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Wednesday, December 02, 2020

Supreme Court now has option on PA

Pretty soon we should learn if the Supreme Court will decide if it wants to decide the presidential election or not:

An effort to overturn the presidential election results in Pennsylvania made its way to the Supreme Court Tuesday. Republican Rep. Mike Kelly, R-Pa., and others, including Sean Parnell, contend state officials had no right under the Pennsylvania Constitution to expand mail-in voting in 2019, and the state Supreme Court was wrong to uphold that statute. The group called it “an unconstitutional, no-excuse absentee voting scheme.”

“Pennsylvania’s General Assembly exceeded its powers by unconstitutionally allowing no-excuse absentee voting, including for federal offices, in the election,” the challengers argued in court papers. As a result, the election was “conducted illegally.”

The group seeks an emergency injunction from the nation’s highest court to block the completion of any remaining steps in the state’s certification of Pennsylvania’s 2020 election results, which took place last week. The petition was submitted to Associate Justice Samuel Alito. The court will now decide whether to take the case.

Don't get too worked up over this one way or the other. The Supreme Court is merely the backup plan in the likely event that the state officials don't heed the President's warnings and do the right thing. And there is a backup to the backup plan that may, in fact, be the primary plan given the way in which so many have repeatedly chosen to ignore the warnings they have been given.

UPDATE: Speaking of the backup to the backup plan:

A week after receiving his pardon from President Donald Trump, former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn promoted a call for the president to “temporarily suspend the Constitution” and put the country under martial law.

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124 Comments:

Blogger Faust December 02, 2020 1:04 PM  

Nick Rekieta did an excellent breakdown last night

Blogger Jack Tanner December 02, 2020 1:04 PM  

Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces.

Blogger RobertDWood December 02, 2020 1:06 PM  

It is good when the machinery of the process is actually working

Blogger basementhomebrewer December 02, 2020 1:08 PM  

Any thoughts on timing? December 14th is the conventional thought on deadline for something to happen. Is there any advantage to wait till after the EC has voted?

Blogger Terry A. Kirkpatrick December 02, 2020 1:10 PM  

I give ... what's the backup to the backup?

Blogger FUBARwest December 02, 2020 1:11 PM  

We have a 12 then 49 day countdown going on right now. Pray Trump has the strength to do what has to be done.

Blogger Rex Little December 02, 2020 1:13 PM  

Even if PA is overturned, that still leaves Biden with over 270. Are there any other states where a reversal is legally still in play?

Blogger Crew December 02, 2020 1:16 PM  

The Rubicon must be crossed!

I am happy to support the God Emperor Trump as my Emperor!

Blogger Dafo December 02, 2020 1:17 PM  

Biden won a record low number of counties, so the split would be very disproportionate... not that it’s a bad thing.

Blogger Stilicho December 02, 2020 1:17 PM  

I'm not sure this will be the case Scotus wants to take, given the other cases wending their way through the system and you can be sure they are watching them. On the other hand, it does present a "clean" constitutional issue. Further, even if they decide that mail-in voting is constitutional, all of the other cases based on various frauds as well as unconstitutional acts by state govts ignoring fraud will not be hampered by such a ruling. This is just one part of a multi-pronged attack.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz December 02, 2020 1:18 PM  

Aren't the electors supposed to be presented on the 14th?

Q said tv worthy...apparently a Jerry Bruckheimer production with nods to Tom Clancy...

Blogger Metric December 02, 2020 1:20 PM  

Republican officials might be using the SCOTUS-track as an excuse to cuck. They tell themselves they don't actually have to do anything, it's not their place, leave it to the SCOTUS, etc. Results might be better if it was a straight "A vs. B" decision, 100% on them, recorded for posterity.

Blogger tuberman December 02, 2020 1:26 PM  

>> Don't get too worked up over this one way or the other. The Supreme Court is merely the backup plan in the likely event that the state officials don't heed the President's warnings and do the right thing. And there is a backup to the backup plan that may, in fact, be the primary plan given the way in which so many have repeatedly chosen to ignore the warnings they have been given.


Yes, even if the SC totally comes out on Trump's side, he will still need to Cross the Rubicon, as the other team will force it.

Blogger Kirk December 02, 2020 1:29 PM  

Nevada is going good and rather fast.

Blogger Red December 02, 2020 1:31 PM  

If you breach the wall with one state, the rest will have standing and momentum to act in concert. The pressure will rise and the dam will break.

Blogger d December 02, 2020 1:34 PM  

Worst-case scenario, President Trump's tenure up to and including this 2020 election proves a breadth and depth of government-lifer lawlessness that is far beyond what the general population knew prior to Trump. His legacy to date is that he unmasked the criminality of the governing cartel(s) and their contempt of the peasantry.

What we do with that information will decide our fate. And that is as much justice as we deserve, having surrendered Christendom to this state of progressive degeneracy.

Blogger Lazy Hero December 02, 2020 1:36 PM  

In the 6 swing states no electoral votes have been certified by a state legislature, so its actually 232 for Trump and 227 for sleazy. And sleazy has to have everything go right for him, which it won't, to get legitimately certified 270 electoral votes.

Blogger RJ December 02, 2020 1:37 PM  

@7 Nevada, Arizona, Georgia, Wisconsin, and Michigan are all still legally in play, Rex...

Blogger JD Curtis December 02, 2020 1:37 PM  

Lin Wood and Sidney Powell will be giving a presser at 2:05 EST

Blogger K December 02, 2020 1:38 PM  

@2 - Why should any patriotic American who is loyal to the ideals of liberty, who currently live in all 50 states, be forced to move or live under some partition scheme that will inevitably lead to war? Any sort of Blue State autonomous zone will immediately result in openly hostile suppression of personal liberty and ChiCom presence in their 'zone'. Better solution: Offer anyone who doesn't like Constitutional and Natural rights a one-way ticket to anywhere-but-here, before fixing bayonets and marching the remainers over the Mexican border or into the sea. POTUS should cross the Rubicon and let this ugly business begin now, so we can live in peace in a few years.

Blogger Cedric December 02, 2020 1:38 PM  

Think crossing the Rubicon is the primary plan, makes the most sense with what has transpired thus far. Looks like we're being corralled in that direction. The characters on stage right now are moving us towards that inevitability.

Blogger VD December 02, 2020 1:39 PM  

I give ... what's the backup to the backup?

Crossing the Rubicon.

Blogger Hammer December 02, 2020 1:45 PM  

VD, which one of the 3 do you think is gonna happen?

Blogger Jeff aka Orville December 02, 2020 1:45 PM  

There was another deadline approaching concerning the election EO. DNI Ratcliff needs to present data to the Executive on whether there was election fraud within 30 days so 12/4 (I think). Or maybe it was 45 days, which would put it a few days past the 14th. So in either case a report from DNI Ratcliffe on voter fraud will likely be submitted before the 14th.

Blogger doctrev December 02, 2020 1:48 PM  

Terry A. Kirkpatrick wrote:I give ... what's the backup to the backup?

Sometimes I wonder how many people only woke up to the situation today. Honestly, the Dems have made martial law such an inviting option for President Trump I'm personally astonished that he hasn't done it yet. It's a battlefield overwhelmingly shaped for him to win, and most of it by the catastrophic mistakes of his enemies (like "defund the police").

Blogger Unknown December 02, 2020 1:48 PM  

I'm quite sure Gen. Flynn knows full-well there will be no "temporary" suspension of the Constitution.

Unless he's measuring the time said "suspension" will be "temporarily" in place in years - not days, weeks or even months. Years.

As in long-enough to clean-out The Swamp from top to the very bottom.

Years.

Full Disclosure: I fully support POTUS Trump if he choses to deploy this option.

Blogger Crew December 02, 2020 1:48 PM  

Crossing the Rubicon.

Crossed, the Rubicon will be!

Blogger Rek. December 02, 2020 1:49 PM  

May God bless the president to act courageously and not falter. It's not going to be pretty but it is just. Rubicon Don!!

Blogger Cyrus Tyr December 02, 2020 1:49 PM  

Thanks, Vox, for being one of the few voices of reason and hope during these interesting times! I am not only praying for President Trump, his family, and this country (the real America) as well as donating to his legal fund and writing the President, by showing my support for any action he deems necessary to defend this country, her people and the Constitution. #StoptheSteal #CrosstheRubicon

Blogger Clint December 02, 2020 1:50 PM  

As Bannon says, if one falls, they all fall. We just need one of these states to finally show Trump as winner, and Biden was only up due to obvious fraud. Once that happens, these others will tumble and fall into line.

If not, then Across the Rubicon we must go.

Blogger Storm Rhode December 02, 2020 1:54 PM  

Lead

Blogger Nils December 02, 2020 1:59 PM  

Grandpa what did Donald Augustus say when he came down the golden stairs? "go on, try getting it out, try getting it out, you don't even know what you're talking about."

Blogger Noah B. December 02, 2020 1:59 PM  

It's difficult to say at what point disinformation becomes insurrection but wherever the line is the mockingbird media has moved well beyond it. This is especially true when they are assisting a foreign-sponsored attack.

Blogger Tom d December 02, 2020 2:01 PM  

Terry A. Kirkpatrick wrote:I give ... what's the backup to the backup?
Military tribunals...it's been rumored and theorized that the 'Kraken' is to use the Insurrection Act, declare Martial Law, and for Sidney Powell to use her registration as a Military Lawyer to try 'the powers that be' for Treason under Military law.

Blogger vmax71 December 02, 2020 2:01 PM  

I am in FULL support of POTUS Trump declaring martial law if required.

Blogger Damelon Brinn December 02, 2020 2:09 PM  

We just need one of these states to finally show Trump as winner, and Biden was only up due to obvious fraud.

In addition to the legal questions, that's one thing that would crack the media blackout. When a state that the Fake News prematurely called for Biden assigns its electors to Trump, they will be forced to cover it.

Blogger LoneWolf December 02, 2020 2:12 PM  

@2 Jack Tanner: "Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces."

Hear hear!

Blogger Andrew Jackson December 02, 2020 2:22 PM  

Send the traitors to Gitmo! Throw them in dungeons like Lincoln!

Blogger AJ December 02, 2020 2:30 PM  

@2 No, the country cannot be split up. You're going to be content to have them at your borders. And when they come inside your borders, will you split it again?
Ridiculous

Blogger tuberman December 02, 2020 2:30 PM  

Check out PROMETHEUS. It's about 'who' has control in these situations, and there has been increasing training for urban warfare lately.

Blogger Ahnaf Ibn Qais December 02, 2020 2:34 PM  

SCOTUS is Normie-Theatre honestly; its primary objective is to wake up the Sheeple to the Country being sold to the highest bidder. If that angle does not work out; the President has every right to Crack down *directly* on the Treason.

Frankly, I think that would be for the best, considering how utterly corrupt these officials are; especially considering how some of them chose to sell off the US for a mere few hundred thousand bucks from the Chinese, Venezuelans, etc.

For such Lowlife and Vermin, the Rope is better. Or Lead. Or the Needle... or whatever else that rids of them.

Blogger Azimus December 02, 2020 2:35 PM  

One side said there was fraud. One side said there wasn't. Each side has thousands of people. One side MUST be lying.

One side is signing sworn depositions under penalty of perjury to what they saw. They are holding press conferences, testifying at hearings, providing evidence. You know the names and faces of many of them.

The other side is skipping hearings, going into hiding, lawyering up, stealing evidence, destroying evidence, obstructing investigations, suppressing/deleting video and photo evidence and preventing it from being made public.

I wonder which side is lying?

We can't just prove fraud and ha ha we win everybody gets a pardon like the Army of Northern Virginia.

People need to go to prison. Thousands of people and I include "the elite." It must happen, or there's no point in voting again.

Blogger Joeplanet December 02, 2020 2:39 PM  

Yeah no. He is not going to do anything but maintain the union. He is a civ Nat Boomer. He is however planning to remove the entire fifth column. That’s every city in every state and territory.

Blogger DudeThatLovesProverbs December 02, 2020 2:39 PM  

Cross the Rubicon!

Blogger KPKinSunnyPhiladelphia December 02, 2020 2:45 PM  

Even though Alito is no doubt totally on board with the fact that PA certainly conducted both an illegal and fraudulent election, persuading the other right leaning Supremes is a tall order.

The separation of powers thingy will make them VERY hesitant to "change" election results. The constitution is explicit on the fact that is the state legislatures who choose both the method of election and the electors, and the PA legislature did pass a law, even though it violated the State's constitution.

I can imagine Alioto crafting an opinion that says, "Look, it's not our job to get in front of a state legislature, but, guys, c'mon. The whole thing is fucking bogus. You know it, they know it, we all know it. We can't choose the electors, but you can, and you should choose the electors for the GEOTUS."

As a poster above noted, it really is a game of "who is going first." All we need is one Republican controlled state legislature to break ranks. If they do, the others will have more incentive to follow along.

The courts probably won't make the victory happen, but rather provide cover for those who could, assuming they have the courage.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 02, 2020 2:47 PM  

Jack Tanner wrote:Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces.
Jack, we are already splint into 50. We just need to up the autonomy a bit.

Blogger Azimus December 02, 2020 2:47 PM  

And what - you think that would satisfy them? To rule themselves? They already have that. They want to rule YOU, to steal YOUR resources. They have zero interest in what you propose, they will not break off the engagement until its all theirs. The breakup of the USA in 2033 predicted by our host, IMO of course, is temporary. What follows is consolidation, and the dirtiest fighter wins. Evil's hunger is only safisfied for a season.

Blogger Salt December 02, 2020 2:51 PM  

Stilicho wrote:it does present a "clean" constitutional issue

It's Pennsylvania's Constitution which is in play, and that, unequivocally, says what PA did cannot be done. To allow such to stand does damage both to Pennsylvania and SCOTUS.

Blogger VFM #7634 December 02, 2020 2:51 PM  

@Rex Little

Wisconsin.

Blogger El Rojo December 02, 2020 2:52 PM  

Jack Tanner wrote:Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces.

Nonsense.

America will not balkanize. (one of the extremely few things I'd quibble with vox about)

We are just not divided geographically. Outside the urban areas even the bluest of the "blue states" are red in their rural areas.

We are divided Urban/Suburban left vs. Suburban/Rural Right. (with some crossover...)

The US civil war 2.0 will resemble the Spanish civil war, in addition to tens of millions of people being displaced from the big cities. (and sent back to where they came from or whomever will have them)

It will be VICIOUS and NASTY.

Best case scenario: Trump or someone Good on the Right is in charge, and somewhat in control of the military when the commies kick it off.

US civil war 2.0 will be for all the marbles.

Blogger map December 02, 2020 2:54 PM  

LoneWolf wrote:@2 Jack Tanner: "Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces."

Hear hear!


No...a thousand times, no.

There will be no partitioning.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast December 02, 2020 2:58 PM  

I agree with General Flynn. In fact, I've been wanting nartial law since the 2016 election. If I die under a nartial law imposed by Trump, I'll die a happy man.

Blogger GE 4 MO December 02, 2020 3:00 PM  

@17. Lazy hero

"In the 6 swing states no electoral votes have been certified by a state legislature, so its actually 232 for Trump and 227 for sleazy. And sleazy has to have everything go right for him, which it won't, to get legitimately certified 270 electoral votes."


Woah, I didn't know this. So the media saying these states have already certified is yet another grabble and they're yet to go through the most crucial part of that certification?
I admit, I fell for the demoralisation tactics on that one and was thinking we needed legislatures to now *reverse* their decision.

Then again, I'm a Brit!

Blogger xevious2030 December 02, 2020 3:04 PM  

"given the way in which so many have repeatedly chosen to ignore the warnings they have been given"

That's the thing about free will. People are free to make choices, but likely behavior, and a pattern by such, is not a concept thereby removed from reality. Nor is consequence. You can count on evil to do as Evil does. But you still give it a choice.

Matthew 10:16 Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. [note, Akeraios does not mean pacifist, even in the slightest, at all]

Blogger Krymneth December 02, 2020 3:07 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:When a state that the Fake News prematurely called for Biden assigns its electors to Trump, they will be forced to cover it.

I have wondered just how far the media's dedication to the bit would get. Would they fake up an inauguration for Biden? Create a steady stream of fake Congressional actions? How far would they go?

Probably not this far. Probably. But I do still find myself wondering; how far will they go now? They've stretched and skewed and edited and "augmented" (with anonymous sources and reports on rumors) the truth for a long time, but they've gone full-hog into outright blatent lying now. How much of an alternate reality will they try to weave? What is the limit?

Blogger boogeyman December 02, 2020 3:08 PM  

Abe Lincoln did all sorts of unconstitutional crap that would cause today's bow-tie brigade to burst into flame, up to and including waging a civil war he instigated. Today we see him as the greatest American hero after Washington.

History is written by the winners. Trump likes being a winner.

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 02, 2020 3:09 PM  

"In like Flynn"

Blogger Silent Draco December 02, 2020 3:14 PM  

Go full Diocletian, but this time it's not Christians who get persecuted.

Blogger PeopleMakerBear December 02, 2020 3:17 PM  

Martial law is horrible backup to the backup plan.

Blogger Angantyr December 02, 2020 3:18 PM  

LoneWolf wrote:@2 Jack Tanner: "Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces."

Hear hear!


Much as I'd like to see the progs flounder about like CHAZ up in Seattle, none of this filth deserves any part of America, save perhaps 6 feet or so of it, more or less depending on how tall they are. Even then, I'd recommend dumping in the ocean to feed the crabs...

Blogger Oswald December 02, 2020 3:26 PM  

If Trump pulls this off, he is either a hero or an antichrist, depending how it ends. I voted for him twice, so hopefully he is a hero!

Blogger Beto December 02, 2020 3:27 PM  

Trump = King
Powell = Queen
Giuliani = Rook
Lin Wood = Priest
Ellis = Knight
The Deplorable = Pawn

CHECKMATE BITCHES!!

Blogger xevious2030 December 02, 2020 3:29 PM  

"there will be no "temporary" suspension of the Constitution"

Do not presume others share your limitations. By definition, the best, don't. Time on that scale is a matter of presentation, not necessary occurrence. China did not invent social networking and association, with counterterrorism application, software. A recent changeup related to counterterrorism was in the news. With the mapping of threat networks being something of a very basic and obvious step.

A suspended Constitution, with mapping and tracking a go, would provide that mop-up would not be time intensive, even given the numbers involved. Even then, for the broader numbers, it becomes a manhunt with simple warrants, once the shills are cleared out of the way of issuance, not a long term suspension of Constitution issue.

The city-states, that is another issue, different methods.

Blogger Salt December 02, 2020 3:32 PM  

Learned something today. The boat Washington used to cross the Delaware was called a Durham boat.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast December 02, 2020 3:35 PM  

I hope you saw this. Lin Wood was especially on fire
https://youtu.be/Vs1r_eXuspM

Blogger brbrophy December 02, 2020 3:37 PM  

All Trump needs for martial law is the support of civilian law enforcement. Who has more support from civilian law enforcement than Trump?

Blogger xevious2030 December 02, 2020 3:38 PM  

"Martial law is horrible backup to the backup plan."

Loosing to globohomoinfanticiders is worse.

Blogger xevious2030 December 02, 2020 3:43 PM  

"that the Fake News prematurely called for Biden assigns its electors to Trump, they will" say Trump is trying to overthrow what they call the legitimate election of Biden. They are liars. What matters is the sound of their being crushed underfoot. As they are replaced by those of our voice.

Blogger Cinqueports December 02, 2020 3:52 PM  

@50:
Personally, my favorite civil war is the War of the Roses. It has the distinction of having disproportionately killed elites rather than large chunks of the general population; who were more or less allowed to go on tilling planting and reaping while the gentry slaughtered one another.

Blogger Jeff aka Orville December 02, 2020 3:53 PM  

@59 Martial law is horrible backup to the backup plan.

Sez you and nobody else here. It is the only effective solution.

Blogger Rick December 02, 2020 3:54 PM  

Not if everyone does as their told. Very easy.

Blogger Jake December 02, 2020 3:54 PM  

What a time to be alive!
Great speech today by Lin Wood and Sydney Powell in Georgia.

Blogger Brick Hardslab December 02, 2020 4:02 PM  

He'd have the trigger pullers on his side but can he overcome his idealism about America. It's not what he wishes it to be. Can he shift that far?

Blogger Clint December 02, 2020 4:02 PM  

It's FB, but here is the President, giving an update.
https://www.facebook.com/DonaldTrump/videos/376615900112093

Blogger Mr.MantraMan December 02, 2020 4:09 PM  

Brain Juice Cerno says martial law would be morally indefensible.

He also informed us today that the GA Republican voters are in full rebellion against the GOP and that the GOP just lost the senate today.

But to tie it all together what does voting in GA matter anyway? I think the brain juice was just drano, just my guess.

Blogger Jehu December 02, 2020 4:10 PM  

Full martial law is the only real solution. The media, the FBI the CIA Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc all need to be destroyed, along with the universities, K-12 education system, most of the Democratic party, and about half of the Republican party. Frankly I think a Trump monarchy would suck far less than what we have now with a Uniparty. I'd have about the same actual say, but the leadership would hate me far less.

Blogger Jack Amok December 02, 2020 4:12 PM  

you think that would satisfy them? To rule themselves? They already have that. They want to rule YOU, to steal YOUR resources. They have zero interest in what you propose, they will not break off the engagement until its all theirs. The breakup of the USA in 2033 predicted by our host, IMO of course, is temporary. What follows is consolidation, and the dirtiest fighter wins.

Exactly. Everybody who thinks partition is the answer hasn't thought sufficiently deeply about what it would be like living next to a bluetopian third world shithole. It's exactly what Azimus says here - they aren't satisfied ruling themselves, they want to rule us.

Every attempt right-wing Americans have made to move away from leftists has resulting in the leftists following as quickly as they could. "Partition" would be no different.

Victory or defeat. Retreat has proven useless.

Blogger Noah B. December 02, 2020 4:15 PM  

Election fraud on this scale is already a de facto suspension of the Constitution, almost certainly a permanent one if this theft were allowed to continue.

Blogger D. December 02, 2020 4:15 PM  

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
Statement by Donald J. Trump, The President of the United States

Full Video: https://fb.watch/27KawkLq3E/

This claim about election fraud is disputed
3:56 PM · Dec 2, 2020·Twitter for iPhone

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1334240039639937026

Blogger Meng Greenleaf December 02, 2020 4:18 PM  

Jack Tanner wrote:Ar this point, the country needs to be split up into two or three autonomous provinces.That would be the best option for a regroup and recuperate before aligning with one, and launching war against one of the other two, and then turning on the ally.

IMO Americans will not tolerate three or two or five mini-States. While it might be true that historically this is what often happens, I don't think it will happen in the USA. What also happens is mass deportations. This is the solution.

Blogger OMGDwayne December 02, 2020 4:18 PM  

Well, martial law has always been my preference from the start. I was talking to a like-minded, right-wing relative before the election and we had both come to the conclusion that a Franco-style, right-wing coup was a thing to be hoped for. That, or Trump declaring martial law, would be a good start since we have no hope at all of voting our way out of Leftist tyranny or taking it to the largely clueless or (((traitorous))) judiciary. Our system is now permeated with Leftist tyranny from top to bottom. This is intolerable to Whites who are in touch with any kind of reality. It has to end now.

So, what would the morning after look like after an exciting night of declaring martial law? Many of the states would declare their own counter-version in opposition to the federal version. Many of our lively, vibrant military and police would be in immediate opposition to their more competent (and still more numerous) White brethren. Many high-ranking White cucks would curl up under a blanket and begin gently weeping. Many Leftist (((gargoyles))) would begin screaming and howling and inciting violent resistance.

Obviously there would be battles for local control all over the U.S. I'm sure California would immediately lapse into complete chaos. Other places would be a bit more orderly about it, but, as an example, Atlanta, Georgia would have a full chimp-out with no one immediately on the ground to put that down. It wouldn't take long IMHO, but immense damage would still be done.

I'm extremely optimistic though. What a fine time for us to start taking it all back. The provocation is stark and insultingly obvious. Talk about our finest hour. That has to be right now.

Blogger Taignobias December 02, 2020 4:27 PM  

@59 "Martial law is horrible backup to the backup plan."

Well, it is a terrible thing to admit that we need dictatorial authority to drive out the enemies of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Far worse, though, to surrender completely to the promethean menace that has been so destructive thus far.

Blogger The Lab Manager December 02, 2020 4:28 PM  

Speaking of the signature angle, even the metrosexual communist and chief acknowledged the importance of signatures.

"Back in 2008, Barack Obama argued that mail-in ballots can only be trusted if the signatures are verified.
Barack Obama: Well, I think we have to figure out whether this is fraud proof. I mean, Oregon has a terrific mail-in system but they’ve already scanned everyone’ signature whose registered to vote so that they can check to make sure that in fact the right people are voting."
https://www.rightjournalism.com/video-obama-says-mail-in-ballots-can-only-be-trusted-if-the-signatures-are-verified/

Blogger stevev December 02, 2020 4:34 PM  

Crikes, I know this is a totally lame question, but I need educating:
Is invoking Insurrection clause(?) and declaring Martial Law spelled out procedurally anywhere?
What's to stop SCOTUS from jumping in with both feet, since the public thinks they're the last resort, and countermanding any such attempt by POTUS?

Blogger Cinqueports December 02, 2020 4:36 PM  

With the admitted disadvantage of being a lawyer, I still think SCOTUS is Plan A. And I have no doubt that Trump has Plans B-D in case.
My reasoning: There is a constitutional mechanism for SCOTUS enjoining the certification of electors in key states and putting the election of President into the House where Trump wins (and VP in the Senate where Pence wins). What we are seeing (e.g., Flynn and others suggesting that he invoke the Insurrection Act and suspend habeas corpus) is a warning to SCOTUS that if they don't properly exercise constitutional order he is ready willing and able to initiate a constitutional crisis.
In my experience judges generally operate on the principle of the lesser of evils (and personal unpopularity is the greatest evil they wish to avoid). Few judges have real courage - they're screened for it (there are notable exceptions - Justice Thomas being a fine example). Their default position would be to allow Biden to be fraudulently elected rather than step up to the plate and force a contingent election that has not been used since 1824 (in the case of President) and 1836 (in the case of the Vice President). Trump is sending a big message to SCOTUS: Clean this up or I will.
At a secondary level, Biden has all but promised to pack SCOTUS. That is a personal evil that at least five Justices wish to avoid. It may just be enough to persuade Gorsuch.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 02, 2020 4:47 PM  

OMGDwayne wrote:Many of the states would declare their own counter-version in opposition to the federal version.
Alaska's government will ask what keeps the federal bucks flowing into the state, and will take that path.
Alaskans will support whatever side Trump takes.
None of that will really matter, because we'll all just be watching the show from 1,000 miles away.

Blogger Clint December 02, 2020 4:48 PM  

Here are the last 20 seconds of Trump's speech. The Rubicon is in sight.
"...if we do not root out the fraud.... we do not have a country anymore. So with the resolve and support of the American people, we will restore honesty and integrity to our elections. And we restore trust in our system of government. Thank you. God Bless you, and God Bless America."

Blogger Other Josh December 02, 2020 4:49 PM  

Martial law is not a horrible plan. Dictatorial exercise of power is necessary at times like this to drive out the absolute evil that has come to exist. From George Soros, to the involved politicians and bureaucrats, to media lackeys like Don Lemon and Stephen Colbert. Dammit, they all need to go. Expunged from this earth like a cancer from the human body. All servants of satan, every one of them. Every one of them took the ticket. In actuality, it's thousands of people. Get rid of the leaders in such a decisive way (death), the rest scatter and fear.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 02, 2020 4:49 PM  

D. wrote:Statement by Donald J. Trump, The President of the United States
Anybody have a 100 word abstract for the bandwidth impaired?

Blogger MidnightSun December 02, 2020 4:50 PM  

I think the moment when most people, myself anyway, woke up to the systemic evil was the Empire State Building was lit in pink to celebrate abortion up and until after birth and even then if the infant survived to let it die by starvation and neglect. Shocking, just horrifying. I have no sympathy for these (mostly) evil boomer women who cheered when the decision was read aloud at the New York State House! They are literally demons and no punishment is too cruel for them. May they burn in hell for all eternity!
Also what kind of person can just stand there and watch a baby die? I imagine it would take a couple days. It is nothing less than murder. How can a doctor sworn to do no harm be complicit in this? God only knows the horrors that take place at these clinics. Even animals in the jungle tend to their newborns. This is pure evil. Never did I think I would see a day like this. Never. String them all up! and their progeny!

Onward Christian Soldiers!

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot December 02, 2020 4:53 PM  


Meng Greenleaf wrote:That would be the best option for a regroup and recuperate before aligning with one, and launching war against one of the other two, and then turning on the ally.


So your real name is Hannegan II of Texark.

Blogger Captain Barnacles December 02, 2020 4:55 PM  

“Even if PA is overturned, that still leaves Biden with over 270. Are there any other states where a reversal is legally still in play?l

Wouldn’t it be likely that once one state is liberated, others will fall in a chain reaction?
Once some of less dedicated cucks see the writing on the wall, they will flip.

Thanks to Vox for bringing me down to Earth about the court. It’s one of the outcomes that ensure bloodshed is at a minimum.

I hope the court dues the right thing. Glad to know everything doesn’t hinge on them, though.

Blogger SecondComingOfBast December 02, 2020 4:56 PM  

Unfortunately, those of us without Facebook can't see it without naking a Facebook account and I've left those days far behind. Luckily, you can see the same thing on Gab.

Blogger Silly but True December 02, 2020 5:05 PM  

No. With Swalwell already itching to nuke an American red state city, that would be leaving them to become a nation of sneak-attacking antifa — we’d make them into Battlestar Galactica’s cylons: doing nothing but sit around figuring how to alpha strike all the trump voters they can in the middle of night.

You don’t move a bloodsucking tick to another part of your body. You squash it.

Blogger Bezzle December 02, 2020 5:22 PM  

@25. doctrev December 02, 2020 1:48 PM
Honestly, the Dems have made martial law such an inviting option for President Trump....

--Yes, far too inviting. It's almost as if BLM and Antifa (both obvious rogue intel ops operating under useful-idiot cover) were crafted explicitly for that purpose.

I'm personally astonished that he hasn't done it yet.

--How it must drive them to conniptions that he does not rise to take their eagerly dangled and swished bait. He's like a giant lunker muskie, unperturbed and inscrutable.

It's a battlefield overwhelmingly shaped for him to win, and most of it by the catastrophic mistakes of his enemies (like "defund the police").

--Those weren't "mistakes"; they're deliberately-implemented initiatives seeking exactly the outcome that you clamor for. When you want what your enemy wants you to want, your appraisal of the situation is blown.

@26. Unknown December 02, 2020 1:48 PM
I'm quite sure Gen. Flynn knows full-well there will be no "temporary" suspension of the Constitution

--Hold that thought.

29. Cyrus Tyr December 02, 2020 1:49 PM
I am not only praying for President Trump, his family, and this country (the real America) as well as donating to his legal fund and writing the President, by showing my support for any action he deems necessary to defend this country, her people and the Constitution. #StoptheSteal #CrosstheRubicon

--What Constitution? The just-suspended one, where one's precious 2A went flying out the window?

@63. xevious2030 December 02, 2020 3:29 PM
A suspended Constitution, with mapping and tracking a go, would provide that mop-up would not be time intensive, even given the numbers involved. Even then, for the broader numbers, it becomes a manhunt with simple warrants...

--Ah, that Constitution, so unnecessary and inconvenient to the shoving of phalanxes of flawlessly-painted WH40K minis across the terrain table, where victory is assured when the dice are hot!

In the grim darkness of the far future, there is only LARPing.

@67. xevious2030 December 02, 2020 3:38 PM
"Martial law is horrible backup to the backup plan."
Loosing to globohomoinfanticiders is worse.

--And frogmarching into roaring volcanic vents is awful, too, I have heard. Fortunately, we are not restricted to only these scenarios.

Should it become necessary, the Insurrection Act will be invoked from *within* the framework of a not-suspended Constitution, and subject to Article 1, Section 9.

Blogger Crew December 02, 2020 5:28 PM  

The Outlaw Josey Wales has advice for President Trump!

Now remember, when things look bad and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb, mad-dog mean. 'Cause if you lose your head and you give up then you neither live nor win. That's just the way it is.

Blogger Frankfurt Bear December 02, 2020 5:35 PM  

The Justice Department has created new regulations last week allowing for the use of more methods for federal executions, including firing squad. Just coincidence?

Blogger D. December 02, 2020 5:55 PM  

Donald Trump Statement on Election 12-2-20

https://www.bitchute.com/video/8Ln42VJhE8t5/

Blogger VD December 02, 2020 5:58 PM  

VD, which one of the 3 do you think is gonna happen?

I think he's going to have to rely upon himself, which means Door #3. The other plans rely too much on too many weak men deciding to do the right thing.

Blogger Avalanche December 02, 2020 6:06 PM  

@19 "Lin Wood and Sidney Powell will be giving a presser at 2:05 EST"

That damned grifter Wood ACTUALLY recommends no one voting in the run-off, and said if he'd know how bad Kemp would be, he would have voted for Stacy Abrams!!! I'm deeply disturbed that Powell, too, said we should not vote in the run-off if they won't do that audit. How is that NOT Playing directly into the Dems hands? If they HOLD the run-off, and Repubs don't vote -- then the Dems win regardless...

If they hold the run-off and the Nationalists get out there armed and observing: stand up, stand close! MAYBE -- if it hasn't been cleared up by January -- that will have an effect?

Blogger Hammerli 280 December 02, 2020 6:07 PM  

I've thought for a decade that a coup, followed by an interim Regency, might be the only path out. The problem is that it MUST be a Regency...a temporary government whose leaders understand that they've got two or three years and then they are done. Proscribed persons, if they are lucky. Exiled, quite probably.

Blogger RandyB December 02, 2020 6:14 PM  

@Other Josh

It's hundreds of thousands of people, if not millions. It's most, likely all, of the 1% in the U. S., and their global counterparts. They're all knowingly guilty.

Blogger Avalanche December 02, 2020 6:15 PM  

@41 "For such Lowlife and Vermin, the Rope is better. Or Lead. Or the Needle... or whatever else that rids of them."

How fortuitous, then, that our beloved God Emperor has recently reinstated firing squad, hanging, gas, and electrocution. BRAVO!

Blogger Mephiston Lord of Death December 02, 2020 6:21 PM  

Why would you let them enter?

Blogger Doktor Jeep December 02, 2020 6:27 PM  

Ring Wraiths and cuckpublicans....

Yeah it's going to be Rubicon.

Blogger Reader December 02, 2020 6:37 PM  

@100 The other plans rely too much on too many weak men deciding to do the right thing.

These would be weak men borne of good times. Their weakness is going to usher in hard times. There is no more avoiding this consequence than avoiding gravity. The consolation here is that the hard times will crush the weak bastards, and create strong men.

Blogger Gianna December 02, 2020 6:44 PM  

@90
"I think the moment when most people, myself anyway, woke up to the systemic evil was the Empire State Building was lit in pink to celebrate abortion up and until after birth and even then if the infant survived to let it die by starvation and neglect. Shocking, just horrifying."

^^^ This was evil like no other I have been witness to and I too will never forget that day. As soon as I got home I learned how to pray the rosary and have done my best to pray it every day since. We cannot survive as a country with such evil celebrated. It has to be crushed.

Blogger Tom Bombadil December 02, 2020 6:46 PM  

There has to be some move to gain wider support.

There’s many millions of people who would interpret martial law as Trump turning into a tyrannical dictator. Based on their sources of information they would be correct to see it that way.

Maybe seize control of the media and start running hearings 24/7. They would still interpret it as tyranny and show trials, but if the truth is brought to light it will always win out over lies. Eventually most people will recognize what is really going on and then we won’t be hopelessly divided.

If you’re old enough you might remember after 9/11 they were running news 24/7 on all the networks, with no commercials. This was a government sponsored move. So there’s a precedent, although no doubt this time around the media would not cooperate willingly.

If the situation really warrants strong measures, then this would be the way to go, otherwise we are divided and dissolve into chaos. The whole problem really is about control of information, that is how we have become so divided.

Blogger FUBARwest December 02, 2020 7:15 PM  

It would be better that the Republicans responsible for the shit show in Georgia right now get punished and don't get away with their lack of support for Trump. Not all the enemies are democrats and it might be better to get rid of the traitors in the camp.

Most likely this is them applying pressure onto the senators to step up and do their job.

Blogger tuberman December 02, 2020 7:23 PM  

>> There’s many millions of people who would interpret martial law as Trump turning into a tyrannical dictator. Based on their sources of information they would be correct to see it that way.

Yeah so??^^^

Tell us what you think?

Blogger Beloved December 02, 2020 8:10 PM  

2 Chronicles 7:14

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

God allowed the USA to become the way it has because our people turned away from Him.

This can end anytime YOU want it to. Humble yourself, repent, and turn from your wicked ways. To men, saving America may not be possible. With God all things are possible.

Blogger Hammerli 280 December 02, 2020 8:11 PM  

@108: That would be my approach. Especially if Trump tied it in with the Seditious Conspiracy.

Having said that, I regret to say that I do not expect Trump to cross the Rubicon. I expect he'll fight in the courts, but no further. He's HAD chances to act forcefully before this, and has not done so.

Blogger blouis79 December 02, 2020 8:12 PM  

Marshall law should be better than civil war. Its a stake in the ground to try to prevent violent protest.

Blogger VD December 02, 2020 8:15 PM  

He's HAD chances to act forcefully before this, and has not done so.

Which, no doubt, is why his enemies don't expect him to do so now.

Blogger doctrev December 02, 2020 8:24 PM  

VD wrote:

Which, no doubt, is why his enemies don't expect him to do so now.


"A short time later, the Eastern Hu returned and said: ‘You have a thousand li of unused land which we want.’ Mo Tun consulted his advisers. Some said it would be reasonable to cede the land, others that it would not."

Blogger Redbeard December 02, 2020 8:24 PM  

Martial law or not, the constitution doesn't give you rights, your Creator does which are unalienable.

Blogger Crew December 02, 2020 8:38 PM  

@112: He has to be seen to be exhausting all the alternatives.

I expect him to cross the Rubicon and will pledge allegiance to the GE Trump!

Blogger Mihai Nichita December 02, 2020 8:44 PM  

Of course that will matter. You will still have to deal with Canada. Yes, I know, a country of cucks but still..
Maybe Putin will have your back if things go rough.

Blogger jarheadljh December 02, 2020 8:50 PM  

>> There’s many millions of people who would interpret martial law as Trump turning into a tyrannical dictator.

And they will see him that way no matter what however he wins. They are dead weight.

We all know that the Insurrection Act is going to be invoked sooner or later. Later if in response to Antifa, or sooner if SCOTUS and the state legislatures fail. Assuming the Frankfurt server is real I can only assume that the reason we haven't seen it or heard Trump mention it is that it is not time yet. We've heard testimony about the machines calling home to Frankfurt, we've seen photos of wifi routers and laptops clearly displaying a working network connection in buildings that were not supposed to be internet capable at the time in question. There's video of a Dominion employee palming a flash drive. There's video of GA election equipment being hauled away to be shredded. My guess is that there is a massive infodump on Dominion coming as early as Friday. Potentially that will result in a push that gets all totals using Dominion machines thrown out, which leaves forensic recounts in something like thirty states.

Blogger Karen took the Kids December 02, 2020 9:58 PM  

Flynn rhymes with win. End ex

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 03, 2020 3:57 AM  

@42 Yes. All of this. Succinctly put.

Blogger Duke Norfolk December 03, 2020 4:27 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:D. wrote:Statement by Donald J. Trump, The President of the United States

Anybody have a 100 word abstract for the bandwidth impaired?


If you're still looking, CTH has a transcript at this post:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/12/02/president-trump-national-address-on-the-election-the-most-important-speech-i-ever-made-full-video-and-transcript/

Blogger Azure Amaranthine December 03, 2020 4:41 AM  

"Exactly. Everybody who thinks partition is the answer hasn't thought sufficiently deeply about what it would be like living next to a bluetopian third world shithole."

Partitioning isn't the answer, but balkanization is the inevitability.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd December 03, 2020 11:14 AM  

Azure Amaranthine wrote:
Partitioning isn't the answer, but balkanization is the inevitability.

As I said above, we are already balkanized into 50 divisions. If the 50 states purge their own undesirables according to their own standards, they could get along profitably and peacefully in a loose union that doesn't meddle in their internal affairs, as the founding fathers intended.

The latest election shows us that even in California the majority aren't voting for the poz. Even the leftist hellholes will turn out to be Right, or at least right enough, once the globohomo imperium is deposed.

Once we have destroyed the imperial deep state, things could get very peaceful indeed.

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