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Monday, November 23, 2020

OK, Boomer

Rush Limbaugh's booming about bombshells is because he doesn't understand what the various legal teams are telling everyone.

Limbaugh recalled that Team Trump seemed like they were about to release devastating evidence for their legal case, but the radio host was underwhelmed.

You call a gigantic press conference like that — one that lasts an hour — and you announce massive bombshells, then you better have some bombshells. There better be something at that press conference other than what we got…I talked to so many people who were blown away by it, by the very nature of the press conference. They promised blockbuster stuff and then nothing happened, and that’s just, it’s not good.

The evidence is devastating. We know the programmer who developed the vote-stealing routine. We know the Serbian team that programmed the software. We know what companies were involved and where their servers were located. We know the algorithm. We can replicate the vote totals as they were recorded. We can match the vote-switching to the data feed that went out to the media networks with the recordings of the media broadcasts.

But Rush is underwhelmed, because he's a Boomer who doesn't know how to use his iPhone and has absolutely no clue about what any of this all means, even though the lawyers have boiled it down to the simplest possible explanation.

MILLIONS OF TRUMP VOTES WERE SHIFTED TO BIDEN BY VOTING MACHINE SOFTWARE.

It's infuriating that these media morons a) won't accept the simple statement without evidence, then b) reject the evidence because it's too complicated for them.

FFS, the mere fact that Stratamatic and Dominion are blatantly lying about who owns what technology and where it is should be enough to convince any rational being with an IQ over 100 that they are, at a bare minimum, trying to hide something in response to the vote-shifting allegations. Whether that is enough will have to wait for the relevant court filings and eventual investigations, but it's pretty freaking huge to produce evidence that the CIA has been manipulating elections everywhere from the Philippines to Venezuela for years using voting machines, and that it appears to have been manipulating US elections too.

I'm pretty sure that it will be revealed that they did it in 2018 too. I always wondered how my 2016 model inexplicably broke down halfway through the 2018 election, when all the early results pointed one way and then reversed after 3 AM.

And remember, all that is needed to prove the alleged scenario contra the various denials is internet packets containing election data going to any servers outside the United States on November 3rd. That's the smoking gun, and I would assume the NSA, at the very least, has it.

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190 Comments:

Blogger MichaelJMaier November 23, 2020 6:37 PM  

This is one damned retarded year. I really hope Europe starts lynching their "leaders" soon.

Blogger Enjcj November 23, 2020 6:39 PM  

Dumbass boomers. The only reason they're still in power is due to their sheer numbers, other than that they're outdated, obsolete, arrogant, and simultaneously opinionated/naive idiots. Doesn't explain Tucker's situation though.

Blogger Jeroth November 23, 2020 6:43 PM  

Why has Trump approved the implementation of transition protocols? Why do anything that would lower morale at this point?

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 23, 2020 6:44 PM  

People like Rush have let the media set the bar for "evidence" and "bombshell" so high that it would take a video of Biden, Harris, Soros, and the Clintons marking ballots with baby blood to impress them.

Blogger Crew November 23, 2020 6:45 PM  

ZeroHedge is reporting that Trump has told the GSA to let the Biden Transition proceed.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-tells-gsa-allow-biden-transition-proceed-best-interest-our-country

I wonder what precautions he has taken against being hounded if he loses ...

Blogger 1100 November 23, 2020 6:46 PM  

A lot of people with an IQ over 100 are not good at understanding logic or related concepts. My nature is to assume that everybody around me understands what I do. But, all I have to do to disprove that assumption is open my mouth and share an observation. We have to keep reminding ourselves that what seems obvious to us may not even possible for a lot of other people to grasp.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine November 23, 2020 6:47 PM  

" always wondered how my 2016 model inexplicably broke down halfway through the 2018 election, when all the early results pointed one way and then reversed after 3 AM."

"Blue Wave" of Fraud.

Blogger doctrev November 23, 2020 6:50 PM  

Hmmm. Do you think the CIA manipulated the Venezuelan elections? Because Powell's affidavit from a senior Venezuelan official stated that Maduro used an election night shutdown to rig the election in his favor. Can't imagine why the CIA would risk rigging an election if they were that comfortable with either Maduro or the opposition winning.

NB: Of course I know that the CIA rigged this election- that's too obvious to even dispute.

Blogger Fozzy Bear November 23, 2020 6:51 PM  

None of the commentariat seem to have kept watching long enough to listen to Dr Jenna Ellis, who clearly said that the press conference was their opening statement only, and that they would continue to develop and present evidence in the appropriate forums at the appropriate time.

Reading between the lines, the reason the Trump campaign and the RNC have to keep Powell and Wood at arms length is that they are going to allege that Brian Kemp corruptly stole the 2018 gubernatorial election, and that Stacy Abrams is the rightful governor of Georgia.

Blogger MATT November 23, 2020 6:55 PM  

He states in the tweet "she has been harrassed, threatened, abused.."

Who knows? Marshall on.

For all we know, GSA will screw with the Biden admin.

Blogger Quietpaw123 animal jam! November 23, 2020 6:59 PM  

The Tucker situation could be that he is eyeing a run in 2024 and is throwing shade on Trump who is a potential opponent.

Or he “took the ticket”. Either way he has seriously damaged his credibility.

Blogger Cedric November 23, 2020 6:59 PM  

I think it just lets Biden have some money, it doesn't really mean much at this point.

Now that things have settled a bit and we have more information, nobody is going to suddenly start thinking it's legitimate. The purpose of them wanting some GSA recognition was to get legitimacy during the first stretch, which has passed by now.

Blogger Unknown November 23, 2020 7:00 PM  

Right now, the establishment will throw everything at us. A co-ordinated gaslighting extravaganza of disinformation. Crooked, and incompetent alike, will sing their Siren song. Ignore it all. Trump is going to win a historic victory, not just electorally - but spiritually.

Blogger Chris McCullough November 23, 2020 7:00 PM  

I recall Fox pulling the same nonesense calling the house for the dems with less than half the votes tallied.

Blogger brbrophy November 23, 2020 7:01 PM  

Bill Binney and Kirk Weibe have done an excellent job explaining this stuff with the LaRouche PAC & Schiller Institute. They’re on the same page as us. They know the true voting can be easily found

Blogger Silent Draco November 23, 2020 7:02 PM  

3am EST (R) is 0900 (A) in Frankfurt. Start the day right by shifting votes. One packet moving election data from a US domain to a server outside is sufficient. It's never one packet.

Two bits, four bit, six bits, an agent ...

"The Cuckoo's Egg" is the story of how the first Internet spy ring was broken in the late 1980s. The cause was prosaic enough: a $0.75 accounting error in computer timesharing charges on a machine at Lawrence Berkeley Lab. Some digging showed that a user was logging in, switching to superuser privilege's, and then back-wiping the official records of his presence. He never knew there was a home-brew accounting system running in tandem with the official one, so didn't know to wipe its records too. That's where the discrepancy appeared, and where the tracing began. Two years of tracing, data collection, and laying traps let them catch the spies while connected online in West Germany.

Simply add 30 years to the timeframe, including the time to prepare and lay the traps; trace down organizations and tech; and get the right enforcers lined up at the right time; and keep information compartmented to avoid spooking the prey.

Blogger Wes350 November 23, 2020 7:03 PM  

Jeroth wrote:Why has Trump approved the implementation of transition protocols? Why do anything that would lower morale at this point?

He says why he did it. Emily Murphy of the GSA was being harassed and threatened.

And it makes no difference to the end result.

Might be an indication that Biden's side have shown they will not concede or take a deal. So why not let them get their hopes up...

Blogger Tanjil Bren November 23, 2020 7:04 PM  

"A lot of people with an IQ over 100 are not good at understanding logic or related concepts."

You said it.

It struck me some time ago that critical thinking (and even the recognition of same), as a learned cognitive skill, has been deliberately undermined for decades.

(Of course, one should never underestimate a simpler explanation: that the teaching profession has been populated with cretins who are simply unable to grasp the concept themselves, let alone effectively communicate it.)

Blogger Doktor Jeep November 23, 2020 7:09 PM  

What the boomers want is for all this to be resolved in one episode so they can get on with their lives (of self absorbtion). They have interests, hobbies, and TV shows to watch.

They don't understand. All we wanted was to play video games. Now this is our video game. And its apparent that the ride never ends, and there is no such thing as "happily ever after". That line is in fairy tales for a reason. There won't be some dramatic moment where evil is vanquished and nice music plays and the guy gets the girl. Evil just assumes new names and shapes, the music sucks because its post modern bullshit, and the girl is a fat roastie.

The boomers don't want conflict. They sold out the entire future of a civilization just to go along and get along and have fancy pants.

Every Gen Xer I know feels more alive than ever.

Blogger Gregory the Tall November 23, 2020 7:10 PM  

https://youtu.be/6-om0MA3g8w
In the meantime another big hoax is starting to get legally attacked worldwide. RT Interview with lawyer Dr. Fuellmich who has just filed the first of many lawsuits regarding the fake PCR tests.

Blogger FUBARwest November 23, 2020 7:10 PM  

There is a shift away from Dominion and all that connects to from public defenders of Trump. Not sure what it means in relation to the transition news, and the tweet about Powell. With December 14th rapidly approaching, everyone will know if 2033 was optimism on our host's part or not.

Blogger doctrev November 23, 2020 7:13 PM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:What the boomers want is for all this to be resolved in one episode so they can get on with their lives (of self absorbtion). They have interests, hobbies, and TV shows to watch.

They don't understand. All we wanted was to play video games. Now this is our video game. And its apparent that the ride never ends, and there is no such thing as "happily ever after". That line is in fairy tales for a reason. There won't be some dramatic moment where evil is vanquished and nice music plays and the guy gets the girl.


Says you. I'm going to be blasting the more triumphant soundtracks at the hangings, and goodness knows there will be enough of those.

Blogger Timmy3 November 23, 2020 7:13 PM  

Michigan certified their votes after one Republican changed his mind. Doesn’t matter that the evidence is there when the Judges won’t consider them. I can only wonder what’s Trump’s next step.

Blogger Outis November 23, 2020 7:13 PM  

"It's infuriating that these media morons a) won't accept the simple statement without evidence, then b) reject the evidence because it's too complicated for them."

Barely 20 minutes ago, I was at my local watering hole, listening in on a local newspaper reporter pontificate to a handful of dilapidated female boomers, deep in their wine cups, on how he read the Pennsylvania ruling dismissing Trump's claims which he summarised as follows:
"Trump made two arguments. His first was that there was discrimination in the treatment of vote tally overseers. He produced zero evidence of this. His second argument was more complicated, such that I couldn't f***ing understand it; something about illegal votes."

You were spot on.

Blogger Anonymous White Male November 23, 2020 7:15 PM  

I happened to be listening to Rush the other day in my car. Not that I do on a regular basis, but it was between 11AM and 1PM which is when he is on in my area. He was promoting someone's theory that Obama was the mastermind behind the election fraud and exclaiming how right it was and how he's been saying Obama is behind the anti-Trump opposition for years now. Who in their right mind would think that a mulatto with about a 100 IQ and can't speak without a teleprompter would be any kind of mastermind? Rush promotes the dialectic. While seemingly nice and on the side of Trump, I don't think he can be trusted.

Blogger urthshu November 23, 2020 7:18 PM  

I completely agree the election was stolen and most damnably through the dominion software. What I'm having trouble with currently - it's a complex situation - is Powell not being part of the team and "representing the people" on her own. I don't know a lot about standing. Would she be able to establish that? Or is she aiming for something else?

Blogger Bobo #117 November 23, 2020 7:19 PM  

Probably just the chemo talkin'

Blogger Unknown November 23, 2020 7:20 PM  

One thing I know, if Trump does get ousted, many parties will be embarrassed over their certainty of his victory. Myself included. If EB Farnum does not win, my Deadwood "Map of Meaning" will need to be greatly reconsidered.

But however this election ends, it does go to show that we can't put our faith into individual men, or political parties.

Blogger Brett baker November 23, 2020 7:21 PM  

Maybe Georgia deserves it?

Blogger dangerdog November 23, 2020 7:22 PM  

"And it makes no difference to the end result."

Exactly. Trump has not conceeded the election and that's all that counts at the moment.

Blogger RobertDWood November 23, 2020 7:23 PM  

Limbaugh is a great example of a midwit+ who can 'punch down' to an average and below level effectively and is then completely lost when faced with real complexity.

The reason he can reach so many people with boomer-con is the same reason Vox doesn't: IQ deltas matter in communication. Get past 15 iq points in the spread and the conversations become very short.

Blogger Brett baker November 23, 2020 7:24 PM  

"The road goes on forever and the party never ends" as the boomer country tune says.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 23, 2020 7:25 PM  

The Doomspeaking is getting to my family. When we win it will be epic. The bigger they are, the harder they fall, and the more glorious the final victory for those who held steadfast in their hope that justice would prevail.

Blogger Weak November 23, 2020 7:26 PM  

Rush isn't wrong about public perception. MPAI. They want to see shocking obvious evidence like it would happen on a tv show. Real life isn't a tv show, but MPAI, and those normies want to see the NCIS style big reveal.

Rush is right that Team Trump is losing the public perception battle because these aren't bombshells the way normies perceive bombshells.

If they have some margin, it would be wise to spend it on something that normies can be amazed by. Because public perception also matters for leadership.

Blogger Jeroth November 23, 2020 7:29 PM  

Wes350 wrote:And it makes no difference to the end result.

It makes sense if supporter morale is completely irrelevant to this fight, but it is going to be interpreted as the end by most normies. I don't think it is the end, but morale is certainly going to plummet. I suppose it could be a culling of the weak.

Blogger tublecane November 23, 2020 7:32 PM  

Limbaugh was a guy who said in the earliest days of the Iraq invasion that the Democrat Party would be embarrassed and out of power for a generation. Maybe more; I don't exactly remember. Despite the fact that Democrats voted overwhelmingly for war. Because...I don't know. They'd be like people who thought the Japanese were decent folk who didn't want no trouble before Pearl Harbor.

Point being, he thinks I'm terms of giant, sweeping consensus-formation. Like a good consumer of mass media. The country turned against Nixon, for instance. If some holdouts didn't, they were reluctant to say so.

The Reagan Landslide happened, even if it didn't amount to much. As did the Newt Wave. Again, if it didn't amount to much. The MSM couldn't deny their existence. They had to talk about them as real.

That's what's real to Limbaugh.

Blogger The Lab Manager November 23, 2020 7:35 PM  

I think those of us who can read and able to write/speak in complete sentences know it's all there, but I have to admit even I'm a bit impatient. I watched the 1.5 hour news conference and picked up on some of the appearances of Rudy and Sidney and Jenna. Even without the Dominion software issue, there is plenty of damning stuff to lead any decent person to reject the election results.

I've read over some of the affidavits and legal filings in PA, MI, from last week or so. I would imagine putting together a 40 to 100 page legal document outlining your case takes some smarts and probably not an easy task even with experience and in the tight timelines to work with right now.

It's disgusting that the GOP in Georgia is dragging it's butt taking action. The GOP has been worthless overall as usual. If these 'changes' to the voting rules are allowed to stand in any of these states, this is simply further acceleration to the end of this country. There will NO 2022 or 2024 to rectify things.

Meanwhile, the pedo-elect is on record to appointing every traitorous NWO/CFR SOB he can find to fill possible cabinet positions if this fraud stands. Too bad I don't have enough money to live above this crap and can only hope Biden voters get some sort of karmic justice good and hard.

Blogger Canada78Bear November 23, 2020 7:35 PM  

Well NSA and Putin's team. He hasn't bent the knee to Biden as he knows.

Gambling companies haven't paid out either.

December is going to be off the charts entertaining as Sidney Powell is financially independent force apart from Trump.

Blogger Ruby November 23, 2020 7:37 PM  

The average person with an IQ of 130+ can think for themselves. The average person between 120 and 130 cannot. If 100 is the average, the average person cannot understand the evidence or what is going on. Trump will be reelected this steal was way to childish.

Blogger [Redacted] November 23, 2020 7:39 PM  

Conservative media exists to distract Boomers long enough until they die, and their remaining wealth and influence squandered on ridiculous nonsense. Rush knows, but is presenting the information to maximize the rage and despair because he is a Boomer. He comes from a time where such practices can be afforded, and is perpetually deluded that America is forever, and no lasting damage can be done.

Blogger cisbio November 23, 2020 7:41 PM  

Dear Mr Mod,

You're doing a grand job

Blogger LR27 November 23, 2020 7:44 PM  

I have a knack for math and have absolutely no idea how normal people can actually be so stupid. The giant stack of 138,000 Biden votes won't sway these people. I don't know if they're lying, retarded, or just have their soul switched off.

Blogger S1AL November 23, 2020 7:47 PM  

"Doesn't explain Tucker's situation though."

Call me naive if you like, but maybe Tucker was just angling for the scoop and didn't get it.

Blogger tuberman November 23, 2020 7:48 PM  

Rush, of course, has a high IQ, but as has been mentioned on here before by me, Avalanche, and a some others... Rush is batting for the other team.

For a bit, I was silly enough to think he had a change of heart, but he was just waiting for this time. I know personally from direct experience that he's comped and always has been, but for now the obvious: he never tackles anything critical or even close, and he always picks easy targets similar to say Ben Shipiru to attack, although slightly better then him. He always still says good things about people like the Bush Family, and etc. He IS In the Big Club.

Blogger Tanjil Bren November 23, 2020 7:50 PM  

"...Many parties will be embarrassed over their certainty of his victory."

Why? He did win it, and in a landslide, just as predicted.

Blogger Sillon November 23, 2020 7:51 PM  

It seems that almost everybody in the media and the political establishment is hell bent on ignoring or not understanding reality and just moving on.

As in who cares, maybe "The game was rigged from the start" and we're somehow fully aware of it and we do not care this is how it is.

IMHO at the very least if I was the establishment I would allow the fraud to be blamed on a software scapegoat; "See silly Trump supporters it was just a software fault..."

If anybody in the west is thinking that anything good is going to come out of "letting this pass as if nothing of importance happened" and people will just forget, they're realy mistaken and they will end lamenting it.

Blogger RMH in StL November 23, 2020 7:52 PM  

Considering most Federal Judges are certainly Boomers, it will need to be spelled out to them better than Rudy probably can.

Blogger Crush Limbraw November 23, 2020 7:54 PM  

I get the distinct impression that most of the folks here think the final decision - courts or whatever - has something to do with logic.
Since when?

Blogger Fishslinger_Bear November 23, 2020 7:55 PM  

I stopped listening to him a couple years ago. Started listening again just before the election just to get a sense of what was going on from his perspective. It was hard to listen to him today, lost and confused about what is really happening. I went back to The War Room where I should have been. Rush cemented his boomer credentials when he started professing his love for the iPhone. Should have left him then and never went back. He offers nothing more now than an occasional boost of moral for, as he puts it, "the low information" crowd. I wish him well.

Blogger tuberman November 23, 2020 7:55 PM  

>> And remember, all that is needed to prove the alleged scenario contra the various denials is internet packets containing election data going to any servers outside the United States on November 3rd. That's the smoking gun, and I would assume the NSA, at the very least, has it.

There was picture of Trump and his people all at computers watching the election on November 3rd, and over night into the 4th. They weren't following the networks, as they were watch actual election data as it moved and flowed all over the nation.

Blogger Crew November 23, 2020 7:57 PM  

and I would assume the NSA, at the very least, has it

I think the three letter agencies want dirt on the president so they are unlikely to cough up anything about the pretender elect.

Blogger B-Rex November 23, 2020 8:08 PM  

I think a lot of people are waiting for a very public victory moment, and spending years either in or watching media expect it to come through media means. they can't understand the "quiet", and they forget it's been only 20 days since election day. this is history's fastest nationwide investigation so far but it's still gonna take time. I sympathize, I too want to see Trump hit back rather than just shake off their fraud and attacks, but the order of the day is Patience

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother November 23, 2020 8:10 PM  

Tucker is half libertarian, and it's showing.

Blogger jijijeac November 23, 2020 8:14 PM  

old republicans never liked trump. trump brings new ideas. rush was an anti trumper at the beginning. he doesn't understand how modern dem fraud works. he comes from a time when both parties accepted fraud in the states they controlled. rush is simply incapable of accepting that massive fraud happens every ellection in the usa but that politicians just shake hands and allow it to happen because they are different sides of the same coin. trump is the only one in recent history to look these people in the eye and say: nope not playing your game this is fraud and it will be exposed.

Blogger Tom Bombadil November 23, 2020 8:19 PM  

The press conference the other day was one of the most amazing things I've ever seen in my life. The fact that they would unceremoniously kick her off the team with a curt public statement a few days later is almost more amazing.

I could make up 5 competing theories but really I'm just at a loss.

Cuomo getting an Emmy for his 'rona performance makes a lot more sense to me. In the "admitting it's all a big fat hoax right in your face" kinda way.

I guess the Powell thing is to make Trump's legal battles seem as ridiculous as possible? Or she went off the reservation by attacking the Republicans in Georgia? Or did they call her out for having no evidence?

Blogger Damelon Brinn November 23, 2020 8:22 PM  

Rush isn't wrong about public perception. MPAI. They want to see shocking obvious evidence like it would happen on a tv show.

The evidence IS shockingly obvious, but that's the media gaslighting at work. Imagine if just one major TV network reported on the fraud and treated it as the enormous story that it is--not in a biased way, but just in an "If this is true, it's massive so we have to talk about it" way. Imagine if they traced Dominion and the others and showed graphics of their foreign ownership and connections. Imagine if they showed parallels to foreign elections that have been deemed fraudulent by the US government. Imagine if they did interviews with the whistleblowers.

If they covered it objectively--or heck, covered it at all--the public would be well aware how big this is and how strong the evidence.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 23, 2020 8:24 PM  

Tom wrote:The fact that they would unceremoniously kick her off the team with a curt public statement a few days later is almost more amazing.
If nothing else, get this one simple fact through your thick skull and into your fat head;
THEY DID NOT KICK SIDNEY POWELL OFF THE TEAM! IT NEVER HAPPENED. THE FACT THAT YOU THINK IT HAPPENED IS PROOF YOU'RE A MORON.
Powell was never on their team. She is an independent attorney who is not and has never been employed by the US government or Donald Trump or the Trump campaign. EVER.

Blogger Keith November 23, 2020 8:28 PM  

I always take what Rush is pushing as an indication of the mindset of the country-club Republican class.

Blogger Dad29 November 23, 2020 8:33 PM  

In another forum (RedState), a fellow named Dennis Montgomery was fingered as the single source of information on "Hammer and Scorecard", claiming that it is CIA's stuff.

Do you know who this guy Montgomery is? The RedState author quotes a woman named Schachtel to the effect that Montgomery is a scam artist.

Blogger Stilicho November 23, 2020 8:39 PM  

He has been very negative on the Bush family lately. Not as negative as we are, but more than you would expect from someone who tries very hard not to critcize anyone on the purported right. Plus he absolutely despises Romney, so he's got some redeeming qualities.

His audience is primarily normies and heavily Boomer. There is only so much truth they can take even if Rush realizes it himself. But he has to stand on his own on this. He's impatient like all of us sure, but he is smart enough to see the truth, so he needs to speak it openly and plainly and not back down or load it down with caveats. There is no "exit strategy" here, there is only the choosing of sides. I choose the truth regardless of political or judicial shenanigans.

Blogger Blondie Callahan November 23, 2020 8:41 PM  

Boomers, these folks I simply can't take. Trump is a racist, there's no such thing as voter fraud and Woodstock changed the world. JFK was the greatest President ever! No one needs an "assault rifle" and the Mexicans are just coming here for a better life and are hard working people. Oh yea, the Beatles are the best band ever, and Imagine was the best song ever.

Never cared for Rush so much, as long as someone has an R behind their name he's down, just like Rush Jr., Hannity. These two sucked off Bush 2 for 8 years while Alex Jones was calling out the BS.

Rush sounds like all of these other black pilled pussies. The point about servers being raided in Germany is not the most important point, it's that our votes are being counted in Germany in the first place. Do these people not understand that this is a problem? Sidney Powell has taught me a lot about how this rigged shit works, hell I just thought the Democrats just stuffed ballots.

I watched the press conference in full as I am sure you all did, what in the hell is Limbaugh talking about, there was no bombshell? Did this guy watch the same thing I watched?

Thank God for this fine blog and the people here, everywhere I turn people are giving up it seems, and I don't hang out with people that give up.

Blogger Al From Bay Shore November 23, 2020 8:44 PM  

Thank you for posting this. I've been black pilled all day. This was the first time in all this drama that I've been black pilled to such an extent. What you have posted has restored much of my optimism. Thank you again!

Blogger Stilicho November 23, 2020 8:44 PM  

Rush isn't a midwit. However that gives him less of an excuse for Doomerism.

Blogger Anonoly November 23, 2020 8:45 PM  

so true on that title

Blogger Beloved November 23, 2020 8:46 PM  

"People like Rush have let the media set the bar for "evidence" and "bombshell" so high that it would take a video of Biden, Harris, Soros, and the Clintons marking ballots with baby blood to impress them."

They'd be concerned he didn't have anything more. Exactly what he's saying now.

Blogger TheGhostlyOne November 23, 2020 8:47 PM  

What are the chances, that anyone of us in the comments can improve things with our unique analysis? What are the chances, that our lamentations are more beneficial than Vox’s post?

We aren’t the Founding Fathers. We’re the equivalent of cavalry captains. At best, we are battalion XOs. We may occasionally come up with a tactic that makes a difference at the local level, but we are in no position to affect the overall strategy.

Imagine if a cavalry captain criticized Washington’s withdrawal from New York. That’s what you are doing by doom-posting. Yes, you did well burning that royal supply depot, but you don’t have the overall picture. Vox does; so we take our directions from him.

It sucks, but “shut up, tend to your companies, and wait,” is the correct path for us. We have no choice but to dig deep and hold the line. Not putting down anyone or any particular doom post, I’m just pointing this out, because we have to toughen up, control our anxieties, pray, go to rallies, defend Trump, and most of all, be patient, and that’s it. Anything else is likely to complicate our mission.

Blogger Crew November 23, 2020 8:47 PM  

@57: MPAI ... wait, is that Farmer Tom back again?

Blogger David November 23, 2020 8:48 PM  

Tom wrote:I guess the Powell thing is to make Trump's legal battles seem as ridiculous as possible? Or she went off the reservation by attacking the Republicans in Georgia? Or did they call her out for having no evidence?

I take it you're starting from the worldview the media is pushing, rather than the actual words that were said/written about it from the people involved.

Blogger Canadian Warlord November 23, 2020 8:49 PM  

LR27
>>>"I have a knack for math and have absolutely no idea how normal people can actually be so stupid. The giant stack of 138,000 Biden votes won't sway these people. I don't know if they're lying, retarded, or just have their soul switched off."
______________________
I believe this has to do with the last 5-6 years of dehumanizing Trump, or nazifying him. I can't think of a shitlib I've met who would have a problem with stealing elections against "literally Hitler."

People think the 'split' approaches in X number of years. They are wrong. That was 2015. That's when the real chasm opened up, in the heads of millions of media consumers. Anything is justified, and no one cares about the rule of law. Nothing can stop this progressive train from driving our civilization off the tracks. Even a Trump victory here, is a brief respite.

The entire reason Limbaugh has a career is because of the absurd policies of the organized left in America. It's been going for 60 years. It's not finished.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel November 23, 2020 8:49 PM  

"Rush is underwhelmed, because he's a Boomer"

Rush is a dying man. He's not going to be an optimist. Cancer is thought of as a physical malady, but trust me, it changes your outlook. That having been said, I think he should exit the microphone and wring every last second out of that remains to him.

I know the evidence is overwhelming and incontrovertible, but the question is how is it adjudicated? The Courts are part of the swamp and they'll all be thinking overturn this and cities burn.

I'm not sure what to make of this, but it appears to be resignation.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-tells-gsa-allow-biden-transition-proceed-best-interest-our-country

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 23, 2020 8:50 PM  

Crew wrote:wait, is that Farmer Tom back again?
No, that's not Farmer Tom. He's a farmer and this is his busiest time of year. At last report, Farmer Tom was hip-deep in pig crap, cleaning out a hog feeding facility in preparation for producing my Easter ham.

Blogger tuberman November 23, 2020 8:54 PM  

Here's my personal experience with the Rush people.

About Rush, true story: In 2015 I called into the Rush show, and got in to talk about Trump's new candidacy. I was fairly hard-right during that time due to following the Rotherham Rapes and Pakis using young school girls as prostitutes in the UK in 2014 and before. Talked to Rush on the air, and later that day and the next... I found out that someone on Rush's show had turned private information, which I had not talked about on the air to Betsy Woodruff, who then worked for The Daily Beast, and later for Politico. Betsy was semi-doxing and threatening me.

She graduated from Hillsdale College in 2012 and was a William F. Buckley Fellow at National Review, and she also does work for MSNBC. Do I trust Rush? No, by personal experience, I know better. See how these 'conservatives' intertwine with DS types?

My early lessen about talking to any media.

Blogger The Lab Manager November 23, 2020 8:57 PM  

If the sorry media would report even half of this, there would probably be some rioting in the streets.

http://www.amerika.org/politics/all-roads-lead-to-china/

"To stop China, Trump realized that he had to catch the Deep State hand-in-glove in something so big that it would burn them forever, or at least for another four years so that he can replace them all in the power structure of the American government.

He used the election as bait. They would have to take it. He then pitted different federal agencies against one another. CISA and NSA have revealed that they oppose the president and therefore are part of the goodthinkers allied with the Deep State and China. CIA has not yet revealed its orientation, but surely is tired of playing second fiddle to the NSA during the Patriot Act years."

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 23, 2020 9:03 PM  

Dad29 wrote:In another forum (RedState), a fellow named Dennis Montgomery was fingered as the single source of information on "Hammer and Scorecard"Red State is wholly owned by the Mercers and has as it's purpose the death of Trumpism. If Erickson said the sky was blue, I'd look outside to make sure. If he said water is wet, I'd wonder what had happened to physics and why water was now dry.Red state is a group of pathetically incompetent never-Trumpers that got shut out of even Conservative Inc media for their constant shilling for Rubio and Cruz, and their reflexive dishonesty.

They are honestly a bad as NRO, though slightly more discreet.

Blogger SmokeyJoe November 23, 2020 9:07 PM  

I am not the coldest beer in the 'fridge...But I wasn't half swilled and left on the table over nite either. Explaining this crap to people in my "circles" is really getting tedious. I may need to get new "circles." Sigh.....

Blogger JM November 23, 2020 9:17 PM  

Sure, the NSA has the packets. But the packets are encrypted. Heavily. And there were millions of them going in and out of the server farm in Frankfurt. The best we could hope for is to see a pattern of packets going to and from the server farm(s) to voting machines and/or vote collection servers, etc. I doubt very much that we'll ever see the decrypted contents of the packets.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 23, 2020 9:24 PM  

JM wrote:But the packets are encrypted. Heavily. And there were millions of them going in and out of the server farm in Frankfurt. The best we could hope for is to see a pattern of packets going to and from the server farm(s) to voting machines and/or vote collection servers, etc.
You place WAAAAAAAY too much faith in encryption. Chances are NSA has the keys, and even if they don't, they have the server.

Blogger phil g November 23, 2020 9:26 PM  

Libertardian

Blogger Cedric November 23, 2020 9:30 PM  

I really like the conflict, so I don't really get the doompilling.

I think it's pretty great that we might even get it to the SCOTUS simply from what the people have observed and gathered, that's how obvious and inept their fraud is. The President hasn't even played his hand yet, this is us playing ours as a third actor.

Blogger Viking November 23, 2020 9:35 PM  

I am not too worried about Trump approving the beginning of the transition. At worse it is just Trump heading off the possibility that Congress passes something that will force him to release these funds. But a few other thoughts.

1. They said 'initial protocols'. I don't know what is means but it is not the whole thing yet.

2. So Biden gets a few million to play with but if his win is shown to be not just incorrect but fraud and he was in on it in any way he will now be on the hook for defrauding the gov't.

3. We don't know if or how much intel Biden will get at this point but if he does start getting intel on the basis of a fraud he knew about... You get the point. What exactly does he need to sign and swear to in order to get his classification upgraded during this period?

4. What if Trump wants Biden to know that he knows what they have been up to. This gives him a way of doing that without making it public and without anything that could be seen as a threat.

Just remember, none of us knows what is going on. There are no cameras behind the scenes for us and this is not going to be resolved in a nice tidy movie timeframe.

Blogger SirHamster November 23, 2020 9:40 PM  

Jeroth wrote:Wes350 wrote:And it makes no difference to the end result.

It makes sense if supporter morale is completely irrelevant to this fight, but it is going to be interpreted as the end by most normies. I don't think it is the end, but morale is certainly going to plummet. I suppose it could be a culling of the weak.
Are people who see Trump fighting major electoral fraud going to be demoralized because the transition team is going to make a plan for what "needs to be done"?

Alternative take: The value of that move was to create a news story showing that Biden is so weak he has to beg his supporters for money and whine that President Trump is being mean.

And now President Trump is being nice, so Biden has nothing more to whine about.

What impression is left? The "President Elect" is impotent and Trump is still driving.

Blogger map November 23, 2020 9:43 PM  

VD,

You wrote:

"The evidence is devastating. We know the programmer who developed the vote-stealing routine. We know the Serbian team that programmed the software. We know what companies were involved and where their servers were located. We know the algorithm. We can replicate the vote totals as they were recorded. We can match the vote-switching to the data feed that went out to the media networks with the recordings of the media broadcasts."

I downloaded the recordings of the interviews, but haven't watched them yet. Would you happen to know which one of them makes this case?

Blogger Avalanche November 23, 2020 9:49 PM  

@55 "Or she went off the reservation by attacking the Republicans in Georgia? Or did they call her out for having no evidence?"

OR, she's not on retainer or getting paid and needs a public way to bring attention to her own crowd fund! God knows poor old Flynn can't be paying her at the moment!!

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 23, 2020 9:50 PM  

@Smokey Joe, nobodies trying to explain it yet. You will have to content yourself to know that they expect you to believe that Operation Potato-Elect is the most popular politician U.S. history (and that they are full of $hit).

Blogger Avalanche November 23, 2020 9:54 PM  

@57 "Powell was never on their team. She is an independent attorney who is not and has never been employed by the US government or Donald Trump or the Trump campaign. EVER."

Not unreasonable to think so. At this great long press conference of all these lawyers working on the fraudulent election, Rudy, Trump's personal lawyer, introduced Sidney BEFORE Jenna Ellis, ALSO Trump's personal lawyer... who IS on Trump's team/retainer...

If one wasn't following Sidney closely, as I am and as apparently you are, it would not be unreasonable to see her as 'another lawyer on the team.' I think Rudy may have called them a team in his intro.

Blogger map November 23, 2020 9:56 PM  

IOW, is it the Howie Carr interview or the Giuliani press conference?

Blogger cecilhenry November 23, 2020 9:56 PM  

This is quite the picture


I haven't trusted Canadian election results in the past 15 years, this only highlights it.


Justin Trudeau tests Dominion Voting Systems with Alex Soros in the background:

https://imgur.com/MuDEsLh.jpg

Blogger map November 23, 2020 9:57 PM  

JM wrote:Sure, the NSA has the packets. But the packets are encrypted. Heavily. And there were millions of them going in and out of the server farm in Frankfurt. The best we could hope for is to see a pattern of packets going to and from the server farm(s) to voting machines and/or vote collection servers, etc. I doubt very much that we'll ever see the decrypted contents of the packets.

Decryption keys reside in memory and can be easily extracted.

Blogger Unknown November 23, 2020 9:58 PM  

With GA, PA Trump needs either AZ or WI, not MI.

Blogger Rick November 23, 2020 9:59 PM  

You do what you can do. Rest assured they’ll come around sometime during the next 4 amazing years. At least your trying to convince them of good news. The opposite would really suck. I’ve tried to share my confidence and the best I’ve gotten is “oh man I HOPE YOURE RIGHT!” But that’s ok because I know they’ll be enjoying really good times soon. Would be great before Christmas though. I like people to not stress through the holidays. That sucks. I’ve done that too many times.

Blogger Rick November 23, 2020 10:02 PM  

Keep in mind this system was no smarter than it needed to be to fool Venezuelans. (No offense Venezuelans). Then they took that VW bus and entered it in Le Mans.

Blogger Rick November 23, 2020 10:10 PM  

Rush is a great stepping stone. But doubt if he’d be useful to newbies since his best days were 20 years ago and it was different events back then so those windows are closed. He’s got great radio energy - or did back then. After 5 or 10 years though, it pretty monotonous. You could do the show yourself at that point. It’s like backing the same cake everyday.

Blogger scimitar November 23, 2020 10:11 PM  

where are Jeb , GW Bush , Kasich ??? Where's the RNC ?? You don't have to love Trump but you can support your party ...
Losers all....

Blogger Make Mine Texas November 23, 2020 10:14 PM  

I'm a boomer, and this is just not that hard to understand. Sidney Powell has explained it well enough that anyone paying attention ought to be able to grasp it. Except a commie lefty, who only understand communism.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville November 23, 2020 10:17 PM  

@76 if they have the servers, then they have the encryption key, assuming it was synchronous encryption.

Rush was reacting to the weeping boomer call from Friday. Unfortunately that caller was a good sampling of the fearful boomers. It just makes me sick to my stomach to keep hearing grown-ass men saying "I'm afraid" or "I'm worried". It's not just boomers talking like that either though.

Blogger Tom Bombadil November 23, 2020 10:21 PM  

Ouch. Ok I'm a busy person and I can't keep up with every detail, especially when almost all sources have gone to crap. That's why I'm here, looking for another view.

However, it sure looked like she was on their team during the press conference. I mean, to a person who has a busy life and can't be up on every detail all the time (most normal people).

So, if they didn't kick her off the team, they sure made it look that way. And why issue the statement in the first place if it's supposed to be so obvious? If it were just a clarification, I'd think the first line would be something like "We would like to clarify something about our legal team, there is a misconception about Powell's role".

I get it that this is a charged topic but I really don't think there's a need to jump down my throat and call me a moron.

Blogger Unknown November 23, 2020 10:21 PM  

Remember this:

The mainstream is a sewer.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei November 23, 2020 10:24 PM  

Great framing. Lots of historic clarity contained herein.

Blogger Newscaper312 November 23, 2020 10:33 PM  

@34 Weak
You have a point. Public perception is a big deal, moral element of 4GW war, etc.
People harumphing here about "evidence is for the court" are missing the boat. Support or pressure from the court of public opinion is vital for GOP state legislatures and conservative Justices to get some steel in their spines.

Blogger Tom Bombadil November 23, 2020 10:36 PM  

David wrote:Tom wrote:I guess the Powell thing is to make Trump's legal battles seem as ridiculous as possible? Or she went off the reservation by attacking the Republicans in Georgia? Or did they call her out for having no evidence?

I take it you're starting from the worldview the media is pushing, rather than the actual words that were said/written about it from the people involved.


I'm trying to understand. I read the statement, I read a few posts on twitter from Flynn and also read Powell's statement. I have no idea where to turn for good information or analysis anymore. The headlines seemed fake but the statement on it's face looks exactly like what I called it, a curt public dismissal. Call me crazy but it sure looked like she was on the Trump legal team in that press conference.

Blogger Teleport me off this rock November 23, 2020 10:38 PM  

Why does anyone expect more from Jeff Christie? He's just been playing a role, one that pays well, for decades now.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 23, 2020 10:41 PM  

Trump won the election, it therefor is reasonable he will be POTUS. So, continue to support TGE. If an Imposter President takes office, well, it won't be the first time history. Look at the end of the Roman Republic - these sorts of things are to be expected. And in any event, continue to plan for the forthcoming turbulences on the way to the mid-2030s.

Perhaps a POTUS Heels-Up Harris is the best thing to happen to the USA. What WOULD it take to Red Pill a nation addicted to Blue Pills?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 23, 2020 10:43 PM  

@Tom, look up Salty Cracker on Youtube. He will help you.

Blogger Crew November 23, 2020 10:48 PM  

I have heard that a lot of Chinese in Silicon Valley expect Trump to be president.

Blogger Kraemer November 23, 2020 10:56 PM  

Distraction. Make the enemy lower their guards

Blogger map November 23, 2020 10:56 PM  

Tom wrote:I'm trying to understand. I read the statement, I read a few posts on twitter from Flynn and also read Powell's statement. I have no idea where to turn for good information or analysis anymore. The headlines seemed fake but the statement on it's face looks exactly like what I called it, a curt public dismissal. Call me crazy but it sure looked like she was on the Trump legal team in that press conference.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/11/22/republican-business-interests-separate-from-sidney-powell/

Check out this statement about the Powell press conference from CTH.

Blogger Arthur Isaac November 23, 2020 11:00 PM  

@99 if having returned ballots exceeding 100% of the registered voters won't put steel in their spines alongside massive "Stop the Steal" rallies what do you suppose will.

This is exposing the rot. Sunlight is getting into places not seen since the institution of the Federal Reserve.

Blogger Rick November 23, 2020 11:03 PM  

Sidney can provide her evidence to the DOJ independent of the Trump team vs she would have a conflict if on the team because AG Barr works for Trump. Independent she works the criminal case while the team works the civil case for Trump the citizen.
That’s what I’ve read others argue. It sounds logical to me except that I didn’t think a private citizen could bring a criminal case. But I guess she isn’t really if she’s handing it to the DOJ.
If that’s her plan, that is.

Blogger Tom Bombadil November 23, 2020 11:06 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:@Tom, look up Salty Cracker on Youtube. He will help you.

Thanks, that's a good one.

Still comes off as a fumbling way to handle it and feed the narrative of the mainstream media, but whatever. I'm sure there's some angle on that, too.

Blogger Garret Garland November 23, 2020 11:12 PM  

What is it about that generation's mind set that will not let them get their news from anything but approved sources? I know it's not all of them but it's way more than other generations. I know they where subjected to propaganda but who the hell wasn't? So infuriating.

Blogger Akulkis November 23, 2020 11:20 PM  

>> 4. What if Trump wants Biden to know that he knows what they have been up to. This gives him a way of doing that without making it public and without anything that could be seen as a threat.

Bingo!

Blogger Josh Brown November 23, 2020 11:22 PM  

It was confusing. All along she seemed to be there but outside the team and then both Pres Trump and Ms Ellis tweeted a list of people comprising the team and both included Sidney's name and she was at the conference, then came the clarification tweet and Sidney Powell's statement that there was no paymentz involved. Stuff going on not being made public and happening quickly most likely.

Blogger Dancing Queen November 23, 2020 11:31 PM  

AMEN !!, BROTHER AMEN!!!!!

Blogger Akulkis November 23, 2020 11:33 PM  

Other than Vietnam vets, most Boomers have never known hardship.

Of course they're terrified -- the public "youth center" which was then commandeered to become the public "senior citizen center" because "it's mine, it's always been mine, and no, I'm not going to share it!" might be closed down during the "leftist cadres vs. everybody" and, omg, where else can we go to sit around drinking "free" coffee (courtesy of the city taxpayers) while bragging to each other about how well their 401K accounts are doing. And besides, civil unrest is bad for 401K's... they would much prefer that Gen-X and Gen-Z not be able fix the corruption until after their exalted Boomer selves are dead and gone.

Blogger Homesteader November 23, 2020 11:34 PM  

To those of you wavering in your faith, a reminder:

"The Lord is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the Lord for ever."



Have faith, people- pray, work, fight, and BELIEVE.

Blogger valis November 23, 2020 11:37 PM  

I can understand why Rush would be impatient but does he really expect Giuliani and Co to reveal their full legal strategy on national radio? I'm not a lawyer but I can't see why you would take that risk, no matter how strong the evidence is.

Blogger Akulkis November 23, 2020 11:38 PM  

>> If it were just a clarification, I'd think the first line would be something like "We would like to clarify something about our legal team, there is a misconception about Powell's role".

When was the last time the press reported a quote accurately without that same quote also being one which would demoralize the general public and especially the right.

The only time they will give video with sound is when the exact quote is useful for them. Every other occasion, they're going to give you a paragraphasing of what was said, twisted to make it as painful to you me as possible.

Do you understand now?

Blogger rumpole5 November 23, 2020 11:40 PM  

I continue to suspect that we are only in the public relations phase of the Trump team plan. The point is to so discredit the - decision by popular votes - process as fraudulent. If so, it has been rather effective. It is reported that 70% of Republicans, and 30% of Democrats, believe that the election was stolen. The PR phase would be, so that voters will not feel cheated when the popular vote by mail in vote process is thrown out by SCOTUS as an unconstitutional and/or illegal process (rather than fraud), and the - decision by state votes - process is substituted for the popular vote. This Boomer also wonders if the Biden team's decision to float a SCOTUS packing discussion just a few weeks ago was a wise move. The Supreme Court Judges can't have been too happy about Democrat proposals to dilute their personal power by adding a zillion new justices to their number. I wonder if that might just influence their ultimate decision in the instant Trump/Biden controversy. We will see.

Blogger Cedric November 23, 2020 11:40 PM  

@Tom All it means is that she's not employed by the RNC, which means she is untethered and can go after the corrupt Republican state government in Georgia.

The media took that and lied as they always do.

Blogger jarheadljh November 23, 2020 11:42 PM  

I don't think that it's an inability to understand. Just going off of my own experience with my own very Boomer father who is a certified 148, they just refuse to believe that we can win. Not a refusal to believe that we are winning, but that winning is even possible. He flat out said that the Swamp is too deep, and "Trump is a business man. He never figured out how to fight there." He will then turn around an acknowledge all of Trump's accomplishments in spite of the Swamp. He cannot be de-conditioned from being able to hold two completely contradictory thoughts at the same time and no matter how many times he agrees with me that Fox is also fake news, he still watches it and then makes excuses. He's so conditioned to losing that if victory is not immediate he will not believe that it's coming at all. I can bring him all the evidence I can find, he will dismiss it as conspiracy theories out of hand, because it's not on TV.

Blogger Ingot9455 November 23, 2020 11:43 PM  

@82 Many of the things you state have convenient videos linked to on gatewaypundit. I've seen them several times there.

Blogger Teleport me off this rock November 23, 2020 11:46 PM  

Perhaps a POTUS Heels-Up Harris is the best thing to happen to the USA.

It would be the end of the USA.


What WOULD it take to Red Pill a nation addicted to Blue Pills?

It can't be done. Normalcy bias and cowardly comfort is all most people know now.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 23, 2020 11:50 PM  

I was really looking forward to Stacey "M1A1" Abrams trying to scale Stone Mountain to blow up a carving so big, you can stand inside the horses' nostrils. The Klan didn't mess around when they built that monument. It doesn't even begin until you're 100ft up, straight vertical.

Blogger Didas Kalos November 23, 2020 11:51 PM  

@93 Scimitar; the evil snakes you mentioned are actively trying to defeat Donald J. Trump and perpetuate the greatest election fraud ever known to mankind.

Blogger Wazdakka November 23, 2020 11:59 PM  

Normie beliefs befuddle my brain

Russia gate was obvious hoax, but normie still thinks its real

Election was clearly weird, don't have to be a statistician to see it. Normie "Where is the evidence?"

Blogger weka November 24, 2020 12:11 AM  

@Ruby. An IQ of over 115 puts you in the top 17% of the bell curve, which makes you middle management, engineering, and a professional. An IQ over 130 puts you in the top 2.5%, which is competitive medical schools and engineering. Go up to 145 and there is a shift. You understand the really bright such as our dark host and you find that Normies find you weird.

And Normies don't get it. Boomers consider this unfair.

Another reason you should all hate my generation.

Blogger WoodlandWashingWashington November 24, 2020 12:29 AM  

It also doesn't help that Rush is going through chemo treatment. It fries the brains. My dad's cognitive abilities suffered a lot when he was going through the lung cancer chemo.

Blogger Jack Ward November 24, 2020 12:29 AM  

Go to Mathis site for election insights in detail
http://mileswmathis.com/trump3.pdf

Blogger JonM November 24, 2020 12:39 AM  

The burden of evidence has been inverted. Trump doesn't have to prove the election was fraudulent. The positive statement that has to be proven is, "the election was free and fair and complied with all relevant laws, statutes, and regulations."

This has yet to be proven to the satisfaction of tens of millions of Americans. We don't have to prove squat. THEY have to prove to US.

Normally, I would take the testimony of eyewitnesses, both Dem and Rep, poll watchers, but we don't have those this year. If the Democrats and their pet, lying media wants me to believe their call that Biden won, THEY have to prove it in a court of law.

Blogger Duh November 24, 2020 12:59 AM  

About starting the transition: I don't think the God Emperor gives anything away for free or without purpose. My bet is that Biden's intelligence briefings will be purely election based, and just enough to know that Trump knows everything. About the fraud, about Hunter, about the kickbacks.

Other than that, it's great theater. The feint, the stumble, before the counter attack.

Blogger John Rockwell November 24, 2020 1:01 AM  

The Lab Manager wrote:If the sorry media would report even half of this, there would probably be some rioting in the streets.

http://www.amerika.org/politics/all-roads-lead-to-china/

"To stop China, Trump realized that he had to catch the Deep State hand-in-glove in something so big that it would burn them forever, or at least for another four years so that he can replace them all in the power structure of the American government.

He used the election as bait. They would have to take it. He then pitted different federal agencies against one another. CISA and NSA have revealed that they oppose the president and therefore are part of the goodthinkers allied with the Deep State and China. CIA has not yet revealed its orientation, but surely is tired of playing second fiddle to the NSA during the Patriot Act years."


The more complete and total the Victory. The more it lasts through the ages.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 24, 2020 1:21 AM  

Rush has maybe a year to live. If he was ever going to come clean and tell us what he really thinks, it's now. Sadly, I think he actually believes what he says, which is exactly the same as he has always said. I heard him interviewing the God-Emperor right before the election, (when Trump dropped the F-bomb on air re: Iran) where he praised George W. Bush--unironically!--about his "response" to 9/11. I doubt seriously that Rush pays any attention to anything but mainline conservative organs. He seems to support Trump because he is the Republican president. I had thought Rush was brighter than that, but it looks like he's got the showmanship of the GEOTUS without the brainpower. Then I remembered him talking about how he used to be more of a conspiracy believer until he "realized that too many people would have to be in on the secret." The good news, if you want to call it that, is that he won't have to reconcile his world-view to what he sees in front of him in the next few years. He will have lived his entire life, becoming very wealthy in the process, believing he made a difference. Unfortunately, when the truth comes out about who really controls (or has controlled) the US and the world, he will be forgotten as a controlled opposition, except no one had to control him, he did it for them.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 24, 2020 1:28 AM  

Sidney Powell is going after some powerful Republicans, namely Gov Brian Kemp and the SoS of Georgia. She can't do that if she is attached to the Trump campaign. On her own, as a concerned citizen, she can go where the evidence takes her. If she is right, this will be the biggest scandal in Georgia in 100 years.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 24, 2020 1:40 AM  

Rush has always been beholden to his advertisers, so he was never able to expand his thinking past mainline conservatism, even if he had wanted to. One thing I had admired about him is that if an advertiser dropped him due to a brigading attack by Media Matters or whoever, he never let them advertise on his show again. That was a pretty cool thing to me at the time, but less relevant now. The world has passed him by, and no one will replace him because his show is only surviving on inertia at this point. AM radio will likely die inside of 5 years after he is gone.

Blogger ZaijiaN November 24, 2020 1:40 AM  

Newscaper312 wrote:@34 Weak

You have a point. Public perception is a big deal, moral element of 4GW war, etc.

People harumphing here about "evidence is for the court" are missing the boat. Support or pressure from the court of public opinion is vital for GOP state legislatures and conservative Justices to get some steel in their spines.


I wrote the following on FB to bring a little optimism to my normie friends and family:

The public opinion battlefront is far more important.

The evidence of fraud abounds in both quantity and variety. There are so many sworn eyewitness accounts attesting to outright criminal actions or at the very least the non-enforcement of election laws. These corrupt officials in precincts, counties, and courts are ignoring all the evidence and doing as they choose simply because they know that they will face no personal consequences.

The ONLY possible way we can make these officials behave honestly and to follow the laws is to turn public sentiment against them such that they fear the consequences. Note that this is what the converse of what the media does with lies: THEY LIE TO MAKE OFFICIALS BREAK THE LAW, because they are cowards who fear the public. BUT WE CAN DO THAT WITH THE TRUTH: force cowardly officials to FOLLOW THE LAW, because WE WANT THEM TO.

This is why the pro-Trump crowd is highlighting every irregularity, every statistical impossibility, every testimony - they have to instill in the citizenry a strong consensus that this election was not above-board; that shenanigans were had; that crimes were committed.

And they are doing well in that battle. The majority of the GOP & Trump voters believe there was significant fraud. Even 30% of Democrats believe there was fraud!

You will not find an open-minded and clear-eyed man who believes this election was on the level.

Now, does Sidney Powell have the goods? At this point I am doubting it along with many other Trump supporters, but I'm also sure we're all secretly hoping she does. But what she's peddling sounds too much like "Russian Hackers" and the "Obama Birther" theories. Sadly, there is no one magic bullet to prove the fraud and win the election - instead, like most things in life, victory is a grind, a successive series of small battles and advancements. But Sidney's hyperbole, exaggerated or not, serves a purpose: to raise morale and raise awareness of electoral fraud.

Which brings us full circle: the best and most realistic hope for a Trump victory is through the GOP-controlled state legislatures. The GOP has FULL CONTROL of AZ, GA, MI, PA, and WI. The state legislatures choose the Electoral College, and appointing their votes to Trump would give him 305. This was also Clinton's impossible dream in 2016 - but unlike then, we have far more evidence of fraud (not to mention that 2016 recounts actually GAVE Trump votes).

But elected officials are a cowardly lot, and mostly undoubtedly controlled by blackmail. If they are to do what is right, then public sentiment has to be stronger than their fear or hatred. The legislators of Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin MUST HEAR FROM THEIR CONSTITUENTS, and that we are sure this election was swayed by fraud.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 24, 2020 1:47 AM  

Right after the GOP is finished as a party in Georgia, because of this scandal, the dems and GOP nationally will be finished as well. There is a Storm brewing, and it will sweep away both parties, leaving very few from either original party left to rebuild. Gitmo has been expanded by orders of magnitude for a reason, and it probably still won't be big enough even then.

Blogger Nostromo November 24, 2020 1:51 AM  

This one is easy. Powell called out Kemp, and Ratzenass, 2 establishment GOPe. To keep peace in the nominal GOP, Trump had to be seen as distancing himself from her. Strictly PR move.

Blogger Bogey November 24, 2020 1:53 AM  

The Sidney Powel question was answered today by Jenna Ellis.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 24, 2020 1:55 AM  

Rush has stage 4 lung cancer, and has quit the most aggressive treatments. He's resigned to his fate now. If he is having a change of heart about the Bushes, that's great news because it shows that he's essentially a good guy. If he didn't have advertisers to placate, he's probably be closer aligned to the readers of VP.

Blogger map November 24, 2020 2:14 AM  

Ingot9455 wrote:@82 Many of the things you state have convenient videos linked to on gatewaypundit. I've seen them several times there.



Thanks, Ingot.

I've been downloading and archiving these videos for the past two weeks.

I just wanted to hone on the video with Sydney Powell and all the claims she made.

I know I have it, but I have several hour long pressers that I don't want to sort through.

Ah, f*ck it. I'm just being lazy. I will find it.

Blogger map November 24, 2020 2:27 AM  

Dan in Georgia wrote:Unfortunately, when the truth comes out about who really controls (or has controlled) the US and the world, he will be forgotten as a controlled opposition, except no one had to control him, he did it for them.

This is a profound statement, Dan.

Rush ending up an unwitting controlled opposition by history's judgement.

Blogger Dan in Georgia November 24, 2020 2:33 AM  

When you tell them "they hate you and want you dead", you get a blank stare and they say "what did I ever do to them?". This is also another great example of why we need to repeal the 19th Amendment.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli November 24, 2020 2:50 AM  

Boomer thread!!! yeeeees!!

Do you think Boomers are smarter or more virtuous than they were, oh, say, 15 years ago? 25 years ago? 35 years ago?

The answer, kids, is "NO!" While more 'aware' of some of the nefarious dealings of their fellow Boomers in D.C., old age and the inherently passive nature of modern "retirement", the laziness of body and mind it instills, the mind-numbing drug of endless television and leisure, the avoidance of almost all discomforts, the plush living rooms, the fridges and kitchen full of mass-produced junk, sugar, and carbs they STILL buy from Walmart and Kroger on the cheap... and you get a generation that can hardly think, much less act. They are WORSE off than they were 20 years ago, be sure of this.

Do not count on Boomers to do jack all. Count on them to talk. Count on them to get scared and run under the tables because they were trained to do so since they were born. Count on them to waver, doubt, over-analyzed, armchair quarterback, and then posture and aw-shucks themselves into a superficial and temporarily positive state of mind. As they wait for someone else to take care of everything and they go play tennis.

Spartans they are not.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli November 24, 2020 3:11 AM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:What the boomers want is for all this to be resolved in one episode so they can get on with their lives (of self absorbtion). They have interests, hobbies, and TV shows to watch.

BOOM

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli November 24, 2020 3:14 AM  

doctrev wrote:Says you. I'm going to be blasting the more triumphant soundtracks at the hangings, and goodness knows there will be enough of those.

Yes, typical Boomer. You'll be passively watching while other men clean up the mess you Boomers allowed to manifest. Of course, you think this is "cool" to be playing some crap music off on the side while real adults do the dirty work for you to save your grandkids' asses.

This just prove Doktor Jeep's very point.

Blogger Bezzle November 24, 2020 3:20 AM  

Limbaugh is a deep-state gatekeeper. He shilled the Starr Report whitewashing the Vince Foster whack (which was an absolute Litmus-test for staying employed in any media capacity).

Blogger Jack Amok November 24, 2020 3:21 AM  

I know they where subjected to propaganda but who the hell wasn't? So infuriating.

The are narcistic and spoiled, and the propagandists long ago figured out you could get the average Boomer to believe anything you said if you told them they were smart and special and wonderful for believing it.

Blogger Mirko i Slavko November 24, 2020 3:48 AM  

This all started with 2005 elections in Kazakhstan.
Dominion Voting Systems was paid by president of Kazakhstan to fix the elections.

This has nothing to do with CIA stealing the elections.
EVERY country that buys voting machines buys them only AFTER those in power are ASSURED that the elections will go as planned.

CIA ofc installs backdoors in everything, and uses them whenever they do the color revolution, but most elections are fixed by countries themselves.

Representative democracy was always a lie.

And please, USA elections were not stolen by a "Serbian",
they were stolen by Serbian-American who works for the CIA.

And as always the most important question is which Hyphen-American PAID for the steal.

Blogger 1683Bear November 24, 2020 3:53 AM  

I took one statistics course in college and the great professor (former Hopkins lacrosse player, and looked like it), had us read a little, easy to read book called "How to Lie with Statistics" . But you don't even need that. Off the top of my head: the dirty voter roles including thousands of dead voters and residents of other states, the unconstitutional endruns around state legislatures to implement mail in voting including deadlines after November 3rd so the criminals could figure out how many Republican votes they have to make up on November 4th and later. The massive 100,000 plus Biden only vote drops between 3am and 7am on November 4th after Republican observers were barred from the counting center. The excuse of Covid to combine counting into massive counting centers where they could keep the Republican observers sometimes hundreds of feet away from the actual counting process. When what would have made more medical sense would be to have a lot of small counting centers with a neutral counter and representatives from both parties behind plexiglass with an armed guard. Thus you would have a maximum of four at each counting center. Then there are the subtraction from the vote totals and the fractional results - how can you have half a vote for Biden? These are a couple of things off the top of my head and am sure that I could think of more like Georgia finding thousands more Republican votes during a recount, Smartronix, Soros, etc. but I don't want to repeat myself. Maybe the cancer has gotten to Rush and he is in my prayers, maybe he is proving the left right and is a blowhard past his prime, or maybe one of the leftist billions just shoveled a bunch of money at him for his chemo or his third Bernie home.

Blogger Unknown November 24, 2020 4:14 AM  

@142

"what did I ever do to them?"

You exist, vote, and have the horrifying gall to not have been born one of them. These are people who openly fantasize about turning Appalachians into suicide bombers to prosecute their nation's hatred.

Blogger Jamie-R November 24, 2020 4:34 AM  

Remember that this software has been in operation since Bush's attempt at a second term. So he beat Kerry, and Obama beat McCain and Romney, using it. As General Flynn says though, there are multiple ways to victory, as is multiple ways to their corruption, using mob bosses in woggy Philly and a bunch of wannabe gangsters of the black persuasion in Detroit plus Antifa in other locales, is a strong network to corrupt an election.

If they corner Trump and he doesn't even get to use the Supreme Court, he has the raw data of the landslide and the corruption and the vote-switching that Military Intelligence recorded, he can present it himself, to whom really matters, WE THE PEOPLE. That's why you have a Constitution in the first place.

Be hilarious if he goes full Julius Caesar. Not his first choice, obviously, but you can see it will be his last, and he'll do it. I have no doubt.

Blogger Jamie-R November 24, 2020 4:43 AM  

In a follow up, this also presents multiple pathways to put down the coup d'etat, cutting the internet and electricity would be a ploy the CIA in open warfare at that point against the military, would do. Guarding electrical networks would be one job for soldiers or national guard in collaboration, but the internet makes one ponder an interesting possibility..... Elon Musk presents: The Space Force. An IT Project that punishes them right in their collective Big Tech ASSES. Starlink is a go. Cue the Space Force!

Blogger Dole November 24, 2020 4:48 AM  

Biden did not win. Who cares whether he considers it an obvious triviality or a "bombshell".

Blogger Cappuccinobear November 24, 2020 4:51 AM  

ALL assets mobilized. How many of Rushes friends used dominion?

Blogger VD November 24, 2020 5:26 AM  

I really don't think there's a need to jump down my throat and call me a moron.

Morons seldom do.

Blogger vinifera November 24, 2020 5:57 AM  

Boomers are stuck in the 30min sitcom mindset that basically ended in the mid 90's, meaning they are impatient for the outcome to come out and want answers now. I'm tired of them and wish they'd go away.

To this person @57 , Powell was a Federal Prosecutor for 10 years, so yes she has worked for the federal government.

The Sunday announcement clarifying Powell's association with the Trump team is no big deal. The Trump legal team has their focus; Powell has her focus ; Wood has his focus ; Boris has his focus...and on.

As far as the GSA opening up funds for 'transition', no big deal either. Just another slush fund for the democrats to take taxpayer money they are not entitled to yet because the election is far from over. The dems have been threatening the woman and her family because she would not open money up to them.

Has Kamala offered her resignation from the Senate yet? If the dems are so confident about taking over with all the fraud they've been caught doing, why hasn't she done that yet? BTW, where's Eric Coomer? Will guilty people start disappearing to their secret getaways in Paraguay soon?

I'd like to see this Kraken going viral like everyone else. Trump has prepared for this moment brilliantly and each of the primary legal challenges will continue to maneuver their way through to the SCOTUS, where they will meet their match. Just because he OK'd GSA to hand over transition funds has more to do with protecting the woman the dems were viscously attacking than admitting anything.

So get out of the 30min sitcom mindset and be patient.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf November 24, 2020 6:31 AM  

Timmy3 wrote:Michigan certified their votes after one Republican changed his mind. Doesn’t matter that the evidence is there when the Judges won’t consider them. I can only wonder what’s Trump’s next step. I don't recall the exact details, but in order to proceed (through the courts) the votes need to first be certified.

I suppose the point is, don't take this as a black pill. It's moving the legal process along as the Trump Team needs to have happen.

Blogger Lazarus November 24, 2020 6:42 AM  

Limbaugh needs to return the Medal of Freedom he got from Trump

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella November 24, 2020 7:21 AM  

The average non-minority IQ in Texas is estimated at 107. The average non-minority IQ in the rest of the south is much, much lower. If Texans are saying she is smart, she's not 115 smart, she's much much higher. There's a fairly decent chance she is smarter than any of the people in the news in politics in Georgia. And, she's honest, unlike the people in the news in politics in Georgia.

It has been a very relaxing four years watching a really smart guy who builds stuff do smart things- unexpected, well-built, funny things. The previous eight years were difficult, because we had news reporters (dim, very dim) getting excited about an obviously nice, but only average guy thinking very average thoughts and doing mostly destructive things, with no humor, wit or lightness.

Blogger Seth S November 24, 2020 7:35 AM  

I don't consider Rush a midwit, my IQ is low 130's and I am confident after listening to him for years he is above that. I think he is just blinded by civnattery.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella November 24, 2020 7:46 AM  

AC was mentioning Cornyn: Cornyn had to face down a coup at a ? caucus? whatever it is meeting a few years ago. They coordinated it all, it was to challenge him for being an ineffective squish. I don't know where it went, or what happened, but it was a Boomer vs everyone else show down.

Blogger tuberman November 24, 2020 7:48 AM  

@Dan

>> Rush has always been beholden to his advertisers

I think this is a major key. One area of his advertisers are heavily charity organizations, and almost all of those, I assume, are a scam, or more money laundry agents for the Deep State. It would be interesting to have some anons investigating all of his advertising 'charities.'

Blogger tuberman November 24, 2020 8:12 AM  

If Rush hasn't had a change of heart, and if he has 'handlers' or even his advertisers pulling his strings (if he is still in any way a DS 'asset'), it will come out strong in the next few weeks.

Should be fun to watch him expose himself now.

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Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 24, 2020 8:34 AM  

Crunchy Cachalot wrote:Perhaps a POTUS Heels-Up Harris is the best thing to happen to the USA.

It would be the end of the USA.

Ending the empire could save the nation.
Crunchy Cachalot wrote:What WOULD it take to Red Pill a nation addicted to Blue Pills?

It can't be done. Normalcy bias and cowardly comfort is all most people know now.

It doesn't have to be done. Most people are Fudds, will stay out of it, will lie to themselves to rationalize inaction, will go along to get along, and will accept whoever takes power, no matter what. Neither side has to win their hearts and minds.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella November 24, 2020 8:38 AM  

Jeeves. There are boomers on craft boards promoting getting microchipped- for the children!- and dementia-riddled old people- and it's no big deal, just like flouride in the water and vaccines. And ranting about suspicious young people not knowing what is good for them. On craft boards!!!



Blogger CM November 24, 2020 8:56 AM  

The media and our law enforcement apparatus and shifted what we consider solid evidence by refusing to act on and prosecute on valid evidence.

Extraordinary claims do not require extraordinary evidence. That's not a legal burden of proof, and yet the population as a whole has started thinking that's reasonable because the media acts like real, legitimate bombshells are nothingness.

Our executive offices across this country have reinforced that.

Blogger Maniac November 24, 2020 9:00 AM  

Yeah, to hell with Rush, Hannity and the rest of the GOP gigolos.

Blogger CM November 24, 2020 9:06 AM  

They want to see actionable. And the executive has refused action against valid evidence towards the upper echelons for so long that the majority of the public witnessing first hand would still not convince them something bad happened.

Blogger David November 24, 2020 9:14 AM  

Jack Ward wrote:Go to Mathis site for election insights in detail

http://mileswmathis.com/trump3.pdf


Miles is normally spot on, but when it comes to Trump you have to realize he still puts Trump as a Republican, which is a category error. Trump isn't really a Republican though - he's a Nationalist-lite Populist. So Miles is still thinking his historical opinion of vote fraud (that it is all made up by the uniparty) falls apart when it comes to Trump. They tried to cheat again in 2016, but were not prepared for Trump exceeding expectations.

So, real Miles with a grain of salt when it comes to Trump. Everything else he's good.

Blogger Cinqueports November 24, 2020 9:38 AM  

Libs have always underestimated Trump's ability to play both the short game and the long game at the same time.
Let me suggest:
a) The immediate goal is to tie up the Electoral College and put the election into the House. That's the short game, and the case against Dominion/Smartmatic/Soros/et al. is not a good vehicle for that. Such a case requires the orderly well-organized presentation of complex evidence that time constraints do not favor. Rather, the case for disallowing fake ballots and enjoining state certifications of electors is best presented under the equal protection claims that Giuliani is working on. If Trump can deny Biden 270 electors (even if he has a plurality) the election goes to the House and Trump is President. Alan Dershowitz (hardly a Trump fan) has consistently said that Trump has a good case to make.
b) The long game is to crush the malign actors both inside and outside of government. That will take considerable time, but the Dominion conspiracy (and it is that) has the potential to do that. Were it not so, those malign actors and their running dogs in Tech and the Media would not be screaming so loudly. This is the case that Powell is working on.
I offer this as a broad thesis.

Blogger bw November 24, 2020 10:31 AM  

I am not the coldest beer in the 'fridge...But I wasn't half swilled and left on the table over nite either

new one to me
+1

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli November 24, 2020 10:47 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:It doesn't have to be done. Most people are Fudds, will stay out of it, will lie to themselves to rationalize inaction, will go along to get along, and will accept whoever takes power, no matter what. Neither side has to win their hearts and minds.

Exactly. Repeat your position, use rhetoric, visual and verbal, and repeat, repeat, repeat while jostling or fighting for political and cultural power. The sheeple will be sheeple and sheepishly obey whomever is loudest and most powerful.

Blogger Crew November 24, 2020 11:07 AM  

TFW you realize that Venezuela was a dry run for the biggest steal of all!

Blogger Tom Bombadil November 24, 2020 12:10 PM  

VD wrote:I really don't think there's a need to jump down my throat and call me a moron.

Morons seldom do.


I will never give up hope for the civility on the web ;)

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 24, 2020 12:26 PM  

CM wrote:And the executive has refused action against valid evidence towards the upper echelons for so long ...
This is the rhetorical problem with keeping all the action on the down low.
``If there were really a problem, somebody would do something. Nobody's doing anything, so there really isn't a problem.''

Blogger Valar Addemmis November 24, 2020 12:29 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:Red State is wholly owned by the Mercers and has as it's purpose the death of Trumpism. If Erickson said the sky was blue, I'd look outside to make sure. If he said water is wet, I'd wonder what had happened to physics and why water was now dry.Red state is a group of pathetically incompetent never-Trumpers that got shut out of even Conservative Inc media for their constant shilling for Rubio and Cruz, and their reflexive dishonesty.

Not that it matters much (and enjoy or ignore any media you want), but Erickson hasn't been involved with RedState since they kicked him and the NeverTrumpers out in 2016/2017. I think streiff has been doing a decent job of running things since then. The writers are probably too CivNat for VP types, ofc. But they did a poll on writer expectations for 2020, and as I recall all of them were positive and happy about a Trump win. FWIW.

Blogger Eli November 24, 2020 1:22 PM  

@175 "I will never give up hope for civility on the web."
The web was never civil. What your asking for is a dream that will never come to pass. I'd say logoff now because the internet is not for the likes of you.

Blogger VD November 24, 2020 1:29 PM  

I will never give up hope for civility on the web.

You can keep your civility. I prefer truth.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd November 24, 2020 3:00 PM  

VD wrote:You can keep your civility. I prefer truth.
You, sir, are no True Conservative!

And thank God for that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash November 24, 2020 3:26 PM  

@Tom,
The way to not be called a moron is to not say moronic things.

Blogger Teleport me off this rock November 24, 2020 5:26 PM  

It doesn't have to be done.

That was my point. It can't be done nor does it need to be. The notion of "mass movements" are pure delusion, except for all the people claiming that they coulda shoulda woulda been on "the right side" in some past upheaval, but right now it's different.

Blogger flyingtiger November 24, 2020 7:50 PM  

Older boomers grew up without computers. He needs someone to explain this to him.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella November 24, 2020 8:15 PM  

Mr. Mathis uses online sources, with one quick skim. He has a pattern that he has learned to look for. You can watch his comprehension grow, year by year.

However, he uses public online sources, sources that we know can be compromised, distorted, and so on. There is information that simply is not in public at all, that he does not have access to, online or in real life. We have a continent wide purloined letter thing going, as well as simple hiding things. He can't be faulted for not knowing what he cannot research.

So, not everything he writes is going to be accurate, simply because he is missing information.

If you need a pop culture analogy: that librarian in the Star Wars movie that could not find a star system, because the information had been pulled from the library.

Blogger Joeplanet November 24, 2020 8:21 PM  

This.

Blogger Avalanche November 29, 2020 9:00 AM  

@90 "At least your trying to convince them of good news."

Advice and comments gratefully received...

Dr Peter Sandman teaches the "seesaw of risk communication," a way of modifying your opponent’s opposition, by working to coax them toward what we would call reason. And, I'd add, remember that your "target audience" will not be the person you're arguing with; but the listeners, who can consider your words without withdrawing further into their own beliefs. Entice; don't browbeat. The following suggestions are partly based on: http://www.psandman.com/col/westwing.htm

"...
Whenever people are ambivalent, seeing merit on both sides of some issue, they tend to focus on the side others are ignoring. This is the seesaw. When addressing an ambivalent audience, therefore, you can choose among three pure options plus a hybrid.
...
Take the obvious seat.
Take the counterintuitive seat.
Move to the fulcrum.

A more sophisticated, long-term approach is to move to the middle of the seesaw, forcing your stakeholders to come to terms with their ambivalence, to recognize that there are good arguments on both sides… in other words, to move to the middle themselves.

The geometry of the seesaw is surprisingly precise. If you focus on X, we focus on Y; if you're smack in the middle, so are we. And if you locate your own position midway between X and the fulcrum, we'll come midway between Y and the fulcrum. That’s the hybrid strategy.
...
A hybrid approach
The geometry of the seesaw is surprisingly precise. If you focus on X, we focus on Y; if you’re smack in the middle, so are we. And if you locate your own position midway between X and the fulcrum, we’ll come midway between Y and the fulcrum. That's the hybrid strategy.

My clients often make difficult decisions between close shades of gray, then want to claim it's really black-and-white and their choice is the only reasonable choice. But a strategist who understands the seesaw would say something like this: "The case for doing X was a, b, and c. The case for doing Y was d, e, and f. It was a close call, and the decision wasn't unanimous even inside the company, but we finally opted for Y. On balance, we think Y is better, for these reasons..."
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Blogger Avalanche November 29, 2020 9:01 AM  

{continued}
No longer quoting; this is me writing. Remember: go for rhetoric, not-so-much dialectic; choose your words with care and your goal in mind. This is easier in written persuasion, but preparation will help in talking with folks. So our version might be something like this.

The case for believing Trump is our rightful president includes:

1. impossibilities such as one Michigan county had a 781% turnout, the Zeeland Charter Township had a 460.51% turnout, Detroit: 138.29%.

2. ONLY the swing states had to stop counting for a few hours, always in the middle of the night, followed by a massive influx of Biden votes -– most that had ONLY votes for Biden, no down-ballot votes at all, even in places where there were hotly contested races for down-ballot positions.

3. Remember hundreds of rallies with thousands of people, including a 96-mile-long Trump parade in AZ? How is it possible that Biden, who did almost no campaigning and whose rallies rarely reached more than 20 people and half of whose rally "audiences" were his own staffers, somehow got MORE votes that Obama?

4. There are many voting districts and counties even in swing states that show massive Trump votes. Biden 'won' 477 counties; Trump 2,497; some good data to pull from here: https://conservativedailypost.com/zuckerberg-paid-for-bidens-georgia-lead-15-million-given-to-counties-that-pushed-win/ . Even those "blue" counties are more evenly split than expected. Yet the big cities in the swing states had totally out-of-pattern voting.

5. The Constitutionally mandated count-observers -– *one from each side* required to closely observe the envelope opening, matching signatures, and then counting the votes –- yet the Republican observers were denied entrance, denied visibility of the operations, even forcibly locked out; but only in the swing states, and never any Dem observers.

6. The Repubs were fighting the Dems for 27 important downballot seats; they won ALL 27.

7. The software and privately/foreign-sourced/foreign-managed voting machines, used in more than 30 U.S. states, have been investigated many times and always found to be insecure.

8. That software was specifically written to keep dictator Chavez in control of Venezuela; it is actually DESIGNED to allow vote-switching, which is exactly what we have seen. The CIA has used it in several countries, that we know of, to control elections in those countries.

9. Those known and recorded "glitches" only ever went to Biden's side. Glitches are random, they do not result in the exact same result in every single case; and if they do, it's not a glitch, it's programmed in. We have recordings of the exact same number of votes being REMOVED from Trump and added to Biden at the same moment. We have recorded counts of the suddenly 3 a.m. groups of hundred-thousand-votes nearly all for Biden, with no down-ballot votes, showing the exact same proportions across multiple counties. An impossibility: a statistician at the PA Senate panel showed some 600,000+ 3 a.m.-vote drop-offs where Trump got only 3,028 votes.


The case for believing Biden got more votes includes:
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Blogger Avalanche November 29, 2020 9:01 AM  

{continued}
The case for believing Biden got more votes includes:

1. The media keeps insisting he did. They anointed him "President Elect" even though they have nothing to do with it.

2. .... That's it. I out. No ammo at all. And even that 1. is useless. I tried for a long time to come up with some usable b.s. for this. Every single one ended up proving further why Biden is false.


I suppose you could ask your Biden-supporter for the basis for their belief. Get them to try to counter your facts with their beliefs. It means you need to have your facts-and-figures at hand -– but remember you're trying to coax them closer to the fulcrum. And your audience is not the one you're working on; that person is merely a training device for you to reach the others!

And if you get, as a friend of mine who does vote for Trump keeps saying, "yeah, but I STILL think Trump is an @sshole!"; try to help them differentiate between" 'I don't LIKE him' and 'he is a helluva President, and the president we NEED!'

"Good luck. And, as always, should any of your IM forces be caught or killed, the Secretary will disavow any knowledge of your actions."

Come on man, you knew I was a boomer when you began reading!

Blogger Avalanche November 29, 2020 9:05 AM  

@109 "Still comes off as a fumbling way to handle it and feed the narrative of the mainstream media, but whatever. I'm sure there's some angle on that, too."

Think of it this way:

"SQUIRREL!"

Blogger Avalanche November 29, 2020 9:25 AM  

@135 "Now, does Sidney Powell have the goods? At this point I am doubting it along with many other Trump supporters, but I'm also sure we're all secretly hoping she does."

Argh. Aligning yourself with your enemies is NOT a good look.

Instead of feeding your audience their own false belief to help it grow: flip it and couch it in terms that ALIGNS you with them but not their beliefs. Throw a spanner in it their position! Try this:

"Now, does Sidney Powell have the goods? At this point, I can't say that I know for 100% sure, because I don't. But people who've known and worked with Powell for decades and her own court cases say and show -- and Powell herself had said many times -- that she does not ever say anything she cannot already prove."

Do you see the difference? Your phrasing was defeating yourself and helping our enemies. Being a staunch Trump supporter does NOT mean blindly swearing allegiance and playing Pollyanna -- it means, to the minor extend you can, you ALIGN your words to seem to match what little you can of what you are being told is "their truth."

You must display confidence even when yours feels shaky. "Be the strong horse!" You must think of yourself as *consoling* the person who is "secretly hoping" -- and even if you would like some secret consolation, that's NOT your job! Your job is to defend and support the General of your Army. Don't be limp. That only serves our enemies!

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