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As this reader's email demonstrates, Trump's actions will almost certainly take the Swamp by surprise no matter how clearly he signals it.
Laurence Tribe just tweeted about Trump's EO, which he claims he just learned about, and it frightens him/
Note that Tribe is one of the left-wing legal "heavyweights" who gave the intellectual credibility and push to the impeachment coup. A long-time, "well-respected" Harvard law professor and a Vyshinsky for his masters. He was the law professor who, when Obama was at Harvard Law, claimed Obama helped him to write the much-mocked, crackpot legal article "The Curvature of Constitutional Space" , which I can confirm is nonsense and argle-barge even by the standards of law review articles.
Anyway, the fact that Tribe just today sounded the alarm means I think a shift in The Narrative is coming by in the next few days. Now they will screech about Trump being a banana dictator and how the military should remove him before January 6th---you know, for the sake of "democracy."
Here’s an alarming Trump Executive Order dated 9/12/18 that I somehow missed until now.
It’s EO 13848:
The more people are aware of it, the less likely it will be that Trump can use it to pull off a sneak attack on our liberties before leaving office.
You will observe, of course, what an advantage is conveyed by possessing that vaunted 115 IQ with an advanced degree....
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Maybe if he wasn't, effectively, in a cult he'd see the vast amount of information freely available from unapproved sources and realize these things months earlier.
Anons knew
I lack the words to fully capture how befuddled I am by this.
How can they be THIS SLOW?!?
AND WE'VE BEEN LOSING AGAINST THAT UNTIL NOW?
Given Tribe's long, documented history of sophistry and gaslighting on behalf of the left as a "constitutional scholar", you can consider this validation that the EO is good and decent and right over the target.
How can it affect liberties when the EO is all about foreign interference.
More to the point, not challengeable as muh doctrine of laches and standing.
Hopefully G.E. tweets about it to close the circle.
These people are insufferable to read. The EO only mentions that the President and key staff will receive the report within the first 45 days, nothing about some grand invocation, but all the morons conclude that something needs to have happened by now.
liberties or libertinism?
Well this is embarrassing . Seeing the name 'tribe', @tribelaw, I really really hoped not to find what I expected to find in the early life section.
Sorry on (((their))) behalf fwiw.
Tribe has only three attributes that got him into his position: a high verbal IQ, an ethnic network, and a willingness to take the ticket
Humility is a quality all too many lack, especially midwits.
They, all too often, believe that being humbled is a bad thing. Indeed they cannot even envision a situation in which they can even be in such a state.
It's my personal opinion that government-style proof of the Dominion hack has to come out before Jan 6th so as to give the state legislatures heart and set up the Jan 6th count. But what do I know?
Vox, any thoughts on Trump tweeting martial law is fake news?
When all this is over and done with, it's best to give all cities over 750k population statehood with low electoral votes. This way Georgia won't be held to ransom by Atlanta, Pennsilvania by Philly etc.
They don't pay much attention to what the other side is doing, because they've never had to. Like Clinton with her illegal email server, they could always count on multiple government, media, and corporate institutions to fix things for them. Why study your opponent and plan ahead if the game is rigged for you?
“Sneak attack on our liberties.”
Project much?
Someone please vaccinate this turd.
We've known that Tribe is a midwit at best since he gave a talk at our law school claiming that the 7 year limit on ratifying the ERA could be disregarded under some vague theory of his...Even supporters of the ERA thought it was very lame...
In OODA Loop terms, Tribe is shifting from Observe to Orient, while Trump is poised to move from Decide to Act.
Does anyone truly believe he was unaware of the EO until right now?
I can't wait to see the Left's challenges to this EO dismissed for lack of standing because Laches.
I thought everybody knew about that EO. I guess the communists/Democrats really do live in their own bubble. It is going to really hurt when that bubble gets popped.
Professor Tribe should be kept away from the public list of Presidential Actions. Actions are being signed at roughly the same pace as the last four years, with some very strategic yet practical policy directives from a President who is said to be leaving office in a month or so. We wouldn't want to shock the Professor's delicate system.
We have been conceding against that until now.
Assuming we won't do it again of course.
To our eternal shame.
Born in China too.
What a prime example of an American.
lol look at his commenters
"According to the language of this EO, the time during which it could be invoked, 45 days after an election has taken place, has already passed, therefore any attempt to use this EO to overturn the presidential election cannot be justified by this EO."
apart from being dumber, less good looking, and generally not as perspicacious as the SDL's minions, they fail to note that GEOTUS doesn't have to wait for a report:
"(d) Nothing in this order shall prevent the head of any agency or any
other appropriate official from tendering to the President, at any time through
an appropriate channel, any analysis, information, assessment, or evaluation
of foreign interference in a United States election.
(e) If information indicating that foreign interference in a State, tribal,
or local election within the United States has occurred is identified, it
may be included, as appropriate, in the assessment mandated by section
1(a) of this order or in the report mandated by section 1(b) of this order,
or submitted to the President in an independent report."
Yes.
They are freaking out on Twitter as the media learned the words 'martial law.'
There is a current push in the media to "debunk" any possible legitimate use of martial law in an effort to pre-define any action Trump takes as an illegitimate use of "martial law" .
In other words, they are afraid of what's coming.
Leftism is not merely a mental disorder, it’s a foreign language. I haven’t been the (default Dem) variety in over 30 years (now 55). I’ve long forgotten how to think so stupidly. It is a major effort now to even read something they write. Like that scene in Daces with Wolves of Stands With Fist trying to say John Donebear, it’s a discarded language to me.
Here’s my take for what it’s worth:
Trump extinguished (maybe) martial law. But he suspiciously didn’t extinguish insurrection act. There’s an important difference. The former overrules the constitution, the latter enforces it.
VI. What the Thunder Said
Even as rising, rain-redolent wind
And the distant trembling it carries portend
For the wary the coming of storms
Whose energies the most terrible bombs
Cannot rival, so for men in those days
With sense intact the time to agonize
Was past, the facts these lines belabor
Unmistakable signals to prepare.
As a man prepares his family home
To face the hurricane, their wisdom
Shaped all that remained in their favor
For that imminent, momentous war
That would decide the future, the fate
Of the infant not yet risen to his feet.
http://forthesonsofthewest.home.blog
Yes. If he knew what he was doing, he wouldn’t be spreading the news of it.
pyrrhus wrote:We've known that Tribe is a midwit at best since he gave a talk at our law school claiming that the 7 year limit on ratifying the ERA could be disregarded under some vague theory of his...Even supporters of the ERA thought it was very lame...
If you went to law school, you know the type that Tribe is: The Grind!
Very average IQ and can write well enough, but spends 12-14 hours a day, 365 days a year, in somebody's Law Library, reading and re-reading and memorizing, rather tham comprehending or sythesizing material and opinions! Dullards, actually.
Looking for a second pair of eyes on this, but the EO's policy actions are prescribed against foreign persons and nations.
I can see it used as a vengeful sword against the kickback streams of the swamp, but not to deal with the domestic consequences of their corruption.
Pratisara wrote:When all this is over and done with, it's best to give all cities over 750k population statehood with low electoral votes. This way Georgia won't be held to ransom by Atlanta, Pennsilvania by Philly etc.
Better yet, all urbanized areas should be excluded from Statehood, and from participation in state or national government.
Want to live in the big city? You can vote for your city government, but cannot vote in the state or federal elections, cannot get any funding from state or federal governments.
The big cities are pervert magnets, fertility destroyers, and unavoidably become dens of iniquity. People who want to live there should be free to do so - indeed, we don't want most of them among us! But people who want to live there should never be allowed to have power over us, nor be allowed to steal our tax money for their subsistence.
Looks like this Laurence is trying to go the same way as his namesake.
OVB wrote:Vox, any thoughts on Trump tweeting martial law is fake news?
"Martial law
From Infogalactic: the planetary knowledge core
Not to be confused with Marital law.
For the television series, see Martial Law (TV series).
Dunmore's Proclamation declaring Martial law in the Colony of Virginia, proclaimed November 14, 1775, several months after the beginning of the American Revolutionary War
Martial law is the imposition of the highest-ranking military officer as the military governor or as the head of the government, thus removing all power from the previous executive, legislative, and judicial branches of government.[1] It is usually imposed temporarily when the government or civilian authorities fail to function effectively (e.g., maintain order and security, or provide essential services)."
Does this sound like anything Trumnp would do?
Shortly, we'll see the MSM's clapping seals regurgitate Tribe's density. They'll assure everyone, "Tribe's brilliant, you know."
The tribe figured very prominently in the early founding of Chinese communism.
The irony is that EO was partially to placate the Russia Collusion crowd who screamed Russian interference with little material evidence outside of Facebook ads.
Tribe as in "The Tribes"?
It is like Sesame Street with the Leftist Media and the Word today is "overthrow". WE are all to use that word in every sentence, or at least every article, and every press release, even if it is completely unrelated. Say "overthrow" every chance you get.
Somehow it was not "overthrow" to fraud the election a dozen different ways to tip the results to the loser, to steal a landslide from the winner, to take over the government of the United States and install a foreign puppet, already well-established on the payroll in Washington AND Peking. It is not "overthrow" to decorate the sock puppet with every FAR Leftist policy wet dream and empower him with unprecedented powers and authority that no president ever commanded to carry out that wish list.
It is only an "overthrow" to correct the effects of these crimes, arrest those responsible, and refuse to go along with the seance (because that would be on the Wrong Side of History). After all, you don't want to miss the bus.
Clearly, the word "overthrow" is the new term for "counter-revolution". The worst thoughts are reserved in the communist mind for those "counter-revolutionaries" who would un-do all the hopeful and promising things that the Revolution was to bring about. The election of 2020 will be long remembered much like the storming of the Winter Palace in St. Petersburg or the Bastille in Paris. It is the direct manifestation of the Revolution against the established order and the creation of an opposing authority, that will define the civil war that follows. The Left has decided now is the time to strike and they are not going to hold back or wait for fair weather or a better shot. They must know by now, there will not be another shot if they fail. They must win or lose in a big way. No more "next time".
If Biden was in on the sting the whole time, he got the fun part. Someone basically said, "act really dumb and senile." Joe says "how?" They answer Joe "we'll give you a bunch of pills and THC, just have a good time, and tell us everything. In the future, you'll admit to the whole thing and we'll pardon you and your numbskull son. Joe "Party on."
Maybe Joe is a Patriot, more likely he got caught and was flipped years ago.
Perhaps lawyers should not try to write about physics.
No. Make them territories for ten generations. If you want to vote, live outside of the diverse outposts.
Bear in mind that the reason that they don't know about such things is because they are of no relevance to them whatsoever - "Do what thou wilt shall be the whole of the law"
The fact that this guy Tribe even noticed this indicates that he's the smartest one on their team.
"How can it affect liberties when the EO is all about foreign interference."
When you come to the realization that there are people in your government and various agencies of, media/entertainment, academia, and etc. that believe China is the template for America, and the world, then you will understand that question.
China is the template for the NWO and the Great Reset. You will also understand why it is advantageous to these people that America and Russia-Russia-Russia engage in war.
@44:
You don't want them to move elsewhere. That's how OR, WA, NM, and CO got Californicated.
The other day some high IQ commenter asked in bad faith why Trump didn't cross the Rubicon immediately after the election.
Back then the consensus was that we should fight the legal battle and expose the fraud. The theory that it would be possible to challenge the system from inside the system was quite a bit of hopium from the beginning, but now we know.
Now the consensus seems to be that we should go to war and address the evil directly. Steps further than the Rubicon crossing. And I am looking comments at Tim Pool's milk toast channel.
Everyone should come to the January 6th protest, the God-Emperor has made a request. And do recall, being nice and cucking out, is evil.
Red Flag Laws, War in Syria, PreExisting Conditions
Common denominator?
180°
Do you remember the case in which a man sued some major metro pd, NYNP?, because they refused to either train or employ him, due to having a higher IQ? Well, that is academia, only fifteen points higher than the police.
They know who is smarter, and avoid them. Fear them? I think so. Can't be an atheist with an higher IQ? Part of it. Though, to be a petty bureaucratic sort, it's socially required to be... limited.
Don't forget the #1 rule. SJWs Always Lie.
As for Trump squashing martial law - LOL. That comment made me laugh.
Hey people! "EO" stands for EXECUTIVE ORDER. Get it? You can wiggle all you want to, it is an order to be deployed on command.
Evidently he doesn't know the meaning of the word "order". Please, somebody tell him what that word means. I've lost patience.
>> Does this sound like anything Trumnp would do?
If Trump declared the government of the State of Michigan to be either in rebellion, or committing insurrection, I would be extremely satisfied if the senior officer in Michigan's department of military and veteran's affairs, The Adjutant General, were made the military governor of Michigan. I served under him when he was the commanding officer of 1st Battalion, 125th Infantry in the MIARNG. A true leader, patriotic as can be, and would be a very bright light in these troubling times. He would also have most of the political class in Lansing, and Wayne County, as well as Oakland County and Washtenaw (Ann Arbor, Univ. of Michigan...the Berzerkely of the Midwest... Also where the original members of the Weather Underground (the "Weathermen") were all students when the organization was formed). Ll are numbers also from Genesee County (Flint) and Saginaw County ( Saginaw city).
Corruption in Michigan will drop by 98% one those local and county governments are rolled up.
More likely he got bribed some years ago.
I should hope so.
Yes they did and I would highly recommend that Tribe crawl back into his his hole and then pull the hole in behind himself.
@3. Ivaneus December 20, 2020 9:26 AM
I lack the words to fully capture how befuddled I am by this.
If the vertical structure of the Cabal consists of, at the very top of the pyramind, invisible central bank controllers whose names you don't know, and at the very bottom, ovine herds of mask-wearers, then minions like Tribe are only a few steps removed from rock-bottom, with many, many layers of increasingly shadowy control hierarchy above him.
How can they be THIS SLOW?!? AND WE'VE BEEN LOSING AGAINST THAT UNTIL NOW?
Tribe is in the academic space of the "professional idiot" class containing "famous" narrative-pushing foot-soldiers. Their job is producing voluminous blather to deflect and distract while simultaneously appearing stupid to their detractors (who are, ideally, lulled into complacency after an endorphin-rush of smugness upon realization that they're smarter than this jabbering fool).
He's a sergeant-rank NPC.
@46 What they have in mind is something far worse than China.
I thought they liked martial law? They certainly enjoyed doing it to one section of the country after that whole disloyalty kerfuffle in the late 1800s.
Who am I to campaign against them enjoying something they have so generously shared with others?
For that matter, they still venerate FDR. He knew how to throw an internment camp camp. Who am I to not let them enjoy the hospitality they so generously shared with others?
It’s great when Trump turns the most devout “anti-conspiracy-theorists” into conspiracy theorists.
The topic of martial law has now shown up on CNN's top stories. Just the fact that it is there and being acknowledged is a sign of something. What, I don't pretend to know.
Our government has seized powers relentlessly for decades, and they never give anything up. It's hard to be gleeful about this current state of affairs, and it's impossible to really know how we got where we are or who made it happen.
All year long I have observed that people with religious faith, regardless of what, are much more at peace with all the insanity. The faithless are the ones losing their minds.
Trump said he wouldn't order martial law. Go back to sleep, Bidenbros.
He should not be removing anything from the table. He needs to set the example.
Akulkis wrote:>> Does this sound like anything Trumnp would do?
If Trump declared the government of the State of Michigan to be either in rebellion, or committing insurrection, I would be extremely satisfied if the senior officer in Michigan's department of military and veteran's affairs...
Not what I asked. Maybe both of us would prefer it that way, but would TRUMP prefer it that way? Trump can easily invoke the Insurrection Act without imposing martial law, and assuming Insurrection Act is in the plan that is what he is doing, hence him tweeting martial law is fake news. Whatever the plan is, as VD says they already knew they would be doing it going in, but they left enough roof to be pleasantly surprised, and this way the whole world gets to see how far gone the system is.
The commies spend to much time reading alinsky and not enough time reading The Art of War... They do not know themselves. They do not know their enemy.
Thus... they will lose.
@38
The tribe figured very prominently in communism worldwide. FIFY
They invented Communism.
@46 You mean they plan on exterminating people too? Camps maybe? Reeducation? Organ harvesting? Forced abortions? Social Credits?
>>Social Credits?
Saw an article today, IMF suggesting tying credit score to your internet history
That nit wit said that by being informed, GEOTUS could not use the act. Nit wit should look back at Iraq I. Six month build up and then Shock and Awe. I am sure Saddam Hussain thought the same thing. But when the trigger was pulled all things changed. As Vox said you could wave it under their noses but cognative dissonance always rules
That nit wit said that by being informed, GEOTUS could not use the act. Nit wit should look back at Iraq I. Six month build up and then Shock and Awe. I am sure Saddam Hussain thought the same thing. But when the trigger was pulled all things changed. As Vox said you could wave it under their noses but cognative dissonance always rules
If this is the wrong venue to ask, I apologize in advance.
Are there any sites coordinating travel to DC for the 6th?
Where is Augusto? Uncle Adolf also knew how to handle these types. We need a few thousands of the Rafal Ganawicz mentality.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/12/18/telnaes-trump-republican-rats-cartoon/?arc404=true
@68 Yes, that is likely in my opinion.
The entire reason we are in this mess now is because of middling 115 iq doofuses with advanced degrees. The nerd zone. They know just enough to be smarter than most but have no self awareness to know how dumb they really are, nor see anything outside their traumatized bubbles.
@32, @16, One of the interesting things about law school exams is that it selects somewhat equally for both grinders and intuitively smart, connect-the-dots quickly types (eg, high IQ type, mostly). But as far as I can tell, very few of the second group have the patience to grind out law review, etc. There a few standout genius types I've met on faculty who made there way through the clerkship circuit but they are definitely not the norm.
Looking at the total situation, I have to wonder if Trump isn't in possession of information about the relationship between Biden and the rest of the Dems and the Chinese Communist Party that is NOT in the public domain.
Information that would make for a decent Espionage Act case. This is one thing that might just get Trump to cross the Rubicon.
According to this Executive Order, if there is found to have been foreign interference (let's take that as a "yes")
Then it gives a range of financial sanctions, confiscations, blocking of immigrants etc. Which would be great news.
But I can't see anything in this Executive Order about actually overturning the results of such foreigner-interfered-with elections?
I may be missing something...
An interesting thing that I noticed was that the determination of a foreign country violating this order was to be determined by the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Treasury.
Very interesting, given recent statements.
I am Rafal Ganowicz and you are too
Who do you think owns the media?
Fwiw
https://mobile.twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1340749371411935236
#77. The professionalization of any field is always putatively to deal with miscreants and those who shouldn't qualify but with the additional unspoken goal of keeping out the really high IQ who will embarrass the rest of them. And the latter goal is achieved by requiring so much drudgery to qualify that the really high IQ will be turned off by the pointlessness of it.
"Here’s an alarming Trump Executive Order dated 9/12/18 "
EO:
"Section 1. (a) Not later than 45 days after the conclusion of a United States election"
I wonder what the 2018 report on the 2018 election said.
The Covid stimulus is now out of the way as well...
Looking at the total situation, I have to wonder if Trump isn't in possession of information about the relationship between Biden and the rest of the Dems and the Chinese Communist Party that is NOT in the public domain.
The odds of Trump having extremely damning non-public information related to the Bidens and other Dems receiving foreign bribes are nearly 100%.
Some comments by Patrick Byrne on the now-infamous meeting of Trump with Sidney Powell et al.:
"I was there for the full 4.5 hour meeting. Claims military coup/martial law were discussed is 100% fabrication. Trump is lied to by his own advisers, who tell staff 'get the president to concede' while they stall Trump. Meadows + Lawyers Eric, Derek, GC Pat Cippollone (leaker)."
https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1340749371411935236
"My involvement is I was in the room when it happened. The raised voices included my own. I can promise you: President Trump is being terribly served by his advisers. They want him to lose and are lying to him. He is surround[ed] by mendacious mediocrities."
https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1340741500137779201
"In addition, any suggestion if there was talk of a military coup or martial law is also a flat lie. 100% false. I was there for 4 1/2 hours, I heard the entire conversation, that is a 100% fabrication."
https://twitter.com/PatrickByrne/status/1340747321294909444
A coda from Bernard Kerik:
"Real @realDonaldTrump 'confidants' wouldn't be talking to [Jonathan Swan at Axios] or talking about 2024 - they'd be working toward proving his victory in this election. Unfortunately for him, he's surrounded by spineless self serving disloyalists."
https://twitter.com/BernardKerik/status/1340705895899082753
One hopes that this is not the whole story. Thirty days from Biden's prospective inauguration is very late in the day for Trump still to be burdened with Wormtongues in his innermost advisory circle.
"sneak attack on our liberties before leaving office."
As opposed to the broad daylight thefts by Governors over the last nine months, tight there Larry? It's not the President using COVID to frustrate the rights of free assembly or freedom of religion.
The practice of law is of dubious social utility too start with, but when you spend your whole life as an academic, never really practicing law, you are even more disconnected from reality.
The fact that they've elevated a law degree to a doctorate is galling. Anybody with a reasonably good vocabulary and reading skills can get a JD. It's nowhere near an MD or DO in rigor-or any good science PhD for that matter.
Only thing more pretentious is Jill Biden insisting on being called "doctor".
How is it that common folk like myself know gook spooks have infiltrated the highest levels of US gov't yet no one has been hung yet?
You really believe that he was in the room?? I don't.
@88 We hope this is disinfo. IF Trump doesn't do everything in his power to win he's a dead or arrested man and the Republican party is finished. If his "advisors" are telling him to quit then they should be kicked out since they're either too stupid to know what the end result of their advice would be or they're compromised in some way.
Don't you think the people he has this damning, non-public information on, know he has it? I would think they do know. Just not sure what to make of everything yet.
Laurence is so dumb that I have a morbid curiosity about the price of his Ticket. It must've been really high.
Laurence (((Tribe))) - best jew name ever
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