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Saturday, December 05, 2020

Banning the banners

 Mailchimp is banned by Slickstack

Starting immediately, SlickStack has begun warning WordPress sites that have MailChimp software installed that we will begin banning it by default at some point in the near future.

(Note: users are always free to install their own plugin blacklist.txt file, instead of using the default one.)

This is in accordance with our official goals of maximizing free speech and website portability, and helping users to avoid implementing services or extensions that will likely present conflicts later on in their website’s life cycle, esp. regarding stability, security, or portability.

Over the past few years, MailChimp’s “leftist” activism and Orwellian censorship has gotten more and more bold. Among many others who have been arbitrarily banned for political reasons include Stefan Molyneux, March for Trump, VICE founder Gavin McInnes, and Alex Jones, and even a random women’s issues blogger named Emma.

Ironically after Alex Jones was banned, his InfoWars emails are now being powered by the Amazon AWS cloud, meaning that the smaller independent MailChimp is literally just pushing users into Big Tech services instead, or creating totally new IaaS services from the ground up, like Parler, Gab, and many others.

At long last we have the answer to the question of who will watch the watchers. Apparently, smaller independent watchers upon whom the watchers have begun to rely. 

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Blogger liberranter December 05, 2020 5:23 PM  

Ironically after Alex Jones was banned, his InfoWars emails are now being powered by the Amazon AWS cloud, meaning that the smaller independent MailChimp is literally just pushing users into Big Tech services instead

Can we be absolutely sure that this isn't intentional? Is there a partnership/acquisition move going on behind the scenes that we are not yet aware of? Just asking. Absurd an idea as that seems, it is difficult to believe that MailChimp would not be aware of how counter-productive and self-defeating their censorship efforts are.

Blogger thechortling December 05, 2020 5:35 PM  

Is there an SJW-Chinofree Linux on which to base all this?

Given the convergence and asymmetric war waged by China for the better part of a decade, how can open source in general be trusted?Linux...all the way through to this scripted WordPress install

Blogger Dole December 05, 2020 5:45 PM  

Thanks for the white pill, awesome read.

Blogger Glenn December 05, 2020 5:46 PM  

If I had an internet blog, I'd make my pseudonym Dr. Bruce Banner.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 05, 2020 5:51 PM  

Begun, the cancel wars have.

Blogger Crew December 05, 2020 6:26 PM  

No doubt the Pedo-in-chief will ban the banning of the banners!

Blogger Sillon December 05, 2020 6:45 PM  

thechortling wrote:Is there an SJW-Chinofree Linux on which to base all this?

Given the convergence and asymmetric war waged by China for the better part of a decade, how can open source in general be trusted?Linux...all the way through to this scripted WordPress install


Yes, lots.

Like everything in life requires to know what you're doing.

IMHO I will never understand why people use MailChimp in the first place...

Blogger Tom December 05, 2020 6:49 PM  

@1 Read "In Search of Stupidity" by Merrill Chapman. Don't ascribe to sneaky business maneuvering what can be adequately ascribed to simple idiocy. Especially when woke virtue signaling is involved.

Blogger Charmaine December 05, 2020 6:50 PM  

Wow. This is breathe of fresh air. At first I thought it was the same old story: known company [Mailchimp] banned unknown company.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 05, 2020 6:59 PM  

Open Source if (theoretically) trustable because:
1) the software license cannot be revoked. No one can tell you you are not allowed to run it.
2) all the code is open to review. By itself this means little, because it's hundreds or millions of lines of code and you'd have to be a specialist with no job to actually review it yourself.
OTOH, for, say, Linux, there are thousands of specialists reviewing it every day. So the odds of successfully hiding anything there are quite remote.
From time to time, various project try to insert a code of conduct or alter the license to prevent DoD or Stormfront from using it. The Open Source community views these attempts at censorship as bugs and routes around them by forking the code and ignoring their fits.

Blogger David The Good December 05, 2020 7:13 PM  

@Sillon

"IMHO I will never understand why people use MailChimp in the first place..."

Because it is one of the easiest to use email marketing platforms and has a low barrier to entry. I've used it for years. Replacing it is not easy.

Blogger Jon P. R. December 05, 2020 7:20 PM  

I guess that's good. I'd like to see it spread obvously, but I've never used or even heard of slickstack. Not sure how popular it is, but it can't be too popular.

Blogger liberranter December 05, 2020 7:40 PM  

@10 Snidely:

That's an excellent summation of Open Source in general and Linux in particular. Whenever there are issues with a Linux distribution, it's almost always an issue of quality control in the code of the packages that make up the distribution, not something malicious (after all, the code for everything is OPEN SOURCE and available to anyone to examine). It's really a question of deciding which of the hundreds of distributions available is right for your system and needs.

Blogger Jon P. R. December 05, 2020 7:58 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:1) the software license cannot be revoked. No one can tell you you are not allowed to run it.

This isn't always the case, it depends on what open source license is used. I have personally, as well as many other developers I know, been screwed over out of using code from projects that were initially released under GNU or MIT open source licenses that allowed use and modification which later changed their licenses. It depends on where you are using things. One case was with using another project's open source code with the applicable and appropriate license in a wordpress plugin, and the authors of the project complained to wordpress about it and wordpress removed our plugin.

As with anything else, it all depends on a variety of factors in reality and not just on the truth of the matter or what the license used stipulates.

Blogger Bezzle December 05, 2020 8:21 PM  

@8. Tom December 05, 2020 6:49 PM
@1 Read "In Search of Stupidity" by Merrill Chapman. Don't ascribe to sneaky business maneuvering what can be adequately ascribed to simple idiocy. Especially when woke virtue signaling is involved.


To hell with Hanlon's Razor. Invert it exactly 100% of the time regards anything even obliquely political.

The stupidity of woke useful-idiot foot-soldiers does not matter, because they're just the hired meat.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 05, 2020 8:24 PM  

If you obtain the code under the open source license, the right to use, modify and distribute the code is irrevocable. A later release may be under a different license, and the moment it is is the moment you should start a plan for removing that program/library/plug-in/app from your systems.
Putting yourself under the authority of WordPress is a bad move generally.

Blogger crescent wrench December 05, 2020 8:46 PM  

@1

Every cloud provider I know of already provides mail list management and mass emailing services.
While these services are of value to prevent in-house customers from looking too hard at other cloud competitors, they're FAR from the primary service offered: more like the cloud provider equivalent of 'free refills on soda'.

Why on earth would they pay to buy up incompatible, parallel systems?

Blogger Jon P. R. December 05, 2020 9:12 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:If you obtain the code under the open source license, the right to use, modify and distribute the code is irrevocable.

As I said previously, things do not usually go by the book in reality. You sound very much like someone who has read lots but not done much based on your perspective given here.

Blogger Vankhouse December 05, 2020 10:13 PM  

#Wokechimp

Blogger Snidely Whiplash December 05, 2020 11:08 PM  

Jon P. R. wrote:You sound very much like someone who has read lots but not done much based on your perspective given here.
I've been managing *nix systems for more than 30 years. I had code in the OpenBSD kernel for a while. I've been involved, peripherally, in 3 lawsuits over the rights of opensource authors and distributors.
Irrevocable, perpetual license, subject only to specific restrictions regarding redistribution. These license provisions are fully enforcable in court. The suits are relatively common and don't take very long to decide.

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