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Sunday, January 03, 2021

Is Biden conceding?

Multiple rumors are swirling concerning the concession of the Biden-Harris team before January 6. One rumor suggests that the fake president-elect and fake vice-president-elect are angling for pardons in return for conceding. One rumor that appears to be solid is that the planned Biden inaugural parade has been canceled.

As I pointed out on November 22, this election crisis ends when Biden concedes. Because President Trump isn't going to, doesn't have to, and wouldn't consider doing so for a second. And once Biden concedes, the Narrative will be shattered and President Trump can proceed with the clean-up process.

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183 Comments:

Blogger Yukichi Sensei January 03, 2021 11:19 AM  

Prayer and prudence. Trump will make a solid choice. He has not taken the ticket.

Blogger pyrrhus January 03, 2021 11:21 AM  

Maybe Biden has a little patriot left in him, and doesn't want to give China de facto control of the US and US armed forces.....

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 03, 2021 11:27 AM  

This is more likely to be the Trump plan A than depending on Pence to stand up to people who say mean things. Gonna guess that ``Pence gets a pair, and a spine,'' is down around plan E or F. I'm sure there are backup plans beyond E or F, too.

Blogger Lazarus January 03, 2021 11:28 AM  

Hope he wearing a prison jump suit at the time. Let we will know the real Orange Man Bad.

Blogger Wayne January 03, 2021 11:30 AM  

It will be interesting to witness the Biden campaign and his media construct a "never mind" narrative regarding China Joe and his election "victory".

Blogger Boaty Bear January 03, 2021 11:30 AM  

Offer them the pardon, and then rescind it,
Promises mean nothing,
their rules their game.


And then, firing squad for Treason/sedition/Human-Child trafficking.


Blogger Dire Badger January 03, 2021 11:35 AM  

He's probably going to concede while claiming he is 'doing it for the country' and that he's the bigger man and a hero for doing it, and in the process stop the voter fraud investigations.

He's Lying, but if he doesn't do it, the DNC could well cease to exist as every one of their staffers and a large number of politicians start getting investigated as well, and from there, all other deep state properties.

Cascade failure. Here's hoping it happens.

Blogger Dire Badger January 03, 2021 11:36 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:Maybe Biden has a little patriot left in him, and doesn't want to give China de facto control of the US and US armed forces.....

Not a Chance. No one likes a quitter, not even Satan.

Blogger Mauldication Bear January 03, 2021 11:39 AM  

But I've already made my popcorn.

Blogger Delaware Blue Hen January 03, 2021 11:39 AM  

Maybe pardons for the fake president-elect and his running mate (with full confessions and details on how the scam was done), but there needs to be some jail time and/or executions for someone. The people in question need to be fairly high up in order to discourage the others.

Blogger Gregory the Tall January 03, 2021 11:40 AM  

In their orange jump suits the Bidens can still be part of the victory parade.

Blogger Joe Smith January 03, 2021 11:41 AM  

@2 pyrrhus How does one even address that. Biden has nothing left in him -- he is an empty shell, cored out by decades of evil and more lately senility.

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 11:43 AM  

The CEO of based just called, you got a promotion.

Blogger Claudio January 03, 2021 11:44 AM  

This is where they try their own medicine.

Blogger Pipeman January 03, 2021 11:45 AM  

To quote Don Surber “No excitement without indictment!” But please, Dear LORD God, let it be so.

Blogger Cappuccinobear January 03, 2021 11:50 AM  

I believe that no matter what happens politically, the military itself is ready to fix things and has been for years. I believe that trump was tapped by the military as the "last" political solution to fix the system before they could reasonably enforce the constitution through military means.
We shall see.

Blogger Brick Hardslab January 03, 2021 11:50 AM  

At this point, if Biden concedes he'll go to prison? At his age why concede? There's no upside to his concession. Instead, Biden and his family goes to prison. That's not a lot of motivation for concession

Blogger George Costanza January 03, 2021 11:50 AM  

*vigorously slams more popcorn into mouth*

Blogger Duh January 03, 2021 11:51 AM  

I really wish it were true, but these people are delusional liars who always double down, so I'm not holding my breath

Blogger Gettimothy January 03, 2021 11:52 AM  

I hope that Biden has repented, will publicly confess his sins and will ask for forgiveness before conceding; Mortality has a way of focusing the heart and mind. To really piss off the globohomo, invoke God as the reason.

Win, win.

Blogger Rick January 03, 2021 11:54 AM  

“No deals.”
Q

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 03, 2021 11:58 AM  

pyrrhus wrote:Maybe Biden has a little patriot left in him, and doesn't want to give China de facto control of the US and US armed forces.....
Oh, that's a good one! Tell us another.
Boaty Bear wrote:Offer them the pardon, and then rescind it,
Promises mean nothing,
their rules their game.

A pardon for a senile old man isn't too high a price to pay. For the malignant prostitute, a pardon for this and an execution for that would be in order. It's not like any of them have committed just one crime.
Delaware Blue Hen wrote:... there needs to be some jail time and/or executions for someone.
We must SEE justice done.
Delaware Blue Hen wrote:The people in question need to be fairly high up in order to discourage the others.
Right now, we all know that laws are for little people, that we have no moral obligation to follow any law, that the rule of law ended long ago. The trials and the hangings must begin at the top and run to the bottom, and must be very public indeed, if we want to restore the rule of law.
We must SEE justice done.

Blogger knight who said ni January 03, 2021 11:58 AM  

Biden and Harris likely had the election stolen for them-but not by them- so a pardon for conceding might not be a bad idea and although they are bad actors they are by far not the worst

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 11:59 AM  

Macris has a new article up.
https://macris.substack.com/p/total-and-limited-war-and-politics

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. January 03, 2021 12:00 PM  

Trump just retweeted that the Joe Biden inaugural parade has been canceled

Blogger Nemesis The Warlock January 03, 2021 12:00 PM  

Such a pity that Trump's not a ∑, that's a movie I'd pay to see.....

Blogger Rick January 03, 2021 12:01 PM  

Trump and Biden are playing poker.
Biden: I’ve got a great hand. I’m willing to fold if you agree to split the pot.
Trump: I have 4 aces and 6 bullets.

Blogger Jack Ward January 03, 2021 12:02 PM  

2. pyrrhus
That is generous. But, Trump should, imho, accept the concession graciously, but, due to the seriousness of the charges full prosecution must proceed, in a military tribunal venue, with the sealed indictments to be read after the executions.
I truly lust for this...

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 12:05 PM  

It's not about Biden personally. He might even legitimately claim he was not capable of being responsible due to impaired cognitive abilities and that actually would fly a lot of the public. It's the chain of events that follow for the deep state apparatus. What leverage does Trump and Miller/ Watnick have? And don't kid yourselves, it has to involve Miller / Watnick. Anyone else is unreliable including Pence and Pompeo.

Blogger guardianDogg January 03, 2021 12:06 PM  

More likely he doesn't want to go to jail or worse. Jan 6th is creeping closer. Trump gave them enough rope to hang themselves.

Blogger Crew January 03, 2021 12:08 PM  

I don't know that I want to see Biden concede.

I would rather see him lead away in handcuffs and the whole deep state sent to Guantanamo.

Blogger Phelps January 03, 2021 12:10 PM  

Under the laws of land warfare, if one is being sieged and wishes to be pardoned under terms, you have to open the gates before the attack to breach the walls begins. Once the attack begins, you can surrender all you want when the walls have already fallen, but you are still going to be put to the sword and the fortification pillaged.

Biden has until the 6th under that reasoning. Once the count has begun, he gets the office or the sword.

Blogger Jon P. R. January 03, 2021 12:15 PM  

Brick Hardslab wrote:There's no upside to his concession.

Can you read? Rumors of him seeking a pardon for conceding. This isn't that hard...

Blogger Erich Schwarz January 03, 2021 12:16 PM  

George Orwell once noted a similarity between England standing up to Hitler against horrible odds in 1939-1940, and England standing up to Napoleon 130 years earlier: the same sorts of things kept happening. Crazy rumors of all sorts rushing around. The nauseating likelihood that the gates would be betrayed and thrown open to one's enemy by fifth-column traitors within one's own ranks. Endless delays without any objective signs of hope; slow incremental defeats. Above all, the despairing sense that *even now* the good guys could win this, if they could just purge their traitors and would themselves stop being inept too-little-too-lates.

I read that commentary by Orwell 32 years ago. Until this year, I had no idea what it really felt like to live through that sort of civilizational siege. Now I do.

But, England did defeat both Napoleon and Hitler in the end. May we do at least as well now!

Blogger MATT January 03, 2021 12:19 PM  

Biden has never been a patriot

Blogger Lazarus January 03, 2021 12:25 PM  

maybe a pardon, but jail instead of execution

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 12:27 PM  

2. pyrrhus January 03, 2021 11:21 AM
Maybe Biden has a little patriot left in him, and doesn't want to give China de facto control of the US and US armed forces.....


*chortles in appreciation of a fine joke*


i will point out that the United Nations is making noise that the Blackwater pardons break "international law" and are a "war crime".

and this rate, they're going to force Donny Tiny Hands to take over the whole world and become God Emperor just to insure they don't murder him and his whole family.

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 12:36 PM  

Numbers 16; The ground should open up and swallow them, then fire from Heaven come down and consume all their minions....unless they repent.

Blogger Nate January 03, 2021 12:38 PM  

i could totally see Biden conceding and coming off as a hero... or at least being portrayed as such. the great statesman who gave up the presidency when he was shown that there really had been fraud. The media will eat it up. They will want to build statues of him.

***puke***

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 03, 2021 12:40 PM  

You know Trump wants that prime Manhattan real estate

Blogger JD Curtis January 03, 2021 12:41 PM  

Via Rogan O'Handley:

Hey @KamalaHarris - remember when you called Creepy Joe after all the election fraud and said “we didddd ittttt”?

Why don’t you put your money where your mouth is and resign your Senate seat?

You “did it” right?

Link

Blogger Fe2O3 January 03, 2021 12:42 PM  

Concessions, pardons, and anything else by the old rules really don't matter. These are all part of the game where people agree to follow a set of rules. The Left has shown it does not honor the old rules and should receive no grace based on them. I understand the position of trying to win with the least bloody results but these people will not go away on their own but rather do so with "fingers crossed" only to strike at the next opportunity. As much as it pains many of us to admit the country is no longer a salvageable project. The evil must be rooted out and new rules made.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 03, 2021 12:44 PM  

We will see what it means soon enough.
Re. a person for Joe Biden.
Not, unless Biden also forfeits two of his propetties, one of which must be the one with the water view. Then, the person must make mention of Biden's mental decline in granting the merciful pardon. Then, give Biden immunity and force his testimony.
All others get the noose or the pop.I
Lower down, jsilbtime, lose of retirement, dishonorable discharges, etc.
In sports, problems you would not ignore in failure you must not ignore in victory.I
What happened in 2020 election is a result of ignoring 2016 and 2018.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 03, 2021 12:45 PM  

Before Biden concedes, I would expect to see the media setting up a narrative for it. They need some scapegoats to blame it on, for instance. As things stand right now, they have millions of people gaslit into thinking it's all over and settled except for some crazy conspiracy theories. If Biden just concedes out of the blue without a supporting narrative in place, those people will wonder why, and the truth might come out.

So I dunno, until the MSM starts running those stories, doubling-down until they're arrested seems more likely to me. Which would also be fine.

Blogger Joeplanet January 03, 2021 12:47 PM  

No executions means no deterrence to future organized crime in our highest institutions.

Blogger Dos Voltz January 03, 2021 12:47 PM  

Wow. England defeated Hitler? I never knew that.

I'll remember to be thankful that I'm not speaking German when the next gay pride parade rolls down my street. While young mothers with toddlers cheer on the sodomy being done atop the parade floats.

Victory!!

Blogger Ferdl January 03, 2021 12:47 PM  

I would try to buy Biden out. He ist corrupt to the core and I am sure that an argument of the type "Switch sides and tell us everything you know and spend your final few years in a luxury prison, or you will be accused of treason along with all the people who control you" might work on him. Only problem: his handlers probably don't let anyone near Biden.

In any case, exactly because Trump would have the power to clean up after a concession, Biden's handlers will not even consider a concession. For them it is better to continue the fight. Both sides know that the other side will not stick to any agreement of restraint because respecting such an agreement would be suicidal. Neither side can afford to concede to the other side the uncontested control the reins of power. That is why we had 4 years of Russia Hoax.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 03, 2021 12:50 PM  

knight who said ni wrote:Biden and Harris likely had the election stolen for them-but not by them- so a pardon for conceding might not be a bad idea and although they are bad actors they are by far not the worst
The political class are the tools of the worst. If you know the name, it is almost certainly a puppet, not a puppet master.
Nate wrote:i could totally see Biden conceding and coming off as a hero... or at least being portrayed as such. the great statesman who gave up the presidency when he was shown that there really had been fraud. The media will eat it up.
That would be a good way to keep the normies from waking up and noticing. I wouldn't see that as a good sign for our nations.

Blogger Elder Son January 03, 2021 12:50 PM  

And don't forget, "Now when they heard this, they were cut to the quick, and they began gnashing their teeth at him."

You haven't seen crazy, yet. Well, maybe a little bit.

Blogger Didas Kalos January 03, 2021 12:53 PM  

There will be only ONE high profile traitor who is pardoned and allowed to sort of fade away but totally embarrassed.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 January 03, 2021 12:56 PM  

The only reason Biden's handlers will force him to concede is if the know that Trump will obliterate in the coming weeks.

Blogger Newscaper312 January 03, 2021 12:58 PM  

It's always hard to separate the organic rumors which might have some reflection of reality, interpretation based on slivers of intel, from more outright speculation.
Just have to wait and see here.

Blogger The Lab Manager January 03, 2021 12:59 PM  

It's going to be awesome to see all the shitlib heads explode. That alone is worth the price of admission.

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 1:01 PM  

Trump won, end of sentence!

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 1:03 PM  

Is VD lurking in hopes for the 300 mil get?

Blogger Delaware Blue Hen January 03, 2021 1:05 PM  

An interesting question comes to mind--if Biden and company were to concede to Trump, how would the press cover it? Many in the press were in on the steal and were active participants. The fate of William Brooke Joyce comes to mind as being a suitable conclusion to the matter.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 03, 2021 1:06 PM  

It is vitally important to remember, going forward, that even if all of the bullshit being directed at us folds up and disappears like a puff of smoke, just how hard we've been gaslighted for the sake of a few greedy middle tier players taking small cash bribes. Imagine if it were the really big players or the envious barbarian hordes inside our borders instead? Think those aren't already gaslighting us too? They are. Though they're doing it in different areas.

Blogger boron January 03, 2021 1:12 PM  

He's gonna pass the baton down to the Cali Ho who'll pass it down to Nancy.
jes kiddin!

Blogger A Beautiful Saturday Morning January 03, 2021 1:15 PM  

The GE does know how to use leverage.

Blogger Parallax January 03, 2021 1:16 PM  

“planned Biden inaugural parade has been canceled.”

Because of COVID, obviously. However, 80 million cardboard cutout fans will be staged on the National Mall so it isn’t canceled canceled but only “canceled”.

It’s all fake.

Blogger Lazarus January 03, 2021 1:18 PM  

rumors like this have been around for a month +

Nov 28

https://freenorth.news/2020/11/28/conceding-biden-ready-to-admit-defeat-seeks-pardon-for-crimes/

Blogger Doktor Jeep January 03, 2021 1:19 PM  

The biggest scramble is how to adapt the narrative. The narrative is so important to them, it's taking on it's own life and power and will devoir them. We catch glimpses of this in the occasional purity spiral.

Blogger Hammerli 280 January 03, 2021 1:20 PM  

Considering the hysteria over COVID in DC, it does not surprise me that the inaugural parade has been cancelled. Even if the election had been perfectly honest and we were on track for Trump to take the oath of office, it would still have been cancelled...but Trump would be rescheduling for something like 4 July.

Blogger Crew January 03, 2021 1:23 PM  

Chris Wallace hardest hit!

Blogger Rick January 03, 2021 1:23 PM  

I haven’t tracked every Trump pardon, but I got the impression they were only given to people who didn’t deserve their injustices. Similarly, Trump only treats badly the people who deserve it (much of the press for example) and gives lots of praise to those who have earned it. He gives lots of thank yous, graciousness, and kindness, if you’ve noticed.
Biden doesn’t qualify for a Trump pardon.

Blogger Wazdakka January 03, 2021 1:24 PM  

Any chance of press publishers facing comeuppance for the lies they've peddled over the last few years?

Blogger Pope Cleophus I January 03, 2021 1:24 PM  

Trump could pardon the Biden family for US crimes and then hand them over to the Ukrainians for their crimes in Ukraine.

Blogger Gettimothy January 03, 2021 1:26 PM  

OT, but heartwarming....E.Michael Jones links to his Infogalactic page via his Gab account.

https://gab.com/EMichaelJones

Preference cascade incoming!

Anonymous Anonymous January 03, 2021 1:33 PM  

Wouldn't be surprising in the slightest, as it has probably been relayed that the Scytl server results will be released in the contested election debates. I fully believe the Scytl server(s) were confiscated as Lt. General McInerney has specifically stated as such, and he is not what any reasonable person would call a "conspiracy theorist":

https://www.glocktalk.com/threads/general-mcinerney-says-raid-on-server-farm-is-real.1878761/

Blogger Azimus January 03, 2021 1:34 PM  

Regardless of who wins, wouldn't there be an inauguration parade?

Blogger urthshu January 03, 2021 1:35 PM  

>>maybe a pardon, but jail instead of execution

Traditional is exile I believe.

Blogger Erich Schwarz January 03, 2021 1:36 PM  

"Wow. England defeated Hitler? I never knew that."

It's hard to remember now, isn't it? But Churchill lived to see the war's end in triumph; Hitler died by suicide in a bunker. I'll take that definition of 'victory', thanks.

The real point is not that England failed to win the war, but that (to quote Tolkien): "If this is victory, our hands are too small to hold it." Neither England nor the United States were able to hold on their victories, as we here now sadly know.

It would be a great deliverance for Trump to defeat The Coup. But it would not be the end of struggle, any more than May 1945 was. No defeat is final; and no victory is final. At least not in this world.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 03, 2021 1:36 PM  

"There's no upside to his concession. Instead, Biden and his family goes to prison. That's not a lot of motivation for concession"

Instead? Here's a real instead. Concedes, confesses, and gets nice, quiet retirement to a hospice. Involved family get lethal injections instead of decorating trees or walls courtesy of novice riflemen. Harris needs to be eliminated period, but let's say permanent deportation instead of decoration, if she walks away.

We're past the point where prison is going to work, even beginning to move on will require either cauterization or amputation, otherwise this all starts again in three years, only worse. Besides, people who can't be reformed don't merit prison, that would be wasteful.

"the great statesman who gave up the presidency when he was shown that there really had been fraud."

I don't believe they'll ever admit there was significant fraud on their side. First, because they're all complicit. Second, because even if they aren't complicit, they're firmly convinced it was the right thing to do. They most they will do is to go silent and pretend nothing ever happened, while they prepare to do "nothing" all over again next round twice as hard.

They might spin the concession as "Biden/Harris had to go into hiding out of fear of the Orange Tyranny." They might try to run with a secret king/exilarch story attached to that.

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 January 03, 2021 1:45 PM  

They finally waking up to "this can go baddly for you OR this can go really really badly for you"?

Blogger Avalanche January 03, 2021 1:45 PM  

@20 "I hope that Biden has repented, will publicly confess his sins and will ask for forgiveness before conceding; Mortality has a way of focusing the heart and mind. To really piss off the globohomo,"

And THEN: rope, meet lampost!!!

Treason is treason; asking for forgiveness does NOT wipe out the crimes!! The penalty for treason is DEATH! Forgiveness is a nice fillip, but has NO BEARING on the crimes or the corrective punishments!!

Blogger Beans January 03, 2021 1:45 PM  

'At this point, if Biden concedes he'll go to prison? At his age why concede? There's no upside to his concession. Instead, Biden and his family goes to prison. That's not a lot of motivation for concession'

Because concession is less demoralizing and still gives one a foot to stand on. It's the Alford Plea of politics. "Yeah, I'll do the time but I won't ever admit guilt" which allows one to be so virtuous and an easy out.

Kamala and virtuous. I do not think those two go together.

Blogger van helsing January 03, 2021 1:47 PM  

joe is a potato. kamala is a front. so the decision on concede or not belongs to their handlers etc. expect no concession?

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 January 03, 2021 1:49 PM  

As for Pardon on Biden it could be he has the sentence fulfilled by house arrest

Blogger michimartini January 03, 2021 1:50 PM  

But if he concedes I expect the CCP to eat him alive. They paid him good money to steal the election. So I see a suicide in his near future.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer January 03, 2021 1:50 PM  

The timing of The winniest president elect ever canceling his parade screams something.
I would think the winniest president ever should have the biggest parade ever.

Blogger Avalanche January 03, 2021 1:52 PM  

@23 "Biden and Harris likely had the election stolen for them-but not by them- so a pardon for conceding might not be a bad idea and although they are bad actors they are by far not the worst"

So, if someone rapes one of your daughters and kills the other -- the rapist, if he 'asks for forgiveness,' gets let off!? Cause he's "by far not the worst"?!?! WTH!?

If Biden buys and benefits from hiring a murderer of, say, the United States of America, he's not "the worst" and should be granted clemency?! Oh HELL NO!

That is how you get the worst!! Excusing less crimes means more lesser crimes followed by bigger and worse crimes! See: Portland, Seattle, NYFC, SFran, all the "let them steal up to $999 and no arrests" cities? The "broken window' theory did a good job cleaning NYFC!!

This kind of weak mealy-mouthed half-surrender is how we GOT here!

Blogger Avalanche January 03, 2021 1:58 PM  

@29 "He might even legitimately claim he was not capable of being responsible due to impaired cognitive abilities..."

He was when he started it! We have him of video.

There should be no defense because he was mentally or physically impaired -- he was NOT when he committed 47 years of crimes! If you really want to feel sympathy and sorrow for some old geezer, turn it towards the old geezers who were injured and damaged by Joe-and-the-Ho's choices and votes, and actions! And/or the CHILDREN Joe and his family damaged...

Weak men lead to bad times. DON'T be a weak man!

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 2:01 PM  

I'm reading through the latest Macris article thst I posted earlier in the comments. I think it's actually quite relevant to the discourse here about a hypothetical Biden concession and / or pardon. Particularly the part about whether fraud justifies violence as a political expression and reaction.

Blogger Steghorn21 January 03, 2021 2:04 PM  

Just finished reading Carlyle's Last of the Roman Tribunes about Cola di Rienzi, who tried to sort out the Roman deep state in the 1340s. He failed because he made one terrible error: he failed to execute the scummy Roman nobles whom he caught red handed planning his assassination. Not calling for violence, but I hope that Trump lets none (repeat, none) of the traitors of the last 4 years and more escape without massive, shock and awe punishment. For his and America's sake.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 03, 2021 2:05 PM  

We lost to a different enemy

Blogger Avalanche January 03, 2021 2:10 PM  

@47 ""Switch sides and tell us everything you know and spend your final few years in a luxury prison,"

Geez!! You folks keep writing as if he has any mental ability left! Have you never cared for a demented parent?

"Honey, are you in pain?"
"Yes."
"Where does it hurt?"
"I dunno."
{frustrated helplessness}

He can't even remember his wife from his sister! Y'all keep writing as if questioning him will get ANY information at all, much less any worth the pardon or clemency.

One only offers a pardon or sentence reduction IN EXCHANGE for usable information! (Well, one does if only one is NOT a commie-lib: Looking at you, DoJ!)

NO pardon, accept him conceding, then throw the book at him. And his side-ho' too! And their aides and money-suppliers! NOT A ONE of the did not know fully and sign on completely to participate in those high crimes and misdemeanors!

Weak men lead to hard times. Don't let the conservative inc. decades sap your strength now -- as the final battle is in sight!!

Blogger Davesandman January 03, 2021 2:13 PM  

I read on Gateway Pundit that it was canceled because they think it would turn into a MAGA rally. Sounds more reasonable

Blogger SecondComingOfBast January 03, 2021 2:13 PM  

Sadly, and unfortunately, I'm afraid there's no way in hell Biden is going to concede. I say this mainly because his "backers" (aka controllers) will never give him permission to do so even if he has the good common sense (he does not) to know this is the right and proper thing to do. They will fight to the bitter end. Why not? They have the entire DS apparatus on their side, including the establishment media.

Neither Biden nor his controllers believe Trump will take it to the point he should take it, of martial law, mass arrests and military tribunals. Trump himself knows this could result in civil war. And does he know for sure he can solidly count on the military in such a scenario?

Besides, while Trump may be amenable to comparisons with Julius Caesar, he might not so easily welcome such comparisons to Tiberius. Or Sejanus. Even though such actions as those two gentlemen took in their day imho would be justified if taken by Trump now.

Blogger GeoBear January 03, 2021 2:14 PM  

Are there any Vegas odds for a concession? There were pretty nice continuous odds for a while of a Trump victory...

Blogger The Observer January 03, 2021 2:18 PM  

Traditional is exile I believe.

That was for a time when putting distance between a person and his power base meant he couldn't do much. Hasn't worked for more than a century.

Blogger LoneWolf January 03, 2021 2:19 PM  

@77 van helsing: "...the decision on concede or not belongs to their handlers..."

Spot on. And "their handlers" are members of a relatively small, tightly-knot ethnic group that has a venomous hatred of the goyim. Historically, this group has demonstrated for the last 20 centuries a cocky tenacity that is only overcome when an awakened goyim finally has had enough of (((their))) machinations and brings the hammer down on (((them))). It's only THEN that (((they))) head for the nearest exit out of harm's way.

Blogger JM January 03, 2021 2:22 PM  

Why hasn't the intelligence report on foreign interference in the election be published? Seems like that should have forced a concession.

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 2:30 PM  

If can't recognize a hypothetical scenario then I can't help you. The concession by impairment is far more probable than Biden getting perp walked in the current political climate. I would love to see but if Hillary didn't get indicted in 2016, then neither will Joe which is also why the run for office. Candidacy is used as a political shield. That is what needs to be stopped.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz January 03, 2021 2:31 PM  



https://youtu.be/NgE0jVgQU1Y

Blogger By the crease of his pants January 03, 2021 2:31 PM  

You have to be kidding? Biden a patriot? He has sold his soul and you think he cares about what happens to the USA?

Blogger Dave W. January 03, 2021 2:32 PM  

No. They always double down.

Blogger Tom January 03, 2021 2:33 PM  

@92 How do we know the President hasn't shared its contents with the Biden camp so they realize the jig is up and need to decide how they'll end this - a quiet concession or mucho arrests?

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 2:35 PM  

Biden is a pedocrat. NSA and Trump have the goods on him, whether Epstein is alive or not.

He will be offered an "honorable" exit.

"And especially these most sadly lost

He trained as bait for the blackmail traps

To which he led his abased satraps

For decades before any pretense

Of justice was made, the evidence

With his agents evanescing as ever,

The distracted public eye glazed over."

http://forthesonsofthewest.home.blog

Blogger MarGitta January 03, 2021 2:42 PM  

Punishment must start at the bottom. Just like climbing a ladder. You will get to the top. One rung at a time.

Blogger MarGitta January 03, 2021 2:45 PM  

Follow the $$$ and who, EXACTLY, is speaking.

Blogger cecilhenry January 03, 2021 2:49 PM  

It would be great if Biden conceded.

But I find it hard to believe people this corrupt, this arrogantly defiant and criminal, would ever concede.

Its not in the nature of such people. They have no conscience. And they would fear the consequences of giving up even an inch.

Blogger doctrev January 03, 2021 2:49 PM  

The War God's Face Has Become Indistinct. Total war will be far more total than seen in WWII, even from a European perspective.

It's no wonder people want to stop the war, but it's coming anyways.

Blogger MarGitta January 03, 2021 2:56 PM  

This opinion actually makes some sense. For lots of reasons.

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 2:56 PM  

I think some of the posters alluding to the need for a narrative are most likely correct. Watch for the MSM to start floating narratives for Biden concession or alluding to it at least. That will be the sign. Otherwise, it's Miller time...as in Chris Miller.

Blogger Hammerli 280 January 03, 2021 3:00 PM  

@87: I could easily see Biden's inauguration turning into a MAGA rally. Complete with the chants of, "Not Our President!"

Which would be a delight to see.

Blogger JaimeInTexas January 03, 2021 3:05 PM  

@90
Napoleon
Santa Ana
Exile to Japan might work.

Blogger Uncle John's Band January 03, 2021 3:05 PM  

"Sadly, and unfortunately... [blathering]"

Let go of your ankles, stand up, and find something positive to do with the time remaining.

Blogger Brian D. Kennedy January 03, 2021 3:07 PM  

The single most important practical and symbolic fact regarding the presidential succession is, who receives the launch codes? I don't see our military (compromised though it is) handing those over to a known foreign asset/agent. Anyone else here know how that aspect of the system works? A related question is whether the Department of Defense resumes transition briefings after the "holiday break."

Blogger Akulkis January 03, 2021 3:08 PM  

>> Biden and Harris likely had the election stolen for them-but not by them- so a pardon for conceding might not be a bad idea and although they are bad actors they are by far not the worst.

"We have set up the biggest election fraud organization in history" -- Joe Biden, on camera, October 2020.

Blogger Delaware Blue Hen January 03, 2021 3:10 PM  

@56
Forgot to add that today is the anniversary of Joyce's execution in 1946.

Blogger Fat Bobz January 03, 2021 3:18 PM  

Bingo!!

Blogger Akulkis January 03, 2021 3:18 PM  

>> I will point out that the United Nations is making noise that the Blackwater pardons break "international law" and are a "war crime".

I don't think Trump is going to allow them to Milosevic him.

Blogger Beery Swine January 03, 2021 3:25 PM  

Vox, you probably won't respond to this, but I at least need to get this out right now.
How do you respond to friends and family who are otherwise right wing and seemingly intelligent yet can't see how unlikely either a Biden or Harris inauguration is? They literally think they are 100% correct, and that it's time to abandon "the system" (the latter part which I agree with anyways, but for different reasons)? Like they don't even look at mainstream news, they watch some righty jewtubers (not sure exactly which, but they must be black pilled as fuck), yet they really think /pol/ is nothing but spergs and autists and no news is ever early dropped there, and every point I bring up, such as Trump's EO, the fraud precedent of "a single drop spoils the whole batch" concept, Trump declaring an election emergency which we're still under, the IA, the fact that Trump is still POTUS and still in command of the Secret Service and military . . . .
Seriously, what in the fuck can convince a black piller that they're wrong, when everything you show them they just "oh, but Biden probably only cancelled his parade because of CORONU" and "the DOD not speaking with the Biden team doesn't mean anything per se" non-stop at every single point?!
Why are some people IN LOVE WITH the fucking black pill? I just don't get it.

Blogger van helsing January 03, 2021 3:27 PM  

91, too shay

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 03, 2021 3:37 PM  

"Particularly the part about whether fraud justifies violence as a political expression and reaction."

It's not just the fraud, it's also the treason, and during war time that's a death sentence.

" I'll take that definition of 'victory', thanks."

The problem is the "England" part, not the victory part. England didn't defeat Hitler, its allies did.

"That was for a time when putting distance between a person and his power base meant he couldn't do much."

Can't be a seated political puppet if you literally can't be placed in the seat. Then, we don't even have to bother killing them, their puppeteers will see to it, or pass it on down the line to even pettier executioners of opportunity.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash January 03, 2021 3:40 PM  

Beery Swine wrote:Why are some people IN LOVE WITH the fucking black pill? I just don't get it.
They are afraid.
Afraid their comfortable life will change.
Afraid they'll be called viscious nasty names.
Afraid that once again, they will put themselves on the line to support a Republican, only to be sold out and abandoned.
Afraid to get their hopes up.
Afraid that it will all end in war, chaos and bloodshed.


So long as their news sources tell them everything's normal, they will continue to believe it, because they want to believe it.
You cannot argue a man out of an opinion he was not argued into.

So stop trying to argue them out of their feelings. It won't work. Dialectic never works. They will change their attitude when the feelings change. Their feelings will change when the situation changes.

Blogger Johnny January 03, 2021 3:41 PM  

Other then revenge, there isn't much reason to go after Biden. He may be the lead man, but given age, ability, and condition, he is not the master mind of this, if indeed there is one. The important players are his collection of supporters, one of which is probably China. Those are the people who need to be punished. At the least it needs to be career ending, and a little jail time would be a great bonus.

Blogger Rick January 03, 2021 3:50 PM  

It’s easy. They’ve spent their whole lives being disappointed by politicians. They don’t know anything else. Meanwhile, they’ve had to learn how to survive in that paradigm. Put food on the table, compete for resources, when in Rome etc., day after day.
Fish have heard rumors of dry land. But it never happens. Entertaining that fantasy doesn’t put food on the table.
Doesn’t matter what they think, really. Trump holds all the cards, nothing is in his way, and they’ll get used to the new paradigm, enjoy it, and soon forget all about the ocean.

Blogger SonyAD January 03, 2021 3:53 PM  

A concession would be an admission of the fraud on their end. That's why I don't think they'll concede. They're going for broke and hoping Trump or enough republicans and institutions, including the VP, will buckle and try and ram the fraud through.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 03, 2021 3:56 PM  

"Seriously, what in the fuck can convince a black piller that they're wrong"

There are two kinds of blackpillers, one of them is schizoid/paranoid/pathologically melancholic, doesn't like it either but is hopelessly fixated on it like an addict, the other just takes pleasure in destroying other peoples' happiness and/or hope. Often blackpillers are a mix of both, or delude themselves into believing that they're the other one.

Type one is caught in a sort of negative feedback loop that only has a chance of breaking if it encounters a real negative signal. Type two will continue as long as they keep getting more lulz out of it than retaliation.

TL;DR: The only thing that can convince them is when actual pain overawes their blues.

Blogger Damelon Brinn January 03, 2021 3:56 PM  

I don't believe they'll ever admit there was significant fraud on their side.

I think they would try to blame error rather than fraud, if possible. Blame glitches, typos, misunderstood laws, whatever it takes, to flip enough votes in 3-4 states, and they can concede to a narrow Trump win without admitting to the entire body of fraud. And Biden and all the Democrats/media would be able to maintain that they honestly thought they'd won, so they weren't being traitors and committing fraud.

That seems like it would be their first dodge if forced to concede, unless they were forced to go further.

Biden conceding for reasons of health wouldn't work. If done after the victory is certified for Biden/Harris, Harris would just become the president-elect in his place. If done before that, it's more complicated, but it wouldn't automatically hand it to Trump.

Blogger Rick January 03, 2021 3:57 PM  

I don’t think it will be as bad as some envision. I was at the dump today (southeastern CT). 30 males there, and 29 of them dutifully wearing masks. Outdoors of course, and we never wore them pre-COVID at this place of open dumpsters of god knows what disgusting filth. In other words, one could argue in the sense of masks pre-COVID. Never saw one back then in the good ol days of 10 months ago.
These (at least) are not fighting men. These are roll-overs.

Blogger Crew January 03, 2021 3:58 PM  

@114: I see you are French!

Blogger Redneckian January 03, 2021 3:59 PM  

@23
But they were aware and they agreed. I know they're puppets for higher powers, but they should be held accountable for going along with the fraud.

Blogger Redneckian January 03, 2021 4:01 PM  

@31
As well as: Hunter Biden, Adam Schiff, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Hillary Rodham, James Comey, John Brennan, and a host of others.....

Blogger OMGDwayne January 03, 2021 4:04 PM  

Well the system has finally been completely destroyed by the Left regardless of what happens. We can no longer "work with" Leftist (((parasites and traitors))) and their foot soldiers. Our best hope is a right-wing coupe of some description that utterly voids the stolen Leftist victories. Then we build something new that totally disenfranchises and deports the enemies of Whites. Only a White population can rebuild civilization.

Blogger Redneckian January 03, 2021 4:06 PM  

@42 You get it. The left plays by no rules even as it demands all others follow its rules and precepts and beliefs and ideology. The left's foot soldiers are oblivious to the hypocrisy of their position; the leaders are not - and they don't care. They're all about power, so consistency is irrelevant to them (although victory and power are not).

Blogger Boaty Bear January 03, 2021 4:08 PM  

Correct, as someone said, i forget who,
"People hold the position they took when they felt their most scared"

For the retards who still believe in Covid1984..

That was in March!

Blogger LoneWolf January 03, 2021 4:10 PM  

Read Solzhenitsyn's "Two Hundred Years Among Us." If Biden (Harris) becomes pres then the same thing will happen to the goyim in THIS country as happened to the Russian goys under the (((Bolsheviks))), and that's because the (((string pullers))) here are the very same as the (((string pullers))) in 1917 Russia. Lists will be made of "reactionaries" and then visits to their homes will begin. They will be loaded up and sent off, not to return, ever. No one will escape---not even the goys who made a point of keeping their mouths shut while the takedown of the nation was underway (which is happening right NOW, BTW). They will be exterminated, too. It will be too late, then, to do anything about it. We will be finished. Literally.

Blogger van helsing January 03, 2021 4:15 PM  

123 just like to have fun with language etc at times / perpetual blackpillers are lazy and uninspirable.

Blogger SCBen January 03, 2021 4:17 PM  

Given his mental state, would ANYTHING he agreed to be considered LEGAL and BINDING?

Blogger Gregory the Tall January 03, 2021 4:18 PM  

France where to lose is a city...

Blogger cecilhenry January 03, 2021 4:19 PM  

This is definitely interesting, and promising:


Biden Has Cancelled Inaugural Parade, 3439


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8j221vMij8

Anonymous Anonymous January 03, 2021 4:22 PM  

Is it me or is there a change in rhetoric on the public stage?

Some people herein aren't considering some things previously discussed: the now free lands of Britain proves the Deep State is fallible. Question: are the Deep State apparati so strong that their hold over Biden prevents him from concession?

Inevitably, Trump'll win. Biden working out an exit-plan w Trump admin is the only thing he can do.. the longer Biden doesn't concede the more risk he puts on his own life as he's hemmed in between two prominent forces: the US Populace and the Deep State.

One thing's for sure, should the Deep State even catch a whiff of concession on his ass, threats on his life by the Deep State would likely prove to be substantial (I'm not Deep State nor am I making the threat).

Biden and associates, if you're reading this - I implore your man to quickly concede and just as quickly divulge all the information he has to the proper authorities... Biden, one thing you may NOT be is free, perhaps in a jail cell with a few amenities. But you'll be alive and more importantly able to read the bible, with whatever mental faculties remain, and thusly more able to repent your disgusting and treasonous self unto Jesus Christ!

Blogger Dan in Georgia January 03, 2021 4:26 PM  

“Such a pity that Trump's not a ∑, that's a movie I'd pay to see.....”

People mistake sigmas for alphas all the time. Trump comes off as an obvious alpha, but I could see a case for him actually being a sigma. His “The Donald” persona isn’t the real Trump. He’s a more complex guy than that.

Blogger Dan in Georgia January 03, 2021 4:29 PM  

I could accept Biden’s exile to a small corner of Cuba...

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 4:33 PM  

@121 Precisely. That would be a good example of a palatable narrative for concession and much more probable in my opinion in my opinion. That said, I do agree that those who enabled Biden need to be punished and serve as public examples which might include Kameltoe herself.

Blogger Dan in Georgia January 03, 2021 4:37 PM  

Warren Wilhelm aka Bill deBlasio is already running down the real estate prices to 1970s “Death Wish” levels. That commie could unwittingly be working to sell the entire island to the Trump, Inc for pennies in the dollar.

Blogger Charles Martel January 03, 2021 4:38 PM  

The fact that the election was likely stolen from Trump is irrelevant. Biden will be the next President and Trump will fold as he has very consistently done for the past 4 years [and if you count on Pence to "save the day" then you need to learn how to predict future behavior based on past actions].

Blogger Darwin is a Harsh Mistress January 03, 2021 4:38 PM  

Late to the comments -- gotta be fast !

Regarding Biden's public hanging vs concession-confession:

I don't care about Biden. He is an Irish mobster overboss.

OTOH, Obama and the Klintons are pure unmitigated evil and must be destroyed utterly. Hanging may not be good enough, thinking "Purification by Pain" before a tortuous execution like in the Good Old Days of Merrie Olde England.

Blogger Jeff January 03, 2021 4:49 PM  

Given the tape of the Georgia phone call, I don't really see where this confidence is coming from.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 03, 2021 4:58 PM  

Martel? Like a real Hammer or more like a Little Tykes Hammer?

Blogger My Shield Is Disgust January 03, 2021 4:59 PM  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/audio-trumps-full-jan-2-call-with-ga-secretary-of-state/2021/01/03/3f9426f4-7937-4718-8a8e-9d6052001991_video.html

The last olive branch.

Blogger Kristophr January 03, 2021 5:00 PM  

urthshu wrote:>>maybe a pardon, but jail instead of execution

Traditional is exile I believe.


Same deal Pinochet gave the communists in Chile. Exile yourself or get a helicopter ride. Every exposed communist who called the Swedish Embassy and got himself and his crap sent to Sweden was allowed and even helped to leave.

Anonymous Anonymous January 03, 2021 5:05 PM  

@138 - I think London Breed is doing the same thing in San Francisco.

Blogger CynicalMan January 03, 2021 5:05 PM  

Wishful thinking. Criminals hardly ever confess to their crimes.

Blogger Akulkis January 03, 2021 5:05 PM  

>> Can't be a seated political puppet if you literally can't be placed in the seat. Then, we don't even have to bother killing them, their puppeteers will see to it, or pass it on down the line to even pettier executioners of opportunity.

Who the fuck cares. You've never heard of the international telephone network or the internet.

STOP cucking and looking for excuses to let absolute enemies of humanity live even one hour after conviction.

The Rumanians knew how to take care of Ceausescu and his vile wife. WTF is your major malfunction?

Blogger Caleo January 03, 2021 5:17 PM  

The Washington Post has just released the audio and the transcript of a call Trump made to the Georgia Secretary of State supposedly demanding the SoS find some more votes for Trump because Trump won.

It looks and sounds horrible, and perennial pantywaist Rod Dreher has breathlessly posted about it, claiming this proves Trump is as bad as his enemies make him out to be.

When is Trump going to pull the trigger on these shameless bastards?

How much more BS do decent Americans have to put up with?

Blogger Straitsfan January 03, 2021 5:21 PM  

No matter what happens, imho there will be some civil conflict either way. I don't think the Biden robots will let this one go and just walk home. What happened in the summer will be nothing compared to what they'll do now. If Biden were to get in, then the other side will have no choice as the commies tighten their grip and solidify their power, or at least try to.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother January 03, 2021 5:42 PM  

Mommy and Daddy didn't show h9m enough attention

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 5:49 PM  

@143 Right. He's putting them on notice quite clearly. Now, if one is looking it from the other side of the Overton window, then one might see it as desperate. It's not though...he's giving them one last warning in my opinion. They're refusing the olive branch. Bad idea.

Blogger teslawasframed January 03, 2021 5:51 PM  

"No one likes a quitter, not even Satan."

That's a great line.

Blogger Avalanche January 03, 2021 6:13 PM  

@117 "Other then revenge, there isn't much reason to go after Biden. He may be the lead man, but given age, ability, and condition, he is not the master mind of this, if indeed there is one."

I don't GET this!

So can you just 'age-out' of legit punishment for high crimes such as treason? I kinda like the idea of digging up the corpse and punishing it a second time!

Why are so many of you making EXCUSES for this and, by extension, all the other traitors? "Oh he's old and demented, no point in punishing him." So you deny justice to the people he has injured and destroyed? Because he's old and demented -- and it might look bad for you? Not all the victims are old or demented.

Biden blatantly blackmailed Ukraine, and then bragged about it... But, "he's old now, so it's okay"? He stole literally millions of dollars from a variety of countries to the injury of OUR country, but... "Well, he's old and we won't even make him give back the money"? Hey! Here's the thought: the national debt could sure use some o' that cash!

Y'all gonna let Hillary off too? She only killed HOW many? But "she's old, so let her keep her ill-gotten gains and, well, too bad, really, for the FAMILIES she destroyed; but she's old and sick... so let her live out unmolested." Really? Oh, and writing of molested -- what about those kids who were raped and tortured?

I don't get it.

Blogger JWM in SD January 03, 2021 6:17 PM  

@141 You do realize that the WAPO chopped 56 minutes out of 60 minute call right?! Mr. Raffensperger was officially put on notice. Oh well...

Blogger Ken Prescott January 03, 2021 6:20 PM  

The single most important practical and symbolic fact regarding the presidential succession is, who receives the launch codes? I don't see our military (compromised though it is) handing those over to a known foreign asset/agent. Anyone else here know how that aspect of the system works? A related question is whether the Department of Defense resumes transition briefings after the "holiday break."

Bottom line: the guy at 1600 is the Commander in Chief. He has the launch codes.

About the only thing that Trump could do if he accedes to Biden being inaugurated is to give very liberal predelegation to the unified and specified commanders...and order all concerned to NOT tell their successors. But that would be a band-aid on a severed limb.

Blogger Avalanche January 03, 2021 6:20 PM  

!129 " It will be too late, then, to do anything about it."

?? Why? Have you given up your guns already? I haven't. Most of us here haven't. If you've READ Solzhenitsyn's "Two Hundred Years Among Us," then you must remember his "how we burned in the camps" bit? WE are not going to answer the knock on the door and go along quietly. We're likely to not let our neighbors go along quietly and unobserved either.

If THEY start the war, WE will finish it!

Blogger Unknown January 03, 2021 7:33 PM  

I don't get it either Avalanche. I used to be way more forgiving. I didn't understand in my youth and niavete how the saved souls in heaven could be looking down laughing with sheer glee and joy at the torments of the damned in hell in those medieval paintings......

... I've understood for almost two decades now and it has only ramped up enormously over the last five years.

Blogger dienw January 03, 2021 7:39 PM  

@113
Seriously, what in the fuck can convince a black piller that they're wrong
Nothing can, it is a spiritual condition.

Blogger LoneWolf January 03, 2021 7:53 PM  

Hear hear! Avalanche. That's the kind of balls I'm talkin' about!

Blogger Edjamacator January 03, 2021 8:07 PM  

Johnny wrote:Other then revenge, there isn't much reason to go after Biden. He may be the lead man, but given age, ability, and condition, he is not the master mind of this, if indeed there is one.

Really? When he's pumped up with enough drugs to be in pretty much his right mind, what do you think he's doing? Thinking about ways to fix everything and get the truth out? Thinking about reasons to confess to Trump all that has gone down and do his part to expose the fraud?

Ah, jes' lettum go.

Blogger Bezzle January 03, 2021 9:25 PM  

@73. Azure Amaranthine January 03, 2021 1:36 PM
...people who can't be reformed don't merit prison.... I don't believe they'll ever admit there was significant fraud on their side. First, because they're all complicit. Second, because even if they aren't complicit, they're firmly convinced it was the right thing to do. They most they will do is to go silent and pretend nothing ever happened, while they prepare to do "nothing" all over again next round twice as hard.

It's primal nature inherent to the gamma-qua-alpha-adelphoparasite: They are genetically hard-coded to never apologize for being what they are and doing what they so, and so double-down by instinct. Only when a tick's ass is on fire will it withdraw its head and attempt to flee. Even then, it will never confess to being a tick; its amygdala won't allow it.

If they're not being killed, then their strategy of eternal patience and grinding down is working.

Do you see them being killed?

@148. Caleo January 03, 2021 5:17 PM
When is Trump going to pull the trigger on these shameless bastards? How much more BS do decent Americans have to put up with?

More, regrettably, since they're not revolting yet. See above.


@90. The Observer January 03, 2021 2:18 PM
(Exile) was for a time when putting distance between a person and his power base meant he couldn't do much. Hasn't worked for more than a century.

The very concept of "exile" in the social-media age, when they will continue heckling from half the world away from behind a blue-checkmark, is ludicrous. Anybody here even briefly contemplating it has a sloping forehead in need of more quality concrete wall time.

@144. Kristophr January 03, 2021 5:00 PM
Same deal Pinochet gave the communists in Chile. Exile yourself or get a helicopter ride. Every exposed communist who called the Swedish Embassy and got himself and his crap sent to Sweden was allowed and even helped to leave.

--And how did THAT turn out for Pinochet in the end?

As Bolsonaro retorted when some reporter whined about Latin American extrajudicial execution of communists, "We didn't kill enough!"

Chile's so-labeled "dirty war" took seventeen years to kill or "disappear" a measly 3,000 commies, which divides to a per-year number lower than Washington D.C.'s murder-rate.

Pinochet was a softy.


@99. MarGitta January 03, 2021 2:42 PM
Punishment must start at the bottom. Just like climbing a ladder. You will get to the top. One rung at a time.

Bullshit. Stuffing the bug-zapper with expendable minions until it shorts out is how TPTB have always gotten away with it. (And so much the better if timed during periods of prison overcrowding and underfunding so as to quickly be back out on the streets.)

This time, you need to start right at the top, and televise the executions on seized legacy-media so no MSNBC-glued cat-lady can avoid it.


@100. MarGitta January 03, 2021 2:45 PM
Follow the $$$ and who, EXACTLY, is speaking

"Follow the money" only gets you to designated (and replaceable) bagmen, not the top orchestrators.


@108. Brian D. Kennedy January 03, 2021 3:07 PM
The single most important practical and symbolic fact regarding the presidential succession is, who receives the launch codes? I don't see our military (compromised though it is) handing those over to a known foreign asset/agent.

You're using "our military" as an ambiguous-collective term. "Our military" was content to let Frank Marshall Davis, Jr. handle the launch-codes for eight years, and Moscow Bill for eight years back in the 90s.

You're "cherishing the zombie".

Blogger Ozymandius January 03, 2021 10:09 PM  

How about if he slso fully cooperates in the prosecution of the Clintons and Obama's and the others involved? No pardon, just no death penalty.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 03, 2021 10:11 PM  

"Other then revenge, there isn't much reason to go after Biden."

Try justice.

"Who the fuck cares. You've never heard of the international telephone network or the internet."

Try reading what I wrote again. If Harris, for example, couldn't re-enter the country, she can't occupy a seat in congress. Neither telephones or internet are going to help someone who has to be physically present to be useful as a figurehead. They are then useless to their masters, and probably would not survive long.

"STOP cucking and looking for excuses to let absolute enemies of humanity live even one hour after conviction."

You're mistaking me for someone a lot less bloody minded. Poetic justice is the best kind, and for that you have to be more selective of who gets what. For instance, the whore might get exile. Stripped of possessions and connections, back to the whorehouse, but not in this country. Execution would be more merciful.

"WTF is your major malfunction?"

Having enough patience to not look like a jackass on the edge of a purity spiral, apparently. Calm down, some dishes are best served cold.

Blogger Ozymandius January 03, 2021 10:24 PM  

CM, your predictive douchebaggery is a skill only admired by your inflatable non-gender specific wife. Go forth and fornicate thyself. 🖕

Blogger Ozymandius January 03, 2021 10:35 PM  

I'm with you on the punishing a second time for what these people did. Old or not! Dig up the corpse, run it through a wood chipper, rototill their remains back into the soil, plant trees, and then name it "Traitors Grove".

Blogger Akulkis January 03, 2021 11:20 PM  

Exile just allows them to mentor someone else.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 03, 2021 11:36 PM  

Bezzle wrote:You're using "our military" as an ambiguous-collective term. "Our military" was content to let Frank Marshall Davis, Jr. handle the launch-codes for eight years, and Moscow Bill for eight years back in the 90s.
I do not ever expect to see our military act against domestic enemies, unless it's a Bonus Army situation, where the real domestic enemies sic them on fake enemies.

If Trump allows China Joe to take over, the US military will become a wholly-owned subsidiary of the PLA, and the officers will remain loyal - to their pensions.

Blogger Akulkis January 03, 2021 11:50 PM  

>> Try reading what I wrote again. If Harris, for example, couldn't re-enter the country, she can't occupy a seat in congress. Neither telephones or internet are going to help someone who has to be physically present to be useful as a figurehead. They are then useless to their masters, and probably would not survive long.

So Harris hangs out in Japan or wherever, living high on the hog for as long as the cabal supports her to assure the puppets that if they get caught, they'll still live a comfortable life. And then Harris tweets on about endorsiy her hand picked successor. And nothing changybecause everyone who is in the bag for Harris will vote for Heels-Up2: Electric Boogaloo.

How is that a win for our side?

Blogger Azimus January 04, 2021 12:14 AM  

I wonder if the dems think this all just goes away January 20? Do they have any plan, any plan at all? Or is the "head in sand" supposed to be their winning strategy here? Its not a race, really it isn't. January 6 is coming soon, and of course we would like the truth to reign on January 20th, but even if it doesn't... do they honestly think they can just cover their eyes and shout "la la la"? Is that their strategy?

I expect war with Russia might be their strategy - I'm seeing more and more "Russian Cyber Attacks Scary-Bad" articles which, as you know was Hillary's ginned up excuse for going to war since Hitler already took the "they attacked our radio station" idea she had earlier...

Blogger map January 04, 2021 1:45 AM  

Bezzle wrote:As Bolsonaro retorted when some reporter whined about Latin American extrajudicial execution of communists, "We didn't kill enough!"

Chile's so-labeled "dirty war" took seventeen years to kill or "disappear" a measly 3,000 commies, which divides to a per-year number lower than Washington D.C.'s murder-rate.

Pinochet was a softy.


Pinochet imprisoned 250,000 people.

That was the problem.

Blogger crescent wrench January 04, 2021 3:03 AM  

Azimus wrote:I expect war with Russia might be their strategy

One can only hope.
I don't buy RT's propaganda, but the fact remains Russia excels in air defense while US military doctrine is paralyzed if air superiority is not achieved. It will be an embarrassing slap to neocon idiots if they try it.

Blogger Akulkis January 04, 2021 4:43 AM  

War with Russia... that's as likely as a war with France.

Outside of the Cold War, the Russians (As opposed to (((The Soviet Union)))) have been out best supporters.

In 1775, King George III asked for Russian troops to do garrison duty in Canada so as to free up British troops to be used against the nacent united States. Catherine the Great's reply is said to have been very ungracious. Although Russia didn't formally recognize the U.S. during the war for independence, they were the first to throw in support.

It was Russian support which opened Paris to giving Ben Franklin an audience, and the badly needed purchases of French muskets, cannons and howitzers were heavily subsidized by covert Russian payments to the French.

Catherine also admired the sentiment of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution be (but similar reforms couldn't be pushed through the nobility until her grandson was on the throne).

After the war, Admiral John Paul Jones went to Russia and founded the Russian Navy, and he is still held in high regard.

During the War of 1812, while Napoleon was invading Russia, Catherine's son had the Russian fleet patrolling the American coast, harassing the Royal Navy.

When the Russians wanted to sell Alaska, why didn't they go to the most logical purchaser -- the Canadians (British)? Instead, they sent the purchase offer to President McKinley, who jumped on it.

The Russians admire the U.S. For the last 100 years, the under utilized and vast resources of Siberia are summed up in two of words: New America.

When I visited Russia in the late 1990s, the most popular political personality was (and I believe still is): Ronald Reagan.

And truth be told, if they could do so without being separated from their families, most Russians would pick up and move here in a heartbeat -- specially their women, as they see American men as superior husbands.

We have far more to fear from Mexico than from Russia.

Now that (((Commies))) aren't contr

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 04, 2021 4:54 AM  

"So Harris hangs out in Japan or wherever, living high on the hog for as long as the cabal supports her to assure the puppets that if they get caught, they'll still live a comfortable life."

Why on earth would the cabal reward useless puppets for failure? They wouldn't. They might assure them that they do such things, but they don't.

"And nothing changybecause everyone who is in the bag for Harris"

Which, without election fraud, and with her exposed, disgraced, without money or connections... is who again? She's a puppet, she doesn't have real grassroots supporters, only fairweather voting retards and voter fraud.

Blogger The Observer January 04, 2021 4:59 AM  

Exile just allows them to mentor someone else.

Or they just make a return with fresh funding from their puppet masters and get the job done the next time, as the Tsar found out.

Pinochet imprisoned 250,000 people.

People used to know that prison never solved anything or changed anyone's mind, and should know it today from the recidivism rates.

Blogger Akulkis January 04, 2021 5:01 AM  

As for rumors of the Russian Pacific fleet joining with the Chinese to help assist the Biden coup... The Russian Navy isn't built for offensive operations (i.e. supporting amphibious operations, or even transoceanic logistics routes). It's built to defeat a navy attacking friendly shores.

As such, I can see Putin signing on to a joint strike force with the Chinese... and at the first sign of Chinese aggression, using their superior anti-ship capabilities (as compared to Chinese knock-offs of Russian export versions) to simultaneously help defeat their greatest adversary (China), and greatly strengthen ties with the U.S.

While not 100% guaranteed, it's far more likely than helping China grow stronger. Also, the Russians know that the Chinese have no capability to land troops without a port to dock a troop ship at, as the Chinese have no amphibious landing capability.

Being on the losing side of a failed attempt to land Chinese troops in sufficient numbers to overthrow a government which is neutral to Moscow and hostile to Beijing, to help install a government in Washington that would be friendly to Beijing and hostile to Moscow just doesn't make any sense.

Blogger The Last Roman January 04, 2021 5:52 AM  

God Emperor Trump should punish the entire establishment. The slaves marching toward execution in His triumph should include politicians, judges, reporters, academics, and members of Big Tech.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 04, 2021 7:43 AM  

I'm not opposed to lining them all up and shooting them each in the back of the head, however, I don't see it happening. Maybe in a few more years, shortly before witch burning comes back in vogue.

Blogger Beery Swine January 04, 2021 7:46 AM  

dienw wrote:@113

Seriously, what in the fuck can convince a black piller that they're wrong

Nothing can, it is a spiritual condition.

Yes, I believe you are probably right.

Rick wrote:It’s easy. They’ve spent their whole lives being disappointed by politicians. They don’t know anything else. Meanwhile, they’ve had to learn how to survive in that paradigm. Put food on the table, compete for resources, when in Rome etc., day after day.

Crazy thing about that is I'm 38 and over a decade older than the friends in question. You'd think I'd be the more jaded and doom and gloom one. Maybe they just lack the longer history of politics and the country that I've seen for comparison of how completely different things are now from 4 years ago.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 04, 2021 8:55 AM  

map wrote:Pinochet imprisoned 250,000 people.

That was the problem.

Prison is expensive and doesn't solve the problem of traitors and commies.
Bullets are cheap, and solve those problems.

Blogger MrNiceguy January 04, 2021 10:13 PM  

I could really see an end where Biden concedes in exchange for pardons for himself and Hunter, and fingers Horizontal Harris for the whole caper.

From a narrative perspective, it really works. Who wouldn't believe she's power-hungry enough to orchestrate a massive election theft, and that he was oblivious enough to not realize it was happening?

Blogger Bezzle January 04, 2021 11:06 PM  

@167. Ominous Cowherd January 03, 2021 11:36 PM
Bezzle wrote: You're using "our military" as an ambiguous-collective term. "Our military" was content to let Frank Marshall Davis, Jr. handle the launch-codes for eight years, and Moscow Bill for eight years back in the 90s.

...If Trump allows China Joe to take over, the US military will become a wholly-owned subsidiary of the PLA, and the officers will remain loyal - to their pensions.

As I indicated, it's been a wholly-owned subsidiary for a very long time. The only thing that's changed is the surface identity of the commie bagmen (China now, as opposed to earlier Soviet and amorphous United Nations layers of obfuscating ablative armor).

@170. map January 04, 2021 1:45 AM
Bezzle wrote: As Bolsonaro retorted when some reporter whined about Latin American extrajudicial execution of communists, "We didn't kill enough!"

Pinochet imprisoned 250,000 people. That was the problem.

Exactly. He didn't know what he was doing.

@179. Ominous Cowherd January 04, 2021 8:55 AM
Prison is expensive and doesn't solve the problem of traitors and commies. Bullets are cheap, and solve those problems.

The bullets are cheap, but the *optics* of massacres are far more expensive than prisons.

Demolishing the existing system (which had belately worked in that the country's military was formally beseeched to remove Allende by the Chilean legislature) to replace it with a fascist junta (which continued that cancerous practice of state-funded schooling, the fever-dream of all socialists) was just, plain stupid, and predictably ended up creating more commies than there were originally.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine January 05, 2021 5:11 AM  

"the *optics* of massacres are far more expensive"

Only if the opticians don't share the lead. Mass execution is not massacre, and anyone who says different needs a bullet too.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd January 05, 2021 12:49 PM  

Bezzle wrote:The bullets are cheap, but the *optics* of massacres are far more expensive than prisons.
Optics don't matter. If you won't get violent, your opinion doesn't matter, and the normie masses whose opinions you are worried about won't get violent. Ultimately, only violence decides anything.

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