, 2020 10:00 AM  

So players have the right to not do their jobs because someone somewhere thinks black people are sometimes treated unfairly.

I am a unionized worker, and work under a contract. I don't think that crap would fly where I work.

Burn the NFL and spoiled baby players. I'll be spending my spare time growing food in the garden, not watching football.

Blogger Barbarossa September 11, 2020 10:00 AM  

What happens is the league will eventually submit to its angry fans

Will it, though? Goodell's salary isn't tied to performance. With the passing of the likes of Lamar Hunt and Ralph Wilson, the owners are typically billionaires with none of the "I helped create this institution" mentality. Any owner who does squawk will undoubtedly get the Donald Sterling treatment with recordings of "problematic statements" coming to light. I fear this SJW infestation may be fatal to the host.

Blogger cecilhenry September 11, 2020 10:07 AM  

IF the league submits to the fans objections after a 50% decline, it won't be the same league it was, and the fans won't forget.

They won't be back-- because these sports leagues don't seem to grasp that viewers interst is based on more than just the skill of the athletes. ITs bigger than the players.

Blogger jijijeac September 11, 2020 10:11 AM  

white people should indefinitely boycott antiwhite orgs. plenty of sports orgs aren't antiwhite. the ufc for example

Blogger Up from the pond September 11, 2020 10:17 AM  

"the league will eventually submit to its angry fans and ban all political expression by the players"

Why?

Blogger SB71 September 11, 2020 10:17 AM  

Lapdog SFW media is out in full force. Insulting the ignorant booing fans for not respecting "Muh unity an sheet"

I emailed the Eagles whom I've rooted for since I was 10. Told them I'm boycotting the team and won't be a fan again until they stop supporting anti American politics AND apologize.

That's the missing ingredient here. Eventually they'll tone it down when the rating crater. Their ticket sales are already in the toilet because of COVID. But after the abusive behavior of pro sports leagues, they owe their fans an apology. SOBs

Blogger xevious2030 September 11, 2020 10:17 AM  

Unity? Ok. We're all George Washington.

Blogger Jordan September 11, 2020 10:18 AM  

Haven't checked to see the score yet. A few hours after waking up I realized "Oh ya, there was a football game on last night." Will wait until Pro-Football-Reference or some other such site not directly connected to NFL.com or ESPN, et al. have the score and stats up.

I definitely want to know whether the condensed games exclude the pre-game (and post-game) shenanigans but regardless, if the on-field propaganda and lies are too blatant then I won't pay up for a months-long subscription after the free trial is over. I can't even remember the last time I did not stay up to watch the entirety of the NFL season opener. 10 years, at least?

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) September 11, 2020 10:20 AM  

Florio
because the players’ power includes boycotting games.


less than 2,000 players in the NFL.

over a hundred million NFL fans.

Mike Florio claims to be a proponent of "muh Dumbocracy".

Blogger Argus Bacchus September 11, 2020 10:25 AM  

Vox mercifully did not provide a link to the heaping pile of SJW excrement that is the remainder of the SI article quoted at the bottom of the post.

For those who didn't want to watch the game last night but couldn't bear the idea of not seeing any bonafide sexually criminal blacks on prime time TV last night, NBC did give them the option of watching stalker and groper Mike Tirico host the network's coverage.

Blogger pyrrhus September 11, 2020 10:26 AM  

Ironic in light of the fact that most communists aren't football fans, nor are most single women...these fools are deliberately targeting their meal tickets.

Blogger basementhomebrewer September 11, 2020 10:26 AM  

So, where are our representatives? They drug baseball organizations in over steroids that ultimately no one really cared about. Why aren't they dragging Goodell in and asking him why he is encouraging shows of support to communist organizations? We all know the answer is Washington doesnt care about us either, but its another point to illustrate to normies.

Blogger Dirtnapninja September 11, 2020 10:27 AM  

Will they ban it? Or will they double and redouble to the point of destruction.

Blogger Mad Dok Rob September 11, 2020 10:27 AM  

Me and my best friend ever since college would always get together and go to the bar and watch the Steelers game. For a decade and a half, every Sunday, go to mass, then go to a bar and watch the game. This continued even after we had families. It was a good male friend tradition.

The protesting crap from the 3 string quarterback started. Then that racist Tomlin had everyone off the field for the Anthem, except for Villenueava (sp) and his giant Ranger balls of Steel. Then they forced him to do his POW blame his country apology. We both just...stopped.

The New England fans around us just don't understand. "Well you boycotting the NFL isn't going to do anything, they don't need you and you are not going to make a difference." I keep trying to tell them, it is not that I am boycotting...I just no longer care. I used to love football, but now it isn't even hate. It is complete indifference. Even if they got rid of all this anti-American stuff, I am not sure that I would come back. I haven't burned my terrible towels or jerseys or any of the stuff my sisters bought me through the years or any crazy things like that. I just don't care anymore.

Until Vox put up this story, I didn't even realize they started playing again. Unfortunately, I fear the NHL will do this to me at some point.

Blogger Nostromo September 11, 2020 10:31 AM  

It's too late. The NFL will struggle along through sheer inertia, and the few diehard dummies like my nieces husband. Apparently Big12 is eager to follow their example, but schools have the advantage of sucking at the taxpayer tit.

They should have fired them all at the first sign of screwing with their bottom line. ThThe

Blogger Delaware Blue Hen September 11, 2020 10:42 AM  

The players have seem to forgotten the old motto about the customer is always right.

Blogger Phelps September 11, 2020 10:47 AM  

If you fire a player, you have thousands of other qualified players ready to suit up and take that spot and that salary.

If you a fan fires you, you are just fired, and you stay fired. Players boycotting is an inconvenience. Fans boycotting is a disaster.

Blogger RB September 11, 2020 10:48 AM  

Anyone remember when Jim McMahon got fined for scribbling on his headbands? How ridiculous does that seem now? It seems unfathomable to me that what has happened over the last year has completely removed the backbones of leaders far and wide.

Blogger Crew September 11, 2020 10:48 AM  

Some of the players have something else as well:

https://www.rt.com/sport/500414-joshua-bellamy-coronavirus-fraud/

No doubt they will be applauded by some of their fans.

Blogger Spike Team Idaho September 11, 2020 10:51 AM  

Next game, swarm them & toss 1/2 containers of milk onto the playing field. Saturate the grid iron with swathes of white milk. Watch how that plays out.

Blogger Stryker4570 September 11, 2020 10:55 AM  

Saw a clip of the Chiefs-Texan game where the crowd was booing the display of 'unity.' The stands were sparsely occupied to say the least. The upper decks were basically empty.

Blogger Parrothead Al September 11, 2020 10:56 AM  

I watched the entire game. I went back to look over the pregame on DVR. You are correct they are trying to have it both ways. They learned a little from the NBA to be more subtle in the actual game. I looked hard to see which thug name or slogan was on the back of helmets. It took until the third quarter to see "Black Lives Matter" on back of Watson's helmet and "Fentanyl" Floyd on Will Fuller. The pregame and commercials were absolutely horrible, if you needed more reasons to hate Google and Walmart, you got them. Not that compelling a game, not a lot of penalties, officiating not too bad. Now you can say Watson is over rated and over paid, Bill O'Brien a mediocre coach, bad GM, and JJ Watt over the hill. Having been a life long Cowboys fan, I may watch them Sunday night as my official last game, the Texans mediocrity not the way to go out.

Blogger Ibelin September 11, 2020 11:00 AM  

These players think that if they all quit there's not 100000 other guys who would jump at the chance to take their spots

Blogger VD September 11, 2020 11:11 AM  

They made comments like “have you listened to the Black National Anthem? It’s a great message! It’s not so bad.”

It is a great message. They are a proud and separate nation. They are not Americans and they readily admit it.

Blogger Reprehensible Adam September 11, 2020 11:21 AM  

Thank God the CFL isn’t playing this year. I wouldn’t watch it if were like the NFL. Covid is a blessing.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 11, 2020 11:26 AM  

This is why you need to disengage IMMEDIATELY at the first sign of SJWs. When the fans ignore this stuff, it sends the NFL the message that this stuff has no costs. That allows the cancer to grow and grow. It would have been easy to crack the whip on one or two SJWs 20 years ago. Now the entire system is loaded with them. Telling the players NO is significantly harder and will cause a ton of short term pain. They have been coddled so long that reining them in will feel like oppression.

There's always high school football, I guess.

Blogger Mast Abeam September 11, 2020 11:27 AM  

HI Vox, out of the morbid curiosity I did watch the opening parts of the game. It was during the commercial breaks of Holey Moley II the sequel on the ABC.

My wife (and I) got hooked on the wide world of sports throwback jackets and unapologetic but deeply ironic and non-pc commentary about why sport is entertainment.

I'll add here that the crowd in the stands looked like any other home Miami Dolphin game over the past two seasons.

Blogger Leatherwing September 11, 2020 11:28 AM  

Also didn't watch any part of the game, don't even know who won the game.

If they want to show a sign of unity, stand, put your hand over your heart and sing the National Anthem like the rest of America.

Blogger tuberman September 11, 2020 11:30 AM  

>> Unity? Ok. We're all George Washington.

Yes, they will see unity, but it won't support their pervert inversions.

Blogger Thad Tuiol September 11, 2020 11:33 AM  

@49 Yes, and yes, it was ridiculous then and seems positively quaint nowadays.

Blogger RJ September 11, 2020 11:34 AM  

For all of the geniuses commenting on the lack of fans in the stands: attendance was limited to 16,000 due to the coronavirus.

@Parrothead Al: apparently you didn't watch BLM Tirico and BLM Dungy's hafltime show. It was a disgrace, and that alone should cost the NFL thousands of fans.

Blogger Parallax September 11, 2020 11:39 AM  

Cancelled NFL. It’s in the trash with Netflix. Culture war, indeed.

Blogger Valar Addemmis September 11, 2020 11:53 AM  

Up from the pond wrote:"the league will eventually submit to its angry fans and ban all political expression by the players"

Why?


Because this was the formula that worked before. Sure, Christians would occasionally get piqued that a religious player had to turn a shirt with a religious motto inside out before going on air, but the league could relatively credibly claim they simply don't let any individual expression that's not sponsored by Brawndo or a competitor. After all, they are businessmen.

I disagree with the feasibility, though, and think the genie's out of the bottle. And they'll never be able to bring themselves to tamp down on picking sides, because they need the media to like them and they don't want to get Sterlinged. Which means the converged leagues will die. Best get comfortable with the idea.


The idea of "Unity" through separate national anthems just shows how midwitted at best the whole thing is.

Blogger DonReynolds September 11, 2020 11:53 AM  

The players are exceptional individuals, without a doubt, and they are told that every day for years, even decades, at a time. Some of them know that the career of a professional athlete is usually a short one, depending on the injuries sustained and the younger competition for their spot on the team.

Perhaps it would be considered bullying if the leagues and the owners were to remind the players of just how many good, better, and best would be delighted to take their place on game day. Jerk your finger from a glass of water and watch how quickly the hole fills in. Yes, they can be replaced with very good and promising players, within the month, and the team scouts probably have a good working list of prospects at the ready. That's right. The players have no monopoly power over the league or the owners, even in unity. Imagine if it were the hawkers in the concession stands making the demands or the parking lot attendants making the demands, or the woke advertisers.

Professional sports is entertainment and it is not the players who are being entertained. The sponsors and advertisers are not there to pitch to the players. Entertainers have an audience and if the players try to queer the deal by pissing off the audience, they are ruining their own sweet deal. The audience does not deal directly with the players. They pay for their ticket and expect a good seat for the next performance....good or bad. Now some of the militant and radical players want to compel the audience into accepting their own plug for radical Leftist politics. Perhaps soon, they will demand the audience do the raised fist in solidarity with the radicals, or sing the black national anthem, or sign loyalty oaths to BLM, or pledge a monthly contribution to the cause. Anything is possible, but I doubt the radical players are even going to be satisfied, no matter what accommodations are made. Can professional sports hope to operate on the woke portion of their audience? That may soon be the only paying audience they have remaining.

Blogger SemiSpook37 September 11, 2020 11:54 AM  

My local teams are the Redskins and Ravens. I grew up as a Steeler fan. Even got the wife to convert her loyalties to the Steelers because of her hatred of the Ravens AND Dan Snyder.

I think the only way I'll be catching up this season is through UrinatingTree's "This Week in Sportsball" updates. I'm also in a fantasy league, and even there the enthusiasm wasn't what it usually was. It was just going through the motions.

Will say it's going to be an interesting season in the area; wonder how the blowback will affect everything.

Blogger Krymneth September 11, 2020 11:54 AM  

Mad Dok Rob wrote:The New England fans around us just don't understand. "Well you boycotting the NFL isn't going to do anything, they don't need you and you are not going to make a difference."

It does matter, and this is why: Neither you nor I are unique. If we are willing to take the steps to boycott the NFL, then we are not alone, and others are joining us and amplifying our efforts.

If we all think this way, then we take effective, collective, decentralized action.

If we all assume that our individual actions are meaningless because they're a drop in the ocean, we are much less likely to take effective collective action, and we're neutered.

It is not sophisticated and wise to believe that since nothing I do matters anyhow, I might as well keep giving the NFL money. It is being neutered in the fight.

What you do does matter. Take the action. Stop giving the NFL money. No, the NFL doesn't have a line item in their budget for Krymneth's contributions to their cause specifically, and they aren't going to go "Oh, no! Krymneth is no longer watching us! Quick, cut all the leftism out!" But they will notice all the people taking the effective, collective, decentralized action. Even if it's a price they're willing to pay, it is still to our advantage to make them pay it; it is nothing but loss for our side for them to destroy our sports for free.

Blogger tuberman September 11, 2020 11:54 AM  

8. Stilicho

>> Pure speculation on my part, but I wonder if Disney/ABC/ESPN is hoping to drive viewership as low as possible in the short term in oder to get a better deal for them to broadcast games, etc.

No, long-term they want the league gone. This stuff is all-in.

I can understand that the thugs are stupid, and the owners are puppets under marching orders and have to do what they are told. Not all the players are thugs, but they will be singled out and attacked to the point of destruction...Drew Brees was the example clearly focused. He had to buckle, or loose everything, for his final years in the NFL.

The (((Tribe))) obviously is going to destroy the NFL, as it's been a symbol of masculine nature they can't stand. Understand, this is where it's going, yet it won't come out the way the (((Tribe))) hopes. They will celebrate the fall of pro sports as a win. It won't win anything for them, as they will just lose another tool.

Blogger SmokeyJoe September 11, 2020 11:59 AM  

Very soon, a lot of people are going to find out that access to "white" people is a privilege not a right.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan September 11, 2020 12:01 PM  

What a way to ruin the Mahomes meal ticket, good job NFL. Talent out the wazoo, great attitude but instead focus on a people whose manners and attitude literally scare the crap out of the usual white liberal, morons.

I vote for the sentiment in comment #54, not my people not my problems.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( if you don't want to Racist, you must confess: Islam is right about the Jews ) September 11, 2020 12:14 PM  

in other pathological sports news, Nascar has indefinitely suspended Mike Wallace ( not very talented brother of Rusty and Kenny, only 4 wins in the Busch series in 497 starts ) for posting Hate Facts on social media
...
being as this is Current Year, that is to say that he was posting actual History.

https://twitter.com/_grosssssssss/status/1304174927784882181

Blogger tdcommenter September 11, 2020 12:32 PM  

When I read this today, my first thought was "There was a game?"

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia September 11, 2020 12:37 PM  

Hamilton wrote:I spoke with some of my neighbors last night about the NFL. It was disheartening. They made comments like “have you listened to the Black National Anthem? It’s a great message! It’s not so bad.” Dumbfounded. These were mostly Christian and more “conservative” white people. I’m not sure the ratings will tank that much and if they do, for how long?

Right -- you have identified the REAL problem.

It's not just that there's this rabid vocal segment that truly believes the horseshit...gender fluidity, the pronoun crap, that it's great to Burn, Loot, and Make Mayhem...it's that the normies, the otherwise pretty nice people, who just say to themselves...

"You know, it's not THAT bad…and there may be some good in this."

These are the people who really want to believe Negro Lives Matter, and that it was just awful that George Floyd was "murdered," and think that putting out lawn signs that Negro Lives Matter is the "right" thing to do.

They just don’t want to be on what they think is the “wrong” side.

Though if you got them seriously inebriated, they might confess that the sign on the lawn is really a witch doctor's talisman, designed to ward off the demons should they show up in their nice clean neighborhoods where the kids rid their bikes and people like to grill in the summer.

Which demons can…in places like Kenosha.

Kenosha?? Holy shit.

Civilization may turn on the attitudes of these people…and the prospects do not look good.

Blogger Harris September 11, 2020 12:38 PM  

According to Jason Whitlock at "Outkick the Coverage," some players are starting to wake up to the toxicity of BLM. Apparently, the Miami Dolphins, led by their African-American coach issue a video statement decrying the emptiness of gestures, and are not participating in either the supposed Black National Anthem or the National Anthem. I would prefer they participate and stand in honor of the National Anthem. But to do that, then they would also be participating the shameful promotion of the fake "Black National Anthem."

This may not be the ideal response, but at least some of the athletes are starting to understand the divisiveness being promoted under BLM is not helpful or productive, and are refusing to be made pawns of BLM and the NFL's promotion of the same.

At least that is my optimistic interpretation of this article: (If I'm wrong, so be it, but I prefer to keep as optimistic outlook as possible)

https://www.outkick.com/chiefs-fans-smart-to-boo-texans-and-dolphins-smart-to-disavow-empty-blm-gestures/

Blogger Alexamenos September 11, 2020 12:44 PM  

"The fans understand perfectly well that the "expression of unity" was just another lie..."

The 'it's an expression of unity' is an infuriatingly mendacious lie. They take the opportunity during the singing of the national anthem -- that moment when we all stand together and express our unity -- to put on an audacious show of disunity, and then they have the nerve to ask, 'what is it about this display of unity that makes you uncomfortable.'

It's like they're pissing down your back while lambasting you for not appreciating the rain.





Blogger Crew September 11, 2020 12:50 PM  

It is a great message. They are a proud and separate nation.

They should take themselves back to Africa and create Wakanda ...

Blogger Harris September 11, 2020 12:57 PM  

Until I read the headlines this morning, I didn't even remember the NFL had a game last night. I tuned out in 2016, after my team, the Dallas Cowboys, kneeled en masse at their game against the Cardinals. That ended it for me - after 20 years of playing fantasy football, and writing numerous articles over the years on draft prospect analyses, and developing my own statistical model to rank teams during the season. I stopped all of it in 2016.

Blogger JohnR219 September 11, 2020 1:08 PM  

Watch the video. More virtue signaling. They are not starting to understand.

Blogger Stilicho September 11, 2020 1:13 PM  

Your neighborhood sucks

Blogger Valar Addemmis September 11, 2020 1:14 PM  

KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia wrote:Though if you got them seriously inebriated, they might confess that the sign on the lawn is really a witch doctor's talisman, designed to ward off the demons should they show up in their nice clean neighborhoods where the kids rid their bikes and people like to grill in the summer.

They might as well be putting up signs that, as Vaclav Havel wrote, say "Workers of the World, unite!" but really mean "I am afraid and therefore unquestioningly obedient." There is nothing new under the sun, especially when people go right back to the Marxist well.

https://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/165havel.html

Blogger RedJack September 11, 2020 1:21 PM  

People are addicted to it. Hell I wanted to watch.

But I didn't. Packing away the football stuff. Will put it in closet with other memories.

I did have one boomer try to shame me for being offended. He said that the company politics should not have any effect on your purchases or you are short minded. I told him I have ended capital purchases because the sales team made me listen to some pc claptrap.

Of note, the boomer was a Christian author and supposedly conservative.

Blogger RedJack September 11, 2020 1:25 PM  

Having been in union negotiations, I have seen this first hand. Told the union steward "We make a commodity. The customer will go somewhere else and never come back if there is a strike."

Union struck, plant and business closed. The customers moved in and didn't even notice

Blogger phil g September 11, 2020 1:27 PM  

Gave up ESPN and all pregame shows years ago. Weened off of NFL over past few years. Did not watch last night and had zero desire to even peak at it. My 70 yr old neighbor and life long Vikings fan is done as well and he's a former coach and sports junky.

Blogger RedJack September 11, 2020 1:31 PM  

Telling the players NO is significantly harder and will cause a ton of short term pain. They have been coddled so long that reining them in will feel like oppression

Having hired and fired more than a few semi pro basketball and baseball players, I no longer make the attempt unless they have a steady post sport work history. Having an operator through a history fit because we didn't stock the right kind of bannas in the vending machine was the kicker.

Blogger RB September 11, 2020 1:53 PM  

@57 - Is there any guarantee the high schools won't start pulling this crap as well?

I have a book written by Dungy. Hello garbage can..

Blogger Manuel September 11, 2020 2:21 PM  

Sports media is even dumber than mainstream media. Triple the ignorance and about 50 times the lack of reading comprehension.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 11, 2020 2:23 PM  

"It made no sense to boo. It wasn’t political in any way."

Do they expect anyone to buy this? FFS, the "protesting" players and those like Florio who run interference for them spend the other half of their time bashing Trump and stumping for the left-wing cause of the day. It couldn't be more political if they formed the Kneeling Athletes Party and got bumper stickers made up.

On the other hand, if it's not political, then it's not political to boo it. Either the personal is the political or it isn't.

Blogger RC September 11, 2020 2:27 PM  

1. Mahomes surprised me with the claptrap. He should take Michael Jordan's advice.
2. Andy Reid looked comical with the face shield that resembled a motorcycle windshield. He needed a defroster.
3. I thought Dungy had more sense.
4. Collinsworth was foolish with his comments.
5. Not sure why any fans were there but glad they booed at the Unity fiasco.

It's astonishing what people are willing to throw away to signal their virtue.

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 11, 2020 2:34 PM  

Will they ban it? Or will they double and redouble to the point of destruction.

What's the Third Law of SJW's again? "They usually double-down until it hits them in the pocketbook"? No, that doesn't seem right...

Blogger Damelon Brinn September 11, 2020 2:46 PM  

It is a great message. They are a proud and separate nation.

Yes. I support any Black National Anthem for the same reason I was a big fan of the CHAZ. Let them proudly declare their real nationality and loyalties, loudly where no one can miss it. Let's get past the pretty lie that we all live together in one shared culture, or even that they would want to.

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia September 11, 2020 2:57 PM  

Valar Addemmis wrote:KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia wrote:Though if you got them seriously inebriated, they might confess that the sign on the lawn is really a witch doctor's talisman, designed to ward off the demons should they show up in their nice clean neighborhoods where the kids rid their bikes and people like to grill in the summer.

They might as well be putting up signs that, as Vaclav Havel wrote, say "Workers of the World, unite!" but really mean "I am afraid and therefore unquestioningly obedient." There is nothing new under the sun, especially when people go right back to the Marxist well.

https://history.hanover.edu/courses/excerpts/165havel.html


Right.

Then again, Havel found out that freedom was messy -- though obviously a much more tolerable messiness than iron fist totalitarianism. You can take the boy out of the collective, but you can't take the collectivist out of the boy,

Being a dissident, actually, is a lot easier, counter-intuitively, that being a leader. I bet when he looked back at it, he absolutely hated sitting ont op of a political pyramid.

The GE on the other hand loves being a leader.

Anonymous Anonymous September 11, 2020 3:29 PM  

Considering the country is going down the path of retardation, I'd recommend for one's own safety to avoid attending the sportsball if the stadiums ever start refilling on a regular basis, unless you have some planned and organized psyop or political action prepared. I recall back in the Color Revolution days of Egypt, the wildly powerless peasantry had their active energies focused by the powers-that-be into the soccer stadiums and like gladiator days, they had certain teams and certain symbols being the champion for this or that political cause. If their team was losing, the common man would, by design, see it as their only opportunity to enact their will in the world being taken away from them, their civilization dying in front of their eyes. So naturally the regularly occurring mass stampedes and murders that would erupt at a stupid f'in soccer game suddenly made more sense in that context. It was far less English green street hooligans and far more a deliberate act of political actors. It's not that they were savages that had a massive freak out over a useless soccer game (though being intensely emotional and eruptive in general is a very Egyptian trait and they definitely have their savage streak)- it was the design of the deeply westernized ruling class to make the game itself a giant psyop to terrorize and control the populace. If things seem to keep devolving, I expect similar things to start occurring by political design in our football stadiums and so on, though perhaps not as bad. These are the days of Nero, Caligula, Commodus, and Eliogabalus. The Emperor is in the Coliseum.

Blogger Major Styles September 11, 2020 4:02 PM  

"Very soon, a lot of people are going to find out that access to "white" people is a privilege not a right."

THIS. 90% of Africans want to get the fuck off their continent and hightail it for Europe: weathering a stormy sea if need be. Blacks in Latin America want to get to USA...and not the Chicage ghetto, but the white enclaves. Everywhere you look, blacks are trying to run away from other blacks. But they dare not go to Arab lands or Asia, where they realize that they are hated.

Blacks are burning down the house of the only hospitable neighbor they have - white people. Granted, most their movement does not really belong to them, but instead belongs to (((them))). But either way...tough shit, This is a culture war and the white people not willing to wake up deserve the fate that will befall them.

Blogger Doktor Jeep September 11, 2020 4:06 PM  

NFL and my car. Verse 3. Demographic notes.
The one thing good to me about football was that it cleared the road of morons. I don't have some Camaro or Mustang, I have something that any accident would means months of metal fabrication.
But this is not bad news to me. People I find tend to handle their car the same way they think. I finally realized this during the covid lockdowns. I had my special permissions to be on the road and it gave me a flashback to 1987.
A time when I liked to drive.
The time before the feckless boomers got even older, slower, and exponentially more feckless.
A time before every third worlder and his brother showed up and started showing us why the third world.
And ultimately along the context of the NFL convergence, before everybody darker than Vin Diesel took the angry brown victim pull.
They all drive like they think. Tjat one time they were off the road was the only time in 30 years a short drive didn't feel like an aerial dogfight.

All of these people are going to be more than happy to stay home and watch their NFL. Maybe more so than before. Heck even SJWs who saw football as toxic ball-having might go out of their way to watch.
They and their shitty attitudes won't be on the road. They will be watching their football.

And it will be learned the hard way, by the NFL, where all their money was really coming from. We know who the NFL is really attacking. And knowing who they are attacking, they are likely to solve their problem by picking up a ball and spending time with their own kids. Or generally find something constructive to do as such people who build civilizations have a penchant for. Imagine if the Colliseum of Rome had gone woke like this and put a damper on the bread and circus. Might have even saved them.

See you all in the briar patch.

Blogger Sheila4g September 11, 2020 4:11 PM  

@17 Hamilton: "They made comments like “have you listened to the Black National Anthem? It’s a great message! It’s not so bad.” Dumbfounded. These were mostly Christian and more “conservative” white people."

I made a comment to that effect weeks ago (here, I believe), predicting that your TruCons and Churchians would absolutely take to the 'unity' presentation and black anthem (an old hymn, if memory serves). Like E. Michael Jones, they insist religion alone is the metric by which to define a 'nation,' and thus eagerly await Nigerian Christians to revive America. I'm a Christian, and I despise the mealy-mouthed 'nice' and 'safe' simulacrum of Jesus they claim to follow.

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 11, 2020 4:42 PM  

RC wrote:It's astonishing what people are willing to throw away to signal their virtue.

You're assuming they are merely virtue signalling.

Krymneth wrote:It does matter, and this is why: Neither you nor I are unique. If we are willing to take the steps to boycott the NFL, then we are not alone, and others are joining us and amplifying our efforts.

Either most people agree with the SJWs or are too afraid to show any opposition. I really don't know which is worse.

But for me, the NFL was lost a long time ago. They used to get their players from the colleges to keep out the riffraff and they all had all kinds of clauses in their contracts for their behavior.
So the colleges started making all kinds of exceptions for black athletes. They even invented entire departments to make sure blacks could get in and pass. Fake classes, fake grades and fake degrees.

I used to love pro-sports. Some of my earliest memories are watching pro sports and playing sports. They have turned it into a clownshow.

Blogger Dan in Georgia September 11, 2020 4:59 PM  

JJ Watts seemed to think they were booing. Quit lying to yourself. The fans were booing. Loudly.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey September 11, 2020 5:14 PM  

Barbarossa wrote:What happens is the league will eventually submit to its angry fans

Will it, though? Goodell's salary isn't tied to performance. With the passing of the likes of Lamar Hunt and Ralph Wilson, the owners are typically billionaires with none of the "I helped create this institution" mentality. Any owner who does squawk will undoubtedly get the Donald Sterling treatment with recordings of "problematic statements" coming to light. I fear this SJW infestation may be fatal to the host.


Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder were the two owners who protested the wokeness the most. In 2017 rumors were swirling that the league was very close to taking the Dallas Cowboys away from Jones because of this. Then a panicked Jerry Jones hit the field with the boys and took a knee.

Dan Snyder is now reeling as the Redskins organization has been shattered. Rumors were that he finally caved on the name change basically thanks to blackmail -- that the organization would be scrutinized for #MeToo and various outrages unless he fell in line. He caved, and then the WaPo exposed the team anyway. (Not only do you never apologize to the SJWs, you also never make a deal). It's an organization in uproar with dizzying rounds of resignations and retirements of long-time Redskin people. Many of the minor partners are looking to sell.

The SJWs got into the owners' clubhouse. They won't stop until they are forced or until destruction of the league.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot September 11, 2020 5:16 PM  

The players are exceptional individuals, without a doubt

Exceptional athletes perhaps, but because of the exact scenario you describe, many are deficient human beings, overgrown coddled children who break down in one way or another whenever they receive a firm "No".

Blogger Boaty Bear September 11, 2020 6:00 PM  

This may or may not be relevant?

In 2008 I employed a young Kurdish Syrian refugee in Cyprus, a welder, I paid him good money to do a serious job(he wasn't allowed to earn) and he did a very good job, am still using the boat today.

Told me he went to a football match, in a stadium, got rounded up by authorities and didn't see his mother for 18 months!


At this point he had converted to Christianity and told me "Mohammed is a bad man, I love Jesus" last I knew of him he'd married a girl from Church and moved to the States.

He was a good kid, I hope he is well.

Blogger James Dixon September 11, 2020 7:12 PM  

> They can walk out.

There are roughly 100 division one college football teams, each of whom graduates roughly 20 players/year, so 2000 players/year. 55 players x 32 teams = 1760 players. They can all be replaced, easily. The quality of play would suffer, but fans would put up with it to have players they can celebrate again.

> Though I know nothing about this sort of thing - maybe the contracts have an early out if ratings fall past a certain threshold?

That's a given.

> Anyone remember when Jim McMahon got fined for scribbling on his headbands?

That was when the league had a real commissioner.

Blogger MacD September 11, 2020 8:06 PM  

Boomers gotta boom...

Blogger tublecane September 11, 2020 8:44 PM  

Does anyone on Earth know what an “expression of unity” is, if not a political expression of oneness with blackity-blackblack.

Blogger The CronoLink September 11, 2020 9:06 PM  

Oh my God, I just realized: remember those "Gamers are dead" articles during gamergate? This is stinks reeeeaaally similar.
But hey! Credit where credit is due, Florio was smart enough not to title his article "Sports fans are dead and don't need to be your audience."

Blogger Heath D September 11, 2020 9:42 PM  

The current owner of the Chefs is one of the primary members who has been pushing playng games outside of the United States. Sounds pretty globalist to me

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel September 11, 2020 10:30 PM  

Guess we know why Okafor has a beef with the blue.

https://www.statesman.com/NEWS/20160924/Alex-Okafor-tackled-by-three-Austin-police-officers-before-arrest

Blogger Tars Tarkas September 11, 2020 10:59 PM  

Boaty Bear wrote:In 2008 I employed a young Kurdish Syrian refugee in Cyprus, a welder, I paid him good money to do a serious job(he wasn't allowed to earn) and he did a very good job, am still using the boat today.



Heaven forbid you paid a Cypriot!

Boaty Bear wrote:At this point he had converted to Christianity and told me "Mohammed is a bad man, I love Jesus" last I knew of him he'd married a girl from Church and moved to the States.

He was a good kid, I hope he is well.

Oh, great. When are people going to learn?
How this a good outcome? It is a terrible outcome. The good outcome is that he went the hell back to Syria and met a woman THERE!

You'll pay good money to a friggin foreigner and then wish him well as joins the invasion force. WTF?

Blogger JamesB.BKK September 12, 2020 1:08 AM  

Is it a natural and inevitable result of billionaire owners and millionaire employees whose infrastructure is financed with bonds issued by city and county officials on promises to steer sluices of cash often coercively to debt service? Probably. Fire them all.

Blogger Scuzzaman September 12, 2020 1:43 AM  

It’s an intelligence test for sports franchises.

Who has more power; the people who pay, or the people who get paid?

Duh.

Blogger Scuzzaman September 12, 2020 2:10 AM  

Not to mention falling for the fake conversion story. Know your enemy; Islam holds that it’s not a sin for him to lie to an infidel like you.

Blogger VD September 12, 2020 1:10 PM  

He was a good kid, I hope he is well.

I hope he goes back. It never ceases to amaze me to see how many people think they're on our side when they clearly are not.

Blogger MaskettaMan September 13, 2020 3:07 PM  

>Told me he went to a football match, in a stadium, got rounded up by authorities and didn't see his mother for 18 months!

a. You believed him? b. You cared about him not being able to see his mommy?

Hate to break it to you, but you're a rube.

Blogger Mabuti September 13, 2020 10:35 PM  

Where I live we have Aussie Rules Football on TV in the evenings. NFL free for years now. Find another hobby or sport and you will be much happier.

Blogger tdcommenter September 14, 2020 1:03 PM  

About 4 years Drudge Report is down 53% from peak. Vox Day was right again.

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/mattcastrophe-drudge-report-internet-traffic-down-53-from-peak-in-2016/

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