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Thursday, October 01, 2020

The charade of "success"

Anonymous Conservative reminds us that most of what passes for "success" in modern American society is entirely manufactured and most claims to it being based on "talent" and "hard work" are entirely false.

Joe Biden forgets his line, and a reporter jumps in to help him remember it. All those reporter positions are remarkably important in so many ways. Now, I almost think it funny that if you had asked me as a kid, “Could you grow up to be a reporter if you wanted?” I would have replied, “This is America, I can grow up to be anything if I put in the effort.” And I would have thought that becoming a reporter was half-assing it, and it would have been impossible to fail. 

In truth, there were a lot of doors which were always closed, because there was a giant secret out there which the conspiracy needed to hide. Utility line worker, data-processor or IT guy, especially in certain banks, hotel/motel owner in areas of importance, taxi drivers, reporters, celebrities of all stripes, scientific researchers in certain fields, lawyers, prosecutors and politicians at all levels, CIA Officers, and a ton of other positions were for club members only, or people the club felt they could control. I will bet if you tried to be a bum loitering on certain street corners, you’d get chased off, and think it was just another bum chasing you off. Or you’d have a job fall in your lap and think it good luck, instead of the reality that was a vital posted surveillance position, and the bum there needed to be (((their))) bum. 

I always thought it bizarre Erik Prince walked into the CIA, fresh out of the Navy SEALs, heir to a billionaire fortune, as comfortable in a high-society soiree at a five-star restaurant as he would be hip deep in mud somewhere getting shot at, high IQ and full of piss and vinegar, and CIA told him he didn’t have what it took. The guy who built an entire shadow CIA/Pentagon from scratch all on his own, tearing shit up across the entire globe, maybe with a hand in tearing down the Cabal, didn’t have what it took to be a case officer, or a paramilitary? 

All throughout the country, people were moving into their final positions in life, doors opening, others closing due to the vagaries of fate (or so they thought), blind to a machine that was all around them, amassing files on them from the time they were children with reports from the other little kids in the school around them, watching them, looking to compromise them, and having failed, expending its effort thwarting them or moving them somewhere else. 

How many good young kids, filled with ability, effort, and determination, had a dream like being an actor, or a writer, or a reporter, and they ended up expending their entire life on the dream, betting everything on themselves, and died baffled at how they ended up failing while surrounded by untalented rubes who soared?  

Amy Schumer wasn't paid $13 million for a single comedy special because she is funny or because she sells massive quantities of tickets to her shows. Megan Markle wasn't paid $145 million to produce documentaries because she has an amazing production record or even because anyone will watch them. Obama hasn't even begun writing the book for which he was paid a $65 million advance and he will probably never write it. Tom Preston wasn't paid $100 million for making MySpace a lasting corporate success. Marc Racicot wasn't made Chairman of the Republican National Committee or the Governor of Montana because he was such a staunch Republican or particularly adept at managing political operations.

On a much smaller scale, John Scalzi wasn't paid $250,000 per book by Tor Books because Tor expects to make at least $10 million of profit on the deal. These are all people who are owned by the Prometheans, who have sold their souls for what passes for "success" and who will dutifully say whatever they are told to say and produce whatever they are told to produce. And in most cases, it's not even necessary to tell them anything at all, as they were selected and propped up and promoted because they are naturally inclined to do their masters' bidding.

Years ago, I was told by the editor of the editorial page for the St. Paul Pioneer Press that I would NEVER be permitted to have a regular column on the op/ed page. I applied for the slot after the token conservative left the paper, thinking that because I was a) already a popular weekly columnist on the Technology page, b) a local who grew up in a St. Paul suburb, and, c) only the sixth columnist in the 150-year history of the paper to be nationally syndicated, I was an obvious shoe-in for the job. 

I wrote three sample columns, which the editor freely admitted were of sufficient quality to appear on the page. But he made it clear that I would not be given the slot, not then and not in the future. At the time, I thought this was because my libertarianism was simply too intense for the paper. But now I understand that I had bumped up against the ceiling of what had been deemed my permissible level of success. After all, put a bright young, nationally-syndicated writer on the editorial page at the age of 25, he's probably the obvious candidate for op/ed editor within a decade. And who knows where he might go after that? Best to shunt him off the track at the start. I didn't mind then and I don't mind now. I was still able to go off and do what I really wanted to do, which was to make computer games with my friends. But the situation always struck me as a little bit strange and somewhat inexplicable.

The vacant slot was instead given to DJ Tice, a nominal conservative who left the paper in 2003 to become the Government and Politics team leader at the Star Tribune and now plays the role of house conservative as the Commentary editor there. Are you even remotely surprised to learn that Tice is now anti-Trump and last year described Robert Mueller as "evidence of what truly makes America great"?

Talent will always find a way to some level of success, but it can be prevented from finding its way to the positions that are deemed strategically important. That's why they hate and fear Donald Trump. As a rich, playboy developer, he's essentially harmless to them. As President of the United States of America, not so much.

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Blogger John Rockwell October 01, 2020 8:03 AM  

They are the Judas who take the 30 pieces of silver. The price of a Slave.

They exchange the Eternal, Infinite Reward for the pittance of Earthly Delights.

How foolish.

Blogger A rebel without a General October 01, 2020 8:05 AM  

Everything is fake in this country.

Blogger Pratisara October 01, 2020 8:11 AM  

In short, there is a caste system everywhere. There always was.

Blogger crescent wrench October 01, 2020 8:19 AM  

A rebel without a General wrote:Everything is fake in this country.

Almost everything that breaks 6 figures is fake.
The rest are real: the average dude feeding his family and working to secure his future, racing against forces that seek to force him to rent what his progenitors once owned.

As an aside: It's clear the "founder class" of big tech were always owned assets, but I've watched this iron curtain fall to the middle-management level across the sector from 2011 forward. Competence and ethics are exclusion criteria.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( The first rule of Dunning-Kruger Club is that she don't know she's in Dunning-Kruger Club ) October 01, 2020 8:22 AM  

ever since my first aptitude test, the public school system was putting me in "Gifted" programs.

yet, when i got my first career recommendations from my Guidance Counselor ( something like 3rd grade ), the top recommendation was that i should be a barber / hair dresser.

because America needs +120iq fags for hags?

that never did make any sense to me, even as a child. but it does conform perfectly to the Gifted Program not being anything but a glorified Study Hall where i was never provided particular instruction in ANYTHING nor access to guidance in any skilled art or technology.

now it does.

Blogger rikjames.313 October 01, 2020 8:32 AM  

I posted about this before here. I went to law school many years ago, not one of the top 3, but highly rated.

About 1/2 of the students just sort of slid into jobs at the feds, Wall Street firms, top 10 law. The rest of us scrambled and ended up at regionals or lower.

The things that stuck out the most was the phone calls. The student would talk to their father or uncle, and like magic an offer would come.

I was friends with a woman who wanted to work at the Pentagon. A summer clerkship opened just for her, she did the summer, came back to school and after talking it out with us she decided she really wanted a job at the US Trade Representative instead. Called her uncle, a few weeks later she got her offer letter for the trade rep.

Then the democratic emails got leaked, and I see the only thing that changed was they use email, now.

Blogger Johnny October 01, 2020 8:35 AM  

I am reminded of Richard Nixon and his career. From California, he went to Duke Law, and after he graduated, tried to get into one of the high status law firms in New York. In his opinion he was shut out because he wasn't part of what he later called the Harvard Establishment. That is why he went back to California and went into politics. He saw himself as limited in his chosen career in law.

Could be inherent personality also, but the feeling of exclusion was surely at least part of why his politics was relatively ruthless, and why he always thought of himself as somewhat of an outsider to the Washington establishment.

The rule in traditional Americana was that it was ordinarily possible with effort to move up one station in the social hierarchy during a lifetime. That was better than other countries where most people were locked in place.

Blogger Jake October 01, 2020 8:40 AM  

What Anon Con writes is truer than people can imagine. Vox can imagine it, because he hit it.
I hit it. I was in grad school in a highly elite program. I wrote a little essay that appeared on LewRockwell's site against the Iraq war. Soon, I had a fellowship magically "disappear." I managed to make veiled legal threats and it reappeared, but my career in academia was over. And the man behind it was a known neocon. Ah well. Our lives can still have immense meaning being part of the struggle against evil, and serving God, and loving our families and friends.

Blogger Dark Herald October 01, 2020 8:42 AM  

I left the Marine Corps short of retirement when I found out that I would get one more courtesy promotion and that would be it. Someone who was "read in" made it crystal clear to me that, that was hand I had been dealt awhile back in my career.

I suspect everyone here has a similar story

Blogger Sargent.matrim October 01, 2020 8:51 AM  

I see this at work in the church denomination I am apart of. They carefully select their next generation of leaders, and talent is not really a big indicator. Institutional agreeableness yes, talent is optional.

Blogger Parallax October 01, 2020 8:52 AM  

I know Tesla has his opinion.

Anonymous Anonymous October 01, 2020 8:53 AM  

A rebel without a General wrote:Everything is fake in this country.

Possibly.

But there's nothing new under the sun. As others have already noted, it's always been this way. The Prometheans tell you that you should crave their definition of success precisely so you will waste your life chasing it. Even if you catch it you have still wasted your life.

What does it profit a man to gain the whole world and lose his own soul?

By all means define success for yourself (although I'd recommend taking God's definition) but before you do that consider what is valuable, permanent, and worthy? I would say we cannot really have a correct definition of success until we have a correct understanding of these things.

Blogger Ransom Smith October 01, 2020 8:58 AM  

It's worse than the days of royalty being gifted positions of power and prestige.
At least they still had to lead troops and risk themselves.
Though that day is once again approaching. At rapid pace.

Blogger Blue and Gold Bear October 01, 2020 8:58 AM  

If you read his bio, it’s immediately obvious that Erik Prince can’t be controlled.

Anonymous Anonymous October 01, 2020 8:59 AM  

Note to Gammas: This is not why you fail. Vox is talking about talented people who get shafted.

This reminds me of the process for job applications that I've encountered before while within the system. A place I worked had to advertise any position that became available even though they mostly would fill from within. So they would put multiple people through interviews that weren't going to go anywhere which I found really unfair. On the plus side, really good candidates might still be remembered and given something if an opening came but the lack of transparency bothered me.

This sounds like what it could be like on a wider level in society.

Personally, I'd rather be a peasant and know it than live with the illusion I could go higher.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 9:05 AM  

@7 Johnny: Another reason for exclusion was his being a Quaker; it's been said he was "hired to end the Vietnam War and discarded after that." But the choices he made in the Cold War starting in the late 1940s required ruthlessness to fight the Communists who'd infiltrated US government and society. He earned serious enmity from them in HUAC for example, he kept alive Whittaker Chambers' initial claims again Alger Hiss by that and a sharp lawyer's mind.

Blogger RandyB October 01, 2020 9:07 AM  

Yes, we do. Even if the details are fuzzy, and we can't point to the exact moment where we were turned aside, we see the results.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 9:20 AM  

A lot of this doesn't require the grand and impossible conspiracy AC believes in (he cannot explain how authors like Peter Schweizer get published by the Big 5, or while I didn't debate him on this, why publishers like Regnery are still allowed, albeit with this author of 2016 "The Flight 93 Election" earning this year a serious death threat if our side loses the election.

A lot was made inevitable by our immigration policies that allowed in floods of clannish peoples from outside the Hajnal line starting with the Irish. Nixon started his career as several of those tribes were decisively gaining control of the country before WWII.

Blogger Aeroschmidt October 01, 2020 9:25 AM  

Who you know is important, always has been.

That slot on WND was much more valuable.

Blogger FallofthaEmpire October 01, 2020 9:25 AM  

Taking the ticket is such a soul-eating experience that only works to more expeditiously decay the fabric of a persons being. Just look at that old, retarded gremlin GRRM. What an absolutely corroded soul.

Blogger RobertDWood October 01, 2020 9:38 AM  

This is informative, thank you.

Big bear is right. Grow a garden and get some goats.

Blogger Freeholder October 01, 2020 9:41 AM  

I suspect it has happened to me. It would explain a lot. The 6 figures comment is almost exactly when the door slammed shut for me.

Blogger MATT October 01, 2020 9:42 AM  

Whats real is dirt and stone.
Keep your tech soyboy fake billionaires.
Tony Beets is my spirit animal

Blogger drsmith48167 October 01, 2020 9:43 AM  

Cox is likely correct about POTUS. That being said, this time around I can’t help that maybe Trump was put where he is now on purpose, as well.

After all, the last two elections most of the left act as if they were cartoon or movie villains, that is how much over the top. Like they are all Dr. Claw saying “...next time Trump, next time!!!!!”

Sometimes it just seems all too convenient, too arranged.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 01, 2020 9:50 AM  

My father spent a lot of his early life trying to become a priest in the Episcopal Church. This was back in the 80s. He was (and still is) a very faithful man and he believed this to be his calling. He had the wisdom, the drive, and the knowledge to fulfill that role.

But he was rejected by the Bishop at the time. Looking back, it's pretty clear to see why. However, he suffered from serious depression issues for most of his life following this.

Personally, I've always said that if I ever decide to become a priest, I'd do so out of spite.

Blogger Dark Herald October 01, 2020 9:50 AM  

You can tell when the Prometheans find someone worthy.

Back when Obama was the President of Harvard Law and that was his only achievement in life. He got a completely unasked for $100,000 advance to write a biography.

Just out of the blue that contract from one of the most brutal industries in the world, landed in his lap. Most writers have to root, hog or die just to get a measly $5,000 advance for a first book.

There was no way in hell that that publishing company thought for a second that Obama was going to earn back that advance.

But then, that wasn't what that money was for, was it?

Blogger thethirdcoast October 01, 2020 9:51 AM  

Crescent-

There is an enormous percentage of corporate jobs that are nothing more than paper pushing BS. They are the office equivalent of one team that digs the holes and the other team that fills them in.

Rinse and repeat ad infinitum.

Blogger Jose Miguel October 01, 2020 9:54 AM  

I'm at the point where I believe that there was more upward social mobility in the Spanish Empire than there was in 20th & 21st century America. My goal remains the same, a few acres in an area I had ancestors live with no debt.

Blogger VFM Bear October 01, 2020 9:54 AM  

Well, this would certainly help explain my newest boss.

Blogger thethirdcoast October 01, 2020 9:54 AM  

Cataline-

My story is similar in the corporate world.

I was limited when it became clear to my superiors that I wasn't going to work 80 hour weeks forever to make other people rich or bow and scrape before company legends and set my own worthwhile ideas aside.

Blogger Naaaaaaaah I'm Good October 01, 2020 10:03 AM  

I've missed out on several positions as well, despite having education and experience out the yin-yang.

But I know why. And they know why.

We obviously can't have a knowledgeable, charming, charismatic, commanding White Man in charge even half the time because tyranny and feelings.

Blogger Doktor Jeep October 01, 2020 10:03 AM  

In high school the English teacher liked my prose or something. Told me to write for the school paper. I was then as independent a thinker as I am now.
So I go to the office and find that the teacher in charge was one of the crotchety old liberal types that gave off strange vibes.
The other students hanging around in there, as if they were on a break even, were all having two things in conmon:
Dyed hair
Jews
I showed up. Told Odd Liberal Teacher why I was there. Got ignored like a ghost for five minutes. Shrugged and moved on.
Yes, it was intentional. BTW there was an old Rockford Files episode where they addressed the potential threat of "data collection". That was the early 70's.

Blogger Matthew October 01, 2020 10:04 AM  

It really makes Trump all the more fascinating. With all of the powr ans might that the demon-ocracy of United States society thrown against him he still became president and broke their mold. How did he do it?

Blogger AgiS October 01, 2020 10:11 AM  

T.A. Shippey in his book "J.R.R. Tolkien:Author of the century" relates how BBC, Daily Telegraph and Folio Society organised some book contests asking their readers/listeners to name the most important book and they hated it so much that the winner turned out to be Lord of the Rings, every single time. Well except the one time where it was second, right behind the Bible.. So you're right, talent will always find a way and truly good books will last forever no matter how hard the academia and other experts are pushing against them.

Blogger Filter Bear October 01, 2020 10:11 AM  

I've been toying with the idea of something similar happening with professional sports, especially for ones that primarily draft out of college. It has been crazy to see every MLB player wearing a mask in game on the bench or a BLM shirt during warm ups -- you would have to figure statistically one would know it is nonsense.

Blogger Filter Bear October 01, 2020 10:18 AM  

@6. Had a similar experience with engineering school, actually. A lot of the less competent software engineers (primarily minorities) slid into minor front-end coding jobs for banks, big tech firms, etc. -- this happened with other engineering majors like my own but it was the most stark in software engineers because of their numbers. Everything at a career fair, the connections you have, the things you put on a resume is seen as a test as to whether you will play ball in a corporate setting.

Blogger Balkan Yankee October 01, 2020 10:28 AM  

Divine support. Without it, Trump would be toast given the array of enemies he has antagonized.

Blogger Harris October 01, 2020 10:28 AM  

If I didn't know that being a college professor would require me violating my values in order to be successful, I would have been a college professor. I don't know how many times I've been told "You should be a college professor." For a couple of years, I did teach Basic Electrical Theory and Air Conditioning Systems Design at a Technical College to train HVAC technicians. I loved the job, and took great satisfaction in opening up minds, and helping people achieve their potential; but, I made only 20% of what I now make as an engineer, and only 10% of what I had been making previously as an independent traveling consultant building out Data Centers across the country.

So the job I loved most was left behind. Do I enjoy the job I have now? Yes. But I did not pursue a job which best suited my talents because of the anti-Christian, anti-conservative bias inherent in the modern academic world. The notion that Colleges and Universities allow free and open discussion of all ideas is simply not true today. So there was no point in me pursuing a PhD and attempting a career in a University.

Ironically, for the last 4 years I have been working as an engineer in the facilities department on a major public university in Texas, and can attest to the intellectual mediocrities that are employed in many of the professorships we have. As the guy in charge of maintaining, and renovating MEP systems in 176 buildings, and overseeing the construction of new buildings, I regularly meet with professors and administrators who display their mental mediocrity for all to see. To be certain, there are SOME very smart people. But if you aren't part of the leftist "club", the path to upward success as an academic is closed off to you. The herd mentality of faculty and upper level staff is astounding. And in order to be successful, you have to bite your tongue and tolerate the insane leftists diatribes that regularly get tossed out in conversations that should have nothing to do with politics.

Furthermore, walking around on egg shells to avoid "offending" some people is a chore. I actually have memo I wrote to myself to read daily that reminds me that where I work is a hostile working environment to me. It reminds me to stay on my toes, and not say something that would get me fired. But it doesn't mean that there isn't an underground current of conservative thought on campus. It just means that it stays way underground, and you have to pick up on silent signals from those who are like-minded, and have conservative and Christian conversations with those similarly inclined is isolated environments.

It shouldn't be like this. But it is. And it needs to change.

Blogger xevious2030 October 01, 2020 10:30 AM  

“and broke their mold. How did he do it?”

An answer is that he didn’t. There are Manchurian Candidates for Evil. Good can have its own Manchurian Candidate, waiting for the right time and condition to become the potential. Even one of the Apostles. Among the early followers, there was a Judas, and among the latter followers there became a Paul. The latter following along a ticket, until not.

Blogger pyrrhus October 01, 2020 10:38 AM  

I have friends and relatives who are IT consultants or employees..A huge percentage of their "supervisors" have proven to be people with no qualifications or knowledge about how to write code, or even what the objectives were...one of them was an obnoxious jew dropped in from Disney, with no knowledge whatsoever..corporate welfare on a grand scale...

Blogger Troy Lee Messer October 01, 2020 10:48 AM  

i live the bottom end of this inversion. my claim to fame is having my own law firm on route 66. I ended in the wilderness for ten years and living in a jeep for 18 months.

It was infuriating trying to survive entry level jobs where minorities and women were encouraged to apply.


It was infuriating watching the Demon State get bailed while even better men than I who worked harder, and had more ambition, and achieved more were left to languish.

But I think it was Jesus's plan that I lose the lollipants and fancipants. My grandchildren adore me. Only my love of Jesus is greater.

Blogger pyrrhus October 01, 2020 10:49 AM  

This has been going on for centuries, as Miles W. Mathis has been documenting on his site...At the more scholarly level, Prof Gregory Clark has documented this statistically in his book "The Son also Rises"...

Blogger Chris Ritchie October 01, 2020 10:54 AM  

I was in line as well, or so I thought. Smart and driven, I chose the USAF Academy instead of the Naval Academy. Did well and graduated. While there, rubbing shoulders with general's sons and senator's sons, I was incredulous to see some get promoted for a Fulbright scholarship, the Kennedy school of government, of course we had our Rhodes scholars as well. None of that was offered to me. Wrong family background I guess. Or my inability to be compromised. I have classmates that now work in the FBI. One is a member of the CFR and a college president. My former roommate is a spook, flying black ops. He's never married with no kids. Just the type they like. Once in the military, when I saw the incompetents getting promoted that I wouldn't follow into the grocery store, much less into battle, I got out.

Instead, I have a large family with property in the country. I'm not dissatisfied. This is The Way.

Blogger cecilhenry October 01, 2020 11:01 AM  

People notice this... how many of the 'journalists' who are given endless TV time seem brilliant to you?

What they are is very complaint at speaking the company line-- and knowing exactly what that line is and how its shifting in real time.

They are good at playing with words--like sophists-- not at telling truths.


In a similar note, it appears that Professional cycling is offically cucked too:

Do you like TRUMP?? (or anyone outside the PC status quo)

Do you tweet about it on your private time???

Well, apparenlty political repression is in and civil rights are OUT if you're on the right.

This should be grounds for a civil rights suit.

Trek-Segafredo suspend Quinn Simmons for 'divisive, incendiary, and detrimental' statements on social media


https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/trek-segafredo-suspend-quinn-simmons-for-divisive-incendiary-and-detrimental-statements-on-social-media/

Blogger Doom October 01, 2020 11:08 AM  

Actually, this also explains some people. People who have everything right... good family, came and have one, honestly Christian... seemingly, and else, but who just go broke left on some topics... or outright lie about them.

I... wondered. Yes, I think it is because they took some ticket, accepted whatever they can get at any price. I do understand. The ticket isn't always all that much. Actually limited for having other good qualities, like being a family man. That would make sense.

Blogger Azimus October 01, 2020 11:08 AM  

This is a description of the patronage system from someone on the outside of it. Has there ever been another system at the top of the ladder that doesn't involve war/assassination/political intrigue?

Blogger Ska_Boss October 01, 2020 11:09 AM  

I've discovered this phenomenon throughout my professional life as well. Though it usually manifests in the form of treachery. I don't hold the people who have betrayed me accountable because I know the spirit that works in them, I forgive but I don't forget. Just move on and try something new with other people.

Now I no longer chase money but rather the Truth, it's much more fulfilling anyway.

Blogger CM October 01, 2020 11:09 AM  

from the time they were children with reports from the other little kids in the school around them, watching them, looking to compromise them, and having failed, expending its effort thwarting them or moving them somewhere else.

Wow. So if I had a moment in high school where this clicked, that wouldn't be unusual.

Blogger crescent wrench October 01, 2020 11:11 AM  

thethirdcoast wrote:There is an enormous percentage of corporate jobs that are nothing more than paper pushing BS. They are the office equivalent of one team that digs the holes and the other team that fills them in.

"On the phenomenon of bulls--t jobs" was the title of an article from a decade ago that explored this and came to the conclusion most urban jobs are over-paid because they contribute nothing to society and the people who do them know it:

That's why they live lives of depression, stress, and high addiction/suicide rates even as they rake in salaries double and triple that of the plumber who fixes their sink.

Blogger Chris Ritchie October 01, 2020 11:18 AM  

Nixon started his career as several of those tribes were decisively gaining control of the country before WWII.

As a kid, and then a younger man, I could never figure out why Kennedy becoming the first Catholic president was such a big deal. He was Christian, right? What I didn't know then was that it was a political class usurping the power of the founders and "my" people.

Blogger Unknown October 01, 2020 11:19 AM  

"How many good young kids, filled with ability, effort, and determination, had a dream like being an actor, or a writer, or a reporter, and they end up expending their entire life on the dream, betting everything on themselves, and died baffled at how they ended up failing while surrounded by untalented rubes who soared?"

This quote hit home. I've always had the dream of being a writer. It's something I've worked at since I was a kid. And I've always loved science fiction.

When I read Scalzi's book "Old Man's War," it was obvious to me that he didn't know the first thing about the military. And I found some parts of the book laughable, like the war with the planet with tiny people and how the soldiers defeat them by stepping on them like ants. If this guy got a book deal for writing military sci-fi, I I figured I could give it a shot. I wrote my first sci-fi book and came up with a good title: "Galaxy of Heroes." I was surprised that it hadn't been used. I queried for agents and couldn't find one, but was soon flooded with offers from vanity publishers who told me how great I was but wanted me to pay them.

This was about the time Kindle was taking off so I published my book on Kindle and sold quite a few copies. I think my title was a big selling point. When you Googled it, the first thing that came up was my book.

I wrote "Galaxy of Heroes II," which I thought was better than the first book. Right when I released the book, Disney released a Star Wars app called Galaxy of Heroes. When you Googled my book title, it was Disney's app that appeared. My book was pushed way back on the Google pages. That app pretty much erased me from Google. I've always wondered if the timing of that app had anything to do with my book's release.

My books still sell on Kindle and it's a nice income supplement. But I've come to the conclusion that publishing is a dirty business filled with scammers and rip-off artists while a few insiders get the big publishing deals.

I still write books because I feel compelled to. And I publish on Kindle because they still allow me to. But I no longer have illusions about book deals.

My books are here: https://www.amazon.com/Gus-Flory/e/B0030FVI62/ref=dp_byline_cont_book_1

Blogger Br1cht October 01, 2020 11:22 AM  


Doktor Jeep wrote:In high school the English teacher liked my prose or something. Told me to write for the school paper. I was then as independent a thinker as I am now.

Yes, we are all in Vox´s situation. Don´t get me started on Middle school.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch October 01, 2020 11:23 AM  

Spiritual pheromones. They smell each other, and they recognize outsiders.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 October 01, 2020 11:25 AM  

I have to say though, that it is quite amazing the level of lying that has gone on in the USA. We have nepotism at all levels, from the rich elites to the poor immigrants, but the middle class is told they must achieve based on their merits.

But when said middle class goes to their jobs, they're told that they're inherently racist and must submit to the social justice narrative and bend the knee for their white privilege.

Blogger Laramie Hirsch October 01, 2020 11:26 AM  

I actually agree.

Blogger Angantyr October 01, 2020 11:29 AM  

Matthew wrote:It really makes Trump all the more fascinating. With all of the powr ans might that the demon-ocracy of United States society thrown against him he still became president and broke their mold. How did he do it?

Hopefully a lot of help in High places...

Blogger Laramie Hirsch October 01, 2020 11:45 AM  

I’ve experienced all this. Plenty of credentials, education, and talent. Slots open up that are obvious and a clear match. But the veteran professional is passed up, and the position handed to new graduates—or worse, to people who burn down a department with their reckless attitudes. Meanwhile, the gaslighting ensues, and your closest allies tell you “Your talents are being wasted here, you have so much potential, I don’t understand how they can’t see that.” It’s pretty damn horrible. Again, this unspoken clique smells their own, and they recognize and despise outsiders.

Blogger Jim H October 01, 2020 11:45 AM  

I think God may exert his Providence to limit the "success" (by the world's standard of success) of many of His true children because of the temptations and entanglements that come with worldly success. My Pastor once said 90% of Christians can handle hardship (and the hardship usually makes us better people), but only 10% can handle big success without a major fall.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 01, 2020 11:58 AM  

Scuzzaman wrote:By all means define success for yourself (although I'd recommend taking God's definition) but before you do that consider what is valuable, permanent, and worthy?
Relationships, with God, family and friends. What else has eternal significance? What else can you take with you when you die?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 01, 2020 12:01 PM  

Headhunting writ large and with extra criteria.

"A lot of this doesn't require the grand and impossible conspiracy AC believes in (he cannot explain how authors like Peter Schweizer get published by the Big 5, or while I didn't debate him on this, why publishers like Regnery are still allowed, albeit with this author of 2016 "The Flight 93 Election" earning this year a serious death threat if our side loses the election.

A lot was made inevitable by our immigration policies that allowed in floods of clannish peoples from outside the Hajnal line starting with the Irish. Nixon started his career as several of those tribes were decisively gaining control of the country before WWII."


It was growing well before that, banksters at the bottom, Babylon historically. You control the societal blood supply, you control where the cells are allowed to grow.

After the Flood, it all started with the man dishonored by being referred to as Nimrod so that his real name would be forgotten, who claimed that God had no power, and began work on a tower... which was at least partially rebuilt by later Babylonian rulers.

The mythology has a way of flipping things around in order to conceal sordid points of history for heroes and progenitors of the culture through which it was passed down. The mythology also often records one person by multiple names due to transmission through multiple languages and cultures. Interesting that the Biblical time when the languages were divided corresponds so well with the primary mythological age.

Blogger SmokeyJoe October 01, 2020 12:10 PM  

I once applied for a loan. Branch manager started the paperwork. Was "asked" if I had dual citizenship in a (((country))). Several minutes later, was shuttled from manager's office to a cubicle with different person and different paperwork. Apparently my answer was not correct...

Blogger vmax71 October 01, 2020 12:13 PM  

A very solid family structure. A harsh but motivating father gave him 1 million bucks in start up money. A loving and supportive 10 year older brother Assisted in teaching him the ropes

Blogger Latigo3 October 01, 2020 12:22 PM  

It's either God or money, there is no in between. Makes sense, looking back at life, there is a ceiling if they see that you are not willing to bow

Blogger Section 8A October 01, 2020 12:25 PM  

This is one of the most thought provoking posts / thread since I've been reading here.

I suspect, as mentioned above, that this is one of the most common denominators of the crowd here.

I'm up to 138 Asst. Principal jobs applied - got one interview about 10 years ago from someone I had previously worked. This despite marked success in the Bad Neighborhood and a well rounded resume.

It's really bad in the public school sector as the Prometheans are entrenched and the midwit / gamma / Karen population has tripwire sensitivity to those who are not in the 'club'.

Blogger Chris Ritchie October 01, 2020 12:33 PM  

Spiritual pheromones. They smell each other, and they recognize outsiders.
As usual, it comes back to this. The biblical framework has the best explanatory power for what is going on, which testifies to its veracity.

Blogger Kraemer October 01, 2020 12:36 PM  

Ur pastor is right. God has a plan for us, and that's the plan that he "specced" us for. If we're not good leaders, it's because God has better plans for us. There are hundreds of things I could never pull off and I pray that I'm never tempted to try them.

Blogger PJW Gent October 01, 2020 12:36 PM  

John Rockwell wrote:...They exchange the Eternal, Infinite Reward for the pittance of Earthly Delights.
It is sating the immediate versus delaying gratification for something more significant in the future. It is probably the most significant trait in success at anything. Why do so many Christians fall apart, never building the strength of faith, knowledge, and holy character expected of them? They succumb to the gratification of the immediate. Discipleship and spiritual growth is a long, hard slog with the reward far away and mostly out of sight.

Our entire society is built around being instantly gratified in almost everything. Christian long obedience in the same direction, that is for suckers they opine; it's pie in the sky when I can eat mine right now.

No wonder we are in such a terrible mess. Its brother-in-arms, impatience, mops up what is left over. We truly are mists in the night easily blown apart by the winds of fate.

Blogger Chris Ritchie October 01, 2020 12:39 PM  

It shouldn't be like this. But it is. And it needs to change.

@38 - And how did it get like this? By not ruthlessly hiring ONLY our own. We were sold the lie of magnanimous equality regardless of background. It's racist not to consider ((())). It's untoward to exclude someone because of their politics. And what happened? As soon as other tribes gained power, that equanimity went out the window and they pulled up the ladders along the walls for all but their own. It is scandalous and evil that in a "Christian" country that our institutions have pushed those with the Founders' faith into the shadows.

There Will Be War

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 12:40 PM  

@46 Azimus:

This is a description of the patronage system from someone on the outside of it. Has there ever been another system at the top of the ladder that doesn't involve war/assassination/political intrigue?

There's a fantastic range of patronage systems, from the Chinese who are so low trust their companies that try to be more than trading companies tend to fail because they eventually put incompetent family members in charge (classic example in America is Wang), to high trust societies that are willing to put outsiders with good reputations in charge of important things. The US is of course no longer one of the latter.

@50 Chris Ritchie:

Nixon started his career as several of those tribes were decisively gaining control of the country before WWII.

As a kid, and then a younger man, I could never figure out why Kennedy becoming the first Catholic president was such a big deal. He was Christian, right? What I didn't know then was that it was a political class usurping the power of the founders and "my" people.


The big deal was the question, "Would he take his marching orders from Rome?" Also remember this is pre-Vatican II.

He was entirely comfortable with his brain trust assassinating the Catholic brothers who ran Vietnam, which along with LBJ's "you broke it, you own it" attitude, good for taking responsibility, bad because he was so very incompetent, plus a lot of corruption in the military, turned it into a "quagmire." Also got a lot of Catholics to bias the apparent coin toss between JFK and Nixon to the former, like my mother in her 20s. Who never made that mistake again.

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau October 01, 2020 12:51 PM  

REHOBOAM from Westworld season three seems to be one of those shows that hints at the truth. REHOBOAM was an AI that charted peoples lives and put people who were going to be an issue for the powers that be into a cannon fodder tract to be eliminated.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 01, 2020 12:59 PM  

A lot of this doesn't require the grand and impossible conspiracy AC believes in

Yes, it can be loosely organized, at least in the material world. There's not a complete org chart written down anywhere, but they all recognize who's in and who's out in their sphere. They promote each other, do favors for each other, and call in chips from each other. The FBI agent doesn't need orders from the top to tell him not to pursue evidence on a certain prominent lawyer in his area. He just knows. If he doesn't, a little voice tells him.

Blogger Miles Plastic October 01, 2020 1:10 PM  

My former manager was useless at his job but had a talent for gluttony, he used to walk around with a carrier bag full of sweets and fill his face with them all day. He was incompetent but could not be sacked from his public sector job, so preventing a more capable person from taking his job.

Blogger drsmith48167 October 01, 2020 1:13 PM  

@ Matthew - maybe he had help, too, as in he was planted there for a reason. One such reason I can think of is to act as counterweight to the left, so (they) think we do not see what is coming - as in the looming Socialist World Order

Blogger Canadian Warlord October 01, 2020 1:19 PM  

Started my electronics career at a top-flight design shop, small, 17 or so people. Future was bright. An older employee screwed up big, dumped a shelf carrying millions of dollars of clients' equipment, disrupting an important meeting. He did manage to get me blamed, fired, and ultimately blackballed from the industry. I went back home to BC and did PLC programming in sawmills, dirty field work, and got on a different track. Ran into old Larry at a car show, he kept a '67 Rambler in condition since new (not restored). Good Christian family man. I tried to tell him things worked out but he was too guilty to look me in the eye. Last few "world of wheels" his car is there with the other AMC club guys but no Larry. Never found the way to thank him, he may have passed on.

Electronics design is a better side hustle and hobby than a job. The arrogance is off the charts, the money sucks, and it took a solid decade for me to get back into it I was so disillusioned.

These experiences aren't always as easy as Vox's was. But they do help sharpen resolve for those of us who thought we had it figured out. For the record, my drinking had been so out of control from 9/11 to 2002 when I was canned, that I needed the breather anyway to take a look at the world and re-do the "math." And working all night in a haunted ww2 aircraft hangar, on hydraulic power unit skid wiring, is apparently the recipe to find Alex Jones broadcasting during Katrina.

And honestly, a small amount of sourcing and electronics knowledge has paid major dividends in other industries. I've been able to repair "unfixable" equipment, tools, machining controls, instruments.

Scientia et potentia.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2020 1:21 PM  

Matthew wrote:he still became president and broke their mold. How did he do it?

The enemy is not unified, not terribly smart, has very poor command and control, and is not all-powerful. They are Orcs, not Elves. They depend more on promoting people who they believe will act in the desired manner then on giving orders.
Take the columnist that VD describes. He wasn't told what to write. It wasn't necessary. He got the position because they already knew what he'd write.

Blogger Naaaaaaaah I'm Good October 01, 2020 1:31 PM  

A lot of our stories are thus:

"Build your own platforms."

We did. We created the United States of America.
We built corporations and divisions and teams successfully. Wheels within wheels.

"Convergence."

And then it all was converged and we are pushed out, despite having drive, zeal, education, experience and results.

They are burning it all down recklessly (and literally). They can't create, only destroy. They can't make the machine work.
It's like Steve McQueen in The Sand Pebbles: "They ain't got the brains, Captain."
They don't understand it and can't do maintenance on something they don't understand.

These sentiments are this blog and why it is a thing of genius.

Blogger Joanna October 01, 2020 1:36 PM  

I would like a definition of "Promotheans. Also, thanks for the post on Gab. I will now migrate from Facebook to Gab, to a safer group of users.

Blogger RedJack October 01, 2020 1:44 PM  

I could tell stories. Famous Libertarian business men who are more crooked than you would believe. Companies promoting based on social status and punishing performance.

But my favorite was being told that not committing a felony was detrimental to the bottom line and ended .y growth potential.

Ethics and morals will limit your growth. That is ok to me, because I got to a point where I saw some who had neither destroy Companies, their family, and ultimately themselves.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer October 01, 2020 1:49 PM  

A worthy epitaph would be, "Like North Vietnam, he lost every battle, but he won the War."

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 01, 2020 1:55 PM  

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:The big deal was the question, "Would he take his marching orders from Rome?" Also remember this is pre-Vatican II.
Kennedy was Irish. That was before I was paying attention, but I suspect that Catholic was shorthand for Not American. The Rome thing was a reasonable way to diss the immigrants without being rayciss.

If it wasn't for the Dagos and the Spics, nobody would have tolerated the Micks.

Blogger xevious2030 October 01, 2020 1:56 PM  

"Spiritual pheromones. They smell each other, and they recognize outsiders."
"As usual, it comes back to this. The biblical framework has the best explanatory power for what is going on, which testifies to its veracity."

Powers and Principalities. This is not a human war, though humans are very much a core component of it. Fallen angels, to whom the computer, the smartphone, the jet airplane, supercolliders, are quaint devices for limited servile near chimpanzees to play with. That have been around scores of generations upon scores of generations to powers of ten, read all the best books, probably wrote quite a few of them, been in the presence of God. And still, they tremble.

Blogger RedJack October 01, 2020 2:16 PM  

swiftfoxmark2,

One of my best friends wanted to be a priest. It was his life goal since we were about 6 or so. So, 17 years ago he went to seminary. Spent about a semester there, and then disappeared for six months. My wedding was coming up, and he was in it, and I did not hear from him till the week before (I know my friend, and knew he would be there).

He stopped going to church in his denomination, and almost lost his faith. He won't talk much about his experience other than to say "I thought they were Christian. They are not ."

Another applied to be a Nebraska State patrolmen. On the way out, he was riding with a state politicians nephew, who was drunk and driving 110 down I80. He made the guy pull over, and drove the rest of the way to the academy. He (my friend) was booted OUT by the end of the week. The drunk is now an up and comer in politics.

Tend your garden. Build your community. Do not be despaired over the sick ones, for they have always been there.

As a light in the darkness, I will share one story. There was a man I once knew, who took the ticket. I mean he was given it all. At the time I did not realize it (the ignorance of youth!), and we drifted apart.

One fine day I am back in the area for something or other, and this guy walks up to me. Last I had heard he had been a judge on the path to the state supreme court, but now he was working as a lawyer for a trucking company.

He walked up to me with tears in his eyes, bought me my favorite whisky and sat down. Long story short, he said "Red, I know that you didn't know this but I admired you for not selling your soul. (His words) One morning, I woke up, and decided that the path I was on was to deadly to my soul, and I got off." He had money, power, status, and all the trappings to go with it.

But he now works as a company lawyer in a trucking firm. Gave it all up, turned back to his Faith, and saw how quickly the same "Friends" he had now blocked him at every turn.

Christ paid the price for us, and repentance can happen.

Blogger Avalanche October 01, 2020 2:34 PM  

@31 "because tyranny and feelings."

Did you misspell that last bit? Shouldn't it have been "tranny feelings"?

Blogger Avalanche October 01, 2020 2:41 PM  

@38 " It just means that it stays way underground, and you have to pick up on silent signals from those who are like-minded, and have conservative and Christian conversations with those similarly inclined is isolated environments."

Maybe reinstitute the 'signal' of drawing a fish symbol in the dust with your toe to see if the person you're speaking with is one of y'all? Except the lefties would probably suss it out and destroy you all anyway.

Still, we live behind enemy lines, so being a secret saboteur, a hidden 'priest' teaching 'religion' to carefully chosen acolytes, and working incognito to subvert the controllers is what we do...

Blogger Bezzle October 01, 2020 2:41 PM  

@16. ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 9:05 AM
@7 Johnny: Another reason for exclusion was his being a Quaker; it's been said he was "hired to end the Vietnam War and discarded after that." But the choices he made in the Cold War starting in the late 1940s required ruthlessness to fight the Communists who'd infiltrated US government and society. He earned serious enmity from them in HUAC for example, he kept alive Whittaker Chambers' initial claims again Alger Hiss by that and a sharp lawyer's mind.

And yet, Nixon was the president who oversaw the US getting shafted harder than by any other errand-boy in the 20th Century. He completely debased the currency.

It's no wonder the deep state toyed playfully at rehabilitating Nixon's legacy after his death. If he wasn't their critter all along, he was bag of hammers dumb when it came to overlooking their ulterior agenda of American financial ruination.

Blogger Dark Herald October 01, 2020 2:43 PM  

Matthew wrote:It really makes Trump all the more fascinating. With all of the powr ans might that the demon-ocracy of United States society thrown against him he still became president and broke their mold. How did he do it?


They can afford to let the occasional maverick succeed. After all they are parasites and parasites have to feed.

Besides, they know time is on their side.

The kind of guy who becomes a self-made billionaire is also the kind of guy who works 120 hour weeks.

That guy is not going to have time to raise his sons right. But he can afford to send them to the "best schools" and they do the raising of his sons for him.

That is how you get Lachlan Murdoch taking over from Rupert Murdoch or Truett Cathey replaced by Dan Cathey.

The job of "all the right schools" is to turn the weaker son of a strong man into the next James Taggart.

Blogger Dark Herald October 01, 2020 2:46 PM  

Matthew wrote:It really makes Trump all the more fascinating. With all of the powr ans might that the demon-ocracy of United States society thrown against him he still became president and broke their mold. How did he do it?

Although in Trump's case; "he's been presenting himself as an intellectual light weight that can be polished off before 9AM for decades.

Trump probably hasn't said an unconsidered word since he was seven."

Blogger Skylark Thibedeau October 01, 2020 2:54 PM  

Obama's only success story was disrespecting Trump at the White House Correspondents Dinner causing him to run for President.

Blogger Chris Ritchie October 01, 2020 3:06 PM  

@80 Ominous Cowherd

"If it wasn't for the Dagos and the Spics, nobody would have tolerated the Micks."

I was so well indoctrinated by the public school system that it took me awhile to really grasp this line in the movie, The Good Shepherd:

"The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting."

It was epic because he said it to a mobster, Joe Pesci no less. And the Italian mobster had to sit there and take it.

Blogger Bezzle October 01, 2020 3:10 PM  

@45. Doom October 01, 2020 11:08 AM
Actually, this also explains some people. People who have everything right... good family, came and have one, honestly Christian... seemingly, and else, but who just go broke left on some topics... or outright lie about them.

I... wondered. Yes, I think it is because they took some ticket, accepted whatever they can get at any price....


Certain Litmus tests have greater priority than others. For example, you can have a loyal-opposition conservacuck talking-head career railing against global-warming or even cancel-culture. But one third-rail you can never touch is to breathe out loud that Vince Foster was last seen alive inside the White House.

Hugh Turley once end-ran Bo Snerdley to make that fat-ass fraud Rush Limbaugh's amygdala explode on live-air when he asked him about it, and the roundboy was forced to shill the Starr Report because that was a hidden requirement for keeping his job as a custodian of public opinion.

Blogger Thomas Bateman October 01, 2020 3:13 PM  

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Blogger Stilicho October 01, 2020 3:28 PM  

Half a dozen years ago I was transitioning from one career path to another. I found what I was looking for (through old fashioned networking) but there were times I would submit a resume for open positions that all but said "if you are Stilicho, apply here" they so closely matched my experience, qualifications, etc. Not a single positive response from such submissions (if a response was provided at all). At the same time, I was inundated with calls from headhunters pushing positions that were either way below my pay grade or for which I was not even remotely a good match.

I found it rather curious at the time and ascribed it to MPAI, but I do have to wonder if some other sort of "screening" was being done.

Blogger thethirdcoast October 01, 2020 3:49 PM  

Canadian Warlord-

Thank you for your story.

I started in the design side of my firm almost two decades ago.

I failed their smell test, so I was drummed out into production support.

It's been a blessing in disguise because the production folks are better people, and the hours are normal.

The scary part is that the same people that were controlling the designs 20 years ago are the same ones controlling the designs now.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 4:26 PM  

@85 Bezzle:

@16. ThatWouldBeTelling

[Nixon the ruthless anti-Communist]

And yet, Nixon was the president who oversaw the US getting shafted harder than by any other errand-boy in the 20th Century. He completely debased the currency....


Yeah, it was really appalling how as President in 1965 he removed all the silver in our dimes, quarters, etc.

Oh, wait, his reelection was in 1972. Maybe, just maybe, he didn't bear 100% responsibility for debasing the currency. He inherited a very bad hand, probably impossible but he wasn't at all good at this sort of thing, and played out the last act of the Bretton Woods system.

Ignoring the fact that this is a universal historical phenomena, you'd be better reading up on history starting with for example FDR's confiscation of the nation's gold, and then repricing of it, from ~$20 to $35/oz. And one thing that resulted from Nixon's actions? We got to be able to legally own gold again, for what that's worth.

Blogger Ahărôwn October 01, 2020 4:31 PM  

As usual, it comes back to this. The biblical framework has the best explanatory power for what is going on, which testifies to its veracity.

If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.

John 15:19

Blogger Azimus October 01, 2020 4:47 PM  

69. ThatWouldBeTellingOctober 01, 2020 12:40 PM
There's a fantastic range of patronage systems... to high trust societies that are willing to put outsiders with good reputations in charge of important things. The US is of course no longer one of the latter.


I agree with the fundamental aspect of your point, there is a range. Even within high trust societies. That range is dependent on the vulnerability of the patron to risk, and that is a function of what is being done. I wouldn't necessarily need to be blood brothers with the night clerk running my gas station for me, or book the appointments at my dentists office. But if I was in some illegal stuff, things that could ruin me, it absolutely has to be someone loyal first and competent later. Hence the sometimes metaphorical, sometimes literal bending of the knee.

But the very presence of a range and your global examples show that after a certain level on the ladder, loyalty is more important than competence the world 'round. I don't know if there has ever been any other method - except during war.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 01, 2020 4:48 PM  

Chris Ritchie wrote:
I was so well indoctrinated by the public school system that it took me awhile to really grasp this line in the movie, The Good Shepherd:

I don't do movies much, so I had to go searching:
Joseph Palmi:
Let me ask you something... we Italians, we got our families, and we got the church; the Irish, they have the homeland, Jews their tradition; even the n*ggers, they got their music. What about you people, Mr. Wilson, what do you have?

Edward Wilson:
The United States of America. The rest of you are just visiting.

It's time we made our visitors behave.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 6:05 PM  

@71 Damelon Brinn:

A lot of this doesn't require the grand and impossible conspiracy AC believes in

Yes, it can be loosely organized, at least in the material world. There's not a complete org chart written down anywhere, but they all recognize who's in and who's out in their sphere.


I've read it's called an "autoconspiracy." No midnight meetings of cowled individuals in a cave, but a group of like minded people with a lot of spontaneous organization, but also a lot of hive mind activity, like every time we see them turn on a dime and declare we have always been at war with Eastasia, taking cues from each other, nowadays sped up tremendously by technology.

One of the reasons I avoid AC after he developed this 3rd of his idée fixe is that in his worldview we're already living in a lethal covert version of Nineteen Eighty-Four and there is no hope.

But fighting autoconspiracies? Well, we've got our own, and they can get very real very fast when things get serious, as you can see for example in Red state disaster situations.

Blogger eclecticme October 01, 2020 6:30 PM  

"@7. JohnnyOctober 01, 2020 8:35 AM
I am reminded of Richard Nixon and his career. From California, he went to Duke Law, and after he graduated, tried to get into one of the high status law firms in New York. In his opinion he was shut out because he wasn't part of what he later called the Harvard Establishment. That is why he went back to California and went into politics. He saw himself as limited in his chosen career in law."

I was surprised to see an honest but crude defense of Richard Nixon in an underrated movie; Joshua Then and Now. I did not read Witness, Out of Bondage, or Blacklisted by History until later in life.

Nixon clip at link at 15:00. Start at 12:00 for great James Woods dialogue..
https://youtu.be/t-f-Zy7ZKKc?t=895

Blogger The Remnant October 01, 2020 6:52 PM  

Preach. It took me a long time to learn that the world is run by midwits who fancy themselves as elite, and that true excellence frightens and even offends them. It pierces their delusions, shatters their egos, and gums up their ability to do whatever they please. Unfortunately, they outnumber us, so they call the shots except in those rare instances when the excellent man pulls off an upset (and is often martyred in the process).

Blogger VD October 01, 2020 7:05 PM  

One of the reasons I avoid AC after he developed this 3rd of his idée fixe is that in his worldview we're already living in a lethal covert version of Nineteen Eighty-Four and there is no hope.

It's hard for non-Christians who see much of the truth to have hope.

Blogger Bobiojimbo October 01, 2020 7:17 PM  

Explains much. Thank you.

Blogger Vaughan Williams October 01, 2020 7:33 PM  

AC has always said there is a spiritual element to this. I never saw him black pilling or saying there is no hope. I don't know if he is a Christian, but I think he is.

Blogger Unknown October 01, 2020 8:33 PM  

"hive mind activity, like every time we see them turn on a dime and declare we have always been at war with Eastasia"

This. It's similar to a not fully understood mechanism in termites. Termites are described as eusocial. Eusociality is a fascinating phenomenon and involves physical pheromones. I was interested to learn that some mammals may be described as eusocial. Here's Infogalactic with more: https://infogalactic.com/info/Eusociality

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 9:07 PM  

@101 VD:

One of the reasons I avoid AC after he developed this 3rd of his idée fixe is that in his worldview we're already living in a lethal covert version of Nineteen Eighty-Four and there is no hope.

It's hard for non-Christians who see much of the truth to have hope.


I suppose that's possible, but it's not my point at all. If you want a hope for success in this world, the Deep State simply can't be as omniscient, omnipotent, omnicompetent, and omnipresent as AC believes it to be.

To expand on all those points beyond the counterfactuals I previously mentioned having debated with AC, real omniscience, and especially the omnipresence he claims of agents of the Deep State embedded everywhere in everything fails hard to math if simple human means are being used. Omnicompetence and omnipotence, ha! Seeing them flail so hard against Trump for such pathetic results should put such notions to rest, and the only way they can "win" this election is by burning down the very establishment which exercises their limited power, and protects them from our wrath.

And now that you've got me thinking along this line and using that sort of description of AC's perception of our Deep State, it's by definition very close to being supernatural. And I won't deny that, you can most certainly sense the raw, seething evil some of them "emit" when they focus on you as a person, a most unsettling thing that results in a strong "I don't want to ever be in this person's presence again" revulsion. But organized vs. chaotic? I think much more the latter.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 9:15 PM  

@104 Up from the pond:

"hive mind activity, like every time we see them turn on a dime and declare we have always been at war with Eastasia"

This. It's similar to a not fully understood mechanism in termites. Termites are described as eusocial. Eusociality is a fascinating phenomenon and involves physical pheromones.


Like AC's first big idea of applying r/K theory to humans, that sounds like a promising approach to look for analogies. As thinking beings, we're not limited to hard wired mechanisms like pheromone emission and detection, and with "modern" communications starting with semaphore relay stations and then the telegraph actual physical contact of any sort is no longer required.

On the other hand, modern high bandwidth relative to those means, especially visual of, say, things like meme pictures, videos of stuff and people, etc. probably brings us back into the realm of the truly physical. At least, they're not abstract like words, sentences, paragraphs....

Blogger tdcommenter October 01, 2020 9:32 PM  

How was the name Prometheans arrived at? Was there a specific reference beyond the myth of the titan?

Blogger Heath D October 01, 2020 9:41 PM  

Talk about a Republican voting for Biden, I have seen Republicans for Biden signs in my neighborhood.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( The first rule of Dunning-Kruger Club is that she don't know she's in Dunning-Kruger Club ) October 01, 2020 10:22 PM  

44. cecilhenry October 01, 2020 11:01 AM
how many of the 'journalists' who are given endless TV time seem brilliant to you?


remember when Chelsea Clinton was a "journalist"? that didn't last very long. they paid her almost a million dollars for a year and a half of "work" though.

69. ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 12:40 PM
bad because [JFK] was so very incompetent,


you remember why the Bay of Pigs happened, right?

because JFK was an idiot.

Blogger Taignobias October 01, 2020 10:30 PM  

Not long ago, I came to the term "complicity theory". It was the same idea as autoconspiracy, worded differently: that it only takes a few "truly" evil people to work destruction if most are evil enough to just comply.

Take this Covid junk. You have the media conspiracies and their accomplices, the scientistic conspiracy and its accomplices, and many others complying with one another, and most outside the loop will simply comply. So the previously unthinkable becomes a "new normal", not because of one vast conspiracy, but because of the compliance of many little conspiracies and the sheep-like majority.

It only really makes sense if we acknowledge the reality of our Lord's enemies.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2020 10:33 PM  

Heath D wrote:I have seen Republicans for Biden signs in my neighborhood.
You need to move. Or develop a good case of pyromania.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash October 01, 2020 10:34 PM  

"There's two kinds of neighbors, Miss Lane; the kind you helps out, and the kind you burns out."
- Chuck Connors playing a hillbilly on an old Superman episode from the 50s.

Blogger Taignobias October 01, 2020 10:40 PM  

I am heartened by this learning. My cousins and I have chosen to serve the God of our ancestors (that is, Christ), and I have often been amazed how my skilled cousins and I have spent more time unemployed than employed. I'm talking about class-toppers, inventors and mechanics from a young age who have never failed to produce tenfold more value than they receive in compensation, let go or trapped in entry-level jobs.

If we are despised by the world because of our Lord, how blessed we are! What greater reward could we hope for, than that the vipers behind abortion and Comet Pizza hate us?

Blogger David October 02, 2020 2:30 AM  

Nixon's personality and demeanor told you right away he was an outsider. From the start, he was ruthless and a little too independent, especially when he went after Alger Hiss, an Establishment darling. That's not something a person aspiring to become part of the establishment would do. But it was the only way Nixon could climb up. So in a way, he was both tragic and doomed.

Before Trump, Nixon was probably the most prominent outsider ever to reach the top. And yet, unlike Trump, Nixon never truly challenged the power or aims of the establishment. So why did the establishment take him down?

Probably because no matter how hard you try to fit in, if you're an outsider, you will always be unwelcome and kicked out. And if you can do the job of president better than an establishment figure can, you will REALLY be hated. It might be as simple as that. Throughout his political career, Nixon was a gate-crasher who refused to take the hint and leave quietly. So the establishment forced him out, even if it meant traumatizing and demoralizing the country.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope October 02, 2020 3:08 AM  

CNN is creaming their panties right now that Trump announced he and Melania caught COVID. These people are sick and insane.

Blogger SirHamster October 02, 2020 3:27 AM  

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:I suppose that's possible, but it's not my point at all. If you want a hope for success in this world, the Deep State simply can't be as omniscient, omnipotent, omnicompetent, and omnipresent as AC believes it to be.
What does what you want have to do with anything?

AC doesn't believe in an omniscient, omnipotent, or omnicompetent Deep State. Why are you burning strawmen?

He theorizes that there is a very sophisticated and well organized organization operating behind the scenes of what we see, which is based on a very wide set of observed (((coincidences))).

His thinking there is a secret tech a few generations beyond what is common knowledge is not a belief in DS omnipotence or omniscience. So again, why strawman his beliefs? Why are you trying to discredit AC?

Blogger Mabuti October 02, 2020 5:27 AM  

Top notch effort in this article. I can't imagine the odds stacked against a young intelligent man born in the lower class in America today.

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 02, 2020 7:26 AM  

When I was younger, I thought it was strange that no one sought out smart kids the way scouts seek out top athletes. If you're the best high school basketball player in your region, you will get visits from college scouts, but if you're the smartest kid, nothing. You get brochures from colleges based on your test scores, but that's all automated. No one from colleges or industries that need smart people reaches out to give you a nudge in their direction.

Now I understand that they were out there recruiting, but only in certain neighborhoods, families, and social circles. The rest need not apply.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 02, 2020 7:46 AM  

@116 SirHamster:

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:

I suppose that's possible, but it's not my point at all. If you want a hope for success in this world, the Deep State simply can't be as omniscient, omnipotent, omnicompetent, and omnipresent as AC believes it to be.

What does what you want have to do with anything?

AC doesn't believe in an omniscient, omnipotent, or omnicompetent Deep State. Why are you burning strawmen?


Maybe he's changed his views, but when I gave up on him, he was claiming all of the above with quite a few specifics, several of which I've noted in the context of their being impossible. Including at the beginning here tight control of what the Big 5 would publish. When I pointed out the counterfactuals of the very damaging to the Deep State books authored by Peter Schweizer, he had no answer other than the unfalsifiable claim of personal experience.

Blogger mh01701@gmail.com October 02, 2020 8:19 AM  

Thanks everyone for sharing hard won pieces of the puzzle. How the world works makes more sense.

This is as good a place to thank the commenters here. A few years ago my dream job turned into a nightmare with a new sociopath boss. I asked for help here a got some good feedback. I was able to survive and finally move on. Thank you all for sharing insight, experience and stories. Thank you Vox for this platform.

Blogger Beloved October 02, 2020 8:57 AM  

The Devil is real, and he's tricked you into believing he can't.

I've met him face to face. You don't want anything to do with him.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 02, 2020 10:27 AM  

"to high trust societies that are willing to put outsiders with good reputations in charge of important things."

As should be clear now, that's not a society, that's a sieve that still happens to look like a society.

"As thinking beings, we're not limited to hard wired mechanisms like pheromone emission and detection, and with "modern" communications starting with semaphore relay stations and then the telegraph actual physical contact of any sort is no longer required."

It's interesting that you mention those back to back as if they were different things rather than just operant at different scales. The latter is a gimped or underdeveloped strong-analogue of the former.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 02, 2020 10:49 AM  

@122 Azure Amaranthine:

"As thinking beings, we're not limited to hard wired mechanisms like pheromone emission and detection, and with "modern" communications starting with semaphore relay stations and then the telegraph actual physical contact of any sort is no longer required."

It's interesting that you mention those back to back as if they were different things rather than just operant at different scales. The latter is a gimped or underdeveloped strong-analogue of the former.


That's because I'm not assuming there's no direct, hardwired biological mechanisms that play a role when people talk to each other "face to face." If we're talking about pheromones, they could conceivably linger on paper used for messages, and ... what was done before relatively cheap paper became a thing? I doubt couriers shlepped carved stone tablets from A to B, but after that phase....

Blogger Bezzle October 02, 2020 11:41 AM  

@91. Thomas Bateman October 01, 2020 3:13 PM
Would you or others help me with the etymology of the term Convergence? It helps me understand the concept if I get why the word was chosen.

See O'Sullivan's Law. Why "converged"? While I'm not a fan of the term "converged" (or "SJW", for that matter, since adopting "social justice warrior" as the three-part Newspeak lie that it is cedes the language to the enemy, which is a primary goal for them), I'm sure that Vox had his good reasons (assuming that he coined it, and that assumption may be incorrect).

It does have one advantage in brevity.


@94. ThatWouldBeTelling October 01, 2020 4:26 PM
@85 Bezzle: "...Nixon was the president who oversaw the US getting shafted harder than by any other errand-boy in the 20th Century. He completely debased the currency...."

Yeah, it was really appalling how as President in 1965 he removed all the silver in our dimes, quarters, etc.

Was I referring to the peasants' coin? No. Under Nixon, the dollar completely lost fixed convertibility to gold, and it was done after that. (FDR, by comparison, may have altered the deal with his overnight thievery in 1935, but at least there was still a deal: Until Nixon, you could still buy an ounce of gold for $35, even with your zinc/copper peasant coin.)

Oh, wait, his reelection was in 1972. Maybe, just maybe, he didn't bear 100% responsibility for debasing the currency. He inherited a very bad hand, probably impossible but he wasn't at all good at this sort of thing, and played out the last act of the Bretton Woods system.

Your best defense is that he rose to his level of incompetence, and then played a dealt deuce-7.

Ignoring the fact that this is a universal historical phenomena, you'd be better reading up on history starting with...

"You'd be better reading up on" the two links in my post, especially the one with all the shiny charts that even a smug gamma idiot could follow.

Blogger Bezzle October 02, 2020 12:03 PM  

@114. David October 02, 2020 2:30 AM
Before Trump, Nixon was probably the most prominent outsider ever to reach the top.

Nixon wasn't an outsider -- he'd been in politics continuously since 1947. If the Deep State didn't like him, they weren't shy, especially during the middle of the last century, about pumping people full of holes if they went off-script.

And yet, unlike Trump, Nixon never truly challenged the power or aims of the establishment. So why did the establishment take him down?

He had accomplished his primary mission, and now the next objective was to serve as a divisive lightning-rod to further cement the illusion within the minds of the lumpen electorate that their precious votes still mattered in a rigged system.

Trump is a true outsider with no prior political career. He was chosen to be the front-man by those (whom we shall call the Q-team) at war with the Deep State.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd October 02, 2020 12:53 PM  

Bezzle wrote:@91. Thomas Bateman October 01, 2020 3:13 PM

Would you or others help me with the etymology of the term Convergence? It helps me understand the concept if I get why the word was chosen.

See O'Sullivan's Law. Why "converged"? ... I'm sure that Vox had his good reasons (assuming that he coined it, and that assumption may be incorrect).

Vox has told us several times that this comes from one of John Stewart Mills' books, in which he said that every institution must be converged on his goals, rather than the institutions' purpose.

Blogger RedJack October 02, 2020 1:11 PM  

I was a national merit scholar. The Ivies at least sent brochures to me in my little rural school. But I was told "We are not where you would feel comfortable ". Which was the truth.

The thing to remember is a top athlete generates revenue, a top scholar comsumes it.

Blogger Chill Penguin October 02, 2020 1:14 PM  

@124 they like to talk about whether they're activists or analysts, we call them warriors. 'social' is an English particle meaning 'not'.
when Catholics talk about their extra and contra-Biblical traditions and catachism we refer to it as the Roman Talmud
and we reject the heterosexual/homosexual dichotomy on the grounds that it isn't rooted in Romans 1 and it's used to accuse people who don't want to say obscene things of being sodomites

Blogger Canadian Warlord October 02, 2020 1:17 PM  

"Deep State" is not an affiliation, it's like "globalist." There are always factions. Trump is obviously cozy with some (((elements))) of power in the USA, even though the (((media))) is after him. This may be the same divide as between Israel and the US-based jewish financial power.

For evidence of deep state splits, recently:
1) 9/11, 36 navy budget analysts tracking down Rumsfeld's 2.3 trillion (September 10 news story), die in a pentagon strike. The only people in that entire side of the pentagram, which was under major renovation.
2) Hilary Clinton super-delegate Tubb Jones is murdered during the 2008 primaries. Later this backchannel support probably endorsed Trump. Evidently Hilary doesn't represent 100% of the deep state!

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 02, 2020 2:17 PM  

@129 Canadian Warlord:

For evidence of deep state splits, recently:
1) 9/11, 36 navy budget analysts tracking down Rumsfeld's 2.3 trillion (September 10 news story), die in a pentagon strike. The only people in that entire side of the pentagram, which was under major renovation.


Unless one of my best friends was lying, or his wife was lying to him, there were more people in that wing, specifically JAG types who she as a civilian worked with who died. I was living in Arlington at the tim, and for example "my" hospital complex was reported to have been the first and major one to accept and treat survivors. A truly vast conspiracy that didn't make major mistakes would have been required for your above claim to be true.

The Official Story is that wing's rebuilding was complete, it was the first in the process, and that was very fortunate because this significantly physically hardened it. And of course provided insights in how to do it better for the remaining wings, and its rebuilding.

Blogger Bezzle October 02, 2020 3:06 PM  

@129. Canadian Warlord October 02, 2020 1:17 PM
2) Hilary Clinton super-delegate Tubb Jones is murdered during the 2008 primaries. Later this backchannel support probably endorsed Trump. Evidently Hilary doesn't represent 100% of the deep state!

Plausible, but I wouldn't put money on it. Hell permits its minions to bloody each other, so as to gauge the most vicious for further promotion. You're not granted a dukedom until you're wearing a belt of skulls.

Blogger Bezzle October 02, 2020 3:48 PM  

"Deep State" is not an affiliation, it's like "globalist." There are always factions.

I disagree with the first sentence, and the evidence is in the Litmus tests all around us, of which compliance is mandatory for advancement.

Vince-shot-himself, global-warming, sustainability, MeToo, Covid lockdown, BLM, etc.

They're the open-secret handshakes.

Blogger Canadian Warlord October 02, 2020 4:17 PM  

@ThatWouldBeTelling,
I'm not as close to the on-the-ground reality as you are. But you don't see anything suspicious about who was hit and when, by that amazing corkscrew maneuver in a jumbo jet by Hanni Hanjour, who failed flight school with cessna's? Or the fact that a large aircraft folded its wings into a 50 foot hole (or they vaporized)? Even youtube will show clips if you try 'rumsfeld trillions.'

@Bezzle,
Agreed.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 02, 2020 4:33 PM  

G Gordon Liddy wrote that CIA liked to paint a problems steering wheel with hard to detect LSD. Then... Tragic car accident.
Saw Liddy speak at college in 1974 or 85. Fantastic in person w a great Q&A after.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 02, 2020 4:41 PM  

My take on the 9-11 conspiracies is

1) That level of realistic fakery would have been almost as complex as the official story if what happened. Also,it would have been vastly simpler to just have the plot be... planted explosives, like the earlier failed attempt backed by the Blind Sheik.

2) Most straightforward idea is that factions in Mossad and/or CIA learned about the plot and decided to keep quiet. But no one ever goes there. It's always something absurdly elaborate.

FWIW I am an engineer, though not a structural guy.

Blogger Shadow Banisher October 02, 2020 5:14 PM  

Most people who sell their souls do so without it even being requested of them.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 02, 2020 5:26 PM  

@133 Canadian Warlord:

@ThatWouldBeTelling,

I'm not as close to the on-the-ground reality as you are. But you don't see anything suspicious about who was hit and when, by that amazing corkscrew maneuver in a jumbo jet by Hanni Hanjour, who failed flight school with cessna's? Or the fact that a large aircraft folded its wings into a 50 foot hole (or they vaporized)?


Do not try to change the goal posts. Did or did not that wing of the Pentagon have a lot more than "36 navy budget analysts" in it when it was hit?

Blogger Azimus October 02, 2020 6:58 PM  

I'm a structural guy - at least, thats what my degree was. The Twin Towers were an unique structure in that the skin of the building carried a significant portion of the building's weight... this allowed for more interior space rather than being taken up by columns that would fill the interior at the lower levels. I think thats why Bin Laden used the airplane in the first place - it could take out a huge swath of the load-bearing skin, and the burning jet fuel would quickly weaken the rest, as we all know steel loses strength rapidly while heated.

This is really the military's specialty not structural engineers - as the old line goes, MechE's build weapons and CivE's build targets...

... but Building 9 was enough to convince me there was an obvious conspiracy working in NYC that day, as well as the immediate collection and refusal to release any and all video images that would've shown the plane hitting the pentagon - and the side of the pentagon that was hit.

Blogger Canadian Warlord October 02, 2020 7:21 PM  

@ThatWouldBeTelling,

It's a number I've heard bandied about but I'll be honest, I haven't seriously looked into it myself for 14 years. There were numerous lamestream reports of 36 budget analysts specifically tracking that down who worked for the navy. I misspoke, apologies.

@Azimus,
There was a core as well. But you're correct, the skin was also designed as structure. The buildings were quite unique at the time for their ability to bend in the wind. But... If the pancake collapse theory is correct, shouldn't the floors have detached from the core and slid down on top of each other? The core you can see falling and disappearing as the rest of the buildings are pulverized. For the record, structural engineers in Canada chalked this all up to crappy American standards and construction. NIST did do a report but I'd given up years ago waiting for word from them about the 6 second collapse of WTC 7, that isn't simply, "diesel fires."

@Newscaper312,
There is an episode of 60 minutes where they expose that plot as an FBI sting. Emad Salem, Egyptian cop, ran the op and trained retards to pull it off. Said retards didn't park the van in the right spot, because "cousin marriage for millennia."

Blogger Bezzle October 02, 2020 8:00 PM  

@135. Newscaper312 October 02, 2020 4:41 PM
My take on the 9-11 conspiracies is

1) That level of realistic fakery would have been almost as complex as the official story if what happened. Also,it would have been vastly simpler to just have the plot be... planted explosives, like the earlier failed attempt backed by the Blind Sheik.


The problem with smuggled explosives (and why the 1993 van-bomb failed) is that they're a poor match for the inner-core/outer-loadbearing-skin architectural design unique to the twin towers. They're built like a toilet-paper tube standing on end with a pencil down the middle. A truck-bomb will just blow a big hole in the middle of three subfloors of non-loadbearing space, and the building otherwise laughs at you. But 117ft wingspan worth of scything action ripping open the side of the toilet-paper tube with several thousand gallons of applied fuel and office plastics blazing merrily for sufficient time to soften trusses to their failure-point above the known extent of applied asbestos -- that'll do, Pig.

The alt-media immediately flood-filled with tsunamis of bullshit calculated to make everyone and every site relaying it look galactically stupid. The mechanism of collapse (pancake avalanche) was of couse as officially concluded because there was a ton of obvious evidence captured by multiply-sourced video from all angles. How the buildings fell down is not the cover-up; who the actors responsible are, and why the Bush administration would remain silent, was the cover-up. And it worked, because any discussion of actors-responsible was snowed under high-decibel Oprah & Alex white-noise about steel melting-points and thermite and free-fall speeds and missiles-not-planes, and tower 7, etc.

2) Most straightforward idea is that factions in Mossad and/or CIA learned about the plot and decided to keep quiet. But no one ever goes there. It's always something absurdly elaborate.

Mossad pulling a fast one (for some inexplicable reason) is absurdly elaborate, too. A little less elaborate is a certain ex-KGB sadist and adrenochrome-swilling pedophile narcissistic psychopath announcing resumption of the Cold War via proxy while his allied Deep State critters in the Bush crime-syndicate CIA and controlled establishment press and alternative-media pointed a million fingers in every other direction. Freshly reskinned as a "conservative strongman" (having shed, unlike the dumb Chinese, that itchy old Marxist-Leninist pair of dried blood-encrusted pajamas), Putin could now sell himself nicely to "rightwing" nationalist groups by harassing gays and Muslims (while arranging to invade Europe with the latter).

Perhaps not a popular opinion a few years ago, but now well-supported by recent Q intel drops regarding Snowden (a black-hat all along) and Russian involvement in the 2016 election supporting Hillary rather than Trump.

These two men do not like each other. --When Putin handed the soccer ball to TGE during the 2017 threat-of-DECLAS "world submission tour" while looking a freshfaced twenty years younger than a man of his age and hardscrabble career advancement had any right to, he wasn't submitting. He was telling Donald to fuck off. "I have nukes, I am 'made mob', and you can't touch me. I am a dictator-for-life in all but name, while you are gone in four-to-eight. Lotsa luck, Pal. Enjoy your forthcoming impeachment." (Putin is less chipper now after Trump ally Saudi Arabia unleashed the 2020 "Oil War" to crater prices and strangle Russia's still largely oil-export-based economy, and then Trump moved token-presences of US/NATO troops into Poland and other still-unreclaimed east-block Kremlin objects-of-desire.)

What we might label as the Q-team today is likely the original NSA facton that solved the enigma of 9/11 and the true scope of the Deep State.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 02, 2020 8:14 PM  

@138 Azimus:

... but Building 9 was enough to convince me there was an obvious conspiracy working in NYC that day

You don't find the Official explanation of WTC 7 credible, of thermal expansion from uncontainable fires pushing a column off its foundation triggering a cascading collapse? I'm not a real engineer, but tend much more in the MechE direction than CivE; that said, on its face it strikes me as plausible.

Blogger Newscaper312 October 02, 2020 9:14 PM  

I was Mechanical, but worked first 13 years in electronics mfg. Later switched to s/w "engineering".

Blogger Azimus October 02, 2020 10:28 PM  

@ ThatWouldBeTelling

Sorry Building 7 is what I meant. No I don't find that official collapse claim convincing for WTC7. Neither does the U of Alaska Fairbanks and many others. A catastrophic free-fall failure is at least possible in WTC1, though I'm dubious of the uniform, simultaneous failure that would require a straight-down pancake failure. Building 7 was not hit by an airplane, or anything that could you could lean on to say "this is what caused a buildingwide, simultaneous failure." I get it was on fire we've all seen the footage. But the implostion/collapse/fall we saw on tape would require simultaneous failure of every column for it to collapse in on itself like that. IMHO a cascading -jenga tower collapse would be more consistent, as columns would fail in succession and it would "flop" like a crumbling tree rather implode.

All of this is IMHO. I never made it to PE or grad school, just the basic CivE/Structural degree and about 2yrs work before I went i to manufacturing management.

Blogger Avalanche October 02, 2020 11:11 PM  

@69 "because JFK was an idiot."

Which I why I'm baffled why so many are wishing for JFK Jr to have been hiding and not dead, lo these past 20 years -- and how once Trump really takes over JFK Jr will come out and be the next prez!

WTH?!

Blogger MrNiceguy October 02, 2020 11:28 PM  

His disastrous Iran deal did lead to the other middle east nations making peace with Israel to inject some sanity to the region.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine October 03, 2020 9:25 AM  

"What we might label as the Q-team today is likely the original NSA facton that solved the enigma of 9/11 and the true scope of the Deep State."

V

"'Deep State' is not an affiliation, it's like 'globalist.' There are always factions."

No matter how good we think Trump is, he's attached to a faction, even if he founded the faction. The Deep State is just what we call the factions we don't like, who aren't willing to do anything for us.

Blogger xevious2030 October 03, 2020 11:29 AM  

“learned about the plot and decided to keep quiet”

Try Fish and Wildlife asking through a tangential, why Arabs would learn to fly but not land. Within a few months or so beforehand.

Blogger Jake October 03, 2020 1:15 PM  

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Blogger Jake October 03, 2020 1:54 PM  

It certainly very "Telling" that there is a someone commenting in this
thread who is focusing in trying to discredit AC with straw-man arguments.
And to use a long-time government employee tattle-tale like Peter
Schweizer as a counter-factual is absurd. AC's theory, if it is correct,
would mean that anyone let into the halls of power like that would be at
least compromised, if not an active participant.
A counter-factual would be someone like Vox Day being allowed into the
halls of power or academia or journalism. However, Vox Day's personal
experiences (and that of a lot of others including my own) would be
placed in the column of evidence for AC's theory, not against.

Finally, AC has never claimed that a system of control using intel,
tech, and networks of people is omniscient or omnipresent.
Conclusion: beware of the tells that subtle operatives use in steering
you away from the truth.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling October 03, 2020 4:35 PM  

@149 Jake:

And to use a long-time government employee tattle-tale like Peter Schweizer as a counter-factual is absurd.

Which of his books have you read to know this? Extortion: How Politicians Extract Your Money, Buy Votes, and Line Their Own Pockets and Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends are very damaging to the Deep State, the latter in particular right now with its coverage of Biden family corruption, and he's of course expounding on it during the campaign.

AC's theory, if it is correct, would mean that anyone let into the halls of power like that would be at least compromised, if not an active participant.

AC does not state a "theory," but a falsifiable claim about objective reality. The above bit is not unique to him, is I thought one most of us agree on, is in fact Vox's point in this posting.

Finally, AC has never claimed that a system of control using intel, tech, and networks of people is omniscient or omnipresent.

Effectively a lie, or you haven't read AC's writings about this with any attention to detail or memory, or as I mentioned before, perhaps he's changed his mind on this recently, coinciding with your only starting to read him recently.

I personally can't fathom the defense of a man who says effective resistance in this world against the Deep State is impossible for almost all of us. He paints a picture that can only lead to despair if taken seriously, and one he can only defend by appeal to authority.

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Blogger Johnny October 03, 2020 11:12 PM  

>"On the phenomenon of bulls--t jobs" was the title of an article from a decade ago that explored this and came to the conclusion most urban jobs are over-paid because they contribute nothing to society and the people who do them know it:

I've always wondered how there can be BS jobs. Wouldn't shareholders have a fit over a company with too many BS jobs?

Blogger Damelon Brinn October 04, 2020 8:54 AM  

Wouldn't shareholders have a fit over a company with too many BS jobs?

1. Do you own stock in any companies? If not, imagine that you did own stock in a company like IBM or a new startup in Silicon Valley.
2. Do you know whether it has too many BS jobs? How would you know? How could you know?

My immediate boss only has a rough idea of how much time I spend in productive work. The CEO has no idea except what my boss tells him. The stockholders can't possibly have a clue.

Blogger Johnny October 04, 2020 11:03 PM  

>My immediate boss only has a rough idea of how much time I spend in productive work. The CEO has no idea except what my boss tells him. The stockholders can't possibly have a clue.

I never thought about it that way. Wouldn't bosses or executives eventually have some way of knowing which jobs were BS jobs? Since you said "BS job" there must be some kind of criteria.

Blogger Bezzle October 04, 2020 11:43 PM  

@153. Damelon Brinn October 04, 2020 8:54 AM
1. Do you own stock in any companies? If not, imagine that you did own stock in a company like IBM or a new startup in Silicon Valley.
2. Do you know whether it has too many BS jobs? How would you know? How could you know?


--A job may or may not be "BS" depending upon who is in it.

My first criteria is to check for a female CEO. The second is to examine the company's Twitter feed.

I won't know the actual BS numbers, but I can guess a percentage.

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