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Saturday, January 09, 2021

Fire Firefox

I switched from Firefox to Brave long ago. If you haven't stopped using Firefox yet, it's time to do so, because Mozilla has gone beyond mere SJW convergence to full sociofascist superconvergence:

Mozilla, developer of the Firefox internet browser, has argued that more must be done to keep Donald Trump and other “bad actors” out of cyberspace, prompting many to vow to never use the group’s services again.

In a blog post titled ‘We need more than deplatforming’, the open-source software community said that Twitter’s decision to permanently ban Trump from its platform didn’t go far enough in weeding out “hate” on the internet. While blaming Trump for the “siege and take-over” of the US Capitol on January 6, the non-profit tech group argued that “white supremacy is about more than any one personality.”

“We need solutions that don’t start after untold damage has been done. Changing these dangerous dynamics requires more than just the temporary silencing or permanent removal of bad actors from social media platforms,” Mozilla wrote.

The group proposed a number of measures to help protect the internet from verboten views. Internet ads should list who paid for them, how much they are paying, and who is being targeted, Mozilla said. There should also be “meaningful transparency” of platform algorithms so that people can examine what kind of content is being promoted. 

The group also demanded that “tools to amplify factual voices over disinformation” are added to the default settings of internet platforms, and said that independent research must be carried out to determine how social media is affecting society and what can be done to “improve things.”

The blog post concluded by stating that the answer to Trump and other allegedly bad voices was not to “do away with the internet,” but rather to “build a better one” that can “withstand” such “challenges.”

Stop supporting those who hate you. More importantly, stop relying upon them. 


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180 Comments:

Blogger Dole January 09, 2021 11:51 AM  

Fired that demonic fox a long time ago.

Anonymous Anonymous January 09, 2021 11:52 AM  

I was just trying to log in to gab and it wouldn't even bother loading on Firefox browser. I'm definitely moving everything

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 09, 2021 11:52 AM  

Telling people that 13 percent of the population commits 52:percent of the homicides and that a man cannot be turned into a woman is "untold damage".
These people are fun to tweak though.

Blogger Stephen Davenport January 09, 2021 11:53 AM  

They are going full Bolshevik and they were not even forced to do it like those over in the Soviet Union and the Chinese Red Guards.

Blogger Wayne January 09, 2021 11:54 AM  

I wiped my devices clean of Firefox when they forced Brandon Eich out of the company over his support of CA Prop 8.

Blogger d January 09, 2021 11:56 AM  

Those who insist Bruce Jenner is a woman pose as the arbiters of reality. Aborting these progressive degenerates would be, in their lingo, a mercy killing.

Blogger Hammer January 09, 2021 11:56 AM  

I never understood why did these reddit smart boys from the privacy communities push Mozilla so hard, arguing that "Brave is invasive because it's Chromium, use Firefox", "never use Chromium", "never use Brave". I understood why when Mozilla cucked to BLM in July 2020, and now it is all clear beyond doubt. Use Brave and ignore the shills pretending to be all for "privacy and security".

Blogger Nostromo January 09, 2021 11:58 AM  

Moved to Brave from Firefox a few years ago. Ised to be loyal Mozilla person. Glad I left. Gonna join Gab in a day or two after their traffic settles down.

Blogger MATT January 09, 2021 11:59 AM  

Wow, just downloaded Brave for android. Its incredibly fast

Blogger Joeplanet January 09, 2021 11:59 AM  

I haven’t used firefox since our host and the rest of the Ilk walked away from it many moons ago.

Blogger MATT January 09, 2021 11:59 AM  

Wow, just downloaded Brave for android. Its incredibly fast.

Blogger Matt January 09, 2021 11:59 AM  

Today I deleted my Facebook account and cancelled my Amazon Prime membership.
Cancelled my Netflix and cable subscription years ago and haven't looked back.

I really want to switch off of using gmail as well, any suggestions?

Blogger Teleros January 09, 2021 12:00 PM  

Been using Brave for some time now, very pleased with it, especially as they have their sync feature working again. Got Tor and Dissenter (the Gab fork of Brave) around just in case too.

Blogger Warunicorn January 09, 2021 12:02 PM  

"I'm not the Nazi! YOU'RE THE NAZI!" they cry as they silence dissenting voices.

I have to say I'm slightly bemused by all their self-righteous posturing. It's still not going to save them once SHTF though.

Anonymous Anonymous January 09, 2021 12:04 PM  

Isn’t there a prophecy about those who kill you believing they’re doing God’s work?

These madmen sound like that.

Blogger Charlie January 09, 2021 12:07 PM  

I ad no idea about mozilla. Thanks.

Blogger Newscaper312 January 09, 2021 12:10 PM  

Brave, at least on default settings, degrades this page, even breaks parts.I

Anyone have tips?

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2021 12:10 PM  

I just switched to Brave upon reading this. I used Brave a few years ago but found it was slow. I downloaded it again last year and found that it had been improved.

Blogger bramley say Enoch woz right January 09, 2021 12:11 PM  

Firefox has one killer feature that keeps me using it: container tabs. So useful for fencing in the tracker creeps. Have been waiting for Brave or another well-maintained browser to get something similar.

Blogger Zastavnik Džemo January 09, 2021 12:13 PM  

Russians also have a browser: https://browser.yandex.com/

I know, I know, Russians...
But at least Putin does not care you are a crimethinker.

Blogger PeopleMakerBear January 09, 2021 12:13 PM  

So I just grabbed Brave, anyone have a suggestion for which search engine to use in the list they provide? Obviously, not google, bing, or yahoo but of the remaining; DuckDuckGo, Qwant or Startpage which is the best to use here?

Blogger SonyAD January 09, 2021 12:14 PM  

Already done hours ago, after I came across the news story on RT. I took care to also delete my Firefox account as well.

Blogger waterdragon1657 January 09, 2021 12:15 PM  

They just can't help themselves, can they?

Blogger Dale Quickness January 09, 2021 12:15 PM  

Thank you. I downloaded Brave a while back but was still using Chrome out of convenience. I'm done. Commenting from the latest version of Brave.

Blogger Dale Quickness January 09, 2021 12:15 PM  

Thanks. Commenting from latest version of brave.

Blogger Eduardo January 09, 2021 12:19 PM  

FireWho?

Blogger Viking January 09, 2021 12:20 PM  

Brave works well. Been using it for some time now.

Blogger Avalanche January 09, 2021 12:22 PM  

Will comply. This very minute.

Blogger michimartini January 09, 2021 12:28 PM  

I was so utterly disgusted when they ousted Brendan Eich that I never used FF again. To keep using FF then would have felt like deep betrayal.

Blogger Darren January 09, 2021 12:28 PM  

When selecting a web browser to trust (and support, which is our present weird reality), it should be required to consider that recent converged vomit willfully published by Mozilla compared to what Andrew Torba has been saying on his newly-reawakened twitter.com/GetOnGab ("10,000+ new Gab users every hour...") -- especially where he listed all the multitude of products that Team Gab has "Build your own X"*** in the spirit of American rebel spirit and industriousness. The choice ain't even close.

Plus, unlike the divisive alienating SJWs, Torba embraces as large a customer base as possible AND he has a genius sense of humor: "To the people whining about us turning off replies to tweets: it’s called marketing genius. In order to respond you have to quote tweet and promote what we are saying to your followers."

*** multitude of products = https://twitter.com/getongab/status/1347775138515730434 ... but his entire timeline is on fire right now. And he gives all credit to Christ Jesus too.

Blogger NoobishTitan January 09, 2021 12:31 PM  

Brave is a great browser

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 09, 2021 12:34 PM  

Mozilla yesterday: What, we're not deplatforming anyone; that's been debunked. Stop with the crazy conspiracy theories.
Mozilla today: Deplatforming isn't enough.

Blogger James January 09, 2021 12:36 PM  

I tell people about this but no one seems to have a reply:
-- Brave whitelists twitter & facebook trackers
-- Brave was started under questionable circumstances (donating $1k against gay marriage?)

I guess if you can picture Eich being who he says he is, then Brave is trustworthy - but I can't.

I use ungoogled-chromium

Blogger binks webelf January 09, 2021 12:36 PM  

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Anonymous Anonymous January 09, 2021 12:37 PM  

I'm disappointed at this, but at least Torba has created Dissenter (https://dissenter.com/). It's CIA Chrome based with all the spook guts ripped out.

Meanwhile Windows is trying to force Google integration, which is even more troubling. Linux will go the way of Firefox, as this proves, and MAC is no solution.

Blogger SC Rebel January 09, 2021 12:37 PM  

I did the same. I realized that the Firefox claims about privacy were marketing BS. That on top of their SJW nonsense.

Been using Brave browser and Swiss Cows search engine for 2 years now.

Blogger pussard January 09, 2021 12:37 PM  

What alternatives are recommended for email, cloud storage, or others? I would love to ween myself of the Google.

Blogger MegaBusterShepard January 09, 2021 12:39 PM  

Solidly a DuckDuckGo guy myself currently.

Blogger Wanderer January 09, 2021 12:39 PM  

On the other hand, we can thank Firefox for revealing to us what the future plans for the internet will be in the coming year. Personally, I'm surprised at the restraint, as I fully expect the leftist converged tech companies to be using all their spyware to be building up a database of dissidents to round up have "reeducated" just like their CCP masters already do.

Blogger A.D. January 09, 2021 12:40 PM  

Apparently the Trump campaign has been suspended by his mail service provider, effectively completely cutting him off from his supporters. These pure-evil GlobeHomo demons are going all-in.

Blogger Opus January 09, 2021 12:41 PM  

I am just not tech savvy (too old to learn new tricks - don't understand the jargon) but because of what happened to Brendon Eich I made Brave my browser - unfortunately, with the rewards which
I just did not understand I could never figure out what exactly I had to do. Firefox I do not like but it loads YouTube so much faster than Microsoft Edge, and so...back to Edge, but I am not happy about this. Most days I want to throw my laptop across the room.

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2021 12:44 PM  

I just switched to Brave upon reading this. I tried it about 4 years ago and found it too slow. It has definitely been improved since then. I'll switch to Brave on all of my laptops.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan January 09, 2021 12:47 PM  

Brave worked great on my slow Mac till about a year ago then the CPU spikes on some pages and the user experience plummeted, but I use it as much as possible such as on VP.

Blogger Beloved January 09, 2021 12:50 PM  

When they say "hate" they mean "you". Because they hate you.

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2021 12:53 PM  

I've used Brave with DuckDuckGo for a year with no problems.

Blogger Jon D. January 09, 2021 12:54 PM  

I didn't know Firefox still existed. I love Brave and have used it forever but there's still some sites which are glitchy and I need to open up Chrome or something to make them work.

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 09, 2021 12:57 PM  

Also on the horizon: smart phones running Linux instead of android. I have one incoming but it's going to be more of a "cyber jack". A full handheld computer that I can remotely log into can be uh... Useful..

Blogger Zundfolge January 09, 2021 1:00 PM  

"I really want to switch off of using gmail as well, any suggestions?"

I've been using ProtonMail for some time now, it works real well (and its encrypted and not hosted in a 5 Eyes country). There is a free version of it (if you don't need lots of filtering or folders or what-not) but the pay one is cheap.

Blogger OVB January 09, 2021 1:02 PM  

What are the best email alternatives to gmail?

Blogger Werekoala January 09, 2021 1:03 PM  

Still using Firefox at the moment but that's because I haven't had time to tweak all my Brave settings yet, but it's installed.

Blogger Dex January 09, 2021 1:04 PM  

I downloaded brave and went to add extensions and it sent me to Google Chromes webstore.

Blogger JOE January 09, 2021 1:05 PM  

Just a reminder to those using Brave, don't blindly trust browser extensions. No matter how secure the browser, those are behind the DMZ, and may have permissions to read your browsing history, among other things.

Blogger Steghorn21 January 09, 2021 1:06 PM  

29. Michimartini. That's what made me ditch FF too. Mind you, Eich should have stood his ground and told them to drop dead.

Blogger MATT January 09, 2021 1:06 PM  

"On the other hand, we can thank Firefox for revealing to us what the future plans for the internet will be in the coming year. Personally, I'm surprised at the restraint, as I fully expect the leftist converged tech companies to be using all their spyware to be building up a database of dissidents to round up have "reeducated" just like their CCP masters already do. "

They can only do so much while tweaking their own nipples

Blogger Canada78Bear January 09, 2021 1:08 PM  

Not smart people there. IMHO that list tells you who to buy from.
If I didn't already have My Pillows I would have bought them by now.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 1:11 PM  

This is sad. Two decades years ago I was technical lead at Netscape Server products.

They were good people, and brilliant. Brandon, Jamie and Erich are gone now, time to stop living in the past...

Firefox has now been fired from every computer I have influence over.

Blogger liberranter January 09, 2021 1:15 PM  

I've already switched to Brave for my Android devices. Sadly, Brave doesn't appear to support Linux yet.

Blogger Avalon John January 09, 2021 1:15 PM  

FF is gone, brave installed. Anyone have any feedback on Epic browser? They claim a built in VPN and to be the only truly private browser...

Blogger Wayne January 09, 2021 1:16 PM  

ProtonMail

Blogger Out of Nod January 09, 2021 1:20 PM  

Gab is going through growing pains right now. So many people joining all at once has put a lot of strain on their resources. It has nothing to do with Firefox.

Blogger Fellow Traveler January 09, 2021 1:22 PM  

I learned about Brave right here, when VD advertised him shortly after Eich got disappeared by Mozilla. Haven't looked back. I love Brave, even the in the BC (Before Chromium) days. It's my daily driver. I understand Palemoon is also a fine choice but I have no experience with it.

Blogger Kingly Gift January 09, 2021 1:24 PM  

Just switched. Thanks for the heads up.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 1:27 PM  

James wrote:I guess if you can picture Eich being who he says he is, then Brave is trustworthy - but I can't.
Brendan Eich is almost pathologically honest and fully trustworthy.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 09, 2021 1:30 PM  

Kind of sad to dump firefox. I was using it when it was Seamonkey. Oh, well, Brave already seems to suck less.

Blogger Rick January 09, 2021 1:30 PM  

Lord of the Firefox
What happens when all the grownups are dead.

Blogger BD January 09, 2021 1:31 PM  

This is why the 10 days of darkness are necessary. It takes time to smoke all of the traitors out. As much as I wanted the crooks to be arrested years ago, I now fully understand and appreciate the fact that the God Emperor could settle for nothing less than the full truth.

Now they're all revealing their true colour - the Bolshevik Crimson.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 09, 2021 1:32 PM  

"Personally, I'm surprised at the restraint"

It's not restraint, it's a mix of fear, incompetence, and dishonesty. They're already trying.

Blogger 7916 January 09, 2021 1:39 PM  

Will this affect Pale Moon?

Blogger Ken Prescott January 09, 2021 1:40 PM  

I never used Firefox because I am unable to think in Russian.

Blogger Bradley Ridnour January 09, 2021 1:45 PM  

liberranter wrote:I've already switched to Brave for my Android devices. Sadly, Brave doesn't appear to support Linux yet.
You may be happy to know that it does have Linux support (at least now it does).
Brave on Linux

Blogger C January 09, 2021 1:45 PM  

I torched Firefox a few years ago, simply on it being an unwieldy resource hog with a cluttered UI. I wonder why it's events and ideology and not utility that makes swaths of people reject tools and their makers.

Blogger James January 09, 2021 1:48 PM  

@Snidely Whiplash

Haha: "pathologically honest" that's a new one!

I notice you didn't actually contribute anything meanwhile it is easy to lookup the whitelisting & phoning home of Brave. Plus it is the obvious thing to create when everyone is trying to run mining software on other's browsers for free CPU time / crypto-mining.

Blogger FallofthaEmpire January 09, 2021 1:48 PM  

Fellow Traveler wrote:I learned about Brave right here, when VD advertised him shortly after Eich got disappeared by Mozilla. Haven't looked back. I love Brave, even the in the BC (Before Chromium) days. It's my daily driver. I understand Palemoon is also a fine choice but I have no experience with it.



I wonder how ready they are for all the new traffic.

Blogger Imwill January 09, 2021 1:48 PM  

No.
https://privacy-watchdog.io/truth-about-protonmail/

Blogger Eleven Oaks January 09, 2021 1:49 PM  

I tried to load Gab on Chrome browser and had trouble

Blogger Edjamacator January 09, 2021 1:54 PM  

Zastavnik Džemo wrote:Russians also have a browser: https://browser.yandex.com/
I know, I know, Russians...
But at least Putin does not care you are a crimethinker.


I actually downloaded it and am posting from it now. I'll see how it works. I've been using Vivaldi as my primary one for awhile now. I love the Speed Dial option where I can put pretty much unlimited sites on my new tab/home page. I only have Vox on what's called the "Tableau(?)" so I don't know how many it will hold yet.

For some reason, on my last computer, Brave would never update. Ever. Always gave me an error even when deleting, reinstalling, etc. It's fine on my phone, so maybe I'll give it another try since I have a new system now.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 1:56 PM  

If you are switching to a new browser, the Chrome-based browsers, including Chromium, Brave, Dissenter and the latest version of Edge, have a bookmark import function that will not only pull in the Firefox bookmarks, but saved accounts, passwords and saved form entries.
It can be accessed through this URI
chrome://settings/importData

Blogger MarkyMark January 09, 2021 1:58 PM  

I stopped using Firefox years ago. Why? Simply because it's a bloated, overweight POS! It hogs memory and runs slower than molasses in January! It's been years since Firefox was the lean and efficient browser we all knew and loved once upon a time. Oh, and notice how its decline in performance parallels the rise of SJWism at Mozilla? Is that a coincidence? I think not...

Blogger Kevin January 09, 2021 1:58 PM  

I run Brave on Ubuntu.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling January 09, 2021 2:00 PM  

@17 Newscaper312:

Brave, at least on default settings, degrades this page, even breaks parts.

Anyone have tips?


This is a Google web site (blogspot), so I figure there's little additional harm in running standard Chrome or Chromium. But just for blogspot commenting and a very few other things, Brave with the mighty but complicated shield of uMatrix is my daily driver.

@3 James:

I tell people about this but no one seems to have a reply:
-- Brave whitelists twitter & facebook trackers


You break a lot of things if you don't, there are a lot of no right answer tradeoffs in this domain. If you care, run a paranoid extension like uMatrix with paranoid settings, but note good blocking technology is being removed upstream by Google, search terms are "Manifest 3", and it's not clear how long these extensions will last without an audience to run them.

That was part of why uMatrix got "archived" on GitHub, no longer being developed by its owner (a bigger reason was tech support, you have to know a lot or be willing to learn a lot to use it well, but it's the best thing for all of these issues I know of). In general, it looks like we're in an age where respins of FOSS browsers like Chromium (almost everyone including Microsoft as well as Brave) and perhaps Firefox are the way to go.

IMHO Browsers have exceeded operating systems in difficultly, we're now down to one major base, Chromium, and two minor ones, Apple's and Firefox.

-- Brave was started under questionable circumstances (donating $1k against gay marriage?)

If you can't get past this fact, you're on the wrong side.

Blogger FallofthaEmpire January 09, 2021 2:00 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:If you are switching to a new browser, the Chrome-based browsers, including Chromium, Brave, Dissenter and the latest version of Edge, have a bookmark import function that will not only pull in the Firefox bookmarks, but saved accounts, passwords and saved form entries.

It can be accessed through this URI

chrome://settings/importData


Appreciate the tip, I was looking for this.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 09, 2021 2:01 PM  

Blackpillers have forgotten the most important element of war: morale.

My morale is high. Is yours?

Blogger RadixMalorum January 09, 2021 2:02 PM  

The ingrained notion of liberalism in the west needs to die first before any ground can be regained. In the meantime people will end up having to retreat further and further from lost ground as most of these new alternative institutions are all highly vulnerable to convergence. If people don't start taking back the institutions and stop playing paddy cakes with "principles" they'll find themselves in a digital ghetto as well as a real life one.

Blogger map January 09, 2021 2:02 PM  

James wrote:I tell people about this but no one seems to have a reply:

James, where are you seeing this in Brave?

Blogger RadixMalorum January 09, 2021 2:02 PM  

The ingrained notion of liberalism in the west needs to die first before any ground can be regained. In the meantime people will end up having to retreat further and further from lost ground as most of these new alternative institutions are all highly vulnerable to convergence. If people don't start taking back the institutions and stop playing paddy cakes with "principles" they'll find themselves in a digital ghetto as well as a real life one.

Blogger Hescominsoon January 09, 2021 2:06 PM  

Brave is based upon chromium...which is managed by Google...time to find something other than Firefox or brave.

Blogger Hescominsoon January 09, 2021 2:07 PM  

until this recent revelation of just exactly how fast they've become they've actually completely rewritten their engine and now it's actually much more memory efficient than chrome could ever hope to be. it may not be as fast as chrome but it's not the single threaded slower than molasses crap it used to be

Blogger Scott Alfter January 09, 2021 2:09 PM  

I had tried switching back to Firefox a month or two ago because Brave was acting strangely with some sites. (Among others, I can't comment here with Brave. Maybe it's the combination of add-ons I've installed.)

Anyway, I finally signed up for Unauthorized last night, but I had to switch to Brave (or was it Falkon?) to do it. The login page at Unauthorized doesn't work in Firefox. Clicking the buttons or textboxes does nothing. With whichever other browser I used, I was able to create an account, enter payment info, and sign in without issue.

I had originally quit Firefox years ago over their shoddy treatment of Brendan Eich. It's looking like maybe I should've stayed with the previous course.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling January 09, 2021 2:09 PM  

@72 James:

@Snidely Whiplash

Haha: "pathologically honest" that's a new one!

I notice you didn't actually contribute anything meanwhile it is easy to lookup the whitelisting & phoning home of Brave.


You're not paying close enough attention to your script, because this is the first time you've mentioned Brave phoning home. Which is required for a whole bunch of features a lot of people consider important, from updates, to crash reports and other telemetry necessary to maintain quality, to a smart search bar. All of which you can in theory turn off.

But since Eich is Right wing, I won't be able to convince you, and your revealing you're Left wing tells us how much trust to put into your comments and all out attack on Brave.

Blogger Eleven Oaks January 09, 2021 2:19 PM  

Has the Italian president been taken down? Chatter on the FB walls

Blogger Jeff Wood January 09, 2021 2:21 PM  

@77. Snidely is correct. I left Firefox at the time, for Pale Moon because at the time, Brave would not import my bookmarks and passwords. I have a fine collection for professional purposes.

I looked in on Brave every six months, and when they added an Import function - a very decent one - made the switch. I had the impression by then that Pale Moon was not what it was.

Blogger Johnny Blogger January 09, 2021 2:22 PM  

I'm in the process of getting 10 plus years of emails and files off of Gmail and g drive shortly when I'm done close down those accounts. I have a paid for protonmail account and I primarily use brave largely with a VPN switching it up to different countries but to get to the point in the spirit of this conversation should I dump chrome too?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 2:22 PM  

Hescominsoon wrote:Brave is based upon chromium...which is managed by Google...time to find something other than Firefox or brave.
There is nothing else. There are three browser codebases in use, Webkit (Safari), Mozilla (Firefox) and Chrome.

James wrote:I notice you didn't actually contribute anything
I notice you're a fucking moron. I don't know Brendan personally, but I have worked with him. I'd trust him with my money.
You, on the other hand, are a a vaguely effeminate block of text on the internet to me, seemingly bound on denigrating software you don't understand for reasons you also probably don't understand.

Blogger Hescominsoon January 09, 2021 2:23 PM  

Hescominsoon wrote:Brave is based upon chromium...which is managed by Google...time to find something other than Firefox or brave. then i looked at who makes it..i'll say..look deeper before you say something...my bad..:)

Blogger JM January 09, 2021 2:25 PM  

Can anyone recommend a good alternate to Thunderbird?

Blogger Hescominsoon January 09, 2021 2:26 PM  

Snidely Whiplash wrote:There is nothing else. There are three browser codebases in use, Webkit (Safari), Mozilla (Firefox) and Chrome.

actually there is. they just do not have the extension repositories that the big three do. Brave is a good temporary parking place..but brave still relies on the chrome web store. That's still enemy territory unfortunately. I am looking at other browsers...extensions are nice..but if you truly want to be away form Google..using something that relies on Google's webstore isn't truly free form Google.

Blogger Boo Boo the Fool, Esquire January 09, 2021 2:27 PM  

Gab's Dissenter is the only option, it is a fork of Brave. Brave replaced the spyware in Chrome but Dissenter then removed all the Brave spyware so there's nothing but the custom commenting system.

Blogger The Observer January 09, 2021 2:28 PM  

Commenting from Brave.

Was originally reluctant, but this finally pushed me out of my inertia to discover that there was now noscript for Chromium browsers.

Blogger Karen took the Kids January 09, 2021 2:30 PM  

Once the rot sets in its fascinating to watch the decline.
Unlike actual cancer though, it is not caused by hiring fat, ugly women or gay men that identify as My Little Pony characters.

Blogger Jpc January 09, 2021 2:36 PM  

Here's a question.
Who is making the decisions in Twitter Facebook Firefox etc?
I'm getting the feeling it's not necessarily the founders anymore.

Blogger Frozen Territory January 09, 2021 2:36 PM  

@80, do you (or anyone else in the chat I suppose) have any information on how independent firefox forks are in terms of development and ideology? I've put a good chunk of time over the years into learning how to de-poz ff and make it tolerate rural Alaska internet, and while I have had Brave installed since VD recommended it, I would have to relearn everything to achieve similar customization.

Blogger Hescominsoon January 09, 2021 2:36 PM  

JM wrote:Can anyone recommend a good alternate to Thunderbird?


emclient

Blogger roadgeek January 09, 2021 2:39 PM  

Brave. I cannot recommend the Brave browser enough. Fast and reliable. Easy to download and install. Not at all a memory hog. Did I say it was fast? And I've never, ever seen a page it couldn't render correctly.

Blogger Nate January 09, 2021 2:39 PM  

we live in world where Bing is actually one of least evil browsers... smh

Blogger eclecticme January 09, 2021 2:40 PM  

Alex Christoforou is talking about how Gab developed a Web Progressive Ap to avoid the ap stores. ??? He says others should follow suit. I know nothing.

Do any browsers other than FF work with download helper or equivalent for youtube? That is my only use for FF and seldom at that. Many youtube videos only allow ADP downloads which I do not understand.

I wish that more video sites were supported on Roku which is how I watch most videos. I suppose I could try to get a lap top and cast to a smart TV. I prefer the Roku remote.

BTW I have an ancient twitter account checked once per year. I have a FB account checked maybe quarterly. FB has deduced I am liberal, maybe from my music tastes that I posted. I posted once in the past 6 months, condolences to a dog owner on the death of her dog.

Maybe I can cast from my android phone?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 2:43 PM  

@James. Don't bother. Your Gamma sperge is not getting through. Don't start playing rules cop with the moderator.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 09, 2021 2:45 PM  

actually there is. they just do not have the extension repositories that the big three do.

There's more to it than extensions; there's the whole suite of functionality that makes up what it means to be a graphical web browser in 2021. Sure, there are other web browsers out there, like dillo or netsurf, if you don't need javascript or don't mind if some types of images are broken. I even fire up lynx (a text-only browser) once in a while for certain reasons. But all the feature-complete browsers I've aware of have moved to one of the three engines, because keeping up with all the technologies is just too much. Even Microsoft Edge is now chromium, I think.

If you know of any exceptions, we'd all love to hear about them.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 2:47 PM  

Damelon Brinn wrote:I even fire up lynx (a text-only browser) once in a while for certain reasons.
Just use wget and curl and parse the HTML yourself.
EASY!

Blogger Dave Bagwill January 09, 2021 2:47 PM  

Ok, just fired Mozilla. Just downloaded Brave. Just feeling good.

Blogger weka January 09, 2021 2:51 PM  

If you used Arch you can choose browsers. The both gnome and KDE have alternative browsers. I've got brave set as default using cinnamon.

Arch is easy to set up if you use the zen installer but that is too hard for the woke, who concentrate on ruining Ubuntu.

Blogger weka January 09, 2021 2:54 PM  

In the AUR in Arch.

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2021 3:00 PM  

Just learned that the person responsible for policy at Parler is Amy Peikoff. Amy is the ex-wife of Leonard Peikoff, who was the #1 acolyte of Alissa Rosenbaum (Ayn Rand). Amy does a podcast with Yaron Brook, former head of the Ayn Rand Institute and former Israeli intelligence officer, in which both have called for the summary nuclear annihilation of Iran and the removal of Donald Trump. For details see ariwatch.com.

Talk about controlled opposition! Parler is as neocon kosher as it's possible to be.

Amy said on Tucker last night that all it would take to kill Parler and cancel all the people who are flocking there is for the hosting company to pull the plug; apparently there is no backup plan. But I believe THAT was the plan all along.

Use Social Galactic. Also consider Telegram and/or Gab. NOT PARLER.

Blogger Amethyst Dominica January 09, 2021 3:01 PM  

@19

If you don't want to lose Firefox's features, try Pale Moon, a fork of Firefox made years ago.

http://www.palemoon.org/

Blogger Boaty Bear January 09, 2021 3:01 PM  

Isn't "donating $1k against gay marriage" a positive?

Blogger PD Quig January 09, 2021 3:04 PM  

Has Brave fixed their synch functionality yet? I've switched to them twice only to get my bookmarks across several platform completely hosed up.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling January 09, 2021 3:11 PM  

@105 eclecticme:

Do any browsers other than FF work with download helper or equivalent for youtube? That is my only use for FF and seldom at that. Many youtube videos only allow ADP downloads which I do not understand.

If you can use a command line, youtube-dl, and it might have GUI front ends I vaguely remember. And use it often, the half life of wrong think on a zillion platforms is getting to be radiomedicine or radiochemistry short.

And for those of you who reject a Chromium/Blink based browser just because it has Google cooties, learn more about the topic. With enough effort to de-Google it, it's still be best engine, as noted by @107 Damelon Brinn even Microsoft has thrown in the towel and moved to it. Is there even any good FOSS WebKit browser out there, from someone you trust? Because ultimately it comes down to trusting people and institutions, none of us can possibly audit a browser's code base.

Oh, and yes, Brave works fine on Ubuntu 18.04 Bionic Beaver LTS Linux. Programmers generally vastly prefer to develop using Linux over Windows, so these non-Apple browsers tend to have good Linux support.

Another reason for Firefox's decline and fall, it was said to have one of the best web development debugging ecosystems through extensions, so even if that wasn't a corporate goal, a lot of pages by default worked well with it. Now Firefox has a poor and incomplete copy of the Chrome extension system, and those developers don't use (modern) Firefox for development any more.

Blogger ZaijiaN January 09, 2021 3:13 PM  

You sir are a gentleman and a scholar

Blogger Boo Boo the Fool, Esquire January 09, 2021 3:18 PM  

Soros dumped a bunch of money into Mozilla, establishing a relationship that has basically destroyed the culture of the Mozilla browser in a few short years.

The way to break Silicon Valley is to switch to open XML formats for long-form content instead of HTML. HTML is so unverifiable and complicated to parse and render that it's practically analog, so only big corporations have the resources to build web browsers. They control the "software appliance" used to consume all content from the HTTP stream. I don't like that all mainstream browsers are now forked from the Chromium code because it means Google now makes behavioral decisions for the entire internet-dependent world.

And because everyone is using Chromium HTML browsers instead of custom XML clients, downstream businesses like yours and mine are then forced to overspend on visually elaborate websites, wasting megabytes of bandwidth per browser page to publish our content rather than just fleshing out the information-only tags of a tiny XML document.

Fortunately we are learning from phone apps and Telegram that web browsers are destined for obsolescence like broadcast television and print magazines.

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2021 3:18 PM  

Unfortunately Brave still has an issue of losing opened tabs after a crash.

Blogger Karen took the Kids January 09, 2021 3:21 PM  

Yes. You can sync all your bookmarks from all your devices.

Blogger Newscaper312 January 09, 2021 3:28 PM  

Re people whining about Brave being based on Chromium, Chromium is the open source base for Google Chrome. Open source means Brave gets the actual source code and can modify it to build their own product.
Google cant hide anything there.

Then your only concern is trusting what the Brave programmers do.

Blogger DasAxiom January 09, 2021 3:28 PM  

Likewise. Initially I just opted to use the Firefox forks, but that was short lived. Still hold onto the TOR browser though, useful in select scenarios. Highly recommend everyone have that + a VPN (Free version of Proton VPN) just in case.

Now its mostly the Dissenter Browser (Brave fork), in large part to support Torba's initiative. I like knowing where he stands on various issues, and I can relate more to his employment of memes as well as avowed Christianity. His head seems to be in the areas that matter more to me. Brendan Eich (Brave), not as much.

Blogger Kevin January 09, 2021 3:37 PM  

Does anyone have an opinion on Opera? It's got some pretty good features. Is Opera a converged company?

Blogger dienw January 09, 2021 3:37 PM  

Brave via youtube is getting hinky also; it won't show me my likes and saved list, nor will it show me the two dropdown lists on the right side; it won't even let me comment. Yet Firefox is fine...at the moment.

Blogger PD Quig January 09, 2021 3:40 PM  

Karen,
Yes, I know that they support synch across platforms, but the last two times I've tried to use it it was too buggy. I ended up with a mess that took me days to clean up. Have you used it across platforms recently. I've got thousands of bookmarks and it's a fairly big deal for me. Thanks.

Blogger Cary January 09, 2021 3:41 PM  

I primarily use Brave, but it can be a little difficult with certain sites, so I occasionally use Pale Moon as my alternative. I know Pale Moon runs off of the Firefox base. I'm not that tech savvy, so can someone more so tell me if this is in some way is beneficial to Firefox or will their choices ultimately impact Pale Moon?

Trying to decide whether I need to dump Pale Moon, or not.
Thanks

Blogger Tim G, January 09, 2021 3:48 PM  

Fire google too.

Blogger Karen took the Kids January 09, 2021 3:58 PM  

ProtonVPN is nice, thanks for the info. Are these services worth a paid plan in your opinion?

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 3:58 PM  

Kevin wrote:Is Opera a converged company?
Opera is owned by the Chinese Red Army. Assume that everything done on it is relayed to a huge data warehouse in China.

Blogger Damn Crackers January 09, 2021 4:03 PM  

I had to look up Sociofascism. It's a good descriptor of our current economic model.

Blogger Jeff Wood January 09, 2021 4:13 PM  

@105. Eclectic, I see you have had one reply to your question.

You may be thinking in terms of a downloader extension to your
Brave. However I use Brave plus a standalone downloader, ClipGrab, which works very well. I have used it to strip movies from both YouTube and BitChute, and suspect it will go to other places as well.

clipgrab.org

Blogger inglorious January 09, 2021 4:26 PM  

A couple years ago I kept FF on my PC when I was doing some web development. Needed it to make sure my sites worked correctly in FF. Then Mozilla posted another blog saying they were going to start fact checking news articles and letting you know which ones were trustworthy. At that moment I emailed them and said they could fact check my a$$ and then I uninstalled it. Didn't care if my sites worked with FF or not after that.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling January 09, 2021 4:38 PM  

For the losing open tabs issue on crashes or abrupt shutdown on Chromium based browsers, I've been using the Session Buddy extension for years. Now due to Google Web Store or whatever they call it insanity, it takes a bit more effort to manually do a save, but it's still OK and of course also autosaves.

@126 Cary:

I primarily use Brave, but it can be a little difficult with certain sites, so I occasionally use Pale Moon as my alternative. I know Pale Moon runs off of the Firefox base. I'm not that tech savvy, so can someone more so tell me if this is in some way is beneficial to Firefox or will their choices ultimately impact Pale Moon?

Trying to decide whether I need to dump Pale Moon, or not.
Thanks


Has the guy behind it gotten a clue about using separate processes for each tab/site for much better security? For a fork that radical back then having an idiot about security heading the effort and doing most of the work was an unacceptable risk.

I can double check on this if you wish, but it's highly unlikely someone that dense would ever get it.

(Seperate processes have been the fundamental method of isolation for security since the dawn of time sharing six decades ago. Means process A can't simply look at or change all the contents of process B ... a good analogy would be single family detached dwellings close enough at each other that you can see a bit in windows from your windows, and people out in their yards, but you have to take active measures to cross over to their property to really see or do anything.)

Blogger map January 09, 2021 4:48 PM  

Unknown wrote:Unfortunately Brave still has an issue of losing opened tabs after a crash.

This actually isn't true.

Brave will restore tabs after a crash.

Blogger Mihai Nichita January 09, 2021 4:49 PM  

Some time ago, in a previous Darkstream, Vox explained to us how we can download apps on our phones without Google/BigTech spying/tracking us. If there any gentleman here that can explain that again? Thanks.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 09, 2021 4:55 PM  

Mihai Nichita wrote:Some time ago, in a previous Darkstream, Vox explained to us how we can download apps on our phones without Google/BigTech spying/tracking us.
Install the fdroid app from the google playstore. It gives you access to a world of open source apps.

Blogger Scott Alfter January 09, 2021 4:58 PM  

Testing...

Blogger Unknown January 09, 2021 4:58 PM  

@133 Thanks for the tip on Session Buddy. Checking it out now.

Blogger Karen took the Kids January 09, 2021 5:01 PM  

Oh, I only have under 50 so the quantity may be a problem. I had issues in the past that have been resolved but at your scale I can't honestly say, sorry.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz January 09, 2021 5:10 PM  

We use Opera, though I have Firefarts still in the system.

Blogger artensoll January 09, 2021 5:14 PM  

@69 "I never used Firefox because I am unable to think in Russian."

I love it here.

Anonymous Anonymous January 09, 2021 5:27 PM  

Amazing scenes. I saw some bollocks at the bottom of Firefox about Trump "This week we saw the culmination of a four-year disinformation campaign orchestrated by the President. We have to acknowledge how the internet was misused to get here.". Now on Brave.

Anonymous Anonymous January 09, 2021 5:28 PM  

Yep, it's gone alongside Thunderbird.

Blogger Mike Rock January 09, 2021 5:50 PM  

Up in the top lefthand corner on Firefox are several useful links, like File Edit View etc. How do I activate the same easy to use tabs in Brave? Going into settings each time to send a link sucks..

Blogger Punkindrublik January 09, 2021 5:53 PM  

"Install the fdroid app from the google playstore."

While this does provide an abstraction layer from the spying, if it lives on the Big Tech "stores" it will be pressured into compliance. Fdroid already puked on Gab's repo.

Several alternatives to the Apple/Google duopoly are brewing. Gab is working on a phone, and there are several linux distros for some existing phones (i.e Graphene). They are still a bit rough around the edges, but some look promising

In the end, determine personal assessment on the Convenience vs. security slider.

Blogger IreneAthena January 09, 2021 6:16 PM  

"I feel good. *trumpet, trumpet, trumpet*. I knew that I would."

I finally cut the cord to Facebook last night, after a few parting taunts to Zuck in my final days. These did not result in my being banned, so I earned zero points in the #GetYourselfBanned challenge Snidely Whiplash threw out. I DO have a boatload of extra hours and energy to do and read useful things-- instead of the emotional drain of witnessing friends, with whom I used to have fun, in their sad descent into Critical Theory virtue-signalling madness (and of being called a racist when I tried to point the way out.) I won't miss FB's insufferable censoring of half the things I wanted to post. Next step: Firefox is already a long way back in the rearview mirror, but there's still a lot of distance I can put between myself and Google products. And of course making the arrangements suggested in VD's previous post, in preparation for interruption in access to favorite websites, of which this is definitely one.

I was never invited to Social Galactic, but for that privilege there are other requirements besides an unauthorized.tv subscription (including a history free of making a pest of oneself here.) While I give Gab techs a chance to deal with the great swell of other FaceBook refugees, I plan to ENJOY and make good use of my social media break. Finish those "Good Gardening" projects I learned about on Unauthorized.tv!!! Thanks again for the not-so gentle reminders to STOP SUPPORTING PEOPLE WHO HATE ME.

"So good. So good."

Blogger Hescominsoon January 09, 2021 6:21 PM  

7916 wrote:Will this affect Pale Moon?
yes it will as palemoon is based upon firefox

7916 wrote:Will this affect Pale Moon?
parler runs on top of amazon web services. If this was done on purpose then it's either incompetence..or controlled opposition..

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:@105 eclecticme:

Do any browsers other than FF work with download helper or equivalent for youtube? That is my only use for FF and seldom at that. Many youtube videos only allow ADP downloads which I do not understand.

.

I use a program called 4k video downloader. It's hong kong/chinese..but screw it. Although with the great purge being on and Google being converged I do not know how long youtube will be around...of course it's a shambling mound and they tend to shamble for great lengths of time..

Blogger tublecane January 09, 2021 6:22 PM  

There was a reason they've demonized McCarthy for 70 years. Not the real McCarthy, mind you, but a False McCarthy conjured by their fears. Because they don't want us to do to them what they're doing to us.

Once upon a time adults controlled speech relatively responsibly. By for instance driving filthy commies out of the public square. One reason this is that the courts turned on it. They stopped even allowing universities to stay cite disciplinary reasons for curtailing "free speech." Because the courts always know better how to run everything.

I bring this up because the court's excuse in one case for stepping in was based--because they're dirty lawyers--on twisting words around the utterer's neck. The university had a mission statement or whatever espousing platitudes about openness and speech and blah, blah, blah. Which the court determined lent it a responsibility to enforce on the university's behalf. In the court's own opinion of what the mission statement implies.

Gee, I wonder whether the court's will dig into everything these "platforms" ever said about free speech, then hold them to their words. Or rather the courts' interpretation of their words. Wait, no I don't.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei January 09, 2021 6:32 PM  

Already used on my PC. Finally installed on my phone too.

Blogger travvyboy January 09, 2021 7:15 PM  

It's surprisingly easy to import all of your bookmarks and login settings to Brave with a single click. I guess I'll be using Brave from now on. It has a built in TOR browser which is pretty cool, I've never used that before!

Blogger Rough Carrigan January 09, 2021 7:18 PM  

Thanks for the prod. I've been meaning to switch to Brave for a long time now. Done.

Blogger Scott January 09, 2021 8:34 PM  

Been using Brave as my main on my Desktop for a couple of years now, and haven't used FF since 2007. Been on Parler, but the interface is Meh, and I just use it for news, really. Looking for a decent Youtube replacement, eventually.

Blogger Robert What? January 09, 2021 8:42 PM  

I've been using Palemoon for years. Very customizable.

Blogger A M D G January 09, 2021 11:29 PM  

I switched from startpage to duckduckgo a few years ago and have been pleased.

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Blogger JM January 09, 2021 11:36 PM  

Is it me, or has Firefox become slow, prone to freeze-ups, and unreliable? Seems like every few days I have to stop it and restart it. I was contemplating moving to Brave anyway. And Brave is by far the best for Android.

What annoys me is Brave lacks things like a menu bar, tabs on the bottom, title bar. You can customize these things on Firefox, but not Brave, as far as I can tell.

And...just now, could not post this using Brave. Had to switch back to Firefox for that.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 10, 2021 1:36 AM  

Punkindrublik wrote:While this does provide an abstraction layer from the spying, if it lives on the Big Tech "stores" it will be pressured into compliance. Fdroid already puked on Gab's repo.
Fdroid is not an abstraction layer. It is an escape hatch. If you don't like installing from the Play Store, you can download and install the APK from the website. Unfortunately some carriers have disabled that functionality on their phones. Rather than trying to explain all that, while fdroid is still on the Play Store, that is the simplest and most straightforward way to escape the Google prison.
I could have suggested LineageOS at LineageOS.org, which is a full replacement for Android. How many people would find it useful?

Blogger DonReynolds January 10, 2021 1:51 AM  

I am not certain exactly what the Leftist want or hope to accomplish.

My optimistic side says they want more safe spaces and more echo chambers where never is heard a discouraging word against their false narratives. I do not have a problem with that campaign. You could look at it like a private club or just some old time segregation. Fine by me. I do not want to visit any of "their" silly websites anyway. Some sort of genteel New Age bubble where they can cry about social justice and the end of the world, caused by global warming. Got it.

My less optimistic side says this is not the case. After all, they do this already and have for years... banning the deleting those who create a disturbance in the Force. Maybe the realistic expectation is the Leftist Radicals want the internet all to themselves, so they can hunt down and purge those users who fail to follow their frequently changing focus and narrative. After all, even silence is violence in their mind. Do WE have a right to exist, even on the internet? Yes, I believe WE do.

Blogger captainofthegate January 10, 2021 2:06 AM  

Installed. Brave very similar to Firefox. Actually all browsers are same same. Copy paste crushes the oligarchs again. Dumb tyrants.

Blogger Kpeg January 10, 2021 2:57 AM  

https://youtu.be/B_Q5Tk4dkrA

Blogger Isolden January 10, 2021 3:40 AM  

That was a great movie

Blogger Isolden January 10, 2021 3:46 AM  

I think they just did that, pulled the servers

Blogger agent_buzz January 10, 2021 4:53 AM  

Matt:
Protonmail and Tutanota are two good choices for e-mail. NC Scout published an article on how to build a secure Android tablet. I bought a Fire 10 and set it up according to the instructions. One of the apps on it is the DuckDuckGo Privacy Browser.
https://brushbeater.org/2020/12/10/link-repository-for-secure-android-tablet/

Blogger The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 10, 2021 5:21 AM  

I use many browsers for reasons.

Firefox is the only browser that allows me to comment here. I don't know why that is, and I have not explored it. But Chrome, Edge, Safari, Brave and Opera simply do not allow me to comment here. This has been the case for a long time and I find it puzzling.

So, if I am commenting here, it's because I fired up Firefox to comment here. That is the only reason that I ever fire up Firefox, mind you.

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2021 5:32 AM  

@33 "-- Brave was started under questionable circumstances (donating $1k against gay marriage?)"

You mean because they donated so little?

Blogger Rabid Ratel January 10, 2021 6:19 AM  

The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey wrote:But Chrome, Edge, Safari, Brave and Opera simply do not allow me to comment here.

Have you tried Brave with shields down for VP?

Blogger Mihai Nichita January 10, 2021 6:41 AM  

Fdroid seems pretty poor. For example, I can't find Gab or Infogalactic News there.

Blogger Avalanche January 10, 2021 7:00 AM  

@147 "I use a program called 4k video downloader."

I also use 4K's excellent programs: both their YT video DL and their YT-to-MP3. Talking head vids don't need to be DLed as video; and I can listen to them on my MP3 player as I do other things. Do that with a lot of UA.TV stuff too.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 10, 2021 12:12 PM  

I am not certain exactly what the Leftist want or hope to accomplish.

"They hate you and they want you dead." I don't know who coined that phrase, but that's what they hope to accomplish. Everything up to that is foreplay.

Blogger Bezzle January 10, 2021 5:41 PM  

@165. The Depolrable Podunk Ken Ramsey January 10, 2021 5:21 AM
Firefox is the only browser that allows me to comment here.

Try a Firefox fork, of which there are several (NewMoon, Waterfox, Waterfox Classic, etc).

Blogger Firelane404 January 10, 2021 10:20 PM  

Some may say this is a stupid reason, but I prefer startpage mostly because the guy who started duckduckgo's last name is "Weinberg"

Blogger Guy Jean January 11, 2021 8:54 AM  

Dumped Firefox. Installed Brave and Vivaldi.

Blogger Guy Jean January 11, 2021 8:58 AM  

Dumped Firefox. Installed Brave and Vivaldi.

Blogger Guy Jean January 11, 2021 9:34 AM  

Had no trouble commenting here using Brave.

Blogger MrNiceguy January 11, 2021 5:27 PM  

It's not as simple as Firefox's download helper, but look into youtube-dl. It's a command-line program that will grab video from most sites.

Blogger MrNiceguy January 11, 2021 5:33 PM  

Opera is now a ChiCom-owned operation. Avoid.

On the other hand, the original Opera dev makes Vivaldi. I mostly use Brave, but Vivaldi is my secondary option. I'll probably give Gab's Dissenter a try soon.

Blogger MrNiceguy January 11, 2021 5:35 PM  

Pale Moon is a pre-convergence fork of Firefox.

Blogger MrNiceguy January 11, 2021 5:40 PM  

Unfortunately fdroid is a SJW operation. Back in the early days when Gab cared about having an app, they approached fdroid about getting it in their repository. Essentially, the fdroid admins called him a fascist and told him to pound sand.

Apparently fdroid hold the philosophy Free Software, yes; Free Speech, no.

Blogger Guy Jean January 19, 2021 9:18 AM  

Interesting review of Brave from Mr. Internet Privacy: https://youtu.be/dsu9b5FqK_0
Slightly techie but followable. 15 mins.

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