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Friday, November 20, 2020

At the Rubicon

 Alexander Macris contemplates the President at the banks of a certain river of historical fame:

In the closing days of 50 BC, the Roman Senate declared that Julius Caesar’s term as a provincial governor was finished. Roman law afforded its magistrates immunity to prosecution, but this immunity would end with Caesar’s term. As the leader of the populares faction, Caesar had many enemies among the elite optimates, and as soon as he left office, these enemies planned to bury him in litigation. Caesar knew he would lose everything: property, liberty, even his life.

Caesar decided it was better to fight for victory than accept certain defeat. In January 49 BC, he crossed the Rubicon River with his army, in violation of sacred Roman law, and begin a civil war. “Alea iacta est,” said Caesar: The die is cast.

In the closing days of 2020 AD, the American media has declared that Donald Trump’s term as president is finished. As the leader of the deplorables faction, Trump has many enemies among the elite irates, and as soon as he leaves office, these enemies plan to bury him in litigation. Bill Pascrell, the Chairman of the House Ways & Means Subcommittee on Oversight, has officially called for the prosecution of President Trump for “government crimes” following his term in office. In his thirst for vengeance, Pascrell has made it clear there will be no Nixonian escape by pardon:

Donald Trump, along with his worst enablers, must be tried for their crimes against our nation and Constitution. Any further abuse of the sacred pardon power to shield criminals would itself be obstruction of justice, and any self-pardons would be illegal.

Like Caesar, Trump now must fight for victory or lose everything. Come January 2021, will Donald Trump decide to cast the die and cross the Rubicon? He might.

The same people who warned us that Trump is worse than Hitler will now scoff: “Donald Trump is no Caesar!” That’s true. Trump is in a much better position than Caesar was.

Unlike Caesar, Trump can cross the Rubicon legally. He need violate no sacred law. He has all of the legal power he needs to act and win. Congress has given it to him. All he needs to do is invoke the Insurrection Act.

Read the whole thing. It is time for the God-Emperor to cross the Rubicon and put an end the facade that has permitted demons and literal devil-worshippers to rule over the American people. Iacta alea, et transire Rubiconem!

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103 Comments:

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. November 20, 2020 8:25 AM  

New Sec of Def, pulling troops out of middle east, reorganizing special Ops to answer directly to his staff. The die aint yet cast, but he is certainly shaking them in his fist.

Blogger Thomas Preston November 20, 2020 8:27 AM  

Hail, Caesar!

Blogger Andrew Jackson November 20, 2020 8:48 AM  

Do it! Millions of Kyle's will rally to his banner!

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 20, 2020 8:49 AM  

Prosecution is the least of what they intend for him and his entire bloodline. Like Caesar, he really has no choice but to win.

Blogger JovianStorm November 20, 2020 8:56 AM  

He leads an army of 70 million+ and would easily win were he to do so.

I look forward to his victory as the anointed leader of the Free World!

Blogger Werekoala November 20, 2020 8:59 AM  

That guy is good. I never even knew about how the threat of Militia conscription broke two labor strikes. I'm sure I didn't know that for a reason....

Blogger Brett baker November 20, 2020 9:01 AM  

They should have taken the hint when Hillary wasn't locked up. But no, they had to believe their own BS.

Blogger John November 20, 2020 9:01 AM  

It helps that Trump won the election by historic margins, too, and that his enemies are almost all sellout puppets of the Chicoms.

I think the courts will rule for Trump, because the fraud is so farcically obvious, but if they didn't, what's to stop 100,000 of his supporters from surrounding the White House in January and declaring that Americans will not allow fraud to disenfranchise them?

Blogger Mr Smith November 20, 2020 9:02 AM  

While in no way, do I support the Yankee usurpers of 1861, "God's and Generals" had a great seen with Jeff Daniels playing Army Maj. Gen. Joshua Chamberlain. Hail Caesar, we who are about to die salute you!

Blogger Daniele Grech Pereira November 20, 2020 9:10 AM  

Ave! Let's go!

Blogger thechortling November 20, 2020 9:13 AM  

Lefties have pissed themselves for a century over a coming Cromwellian Theostate.

Why not feed their fears?

Blogger SB71 November 20, 2020 9:15 AM  

"New Sec of Def, pulling troops out of middle east, reorganizing special Ops to answer directly to his staff. The die aint yet cast, but he is certainly shaking them in his fist."

Yes, Trump is sending a warning. Long overdue. Make the cheaters and crooks think long and hard about what they've done and if they're ready to go to federal prison - or possibly the stockade?

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont November 20, 2020 9:16 AM  

Everything Macris says is plausible and possible if Trump has the courage to do what he must.

I had hoped that my children would live peaceful lives, but to step away from conflict when it is offered is literally surrendering to Satan's rule.

My only question is, when will Trump wet his feet? Sound the call already!

Blogger kmbr November 20, 2020 9:18 AM  

I don't envy his position but the fate of the entire globe rests on his shoulders.

If they succeed, they have every intention to Hunger Game us all, not in ten or twenty years either.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 20, 2020 9:19 AM  

Lucky 7 baby

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 20, 2020 9:26 AM  

All the various notes from Q over the last two years have pointed to this scenario as the end-game. My President will probably go through the legal challenges before invoking the Insurrection Act. If he prevails, then the left will rebel. If he fails in the courts, he solidifies his support to declare an insurrection. War is coming either way.

My question is how much foreign influence will there be when things go hot. Will the Chinese ship arms to the left? Have they already positioned arms shipments to the US? Will foreign militaries take advantage of the civil war to attack CONUS? They will certainly step into the void in other parts of the world. Interesting times.

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis November 20, 2020 9:33 AM  

I've reached the point that I'd be willing to accept totalitarian rule by a good, benevolent dictator than this current third-world banana republic of communists, sociopaths and degenerates. If Trump were to declare himself Emperor and rid America of this scum once and for all, I'm on board. A constitution only works if all parties abide by it, which is not happening.

Blogger Bellomy November 20, 2020 9:34 AM  

Trump certainly should do it, but it doesn't seem he likely he will. Pray th legal challenges hold up.

Blogger Dos Voltz November 20, 2020 9:58 AM  

I wish Trump's legal team would use some simple videos as evidence to fortify their case to the public. If they showed this little clip from CNN it would also add to the proof that they are indeed Fake News.

Watch the vote tallies for PA in this video. Less than a minute passes and you can see that Trump magically loses about 20,000 votes and in the same instant Biden inherits the same.

https://gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/059/639/420/original/a822b10c88d01a7e.mp4

Blogger Ora Tevzre November 20, 2020 10:07 AM  

The die is cast.

Cowards die many times before their deaths;
The valiant never taste of death but once....

Blogger Solon November 20, 2020 10:08 AM  

I used to be a naive libertarian. But I've gotta say, if Trump calls up the militia, I'm going. I'm of-age, male, and able-bodied. Wife left me and took the kid, so I've got nothing better to do with my time but help save the republic (and doing so still protects them. Even if she's abandoned her vows, I wont abandon mine).

There's been some chatter about "forcing children to take the Pledge of Allegiance" in school, considering they're minors and can't legally take oaths like that.

Let's settle it then right now:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands; one nation, UNDER GOD, with liberty and justice for all."

There. Oath taken, with all the commenters here as witness. We can talk about the misleading "one nation" and "under God" part later.

Let's go commie hunting. Praise God and pass the ammunition. Ave Trump, and Deus Vult.

Blogger Gregory the Tall November 20, 2020 10:08 AM  

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/11/insulting-demanding-rude-told-never-contact-sidney-powell-goes-off-tucker-carlson-video/
Cucker Tarlson?

Blogger Br1cht November 20, 2020 10:18 AM  

Ave Imperator!

Blogger VD November 20, 2020 10:21 AM  

Will foreign militaries take advantage of the civil war to attack CONUS?

No. Don't be ridiculous. The logistics are implausible to the point of impossibility. They'd need to have very large bases set up in Canada and Mexico already.

Blogger kennymac November 20, 2020 10:23 AM  

@16 Sorry, black piller, but there are MEN on this blog. Your pathetic, mewling does not discourage us, but only hardens our resolve. Go shill somewhere else.

Blogger Dole November 20, 2020 10:23 AM  

If president Trump crosses the Rubicon, he will be compared to the Caesars.

Blogger Gypsy November 20, 2020 10:26 AM  

"I don't want to be in a battle but waiting on the edge of one I can't escape is even worse". My husband and I are ready, he can fight and I can provide medical support.

Blogger grok November 20, 2020 10:27 AM  

So about China would need basesbin Canada already:
https://cirnow.com.au/canada-today-invaded-by-chinese-troops/

Blogger Frank L November 20, 2020 10:28 AM  

The Left has an advantage as long as the war is undeclared and people have to go to their day jobs. Righties need someone to blow the whistle and tell them to switch modes from peace to war.

Blogger Unknown November 20, 2020 10:29 AM  

he wont.

Blogger SemiSpook37 November 20, 2020 10:32 AM  

While I appreciate the idea that I can still be of help, I happen to live in one of those places where one of my specific rights has been infringed, mainly because the political apparatus here is afraid of inanimate objects.

But, I'm willing to do what needs to be done if it's what my leader needs me to do. Can't sit on the sidelines too much longer.

Blogger lynnjynh9315 November 20, 2020 10:36 AM  

I fear the milquetoast masses are not ready yet. If Trump does this, moderate support will wane, his legitimacy will be smeared, and all pretenses of democracy will be gone.

Perhaps that's what we need. But buckle up.

Blogger phil g November 20, 2020 10:37 AM  

Ha ha I see what you did there. Well played sir.

Blogger Hammerli 280 November 20, 2020 10:43 AM  

I hate to disagree, but if Trump had the nerve to cross the Rubicon, he would not NEED to cross the Rubicon.

Trump has a weakness. Underneath the gruff exterior, he's a Nice Man. And that niceness has prevented him from moving forcefully against the Seditious Conspiracy. Or arresting Joe Biden at the first Presidential debate on Bribery charges.

Had he done either, the election would have been a foregone conclusion.

I expect Trump to fight this out in the courts, but nothing further.

Blogger BastiatGold November 20, 2020 10:46 AM  

#CrossTheRubiconDon

There is chatter about the volume of military planes in the sky & flight logs to Gitmo.

Difficult to know what is truly happening, but if the Cabal is planning an endgame push, the Trump Alliance has way more outs & way more cards.

The massive official Trump rally's, the non-campaign planned rally, #TrumpSlide by those in the know & now the awakening of election fraud from the normies......tells us 1 clear thing: there are WAY more of us, than there are of them.

Yes, fence sitters & bow-tie straightening negotiators exist. But there are a LOT more God-fearing, not-on-my-lawn citizens in a America.

If money is cut off from the BLM/Antifa pawns, how much strength do they really have? Dear Lord, Joey Basement couldn't even fill up 20 circles without asking the media to sit in! One of his "rallys" was downgraded to "meeting" since the number of people was less than 30!

The NEWS IS FAKE.

Only concern I have is if there are cabal leaders in the military that can lead a movement. But, given how Red, White & Blue soldiers bleed, I find it hard to believe they could muster enough strength against Trump.

Any Civil War scenario, is likely to be sporadic & brief. Cabal is losing. Retreat from America is more likely.

Blogger LiveForever November 20, 2020 10:46 AM  

Tuck the Cuck.

Blogger tuberman November 20, 2020 10:48 AM  

>> I think the courts will rule for Trump, because the fraud is so farcically obvious

@John Check out Rex, putting out one of his best: https://social.quodverum.com/@REX/

Do I think Trump will Cross the Rubicon in the end? Yes, in spite of what Rex says about the courts, the DS will force him to go Roman, as they will even deny the court judgements.

"They have the power to supervise lower courts as individual judges.

Including fast tracking cases to the FULL COURT."

"And look what happened on Oct 19, 2018. A sudden change.

GEORGIA - went to Thomas
WISCONSIN- went to Kavanaugh
PENNSYLVANIA- went to Alito"

Yet The Glow-Clowns are all-in will and even act against these judgements. Then comes the Crossing.

Blogger Boo Boo the Fool, Esquire November 20, 2020 10:56 AM  

One of my favorite revenge fantasies is when Odysseus finally returns home and has to deal with all the suitors harassing his wife. After they fail all his tests, he bolts the doors and just starts slaughtering them with his OP bow.

Blogger Sean Carnegie November 20, 2020 10:58 AM  

They'd need to have very large bases set up in Canada and Mexico already.

Canada is already the largest globalist base in existence. Just wait until UBI and other Spawn of Satan ideas get instituted. We already have on demand abortion.

Blogger Salt November 20, 2020 10:58 AM  

Gregory the Tall wrote:Cucker Tarlson?

Tucker wants the smoking gun. That's not how the evidence presentation works here.

Blogger modsquad November 20, 2020 11:00 AM  

"I would protest this, but I’m currently on lockdown."

10/10 on the sarcasm scale.

Blogger Manuel November 20, 2020 11:09 AM  

Correct Latin: ...transi Rubiconem.
"Transire" is the infinitive, "to cross" #CrosstheRubicon

Blogger Crew November 20, 2020 11:12 AM  

I will accept Donald Trump as my President or my King. Either is acceptible.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 20, 2020 11:20 AM  

Will the Chinese ship arms to the left?
They already have been.
Have they already positioned arms shipments to the US?
All ready to go.
Will foreign militaries take advantage of the civil war to attack CONUS?
No. Not unless they're suicidal. It's not logistically possible.
They will certainly step into the void in other parts of the world.
And we care, why?

Blogger Doug Cranmer November 20, 2020 11:33 AM  

Jeff aka Orville wrote:My question is how much foreign influence will there be when things go hot. Will the Chinese ship arms to the left? Have they already positioned arms shipments to the US?

"Dominion Voting Systems Corporation is a company that sells electronic voting hardware and software, including voting machines and tabulators, in the United States and Canada.[1] The company's international headquarters are in Toronto."

So how much did CSIS and the RCMP know about this company's activities in subverting elections in Venezuela and the US prior to this election? It's hard to believe this slipped completely by them. And if they were aware what did our government officials do with this information. From my point of view it would be a tremendous opportunity to help out an ally. But knowing Trudeau, he would probably sit on it just to give a FU to the Americans. Great.

There's a CBC article on the company that devotes a couple of paragraphs to make it clear that this couldn't be used in Canadian elections because we use paper ballets, yadda yadda. But it sounds more like they're just trying to get ahead of people asking questions. Fine, we use paper ballets. So how _would_ you subvert an election here? I'm sure it's been gamed out by a number of actors. If there's enough incentive it can be done.

This whole mess pretty much answers the question I've had for years now. Why are virtually all elections so closely run? I mean within a percentage or fraction of a percentage on either side of 50%. Because they've always been rigged. And having them close was a better option than having a wide margin because that would definitely raise questions. They just chose the least worst one each time. The problem is that establishes an unreasonable pattern over time that eventually sticks out.

This is the real problem. What happens to a "democracy" when people realize all the elections are fake? That it's all about raw power grabs? Then there will always be a Rubicon.

Blogger Gypsy November 20, 2020 11:34 AM  

Good grief...why does Trump have to do everything alone?? How many votes did he get?? 70 million, 73 million, 100 million?? That's all we can expect from Americans at this point is a vote?? If so, you can all burn. But not for me and mine.

Blogger DonReynolds November 20, 2020 11:44 AM  

I am certain if there were ANY CRIME.... Federal, state, or local.... that could be remotely or possibly hung around Donald Trump's neck, it would be headlines in most of the newspapers and blot out all other news on the so-called television news channels, 24-7 until the marches and demonstrations could be scheduled and organized in every major city. Everyone would know every single detail of the crime, whatever it was, and the CFR citation, chapter and verse, and the names of each of the witnesses and their saintly background. But WE do not see that because there is no such crime.

In a pinch, no doubt they could write something in that blank space on the warrant. After all, they hafta have something to do the arrest, and "bad person" is not very specific, and "rude bastard" is not actually a crime. So they will have to get really creative and cook up something that even the Patriots will yell about.... like treason, or trying to overthrow the government of the United States, or failure to declare the George Floyd Federal holiday, or refusal to concede the crooked election, like he is supposed to. The charge is not very important anyway. What matters is whether he is found guilty in the Court of Public Opinion, which the Media rule as the Judges and Astroturf is the standard Jury. Like the Queen of Hearts, they have decided on the punishment even before they have the verdict.

Blogger James G. November 20, 2020 11:51 AM  

Correct Latin: ...transi Rubiconem.
"Transire" is the infinitive, "to cross" #CrosstheRubicon


I am literally LOL. Always count on someone to correct the Latin.

Blogger B November 20, 2020 11:54 AM  

The dominoes are already starting to wobble and tumble -- some to the left, some to the right. Nearly all MSM are starting to align with the forces of darkness, and that includes Fox and the Washington Times.

Yesterday, on the front page of the Washington Times, a non-lawyer (the Politics Editor) assessed the legal sufficiency of TGE's court filings and mocked them as laughably baseless, and then mocked Rudy Giuliani and TGE's lawyers as feckless idiots. The lawyer-wanna-be then poo-poohed threats against TGE's lawyers as bogus. His credentials as a legal scholar? A B.A in English from the University of Baltimore and a legal dictionary. That is representative of the incredibly low level of information analysis we can expect from even "conservative" news sources. There is absolutely no attempt to research and analyze, as Alexander Macris has done -- intellectually digesting the possibilities based on available evidence and assessing the likelihood of eventualities.

I am considering cancelling my subscription to the Washington Times.

Blogger Gypsy November 20, 2020 12:09 PM  

If you are a Southern Trump voter and are not storming Atlanta this weekend, then you are nothing and nobody.

Blogger Crew November 20, 2020 12:25 PM  

This may be the event that destroys the Union ...

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont November 20, 2020 12:26 PM  

"Let's settle it then right now:
"I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands; one nation, UNDER GOD, with liberty and justice for all."

I have never liked the pledge, because pledging allegiance to a flag means nothing more than pledging allegiance to the spirit of the day. My oath as an enlisted man and as an officer was as follows:

"I, *your name here*, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same..."

Where is the flag mentioned? It is not. My allegiance is to the Constitution of these United States, not some flag. The flag is a rallying point. The Constitution is a foundation.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 20, 2020 12:37 PM  

@25 Hey Kennymac bite me you reading challenged chump. At no point was I mewling or shilling. I'm absolutely on the side of the GE. Search the posts and comments and see for yourself. At no time have I black pilled.

Now, as to my comment above @16. I wasn't saying that the Chinese will invade us. As our kind host pointed out, that would be ridiculous ala Michelle Malkins Japanese invasion. What I was speculating on was arms from the Chinese to the leftoids, who per the original article linked above are outgunned by all of us.

Like the rest of us, I'm tired of this shit and would like to see the left killed off before they kill us off. I would absolutely do my part should the GE call up the irregular militia.

Blogger Manuel November 20, 2020 12:51 PM  

@48 Latin teacher here.
"I'm just tryyyyying to make sure everyone has correct grammar of classical languages!"

Blogger Delaware Blue Hen November 20, 2020 1:02 PM  

The Rubicon has not been crossed yet, and already we have some rats scurrying to get off the ship--there are reports (see Ace of Spades) that Dominion Voting Systems have backed out of attending a hearing by the PA House State Govt Committee that was set up to address accusations about their system being used for voter fraud.

Blogger grok November 20, 2020 1:21 PM  

there is another option that has a historical precedent. the sampson option.

Blogger tuberman November 20, 2020 1:22 PM  

34. Hammerli 280

Nope, you're wrong. Yes, he could have won the election (he could have stopped enough fraud to win), but this will be dozens of times larger then just this election. This is about bringing it all down world wide, and it will happen.

Blogger Unknown November 20, 2020 1:44 PM  

"Fiat justitia ruat caelum."

Let justice be done though the heavens fall.

Blogger Jack Amok November 20, 2020 1:59 PM  

They will certainly step into the void in other parts of the world.
And we care, why?


Exactly. Let the rest of the world blunder around in craptastic places full of semi-civilized problems for a while.

It might even be glorious. China getting involved in the ME could be beneficial for both the Chinese and the Arabs. The Arabs might learn to behave a little better if their occupied by a power that just doesn't care, and the Chinese might remember why they've historically isolated themselves from the barbarians in the rest of the world.

Blogger DonReynolds November 20, 2020 2:07 PM  

Crew wrote:This may be the event that destroys the Union ...

Look at it as an opportunity that may not ever present itself again. On January 20th, 2021, swear in BOTH Trump and Bidet as President. Trump can be president of the Red States and Bidet can be president of the Blue States.

C'mon man. WE are going to end up doing it anyway. What better occasion than a contested Federal election to get the ball rolling?

Since the District of Columbia is surrounded by Blue States, let Trump and the Red Staters build their own new capital, somewhere more appropriate and convenient. Give people a year or two to vote with their feet. You go your way. I go mine. What could be more Fair and less destructive (than another civil war)?

Blogger Hammerli 280 November 20, 2020 2:46 PM  

@60: The problem with partition is that there are not that many Red states or Blue states. The division lines are inside the states, sometimes inside counties.

A workable plan for partition would have to start with the county-by-county maps, then tweak the lines. And there would be areas that might have to be abandoned because they are cut off.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it would require a level of cooperation that would probably make a partition unnecessary if it existed.

Blogger Original H November 20, 2020 2:56 PM  

Hammerli 280 wrote:I expect Trump to fight this out in the courts, but nothing further.

If that's what you think, you clearly haven't followed the Q posts.

James G. wrote:I am literally LOL. Always count on someone to correct the Latin.

But of course! And on that line, wouldn't it be: "Iace alea et transi Rubiconem"?

Blogger pyrrhus November 20, 2020 3:06 PM  

Yes, Trump is sending a warning. Long overdue. Make the cheaters and crooks think long and hard about what they've done and if they're ready to go to federal prison - or possibly the stockade?

Much better would be the Sukarno solution....

Blogger Akulkis November 20, 2020 3:11 PM  

India & Pakistan have been trading villages of Hindus & Moslems for 50 tears now, to get them located on the proper side of the partitions. And it will take another 100 at the current rate.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 20, 2020 3:26 PM  

@30 Unknown: if pushed to it he will. Your Wormtongue routine is wearing thin.

Blogger Balam November 20, 2020 3:48 PM  

''If he prevails, then the left will rebel.''
You say that as if they haven't already
-burning down cities
-burning down the west coast forests and looting the evacuated towns
-enemy uniform and banner (antifa and blm)
-enemy propaganda 24/7 control of the airwaves
-buying weapons from foreign agents (China) for domestic use
-selling state secrets to foreign agents (China and Isreal at the minimum)
-open declarations they will not follow law
-self declared sovereignty over captured territory (covid laws defying federal law and lockdowns)
-voter fraud pushing illegitimate rulers
That's just off the cuff. What else could you possibly need to call this a rebellion?

Blogger Jack Amok November 20, 2020 3:56 PM  

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it would require a level of cooperation that would probably make a partition unnecessary if it existed.

Exactly. Including "cooperation" achieved at the barrel of a gun. And that doesn't even get into the issue of the Blue archipelago consisting mostly of administrative/banking functions with minimal productive capability. Even if Bluetopia got to keep enough farmland to feed themselves, who would farm it? I suppose they'd rely on immigrants, but even that isn't working out in CA's Central Valley.

Blue State cosmopolitans in their city enclaves create such a chaotic mess of laws and financial corruption that the irrigation system is unreliable (historically one of the most important functions of a government), and crime goes so unpunished that gangs simply dismantle the highly dispersed infrastructure needed for large-scale agriculture and sell it for scrap.

And Bluetopia would either have to shoot their environmentalists or else be so energy-dependent on RedUSA as to be... well, eventually they'd run out of ability to pay for it.

Anyway, we have a long, long history of blue believers fleeing (emigrating from) areas of blue control and relocating (immigrating) to areas of red control. Talk about needing a wall.

Partition is in the long run unworkable because a Blue America would be an absolutely intolerable neighbor. They would export problems like any other third-world country, only we'd share a massive border with them.

Blogger kennymac November 20, 2020 4:14 PM  

@53 Jeff aka Orville, that wasn't directed at you, whoever it was must've deleted their comment. Should've referenced the POS's name instead of comment number. sorry for the confusion.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 20, 2020 4:22 PM  

@30 Unknown: if pushed to it he will.
I surely hope you're right. I'm cool with that being his last resort, as long as it's on his list. Trump is infinitely more likely to be a Cincinatus than any other potential dictator we have available.

Blogger Newscaper312 November 20, 2020 4:31 PM  

Perfect example... Might have to carve a new black majority homeland out of a chunk of east MS, central AL into GA. Another big pocket in SC by that might not be contiguous enough.
If you look at election maps those are a big cluster of blue rural counties w large black populations. If a goal is separation while reducing disruption that might be a place to start.

Blogger Unknown November 20, 2020 5:08 PM  

Did the author come up with the rubicon parallel or did he read VD's previous reference to it and expand upon it?

Blogger Crew November 20, 2020 5:11 PM  

I am sure the Democrats will introduce a bill into the next congress that makes it not a crime for Democrats to cheat in elections.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey November 20, 2020 5:53 PM  

Manuel wrote:@48 Latin teacher here.

"I'm just tryyyyying to make sure everyone has correct grammar of classical languages!"


Thank Heaven itself for Latin teachers. The sterner the better. Otherwise this wouldn't be funny:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2hwqlt

"Now, if it's not done sunrise, I'll cut your balls off."

Blogger Edjamacator November 20, 2020 6:17 PM  

Mr Smith wrote:Hail Caesar, we who are about to die salute you!

Don't die for your country. Make the left die for your country.

Blogger Johnny November 20, 2020 6:22 PM  

The Liberals are spreading their "What To Do" with a list of tactics. This'll be their handbook if anything shakes out:

https://wagingnonviolence.org/2020/09/10-things-you-need-to-know-to-stop-a-coup/?fbclid=IwAR0vgTtyJTgjhck3NB9VAd-srgK5xy9K4BOXuf0cq-tCNYnXLcH09dwnEJk

Blogger Jack Amok November 20, 2020 6:37 PM  

Did the author come up with the rubicon parallel or did he read VD's previous reference to it and expand upon it?

No slight to Vox, but the Rubicon parallel is pretty obvious to anyone who knows Roman history and has been paying attention lately.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 20, 2020 6:52 PM  

No problem Kennymac. Glad we are on the same team

Blogger Leahn Novash November 20, 2020 7:11 PM  

Persecuting Hillary would have led to nowhere. Corrupt laywers, corrupt judges. She would never see a day in hail. Rather, she would have left vindicated. Also, stop the black pill. We don't buy it here.

Blogger Leahn Novash November 20, 2020 7:13 PM  

Prison won't do. They will leave. The law always has multiple breaches that can be exploited.

Blogger Didas Kalos November 20, 2020 7:39 PM  

@edjumacator now that's a plan I can get behind. Tally-ho

Blogger Paulito November 20, 2020 8:40 PM  

@30 Cuck off, blackpiller.

Blogger Dire Badger November 20, 2020 9:53 PM  

The biggest problem is that, if Trump evokes the insurrection act, how long will it be until UN forces start arriving on US soil?

Blogger Unknown November 20, 2020 11:07 PM  

Every man under 45 has gotta be happy? You can be in the militia. Can you imagine if the militia is called up? Just the veterans under 45 alone could make up a formidable force. Veterans could make up the NCO corps of it. Police and sheriffs the officers and senior NCOs.

They don't even have to be fully armed militias. Just property and infrastructure guards and riot squads.

The question of what to do with leftwing deadenders, I believe the answer is labor camps. Labor camps are like military boot camp but for learning life skills and getting deprogrammed from globohomo mind control.

I can even see a place for Catholic monasteries in the labor camp system. Ora et Labora. They would live a life of work, contemplation, education, discipline, and they would attend 2 or 3 chanting/worship sessions a day. Sing the psalms and ask for God's healing grace. After say, 9 months, they will be reborn and given a chance at redemption.

If they can't live properly, and start burning, looting, and murdering, they can sit in prison for a long time or worse.

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 20, 2020 11:16 PM  

UN forces invading US soil would do a marvelous job of rallying wishy-washy Americans behind President Trump.

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey November 20, 2020 11:23 PM  

Hammerli 280 wrote:I hate to disagree, but if Trump had the nerve to cross the Rubicon, he would not NEED to cross the Rubicon.

Trump has a weakness. Underneath the gruff exterior, he's a Nice Man. And that niceness has prevented him from moving forcefully against the Seditious Conspiracy. Or arresting Joe Biden at the first Presidential debate on Bribery charges.

Had he done either, the election would have been a foregone conclusion.


Do you know about Julius Caesar's legendary sense of clemency and forgiveness? He was quite famous for it. It was his undoing in fact.

Even nice guys cross a Rubicon as it happens.

Blogger Jack Amok November 21, 2020 1:14 AM  

The biggest problem is that, if Trump evokes the insurrection act, how long will it be until UN forces start arriving on US soil?

Bwwahahahahahaha. That's a good one.

Without the US military, the UN doesn't have enough combat troops to deal with the night life of Chicago, let alone anything more sporty. And that's assuming they could even get here. The US Navy would sink them far off shore, if nothing else then by accidental ramming.

Blogger Stilicho November 21, 2020 1:29 AM  

>>Veterans could make up the NCO corps of it. Police and sheriffs the officers and senior NCOs<<

Just stop. No self-respecting veteran is going to take orders from a slimy civilian cop. You don't have a clue.

Blogger Akulkis November 21, 2020 2:33 AM  

>> The biggest problem is that, if Trump evokes the insurrection act, how long will it be until UN forces start arriving on US soil?

By what means of conveyance? Short of a fleet of passenger liners and attending ships similar to WW2 LSTs, LSIs, and LCTs and LCIs, exactly how are these foreign troops going to come? Using Canada or Mexico as a staging point? If either one allowed such a thing to happen, we would have an armored corps in the offender's capital in less than a week, and an armored brigades at any attempted transfer/staging areas (for example: Vancouver, Brit. Columbia) within 2 days. The erstwhile invader's lead elements would be equipped with only what they are can fly across the ocean (or in the case of China, from the Canal Zone in Panama) in mass transport aircraft (C-130, Ç-5, AN-12 Cub [Russian or Chinese kick-off], or the like) full of infantry.

The left has, since at least the 1980s, if not longer, had this perpetual wet dream that when they finally get off their worthless asses and overthrow society and the government, that the Chinese will provide the manpower with rifles to do their killing for them. Of course, one boatload of Chunky soldiers approaching the West coast is going to attract a significant response by rocket, and God forbid if one actually sneaked into, say, the Port of Los Angeles, I am sure that any sitting president would rather nuke it immediately (even a small one will create enough of a tsunami to completely destroy the port and a good portion of the city) to both eliminate the immediate threat, and to dissuade any other port city from welcoming any ship full of Commie invaders.

It's not impossible, but it would be damn near impossible for a foreign power like China to actually pull it off successfully. And as bad as our navy is, every other navy of comparable assets (hull counts and hull types) is in even worse shape than ours, and the Chinese navy is materially deficient in number of hulls, quality of hulls, and qualitatively deficient in personnel and training. Even if they had 3 aircraft carrier hulls fully ready to go, it would be another 10 years before they could put a 2-carrier battleground beyond a few hundred miles from shore in wartime and have even the slightest hope of even on ship in the battleground arriving at the desired location to carry out its mission, let alone returning back to a Chinese port.

The Japs are much faster learner's than the Chinks, and look how poorly their navy (both personnel and hulls) performed, due to training (personnel) and design (ships) deficiencies due to not having CENTURIES of experience protecting trans-oceanic trade and intercontintal power projection.

Japan was the first nation to conduct aviation operations from an aircraft carrier (supplied by the British), and we're very tight with the British Navy (most of their ships built before 1930 came from English shipyards), and yet their domestically built ships were utter crap. Their aircraft carriers were molotov cocktails just waiting for a match. 95% or more of their crewmen had no damage control training (firefighting, securing watertight doors, applying patches to leaking, high-pressure water pipes, etc.) as the Japs made it a separate MOS, and ship's captains minimized their damage control personnel to nearly nothing, as they were considered "useless eaters" with no other function. Once damage control personnel were needed, they were usually positioned in locations where they couldn't even apply their skills to save their own ships. In contrast, all western navies trained every sailor in all aspects of damage control, as the best men to conduct damage control are the personnel who are right next to the damage.

Blogger jarheadljh November 21, 2020 2:35 AM  

Dire Badger wrote:The biggest problem is that, if Trump evokes the insurrection act, how long will it be until UN forces start arriving on US soil?

That depends entirely on when the US Air Force, Navy, and Space Force are given the order to allow them to. I don't know where you live, but do you see any invasion forces standing around waiting to board a ship heading here? All troop deployments TAKE TIME and they are generally difficult to hide when the opponent can see you from orbit. The US military would have that same amount of time to prepare a greeting. Don't kid yourself, China may be able to hold a carrier-group at bay, but guess what, so can we.

So if it's Trump invoking the Insurrection Act, I'd expect the UN to wag it's finger in admonishment. Perhaps a strongly worded letter and a toothless threat to someday consider some kind of minor sanctions.

Blogger Akulkis November 21, 2020 2:39 AM  

"Did the author come up with the rubicon parallel or did he read VD's previous reference to it and expand upon it?"

You know, the phrase "crossing the Rubicon" has been a phrase throughout the western world since before Christ was born.

There's no need to plagiarize from Vox a phrase that is over 2000 years old.

Blogger Phillip November 21, 2020 3:58 AM  

I have thought for years that the potential of our current society devolving to the Hunger Games was eerily teetering on the precipice of reality. Sadly, I feel validated.

Blogger Unknown November 21, 2020 4:55 AM  

The one thing that's always bugged me is our Commie overlords have never been able to properly articulate what charges they would actually bring. They had plenty of chance during the impeachment, but produced nothing of substance.

Sometimes the Rubicon NEEDS to be crossed to show everyone what a sham the system has become. With luck, Trump will be every bit the great man he wants history to remember him as. By God, we put him in this position. May God guide him.

Blogger Voracious Reader November 21, 2020 10:16 AM  

What a simply marvelous find of an article, Vox. Thank you for posting it. Wow.

I have been assuming that an Insurrection Act declaration would require actual combat/violence to occur. It looks like that is not needed for the certification to be invoked by the White House. The mere scale of what was attempted by the hard Left on 3 Nov is enough.

"Stroke of a pen, law of the land." Wow.

Mr. Macris did not discuss the political follow-up under Amd. 14, Sec. 3, if a "rebellion" is officially declared. The states in rebellion lose their Congressional delegations and all Electoral College votes, too.

No more Nancy Pelosi or Chuck Schumer (or the vile Adam Schiff) to gum up the works. (Mr. McCarthy is out of a job temporarily, but will be back because of the following actions.)

The probable states in question in rebellion (most likely CA, OR, WA, IL and NY) will also have to be readmitted to the Union, such as what the former CSA states were required to do for the 1870s Reconstruction period.

Reconstruction lasted 11 years. There is no reason why these states in rebellion have to rejoin the US anytime soon; they will have to clean up their act, which most easily means deportations and loss of citizenship.

For the conservative areas of those states which were not in rebellion, there is the SCOTUS-tested WV option of 1863. Meaning we may have 5-6 new U.S. states by next summer. And not DC or PR.

Say hello (finally) to the State of Jefferson, carved out of northern CA and southern OR. And Central Valley CA, upper NY, southern IL, E. Washington, and E. Oregon. And 10-12 new GOP U.S. Senators, too.

Think of the legislative opportunities in Congress that lie ahead...they are simply breathtaking. _Everything_ good is within reach.

Talk about a Presidential legacy! Even Grover Cleveland couldn't top Trump for a lasting political change of this scale. And all handed to him by the degenerate Left.

Historians are going to want to know just when this phase was planned. I bet those books will not be able to be written until the late 2030s because of the nature of Exec Branch classifications.

I am so glad I found this website 12+ years ago. It has been a beacon of intelligence in a vast wasteland of stupidity and failure.

Blogger Voracious Reader November 21, 2020 10:26 AM  

@16

Do you think Mr. Putin would not want to lend a helping hand to FREEFOR? Good thing all of us decent, God-fearing Americans can now field-strip a Kalashnikov. It will be easy to figure out a PK-series or a SA-25.

Russia saved our Union before, in 1862, with two Imperial Navy port visits to San Fran and NYC. Looks like they could do it again. (They'll want something for such minor assistance, of course. Nothing in life is free.)

Blogger mpm2020 November 21, 2020 10:54 AM  

GOD has the mission under control, Trump is the instrument He will use to correct the situation. Have Faith !

Blogger Akulkis November 21, 2020 10:58 AM  

"Veterans could make up the NCO corps of it. Police and sheriffs the officers and senior NCOs.”

No veteran is going to take orders from people who train AND DO use an entire magazine of bullets against even unarmed individuals.

Cops don't train for war, or how to operate against large numbers of armed OPFOR. Cops train to escalate against the unprepared and the tactically helpless.

The only thing they really know how to do is ambush. If they don't have an ambush against their for, they drop like flies.

And since they all give each other a pass on lawbreaking, whereas soldiers hold each other to behavioral standards, you're nuts if you think any veteran is going to subordinate himself to the bullies in blue.

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 21, 2020 11:11 AM  

Interesting that Congress removed the limits on the president's powers in the Insurrection Act in late 2006, just two years before Obama would be elected. And at that point they may have thought it would be Clinton. Makes you wonder what they thought they might want him or her to do with it.

Blogger The Last Roman November 21, 2020 7:45 PM  

It's going to look like Spain during the Moorish conquest and Spain during its civil war. As in the former scenario (((traitors))) will aid foreign invaders. As in the latter, zones of control will be carved out after a few months of fighting. Expect the commmies and anarchists to push our people out of the large coastal regions. We will regroup in the small towns and agrarian regions. Chinese fifth columns will open the doors in the NW. Latin communists will do so in the SW. It's going to be a real shit-show.

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa November 21, 2020 9:59 PM  

@70 Newscaper312: "Might have to carve a new black majority homeland out of a chunk of east MS, central AL into GA. Another big pocket in SC by that might not be contiguous enough.
If you look at election maps those are a big cluster of blue rural counties w large black populations. If a goal is separation while reducing disruption that might be a place to start."

Hey partner, let's not start with ceding geography just yet. Especially when I can guarantee you the peace will only last long enough for MS-13 to get kitted out and prepped by Soros Inc. for raids/incursions into our space.

I'm guessing you haven't studied history and/or don't have kids.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 22, 2020 12:35 AM  

Chief_Tuscaloosa wrote:Hey partner, let's not start with ceding geography just yet.
Chief, minorities can have exclusive homelands anywhere, six feet down.

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa November 22, 2020 1:07 PM  

@100 Ominous Cowherd,

Dude, what's rule #1 of Fight Club?

Blogger Catchthefox November 23, 2020 4:31 AM  

Lefties ARE cromwellians. The modern left directly descends from the same english low church scum that gave us Cromwell; with a good nice extra helping of sabbatean jews and moriscos.

Blogger Catchthefox November 23, 2020 4:42 AM  

Yikes, pretty gamma of you to act like correcting grammar is some kind of act of aggression and expression of deep seated insecurity! Sorry sweaty I just could never do that~!

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