Mailvox: Google censoring text messages
A reader writes of his recent discovery concerning Google's apparent interference with Android text messaging.
I’m a longtime lurker and a never-poster. I came across something very interesting on Sunday, December 13th. Perhaps you’re already aware of this, but I figured I’d pass it along in case you are not.
A friend and I were texting on Sunday. He has an android phone and I have an iPhone. I texted him a link to “thedonald.win,” a website I’ve been reading for election info. It took quite a bit of back-and-forth, including us each taking screenshots of our phones, but eventually we figured out that his android phone was censoring texts that included the url for the website above. I’ve since tested it with several other friends who have android devices, with the same result. iPhone-to-iPhone transmission appears to be fine.
This was a bit of a redpill moment for us. I’m certainly a believer in the Plan, but was still pretty shocked to see such conspicuous actions being taken. I figured (stupidly) that text messages would be a bit more sacrosanct than twitter or YouTube have proven to be.
Anyway, you are of course free to pass this along to your readers if you want. I promptly bought a protonmail account and am trying to divest myself of all google devices. This is not an easy thing for many of us. Perhaps a comprehensive list of non-converged platforms would be in order.
They're getting very desperate indeed. It's a good time to move from Gmail to ProtonMail or another mail service that respects user privacy.
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115 Comments:
I use Signal for text messaging. It's end-to-end encrypted (between Signal users). The only problem is not many other users use Signal.
And more behavior that doesn't correlate with the belief Xiden won it fair and square and will be inaugurated next month. Google truly is run by gammas. What do you call a group of gammas anyway? An Annoyance of Gammas? A Disgust of Gammas?
Arrests are Imminent; and these Traitorous Scum *know it*. Their time is *up*.
Perhaps there is a market for a RT lexis based smart phone. I know there were several in the works a few years ago that died mainly due to lack of customer interest.
More behavior not congruent with the notion that Xiden won fair and square instead of through massive Demonrat fraud. By the way, this is my second attempt at posting a comment. The first attempt was swallowed by the red screen of death.
This happened between family members and I after the election about non election topics. Switch to aps like Line or Telegraph to have better messages.
FWIW I am able to receive a link to that url on my Android in the US.
If you haven't seen it on the other page, people are reporting that gmail is straight out lying about the existence of email addresses when this blog is linked in a message, and otherwise delivering emails properly.
I dusted off an old non-gmail address to test this out with, but even my anodyne control email resulted in a "550: 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist" failure message. Possibly some back end issues going on exacerbating the gmail side of things, but it's easy to mount an attack with the blatant libel in the messages that do make it through with your URL.
All your Googles are belong to us now.
Many Dashboard Confessional suddenly spring to mind as I think about how Google is responding to its apparent self-immolation.
Not entirely sure about that. Just tried it now between two Android phones -- granted they're both Samsung, but using the Google Messages app -- and it works just fine. It could also be that Canadian carriers are less sensitive about this, thinking they don't have a dog in this hunt.
I just sent an SMS from my Skype account to my Android phone and it passed the url fine.
I've tried dropping links to hereistheevidence.com in youtube comments with some obfuscation, extra spaces, spelling out the dot, etc. Every comment disappears into the ether. All of us lurkers are being driven out of our cozy dens by the rising waters of the Rubicon.
On the same line,one of the competing Afghan governments -- this is the Taliban one -- has a web site alemarahenglish.net When I tried to post the name of that site on FaceBook, as part of a discussion, I got the responder that I was not allowed to post that name. Similarly, I attempted to run a Facebook ad for my science fiction club, The National Fantasy Fan Federation. [Founded 1941 by the likes of EE Smith and Damon Knight.] I was asked to supply keywords, so I tried listing major SF publishers. The would not take a list of keywords that included Baen, but would take the obvious competitors.
Never thought I'd say this, but I might want to switch to an iphone. RIP - Windows Phone!
The level of desperation we are currently witnessing is a sure sign that we're nearing the endgame. Exciting times.
just tried texting www.thedonald.win to two android friends
worked
trust no one
check everything
No clue what might happened with your commenter
The God Emperor better pull the trigger soon. The swamp is going all out and is baring its fangs.
Its getting scary.
Cannot confirm, those links work ok on my Androids.
Than again I am not in USA.
I just confirmed on my android device that this is true. I shouldnt be surprised but this feels like such a sickening violation. I really need to peel myself away from google products completely.
It is clear to me now that the SJWs at Google think they now have free rein to censor or ban anyone to the right of Mao because Biden "won" the election. The evidence is in this blog post and the previous one describing marking VP as "dangerous".
Just tested texting said link between android devices and saw nothing out of the ordinary. I never browse thedonald.win, perhaps I'm not on a list that the emailer and his friend are.
This reminds me of WW2 war planning where opposing forces and fortresses were reduced to a timetable. X battalion at Z river - halt advance 8hrs. A regiment in B fortress - hold out 24hrs.
It is apparent their original plan for suppression is not working and are taking extra steps to slow the velocity of information, blocking the axis of advance with more assets in the hope of preventing the truth's arrival on time.
Well, if Google is trying to slow things down, I will speed them up!
This appears to be legit. I have an Android phone and just texted a "A link to thedonald.win" from my Android phone to my wife's iPhone. It showed up instantly on her phone. Then I took her iPhone and sent a text to my Android phone that simply said "I got thedonald.win link". After 20 minutes the text still had not shown up on my phone. Then 20 minutes later I sent another text from her iPhone to my Android that simply said "testing". It came in instantly. So there is definitely something fishy going on.
Started getting this WARNING from Google today...
Apparently Google does not appreciate you pointing out their sneaky underhanded methods of censorship.
https://ibb.co/Wc38gZt
Well, I just encountered the big, red, scary screen of death when I clicked on the URL...
Evidently, I was about to lose my first born male child.
I'm willing, so...
Just tried this to and from my Galaxy s10e to and from my Iphone Xr and the site was not blocked by text either way. I wonder if they stopped blocking it or if they are only targeting certain phones. The Samsung is up to date but the Iphone is not. Curious though.
Hmmm, I just tried it with two android phones and it is not happening for me.
That is, "thedonald.win" came through fine via SMS.
I just tried Android to Android and it sent as normal (I've sent that link before to folks). Interesting, though. I've been wondering when "they" would start censoring texts between people. We may be there.
Also interesting that gmail is having massive problems at the moment, too. Two days in a row Google communication services have had issues.
So Vox, what are you going to do with all the loot? That'll be a damned high pile of skulls.
Tried this with my brother's iPhone to my android, thedonald.win went through just fine
However, sending an email to a gmail account with voxday.blogspot.com still causes it to go into the spam folder and display the big red message saying that it is trying to steal people's information.
I just tested this (15 Dec, 3:38 PM PST) between an ATT android to Verizon android and the name was converted to a URL on the way to the Verizon phone and the URL version came to ATT without blocking
I seen lots of latency problems with text delivery on Android. Is Google scanning every text and flagging certain words?
I believe it’s, “A Craven of Gammas”
I can't even send some links through Telegram to an Apple device.
Getting a Google phone has been the worst thing ever, which I had little choice to do when I broke my old Android phone (which was already 'throttled') and had to go through an insurance claim.
I constantly receive random numbers calling me and hanging up immediately when I answer. And if I decline the call with an automated text message someone will reply asking who this is, and then I tell them they just called me, to which the other person replies no they haven't, to which I reply with a screenshot of my call history proving that their number called me, to which they reply with a screenshot of their own recent calls log that they did not and we both say oh that's strange and leave it at that. This happened twice before I stopped sending the automated message. And I also get lots of text message soliciting, at least 10x more than what I got on my old Android which was maybe 1 or 2 a week.
I'm seriously considering switching back to a flip phone with no data plan just to unplug from the botnet. ONWARDS TO BEARTARIA!!!
This is almost certainly your ell carrier. There is virtually no way for Google to censor your texts, but the carrier has control from end to end.
I built these systems. This is how they work:
[phone]->[tower]
[tower]->[regional messaging facilty]
[regional messaging facility]<->[user location register]
[if needed]
[regional messaging facility]->[target messaging facility]
[target messaging facility]-> [tower]
[tower] -> [target phone]
an SMS message or MMS message is under the control of the carriers the whole time, and they have both the ability and the motive to easily and quickly scan it for content.
I believe it’s, “a Craven of Gammas.”
BTW, your text messages, all of them, are stored in a massive business intelligence/data warehouse database. This is true of all carriers that I know of, in the US at least.
#2. A Google of Gammas.
Within 15 seconds of emailing a screenshot of the warning to vox, both my husband and I received multiple spam text messages to our Android phones, containing links that undoubtedly would have harmed our devices. I suppose that could be a coincidence, but I doubt it.
A bro of mine has been screaming for a year .....
They WON"T capitalize Trumps name when i text it!!!
Verizon was censoring text messages linked to Larry Boomer's Florida campaign IIRC.
If this is a phone carrier in USA identify which one and sue them too.
Link is blocked when I send via 2ndLine app to my android.
Signal is excellent. I use it for anything private or business related. I keep an old AOL account for general stuff. A Gmail for odds and ends, and Proton mail for personal and business.
My Android phone often censors texts that link to this blog.
I got this to diversify from Apples little garden prison. I live in Silicon Valley and they are disgusting in their groupthink.
#32 "However, sending an email to a gmail account with voxday.blogspot.com still causes it to go into the spam folder and display the big red message saying that it is trying to steal people's information."
Never got that far. When I tried it from my Yahoo account Google said my Gmail account did not exist and the email never arrived.
If I didn't have to have a smart phone for work, I'd have never given up my flip phone.
I remember a time when being on a list meant something but now everyone's on some list somewhere...
; _ ;
The judges would have also accepted a "Peterson" of Gammas, a "Envy" of Gammas, and a "Squirt" of Gammas.
Considering in Canada that I don't even have access to my own phone records without a subpoena, I suspect that this violates my... "country's" privacy laws.
I'll be sure to mention it to our new Chinese overlords.
A Vomit of Gammas.
A turd of gammas
Same here in canada, but i tested android to android
"I was at the coffee shop when I ran into a wall of gammas!"
Every time I open Gmail phone sounds like old dial up every time my finger comes close to the screen same when texting and hearing computer chatter when phones close to any receiver. not using that phone.
The comment box has been requiring me to sign in A LOT lately
Someone on another forum pointed out this could be specific to a phone carrier. I mentioned in an earlier comment my Android phone (Samsung S9) will not get a text message that has TheDonald.win in the text. That phone happens to be on the T-Mobile network. The CEO of T-Mobile is a rabid lefty, so it could be related to phone carrier. Would need to do more research to verify. But I don't have an Android phone on another network.
Hi Vox, under my reckoning of EO 13848, each and every executive are traitors and all company assets are forfeited. Stunningly stupid-- but also brilliant as it is part of the We Have Everything plan
Also thanks to your reader who reached out to you, I have a new bookmark! thedonald.win
My texts to a friend involving this blog are now getting blocked. I can also confirm weirdness for links in general not working since Sunday.
From my Google Voice number on an Android phone and a Windows desktop.
Crew wrote:However, sending an email to a gmail account with voxday.blogspot.com still causes it to go into the spam folder and display the big red message saying that it is trying to steal people's information.
thedonald.win went through for me just fine from Yahoo to gmail, but I just got the same gmail behavior you did for the blog link. Looked just like the picture in the blog post.
There are several open source android OS you can flash to your phone, and there are at least one that is de-Googled, with every reference to Google rewritten out.
Me, personally, if I wanted a totally Google free phone, I'd go Linux.
I have, and use, a dozen email addresses from my domain name, so I don't route much of anything to my google mail any more. I would be totally google free if there was a convenient calendar service to use with my android phone, but there aren't any that don't involve more work than I want to do to get it working. Google is damned hard to excise out of your life, and takes real work to do it.
A vomit of google gammas. This is really getting tiresome.
I knew there would be a dick of gammas there so I didn’t go.
A Karen of Gammas
An arcanum of gammas
Could it just be an out of control spam filter?
A giggle of gammas.
I knew there would be a dick of gammas there so I didn’t go.
A Revulsion of Gammas.
Oh yeah, Brave and Firefox suddenly don't like you VD. Tried em both.
People I know are reporting that they are not censored on their phone, so I would suspect that it is more related to the cell text message provider than the operating system.
Well, they are now censoring this site because accessing it from a win10/chrome laptop I now get a red page with a warning sign stating "The site ahead contains harmful programs" before every single page...
No issues with MS Edge.
How bizarre. A Microsoft product outperforming the rest. Someone in Renton ain't converging hard enough.
No issues with MS Edge.
How bizarre. A Microsoft product outperforming the rest. Someone in Renton ain't converging hard enough.
What Snidely said. Also, the text messaging app on an Android phone is usually provided by the manufacturer, not a Google program. I can't say it would be impossible for Google to slip something in there to tamper with it, but it's much more likely that the sender's or receiver's carrier is blocking it.
I get the red screen of death, but none of my multiple virus/threat network programs activate in the least.
Hahahahah this is fun.
I just got an email from Proton Mail saying that Gmail is experiencing a global outage. I haven't used gmail in months so I don't know.
Comprehensive warfare kicked up a notch?
jarheadljh wrote:Oh yeah, Brave and Firefox suddenly don't like you VD. Tried em both.
Must be because they are reading off the same blacklist url of unsafe and spam websites.
All the Antiviruses of mine are also flagging your website.
a royal court of gammas
I degoogled my android device a few months back and moved off all their services. Look up microG for lineageOS with no Gapps. New pipe is a great YouTube client where you can sub with no Google account. Of coarse now a days any interesting channel is on bitchute and removed from YouTube. Google continues to make themselves more and more irrelevant.
I can confirm this is happening, I agree with Snidely. This may be a carrier doing it. I don't know if it's SMSC specific or carrier, but something is going on. I've done some testing with a number of friends and family. I'm on T-mob. iPhone or Android - doesn't matter as long as it's SMS (not imessage).
T-mob to T-mob message received.
AT&T to T-mob not received.
Sprint (but now T-mob, but not fully) to T-mob hit or miss.
Verizon to T-mob - Unknown
Definitely something is up. It might just be T-mobile and old news.
https://thedonald.win/p/HElLV2uX/urgent-tmobile-caught-censoring-/c/
https://thedonald.win/p/11Q8lWZbEp/confirmed-t-mobile-is-actively-c/c/
As of 6:34pm PST. I ran into a Google "Harmful Program Warning when I "refreshed the web page, after returning home. I had looked at your site in the morning, without problem, but have run into the warning, when refreshing the page. This is getting ridiculous.
That’s not all they’re doing, SDL. https://www.unsilencedvoice.com/posts/77106/
I had something weird happen to me on YouTube a while back. I had left a comment on a video & GOOGLE emailed me to delete it. It wasn't even that edgy of a comment. I don't make content, am just strictly a commenter.
I asked the person who's video I commented under about it, and they were shocked.
Anyone else had that, because I haven't found another.
They’re using spoofed numbers. They put on a local number to make you answer.
Unknownsailor wrote:Me, personally, if I wanted a totally Google free phone, I'd go Linux.
Is there a Linux phone that actually functions as a phone, with calls and texts actually working reliably, actually able to answer a call when the phone is suspended in your pocket?
Thanks for the news site!
It goes even beyond the red screen now. Occasionally it straight up says "website blocked" with a gray screen seconds before the red screen appears.
A snark of gammas
Going with the Peterson/lobster theme, we could say a pod of Gammas.
KJE wrote:I believe it’s, “A Craven of Gammas”
This is my favorite, though all the other suggestions were excellent as well!
Tried on Google Messenger with an Android using buddy. No link blocking. Both in US
Snidley is correct, again. MMS is carrier-controlled and operated. You can text to a landline which indicates the message is transmitted on carrier property.
Back in the 90s Albertan telephones used to be government owned. You legit had to go to the government phone store and choose from a set of options your landline receiver. I remember going with my mom to upgrade and she brought the telephone with her because it was a rental. The phone system was later privatized.
This reminds me of a few months ago wen the /TGD/ threads on 4chan were still going. I tried a message with a link to a livestream of the dam to a friend over fb messenger. The message would not send and would outright delete itself from my end of the chat window. I'd sent messages immediately before and after to the same person, so it definitely wasn't a network error.
Girlfriend's iPhone can send thedonald.win to my OnePlus 6t over T-mobile
There are at least two Linux phones out there. Librem and Pine64.
confirmed. the ios telegram client must censor certain things at apples request.
the same censored stuff works just fine on other clients
Carrier pigeons FTW.
Didn't Google eradicate a word for the entire English speaking world?
"Covfefe"
A "Cry of Gammas"
A Queef of Gammas
Open Source Smartphones: will they really help? Not sure, but here a two of which I am aware.
PINEPHONE
An Open Source Smart Phone Supported by All Major Linux Phone Projects. https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/
Librem 5
Purism’s Librem products are the only modern high-end devices where you are in control and have complete visibility into the operating system, all bundled software, and the deeper levels of your computer. Every Librem comes with free international shipping, a one year hardware warranty and lifetime software updates with PureOS. And our software updates are intended to make your hardware run better over time, not worse.
https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/
I also had issues texting links to the Million MAGA March last month. I have an Android device, it wouldn't let me send it, but others could get through. I had to put the link into a Google Doc, and then share the Google Doc.
weka wrote:There are at least two Linux phones out there. Librem and Pine64.
I've been in contact with the Pinephone folks. They say it's definitely not fully functional. Librem is a maybe, haven't contacted them yet.
Hm, does this censoring of text-messages destroy the protections afforded to telecommunications?
After all, the reason that they're held immune from being an accomplice is because they are generally not to monitor the communications they facilitate.
Joe wrote:The God Emperor better pull the trigger soon. The swamp is going all out and is baring its fangs.
Its getting scary.
Nearly everything Trump has done has shown a DEEP reluctance to do anything that could damage the authority of any government institution, even when they are acting far outside the limits of their lawful authority and against the Constitution itself, damaging the legitimacy of the government itself.
Snidely Whiplash wrote:This is almost certainly your ell carrier. There is virtually no way for Google to censor your texts, but the carrier has control from end to end.
I built these systems.
[…]
an SMS message or MMS message is under the control of the carriers the whole time, and they have both the ability and the motive to easily and quickly scan it for content.
Interesting. But the same question applies: If they are scanning/filtering content, doesn't that remove their legal protections?
OneWingedShark wrote:Interesting. But the same question applies: If they are scanning/filtering content, doesn't that remove their legal protections?
Unlikely. Think like your adversaries. Do you think that there is some allowance for telecommunications systems to disrupt terrorist or threatening communications without "remov[ing] their legal protections"?
Now the trick is just to make an "honest mistake" miscategorizing your target messages as "unsafe". And when it comes to Wikileaks, it's an easy sell to the feds.
A buttload of gammas.
OneWingedShark wrote:Nearly everything Trump has done has shown a DEEP reluctance to do anything that could damage the authority of any government institution, even when they are acting far outside the limits of their lawful authority and against the Constitution itself, damaging the legitimacy of the government itself.
I do expect him to achieve that second term. I don't expect him to ever visibly do anything drastic. If he crosses the Rubicon, expect it to be almost unnoticeable, not an event.
Has anyone seen Gina Haspel lately?
Wow. Any telephone company doing this is violating their common carrier status, and putting themselves back in the EARLY 20th century, when telephone companies were being prosecuted for partaking in criminal conspiracies for crimes in which the culprits did any planning over the phone.
Verizon stockholders should call for an immediate stockholders meeting to clean house, starting at the board of directors and working downwards through the entire company save for the retail store personnel
OMG! I just tested this and it's true. Holy SHIT! WTF!
I did a bunch more experimenting. This appears to be a problem with all .win sites. At least on the 2 phones I was testing with. Apparently several people here are NOT seeing the problem. Maybe it's an android version issue. Both phone I used are fairly dated.
I have two carriers available to access this site. Both are giving warning. One carrier grew out of the Albertan government's deregulation of telephone service and the other is a subsidiary of it for those with not so good credit. If I'm seeing the same problem on two carriers I can conclude it's a carrier issue.
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