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Tuesday, December 22, 2020

Red State revolt

It appears that Congress's behavior in passing the revolting National Defense Authorization Act, which makes streaming a federal offense and hands another $500 million to Israel, $135 million to Burma, $86 million to Cambodia, $130 million to Nepal, another $1,400 million to Asian governments, and a paltry $600 to American citizens suffering from the government-imposed economic lockdowns, may be helping stiffen the resolve of the state officials to do their duty:

I've been in talks with state government officials over the past few days. Unlike congress, they have BALLS. There's a plan in the works, and when it hits, it will be absolutely explosive. Sweeping through red America one state at a time like dominoes. If congress doesn't do their job on the sixth, expect media and lib panic to hit previously unseen levels by the news cycle beginning Jan. 11 and escalate from there.

This tends to run counter to what I know of state officials, but the closer that the calendar - if not the actual probability - gets to the realization of what a Biden administration would actually mean for them, the more the emotional pressure on the state officials to do the right thing rather than simply accept the media narrative grows. It's one thing to look at the reported election results and run through the gentlemanly, "well, doggone it, we tried" graceful defeat routine, it's another to look soberly at how badly things are likely to become in short order if you go along with the fake status quo.

Especially when you can see your Blue State counterparts openly breaking the law.

The Michigan Secretary of State directed the county clerks to delete all their electronic voting records. Previous years electric records from 2018 and 2016 are still intact. By law all records are to be preserved for at least 2 years.

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76 Comments:

Blogger Cloudbuster December 22, 2020 6:23 AM  

What's that about it making streaming a federal offense?

Blogger Slippin JImmy December 22, 2020 6:26 AM  

The fact that something like 20 state governments joined the Texas lawsuit was the harbinger that flyover country wasn't going to sit back and take it.

Blogger phil g December 22, 2020 6:37 AM  

Foriegn aid is mostly money laundering with kick backs to congress critters. It's a scam that needs to end.

Blogger Gettimothy December 22, 2020 6:57 AM  

@1payoff to Disney

Blogger Gettimothy December 22, 2020 6:58 AM  

Why is 500 million to Israel a godd thing while 1 million directly to every American a bad thing?

Blogger Paulito December 22, 2020 6:59 AM  

@1 https://yro.slashdot.org/story/20/12/21/219226/the-covid-19-stimulus-bill-would-make-illegal-streaming-a-felony

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 22, 2020 7:15 AM  

They managed to make the election entirely about whether you loved or hated Trump, so no one really talked about what kind of people and policies Biden/Harris would bring into power. As soon as they started naming Cabinet choices and talking about policies, that changed. I've heard people say they had no idea that Biden/Harris wanted to grab guns or enforce national lockdowns and mask mandates. Yeah, there's no excuse for not knowing those things, but NPCs didn't because the MSM didn't talk about it. Now it's starting to sink in.

Blogger tdcommenter December 22, 2020 7:18 AM  

With the pressure on Mitch McConnell, the new bill likely has all of the election and voting fixes that Pelosi has been demanding in the name of demonocracy.

Blogger Captain Barnacles December 22, 2020 7:24 AM  

Vox makes understanding all of this so much easier. If not for this blog, nothing would make sense.

We have made everything so clear for the Republicans; whom to support, oppose, how to vote, what bills to introduce, etc. They’ve never had an easier time of knowing where to stand, to please their constituents. If any Republican politician wanted to, he could secure his political power for 20 years. All they have to do is to support the President.

That is so hard for McConnell and the other trash, though. They choose Baal, and get their tickets laminated. Mr. Eyepatch-Pirate in Texas is a perfect example.

It’s inevitable that state politicians start overthrowing the national Republican party, from the ground up. That or the party dies. Trump is the life force of the Republican Party. The GOPe think they are invulnerable. They are about to learn.

Blogger basementhomebrewer December 22, 2020 7:24 AM  

Is it sinking in that there isn't going to be a 2022 GOPe wave for them? If the right isn't participating in elections anymore, why would the Democrats honor their election fraud deals with the GOPe? The Democrats won't need the fraud anymore.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 22, 2020 7:26 AM  

Dumbest thing ever was to fuck with Red States when they have the guns, military bases, oil and agriculture...

Blogger Jab Burrwalky December 22, 2020 7:43 AM  

It would make "illegal" streaming, of say a Disney+ show, a federal Felony.

Blogger Jon P. R. December 22, 2020 7:46 AM  

I thought that the currently discussed 'covid stimulus' bill with the $600 payments and the pork to all the foreign nations and other crap was separate from the NDAA. Are the two related, or am I just misunderstanding this recent 'covid stimulus' stuff?

Blogger Billy December 22, 2020 7:50 AM  

Every guy I know is spending the $600 towards firearms/ammo. We are rapidly reaching the point where your average American is becoming aware of the wounds that have been inflicted upon them over the past decades. Perhaps the people who benefit from globalisation will get cold feet and suddenly declare the economy open once more, but usually those who are evil enough to still be loyal to corporations and foreign countries in times like these are the true believers.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 22, 2020 7:55 AM  

All those millions doled out numbering way beyond the known number of Americans.
It would be best to simply give every American one million dollars and call it a day.
If we can't stop the printing press then let it run for US.
Southerners refer to this spending bill as "shitting the bed".

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 22, 2020 8:00 AM  

It has been 11 years since I was legislative staff in Juneau. Maybe things have changed since then, but Alaska state officials didn't have balls, let alone BALLS. The GOPe is totally corrupt up here. They aren't going to act unless they are absolutely forced to. Better get in touch with my state rep ...

Blogger Heath D December 22, 2020 8:03 AM  

Now how is Israel supposed to sink another one of our ships if we don’t pay em to do it?

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 22, 2020 8:06 AM  

@1 Cloudbuster:

What's that about it making streaming a federal offense?

Keywords to look up more include Senator Thom Tillis and his Orwellian named "Protecting Lawful Streaming Act", of course a Republican, like the ones who spiked $1,200 relief payments, and illegal streaming felony. In theory limited to doing it for commercial gain, maximum penalty ten years in a Federal prison.

The bill is 5,593 pages long, as usual six hours or so to read it before voting it, in part due to a claimed computer glitch which "corrupted" one portion of it.

Blogger Johnny December 22, 2020 8:17 AM  

What I expect if Biden gets in is a huge bailout for those lefty cities that have been abusing their own citizens. That may be why Cuomo and some others are sustaining the shutdowns. They expect a big hand out; money they can spend, not income to their citizens. To be adequate, the amount of money would have to be huge. In the trillions. Those cities are all headed for deep, deep financial trouble.

Blogger Steve Sky December 22, 2020 8:20 AM  

@Cloudbuster - That puzzled me as well, so I went looking and found that it overturned President Trump's EO against federal employees installing TikTok. Given that Chinese Intelligence uses TikTok for data gathering, I find it hard to see how this is a win.

Blogger Akulkis December 22, 2020 8:31 AM  

Here in Michigan, I have noticed that random strangers passing each other in grocery store aisles are starting to talk more and more about violent means of getting rid of Gov. WITCHmer and the cabal of state officials propping up her tyrrany. Secretary of State will soon be on everyone's radar, too.

Civil War 2 might very well start here.

Blogger Caleo December 22, 2020 8:32 AM  

Just 2 more weeks guys, I swear.

Blogger Andrew F December 22, 2020 8:40 AM  

Hopefully the prospect of bailing out California, New York and Illinois helps the red state legislators grow a spine.

Blogger Shane Bradman December 22, 2020 8:53 AM  

That $2.25b could be spent on rebuilding American businesses. Who the fuck cares about foreign countries in a time of (self-induced) crisis?

Blogger Mike Wallens December 22, 2020 9:07 AM  

All of the "conservative" web site I have seen, have conveniently left out the 500,000,000 for Israel part. The cons are worked up in a froth about money to Pakistan with not a peep about money to the most special country in the world.

Blogger Wryprotagonist December 22, 2020 9:09 AM  

The $700M of foreign aid makes sense if you reckon that they were confused and thought that Sudan was in Minnesota.

Blogger xevious2030 December 22, 2020 9:11 AM  

If Joe doesn’t concede, perhaps an upping of the ante. Just so everyone has skin in the game. Mon 21 Dec 2020 22:47:09 4chan Time: 12/21/20(Mon)23:47 No.297949854

Blogger Nostromo December 22, 2020 9:15 AM  

I dgunno... I'm generally against capitol punishment, but if this POS bill makes it through, I'm ready to start syringing up some traitors. I pray Trump has enough backbone to veto this crap. Because if he does, the wailing by the media, the left, AND the GOPe will be defeaning.

Blogger berb2000 December 22, 2020 9:17 AM  

I spent let's say 20 years trying to convince reasonably intelligent good friends to stop voting for the libtard overlords and they wouldn't listen. They gleefully pretend they are still 20 years old and that Henry Rollins is the best guy ever. I look at their internet drippings and sometimes get lost in their stupidity. I wonder when the hammer will drop. I wonder when even they will finally realize their mistake in following these politicians and musicians and atheletes. I also fear that if this goes on much further, the backlash against this evil garbage will chew them up and spit them out as they leave a permanent record of their thoughts and beliefs. Maybe the internet is just a way forward to a new witch hunt for the left, as it seems it is now. What are they going to do when it flips?

Blogger xyzzyx December 22, 2020 9:18 AM  

I believe Trump is going to veto this because there is no provision for repealing Section 230 from what I see. Hope he does because the $600 is an insult, I don't want it.

Blogger nyan December 22, 2020 9:20 AM  

Cloudbuster wrote:What's that about it making streaming a federal offense?

There's an article about it here: https://www.tvtechnology.com/news/pirating-streaming-content-to-become-felony I haven't found a good document that examines the legal language yet tho.

Blogger berb2000 December 22, 2020 9:21 AM  

I got on a weird tangent with my last post. My apologies. I wonder just what the states assemblies can do? I mean I know they can hold a meeting to change the constitution in some way, but I forget in which way they can do so.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 22, 2020 9:28 AM  

This appears to be an accurate copy of the "UNAUTHORIZED STREAMING" language from the huge bill.

Blogger LoneWolf December 22, 2020 9:33 AM  

"$500 million to Israel"

And (((they))) have utter contempt for us.

Blogger Joeplanet December 22, 2020 9:54 AM  

Shut up and bleed money, host.
That’s your job until you run out of money. Then we bleed you.

Blogger Freedom from Liberals December 22, 2020 9:58 AM  

Exactly

Blogger Freedom from Liberals December 22, 2020 10:02 AM  

Does this represent a shift in GEOTUS' strategy bc of betrayal at the federal level or is it added support? (Ie Trump never expected help from the GOP swamp)

Blogger Freedom from Liberals December 22, 2020 10:05 AM  

Why waste money on syringes &poison when rope is reusable?

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 22, 2020 10:05 AM  

@19 Johnny:

What I expect if Biden gets in is a huge bailout for those lefty cities that have been abusing their own citizens. That may be why Cuomo and some others are sustaining the shutdowns. They expect a big hand out; money they can spend, not income to their citizens. To be adequate, the amount of money would have to be huge. In the trillions. Those cities are all headed for deep, deep financial trouble.

I've been thinking that as well, but likely even more for states controlled by their big Blue cities, the latter can file for bankruptcy, states are sovereign entities that can't under current law. All can be papered over with trillions more in free money, although I don't yet have a grasp on what that will do, with all the deflation baked in the pie from for example all these small and medium sized businesses facing ruin, not paying for the real estate they're leasing, etc.

A lot of wealth is being destroyed, and NYC is being described as an extreme case where a great many people and firms are leaving or seriously considering leaving, now that much of what they value about the city like restaurants are dead or dying.

Blogger nbfdmd December 22, 2020 10:08 AM  

Jab Burrwalky wrote:It would make "illegal" streaming, of say a Disney+ show, a federal Felony.

Watching Disney+ LEGALLY should be a felony...

Blogger Argus Bacchus December 22, 2020 10:10 AM  

@Wryprotagonist

Sudan isn't in Minnesota?

Oh yeah, that's Somalia. Nevermind.

Also, with Cambodia getting $86 million, the Dead Kennedys' next holiday there will be the best one yet.

Blogger Angular_bear December 22, 2020 10:13 AM  

Uh, you need to check your math buddy.

Blogger Freedom from Liberals December 22, 2020 10:15 AM  

Isn't aiding and abetting Chinese intelligence by allowing/encouraging TikTok grounds for Trump to arrest anyone who voted for this piece of garbage? That may be a thin case but is at least grounds for investigation, search warrants etc. There has to be a point at which passing a "law" is so flagrantly in violation of the constitution and/or endangers clear national security interests that it constitutes subversion.

Blogger Angular_bear December 22, 2020 10:17 AM  

Except it would hundreds of trillions, that won't end well.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 22, 2020 10:22 AM  

Revolutions happen when the enablers and functionaries of the state feel the heat especially starting at the lower local level then up. IMO we in the USA are still in the let us listen to our intellectuals make magic words phase, but that is passing.

Over at Gab at the supersekretclub for WRSA they have a good read pinned in the group it is about basically think nationally act locally. Basically what I wrote but more literate.

Blogger Tommy Hass December 22, 2020 10:23 AM  

Well, at least they're killing Arabs, right? :D

Jokes aside, doing this after Netanyahu pulled a Littlefinger on Trump is just the icing on the cake. Yikes!

Blogger Balam December 22, 2020 10:23 AM  

Biden will not get in but historical precedent is that the agitators who help communists get in are the first executed. Rebels are only good for rebelling and you can't have that once you've overthrown the legitimate government. See 'Red Guard'.

Blogger Balkan Yankee December 22, 2020 10:53 AM  

Like baby chicks on the proverbial hot plate, state and local officials live much closer to the people than federal officials do.

BTW: NDAA is separate from the Covid spending package. Trump has promised to veto the former because it would not repeal Section 230.

Blogger Kingly Gift December 22, 2020 11:02 AM  

What does Vox mean by "streaming a federal offense"? I haven't heard about that detail of this bill.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 22, 2020 11:15 AM  

Wryprotagonist wrote:... they were confused and thought that Sudan was in Minnesota.
A lot of Sudan is in Minnesota.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast December 22, 2020 11:19 AM  

Conservative live-streamers, from Salty Cracker all the way up to Rush, had better be judicious in their use of musical segues. Most of us don't want to hear the shit anyway.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 22, 2020 11:20 AM  

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:... the latter can file for bankruptcy, states are sovereign entities that can't under current law.
States are sovereign entities means they don't need to file for bankruptcy. Sovereign debt is usually settled by default. No sovereign needs a court's permission to default. The sovereign merely announces ``We have altered the terms of the agreement. Pray that we do not alter them further.''

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 22, 2020 11:23 AM  

Captain Barnacles wrote:It’s inevitable that state politicians start overthrowing the national Republican party, from the ground up. That or the party dies.Ominous Cowherd wrote:The GOPe is totally corrupt up here.
The Alaska GOPe froze out the Tea Partiers they couldn't subvert. They corruptly froze out any group or individual who tried to address their corruption.

If the National GOP depends on the State GOPe, the GOP dies. There are a lot of Trump voters, and there aren't many GOP cuck voters left, and those few are getting old.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast December 22, 2020 11:25 AM  

I'd advise the trans-neuters to avoid man versus woman wrestling. That could turn brutal, though it might be the only sport that will be fun to watch in the next few years.

Blogger Beery Swine December 22, 2020 12:16 PM  

I'm not at all concerned with inflation, so long as Trump wins, because I fully expect him to end the fed and institute gold-backed currency, or something similar. All those millions to foreign countries won't mean shit when the USD is worth exactly zero euros, but the $600 in the meantime to every American citizen means more food, shelter, water, and means of defense.

Blogger Bezzle December 22, 2020 12:25 PM  

@0 This tends to run counter to what I know of state officials...

/pol/ is drenched in LARP hopium (and what's with Q only having one post in almost fifty days?), but it could very well happen after the next predictable back-stab (for example Pence certifying the stolen election rather than rather than rejecting them in favor of the Republican alternate slates from the 7 contested states).


@1. Cloudbuster December 22, 2020 6:23 AM
What's that about it making streaming a federal offense?

It's about this.


@8. tdcommenter December 22, 2020 7:18 AM
With the pressure on Mitch McConnell...
@48. Balkan Yankee December 22, 2020 10:53 AM
Like baby chicks on the proverbial hot plate, state and local officials live much closer to the people than federal officials do.

There is no "pressure" on these people. (E.g., see the Minneapolis city council.) They sold their souls so long ago, and have been in pure actor/shill mode for so long, that the idea of anything ever going wrong with their masters' schemes never occurs to them. They don't write these bills, and they don't read them. And while some are pure communist, most never even think about consequences. Politicians are just the foot-soldier face of the machine, and in exchange for living rich, then do as they're instructed by party-handlers and Black Rock enforcers. If anyone ever bucks the line, it's because it's a) part of the face/heel narrative, b) they're small to the point of insignificance (i.e., way out in the sticks), or c) feeling their oats and cruising for a whack-job.

Kompromat has largely eliminated c) over the last half-century. *Nobody* (at least, no one without a massive, hidden support Q-team behind them) survives the primary process to get anywhere near halls of power without being thoroughly control-filed.

On the day any critter has their house burn down over their head, they'll have this wild-eyed shocked expression on their face. They simply won't understand it, because it wasn't in the script.


@16. Ominous Cowherd December 22, 2020 8:00 AM
It has been 11 years since I was legislative staff in Juneau. Maybe things have changed since then, but Alaska state officials didn't have balls, let alone BALLS. The GOPe is totally corrupt up here.

^^^ Voice of experience. When I was a wee pup, I found myself in the local diploma mill's College Republican club. Almost none of them had any interest in history or philosophy, but instead were concerned with grooming contacts to be promoted up networks. And this was during the Reagan administration at the height of the Cold War when Soviet proxies were attempting to take over the Caribbean.


@26. Wryprotagonist December 22, 2020 9:09 AM
The $700M of foreign aid makes sense if you...

It represents three year's worth of pent-up K-Street wetdreams unleashed in a massive spooge. One of two things is at work here: Either they're assuming that Trump won't veto it because Americans are struggling and could really use $600 right now, or "patriots are in control".

If Trump signs it, but reallocates the monies, then the latter is in place. (If he signs it, but lets it ride as written, then very weird things are afoot.)

Blogger weka December 22, 2020 1:25 PM  

You forgot honey traps.

Blogger Ska_Boss December 22, 2020 2:59 PM  

To all normies: still not convinced that the government hates you yet?

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 22, 2020 3:36 PM  

"Why waste money on syringes &poison when rope is reusable?"

Why waste time on rope when machetes are faster?

Blogger liberranter December 22, 2020 4:17 PM  

If any Republican politician wanted to, he could secure his political power for 20 years.

They've already secured their power for 20 years and LONGER. They no longer have to worry about pleasing constituents under the current corrupt system.

Blogger Unknown December 22, 2020 4:18 PM  

And it gets worse, MEMES are illegal too in that 5000+ page voted in 2 hour shit.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/12/21/atrocious-congress-crams-language-criminalize-online-streaming-meme-sharing-5500

Blogger Unknown December 22, 2020 4:20 PM  

Or take down 3 very tall buildings.

Blogger Joe December 22, 2020 4:31 PM  

"and a paltry $600 to American citizens suffering from the government-imposed economic lockdowns"

This smacks of the promethean practice of mocking their victims. I wonder if they would have announced it if they knew of the fight they still have on their hands.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling December 22, 2020 5:26 PM  

@61 Unknown:

And it gets worse, MEMES are illegal too in that 5000+ page voted in 2 hour shit.

Fortunately not; it's an attempt to set up a small claims court system for copyrights, but:

‘‘§ 1504. Nature of proceedings

‘‘(a) VOLUNTARY PARTICIPATION .—Participation in a Copyright Claims Board proceeding shall be on a voluntary basis in accordance with this chapter, and the right of any party to instead pursue a claim, counterclaim, or defense in a district court of the United States, any other court, or any other forum, and to seek a jury trial, shall be preserved....


It's opt-out for either side. I'll bet Patreon wishes it could change its mind and opt-out of the arbitration proceedings it formerly required as the only way of obtaining redress from it.

Blogger Newscaper312 December 22, 2020 5:54 PM  

Question: Will the alpha in Trump let him veto a bill if it will likely be overridden by a large enough majority?
Will he let himself arguably lose face even though it would be a helpful line in the sand?

Blogger Voracious Reader December 22, 2020 7:11 PM  

@48

All, "Balkan Yankee" has it right. Try not to get these two entirely separate bills confused. The legacy MSM is counting on your confusion.

NDAA (HR 6395) was passed by Congress 11 Dec 20. It must be signed by the President by 23 Dec (tomorrow) or else it is considered a "pocket veto." It passed 335-78 in the House, 84-13 Senate, well within the 2/3rds necessary to override. If they want to override in the Senate, they have to come back to DC. The House has that stupid proxy vote they can wield over Zoom, if they want. Trump has said this bill will not be signed by him because it did not contain Sec. 230 Big Tech repeals.

The coronavirus relief/FY2021 bill (HR 133) was passed 21 Dec at 9:08pm in the House, and 10:48pm in the Senate. That is the one with the outrageous foreign aid figures, and the $600 pay-off check to voters. Trump has 10 days to sign it from the 21 Dec date. It most likely will be signed by Trump before Christmas, if the $600 payments promised by Sec. Mnuchin for next week are to happen.

(Following this kind of stuff is my day job.)

Blogger Unknown December 22, 2020 7:15 PM  

It's all fake money anyways, we just had the money printer go brrrrrrrrr! To the tune of trillions of dollars in payouts in the last couple of years. Who cares? Give everyone $100 million, freeze prices and if China or anyone else complains, rod-of-god them, problem solved.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother December 22, 2020 7:55 PM  

Veto both bills, then light up all channels for Americans to flood their reps' inboxes to demand they do not vote to override.

Blogger Jack Amok December 22, 2020 8:02 PM  

Why waste time on rope when machetes are faster?

Baseball bats don't need to be periodically sharpened, and they provide a good all-around workout. Call it Crossfit for the Based.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 22, 2020 8:02 PM  

Question: Will the alpha in Trump let him veto a bill if it will likely be overridden by a large enough majority?
Will he let himself arguably lose face even though it would be a helpful line in the sand?


He just put up an announcement about the pork bill on his twatter. He's vetoing, and explains why.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume December 22, 2020 8:24 PM  

@66

Is there any truth the rumor that there is a provision in HR 133 that nullifies the president's use of the Insurrection Act/

Blogger Patrick McNally December 22, 2020 8:29 PM  

Trump does appear to have rejected and for reasonable causes. I was afraid that he might reject it for not paying out enough moola to Israel, but I think he means to cover that separately anyway,

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot December 22, 2020 9:21 PM  

Those cities are all headed for deep, deep financial trouble.

Those cities, and the states they're in, are already bankrupt, and the pension bubble's fixin' to burst. Just imagine how much of our souls would be demanded to "save the old folks!" under a Harris regime.

Blogger Voracious Reader December 22, 2020 9:32 PM  

@71

In the NDAA (HR 6395), there is an amendment (H.Amdt. 833, introduced by Rep. Veronica Escobar (D-TX-16, El Paso), making changes to the Insurrection Act. It requires certifications to be made to Congress when a President deploys active duty military in domestic situation. It passed in the House 215-190, on July 20, 2020.

The amendment text can be found on page H3329, of the 20 July 20 Congressional Record.

Here is what Ms. Escobar is trying to do, in her own words on the House floor:

"We are asking for the same transparency and [Congressional] consultation when a President decides to use troops on American soil as when he decides to send troops abroad."

Mr. Lamborn, Kelly, and Bergman responded in the right way on the following two pages. Ms. Omar croaked her way into the CR, too.

This amendment likely showed up in July because of the initial threats of Trump to use the Insurrection Act against Portland and Minneapolis protests earlier this summer. It's the Dems trying to cut Trump's authority off at the knees at the start of this trouble.

I am not an expert in Insurrection Act or DoD legislation (energy is my present world), but it looks like she wants to give Congress the same power it does for the War Powers resolutions the WH has to file with Congress when it undertakes our foreign misadventures.

(BTW, Congress may not have that power under the Constitution, for foreign and domestic adventures, so Trump could just ignore it for quick actions like what is being contemplated and let the lawyers sort it out after the fun is over.)

I didn't see a "what happens if Trump sends them an artfully worded letter and otherwise tells Congress to pound sand" penalty section in the amendment, so there may be no other penalty for ignoring this than Congress cutting off the money in the next budget cycle.

Which would be superfluous if the surmised Insurrection Act actions by SOCOM against select domestic targets lasted no longer than a week, per good 4GW doctrine. And if half of the expected arrestees are Democratic lawmakers facing RICO, conspiracy, sedition and treason charges, than it really would not matter what Congress would think at all.

I hope this information is helpful in some way. There is a lot of ordinary talk going around confusing a slew of bills Congress is working its way through at the end of this session.

Here is the link to the amendment:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/116-2020/h141

Link to the Congressional Record pages:
https://www.congress.gov/congressional-record/volume-166/house-section/page/H3329

Blogger Voracious Reader December 22, 2020 9:50 PM  

@71

Also remember the power of signing statements. Trump can, and has, signed bills and then immediately signed a legal document similar to an EO that says section 123 of this bill does not apply to whatever issue he has a problem with. Is that legally enforceable in a court? Who knows? This is the power of the Executive Branch versus the Judicial Branch.

Reagan started this in 1986, thanks to then-attorney Samuel Alito. Massive horse's cock WH Counsel Bernard Nussbaum in the Clinton Admin wrote this below, which nicely sums up a signing statement's rationale and reach:

"If the President may properly decline to enforce a law, at least when it unconstitutionally encroaches on his powers, then it arguably follows that he may properly announce to Congress and to the public that he will not enforce a provision of an enactment he is signing. If so, then a signing statement that challenges what the President determines to be an unconstitutional encroachment on his power, or that announces the President's unwillingness to enforce (or willingness to litigate) such a provision, can be a valid and reasonable exercise of Presidential authority."

These kinds of arguments are johnson-measuring contests in Washington. The laws that you and I have to follow do not apply in the same way to those situated at lofty levels of modern power.

Update: Looks like GEOTUS may now veto the relief package legislation, citing the $600 as too low. He's now shooting for the moon and seeking $2K. Pelosi is agreeing with him, but too thick to realize Trump is going demand zeroing out the foreign aid money the Dem lobbyists snuck into the package. LOL.

...Just arrest these people and get that uncomfortable part over with so we can start the trials and clean up this mess one cartridge at a time.

Blogger Emmett Fitz-Hume December 23, 2020 6:09 AM  

@74

Thanks for the explanation. Sounds like, as usual, the rumors had a hint of truth to them but not the whole story.

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