Vox Popoli: Less crazy than it sounds

Rest assured that I don't expect anyone who isn't already familiar with this sort of thing to believe it in any way, shape or form. And at this point, you shouldn't. I highly recommend not taking any of this seriously at the moment, but simply adding it to your general knowledge base in much the same way as you happen to be familiar with The Lord of the Rings or Watership Down. Think of it as a metaphor, or, if you prefer, a palindrome. But in light of all of the post-election anomalies, it might serve you well as a useful conceptual reference point for interpreting events in the future that you happen to find inexplicable.

In 1871 a sedious act was performed by the Government. A coup was made to rewrite the constitution and put WE THE PEOPLE in all capitals, under a new corporate contract transferring the United States of America into the new Corporation of the United States of America which transferred the power of We The People and the constitution over to the new corporation. When they did that, it placed the citizens in the United States as property of the Corporation which was centered in Washington D.C.. This action made Washington D.C. a FOREIGN ENTITY on American soil of sovereign states. It was established through a loan from the Vatican when D.C. was transferred into a city-state, and this corporate entity then ruled over the people. Citizens rights were taken from them in this process. No one realized this.
When they did the broker deal to get the loan from the Vatican, they did so via the Bank of London. At that time, they transferred all the property in D.C. Columbia over to the Corporate entity of D.C. a foreign corporation.
The forming of this corporation in D.C. is of major importance to understand, for when President Trump signed an executive order in 2018 on Election Interference/Fraud for entities both foreign and domestic, it outlined how assetts would be seized. The President and the people knew and had the proof that a coup transpired out of the Corporation of the United States of America along with other foreign nations and was ignored by the Corporation in D.C.. They continued with their illegal steal, and the military is now in the process of seizing the assets of this foreign country known as THE CORPORATION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. It appears that President Trump’s executive order was actually directed at the Washington D.C. corporate swamp/cabal all along. D.C. is now walled in and filled with military guard.

Never forget that things are seldom as they appear at any given moment. This is true of absolutely everything, from a simple running play in an NFL game to international conflicts.

Labels: freakshow, history, rumors

202 Comments:

jmg January 23, 2021 8:09 AM: sounds like the works of maxwell jordan and david icke
Charmaine January 23, 2021 8:10 AM: It looks like military is clearing up in dc though. Less military now than before the "inauguration." Im disgusted by this place! cant believe they let this happen, is it sign of the time? Perception is now reality. Ugh.
Boaty Bear January 23, 2021 8:11 AM: Strikes me as somewhat relevant

Why is Gov UK Ltd dissolving?
https://youtu.be/ygfcJJX_VR0

Update on UK Gov dissolution
https://youtu.be/woP84rENnoo

Observation Deck, a decent channel run by a decent bloke who's been covering rights/legalese etc for a little while now.
Br'er Shaygetz January 23, 2021 8:18 AM: So "The Hunger Games" is a documentary? Outstanding....
Bigger Bunyip January 23, 2021 8:19 AM: This would make sense ONLY if they needed the Biden administration to take control before they could be declared invalid. That is a lot of power to give away to your foe before you try and strike, and the kind of upheaval being talked about e.g. moving the capital is not going to play well.
teemac January 23, 2021 8:21 AM: what was the reason given for the loan?
millerized January 23, 2021 8:21 AM: Believe none of what you hear, and only half of what you see.
bramley say Enoch woz right January 23, 2021 8:21 AM: Well, who would have guessed there was actually a (small, independent) Bank of London... which went bust in 1866. If they are referring to the Bank of England as 'Bank of London' i'd chalk this one up as a tall tale. Everyone knows what the Bank of England is, especially people interested in central banking cartels and private charter bartering.
[Redacted] January 23, 2021 8:32 AM: There are similar stories in the UK concerning the royal family selling royal bastards in the 1800s, the current royals being illegitimate, and the reason why the laws of succession were changed. It would explain why English Royals don't want to assume power, why continental royalty wants nothing to do with them (not just the nightmarish sexual perversions), and why a new coronation likely won't be a holy mass. There were also ties to the City of London and ideological roots in Anglo-Israelism - as expected of fringe conspiracy theories. Such stories are common.
sammibandit January 23, 2021 8:38 AM: 1871 also brought the Indian Act in Canada and the Criminal Tribes Act in India. For reference purposes only.
Les Garnet January 23, 2021 8:41 AM: I'll accept crazy any day, the smell of fear is in the air in DC. The rats are scurrying to spurn the King, perhaps too little too late. Hail King Trump, long live the King!
Rocklea Marina January 23, 2021 8:49 AM: The law is an agreed upon fiction. Who has the guns and who commands them is where the power lies.

Metokur's old sovereign citizen videos are hoot if you wish to see how these things play out in the real world.

On a not unrelated note, Wictor seems to think there is some legal fiction action happening in congress that we are all going to be amazed by. There may well be, but congress can just bury legals fictions just as the courts do. Wictor also has a blind spot 109 countries wide.

MSM obviously lies but all else is not truth by default. There is still the military question though, who knows, we may get a nice surprise yet.
guardianDogg January 23, 2021 8:53 AM: Yeah. I've seen this around. Owen, I think talked about it as well months or years ago on a stream. I expect March is when the illusion glasses normal people will be shook.

It's not a prediction just a likely outcome. The monoparty is distracted right now with war and Trump to really see it happening.
The Lab Manager January 23, 2021 8:54 AM: I would guess this could also be related to the assertion that the 16th Amendment implementing the income tax was never property ratified (I believe this) and that the IRS is a corporation registered elsewhere.
Hedge January 23, 2021 8:55 AM: @teemac. Supposedly the USA was broke and bankrupt at the time. Needed money to keep going or some shit like that.
T.L. Ciottoli January 23, 2021 8:56 AM: I certainly hope so. The constant refrain from now on should be that we are living under foreign occupation by a foreign peoples named Jews.

Free the Americas & Europe & Africa from the Jews. Free Christians from Jewish occupation.
Gettimothy January 23, 2021 8:56 AM: Think of it as a metaphor, or, if you prefer, a palindrome....

ACIREMA FO SETATS DETINU EHT FO NOITAROPROC EHT

Then plug that into translate.google.com

AHA!

ACIREMA FOR FOR NOITAROPROC minority retained EHT EHT

Its is Cthulhu!
Crunchy Cachalot January 23, 2021 8:58 AM: The link for some important "history" in the article is to an "alt-history" fan fiction site.
Al From Bay Shore January 23, 2021 9:00 AM: Everything is still in play. Whether you believe in Q or Thomas Wictor, the proverbial ball is still in play. When the troops leave D.C. then you can begin to wonder where the so-called blackpill is and, from that moment, you can deliberate as to whether or not to take it out of its container. The troops will remain in D.C. until March so until that moment, abandon all hope of taking the blackpill.
stevo January 23, 2021 9:00 AM: James Delingpole did a podcast with Charlie Ward that goes into a lot of this stuff. Extremely interesting and often hard to believe, but he seems like quite a guy.
Dave Rolf January 23, 2021 9:01 AM: @teemac

The reason they could need a loan is because at the time Washington D.C. was built the American banking system was not capable of providing the funds needed to build Washington D.C. into the massive capitol that it is today.

USA had a gold standard and very decentralized system of banking. Perhaps the City of London and the Vatican State were the only ones capable of financing such a huge project and had the interest in doing it.
T.L. Ciottoli January 23, 2021 9:01 AM: Hahaha. You think these people 'go bust'? You ever heard of bailouts and a printing press? You ever heard of calling on debts and favors? You think these people 'take risks' and just go "oh well golly-gosh we done got out-competed by them goyim. I guess they deserve it and we'll just let them run things from now on!"

Wake up. Please, for God's sake, wake up. These (((people))) play for keeps, their hatred of us, of the Goyim, of White Christian Europeans, is demonic. They worship of Moloch (money) is very, very real. 'Bankruptcy' is nothing but something the goyim have to accept. It does not apply to them, whether their businesses or banks 'go bust' of not. That's merely what's on the books and in the official registry and in the headlines. These people have mountains of money, pull, influence, and blood-oaths and violent means of staying well, well above water, and selling themselves as unlucky, poor victims the entire time to naive goyim.
Paulito January 23, 2021 9:03 AM: What do the Vatican, the City of London, and Washington, D.C. all have in common? They're not part of the countries in which they are located. They all have giant phallus statues in prominent locations. They were all founded by Masons. They're the most corrupt real estate in the countries in which they reside. They are centers for the consolidation of wealth and power. I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting. Just coincidence, I'm sure.
Unknown January 23, 2021 9:08 AM: I have dealt with the sovereign citizen crowd a few times over the years as they attacked medical practices and businesses.

I think some are true believers and some are just scammers, but neither kind likes paying debts (something they share with Jews). But where Jews get away with their obscurations of the law and facts, the SCs are so looney tunes they get stepped on when they finally get to court and through a few hearings.

The Queen of England does not own your soul, and writing your name all inn lower case is not a magic talisman against an order to seize property pursuant to a judgment, or against an arrest warrant for not showing up for court on your DUI.

SC's common law courts and liens are also why it is way harder to file UCC and property liens now. Thanks, guys.
Piqua Bear January 23, 2021 9:11 AM: Crrow777radio.com has a ton of information on this topic, especially the podcasts with K. L. Not trying to push anything on Vox's blog so mods can delete this if not appropriate.
dienw January 23, 2021 9:19 AM: Know this within a year of connecting to the internet 20 years ago; but trying to tell people this, even so-called conservatives who claim to have high IQ because they can put two lines of code together, is a hopeless cause.

Charlie Ward and Simon Parkes have commented on this recently; they even said that this corporation was taken down 18 months ago; ergo, Chiden is chief executive of a non-existent company. Parkes even mentioned Anna von Reitz's American States Assembly project. If she is involved with Q, she has already filled offices in 30+ states.
lynnjynh9315 January 23, 2021 9:22 AM: I'll give you this: it's very odd that the troops haven't dispersed yet. Hmm.
Crunchy Cachalot January 23, 2021 9:24 AM: @21 - The Pope was a prisoner in the Vatican in 1870 and had been dispossessed of most his temporal power and goods. The Vatican was in no position to be funding any project of any size.

The City of London is part of the UK, and has nothing like the status of the State of Vatican City. It's like one the boroughs of New York.
rekrapt January 23, 2021 9:24 AM: Not that it matters to anyone, but I believe all of this. We are in a battle of God vs. Satan. Most of this is beyond my understanding. But, right or wrong, I am putting my trust in God and Vox Day. I will not give in to despair because I know that God wins in the end. Period. Thanks, Vox, for your courage to seek the truth. You have my admiration and trust. God bless you.
dienw January 23, 2021 9:26 AM: Boaty Bear wrote:Strikes me as somewhat relevant

Why is Gov UK Ltd dissolving?

https://youtu.be/ygfcJJX_VR0

Update on UK Gov dissolution

https://youtu.be/woP84rENnoo

Observation Deck, a decent channel run by a decent bloke who's been covering rights/legalese etc for a little while now.

Yes, Charlie Ward mentioned this. the Queen and family moved out of their London residence last summer to their country residence claiming it was done for COVID reasons. Has anyone heard from Megan/Harry lately? This would be the final act of the American Revolution if Trump &Q can pull off the restoration. This would be what Q meant by taking down the Queen.
map January 23, 2021 9:26 AM: Very interesting. Something dawned on me in the last few weeks regarding the Vatican and the Catholic Church in general.

The Church is, rightfully, credited with preserving much of the classicism of the Greco-Roman world after the fall of the Roman Empire. After Byzantium fell, that classicism migrated to the former western half of the Roman Empire and eventually became the Renaissance.

I wonder if this preservation of classicism allowed the Babylonian mystery religions to stowaway onto the Church "lifeboat." They've been metastasizing within the Church for 2,000 years.

Look at St. Peters Basilica from an aerial view: You have that phallic monument, the dome of the Basilica and the star symbol at the base of the monument. I read this had something to do with Horus, Osiris and the star represents their child.

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo/st.-peters-basilica-aerial.html

I think someone here had a link to this story.
Quicksilver January 23, 2021 9:29 AM: Why seek to respect some ancient law if your opponents won't? I don't understand this need to find some hidden lore in a musty tome that would legitimize Trump (or anyone's) advance towards power - when it's clear that our enemies have no respect for any law, history or tradition and are willing to do exactly what it takes to win.

To beat them, one must be ready to act in kind? No? Damn what's in the writing - just act to take control...
Dan in Georgia January 23, 2021 9:31 AM: Reconstruction in the aftermath of the US Civil War.
map January 23, 2021 9:31 AM: Vigilant Citizen has a very interesting take on the IRS headquarters, speaking of symbols and design.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-irs-headquarters-maryland/
Brian D. Kennedy January 23, 2021 9:33 AM: I've read the 1871 statute several times and don't see that it does anything other than create a municipal corporation for the District of Columbia. Moreover, the statute expressly states that the corporation's powers are limited by other federal statutes and the U.S. Constitution. In comparison to other conspiracy theories in this category, I much prefer the one about the "missing" Thirteenth Amendment.

For those interested, here's a link to the original text of the statute: https://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llsl&fileName=016/llsl016.db&recNum=0454
sammibandit January 23, 2021 9:34 AM: Isle of Jersey in UK as well.
An Orthodox Christian January 23, 2021 9:36 AM: Curiouser and curiouser.
VFM #7634 January 23, 2021 9:42 AM: Corporation = formalized oligarchy
Professor Branestawm January 23, 2021 9:46 AM: @JMG

Thet got it From William 'Bill' Cooper, a true American Patriot.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DaOQQe2OAONA/
Living in a Fallen World January 23, 2021 9:48 AM: Do not trust the plan. Come up with your own plan. Fighting back isn't sitting around hoping someone else does it for you.

Feverish interpretations and predictions of what other people are doing doesn't seem to be a winning strategy.
Unknown January 23, 2021 9:50 AM: Alfred the great gave the city of London to the Vatican. Keep up the great work vox. James in Margate England. (I understand this message won't be put up)
The Greay Man January 23, 2021 9:50 AM: The corporation argument always sounds silly to me.

It doesn't change anything, it's just a good story.

DC is a separate, federal territory. What's the difference if it's owned by this "corporation" or is what it always was? It doesn't change how it works.

As for what Vox's real point is, the E.O. targets DC and the evil federal government - I like that and agree.
Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2021 9:52 AM: Of course DC was foreign to the states: it had been ceded to their Frankenstein creation the Federal Government, accepted by Congress under their legitimate authority per Article 1 Section 8, and was part of no state.

I have read the Act of 1871. It charters a municipal government for DC. It is questionable whether it is constitutional for Congress to delegate its Article 1 Section 8 power in that fashion, but by 1871 the constitution was a dead letter, and nobody cared.

Is there some other Act of 1871? Because this one does roughly none of the things the jailhouse lawyers claim it did. I understand that we are ruled by inimical foreigners, but it's not because somebody changed our constitution in 1871. All-caps for emphasis is a common printer's flourish from that era, but it doesn't change the meaning, and I cannot find WE THE PEOPLE in that act in any event.
Unknown January 23, 2021 9:54 AM: Rocklea Marina wrote:The law is an agreed upon fiction. Who has the guns and who commands them is where the power lies.

Metokur's old sovereign citizen videos are hoot if you wish to see how these things play out in the real world.

On a not unrelated note, Wictor seems to think there is some legal fiction action happening in congress that we are all going to be amazed by. There may well be, but congress can just bury legals fictions just as the courts do. Wictor also has a blind spot 109 countries wide.

MSM obviously lies but all else is not truth by default. There is still the military question though, who knows, we may get a nice surprise yet.

The enforcement of laws has always been corrupt. You expect the rich and powerful to be given a pass for sipping Walker Blue on a sidewalk outside their club where an auto worker is arrested and convicted of a misdemeanor for doing the same with a miller lite outside his bar of choice.

That is being taken to insane extremes now, for example the county prosecutor for the University of Michigan just announced blacks will no longer be charged with drug crimes or non violent theft.

Judges were never supposed to be part of that inequity. But now they are. In a decade we went from Epstein getting a sentence so light it was a farce, but he was a billionaire with ties to the highest level of power---to judges actively disregarding the facts and law to achieve their political goals in everyday cases.

Here in Michigan one federal judge took the tea money to spare every single felon Chaldean Mafia member from deportation. Another federal judge took the tea money to release Southwest T, the insanely violent Black Mafia leader. He then spent more of his stash money and was given control over a quarter of Michigan MJ business.

That is a problem, because it means winning a case is wholly dependent on finding the right people to carry the tea money to the judges. And being connected enough the US Attorney pretends they can't see the bribes.

The danger to the state is not a few MAGAs shooting up the county executive's house for being a rabid democrat. The danger is a well off party in court with a huge exposure but without the juice to pay the judge, deciding to change the judges via a "robbery gone bad."
The Lab Manager January 23, 2021 9:55 AM: I was taking a look. So what of the 17 flags on Trump's departure? This one? The letter Q? Coincidence?

https://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2021/01/12/quo-warranto-the-two-words-biden-pelosi-fear-most/

"These are pure bluffs being used as bargaining chips to get President Trump off focus on quo warranto. The impeachment procedure requires 17 Republican Senators to comply. And there are not 17 Republican Senators willing to permanently destroy their political careers for Biden & Pelosi. "

===================

"QUO WARRANTO BY CIVIL JURY

§ 16-3544:

“In a quo warranto proceeding…Issues of fact shall be tried by a jury if either party requests it. Otherwise they shall be determined by the court.”

And don’t think a skilled trial attorney can’t find a fair jury in D.C. Voir Dire is a science, and with social media it’s now a very exact science. By far, a jury trial to determine the legality of the election is our best bet. There’s a very good reason why most civil cases settle rather than go to a jury. It’s called uncertainty."
Red Bane January 23, 2021 9:55 AM: Yet Biden and his team seem unaware of this encirclement, as they busy themselves exhausting pen ink on one EO after the next. Are they simply unaware of the sticky trap they find themselves in?
Matthew January 23, 2021 9:56 AM: This is absolutely fascinating. Where I can I find more information on this sort of thing?
Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2021 9:57 AM: Bigger Bunyip wrote:That is a lot of power to give away to your foe before you try and strike,
The did indeed give away the presidency. ``President'' Zho's executive orders are now showing up on the Federal Register. Creepy Joe's handlers definitely have control of government.
Zastavnik Džemo January 23, 2021 9:58 AM: I imagine this grab of foreign assets (if real) is less about patriotism and more about approaching economic doom.

USA was a corporation run out of London for a long time. Noone seemed to mind while the cake was big enough to share around.
Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2021 10:00 AM: teemac wrote:what was the reason given for the loan?
By the end of the War Against the States, the North was flat broke, and printing so much paper ``money'' that people weren't accepting it. It's not hard to imagine that the Progressive financiers who had put Lincoln in power to destroy the South and the Constitution would look to their fellow Progressives in Europe for a little specie.
Eleven Oaks January 23, 2021 10:06 AM: This is all true and anyone who doesn't believe it just hasn't looked into it yet. It's just such an enormous thing that took place back then when it was possible to take advantage of the turmoil America had been experiencing, the same f#@%&ery happened in the thirties during the turmoil of that time. It's just a hidden part of our history
ZaijiaN January 23, 2021 10:07 AM: This sounds similar to the argument that because your name is in uppercase on your SSN card, that means you don't have to pay federal income taxes. This was a big hit among my libertarianish friends circa 2000, but nobody took it seriously.

Because even if the legal loophole were true, it would simply just be ignored by those adjudicating the law, as illustrated so plainly in 2020.
Lazarus January 23, 2021 10:12 AM: Respectfully, when you consider the historical facts, the only meaning left for the terms given in the opening paragraph of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 (and that which follows) is, the municipal corporation that was created is a private corporation owned by the actual government. Accordingly, the only government created in that Act was the government formed by the mere governing authority any private corporation has within the confines of managing its own corporate construct. Thus, we call it: “Corp. U.S.” We also note Congress reserved the right, granted them in the Constitution, to complete dictatorial authority over their Corp. U.S. construct, without regard for its internal operations or officers. Thus, as a matter of law, Congress can use Corp. U.S. within the ten mile square of the District of Columbia as they see fit.

http://www.teamlaw.net/DCOAeffect.htm
Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2021 10:12 AM: Al From Bay Shore wrote:When the troops leave D.C. ...
Al, three of the states so far have gotten disgusted and pulled their troops back from DC. We hoped there was something significant about having NG troops from all the states, but it looks like the state governors didn't know that it was significant.

The deployment was odd, because we heard that it was done under Title 32, which would mean the forces were not federalized and the cost was born by the states.
theartistformerlyknownasgeorge January 23, 2021 10:15 AM: Rocklea Marina wrote:The law is an agreed upon fiction. Who has the guns and who commands them is where the power lies.

I certainly agree in an objective law in the sense of CS Lewis's 'Abolition of Man', but our laws, at their best are attempts to articulate it and commit top enforcing it, and at worse the LARP-ing that makes up most of the litigation in the world.

And LARP-ing is exactly what these scumbags do. Although I suspect there is an element of witchcraft in them "creating" laws of their own.

I have no idea if the specifics of this post are correct, but similar moves are and they reveal how demented and simply bored these swampers are. They create fictional entities to be defended by fictional laws in courts that have fictional authority.

As a related aside: I've come to realize that one of the repeated and necessary aspect of this materialistic/mechanistic Leftism is that it is ahistorical, but tries to use these sort of "laws" to fabricate a history and legitimacy.

The counterpart is tradition, which is essentially a historical gentlemens' agreement kept alive by shared values.

The former is a leash by which they try to manipulate you (also makes for a lovely noose) and the later is a necklace with the seal of you people upon it demonstrating your allegiance and belonging.
Boaty Bear January 23, 2021 10:16 AM: This is why I've not been concerned about the Trillion$ the GE has been spending since 2017, if he had no intention of citizens paying it back? While in the meantime using it to rebuild US Industry/infrastructure/eased the Coroni economic destruction etc...

And then tell the Rothies/Queenie/Vatican etc to swivel on his balls of steel.

Income tax to be but a memory?
Didas Kalos January 23, 2021 10:18 AM: Interesting book. https://www.amazon.com/Killing-Uncle-Sam-Demise-America/dp/1645720047/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1UBYLW6O24DUL&dchild=1&keywords=killing+uncle+sam+rodney+howard+browne&qid=1611415100&sprefix=Killing+uncl%2Caps%2C293&sr=8-1
FacelessBro January 23, 2021 10:20 AM: One can always hope. Things are not what they seem, to be sure.
Wazdakka January 23, 2021 10:27 AM: Good interview
Delingpole's world view has been so shook up over the last few years, that he was able to be politely incredulous, but acknowledge the possibility of it being true.
drsmith48167 January 23, 2021 10:28 AM: Stranger things than this story have happened before , so no reason to not believe it could have happened.
Samuel Adams January 23, 2021 10:41 AM: @Paulito

"What do the Vatican, the City of London, and Washington, D.C. all have in common? They're not part of the countries in which they are located."

That would be the biggest reason any effort to make Washington, D.C. a 51st US state would never get traction. The status quo likes it this way.
PCA January 23, 2021 10:56 AM: Seriously, what's this palindrome business about? I don't get it.
Geoffroi de Bohemonde January 23, 2021 11:01 AM: This has been a backstory for several years. This is the first time one hears it coming up from multiple sources in reasonable detail. Q talked of this as well as needing a scare event to wake up the sleepers. Don't count Q out yet. I was wondering when Vox would get to this topic. It is Central to the entire event. This must be the greater clarity we were promised by 24 January.
Delaware Blue Hen January 23, 2021 11:05 AM: Assuming that this US corporation story is true, where will be the new capital city?

Also, what is the status of all regular military, civil service govt employees, appointed govt officials, and elected officials of the US? Are they just foreign mercenaries? What is the status of the NG?
mobius January 23, 2021 11:07 AM: Gently done.
Geoffroi de Bohemonde January 23, 2021 11:08 AM: Charlie Ward claims we seized 34 quadrillion dollars in gold and artefacts from the Vatican when the lights went out. I doubt it was that much but I could well imagine a sizeable haul.
optimalrebellion January 23, 2021 11:13 AM: I have my doubts for sure

But on this timeline, anything could happen
Anon January 23, 2021 11:23 AM: Okay I know the bits about the City of London’s relationship with England are true, but none of that about the Vatican makes sense. First off, Leo XIII condemned slavery one year after said incorporation would take place. Secondly, why on earth would they offer a loan to Protestants? Widespread Masonic infiltration didn’t happen till atleast after Pius X died.
And why does it reference a wiki about alternate history? The supposed flag of US Papal States looks like it was made by on /monarchy/.
Reprehensible Adam January 23, 2021 11:24 AM: Its interesting that it's general information now. I wonder why this 1871 information rose to the top now?
Dan Karelian January 23, 2021 11:26 AM: It should be noted that the Rothschilds were already the associated bankers of the Vatican during the late 19th century.

Ken Cousens outlines the legalese history of America succinctly for those interested. He is the co-founder of the Panterra private society and of GemStone University
Dan Karelian January 23, 2021 11:31 AM: And if it wasn't obvious yet, The City of London is the crypto-sovereign domain of 4th Baron Rothschild.
Niniche January 23, 2021 11:39 AM: Is "sedious" really a word?? I never heard it before; does he mean "seditious?"
Jeff aka Orville January 23, 2021 11:43 AM: Through a glass darkly. We may only ever see the outlines and not the fulness of Satan's hierarchy on earth stretching from Nimrod and the Babylonian mystery religions to today.

From it's founding America has had occult influences. Thirteen states, a flag that I now see was obviously patterned after the Vatican flag with it's thirteen stars on a field of blue with red and white stripes. Many here know that the District of Columbia has occult symbology built into it's layout of streets, temples and monuments to dieties such as the Washington Monument.

Years ago I read a book "Fifty Years in the Church of Rome" by a Canadian priest Father Chiniquy. Written in 1886, that book describes some of the political machinations of Rome within America including the assasination of Lincoln just a few years before the forming of this DC corporation.

I don't know either how, or if this will all play out in regards to Trump, but there is definitely something going on below the surface.

The deep state has already put out a hit piece in Vanity Fair on Trump trying to portray ECW, Miller and Patel as just following the orders of a dysfunctional executive. So the battle is still going on.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/01/embedding-with-pentagon-leadership-in-trumps-chaotic-last-week
Ozymandius January 23, 2021 11:43 AM: For now, I am living my life as an American and focussing on taking care of my family. Holding on to, and believing in Americanism, when so little has broken in our direction, is anything but giving up or blackpilling. This is the way of faith. To honor this we're picking up a new puppy from our breeder today and at the last minute have decided her registered name will be Liberty Justice (Libby for short).

I want this awakening of Americanism movement to continue and have complete confidence that it will. Is the military in charge; working behind the scenes to bring Liberty and Justice to our nation? There is no way for us to know. If the plan is in place, we minnows shouldn't know! If it is, I have a few questions.

1) How can the military "be in charge" when the CIC of that military is the figurehead of the enemy?

2) Is there enough military leadership in place to even plan for and carry out such a maneuver?

3) How can this possibly be done without ANY of the Cabal finding out about it?
KentuckyMAGA January 23, 2021 11:44 AM: Man...why do Biden’s eyes look black sometimes? I know he’s old and probably on meds, but it’s odd. Sometimes the reptilian people theory looks legit.

MAGA till the end. My Trump flag is still up, and I wear my MAGA hat to the store.
Stocky Anglo January 23, 2021 11:46 AM: I have spent a lot of time diving into these theories. Check SEDM.ORG Fr good case law and practical application/research. Best most thorough information archive that are validated I have found. There is a truth to this all, the issue is how actionable/practical it is at scale. We all remember Waco.
Silent Draco January 23, 2021 11:47 AM: No crazier than a convention to reform the Articles of Confederation becoming a new Federal Constitution. All the Bill's and notes for Rev War (including non-distingushable British fakes) were coming due and payable, with no cash to pay for it. Confederation couldn't collect tax money to pay off debt. A Great Power may have been able to buy individual independent states with specie, for cents on the Continental.
Stocky Anglo January 23, 2021 11:47 AM: I have spent a lot of time diving into these theories. Check SEDM.ORG Fr good case law and practical application/research. Best most thorough information archive that are validated I have found. There is a truth to this all, the issue is how actionable/practical it is at scale. We all remember Waco.
Br1cht January 23, 2021 11:49 AM: For the SDL´s amusement, 10 dates from inaugouration day- ten days of palindrome= Darkness?

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/01/19/inauguration-day-palindrome-dates-2021-january-december/4216942001/
Kristophr January 23, 2021 11:49 AM: Give that one up. The scotus decreed that the 16th was ratified, so trying to untax in federal courts will only get you jailed.

Ask Vox's dad and Wesley Snipes how those fights end up.

After the Arkansas jury nullification, Fed judges handle their kangaroo courts more carefully.
KentuckyMAGA January 23, 2021 11:52 AM: Hope is the only way to live.

Most people in my neck of the woods are extremely irritated right now. Soon as Biden was sworn in, it’s like a switch flipped and things went somber. Top that with corona madness and it’s like a depression clinic.

You have to have hope and optimism. Despair is no way to live.
d January 23, 2021 11:52 AM: As long as we believe someone is working to liberate us, we will remain enslaved. Worse still, It's not a static situation, and the changes are not reversible. Civilizational degeneracy is truly as "progressive" as they brag about. Either the people muster the will and abort the lawless government captains, or such wicked racketeers will continue to gang rape Christendom unto her death.
Terrific January 23, 2021 11:57 AM: Damn! I followed those links for about an hour.

That is some STRONG Kool-Ade!
Unknown January 23, 2021 11:59 AM: Russell maxwell. And the make tricks.
Di January 23, 2021 12:00 PM: The article I’ve posted link to below, from 2014, references the same points, but with more detail around the connections of The Vatican, London and DC. I can’t attest to how factually accurate it is, apologies I’m still a noob to all this, but it is a very interesting, and in parts quite disturbing piece, if true of course.

From the article:

It is no better a time to question whether US is a country or a corporation and the US President and officials at the Congress are working for that Corporation and not for the American people.

https://www.sinhalanet.net/three-corporations-run-the-world-city-of-london-washington-dc-and-vatican-city

If President Trump has been trying to extricate the US from this set up, it’s no wonder he’s had such an uphill battle and so much resistance. Add in the current goings on in DC, happenings at The Vatican, and Buckingham Palace boarded up with the Queen hidden away, it’s not beyond the realms of possibility that these theories are true.
Opus January 23, 2021 12:02 PM: Who can doubt it. The City of London has its own airport, its own police force (quite separate from the Met) and the sovereign may only enter with the corporations permission.

Unfortunately, I have never heard of the Bank of London.
Golden triangle bear January 23, 2021 12:04 PM: TEEMAC
Bankruptcy.
International banking law concerning national debt requires the Debt to come due or be restructured every 70 years.
1789 was the date the constitution was in effect and was effectively the first loan to pay the debt
1859 Was the Civil war the South wasn’t interested in signing on to the debt.
1929 Stock market collapse
1999 .com bubble
All were debt restructuring events. Every time more of our birthright was given to the bankers. I am told that 1999 is when the debt was supposed to be forgiven and that there was some 20 year grace period or something (2019) and that’s why a push to digital currency and a patented vaccine straw man instead of the birth certificate straw man so the
bankers can start all over again. I have t been able to verify that though it is logical. Though, that does explain why The military can take back our country...
Elder Son January 23, 2021 12:05 PM: I've heard about this off and on for years. The first I heard of it was back in 99 from a couple of Sovereign Citizens who used come into my shop.

And apparently, the British and American Pilgrims Society is real.

If you feel like digging into it, and you will have to dig:

https://aim4truth.org/?s=Pilgrims+Society
Angela January 23, 2021 12:05 PM: Ah yes, we're all weighed and measured at birth for the corporation. I'm skeptical as I am with all things these days, especially having been one of the midwits that liked Jordan Peterson in the beginning. I shook the man's hand for pete's sake. I have learned to talk less, listen more, wait longer, and question all official narratives. Thanks Vox, for that. I'm becoming a better person.
Shimshon January 23, 2021 12:12 PM: We already know that whatever we collectively are taught as history is partly, perhaps mostly, false.

I haven't looked at current or historical events the same since the Podesta emails leaked in 2016.

As recently as October 2019, I guess you could say that metaphorically, I believed 90% of the news was false, and that maybe 10%, like NASA, was true. I worked on an experiment that launched on the Shuttle, after all. Now, 100% false. Thanks Vox, for that one.

Everything is off about what we have witnessed. I can't quite put my finger on it, but it's off, nonetheless. It's like when, a few days after 9/11, and I remember all the news coverage of the inexplicable and impossible finding of Mohamed Atta's passport, practically unscathed. I knew something was up even then, but I couldn't possibly imagine how big it was.

I was talking to my son when he came home yesterday. I told him about the graph I saw that in the three states that won it for Trump in 2016, that it only took anomalous results in five counties to turn them. As if the usual fraud was suppressed just enough in the right places to make a difference (something good polling and clever analysis could discern). This was obviously planned in some way.

If Trump lost this time, and so overtly and blatantly, that means one of two things, to me.

1. He was part of a plan, but it was not the actual plan that was carried out. In other words, he was played in some way. Perhaps their only goal was to deny Clinton the victory she craved. Trump got a few good things like tax reform in, and some judicial appointments to keep the executive at a more reasonable pace going off the cliff, but otherwise nothing lasting. Biden is just as criminal as her but far more controllable. They will go to any lengths to turn the tide, even against the greatest landslide in history, and no one can stop it, no matter how brazen they are. They will even try to wipe Trump out of the history books, first by omitting him from the school textbooks.

2. There is a plan that is in effect, and in some way he is in it or overseeing it.

Honestly, I have a hard time accepting that the first option is what we saw. It's not hopium either. I wanted Trump to cross the Rubicon as much as anyone. I accepted he didn't. I was even a bit disappointed for a day or so. But it is so out of character, regardless of what transpired and what is at stake for him personally, it makes no sense. So much of it even feels scripted, just like Q says. Also, regardless of what Q is, Q clearly proved authenticity to the point that it makes no sense as a project to form and direct mass opinion by opening peoples' eyes to the true nature of the dark evil behind the scenes in our world in the way it did, if #1 is what happened.
artensoll January 23, 2021 12:16 PM: @20 Stevo "...Charlie Ward that goes into a lot of this stuff. Extremely interesting and often hard to believe, but he seems like quite a guy."

With lots of stuff to sell. I saw the Delingpole podcast and checked out Charlie. I was left with the feeling I was watching infomercials like BB talked about recently.
SonyAD January 23, 2021 12:16 PM: Very interesting read. I've decided to postpone the date by which I draw definitive conclusions to February 3rd. The mistake most people make is always expecting tomorrow to be nearly the same as today and closing their mind off from considering as yet unconfirmed possibilities. Yet sometimes tomorrow is radically and completely different from thousands or tens of thousands of days prior. Who knows when the next credulity shattering tomorrow is due?
David Stanley January 23, 2021 12:17 PM: I wish I'd never heard of Charlie Ward and simple Simon......and the web they weave
Blujkts January 23, 2021 12:19 PM: So Does D.C. have a credit rating? What is it?
Bryce January 23, 2021 12:20 PM: Vox,
Off topic, but was reminded by the bank of London mention in the article. Do you have an opinion on Bill Still's ideas on how to break free from private central banks?
Jeroth January 23, 2021 12:27 PM: I remember about a year ago seeing some strange, ostensibly official document floating around that claimed to be a notice from the US Government to a mysterious international bank that the American people were to be transferred out of slavery at some given date. It was written in an old fashioned formal style, and was very well done, so I got some amusement out of it. Didn't look into it further than that document, but this sounds like basically the same conspiracy theory. I love this stuff.
jt January 23, 2021 12:29 PM: Is Biden really at the White House or in a stage?
Zaklog the Great January 23, 2021 12:30 PM: I am instinctively skeptical of the official story, but this is far too many layers of tin foil for me. Is there some truth here? Maybe. But this just seems weird and disconnected from reality.
Imwill January 23, 2021 12:31 PM: So my crazy neighbor who I think was on Acid got in my face and was yelling at me about this theory.
I’ve heard it from a few other sources to.

A few questions.

1) Where does the evidence of this corporation exist.
2) Where has this info been for the past 100+ years?
3) Why are we hearing about this now?

“Would you like to know more?” ::mashes the yes button::
Evan E January 23, 2021 12:36 PM: There is something to this. Crrow777 radio has interviews with a few guys that have gone down this road. If you get 'standing' as a man or woman on the land (not this admiralty/corporate legal jurisdiction), it has resulted in tangible real outcomes. The corporate is the 'corpse', thus the rules for the dead, which our bodies are if we fail to make claim that we are living and endowed with rights granted from the Creator. But the second they say your name in a court room and you say it's you, that binds you to the corpse jurisdiction. It's something along these lines. It's a giant scam, imo, and we will never be free until it stops.

Side note: some of the DC buildings are amazing. It's worth looking into the Tartarian conspiracy because how those structures were made cannot be explained in any logical way (along with many other structures throughout the world). The idea of slaves building parts is completely ridiculous. The dome and rotunda of the capitol is incredible. And what's with 'Columbia' (the statue at the top)? What I am sure of is that most of the current sacks of excrement known as Congress are vermin usurpers that do not belong in buildings of such majesty.
bramley say Enoch woz right January 23, 2021 12:36 PM: @22

I'm replying to your comment, assuming that yours was meant as a response to my earlier one.

Can you please tell me, without resorting to conspiracy tier prattle, how it makes any sense that a bank which went into liquidation due to being under-capitalised and having a debtor default on a huge loan supposedly went on to make an even bigger loan, 5 years after ceasing to exist, to capitalise the chartering of a sovereign city state in the US.

Or is it perhaps the case that the people who wrote this quoted article are as ill informed as you are, confuse a lesser-known, inconsequential bank that went bust for one of the most influential central banks in history, and think it no matter as it's a stone cold fact that every bank in the world that has ever existed has been owned and operated solely by and for the interest of international Jewry and the whole thing is a world of smoke and mirrors designed to fool the goys, and that paperwork and records are just there to uphold their illusion?

Can you see how defending such an obvious inaccuracy makes you appear to people who don't read David Icke and see lizards everywhere?
Shimshon January 23, 2021 12:41 PM: @5 "This would make sense ONLY if they needed the Biden administration to take control before they could be declared invalid."

Their side is vicious and violent and would not stand down in that case. It would have been open war. Our side (hello fellow white people) are not like that.
tuberman January 23, 2021 12:41 PM: [Redacted] wrote:There are similar stories in the UK concerning the royal family selling royal bastards in the 1800s, the current royals being illegitimate, and the reason why the laws of succession were changed. It would explain why English Royals don't want to assume power, why continental royalty wants nothing to do with them (not just the nightmarish sexual perversions), and why a new coronation likely won't be a holy mass. There were also ties to the City of London and ideological roots in Anglo-Israelism - as expected of fringe conspiracy theories. Such stories are common.

Much of what you say here is/was true, except the continental royals are even worse than the Windsor's, who are very evil. The former Netherlands Royalty being another level of degraded low-lives beyond the UK Royals.

Alexander's family was the last true Christians among Royals on the continent of Europe, and had to pay the price. I still think Putin's people choosing Christianity is why the Hate again for Russia.
Bezzle January 23, 2021 12:42 PM: Inexplicable coincidences.
Imwill January 23, 2021 12:43 PM: Great points. Didn’t know that about London.
Beardy Bear January 23, 2021 12:43 PM: @T.L. Where do you even think you are?
MSNBC comments?
Jamie-R January 23, 2021 12:59 PM: The 2nd guarantee in the Magna Carta was the freedom of the City of London and other towns and corporations. This city within a city, in London, is how the Royal family wash their money back to themselves from the taxpayers and the colonies.

Julian Assange cited this for the forever wars, you take it from the taxpayer bases in the government side and it comes back through the Corporation of DC. It's the duality, black and white, yin and yang, freemasonry symbolism. The owl represents this system, and duality. It's all legal.
Jotten January 23, 2021 12:59 PM: This consideration .ay not be a thing if they make DC a state. Already part of their plans?

https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/get-ready-for-dc-statehood-and-two-new-senators/
Jeroth January 23, 2021 1:03 PM: I don't have the video on hand, but when the horned viking guy entered the senate, one of the employees warned him that he was approaching the most sacred part of the senate floor. He paid absolutely no attention and moved forward without hesitation to desecrate it. After seeing that video, it dawned on me that the viking guy might have been sent there specifically to defile their temple. The ultimate humiliation ritual.
JM January 23, 2021 1:08 PM: This sounds slightly more plausible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alF7eT-nkeU&feature=youtu.be
tuberman January 23, 2021 1:12 PM: 19. Al From Bay Shore and 13. guardianDogg,

Got you guys, but interested in everyone else's comments. People at this point most do NOT accept kicking the can any further, and will not be passive, nor should you expect that. I'm not suggesting active revolt, merely interested. I'm personally only able to help finance some Culture Wars efforts.

That said, this material was discussed on 8Chan long ago, and may have even been in Neon's book (I should check again). On the plus side, over 80% of the population Knows that this so-called administration is phony on every level, as even the normies understand that it's all wrong.
Darren January 23, 2021 1:20 PM: @ 19 Al from Bay Shore

There is and interesting thread here that follows up on some of the things Wictor has been pointing to. It would seem that the 12th Amendment was not followed in tallying the votes on the 6th. Pelosi introduced some nonsense COVID rule. This would possibly make the vote invalid since it was not done before a full quorum of the representatives. Nobody seems to have noticed with all the fuss on the 6th. This would make Biden an illegitimate President by the Constitution. Interesting, but not sure it will go anywhere.
Link https://social.quodverum.com/@StevenDouglas/105592887755720985
SciVo January 23, 2021 1:21 PM: I have only known one person IRL who talked like that, except he was talking about your ALL CAPS name on your Social Security card being the State's incorporation of you.

When he said that Russia invaded Georgia, and Georgia is a state in the United States, therefore Putin had committed an act of war against us, I couldn't help it; I laughed and said that words are not magic. And then he never said another word to me of his fascinatingly askew world view.
Unknown January 23, 2021 1:31 PM: At this point, this is getting silly.

Trump was the best president that I have ever experienced. But if you took away the Q narrative, he was not much different than other presidents in his work. Only if you add the Q interpretation does he become anything else. What made Trump truly a great president is that he said what he'd do and did what he said. He work for the People of America, for the most part, and was an unabashed champion of them. And he took a whole lot of crap, and gave it right back. It was refreshing to see in a time of soybois, fake women, and general cringe.

But there are two things that never happen in this life: 1) Heroes never have a secret plan to save the day, and make everything alright in the end. That is Hollywood or mythology, not the real world. 2) If there were a secret plan, there would not be a Q putting it out there. The evil in control of this world would track down a leaker such as Q immediately, and either use his info to end the plan, or take him out, or do something so devious that I could not come up with it. That is also true for washed up FBI, CIA, ex-military, or even ex-lunch-counter workers with youtube channels. They may know how things used to work, but they won't know what is going on now.

Bottom line. Trump using the military to work out a secret Q plan was never real. It is not that it just hasn't happen yet, nor is it that it failed, it is that it is not real. What is real is that Trump (unfortunately) is no longer President. Trump is out of power and will never get it back. Even worse, senile Joe Biden is President, w/ Kamala as VP, Nancy still speaker, a Democrat congress and a useless and castrated Republican party.

You can listen to foreigners who claim to have secret info about the inner workings of the US Gov't and Politics, while also promoting stories about aliens, lizard people, and auras/vibrations, fine. But if you are doing so for any other reason than entertainment, you are deluding yourself.

Also, while there is a huge problem with corporations, admiralty law, central banks, states of emergencies that never end, the 16th amendment, and many other factors/conspiracies, anyone who actually thinks the Vatican is running the world has no knowledge of the Catholic Church or her history.

I don't know about the rest of it, but if you are all about the VATICAN (gasp!!), you are chasing a red herring.
Unknown January 23, 2021 1:36 PM: I think the possibility of Trump loyalists in the independent agencies doing something is very much still active.

But I won't hold my breath.
Jobethian January 23, 2021 1:39 PM: Meanwhile in Congress, do you realize we could have dueling impeachment’s? Biden impeachment in the House AT THE SAME TIME as Trump impeachment in the Senate. It’s all a show folks.
Canadian Warlord January 23, 2021 1:45 PM: There is something unique about D.C., London (central city square mile), and The Vatican. I don't know how old the links in between them are and who is involved. What perplexes me is that the Vatican's current legal status is only as old as the Mussolini regime. Previous to that they probably existed separately by tradition or in some other fashion (paid off local politicians)?

During the recent D.C. fracus there was a lot of news out of Vatican city and Italy in general. London was silent by comparison. During and after World War Part One much of the middle-management international bankster class migrated to New York, as England and France went basically broke buying U.S.A. and Japanese war material (shells mostly). After World War Part Two there were international debt schemes out of Switzerland (Bank of International Settlements, World Bank) but supposedly London has some kind of primacy still. I have not seen any real evidence of that, except for the exceptionally wealthy Rothschilds and of course Royals. Personally I don't see the Rothschild fortune existing without the tacit approval of the Royals, especially the famous early 1800s stock market crash and subsequent ownership. The King of England could have snuffed them out with troops, assassins, etc. but he didn't. I don't think the Royals were 'bought off' or 'powned' by Rothschilds, that is I believe patriot mythology. The Royals own resource wealth in a gigantic swath of the planet. Canada is 80%+ the fresh water on Earth, and it is not owned by Canadians (NAFTA made that clear).

What's up with London? I think the Royals are still the financial player worldwide. The Rothschilds are as rich as non-royals are ever likely to get, but their faces aren't on the money of any country and backwoods real estate is NOT called "rothschilds", it is called "crown."

If the USA is truly a corporation, can it have something to do with the 1814 sacking of the White House and the theft of the original founding document?

Any way it's analyzed, there's no doubt that the U.S.A. has been fighting London's wars for it since 1913 - Federal Reserve Act. Even Israel in my opinion is fighting London's wars.
Tommy Hass January 23, 2021 1:48 PM: Featured word: looks
Joe Smith January 23, 2021 1:53 PM: That's funny. As she writes, antifa.com literally redirects to whitehouse.gov now.
Shadow Banisher January 23, 2021 2:01 PM: This has been known & talked about for years, independent of the nesara/gesara bullcrap.

The act of 1871 and the corporate entity is indeed a real issue; but there can be no reversing it without public consciense changing, let alone even comprehending the difference.

Better off improving on or changing the current setup, if anything. Several states didn't even become a part of the union until after incorporation. Talk about a mess.
Gen. Kong January 23, 2021 2:01 PM: The United States was probably bankrupt by 1871. A lot of money was borrowed to fight the civil war, and the old railroad lawyer from Illinois tried to pay it back with worthless greenbacks (United States Notes) printed by the millions, which of course the (((usurers))) refused as payment. They paid him back for this insult by sending Mr. Booth to carry out his ultimate performance at Ford's Theatre - when the war they whipped up was safely won. Their abolitionist shabbas-goys - already drunk worshipping their negro god - tried looting what was left of the southern states to pay off the loans and interest but too much had been destroyed and new sources of cotton had already been obtained for the mills in Britain.

Keep in mind the only members of congress from the south were toadies for the 'Grand Army of the Republic' which continued to occupy (facilitate murder, rape, looting and pillage) the former confederacy until 1877. We already know what the pseudo-Christians from the north were. Of course they accepted the terms from the Vatican - itself an entity owned by the Rothschilds since the 1830s or 40s. The loans were paid off via London to disguise this due to the relatively large number of Protestants in the US who might take notice. Apart from Luther, few Protestants ever really understood the essential nature of the Synagogue of Satan (Old Scratch's Meetin' House). Cromwell is the one who allowed the snakes back on the island, and in about three decades they set up the Bank of England. The theory has some plausibility.
An Orthodox Christian January 23, 2021 2:04 PM: Ok. I won't believe it but might find it useful. Read it all along with attachments and videos proffered on SG along same lines. Added to general knowledge base. Awaiting someone more intelligent to make sense of it all as events unfold.
Alexander January 23, 2021 2:23 PM: Sounds like the stuff crrow777 has been talking about. Keeping an open mind. But just focus on building. The solution comes from us, and God, not politics.
Avalanche January 23, 2021 2:23 PM: @23 "Just coincidence, I'm sure."

Just cohen-cidence, I'm sure.

FIFY
Unknown January 23, 2021 2:27 PM: @Rocklea Marina

Wictor still seems to think that "the rule of Law" matters. It doesn't. Just because there is a process crime that might be a stumbling block for the cheaters - it matters not. Anyone who has faith in the American judiciary now, is deluded.

Wictor also has too much faith in the military - "they swore an oath" - so did the politicians, and the police - the same ones who screwed over the citizens and knelt for BLM terrorists.

Maybe he's right, who knows.
Avalanche January 23, 2021 2:27 PM: @27 " it's very odd that the troops haven't dispersed yet."

Monkey Werx USA says another 26,000 have been set up to move into DC; and nowhere NEAR that number are being pulled out. Also a rumor he has from 'the Pentagon' is they're expected to stay through SEPTEMBER!
(~11 min.) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eK47z2QBV0Y
phil g January 23, 2021 2:29 PM: After the devastation and cost of the war, I could
understand that.
phil g January 23, 2021 2:31 PM: I prefer Miles Mathis definition of the Phoenicians. Basically same people but less emotionally charged.
Doktor Jeep January 23, 2021 2:31 PM: I have heard a lot of that "corporation as government" stuff back when I had the misfortune of crossing paths with these miserable irritating sovereign citizens. Every one of them self absorbed scammers whose sovereignty stance they based on trying to be immune from actual crimes they committed.
The more public ones just try to sell books detailing paperwork hocus pocus. Like "according to this book found in an old pirate shop by my sisters brothers roommate you can actually get a million dollars from the treasury and never have to pay taxes! It's all in my 5 part book series for 49.99 each.
We called them "paytriots" for a reason.
Avalanche January 23, 2021 2:32 PM: @32 "To beat them, one must be ready to act in kind? No? Damn what's in the writing - just act to take control..."

And THEN what? Playing king of the hill forever more with no end? Wasn't there an original Star Trek episode about that? Klingons and a few of the Enterprise crew fighting forever and ever with no chance to win? Humanity has been there done that long long long ago... well, maybe not so long ago amongst arab, muzzies, indians, and chinese.
Erich Schwarz January 23, 2021 2:38 PM: If clever Internet memes about an 1871 agreement are what we're counting on to drive out Biden, then we can look forward to a 10,000-year Deep State regime. Heck, if nobody on our side grows the hell up and kicks their hopium addiction, maybe the name "Biden" will end up becoming a synonym for "puppet titular world ruler", in exactly the way that "Caesar" was two thousand years earlier for "real world ruler".
The Lab Manager January 23, 2021 2:45 PM: map wrote:Vigilant Citizen has a very interesting take on the IRS headquarters, speaking of symbols and design.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/sinistersites/sinister-sites-irs-headquarters-maryland/

It's notable that the Federal Reserve Building in DC looks a lot like Solomon's Temple, but I'm sure that's just coincidence.
Avalanche January 23, 2021 2:46 PM: @54 "three of the states so far have gotten disgusted and pulled their troops back from DC."

Pulled them? Or said they were *going* to pull them. And if their Guard have been federalized, I do not believe they CAN until the President releases them FROM the federalization.

"Title 32, which would mean the forces were not federalized"

Except there is video of a bunch of them BEING federalized/sworn in.
Shimshon January 23, 2021 2:46 PM: @64 "Assuming that this US corporation story is true, where will be the new capital city?"

Most of the Department of Agriculture, a very powerful department, has been moved to Kansas City.

I can't say anything about this story, but I did actually mention the possibility in a comment, IIRC before the inauguration, that perhaps it would go through as planned, and that Trump implemented some sort of Continuity of Government program to move the actual running of the affairs state elsewhere, right in plain sight, with him still firmly in power.
Imwill January 23, 2021 2:55 PM: This isn’t being solved in courts
Jeroth January 23, 2021 3:01 PM: Unknown wrote:Only if you add the Q interpretation does he become anything else.

This is so obviously false that there is no point in reading the rest of whatever you wrote.
Imwill January 23, 2021 3:18 PM: How do you think kingdoms are born? At the ballot box.
Boaty Bear January 23, 2021 3:46 PM: If that is so, why does the Queen need permission to enter the City of London from the LORD MAYOR? (not Suckdic Khan)

Just a special borough eh?
Sarah in FL January 23, 2021 4:13 PM: The True Great Awakening channel on Telegram. Who is watching it? It appears to be all the stuff declassified by Trump. Thousands of documents, emails, photos, etc.
Shimshon January 23, 2021 4:15 PM: This is pretty OT, but since I mentioned the D of A move to Kansas City above, the Bezos Post has a pretty uplifting article about the government dead weight choosing to quit rather than move, and sad lives they lead.

Beyond the statistics, the move also is devastating families and forcing employees at all stages of life into wrenching decisions. Among those leaving the agency is Rachel Melnick, a married mother of two who just had a second child — and purchased a “forever home” in Virginia — when she learned her job was moving to Kansas City. And Jonathan McFadden, a researcher in his early 30s who was falling for his work, the District and a new girlfriend.

Johnson did not want to quit her job. In addition to spearheading a climate change research program, she spent her days helping forest scientists find funding.

I lost count, but there are at least two "climate scientists" and on trans employee who quit. Presumably some bureaucratic tricks were used to prevent them from simply transferring to another local high-pay position.

I seriously would not be surprised to learn at some point, after the left is pacified, that Biden and Congress are literally in charge of nothing. I don't expect it. It's pretty outlandish. But come on man! Just look at all the odd things afoot. Kansas City also has a Fed branch. Maybe whatever special powers the New York Fed has were also granted to it.
Storm Rhode January 23, 2021 4:17 PM: It reminds me of the people who say the income tax is illegal and we shouldn't pay taxes. I'm sure they're right on paper, but irl doesn't work that way.
Ominous Cowherd January 23, 2021 4:20 PM: Avalanche wrote:Pulled them? Or said they were *going* to pull them.
I think it's still empty threats, but those empty threats indicate that at least three governors see no value in having their guard in DC.
Avalanche wrote:"Title 32, which would mean the forces were not federalized"

Except there is video of a bunch of them BEING federalized/sworn in.
Individuals being sworn in as deputy US Marshals is a radically different thing from their units being federalized. As Akulkis said the other day, Title 32 means the states are paying the bills for this, and that's a little surprising. Alaska is so broke right now that paying for the 60 guardsmen we sent is going to hurt.
CopperMaran January 23, 2021 4:21 PM: Coincidence? No coincidences

https://gizadeathstar.com/2021/01/pope-francis-seizes-vatican-bank/
Mikołaj January 23, 2021 4:29 PM: Best take I've seen by far: https://www.rooshv.com/president-joe-biden-is-a-blessing Trump was better than any president in my lifetime, but the bar was very low. Whether he faltered in the face of death threats, was betrayed or he chose fancy pants from the start and just played a role, he failed as a leader. The once witty "God Emperor" title was never earned and is ready to be unceremoniously retired. Enough jumping down Gnostic rabbit holes.
Ross January 23, 2021 4:31 PM: Surely this loan etc. is either historical fact or it is not. Historians should be able to easily verify it one way or the other.
As for the practical ramifications of it, that is another matte,r but once again the legal guys should able to clarify that.
Alex Martinez January 23, 2021 4:33 PM: I have a picture I captured that day, it explains I believe that situation.
Ross January 23, 2021 4:38 PM: The Gateway Pundit is reporting the troops in DC (or some of them) are being asked to stay until March !! The question has to be who is doing the asking and why?
AE January 23, 2021 4:47 PM: VD wrote: "Rest assured that I don't expect anyone who isn't already familiar with this sort of thing to believe it in any way, shape or form. And at this point, you shouldn't." Thank you for acknowledging that.

There are two additional facts that make this even more doubtful.

1. As Commenter 18 above has stated, a "historical" source that the linked website cites is https://althistory.fandom.com, a fan fiction website. Sadly, the Marshall Report blog post cites a fiction story about the Vatican on that website as though it is intended as factual history.

2. NG troops are withdrawing from DC as we speak.
tuberman January 23, 2021 4:57 PM: When Biden's extreme actions shut down the rest of the USA economy in a couple of short weeks, and even 30-40% of the left loses severe amounts of income, then they start saying FYou to longtime friends who only sort-of care, it should be interesting. This is already happening with people connected to oil, as their unions told them to vote Biden, and that Biden would be moderate. When gas prices and pharmacy scripts skyrocket, do ya think people will connect the dots? Reopening restaurants, bars, etc. won't matter much.

Some people I know said it will be former Leftists who will be the head of the pitch-fork/torch crews.
Daniel January 23, 2021 5:15 PM: Walter Graziano, an argentinian economist who predicted the 2008 crisis and have some serious anlysis of 9/11, 311 in Madrid etc once wrote let's analyze the usa. The usa is something which is not ckear what it is
Went throught virgina company, etc etc and came to similar conclusion. Never left my mind that part
xyzzyx January 23, 2021 5:18 PM: @VD: If Biden does not have control over the military, who in the US Military is invading Syria right now?
Crush Limbraw January 23, 2021 5:38 PM: Factual or not - it's irrelevant!
What was the lesson from the election just past that is so painfully obvious now?
In one word - our side lacks INFRASTRUCTURE!
I'm sure that Trump discovered that hard fact, if not in the early years of his presidency, they must have become crystal clear in the last few months.
Whether government, religion, politics, culture or you name it - our enemies built theirs, often using our resources, and now control every meaningful institution to shove it in our faces. Read - www.crushlimbraw.com - I wrote that script 5 years ago and was a latecomer to that ugly fact.
Actions, or lack thereof, have consequences.
Government? We defaulted to the termites who now own it.
Religion? Jesus said 'Go make disciples of all nations....'
Those termites took over our churches and church schools to make disciples for Old Scratch!
You get the rest of the idea. Yet, how many of us still send our kids to DaPubicScrool factories?
What is Vox Day doing - NOW? He's building his own INFRASTRUCTURE - NOW!
All this means is we have stop pretending that we're going to turn around 100+ years of neglect and expect some human messiah or superfragilistexpialidotious idea to save our bacon - and repent of our delusions.
Blaming the damn termites is not an excuse for losing our house - look in the mirror first.
Faith without WORKS is DEAD!
Cary Kembla January 23, 2021 5:57 PM: "Wictor still seems to think that "the rule of Law" matters. It doesn't."

Wictor is like the Charles Manson of the internet. He's seen as a guru by many wide eyed innocents, but is actually right about very little, although admittedly he does have a certain idiot savant talent for assessing battle scene footage and identifying anomalies. He thought that the 2020 election was fraud proof for Trump because massive turnout would overwhelm the fraud, not apparently realizing that voter machine hacking would make turnout irrelevant. And like most internet gurus, he just moves on from his constant wrong predictions as if nothing happened. That's what I appreciate about Vox Day's thinking on this blog, always being careful to avoid premature conclusions means you almost never have to walk back anything, and readers are encouraged to keep an open mind at all times. You're not corralled into definitive conclusions and are encouraged to regard observations here as data points for further exploration. That's the only way you can intelligently navigate today's information landscape, with so much digital fakery and so many key variables that are unknowable, at least currently. Then again, I'm pretty sure Vox has never worn a vegetable strainer on his head.

While I'm at it, another internet 'guru' to avoid is Scott Adams. He falsely and smarmily assumes that his talent for cartooning translates to smart observations on other subjects. The Dunning-Kruger runs deep in that one
Elder Son January 23, 2021 5:57 PM: 10 DAYS OF DARKNESS

10 – 9 – 8 – (7) – 6 – 5 – 4 – 3 – 2 – 1.
Tomsmith January 23, 2021 6:01 PM: Not sure how to say this..

Simon Parkes and Charlie Ward are con men. Liars, scammers.

This should be obvious to any English person via their mannerisms.
Tomsmith January 23, 2021 6:05 PM: Despair, I guess. It makes people believe outlandish things.
Cloudbuster January 23, 2021 6:06 PM: I don't waste much brain time on these types of theories. The powers of governments, corporations and secret contracts are only as powerful as the stability of the society that recognizes them. When an armed, angry mob is bearing down on you, waving your incorporation papers at them is ... less than effective.
MarkyMark January 23, 2021 6:26 PM: Folks,

I'll simply refer you all to 28 US Code 3002, para 15, clause A; it defines the United States as a FEDERAL CORPORATION! Don't believe me though; go to the source, and see it for yourself here: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/3002
kulicuu January 23, 2021 6:45 PM: RDS interviewed that one dude from Wyoming -- some SOCOM guy had a presentation on same dude from Wyoming. I think there is something to it, but that the personalities in the media presentations are just fronts. This is a tactical/operational decision. Classical civics you have some kind of 'ideas-man' charismatic leader. Then Rimbaud's "age of assassins" kicks in and they all get wacked. Now, from the abstract level this is because that node is a single-point-of-failure for the effort/project/'movement' what have you. On the other hand if you keep your C3 dispersed, and just propagate through colorful personalities and productions... you get the idea. You also get an idea of who is behind this, their capabilities, the depth of their thoughts on these issues. It's an extraordinarily deep subject, one of the deepest. I don't mean to be cryptic, it's just a lot of words. Read Roger Penrose in order to re-evaluate what's been sold on AI. Hence, strategic power is a function of the aggregate qualities of a body-politic, the living men. Intelligence is widely variable, way more than assumed, and it's way richer set of actual qualities than assumed under a single clerical token like that. 19th century industrialization made slaves of men. Slavery is The Fall. That's a bit deep, let's simplify: Slavery is sub-optimal for generating strategic power, because it weakens the body-politic. To run a war machine, you need raw talent, which comes from divinity, channeled through nature... that's kind of the gist of it. There may be better ways to articulate it.
Bezzle January 23, 2021 6:55 PM: @121. Gen. Kong January 23, 2021 2:01 PM
The United States was probably bankrupt by 1871. A lot of money was borrowed to fight the civil war, and the old railroad lawyer from Illinois tried to pay it back with worthless greenbacks (United States Notes) printed by the millions, which of course the (((usurers))) refused as payment. They paid him back for this insult by sending Mr. Booth to carry out his ultimate performance at Ford's Theatre - when the war they whipped up was safely won.

The Cabal assassinated Lincoln because, like Andrew Jackson, he refused to allow a central bank. They had financed Secession in order to establish a bank down there, and were livid when Lincoln enlisted the Russians to borrow their navy to help blockade ports during the war. The Cabal didn't win their war, they lost it. (The wound Russia dealt them was dealt was repaid in 1917.)

Trump had the portraits of both Jackson and Lincoln in the White House for a reason. Imagine being him watching his financed real-estate businesses get shafted into bankruptcy multiple times by economic swings orchestrated by the numerology-wallowing (((hive of scum and villainy))) at 33 Liberty Street.

He's going to destroy them.
Unknown January 23, 2021 6:57 PM: @jeroth #136

Obviously false, huh?

So who is now POTUS 46? Seems I saw a swearing in ceremony.

Where is POTUS 45? In Florida - Not D.C. Why is that?

Just exactly how long should we "Trust the Plan?" What would be a sign that it IS fake? How will we know when it was even enacted, let alone failed?

If I'm the one who is wrong, what could you tell me to convince me otherwise? After all, I'd love to have Trump get 4 more years, and I'm pissed that it didn't happen. How can you give me hope now that we have the Biden/Harris Admin, Nancy back as speaker, a Democrat Congress, and no storm, no unsealed indictments, and no sign of the Cavalry?

Am I really supposed to believe that the Vatican, the City of London, D.C. are the next key to all this? When what I can really see is the new (((Cabinet))), Soros DA's still letting people go, and a chorus of people calling for rounding up the normal people for re-education?

Am I supposed to trust some letter from 4Chan or wherever over my lying eyes?

Sorry if this bothers you, but we've waited the 48 hours, and we no longer get promised arrests that have not happened, but now we get City-State collapses, Corporate dissolutions, and no more taxes??

How much farther can the goalposts move? When does reality actually sink in?

You guys want a black pill. Take a look at this link. It shows how things typically go from here, and I don't see anything besides normalcy bias indicating otherwise:

https://metallicman.com/laoban4site/what-the-progressive-liberals-have-in-store-for-conservatives/

Maybe, just maybe it is time to accept the evidence that Q was as reliable as Miss Cleo of the TV Psychic Network and move on.

Or, please, give me anything at this point that a reasonable person would find credible.

Anyway, I'll leave it at that. I do promise to come back and apologize if I'm wrong - nothing would make me happier. But I think our energy would be better spent starting a garden and learning some new shtf skills.
GammaCatch January 23, 2021 7:01 PM: Whatever is going on in DC right now, it is entirely unnatural. There are layers and layers and layers of this, and it extends to every State and County government down to the local dog catcher. Pennsylvania is a Twilight Zone episode every day. People are skittish, hostile, or mute. I have never seen anti-White and anti-Rightist views thrown about as casually as I do now. Allentown and Kutztown were going down hill, but now it is not safe to go there in a very real way. Redding is a no go zone if you are White. I would not go there in the middle of the day. Crimes have been going unreported for at least two years, but now that has gone to eleven.

And if it is like that here, it is, or is becoming, like that all across the USA. The Cancer in DC is just waiting to let the blood flow to the rest.
SmokeyJoe January 23, 2021 7:04 PM: 141 Storm Rhode
"It reminds me of the people who say the income tax is illegal and we shouldn't pay taxes. I'm sure they're right on paper, but irl doesn't work that way."

Exactly. Because people with weapons will show up and make you pay. That is the way the world works.
People with weapons will show up and make you do whatever they want unless you and your armed people can stop them. Been going on since going on was a thing.
Papers,words,laws, courts blah blah are because most people are comfortable and don't want to unass and take care of business. Now when they get uncomfortable...
Snidely Whiplash January 23, 2021 7:20 PM: The District Of Columbia Act of 1871 was an historical fact. It reorganized the government of the district. Some background is needed;
Prior to the Act of 1871, the District of Columbia was minimal. It had an appointed governor, two counties, and two cities, Georgetown and Washington. It had whatever money the Federal government decided to give to it, plus whatever the local government could dig up. It was also famously corrupt.
After the Civil War, Congress wanted to develop the roads, water and sewer systems so that they could live a better, more comfortable life in the city.

The Act is a charter for a reorganized government for the district, abolishing the city government of Georgetown and Washington, and the county governments of Washington and Columbia counties, consolidating all government into a single entity elected by the locals, and a Board of Public Works appointed by both the local government and the FedGov.

Perhaps most importantly in this discussion, there is no grant of independence or sovereignty in the Act. Act conspiracists want to claim that the district is sovereign in the same way that the City of London is sovereign. It simply isn't.

The text of the District of Columbia Act of 1871 is here: https://www.loc.gov/law/help/statutes-at-large/41st-congress/session-3/c41s3ch62.pdf
The Lab Manager January 23, 2021 7:26 PM: https://geopolitics.co/2014/12/23/the-top-of-the-pyramid/

"There are two operant Crowns in England, one being Queen Elizabeth II.
Although extremely wealthy, the Queen functions largely in a ceremonial capacity and serves to deflect attention away from the other Crown, who issues her marching orders through their control of the English Parliament.

This other Crown is comprised of a committee of 12 banks headed by the Bank of England (House of Rothschild). They rule the world from the 677-acre, independent sovereign state know as The City of London, or simply ‘The City.’
The City is not a part of England, just as Washington D.C., is not a part of the USA."
Elder Son January 23, 2021 8:04 PM: Here is your constitution:

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/usconst.asp

Now, square it with every federal law, statute, code, regulation, treaty, and agencies a to z, and etc.

Good luck. You have had 200+ years of congress legislating the shit out of you.
Coroña DeNier January 23, 2021 8:11 PM: Yeah KL is great. Def print off his docs to have a hard copy in hand. Very interesting stuff!
KentuckyMAGA January 23, 2021 8:21 PM: The True Great Awakening on Telegram is dropping all kinds of stuff. The clips that show odd things in the Biden inauguration is fascinating.
Dire Badger January 23, 2021 8:23 PM: kulicuu wrote:RDS There may be better ways to articulate it.

There is. The Industrial Era turned humans into Machine Cogs, and they are not very good at being machines. Individuals are much more creative, innovative, and productive. But they are harder to control.

China is even more cog-centric, which is why they have basically no creativity or innovation and all of their production is forced.

Slave societies only work when there is no other way to get productivity out of a people. Certain third world groups, for example, are ONLY productive when they are enslaved, but individuals are still vastly more productive if they are capable.

The Dream of Globalists is to turn the entire world into their personal sex and productivity machine. Fortunately, that is utterly impossible, but the attempts to do so will always lead to vast amounts of human misery.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 January 23, 2021 8:28 PM: Boom! High-clearance military leaks to chans. This is what's actually happening:

Military is in control. Trump is sidelined for now. Military hardcore constitutionalists refused to let him invoke the Insurrection Act.

This means no "corporation of USA" nonsense. We're in the real. The primary goal is to avoid a civil war.

Logical outcome: Biden's election is fraudulent and won't stand.

Q is military and thus still very relevant. Leaker isn't Q, so may know less than Q.

The SCOTUS case | Great Awakening dot win
VFM #7634 January 23, 2021 8:58 PM: Some people I know said it will be former Leftists who will be the head of the pitch-fork/torch crews.

@149 tuberman
Makes sense... it's not like they haven't had lots of practice in the last year.
VFM #7634 January 23, 2021 9:02 PM: Pennsylvania is a Twilight Zone episode every day. People are skittish, hostile, or mute.

@162 GammaCatch
I blame covid and the masking and social distancing craze more than anything for that. Half the population having been brainwashed into thinking you can die if another human being even gets close to you is making society sink into madness.
William D. Ware January 23, 2021 9:07 PM: This site needs a second cleaning of the dreaded black death pill...so many recriminations...so little faith...a scene comes to mind...https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3u3x45
RedC January 23, 2021 9:22 PM: My concern is “The Negotiator” won’t have the courage to follow through with something like this. Him playing conventional politics and trying to campaign in 2024 seems far more in line with his character.
Stg58/Animal Mother January 23, 2021 9:22 PM: Bullshit. The Queen does not need permission to enter London.
Didas Kalos January 23, 2021 9:39 PM: @unknown. The RCC is more involved than you think.

https://www.amazon.com/Operation-Gladio-Paul-L-Williams-audiobook/dp/B00WAFNR7G/ref=sr_1_35?dchild=1&keywords=Paul+williams+author&qid=1611455879&sr=8-35
tuberman January 23, 2021 10:10 PM: >> Despair, I guess. It makes people believe outlandish things.

You guess Wrong, and it's wishful thinking on your part. I doubt if any here have despair, and even people who believe in this stuff are not in despair. I see all the unhappy people on the "winning" side, looking over their shoulders, so it's much like they are in despair.

What people do know for certain, is this is all a farce, and the Uniparty running it are a joke. That should scare shills like you. This will not stand, no matter.
Snidely Whiplash January 23, 2021 10:43 PM: The City is not a part of England, just as Washington D.C., is not a part of the USA."
See, here's the thing: it is not only part of the USA, it is owned by and dependent on the USA.

The Queen of England may not enter The City without permission of the local Lord, the Lord Mayor of London. Legally it is his desmense, and he is sovereign within it. The FedGov may at any time raze DC to the ground with nones permission, and without violating a single law.
Tommy Hass January 23, 2021 11:02 PM: Yes it is. Military Tribunals are courts. They have said themselves that it will be "solved in courts".

You badass you.
Tommy Hass January 23, 2021 11:02 PM: Unlikely.
Valtandor Nought January 24, 2021 12:44 AM: Stg58/Animal Mother wrote:Bullshit. The Queen does not need permission to enter London.

Snidely Whiplash wrote:The Queen of England may not enter The City without permission of the local Lord, the Lord Mayor of London. Legally it is his desmense, and he is sovereign within it.

I thought it wasn't so much to do with feudal customs, as the ancient liberties of the City of London (the tiny area roughly corresponding to Roman London) that pre-dated, and were recognised in, Magna Carta. Unlike some cities in the UK, London was never granted a municipal charter, because its status as a free city goes back to "before legal records began".

In most of metropolitan London, including Buckingham Palace and all the government area around Westminster, the Queen can more or less come and go as she pleases. Even in the City of London, I'm not sure she is prohibited by law from entering, but because her remote predecessors signed a contract saying they wouldn't, it would be considered extremely rude.

Even back then, London was a major commercial and financial centre. The freedom of the City of London from royal interference was probably a condition demanded by the City worthies before they would collect taxes or grant loans.
Unknown January 24, 2021 1:34 AM: Never thought I would see comments about the corporate government side of things on Vox's page. I think a little explanation is necessary for people to understand what they are looking at. We technically have two governmental bodies, one is the Trust body called The United States of America(see passports as an example), the other is the incorporation created by the act of 1871; the United States.

The constitution does recognize one form of man made law higher than itself and that is contracts or equity(article 1 sec 10). Which leaves an interesting question can the constitutional government create a non-constitutional body?

Well the common-law trust is a body made from contracts. The original constitution viewed the nations that formed the states as the original beneficiaries. The united states citizen is actually a people who "live" in D.C. and Reside in the states(resident is a commercial term for someone who lives in one place and is in another place to do business, with the intent to return home). The dreddscott case makes this matter clear, those born within the states have two "citizenships"; one in the state they were born to, and the other is a gift from D.C.
Snidely Whiplash January 24, 2021 1:52 AM: Unknown wrote:We technically have two governmental bodies, one is the Trust body called The United States of America(see passports as an example), the other is the incorporation created by the act of 1871; the United States.

Don't lie.

I provided a link to the actual text of the District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871. Please quote here the section that creates an incorporation to be called the United States.

There is no such section.

The assertion is completely false. Stop lying, stop spreading the lie.
VFM #7634 January 24, 2021 3:41 AM: My concern is “The Negotiator” won’t have the courage to follow through with something like this. Him playing conventional politics and trying to campaign in 2024 seems far more in line with his character.

@RedC
Maybe his plan is in fact to pull a Grover Cleveland. The way things are going already, Democrats will be so loathed and despised in 2024 that their election fraud machine may fall apart from a simple lack of volunteers to keep it running.
Josh Brown January 24, 2021 3:41 AM: What a surprise that a book by journalist Craig Unger, who had previously written up the Russia Collusion conspiracy, has just had another book published about DJT's dealings with Epstein and 'decadent' sexcapades with teenage girls under the age of consent at Epstein's NY house. Pure coincidence the release date surely.
Jim January 24, 2021 6:34 AM: based on 1871 Q-drops discerned by listening to the Washington town crier backward?
Cwyn January 24, 2021 9:46 AM: Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't. The only certain thing is this isn't over. Maybe the media simply have to be made to treason themselves more. Who knows. But Flynn did say be patient until the 31st. This suggests the military will move around the 31st.

That being said, it would not surprise me to find this true. DC does indeed need to be dealt with, as does demonic lawyer-ism. If you want to really make your head spin, look into the forgotten 13th amendment which supposedly bans all lawyers from running or holding office. (https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-case-of-the-missing-13th-amendment-to-the-constitution)
Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2021 10:12 AM: Unknown wrote:So who is now POTUS 46? Seems I saw a swearing in ceremony.

Where is POTUS 45? In Florida - Not D.C. Why is that?
The Plan had a legitimate and wildly popular president to effect it. That has been thrown away, and thanks to Congress, Courts and military, the full power of the president is in the hands of the enemy. If that's the plan, it's a very stupid one.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 wrote:Military is in control. Trump is sidelined for now. Military hardcore constitutionalists refused to let him invoke the Insurrection Act.

Logical outcome: Biden's election is fraudulent and won't stand.
Sidelined for now?

Is ``military hardcore constitutionalist'' the new euphemism for traitor?
tuberman January 24, 2021 10:40 AM: >> Boom! High-clearance military leaks to chans. This is what's actually happening:

Naw, no Boom, just someone jerking your chain. Nobody knows anything at this point, but that's fine.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 January 24, 2021 11:37 AM: What part of "POTUS must remain neutral" and "10 days of darkness" didn't you understand?

You're upset because you believe Biden is the real president. If so, why haven't any Marines saluted him? Why was his inaugural salute 3 cannons slow instead of Trump's 4 cannons fast? Why did he receive a wrinkled flag? Why do White House streams get interrupted with culpatory audio bursts? Why does the Oval Office appear to be a Castle Rock movie set? Why was the inauguration held virtually without the normal symbols, the press on a distant rooftop? Why is DC still surrounded by thousands of troops through March?

Now that I think of it, the US corporation thesis is compatible with the foreign dignitary gun salute for Biden. The most substantiated piece of all of it, though, is that Biden's a sham president and the military is in control of sorting out the massive foreign interference in a US election.
Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2021 12:41 PM: Leo, why would the military play along with a fake president, and give him the veneer of legitimacy?
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 January 24, 2021 2:57 PM: Biden's inauguration video has him receiving salutes, but they're given ambiguously to a crowd of VIPs and it's a movie production to boot.

Seeing unambiguous salutes in the field would be different.

I think foreign guests of state are also saluted by US soldiers. So presence of salutes proves nothing. But Marines not saluting indicates disrespect. Which the wrinkled flags also indicate -- they are present on McCain and Bush Sr's caskets as well.

> Leo, why would the military play along with a fake president, and give him the veneer of legitimacy?

This is a backwards question. If Biden's presidency is fake, it's because USMIL is staging the whole production, likely with the help of the Castle Rock production company.

Why would they do that? Some possible reasons:

1. To maintain an appearance of normalcy, and avoid provoking civil war
2. To buy time for a thorough investigation and rectification that minimizes collateral damage
3. To observe continued criminal behavior as the Dems attempt to bluff through it
4. To misdirect adversaries
5. Because Q wants the US population to hate the Uniparty owned by the Cabal
6. To build popular support for some epic corporate bankruptcy of the federal DC swamp.
7. Because a Biden presidency is horridly funny, and to destroy an enemy, he must be made ridiculous.

Biden spending time in that Oval Office mockup makes him appear less legitimate by the day. What I read is that the leftists were celebrating, but now they're depressed and don't want to talk about politics, while the rightists are furious and energized. This is good.
tuberman January 24, 2021 3:29 PM: >> Why would they do that? Some possible reasons:

1. To maintain an appearance of normalcy, and avoid provoking civil war
2. To buy time for a thorough investigation and rectification that minimizes collateral damage
3. To observe continued criminal behavior as the Dems attempt to bluff through it
4. To misdirect adversaries
5. Because Q wants the US population to hate the Uniparty owned by the Cabal
6. To build popular support for some epic corporate bankruptcy of the federal DC swamp.
7. Because a Biden presidency is horridly funny, and to destroy an enemy, he must be made ridiculous.

Biden spending time in that Oval Office mockup makes him appear less legitimate by the day. What I read is that the leftists were celebrating, but now they're depressed and don't want to talk about politics, while the rightists are furious and energized. This is good.

Yep, Leo, I would go along with this, so worthwhile analysis.
JWM in SD January 24, 2021 4:40 PM: The 1871 corporation argument is bullshit though. The others cited might be plausible but not that.
Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2021 5:48 PM: From your link:
NOTHING you have seen so far was EVER going to be “big enough” to end the global elite’s 5 families, and the international Communist cabal’s 1000 year and 100 year plans (respectively) to absorb the last free nation on the planet.
Fair enough, none of the events of the last 4 years has been sufficient to turn things around. That suggests to me that the next six days won't either.

Leo, the big thing that makes me doubt this kind of story is that we have seen so much unequivocal evidence of corruption in the officer corps. If these stories are true-ish, odds are good that most of the behind the scenes infighting is happening within the officer corps, as the Imperial loyalists who make up the side we identify with Trump battle the globalist grifters, and the American patriots - if there are any - quietly make plans to go home and take their units with them.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 wrote:1. To maintain an appearance of normalcy, and avoid provoking civil war
2. To buy time for a thorough investigation and rectification that minimizes collateral damage
I think those ships sailed long ago. I suspect we are long past the point this can be ended peacefully. Of course, that doesn't mean that Imperial loyalists in the officer corps don't have false hopes. Line officers are selected to not be too terribly smart, according to my second lieutenant college room mate.
Ominous Cowherd January 24, 2021 9:29 PM: Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 wrote:I think foreign guests of state are also saluted by US soldiers. So presence of salutes proves nothing. But Marines not saluting indicates disrespect.
Pretty sure saluting is deeply ingrained in the military. If there is widespread disrespect, the officers must have spread the word that they will get away with it. Could that word be spread without word getting out? Either we have to believe that not saluting is suddenly OK in general, or that 25,000 NG troops were told not to salute the new president, and none of them wrote home to mama about it.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 January 24, 2021 11:57 PM: Not sure how you're quoting from the argument to the link I posted, since the comment didn't go through.

Normalcy and civil war are gradients. It can always get worse, and will. This is from the perspective of USMIL, not my own.

I don't doubt there's an aging cadre of hardcore Constitutionalists in the USMIL brass. We already know the Joint Chiefs of Staff stand with Biden, and that's no surprise either.

Q has always been Boomer military Constitutionalists. And they've always had what it takes to stop the Looney Left, but not the demographic Left. All of this is boringly predictable at the strategic level.
Ominous Cowherd January 25, 2021 8:51 AM: Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 wrote:I don't doubt there's an aging cadre of hardcore Constitutionalists in the USMIL brass. We already know the Joint Chiefs of Staff stand with Biden, and that's no surprise either.
They would definitely be getting old. There were traitors in the White House for longer than the typical military career: Bush, Clinton, Clinton, Bush, Bush, 0bammy, 0bammy: seven terms makes 28 years. There is no one left in the military who can remember being led by Americans. For decades embracing the poz has been the overriding concern of every career officer. I suspect that by the time they make o-5 they have realized either they make their bones with the globohomo faction, or they get forced out. If there are any hardcore constitutionalists left, they will have gone 20+ years without expressing or openly acting on those beliefs.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 wrote:Not sure how you're quoting from the argument to the link I posted, since the comment didn't go through.
It went through for a little while. Maybe Snidely can tell us what happened?
Ominous Cowherd January 25, 2021 8:52 AM: Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 wrote:Q has always been Boomer military Constitutionalists. And they've always had what it takes to stop the Looney Left, but not the demographic Left. All of this is boringly predictable at the strategic level.
I've been saying for a long time that Trump/Q (or maybe Q/Trump) were never going to be what we needed, but they were the best we could get.
Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 January 26, 2021 5:38 PM: I assume that any Marine the USMIL stands in earshot of the President was selected for ability to keep a secret. Same for the guys handling funerals of McCain and Bush Sr.

It's a series of snubs. The WH door being locked. No AF1 for the trip to the inauguration. I read that the 21 gun salute didn't occur at the right time during the swearing in, leaving an awkward pause. Etc.

The unstoppable force and the immovable object: Biden's shameless plowing vs USMIL contempt.

> Either we have to believe that not saluting is suddenly OK in general, or that 25,000 NG troops were told not to salute the new president, and none of them wrote home to mama about it.

False dilemma. Facing some NG outwards during motorcade guard duty is probably normal protocol. Clearly nobody tells those guys anything. What's conspicuous about the NG is what they're NOT being told: "You're here to defend the legitimate Biden from invasive rednecks, and your rules of engagement reflect that."

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