No, he's really not
The Fake News doubles-down again on its false narrative about the fake president-elect:
BREAKING NEWS: Joe Biden IS president-elect as California puts him over the 270 mark - and he will address the nation saying 'it is time to turn the page' despite Donald Trump STILL not admitting he lost.
Meanwhile, there are now dual sets of electors for PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, and NM. The media isn't covering this, for the most part, and they wouldn't know how to cover it, what it means, or how it plays out even if they did. But this should assure you that the President has matters well in hand, and that everything is playing out according to his plan.
On a not-necessarily-unrelated note, Bill Barr has resigned as the Attorney General, effective December 23, 2020.
I told you there would be a surprise today, didn't I? You may recall that just this very situation was addressed yesterday over at the Tree of Woe.
There is a very strong Constitutional theory that the power to open and count the votes of the presidential electors is vested exclusively in the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate is actually the Vice President of the United States - Trump’s running mate, Mike Pence.
Therefore, if this theory is true, Mike Pence can simply open the Republican certificates and toss the Democrat certificates into the trash. The Democrats could howl and shout and gnash their teeth, but they cannot count votes that Pence doesn’t open.
I have laid out the legal arguments and historical precedent for Pence’s power in my earlier article, so I wont repeat them here. Suffice to say, if opening and counting the votes of the presidential electors is like playing white box D&D, then Mike Pence is the designated dungeonmaster. And nobody gets to argue with the DM.
Don't forget, the outcome has already been assured by no less than Gen. Michael Flynn himself.
First of all, there’s a whole number of paths that the president has, and like I say, asked on a scale of one to 10 who’ll be the next president, I’d say 10, Donald Trump! I will tell you one more time—because I've been asked—on a scale of one to 10, who will be the next president of the United States, and I say Donald Trump. Ten. A 10.
It's hard to be any more clear than that. The dual electors are just one of the less painful paths to cutting through the fraud. It's interesting to see that only one governor, the idiot in Michigan, attempted to obstruct this one.
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And Barr is out. It's EO 13848 time!!!!!!
I am going to love all of these Satanic pieces of filth getting their comeuppance when the GE pulls the trigger.
Oh how glorious it will be!
I'd bet Trump actually won New Mexico, Virginia too.
So much fraud to investigate with limited resources though.
So now he has a choice to make. Either he crosses the Rubicon and becomes the most loved man in history for saving the Republic, or he cucks and becomes the most hated.
The choice is your Mr. President.
Bring back Matt Whitaker as AG.
Did Trump just smoke AG.Barr? What's going on!
Dec 23: AG resigns
Dec 24: government shutdown by EO for "Christmas Eve"
Dec 25: 244th anniversary of Washington crossing a river
2 terms = 4 + 4
That Barry resignation effective of 23rd is interesting given intel coming out of military sources and Trump's Dec 10th EO on line of succession for Defense Sec as well as Christmas Eve being a federal holiday, minus those who are part of National Security.
Not if he invokes the EO.
Barr resigned.
More than Santa will be on NORAD radar screens on December 24...
A day before the federal holiday decreed by President Trump for Dec. 24. Hmmmmmmmm....
I can't believe the events of the last week - because of the criminal stupidity of the perps.
Lets say my job is to close the bank and lock up at the end of the day. Lets also say I don't like the bank manager, and I'd like to see him fired. If, as I'm walking out, a policeman says "There are still people in there, they look like they're up to no good" I think to myself "awesome maybe the bank manager will be fired," and 'exercise my authority' by turning off the lights and locking the bank door behind me, I've made myself a criminal. Even if I had no idea there were people in the bank before I locked up, if I was warned there was something fishy going on and intentionally disregarded it, that makes me an accessory - a criminal.
This is the truly simple brilliance of the G.E's plan. They are criminalizing themselves on live television in front of the entire country.
What astonishes me is that for some reason they don't realize they are disposable assets of the left, and they are being disposed of. Their masters cannot save them - indeed have no intention of saving them - and when official after official is sent to jail over the next 12-24 months, they will shake their head in wonder why they ever thought they were safe to lock the door and walk away after the cop told them there was someone in the bank.
JD Curtis wrote:I'd bet Trump actually won New Mexico, Virginia too.
Trump carried at least 40 states, including NM, VA and OR. He may have won all 50.
This literally just popped up on my news feed and my immediate reaction was 'bullshit!'.
I truly loathe the press.
They are a willing mouthpiece for evil.
From Vox's comment in a recent post:
"Keep in mind that if a state submits two sets of electors, the President of the Senate decides which group of electors to hear, as per the precedent set when Rutherford B. Hayes was elected. The President of the Senate is the Vice-President, Mike Pence. He also has the option of leaving the state out of the count."
So regarding PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, and NM. Is it then as simple as Pence picking the rightfully elected electors in these states and voila? 270! Trump reelected and major REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEss all around?
"So now he has a choice to make. Either he crosses the Rubicon and becomes the most loved man in history for saving the Republic, or he cucks and becomes the most hated."
He will become hated no matter what by the other side.
As for future generations: whether he will become a legendary hero or the one who folded when the Republic was at stake remains to be seen.
Screw crossing the Rubicon. That time of tender mercy has passed. Instead, part it, let those creatures pursue you in blind rage, then cave it in on their heads and throw the Kraken on top of them!
Thank God in moments like these I have faith in Christ and wisdom of the Stockdale Paradox.
My bets were closed on Friday! They say i lost. Bastards. They obviously lost their nerve.
The State Police blocked the alternate electors in Michigan from entering the state house.
VD:
"I told you there would be a surprise today, didn't I?"
Yes, you most certainly did! It is why I continue to come here multiple times daily.
And watch. Oxen cross the Rubicon and fail. He ain’t got the artillery.
We may find grapeshot and bayonets are useful
“He will become hated no matter what by the other side.”
He is hated. And so what, right? The Red Sox hate the Yankees but I never met a Yankee fan that lost sleep over the bad press in Boston.
Next game show could be Sedition, featuring 1-2 states at a time that embraced the fraud and failed false elector slates. "You're Guilty!" after a drum head court martial.
Pleasant start to the week.
While just starting to read this post my idiotic Crapple device sends me the FAKE NEWS message of a FAKE president elect JoJo achieving his 270. How do I turn this crap off? Hahaha!
Some of my money is riding on Trump. (I made the bet bef. the election, although some bookies still offer bets.)
I very much hope he will deliver.
Impossible! I’ve seen YT vids telling us they appreciate the President and all the Trump 2020 Patriots that stand up for them to the point of putting their lives on the thin blue line. They’re on our side!
Or do they “just follow orders?” It does get confusing.
I dont think that's quite right. The electoral votes have to be given in a regular way which means certified by the governor. If there is fraud however then they were not given in a regular manner. I think the proof is rearing it's head in MI as we speak. Let's see what comes out the odni soon. It looks to me like there is a momentum building for fraud but the EO and possibly martial law will be needed to get past the msm.
SwEaTy, ehem... MY fellow conservatives! Flynn was counting in binary you see... he said it was 2/10. not 10/10 that trump would...
This is going to be a fun week, they're already crowing about a Biden having won. It's been great theater so far.
With any luck, Trump will nut up and expose the sham, and it looks like that's what he's gearing up to do.
One of my personal rules: if you are going to be hated, make them hate you until it hurts them more.
@Toms7866: "The State Police blocked the alternate electors in Michigan from entering the state house."
How is that not a violation of law and process? Good faith in the state of MI just took a shit and died.
How obvious can you get:
MI Attorney Responsible For Forensic Examination Of 16 Dominion Machines Gets Threatening Call From MI State Bar... Radical MI AG Nessel Threatens "MI Lawyers” Supporting Trump
She should be the first quick rope around the neck. Just to wet appetites.
Tossing the Biden votes and keeping the Trump votes would be the ultimate poetic justice.
No one should be surprised at the MSM doing that. All it means is the increased likelihood of EO 13848, insurrection act and possibly martial law in order to get the message out. That's the decision to be made.
Thats what Sydney was warning them of a few weeks ago.
I have the misfortune of living under the idiot in MI and idiot is about the nicest thing you can say about her.
"It's interesting to see that only one governor, the idiot in Michigan, attempted to obstruct this one."
Well, Wolf is busy shutting down restaurants, bars and gyms.
"nobody gets to argue with the DM."
A lesson learned long ago.
In this case though, thank goodness its not a hormonal peer, but a stand in for an American US founder.
I would pay attention to the DNI report on foreign interference in the election, which is due Friday 18 Dec. If Trump is going to cross the Rubicon, that will be the document providing him legal cover.
I'm not confident he WILL cross...the last 47 months, Trump has shown great deference to the legal process and very little interest in cracking heads. If he had, Biden would have been dragged out of the first debate in handcuffs. And the 2018 midterms would have been upended by the arrest of several dozen prominent Dems for Seditious Conspiracy.
FWIW, don't read too much into Trump giving the Federal workforce the 24th off. Underneath the gruff exterior, he's a nice guy...this is just an example of it.
It's irritating that they chose dual electors. I made a bet with my brother that now appears to be a lost cause because a peaceful resolution is on the table.
The Lords will be done.
Indeed! Good stuff!
Per Bronze Age Pervert on Twitter, it was actually the GOP leadership that were the obstructionist, siting a little birdie. Whether or not it's true is of course not confirmed, but it is extremely believable.
Is it right that online bookies have closed bets for the 2020 elections and have said trump lost?
If so, will we have any recourse when Trump wins reelection?
“They have to get the shots. The vaccinations are so important,” Trump told reporters as he left the White House. “This is really going around now. They have to get their shots.”
PeopleMakerBear wrote:While just starting to read this post my idiotic Crapple device sends me the FAKE NEWS message of a FAKE president elect JoJo achieving his 270. How do I turn this crap off? Hahaha!
With a hammer.
2 options: Barr actually honorably resigned because he disagrees with legal basis for Trump's coming actions or Trump fired him in order to put someone in place who will execute his part in Trump's plan.
If Trump was just pissed at him he would have publicly fired him in a humiliating fashion. My money is on "you are no wartime consiglieri Barr"
JWM in SD wrote:The electoral votes have to be given in a regular way which means certified by the governor.
The electoral college votes are NOT certified by the governor. They are not certified by anyone. The electors are their own certification.
"the last 47 months, Trump has shown great deference to" smoking out the roaches.
I just put up 10k with 100 to 1 odds that GEOTUS will not be leaving. Go and do likewise. Easiest money ever made.
I would agree but I suspect that there won't be a choice. The msm won't report on it and there's a good chance the SC continues to play the standing game.
So to clarify it for me – the vote/ballot counts in those contested states aren't directly relevant anymore (though of course they bear on the case in a legal and rhetorical sense), since now it's up to the VP (or some other constitutional process) to decide how the electoral votes from these states are to be allocated?
Barr being out is a good, albeit late, Christmas present.
A 10.
I see what he did there...
The EV slate has to be regularly given. 3 USC 15. Unless there is systematic fraud then they are not regularly given. Thats why the odni report and possibly the MI problems coming to light. I think Trump will need to leverage the foreign interference eo at a minimum to get past the msm.
Hammerli 280 wrote:I'm not confident he WILL cross...the last 47 months, Trump has shown great deference to the legal process and very little interest in cracking heads.
If he doesn't cross neither he, nor his children, nor their children, will ever have a moment of peace. Ever again. They will be chased by every hack out to make a name for themselves in our new globalist tyranny. They will make what he's endured at the hands of the SDNY look like a lovely picnic by the bay by comparison.
And Trump knows this.
He crosses, or he's on a flight to a non-extradition treaty country the day before the meat puppet is installed.
Is it right that online bookies have closed bets for the 2020 elections and have said trump lost?
If so, will we have any recourse when Trump wins reelection?
No, because none of us will have time to babysit your piddly little wager.
Yahoo just now blocked me from sending a link of this "No, He's Really Not" post to 4 people. Guess what? One of those 4 was ME!
The emails finally went through after I erased my original headline - "Media Says Biden Won Electoral College - NO, he did NOT!" and instead substituted the headline - "General Flynn says this about Trump Winning!" That second headline went through.
Damn, if I wasn't a devout Catholic, I'd stuff a crucifix up Yahoo's butt!
(And just for saying that, I'm going to have to do 4 Hail Mary's.)
I work for a government entity where, if a tenured individual is caught doing something worthy of termination, that person is given the option to “retire” on the spot rather than be fired.
Wow, much happening. Only imagine the workings going on that only a few know of. I have faith that our great Republic will not end this way, now. In my world few are speaking of the electoral fraud, odd, it seems? As I said earlier, if the election stands as is there will be war. And again, the GOP took the house, pretty simple to think that. Just saying
Bill Barr. https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2000-jun-15-mn-41294-story.html
Appears he excused Lon (the mommy killer) Hiruchi for his cold blooded murder.
PeopleMakerBear wrote:While just starting to read this post my idiotic Crapple device sends me the FAKE NEWS message of a FAKE president elect JoJo achieving his 270. How do I turn this crap off? Hahaha!
You can literally delete the news app or wipe its config.
January 6th will be *Epic*.
VP Pence will singlehandedly put an end to the MSM's last nanogram of Credibility a la Throwing out the Shitty Dem Elector Certificates. Tis will be GLORIOUS!
Yeah, if there's solid proof of systemic fraud or illegality then ev slates weren't regularly given.
@JWM
Part of trickiness in playing up the foreign angle is doing so enough overturn the bs election, but not enough that it's seen as an act of war.
Generally agree. He's going to have to use the Foreign Interference EO at a minimum just to break the msm stranglehold on reporting the fraud. It's the only.
Frankly I have my doubts too. Critical to any radical move is getting enough support from the middle, and his own spineless backstabbing party. He has to be able to govern *afterward* right?
For that moral high ground any true slam dunk info should already be out there, now. THEN it would be piss or get off the pot time for electors, states, SCOTUS, etc. You don't withhold evidence and then claim foul.
BroNat, the #1 truth-teller in America.
THE HUGE DEMOCRAT PARTY COUP
https://www.bitchute.com/video/bGbnhFqqrt0M/
A-10 indeed.
I'd like to put down a wager on Trump being inaugurated, but it looks like most "bets" are over who "wins" the election. I can see bettors on Trump losing once Electoral College is done, and then if Trump crosses the Rubicon you STILL won't get paid if Trump is inaugurated because the bookies will say "he lost the election and then lied about fraud to steal the election from the rightful winner Biden."
If it's more specific like "who gets inaugurated Jan 20?" I'd be more inclined to jump in
If Barr thought Biden was going to win, wouldn't he tough it out for another month? If only to be a restraining influence on the GE? This is a tell.
Hammerli 280 wrote:I'm not confident he WILL cross...the last 47 months, Trump has shown great deference to the legal process and very little interest in cracking heads.
Our hope has always been that he is setting things up for later. So far, later hasn't come. Trump has until Inauguration Day to decide whether he's going down in history as a great man, or a foolish loser. It's hard to believe that he would choose to be a loser.
Cincinatus is not remembered because he didn't rise to the occasion, he's remembered because he went home after being dictator.
The news has been all good for a few days now. But you know, vile as the CCP can be, we need to get a few steps higher on the food chain.
I read that Dominion Voting Systems, DVS, was bought by Chinese entities, from Staple Street Capital whose members also belong to the infamous Carlyle Group and Cerberus Capital. William Kennard, a board member of Staple Street also worked as MD for Carlyle for nearly a decade. Kennard was appointed chairman of the US FCC in 1997, appointed Ambassador to the EU by Obama in 2009. Carlyle is one of the largest private equity firms in the world. Frank Carlucci, James Baker, the Bin Ladens, John Major, Soros are some of the names who have invested in or worked for the group. DVS uses products by SolarWinds Orion that was linked to the hacking of US agencies last spring. Solar Winds has just recently been dropped from use by all federal agencies by order from CISA. Solar Winds main investor is Silver Lake partners, invested upto billions in Chinese fintech like alibaba and the like, and recently also in India, in biometric id related Jio phones, belonging to the Ambani group. Silver Lake is a star private equity firm and its chief Egon Durban has invested heavily in Google and Twitter, and is on the board of the latter.
The surveillance state and the technocrats and the banksters...all behind this hack. Chinese communists are not the whole story.
Mike Pence can simply open the Republican certificates and toss the Democrat certificates into the trash. The Democrats could howl and shout and gnash their teeth, but they cannot count votes that Pence doesn’t open.
And why not? Play by the Democrat's rules:
1. Refuse to allow them to enter the Senate chamber while the votes are being counted;
2. Have extra ballots printed, shipped in, and counted;
3. Stop opening and counting the ballots in mid-vote; tell the Democrats to leave; then count and add votes as necessary;
4. Have the Senate bailiff refuse entry to the Democrat members;
5. Have Trump declared president before the fist ballot is counted.
Jack Amok wrote:Is it right that online bookies have closed bets for the 2020 elections and have said trump lost?
If so, will we have any recourse when Trump wins reelection?
No, because none of us will have time to babysit your piddly little wager.
Why act like a prick?
People have previously said that betting on the election will be a fun way to make some money, and definitively prove to people how confident we've been about TGE since the start - but that's hardly true if Trump wins but we lose the bets we made. It's hardly something to admit to the Dem supporters then, is it?
Yep...odni report.
I work for a government entity where, if a tenured individual is caught doing something worthy of termination, that person is given the option to “retire” on the spot rather than be fired.
The FBI? There was article this week on their sexual harassment problem in management.
*laughs in Rutherford B. Hayes*
What betting service?
It would be a real shame if a burst pipe caused a halt in Pence counting the electoral votes and then he had to finish the vote count in an empty room at 3:30AM.
A real script-flipping shame.
I have only recently come to discover this unique resource for WTF is really going on behind the scenes concerning the brilliant political strategist GEOTUS DJT. His ability to always out think these self professed geniuses is an amazing sight to behold.
I am curious as to why he would be hated were he to win the presidency and not cross the Rubicon. If he wins without having to do so, wouldn't he be able to really take his gloves off, crush the enemies of the republic, and see them driven before us? I am hoping to have the light she'd upon me!
The MSM will be shown by President Trump to be complicit with the dems AND Chynna...doesn't matter WTF they think
If Pence does this, my opinion of him will increase.
If he does not, who should be Trump's VP during his second term?
To clarify, I have never trusted Pence. Something just doesn't smell right about him. Never has. Reminds me somehow of George Bush being forced upon Ronald Reagan.
Trump won New Mexico. They vote like the Hispanos in TX, who broke for Trump.
If there aren't govt investigations into criminal voter fraud I expect focused violence. Is anyone investigating the midnight vote counting in GA or the 100 -200K ballots driven from NY to PA?
Barr resignation = recess appointment without the hassle of Senate confirmation. That and having less than 30 days till Inaugaration gives GEOTUS a lot of flexibility about who fills that role during the upcoming events.
Imagine Guiliani, or Judge Judy as the temp AG or anyone else that that couldn't get past the Senate. This is an opportunity by design or accident doesn't matter.
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>> The dual electors are just one of the less painful paths to cutting through the fraud.
Of course, VD knows that in the long-haul even Pence cucking does not matter. Pence knows this, so he won't cuck.
It's getting very close to hitting the fan, and I suspect the normies will begin to freak about December 20th. Another week or so to prepare.
Reading this blog has been an education in how the nuts and bolts of how American government, like "inside baseball", actually works. Here's to the survival of the Republic, but more importantly, having those who fight against it removed from power and influence. If that includes dismantling higher "education" and the MSM, that's a good start.
Where?
Given all the shennanigans, I'm surprised so few states had contested delegations / dual sets of electors. At least a dozen cases could be made based on open-source reports alone, plus the factions of the intelligence community that still take their oaths of office seriously and thusly acknowledge the GE.
Here’s CNN claiming Trump could win 26-23 (apologies for math issues during stream haha).
https://www.cnn.com/videos/tv/2020/09/27/exp-gps-0927-fareeds-take.cnn
Governess Witchmer. A more spiteful, solipsistic, power-drunk harpy simply cannot be found. Even that electrified asylum escapee running Chicago into the ground doesn't quite compare.
@61:
"Appears he excused Lon (the mommy killer) Hiruchi for his cold blooded murder."
And therefore should never have been allowed anywhere near DOJ again. Damn it, Trump needed to vet his nominees better. This is basic stuff...better to do a temporary promotion of the seniormost career Civil Servant than have a saboteur in your Administration.
It will be interesting to watch a renewed push from the MSM for Joe to be now formally recognized as 'President Elect' and the 'Transition', including intel briefings, to be allowed to proceed.
Its glorious!
It's one thing to be "literally Hitler".
Quite another to literally be Hitler.
Biden is fake-baby.
Hammerli 280 wrote:I'm not confident he WILL cross...the last 47 months, Trump has shown great deference to the legal process and very little interest in cracking heads. If he had, Biden would have been dragged out of the first debate in handcuffs. And the 2018 midterms would have been upended by the arrest of several dozen prominent Dems for Seditious Conspiracy.
And in front of what corrupt judges would he have been forced to bring up this case? Like Sullivan? Or the one prosecuting Roger Stone?
He did not show deference. He just knew that the swamp creature judges would've dismissed all of these prosecutions.
Remember what started all of this: It was Admiral Mike Rogers, head of the NSA that warned Trump about Democrat private contractors using NSA resources to spy on his campaign, before Rogers shut down the whole operation. That shutdown forced the transfer to the Steele forgery and the Five Eyes intelligence agencies.
This has been a Trump/military operation from the start and matters had to get to this point to be dealt with effectively.
I imagine if such things were being imagined, the best time for "freedom fries" to be served would be Christmas Eve or Christmas Day. It's actually the best time for an action of this unique nature, given it's a Friday and Christmas. And an absolutely dead weekend news cycle, too, and for much of the following holiday week.
You could have multiple full squadrons of active Army and National Guard Bradley M2s placed across strategic street corners in D.C. that morning and almost no one would notice for hours. D.C. is all federal jurisdiction, too.
Company after company of regular Army, East Coast National Guard, and Marines could also be driving around for hours that morning in their 6-ton M939s, seeking out nice houses in N.W., S.W., Arlington, and Takoma Park to deliver "change of address" notices to the very guilty, with the soldiers' chores barely being noticed on deserted weekend/holiday streets.
And if one was so inclined, no one would notice for at least three days that the several news bureaus in town suddenly had non-civilian security at the front desk, and well-mannered, clean cut new anchors reading on-air copy that would prove to be absolutely mesmerizing for students of History.
On Christmas Day 1989, the reciprocating bolts of three Romanian AKM rifles each held by conscript soldiers delivered "full magazines of justice" to the oppressed citizens of Communist Romania. Perhaps this Christmas Day we will awaken to find a similar magnificent gift of Liberty and justice being presented to the American people, courtesy of the U.S. Armed Forces and President Donald John Trump.
We can start to decorate our own walls in January, and daily for the next 11 months of 2021. There's no hurry to complete _those_ necessary tasks in the first act of the show.
I just checked Youtube to watch the first 30 minutes that I missed of today's darkstream and it is gone.
Via Rogan O'Handley:
'Trump is moving a LOT of chess pieces around right now'
JWM in SD wrote:I would agree but I suspect that there won't be a choice. The msm won't report on it and there's a good chance the SC continues to play the standing game.
The Supreme Court was never a factor in this plan. It was a nice side bet, but not the core of any strategy.
Texas was a case that just came out of the blue. Sure, it would have been nice to win that way, but the court is not going to take the status quo of half the country in a simmering rage modify it by focusing all of that rage on itself. That was always too much to take, no matter how bogus the "standing" argument is or how much duty the SCOTUS had in taking the case.
My @97 was in response to @72 Ominous Cowherd.
He will do a deal. And all the nobles will go home happy.
Hammerli 280 wrote:@61:
"Appears he excused Lon (the mommy killer) Hiruchi for his cold blooded murder."
And therefore should never have been allowed anywhere near DOJ again. Damn it, Trump needed to vet his nominees better. This is basic stuff...better to do a temporary promotion of the seniormost career Civil Servant than have a saboteur in your Administration.
That was never a Barr decision...that was a DoJ decision. Barr simply follows the orders of the people he works for. the trouble is, we often don't who he works for.
but that's hardly true if Trump wins but we lose the bets we made.
If Trump wins, your bets don't matter. If Trump loses, your bets don't matter.
But after a Trump win, there might be some low-level Deep State operatives looking for work you could hire to talk to the bookies about your pay-off
According to OANN, TGE won 410 electoral votes. Including, ironically enough, California.
I nominate the term "shenanigans" as the most over-used word of the 2020 presidential election.
Anyone know how the process of counting the electoral votes actually works? I understand that Pence gets to do it. If he chooses to count Trump electors instead of Biden ones for the contested states, what's the process by which his decision can be overruled? Does a majority of both houses of Congress have to overrule him? What happens if the Senate says to not overrule and the House says overrule? Are the overrules simple majority votes? Or are they weird votes like in a contingent election (1 vote per state)?
When, not if, Mount Rushmore is chiseled to include the G-E, let's hope a nice-sized bust of General Flynn is set up outside the gift shop. I'd say he's earned it, and more. If there's a living guy in uniform who's done more to uphold his oath, I'd like to hear about it.
Yes, what service? I have a Grand kicking around.
"The court is not going to take the status quo of half the country in a simmering rage modify it by focusing all of that rage on itself. That was always too much to take..."
Exactly. There was no way they were ever going to hear that case.
Gutless cowards guilty of a dereliction of their sworn duty? Absolutely.
But it was a given, especially given how sound it appeared to be (which was an indication in and of itself of just how sound the case probably was).
Although my bookie is one of my close friends, if it means anything, he did say were the election to swing for Trump at any point on or before 1/20, he would pay me out.
Malarkey!
If he chooses to count Trump electors instead of Biden ones for the contested states, what's the process by which his decision can be overruled?
Dude, we're off the end of the playbook now. It's all sandlot football. "Process" is whatever anyone can claim and make stick at this point.
Jehu wrote:Anyone know how the process of counting the electoral votes actually works? I understand that Pence gets to do it. If he chooses to count Trump electors instead of Biden ones for the contested states, what's the process by which his decision can be overruled? Does a majority of both houses of Congress have to overrule him? What happens if the Senate says to not overrule and the House says overrule? Are the overrules simple majority votes? Or are they weird votes like in a contingent election (1 vote per state)?
I honestly don't think anyone knows. The writers of your Constitution assumed, I think, that either the VP or any member of Congress trying to dispute the electors' votes was about as likely as trying to dispute the statement that two and two make four. Why make rules for a scenario that you think won't happen?
It's up on Unauthorized.
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@101 The beastly darkstream is up on UA TV.
Shenanigans? C'mon man!
Amen, big,Gretch sucks
The House is free to reject the set of electors presented to them by the President of the Senate. In which case they hold the one state-one vote ballot.
Which cannot be over ruled by anyone. Like the authority of the state legislatures to select the electors from their state, the power of the House to elect the president by this method is plenary. There is no further appeal. The Supreme Court has no say. The Executive has no say, unless they wish to overthrow the legitimate government in a military coup.
On the election of 1824, the vote was split 4 ways with Andrew Jackson the top vote-getter with 98 of 260 electoral votes, the threshold for straight election was 131.
Because the electors could not come up with 131 votes for any candidate in 3 tries, the election was thrown to the House, where 2nd place finisher John Quincy Adams (84 EV) was elected through the promise of substantial graft to the right people.
Sorry, Infogalactic informs me Jackson got 99 EVs, not 98.
I assume Pence can open the elector vote envelopes he wishes.
If the storm has already made hundreds of arrests as fraud is shown by some version of Emergency Broadcast System, who will have the balls to obstruct, since most of them are compromised?
Well, they are pretty stupid so a few may try to bluff it out.
https://file.wikileaks.org/file/
THERE IT IS GENTS THE ABSOLUTE MOTHER LODE NOW HOW ABOUT THAT PARDON
Snidely, how does the House object? Does it just take 1 person, or do they vote to reject it with a standard majority vote? These details kind of matter.
@118 and @119, Could you guys please help me out? I subscribed, but I'm stuck at the old site and can't find the new site.
Newscaper312 wrote:It's one thing to be "literally Hitler".
Quite another to literally be Hitler.
If Trump merely seizes power, he won't be remembered long, or fondly.
If Trump seizes power and uses it to restore the Republic, then gives up power and goes home, he will be remembered and honored for 2,500 years, like Cincinatus.
Predictit.org
You know it's funny to think that old Joe actually the one who do the counting of Trump's electoral votes last election, oh the irony..
@129 predictit.org is useless for Canadians. They only allow Americans to bet.
"It's interesting to see that only one governor, the idiot in Michigan, attempted to obstruct this one."
If I recall correctly, Dems obstructed observers asd pressured the vote cert. That governor must have a walk-in closet of skeletons to hide.
Jehu wrote:Snidely, how does the House object?
By not certifying the election, as presented by the President of the Senate.
Normally the President of the senate announces the results and there is a voice vote or any Reps present to ratify the election. First they demand a voice vote, vote on whether to require an enumerated vote (not a chance in hell of that failing). Then they vote not to accept the results. That would be a regular majority rules vote. As for the voting rules, they are not specified in the Constitution. Each house sets its own rules, which cannot be countermanded by any other body. The final vote is the specified "one vote per delegation" rule. This will happen until there is a winner
Never trust cops. Not even Army MPs or Navy SPs.
Snidely,
So in other words, if Pence has the stones, he can force the House into 2 choices:
Accept that Trump won, by whatever count he chooses to report, which they can in no way question OR,
Not accept it, and do a contingent election, 1 vote per state, which also results in Trump winning.
Anything I'm missing?
I don't call her WITCHmer without reason.
Elder Son
>> "the last 47 months, Trump has shown great deference to" smoking out the roaches.
Lazzaloveman
>> Where?
LLM, what layer of coal have you been hiding under for the last 5 years?
From Codemonkey
NetworkSecurityMonkey
@Netguy73
Connection of SolarWinds Hacking and US Elections Explained...
https://twitter.com/Netguy73/status/1338675924401733632
If you’re talking about Unauthorized, I was stuck like you for a little bit. The new site is at uatv.infogalactic.com . You should be able to sign in there.
Biden's electors relied on Lori Loughlin to get them admission to the Electoral College.
@135, the House might cuck out, so they'd probably go with Option 2.
The man has earned a comprehensive pardon, no doubt about it.
Leftist scumbags want the entire country to be California.
The largest Army in the world is the private American citizen gun owner.
Bastards wouldn't let Pinochet be.
@136 I'm not a resident of MI (I live in KCMO) but I refer to her as Gauleiter Whitler....
It would be hilarious if new AG is Sessions, or Rosenstein.
If Trump seizes power, uses it to restore the republic, then gives up power, the left will lie and hate him just like Pinochet.
Trump's legacy now depends on crushing communism in America so thoroughly that they become the object of horror for the next ten generations. Go big or go home.
Firefox is giving a scary looking error when connecting to uatv. I looked at the details of the error; it isn't a problem, you can safely proceed. The wrong SSL certificate is being served.
The GE has the support of the people. I live in Texas and am in contact with the general public daily. Either the people are despondent and don't know about everything that is happening or they do know and are afraid they're getting their hopes up. When I mention martial law to people I usually either get a response of "about time" or "Oh he wouldn't do that". After a 5 minute conversation they usually comment about how they would be fine with whatever the GE does or even say, "I hope he declares martial law". If he acts, even those not in the know will follow that's how blatant this cheating is. I have not yet met a man of the right (I shudder at the word conservative now) who does not wish for the GE to do everything in his power to stop these communist traitors. Not one thinks that if Biden gets in we will have fair elections ever again. The GE will win and it will be Yuuuuuggggeeeeeee! And if the wants to divide the country into Trumpania & the the old broken republic then I'm all for it!
Jacinda Ardern. She has taken out guns and will soon take our speech because she is "kind".
which means, litteraly, any process.
If the courts and legislatures fail to do the right thing, could Pence choose the GOP electors with the evidence delivered to the senate?
"Hold my Bratwurst" - Angela Merkel
I’ve been saying that since his slap down of that clown Nadler.
I knew I wanted him way over the master cuckold Barr.
Rob in Seattle wrote:Could you guys please help me out? I subscribed, but I'm stuck at the old site and can't find the new site.
Just to verify, the old site you are using is "https://subscribe.unauthorized.tv/"?
The new site with the videos is www.unauthorized.tv.
Zaklog the Great wrote:If you’re talking about Unauthorized, I was stuck like you for a little bit. The new site is at uatv.infogalactic.com . You should be able to sign in there.
I see that the old site has a video pointing to that URL, but using it gives a cert error for me: "This server could not prove that it is uatv.infogalactic.com; its security certificate is from unauthorized.tv."
The warning can be ignored and the videos should still work, but some of the non-techies might be a little worried about error messages.
Slightly OT
China on the US doorstep?
https://www.rebelnews.com/the_china_files?utm_campaign=chinafilesre2_12_12&utm_medium=email&utm_source=therebel
A little cheating is good American sport, hoodwinking the entire populace on a massive scale is treasonous unforgivable and not permitted under the eyes of the Lord's country.
Sure glad I live in the buckle of the bible belt in the middle of nowhere. Gonna be a cold winter!!
Following on my previous comments @73 on Dominion Voting System and its ties to the technocracy, specifically to GLOBALIST/SPOOK front Carlyle, The Pentagon has added more Trump supporters after purging others.
"Today, the Department of Defense announced that it intends to appoint former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich, Ambassador Thomas Carter, Dr. Edward Luttwak, Mr. Scott O'Grady, Mr. Thomas Stewart, the Honorable Randy Forbes, Senator Robert Smith and Ambassador Charles Glazer to the Defense Policy Board," the Pentagon said in a statement.
Among those purged were Henry Kissinger and Madeline Albright, both with strong ties to the Carlyle Group, the outfit behind the ownership of Dominion before it was sold to the Chinese. That suggests again that Trump is preparing behind the scenes for some kind of confrontation. It doesn't sound like concession.
LR wrote:"Today, the Department of Defense announced that it intends to appoint former Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives Newt Gingrich, Ambassador Thomas Carter, Dr. Edward Luttwak, Mr. Scott O'Grady, Mr. Thomas Stewart, the Honorable Randy Forbes, Senator Robert Smith and Ambassador Charles Glazer to the Defense Policy Board," the Pentagon said in a statement.
What? When did this happen? Any link?
Since any secret message is fair game:
“A 10”.
Thunderbolt. For nighttime (or eve if you prefer) frontline fun.
You better watch out you better night cry . . .
@156. I think I'm doing something wrong. I got an Unauthorized order confirmation five days ago, and it said that the login information is usually sent manually within 24 hours. Nothing has happened yet. Is there someone I should be sending an e-mail to (i.e. tech support)? I don't know how to proceed.
I used an aol account, by the name of "headless".
Many claim that in a civil war the police and military will be on our side. The video of the electors being blocked by a cop in Michigan is proof that some of those guys care more about where their next paycheck is coming from, than the good of the Republic.
Political Calvinball, so to speak.
Biden had the gall to take a swipe at Trump saying that in America power isn't taken but rather given by the people. The hypocrisy and the shameless are without limit.
I look forward to the execution of righteousness and justice which shall come nigh to restore the American Republic. Biden shall never be POTUS.
State employees vs Federal.
State employee pensions originate from the state.
Military pensions are Federal.
@The Last Roman
Anybody with a clue has realized for years that the badge gang is on nobody's side except for themselves, as they adopted "law enforcement -- no matter how retarded or detrimental to society" as a high priority than their
actual mandate -- keeping the peace. As a direct corollary, as soon as things get hot, BOTH SIDES will be shooting at the cops until there are none to be found.
They have spent decades needlessly harassing every because "muh authoritah!"and they will reap what they have sown.
@161
Map,
1. Kissinger, Albright purged.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-pentagon-defense-policy-board
This followed the removal of Esper and went down during Thanksgiving. Could be related to the Dominion voting plus SolarWinds fiasco, since Carlyle has its thumb in both. See my post @73
2. Clark County, Nevada also showing 70% votes went to reviews, meaning 70% of the votes were rewritten without oversight or accountability by corrupt, partisan hacks. "Your vote counts!" YEAH RIGHT.
h/t to Gateway Pundit
https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1338631925716566017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1338631925716566017%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thegatewaypundit.com%2F2020%2F12%2Fsystemic-purposeful-fraud-clark-county-nevada-dominion-machines-also-kicked-70-ballots-settings%2F
Anti-president Biden's speech for becoming the Anti-president elect got 43,000 views. This is the same man who allegedly got 80,000,000 votes.
@161, Map
Newt, loyalists on Defense Policy Board,
https://www.defensenews.com/congress/2020/12/14/newt-gingrich-and-loyalists-tapped-for-defense-policy-board-as-henry-kissinger-is-ousted/
@161
https://www.defense.gov/Newsroom/Releases/Release/Article/2445770/statement-on-new-appointments-to-the-defense-policy-board/
@165 - Calvinball! Fantastic! That made me quite happy, thanks for the reference :P
What's the deal with Bill Barr? I know the easy response is to say he's a compromised traitor. However, I've listened to him give a speech where he basically (but not in these exact words) calls the other side a cabal of Prometheans committed to the destruction of all goodness. Maybe he's just good at pretending.
But I have another theory. He's truly self deluded by is own "conservative" ideology. His commitment to keeping the DOJ from getting pulled into politics is a fatal and monumental delusion. What he doesn't realize is that if the other side, during Obama and Russia collusion investigation, already used the DOJ for political means, they themselves have abused power and violated the law. Why didn't Barr go after everyone who participated in any dishonesty regarding the FISA court? This is just one of the many crimes by people within the agencies that deserve punishment. Isn't the "apolitical" approach one that would go after the criminals regardless of the political fallout?
In choosing to remain above the fray and not get political, Barr is in fact being political. He has an ideological idea of what the DOJ should be. As a result of his own ideology, he prevented the DOJ from simply punishing evil doers as it is supposed to do. I bring this up because it is important for "conservatives" who think they are fighting on the side of truth, to not let their idea of what is proper and dignified get in the way of simply obeying truth over lies, serving good rather than evil.
It's interesting that in his resignation letter he included the phrase "and promote public confidence in their outcome" (referring to elections). Someone who is fully committed to the truth above their own ideology, would not include that phrase.
As Jim Jatras says; "America is a decaying corpse. Progressives are rooting for the maggots. Conservatives are rooting for the corpse." Barr is one such conservative who was rooting for the corps of a corrupted DOJ. He failed to set aside his own delusional ideology and simply punish evil doers as was his God given prerogative to do, regardless of what that would to the reputation of his precious DOJ corpse.
Those who seek their life will loose it. Those who give up their life will find it.
Brrrrrrrrt...
All,
Thanks for the link of the new defense policy appointments.
Kingly Gift wrote:What's the deal with Bill Barr? I know the easy response is to say he's a compromised traitor. However, I've listened to him give a speech where he basically (but not in these exact words) calls the other side a cabal of Prometheans committed to the destruction of all goodness. Maybe he's just good at pretending.
The problem with prosecutions is you get them in front of the judges like Sullivan. Basically, your defendants are co-conspirators with the legal bench.
Biden said this in his speech yesterday:
"Four years ago, when I was a sitting Vice President of the United States, it was my responsibility to announce the tally of the Electoral College votes of the joint session of Congress, had voted to elect Donald Trump. I did my job."
I think Biden knows he has a problem with Mike Pence and the two sets of electors.
I believe that The GE gives all his hires a "get out of dodge free" card, to be used under ANY circumstances, provided The GE learns of it first. This falls in line with The GE's obvious care of his employees, at all levels. Mr. Barr gave notice to The GE, which allowed him the decent exit we saw yesterday. We may never know what prompted Barr's removal, but he was surely allowed a graceful exit!
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