No doubt whose side the military is on
It's not the perfumed princes, selected for ideological conformity and corrupted by their promised pensions and corporate advisory board positions, who matter. It's the young men who actually fight:
The biggest cheer of the day at the 121st annual Army-Navy game Saturday was reserved for President Donald Trump.
“USA! USA!” roared the crowd moments after the president took the field for the pre-game coin toss. He also received a warm reception from members of players representing both academies.

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According to CNN, that's only 75% of the support that Biden would have received.
Having general Flynn talk to the crowd and Trump flying at a relatively low altitude over it in a helicopter... pretty bad ass if you ask me. Very "we are going to war boys!"
Wait! What?! I was assured that Trump was "literally Hitler!"
Academies' leadership is pozzed, but blessings on the cadets who aren't
Beat Navy!
Wonder what the middies and cadets are thinking right about now re: Scotus, state and federal courts State legislatures, Congress, etc.
"I apologize to you. You have been injured by those who wish to injure Ceasar...."
It’s the men in the arena who count, not the critic......
It was very telling. The rousing reception he received gave me goosebumps. Donald is very much loved.
"perfumed princes", hilarious.
inb4 duran duran/cure all-gay-all-day cover band running the free world.
I hear love and enthusiasm for their GEOTUS.
“Numbers nobody’s ever seen before.”
Bad guys, beware.
If the mid-level and senior NCOs are with him, all will be well. Losing most of the flag and post rank officers would be less damaging than expected. Start with overstaffed headquarters and then duplicative command structures.
The special ops guys have seen evidence that the media does not even know exists.
The flag officer ranks have been too heavy for years and are in great need of a thinning the herd.
Watching the videos brought a tear to my eye. This is what GEOTUS deserves, not the venomous hatred he has endured on my behalf.
He just has to say the word and millions will follow his lead. I think he realizes this.
Commander in Chief 1. Perfumed Princes 0.
I do wonder how many young men have been joining the military in the age of Trump.
Seems like quite a few.
How I would love to see the reception the Great Pretender would have gotten.
Trump has only to point to the broken glass for me to crawl over. The proudest thing I've done as an American is to vote for him and give him my total allegiance.
For some reason I remembered something from a book I read years ago. Out of the blue. I forget the title. It was about the second gulf war.
One of the pictures in the book was of a white Toyota pickup with a large American flag on it. They did it because Petreaus mistakenly thought Iraqi insurgents were using white technicals and he ordered any white pickup truck destroyed on site.
This lends a hint of genius and intent to these rallies and flotillas. Whoever came up with this was probably in Iraq around 2003-2005.
We have more than banners as well. Physiognomy will also lend much to the situation.
I believe the phrase "perfumed princes" was coined by David Hackworth, a role model of mine.
I would have loved to have seen it, but we don't get anything on the TV.
The Imperial Guard stands ready.
No no no - didn't you hear? This totally-legit poll from Military Times found that the troops support Biden!
Because we *all* know that, a) polls are objective reflections of statistical reality (like all the other Biden polls were), and the opinions of "diverse" and gender-fluid POGs who answer polls are fully representative of the military.
I'd love to see a breakdown of votes for those in the combat arms MOSs.
First we have to figure out how to siphon off cheers for Trump and give them to biden
Depends on their level of information engagement. The mid-tier NCOs are under constant pressure from the pozzed senior NCOs, and the based SNCOs have to run their interferance quietly to keep the lower enlisted out of the line of fire from the political officer corps. The groundswell for GEOTUS is strong, but rarely gets to shout the way it did during that academy game, due to the pozzed political perfumed princes.
Heartwarming.
Yet Gaslight, Inc. wants us to believe Trump lost the "military vote" to Soros' meat-puppet. Right, sure. Of course he did - DVS programmed it that way.
No mask, no compliance with the left’s policies. That’s why he’s loved by the people and hated by the elites.
@13. WORD. Retired USAF here, last assignment was with USTRANSCOM at Scott AFB, IL. Air Mobility Command is also there, along with the Army's Surface Deployment and Distribution Command....AF Comm Agency is there, too (far as I know, I retired in '13). For years, the USTRANSCOM commander was dual-hatted as the AMC commander, but they made them separate, so there's now two 4-star GO/FOs at Scott, with LTG deputies, and a herd of one-and-two star GO/FOs as heads of the various J and A directorates...the SDDC CC was an Army MG when I was there. Also 18th AF is there, another GO/FO....you can't swing a dead cat at Scott AFB without hitting a GO/FO.....
If I was in charge, the only 4-star GO/FOs would be the service chiefs, the Unified Combatant Command CCs, and Chairman/Vice of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.....service component commanders to UCCs would be 3-stars, or less....also set all services' internal MAJCOM commanders at 3-star; when I was still in, all the USAF MAJCOM commanders were 4-star, not sure about the other services
I've been out for 4 years, but from all reports from the vets and cops and guys still serving that I know the only people who hate him are the queers, the elites in the officer corps and those who fell for "he be rayciss"
The Promethans' attitude toward the actual soldiers whipsaws from fake fawning "gratitude" and sneering derision. The soldiers themselves are perfectly aware of this, just as they aware that, even more than most civilians, the Promethans have no understanding of military matters, especially of leadership and morale. Promethans just assume people will die at their orders because reasons.
USNA and USMA do not produce snowflakes. There is not a "safe space" anywhere in the Yard or at The Point. No Play Doh. No trigger warnings.
Apparently some more applause for Biden was found later.
"Men, this stuff that some sources sling around about America wanting out of this war, not wanting to fight, is a crock of bullshit.
Americans love to fight, traditionally. All real Americans love the sting and clash of battle.
You are here today for three reasons. First, because you are here to defend your homes and your loved ones. Second, you are here for your own self respect, because you would not want to be anywhere else.
Third, you are here because you are real men and all real men like to fight.
When you, here, everyone of you, were kids, you all admired the champion marble player, the fastest runner, the toughest boxer, the big league ball players, and the All-American football players. Americans love a winner. Americans will not tolerate a loser. Americans despise cowards.
Americans play to win all of the time. I wouldn't give a hoot in hell for a man who lost and laughed. That's why Americans have never lost nor will ever lose a war; for the very idea of losing is hateful to an American..." - Great Third Army and a "Son-of-a-Goddamned-Bitch" named General Georgie S. Patton
Enlisted are with Trump. The wet noodle officers that send the enlistees off to die aren't. Good thing the enlistees have the numbers and the guns.
Trump said it before:
https://streamable.com/0fyl4e
"I'm not saying the Military is in love with me, the soldiers are, the top people in the Pentagon probably aren't because they wanna do nothing but fight wars so that all of those wonderful companies that make the bombs and make the planes and make everything else stay happy."
Remember the WP cadet who was outed for wearing a Che short and privately supporting Marxism? There was supposed to be an investigation but I don't recall seeing the result of the investigation, if there was one. Hopefully the Reds in the military are keeping tabs of who isn't Red.
Its time. Its time to give your guns to literally Hitler.
@28: You can thank Goldwater-Nichols for the staff bloat. George Patton and Chester Nimitz fought World War II with O-6s for chiefs of staff - there is no call for a modern flag officer to be serving in a staff position.
@31
Oh yes they do produce snowflakes. The majority of the cadets are killy-eyed steelers, but the SJW diversitopia crowd is in charge, has been for some years, and the fruit of the tree is becoming apparent. Check out the spenser rapone/ LTC Heffington saga from a few years back, and the sensitivity training for the rugby team, the "first gay cadets", etc. There is no shortage of snowflakery there. Just look at their recruiting and what 'accomplishments' they celebrate
https://usmadata.com/2019/06/10/pay-for-diversity-most-black-women-ever-graduate-usma/
While the upright patriot still has more presence in the academies than any other schools I know of, the rot is deep.
Other Josh wrote:He just has to say the word and millions will follow his lead. I think he realizes this.
To paraphrase a certain retired light colonel, legitimacy, or a reasonable facsimile thereof...
How many decibels of love and support were shown to the greatest president since Andrew Jackson?
I wonder if the enlisted personel realize that what you only can describe as a gaggle of cultists that have a deranged vision of making sacrifices to the Enemy as payment for a supposed reward, just made a deposit of a coming 200 million of the little people globally for their "great Reset" and how easy a payment it was? I believe so because who besides the urban elites lickspittles still buy what they are putting down, even Joggers are very vocal about the lack of trust for the whole sordid affair.
The GD should institute drumheads after he emerge victorious, as a lesson, a warning and to use their term, a cap stone.
Trump has the militia or what's left of it. 80 percent is not fieldable and too pinned down to organize. That is, we live in a country where antifa and BLM can make open threats and the answer to that is another FBI report on the threat from white supremacy. But there is more. To spare the text, I'll just say look at what happened to the Hutaree guys. None of the charges stuck. What they did to Charles Puckett was way worse.
From around early 2000s it's more of a mafia family structure. If you are not training in one, and you don't have anybody you have known long enough to be sure is not an informant or fed, then you are alone. Informants are easy to spot at least: look for the Pedoface.
That advice about staying in your home town with family and lifelong friends instead of being some rootless urban cosmopolitan exists for reasons born of topics and times like this.
The other alternative is to form a "crew". And for the love of God, no "going public" and never be seen in camo. Think twice about that last line,you'll get it.
The Midshipmen and the Cadets are college students. They will be military when they graduate. What would they know about whose "side" the military is on? lol
When Dubya got that rousing welcome from the troops in his surprise Thanksgiving Day visit to Iraq, I remember Jerry Pournelle, RIP, remarking that's how you win the loyalty of the Legion.
This is good news. But who will they see as the enemy that must be defeated?
Joseph, Comte de Maistre (1753-1821), who for fifteen years had been a Freemason, had this to say: “Until now, nations were killed by conquest, that is by invasion. But here an important question arises: can a nation not die on its own soil, without resettlement or invasion, by allowing the flies of decomposition to corrupt to the very core those original and constituent principles which make it what it is?”
Yes, 3 stars for MAJCOM and 2 stars for NUMBERED AF. Fighter Wings 1 star and Flying Training Wings bird colonel.
This guy gets it.
The Army team captain shook the President’s hand after the coin toss. The Navy captain did not.
@5. SurfingUSA December 12, 2020 5:54 PM
Wonder what the middies and cadets are thinking right about now....
They're thinking, "Look at that glorious, golden god standing right there without a mask."
Cinqueports wrote:USNA and USMA do not produce snowflakes. There is not a "safe space" anywhere in the Yard or at The Point. No Play Doh. No trigger warnings.
Though it is fair to remember the case of Spenser Rapone - the traitor that had "communism will win" written on the inside of his hat at graduation from West Point and wore Che Guevara shirts. Hope some of his former classmates hunt him down and make him end up like his idol...
The only way is military.
It just had to be shown.
The vets, separated and many if not all enlisted and even the junior and senior officers around me are for Trump.
“They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give themselves to me
In great armor shall I clothe them, and with the mightiest guns shall they be armed
They shall be untouched by plague or disease, no sickness shall blight them
They shall have tactics, strategies, and machines such that no foe can best them in battle
They are my bulwark against the terror
They are the defenders of humanity
They are my space marines, and they shall know no fear!”
I heard the reaction on the radio as I was listening to the game from the beginning, and it was tremendous. It was such a great feeling to hear the cadets cheer like that.
This is what I have been saying here for months. The enlisted ranks, especially those is who are in a trigger-puller MOS, are overwhelming patriotic, and will be loyal to the American public (and anyone who stands with the public) and hostile to those who place immigrants and perverts ahead of the rest of society.
"Hal, as you know I am a clerk for one of the Justices on SCOTUS. Today was like nothing we have ever seen. The justices are arguing loudly behind closed doors.
The Justices met in a closed and sealed room, as is standard.
Usually it is very calm, however today we could hear screaming all the way down the hall.
They met in person, because they didn't trust telephonic meeting as secure.
Chief Justice Roberts was screaming
"Are you going to be responsible for the rioting if we hear this case?"
"Don't tell me about Bush v. Gore, we weren't dealing with riots then"
"You are forgetting what your role here is Neil, and I don't want to hear from the two junior justices anymore. I will tell you how you will vote."
Justice Clarence Thomas says "This is the end of Democracy, John."
When they left the room, Roberts, the Libs and Kavanugh had big smiles. Alito and Thomas were visibly upset. ACB and Gorsuch didn't seem fazed at all."
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/loud-arguments-in-us-supreme-court-chambers-over-texas-lawsuit-court-intimidated
>> "perfumed princes", hilarious.
Credit the late, great Col (P) David Hackworth with, at the very least popularizing the term in his fantastic book "About Face" (which I read about 6 weeks before signing my first enlistment).
If there ever was a look of the cat that swallowed the canary, Trump just gave it on the field. It's either that or he's enjoying a moment of feeling pretty badass. Whichever it is, good on him. Never Despair.
GE has the Navy..
GE has the SF..
GE has the gonads..
Trump is preparing for civil war.
Some years ago I was thinking about where the Federal government's force projection would come from in the event of succession/civil unrest. Nearly all miliary personal come from the "red" states (blue state liberal kids have turn up their noses at military service for the past 30 years). This means the military is on our side. Sure the FBI and various other alphabet agencies have their own SWAT team and the like. But these guys are essentially cops, not military guys. So where does the Federal government force projection come from? CIA. Specifically the CIA paramilitary spec op guys. I came to the conclusion that the Federal government's force projection can be neutralized if the CIA spec ops guys were somehow eliminated. The solution I came up was simple retirement. Convince these guys (with cash payments) to simply retire to the beaches of Africa or SEA. I think most of them are amoral enough that they would choose this option. Or they could follow in the footsteps of Black Water and go to work as contractors for the Chinese. In any case, the Federal government has no effective force projection capability without these CIA paramilitaries.
That Trump and the DoD have cut off support for the CIA paramilitaries suggests they are thinking along the same lines as us. They are clearly preparing for the civil war scenario.
One more thing, regardless of how things turn out, the American Empire(TM), as defined by the interventionist foreign policy that we've had since the end of WW2, is over. The troops will be brought back to deal with civil insurrection or they will be kept abroad to keep them away from the civil insurrection. Either way, the troops will no longer engage in offensive military action abroad.
Those sounded like real cheers, unlike the electronically-manufactured noise in the woke sports leagues.
Well, that message couldn't be any more obvious : "If you make me give them the order to fix this they will do so with enthusiasm. You've already lost." Of course, I'm thinking that the DNI report on the 18th probably contains some variation of "China engineered the pandemic as well as control of the voting machines to subvert the election, with the collusion of the Democratic party leadership." At that point the whole thing becomes a military matter anyway and a civil war is the least of our concerns. The real concern at that point will be avoiding war with China while still punishing them.
We are lead to believe all 900 military votes in one county in Georgia went to Biden. BS.
They will be military when they graduate. What would they know about whose "side" the military is on?
More than you know now. Take that from a graduate who served as enlisted before attending USMA.
And the Army won, for what it's worth.
There were no civilians in that stadium. That roar was exclusively cadets and midshipmen. He has our unwavering support.
There seems to be a correlation between those in the military who regard service as little more than a welfare check requiring a funny haircut and Biden support.
All military votes in any county going to Biden is BS.
Every part of the Government does what they want. Supremos, judges, congress, CIA, FBI, governors, mayors, etc. Law, propriety and process are finished. Only it's not hidden any more behind legislative or constitutional skirts. Why shouldn't the G-E do what he thinks best? The fake process is against him. Soon the fake electors will be against him and the fake Congress. SO WHAT? If he thinks he is still president and a good part of the people and special forces agree then process does not matter. I say, President Trump until the job is finished; however long it takes. Let the traitors, try to put him out and see what happens.
Those cadets remember that President Trump stood for hours in the heat to salute the last graduating class...did you see the Army football captain go out of his way to give the President some dap. It's not the E-5s through O-3s that the President has to worry about. That was a 50% crowd in a small stadium and some General told them to be quiet for the Anthem ceremony before they got warmed up. He doesn't really have to worry about O-4s and O-5s either unless they think they have a chance at flag rank. The Generals and Admirals all want those cushy jobs with General Dynamics and Lockheed Martin or want to be politicians themselves - those are the guys he has to worry about.
Seconded. Enlisted Marine-->USNA.
Everyone in those stands joined the Academy during Trump's administration. They cheered him loudly and proudly stood for the national anthem. This means something.
@56
If that's true, and we have no idea whether the witness or the account is authentic, Kavanaugh is really worthless, casting his lot with people that exposed his kids to the lurid tales that were told in his confirmation hearings.
The left will riot no matter what. We need to give them direction to the Roberts mansion.
Maybe but the Airforce and Navy are FULL of gays, lesbians, feminists and literal witches and Satanists.
The "communism will win" kid? IIRC he got an other-than-honorable discharge.
@21 @57
May he rest in peace.
"no doubt whose side the military is on"
Yes, bibulus's.
So, disgusting subhumans afraid for their lives due to other disgusting subhumans possibly going to revolt; and deciding for active appeasement.
Democracy is the Devil's lie.
Who, the PLA? because your "army" is an ineffective mercenary force of genderfluid blacks and mexicans that would love to join the rioters as soon as they start. Commanded by perfumed princes under Bibulus's command, the few actual soldiers in there will "accept the result of the vote to defend democracy" and shoot our emperor themselves if it comes to that.
An unspoken subtext in this display by our Leader is the absolute neccessity* of leadership in this current war.
Leadership a facet of The Natural Law as promulgated by The Divine Author.
The murder from the beginning apes leadership leaving it desecrated, see Bush i, bush ii, clinton, obama and biden. It apes it by hiding behind the office. None of the preceding have been or will be great men;defilers all.
Then God grants us a great Leader who is bigger than the office. A leader who conforms to the Virtous hiearchy of divine Authority.
Win or lose, my allegiance is to The Divine Author, the Christian God, and His servants in His Hierarchy.
In Christendom, our God is a suffering servant for our sake; we see the same attribute in Trump.
At this point, the subject is too deep for my current, historically illiterate knowledge to explore. I see only tha pattern.
There are other aspects of this war that I assume is of The Natural Law by The Divine Author
1. We expect God's moral order to rule His Kingdom that He established, on Earth as it is in Heaven.
2.We exoect that things will improve and are appalled when others choose a damned kingdom
3. He came not to unite, but to divide; we are living through an accellerated application of this maxim.
*True? Counter examples?
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/news-page/news-nation/loud-arguments-in-us-supreme-court-chambers-over-texas-lawsuit-court-intimidated
THIS ARTICLE WAS PREVIOUSLY LOCKED AND FOR SUBSCRIBERS ONLY. IT HAS BEEN UNLOCKED AT THE PERSONAL REQUEST OF STEVE QUAYLE -- From a source deep inside the US Supreme Court as they discussed the pending Texas lawsuit against Pennsylvania et. al. . . .
"Hal, as you know I am a clerk for one of the Justices on SCOTUS. Today was like nothing we have ever seen. The justices are arguing loudly behind closed doors.
The Justices met in a closed and sealed room, as is standard.
Usually it is very calm, however today we could hear screaming all the way down the hall.
They met in person, because they didn't trust telephonic meeting as secure.
Chief Justice Roberts was screaming
"Are you going to be responsible for the rioting if we hear this case?"
"Don't tell me about Bush v. Gore, we weren't dealing with riots then"
"You are forgetting what your role here is Neil, and I don't want to hear from the two junior justices anymore. I will tell you how you will vote."
Justice Clarence Thomas says "This is the end of Democracy, John."
When they left the room, Roberts, the Libs and Kavanugh had big smiles. Alito and Thomas were visibly upset. ACB and Gorsuch didn't seem fazed at all."
Clearly Chief Justice Roberts is intimidated by the ATNIFA/Left-wing rioting. Well, one has to wonder if maybe he can intimidated more by some actions of the right wing?
I'm not going to bother doing that or anything else, and neither should any of you, but I'm just wondering, is all.
Let them storm the house of Kavanaugh the cuck and Robert’s the diddler, let them see where clucking gets them.
Yeah I'd like to see that!
Fox News says there is no evidence of those cheers were for Trump or being widespread throughout the crowd.
I just listened to an interview with an expert who says he can find fraudulent ballots by just scanning them with a scanner with special calibrations - mostly based on the traces of printers that were used to print these ballots, what ink was used to check the candidates and on the question if and how the ballot was ever folded. He says his scanners could check millions of paper ballots very quickly.
https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/tech-expert-can-determine-if-ballots-are-legitimate-or-fake-in-seconds/
The cheers were glorious and encouraging. No need to interpret by them or “failure” of Navy to bump Trump as anything other than adulation. I accepted them for what they were: enthusiastic admiration for the POTUS. Whether or not they were planned or spontaneous is irrelevant. In either case, they were authentic and not manufactured.
I get some are cautious to take encouragement in even the smallest gains but don’t throw wet blankets on any fire right now. We need all the heat we can get.
@25 "based SNCOs have to run their interferance quietly to keep the lower enlisted out of the line of fire"
I'm reminded of the political officer/enforcer on the Red October, and the Captain's excellent final handling of him... If every squad and division has their own apparatchik, official or not, the pattern is clear. And some of you may remember fragging in Viet Nam?
@31 "USNA and USMA do not produce snowflakes. There is not a "safe space" anywhere in the Yard or at The Point. No Play Doh. No trigger warnings."
https://i.insider.com/5cdd81b2021b4c0b416f5d28
So, they spent four years under the discipline of West Point, and STILL came out with this crap-attitude?! They spent four years learning military history and behavior, and still came out without ANY grasp of unit cohesion except with their racial kin?
"You knew what I was when you climbed on my back... glug glug glug"
And, since none of the 'women with inappropriate attitude' was disciplined, it's clear the Army has bent way over to prevent the accusation of racisssss.
Ah well, first kill all the traitors, no?
Whatever happened to Spenser Rapone?
https://www.ncnewsonline.com/news/local-man-west-point-grad-talks-about-ouster-from-army/article_e9a876c6-7409-11e8-a756-cb9bf5a78f89.html
I was there, they were not planned
"There seems to be a correlation between those in the military who regard service as little more than a welfare check requiring a funny haircut and Biden support"
Very few of those types have signed up, or even re-enlisted, since about 2005.
It's time for Trump to put an end to this nonsense and declare martial law. The Democrats will do irreparable damage to our great country by ending the filibuster, packing the court and grant citizenship to illegals. It's that is a full blown civil war. May have to move to the great nation of Texas.
Anyway, thanks for answering me indirectly.
I am skeptical of the willingness of the "boys that actually fight" to commit what will doubtlessly be characterized as high treason by the media and establishment. I hope to be proved wrong.
Parallax wrote:... and even the junior and senior officers around me are for Trump.
How senior are the senior officers? Majors? Light colonels? Done their twenty and on the way out?
And these are officers/soon to be officers. If this crowd was enlisted it would have been even louder with triple the enthusiasm.
That was real enthusiasm for Trump right there. Meanwhile, the child-sniffing turnip could not inspire that level of excitement in a thousand years.
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