Mailvox: composited in post
A professional cinematographer examines the President's most recent video and shares his conclusions:
I’ve been a camera and lighting man for over 10 years with experience in visual effects. In my opinion there is a high probability that that this video is composited in post. Regarding the low resolution: If he’s getting a deep fake head transplant then the low resolution would have the benefit of smoothing out the masking around his neckline in the profile shot as well as the overly sharp and unnatural edges that outline his body and the flags in the straight-on shot. (Rotoscoping)
Low resolution would also cover up any differences in sharpness if they are compositing together two or more layers with different source resolutions. For example, a 4K Trump head onto a 1080p Trump body and podium.
Higher resolutions allow for better motion tracking, if it is a deep fake they may have ripped the background and body from a previous speech at whatever the highest resolution was they could get. Dropped it in a 4K timeline with a rendered head and then outputted at 720 or 480 to smooth out and hide the quality disparity.
Take a look at the background... it appears to be a still image, it’s rock solid, no digital noise at all. In my opinion there is also additional bokeh added to it. (Blur)
Lastly, there are lens abnormalities. These are shot on longer focal length lenses, which means you will have dramatic focus falloff. When looking at the profile shot for example, the focus falloff between GEOTUS and flags is minimal. While it is significant between the flags and the walls. However, the distance appears to be greater between GEOTUS and the flag than between the flag and walls. This is not how lenses work, at the very least the background is being altered.
Running with the deep fake idea, it’s worth noting that this video is strikingly similar to the setup where he addressed the nation regarding voter fraud last month. By that I mean the same lighting, same angles and same lens focal lengths. That video was also the first time there was an edit which awkwardly cut to a side angle. Perhaps they deep faked this demoralization propaganda into that original video.
What does it all mean? I think it’s doctored
A prerecorded PR package concession speech from GEOTUS smells like total bullshit to me. Especially considering he’s been conveniently disappeared by the tech overlords since yesterday.
If I were to speculate it seems the Deep State is trying to deflate the public. Yesterday’s happenings showed the world just how vulnerable they are when the people are determined to exact justice. They need to have our leader kneel and become diminished in our eyes before we become even more emboldened. They need our submission, it is the only way they can prevail.
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Deepfake by the deepstate. Smooth orderly transition to military under General Flynn 4D chess wins again
The only question now is which studio owns the rights to Selection 2020?
Meanwhile, in the rest of conservative land, this is being swallowed whole with no gag reflex at all.
If the deep state forced him to read a concession, it would have referenced Biden by name as president elect. All eyes on Chris Miller at this point. If something is going to happen, it will be through him and special forces. Otherwise....
I saw 5/10 seconds of it and saw right away it was fake.
That would be really cool, if true. This is very on the money: Yesterday’s happenings showed the world just how vulnerable they are when the people are determined to exact justice."
so can't trump use bitchute or any other platform to declare the video untrue, is he universally banned
How fake can reality be?
Amazing Polly's latest 2 videos provide a good reminder that "the news" is often not what it appears to be. https://www.bitchute.com/channel/ZofFQQoDoqYT/
She references a 2005 article from Slate Magazine that is quite relevant to our current situation: You Can't Handle the Truth.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2005/09/psy-ops-propaganda-goes-mainstream.html
Amazing Polly appears to be an excellent researcher. She is vaguely Christian. Nice to have her Canadian viewpoint (she claims to be located in Kingston, Ontario).
We ain't in Kansas anymore. Yet some people are still completely asleep, completely oblivious to all of the jaw dropping developments and indications of a controlled legislature, a controlled judiciary, a controlled corporate media, a controlled social media. It's been shown that the laws or even constitution simply don't matter anymore. And still people are asleep and believe any narrative the media puts out in front of them. In December a deepfake spoof video of the QoE was shown and yet people still doubt that deepfake is or even can be used to mislead the public.
And as to the voice message for individuals with a large enough stock of their speech electronically recorded there is technology that can have them electronically say anything one wants.
I don't believe This was faked by the DS. If so, they would have been more explicit with a concession to Biden/Harris. And the side clip was 17 seconds; clear signalling.
I think it was faked for Trump, because however necessary the video may have been for the future of the operation, there are certain things in it that I would refuse to say; and perhaps he's quite busy at the moment,planning for an eventful next few days.
ok, but why would EOGEOTUS (enemy of) fake a "concession" vid for purposes of demoralizing 2nd-term supporters, but then FAIL TO NAME the "new administration?"
I don't see any kneeling in that video.
I see resolute, righteous defiance (cloaked in usefully ambiguous velvet) AND an explicit reinforcement of lawful, constitutional orderliness.
If this is doctored, it is hilarious that they couldn't edit a direct concession to Biden.
I've spent the day taking stock of various major figures I check in on from time to time, and roughly half believe this to be real.
Zooming back out to a broader perspective, I now understand why books were burned and intellectuals hunted during the 3rd Reich.
The social sciences exist to catalog methods of hacking cognition which are invariably put to use subverting organic development and assertion of individual and collective will.
This is a library of information that deserves to be burned, and the study of which should be banned.
There is no place in the underworld that will be hot enough for these Deep State jokers.
Thanks for this post, very informative. At best there is something very fishy about this, if only because of the message itself.
Trump would be insane to give up and turn back on his word like this at the last moment. He knows how important face and momentum are, in all facets of life, and by doing this and releasing it, he SHOULD know it would be the end of him, in every way.
Maybe release it just to get Barron and Melania out of harm's way before the shit gets heavy? No, he could have done that before without risking losing support and momentum from his base.
I'll take the expert's opinion: it looks doctored. I would not put it past Big Tech or Liberals to try and fake a presidential speech. They are all fakes themselves and have no conception of or respect for Truth, only for raw Power and Competition. They are driven by the Father of Lies, Satan Himself, and they know no bounds which they are not gleefully willing to break if it means hurting White Man and Christianity.
So, it very well might be a last-ditch effort to stop The Storm.
I figure and I hope that the Congress-critters are scared. If they are, then Jan. 6 was a success.
May God destroy His Enemies. May God have mercy upon us, forgive us our sins, and stay His Wrath.
I'm really hoping GEOTUS still has something up his sleeve, but I have to admit I'm astonished that almost everyone with both the ability and responsibility to stop this fraud decided to duck instead. I shouldn't have been, but I am.
Things do seem to be as the author describes. I will admit.
Also the speed at which Trump talks isn't like him. If you watch it on .25 speed the clipping looks even more obvious. Also if Trump is "conceding" why are they still pushing for impeachment with just 12 days left?
They need our submission
They love their symbolism and bizarre Promethean rituals so it could well be that part of their public "spells" require them to have us voluntarily submit for the spell to work.
I say it's too late, we can see right through the smoke and mirrors.
They truly are the church of the lie.
Furthermore, if something more is going to happen like the Italian affidavit, it must come from an objective source and NOT from Trump himself or his team. That means military and military intelligence.
Dunno if there’s any significance but my daily, almost hourly, stream of Trump contribution emails have stopped.
How did they get access to Trump's YouTube channel in the first place?
He does this thing with his upper lip when pronouncing vowels - like a pucker. Everyone knows his facial "tics" when speaking. But it's exaggerated when he's loud or angry, sort of like baring his teeth. It's not normal for him to do that in a calm tone, but that appeared several times in the video.
I think it reveals the biases of the film maker, who thinks he's angry all the time. They always reveal themselves in small ways.
A user by the name of Kill All Pedos made several videos featuring Mister Metokur where he made the voicelines out of whole cloth by cutting snippets of different things that Jim said and then chaining the snippets to match the script that he wanted the "Jim" to say in his videos (Jim has been out of the video making game since July w/ Curt Doolittle's fall).
Wanted to share this simply because said user is a single guy who made these videos in his free time while also having a full time job. Now consider Trump's speech. You could make the reasonable deduction that his speech could actually be a composite of several voice snippets of his various public speaking roles (From his primary/election speeches to stuff he has said on his TV shows, a lot of these controlled OP media companies have audio libraries of these things) fused together to make the "speech" we heard. A little sound editing and the relatively low quality of the video could mask the audio snippets that sound out of place.
Good to get some expert opinion. It's hilarious reading the "conservative" blogs at present: full of bow-tied admissions of defeat over bottles of Chateau Defeat 2021. "Well, we fought according to the Queensbury rules, but it wasn't enough. Shake hands and see you in 2024 when we're sure to win!" Geez. Thank God these people weren't at Valley Forge.
hmm, well hope the evidence from that whistleblower in Italy actually leads somewhere, seems like every piece of evidence given just gets denounced and burried by the demorilization fake news. #stopthesteal this ain't over till it's over!
The videos gave me the uncanny valley vibes. I am a bit on the spectrum and it provided me heebie jeebies galore. I don't doubt this at all.
Going back for second and third looks after reading this post is extremely interesting. Especially the information shared about the background. You cannot unsee that fuckery is afoot here.
Dumb question time: Why does the speech need to be made at a podium if its a recorded video. Surely it's unnecessary?
On the positive side, Dana White didn't cuck. He said he was never going to say anything negative about Trump. Vox might be right - they will come for the UFC next. I think they won't find it as easy as NBA. Imagine telling Khabib he has to kneel in front of a negrow. FFS the guy wouldn't even shake a woman's hand.
Why is Trump refusing to use any of the alternative media? Lots of people use Bitchute, Gab etc.
And if it is so, we're not seeing pushback from Team Trump via other possible platforms.
Might this be something that was cataloged as evidence that can be used in an upcoming offensive?
Max headroom is disappointed
I'm no tech guy. While the video looked off to me, I couldn't explain to anyone why. I don't know how a deep fake is accomplished. My first thought was something more simple. They just re-edited his speech a month ago and rearranged words he said then and in prior speeches. But I really don't know. It just seemed off. Heck, there could have been CIA SAD guys off camera with guns trained on him or Barron and that might account for his stilted manner.
The big clue to me, that something is up, isn't this video but Kayleigh MacEnney's short statement earlier that day. My wife said, before I could, two words came to mind: Under duress.
That video was damned odd. And now this. It's out-of-character to say the least. Something's up, I'm just not smart enough to know what.
Arguably, it was doctored crappily to inocvulate people against deepfakes.
I saw the video within the first 2 minutes of it being posted and 1080p resolution WAS available and then removed. I downloaded a copy in 1080p using y2mate and the file appears to still be intact at this link. https://file35.iijj.nl/?file=M3R4SUNiN3JsOHJ6WWQ2a3NQS1Y5ZGlxVlZIOCtyZ0YwL2cvMUFNaUJxNEhvSjhnMnErUU1jeGNKNk1LdzU3cE5kRmE5RExjT3ZyQUJCMmN1NGdaRXlQWnA4Wnp0QytidFlncFZjeE9SaGZzazd2bXhCZHZoaExoYTlySVVPcHdZR2N2NWhKRjBXUEI2dWlHdEJUc3RqT3VxRURJSVc4TGpUWU9MdWJSOXBwMzAzdkVZc2owd1pVV3BDS2E3STUyM3YrVHRRM3kvTGdCck01Z1UxUkxmYk5GL3JqQWpOdmNqVzRtMGNsRWlsM3FwUEx5UUowNUZhQ1FiUjVBWTNWYXA3NjZEVlZQbTNaUXFqN3RzS285L21rYmRMUjg1V2ZwcUtTNE5tN0pMcEtqRnRlWEkvSzQrNVNzczZvMDdoZVQ0UERSd1lsV3hRPT0%3D
I apologize for posting a strange and lengthy link but feel we have some of the best eyes to make use of the higher resolution here at the blog. One thing is for sure; the removal of the higher resolution option is purposeful.
The sifting of our souls as wheat... we're being shown who our god is, before we are being shown who our president is. May I be shown faithful in both...
Khabib retired...
and yes, he'd break their necks if they tried.
Like the pro, I too focused (ha) on the disparate appearances of the flags and the wall close behind it.
Steve Sailer has noted many times the extreme compressive effect of telephoto lenses. It is used for example to make beaches look much more crowded than they usually are.
The wall and flags look composited. The stars appear evenly illuminated even though it looks like there is a fold in the flag. I would expect more shadow. But the close cropping and carefully calibrated depth of field makes it hard to extrapolate much.
I can accept it’s a deep fake video but I can’t envision (yet) why the DS would do it and Trump not acknowledge it. You could say he was captured but we had one or two videos just like this before and have seen Trump live in person since and most recently in front of the enormous crowd at the DC rally on the 6th. His press sec Kayleigh was definitely live on camera in the WH press room yesterday (so she’s not captured). I don’t know why they wouldn’t acknowledge that bad actors are broadcasting fake Trump speeches.
So if it’s a deep fake, I say it’s from the good guys.
I hope that GE Trump and his family are safe. I don't know, but I felt some serious uncanny valley. And this brought about a feeling as if the person I was watching was no longer with us.
So, suppose the sociopaths and their self-licking ice-cream win this battle? What does that mean? I think it means they are doomed. They have sealed their fait. They broke the rules, and now they lose the war.
'Deep state is trying to deflate the public...'
Ain't that the truth. Black pills are everywhere, selling like crack-cocaine back in the day to similar effect.
Q predicted 10 days of darkness before this was all over an the good guys won. If I'm reading the tea leaves correctly, yesterday, the day of Pence' betrayal and the certification of the fraudulent election, would have been day o' darkness numero uno.
Hang in there, lads! Don't take the black pills. They're low hanging fruit. You gotta climb the tree for the good stuff!
So why are the White House and Dan Scavino still featuring the fake vid on their twitter feed? Jenna Ellis had it on hers last night as well but it is gone now. Maybe Team Trump made it to get enemies off balance, but because it is fake his words are not legally binding. ?????
Thomas Wictor still thinks Pence is on board.
Now the press thinks he's conceded.
Pelosi and Schumer want him out because they know SOMETHING is coming.
Pence played them, and so did Trump's cabinet.
They're resigning, so the 25th Amendment is not possible.
All this spook stuff is exhausting.
It has always struck me that President Trump often speaks in a disjointed way during interviews, and even in his speeches splices an aside into almost every sentence.
By contrast, private citizen Trump of the 80s and 90s speaks in smoother, less disjointed sentences.
I always assumed President Trump's way of speaking on camera is to deliver soundbites without giving the MSM sentences that can be conveniently repackaged for the Narrative.
Now I wonder whether another consideration is to speak publicly in a way that makes it harder to create deepfake videos from footage of him.
The audio in this video is in a completely different environment than the previous videos that had a similar setup and background. Those were had more echo and sounded like they were shot in a large room or a studio with poor audio setup, no curtains or battening to damp the reflections off of hard surfaces. I do not hear the same soundstage in this video.
If it turns out it is a DeepFake and it certainly does seem like it. It shows you just how desperate to the enemy has become.
The segment with the different camera angle is exactly 17 seconds long. A signal to those who haven't cucked or thrown in the towel, perhaps? And the video itself might be a distraction to keep the idiots busy, something Trump has done over and over again.
He always says "China virus".
He didn't say it.
Yep, my Fox News conservative buddies are pissed at Trump for being crazy, mean, blah, blah blah. I try to help them.
How did they get access to Trump's YouTube channel in the first place?
Is this a serious question? How did "they" get access to an account on Youtube, which owned by Google, which is as converged as any company on Earth?
Why would he do that at this point?! They would use thst denial as a basis for 25th amendment immediately.
Wouldn't this be by far the easiest part of the operation? Youtube is their home turf.
A UFC fighter supposedly stabbed both of his sisters in their sleep cuz a "higher power" told him to. An hour ago.
All assets deployed...
Does anyone believe trump would be able make only one media appearance right now and NOT mention facebook or twitter bans?
I must admit, I was pretty "deflated" this morning. Especially after seeing McEnany. Thank goodness for this blogspot.
If this video is a deepfake, then it was produced by a faction without access to a compliant Trump. The best explanation is that the Cabal has won. This does not fit the content of the video, which lacks a concession and signals 17=Q.
Your cinematographer offered evidence of editing, not deepfaking. The evidence is against a deepfake:
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2021/01/so-thats-weird.html?commentPage=2#c8784611294481432456
My best explanation for the editing is that Trump pre-recorded responses to Jan 6 contingencies. This freed him to retreat to a secure location immediately after the official Jan 6 event and coordinate the counter-coup as Pence, Pelosi et al began openly maneuvering to replace him. Trump behaved similarly during the election, vanishing to watch the steal live from a SCIF.
The advantage of this approach is that he need not expose his location and person on a video set for an assassination attempt.
Remaining loyalists on his team spliced together the raw video to craft a response to Jan 6 that would remove any pretext for the 25th. This is why Trump takes credit for "immediately" calling the National Guard, despite that it was Pence who actually did so. The prerecorded message did not anticipate the cold-blooded murder of Ashli Babbitt. Rather, Trump was anticipating Antifa violence in his pre-recorded condemnation.
The production values of the video editing are diminished, reflecting the reduced staff of loyalists upon whom he now relies. The fake background may reflect that the contingencies were recorded secretly, to avoid tipping his hand to his majority-traitor staff.
Fake or not, I do not care, as I'm not giving up, and I'll only give up on Trump following pedo Joe being placed into POTUS.
>> Also if Trump is "conceding" why are they still pushing for impeachment with just 12 days left?
Good question.
Mihia nichita wrote
How did they get access to Trump's YouTube channel in the first place?
Did you think at all before posting this? Google is part of the deep state dipshit.
Well, assuming this is true, and that the speech itself is doctored visually and has frankenspeeched audio - does anyone remember the time Definitely Not Meth had a website made of him where you could type anything in and it would say whatever words you wanted in his voice? He was unhappy. But that event alone, because it was done without his consent, is proof that the tech definitely exists and clearly isn't THAT difficult to produce.
But we know for a fact Trump has said the word "concede", because he has specifically said he does NOT concede. He has also said many variations of Biden and Administration. The word library to fake a direct and unambiguous concession exists, yet if this is doctored, it wasn't used. Assuming this WAS doctored, that isn't an accident.
@38 Khabib had 2 meetings with Dana very recently. Sonnen thinks they are preparing Khabib vs GSP in Welterweight. If so this is going to be the fight of the century. GSP has said multiple times he's onboard. God, I'm excited.
The video is anomalous. There are all the visual signs that have been painstakingly noted - and equally painstakingly avoided by the shills -, the Twitter studios credit, and the total difference from his previous video postings.
So anyone pretending it's a normal communication can be dismissed as a liar.
We already know the beast narrative is pre-written so of course the cuck gatekeepers are bleating surrender. Feigning surprise is either complicity or retardation at this point. They'd be beating that same drum with any prop they've been handed.
The wait and see question is what it means.
< b >How did they get access to Trump's YouTube channel in the first place?< /b >
Oh you sweet summer child...
Maybe this is a deep fake by the good guys that is bad enough in quality so that we could tell, and that the good guys did it so we would doubt the DS deepfakes that may be coming.
"Also if Trump is 'conceding' why are they still pushing for impeachment with just 12 days left?"
An impeachment and conviction would rule out a 2nd term starting 2024.
He has the emergency alert system. Everyone with a smartphone would get the message. I heard someone say that Q said the coms would be cut at some point. If so...when you turn em back on...open with your message.
“ by the DS. If so, they would have been more”
Going into the building was not part of their narrative. They weren’t prepared, at all. Let that sink in. That was not part of the narrative they were given. Any variety. By the number 1 that pretended to be number 3. For the first time in decades, these talking heads do not have a script for a guaranteed outcome. They had to resort to a shit deep fake, with an adhock message, they are so unprepared. Rejoice, and don’t be ready, be.
To relate, it’s like Guys Grocery TV show, where he works the word “go” into an innocuously sounding sentence, and it takes them a second or two for them to realize “oh shit, that means we are supposed to start.” Guy said “go” dudes, it’s started. The other side has started. The enemy is pushing forward, the center is falling back, and the ride never ends.
Maybe the Devil Mouse has a direct hand in this, too. They've been displaying the tech that they could've used for this in Star Wars. Could those examples have been a testing ground?
Vox will know about this... there is a facet of writing called "voice". Every writer has one, and they are unique. It's the words one uses, the phrasing, the meter. It is very hard to break out of your voice.
The "voice" of this video is what gets me. If this is Trump, then he is using a voice I haven't heard before. Maybe he is under coercion, or despondent. I think more likely, it's a fake. This is not something you can quantify, so I can't point to anything specific, but it "feels" fake to me.
In talking about the election he only mentioned counting legal votes and voter ID, nothing about Dominion which was the real problem. Also strange.
They couldn't edit in Biden because Trump always refers to him as Sleepy Joe. LMAO
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/07/donald-trump-announces-plan-for-smooth-transition-of-power-to-joe-biden/ Look what breitbart.com has become
>>must admit, I was pretty "deflated" this morning. Especially after seeing McEnany
Now would be a good time to avoid msm offerings. They're terrified because in the shift from red terror to takeover is the riskiest phase for stopping them cold. Covid-19 and the rioting was the red terror. If they get stopped the white terror starts worldwide.
Cortez used Montezuma as a hostage. It only worked so long before the people figured it out. I think the outcome will be different this time.
The Twitter comments are void of the normal vitriol and are packed with a "we love our president" sentiment.
One thing to keep foremost in mind at this point: the truth no longer matters. Simply "getting the word out" or "informing people" does not mean Jack shit now. Energy spent on such endeavor is wasted.
Information at hand should only be for determining what action to take for the moment, and both can change in an instant. And there is never going to be "one answer one solution". This made for TV notion has been like mind poison for two generations at least. All that endless text over every little detail spawning more endlessness over end.
In these times it would be best to think like you have just been punched in the face.
And for many this week, it was their first time.
Feel more alive though.
Here's some evidence that deepfake audio is so easy that even moderately convincing stuff can be done by a youtuber with way too much time on their hands:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk89hEhst88
I am sorry to say, there appears to be only one scenario where the creation and posting of this video makes any sense at all, and that is if the Trumps have been Romanoved. Anyone else notice that the Trumps and close associates did not tweet at all yesterday, except to post this fake vid? Something is going down. Why go to all the trouble to demoralize people for a few days before the Trump Hammer drops?
Makes no sense. A lot of effort for little return if The Plan is still active.
It doesn't make much sense for it to be coming from the Deep State, because as others have said, they would have made it a clear concession. They could also only do it if they have captured Trump so they can prevent him from saying it's fake. While that's possible, you'd think he would have been well-protected that day of all days.
On the other hand, if Trump's people made it, you'd think they'd have a video camera at any secure location he might be at, so why the need to fake or splice together anything? They could just shoot a video of him saying what he wants to say.
Something seems to have happened between the time the president said to come to D.C., "It'll be wild," and the time he said to go home in peace. It's hard to believe he simply lost his nerve because it got wilder than he expected. He's not just some guy; he's the president, who has had to decide when/where/if to drop bombs or send men into combat. He's the guy who walked through the DMZ. The narrative that he pussed out over the first "mostly peaceful protest" that actually stayed mostly peaceful doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make much sense whichever way I look at it, real or fake. I guess we wait and see.
I am sorry to say, there appears to be only one scenario where the creation and posting of this video makes any sense at all
You're completely wrong. That is one possibility. There are others, one of which is even more likely. Think harder.
So is consensus leaning toward put out on Trumps behalf by his team as a misdirect while he's in the Bat Cave prepping next phase?
Put out by DS to keep a lid on things while hes doing that?
Or has he been secretly 25thed? Etc
I didnt look at the video under a microscope because to me he always sounds a bit odd when really trying to stick to the script, since thats just not him, Mister Extemporaneous, and the situation would naturally be more awkward.
The opening warning on South Park is clips of Obama. It's obviously uneven, but it's done for a cartoon on a cable television show with super- low production values. They can do that for a crummy, throwaway cartoon series.
Arnold had a movie where the opening scene is him as a Los Angeles policeman doing riot control work. The body cams get spun up into a fake video of him attacking the poorly governed rioters.
I wonder if Arnold had been faithful to his beautiful Maria then he would have become President. She's the one in the Vanity Fair article saying he could not be President. He wanted to be President. He had earned everything else he wanted.
We keep reading about spooky, accurate Chinese facial mapping technology casually applied across entire cities. This is one man, one podium, not a pedestrian in motion tracked by a satellite. We hear about the Vietnamese prince who has a company scraping facial data across American social technology companies. Is he like the final Manchu Emperor who supported the Chinese Communists?
The 1080p version posted in comments looks fine to me, but I guess anything is possible with the right resources.
Hasn't the media been trying to push the conversations on deepfakes recently? If rumors about incriminating footage is to be believed, I think it could play into the DS hand if the authenticity of videos becomes a question mark.
I think it is simple. Fake video for fake concession.
Our host said something last night that I really think needs to be reiterated.
It was over the argument of "how many antifa were in the capitol".
We can argue until the cows come home about it.
But to paraphrase or emphasize how I interpreted it: because the truth no longer matters or makes a difference, optics no longer matters as well.
The media is going to lie about everything no matter what we do. An exhibit I could present is the occasional indulgence that /pol does, known as "orc poasting".
Now when I hear "optics" it's the stuff of bowties.
Theory number (lost count).
Bad guys are trying to get Team Trump to acknowledge deepfakes before Trump reveals shocking videos.
We’re literally watching a chess match unfold live in real time.
It doesn't make much sense for it to be coming from the Deep State
Unless the deep state has no idea where he is and is scared to death he's mobilizing.
Trump summoned legions on Wednesday. He has them if he only tightens his grip.
These guys (Robert Steele, Charlie Ward and Simon Parkes) think the people storming the capitol seized a lot of laptops of the congressmen and senators:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGtKdK0h84Y
"If the deep state forced him to read a concession, it would have referenced Biden by name as president elect."
I'm leaning increasingly toward cheapfakes. They weren't able to put audio/video pieces from real video of him together smoothly enough to get this simulacrum to say that. Given two more weeks though, my money's on them being able to put together a much more complete and convincing fake if they aren't in holding cells or dead by then.
Not true. Levin actually did a good job of outlining the election issues. The ones in court and the machines. The big Constitutional problem is with certification of ballots born illegally. PA MI passes laws outside of their legislature because of covid. Then the Dominion machines flipping ballots and leaving not audit trail. The ussc should have heard the evidence just for the illegally born ballots alone would have overturned results but they did not allow proper redress of grievances. The congress just certified illegal ballots and they know it too. A 3rd party needs to step as authorized by the current POTUS and that is still technically Trump.
Generally agree.
Could the DS have lost a president and his entire family? Now that is just careless. They must be in such a panic.
Operating on the assumption that this video is untrue in some way, I see a few possibilities:
1) The author of this posts’s perspective, that it was created by the deep state to demoralize supporters. Weaknesses to this theory are that it was released on all of Trump’s platforms, including the ones he was supposedly still free to post on, and there has been no message from any of the president’s team to contradict the video. Additionally, if they were going to all the trouble to do this, why not create a more explicit concession?
2) The video is authentic and Trump is actually just condemning his supporters and giving up. Weaknesses - many, including the video looking so weird and the speech lacking so much of his characteristic style. Additionally, there’s been no follow up from him of any sort on the message yet to clarify questions people have.
3) Trump released this as bait to his enemies to make them convinced he’s defeated. Weaknesses - it still doesn’t completely explain why he wouldn’t have released a normal statement if he wanted to convince them of the authenticity of his surrender.
Good questions from a forum post at RooshV:
Where is Trump?
We don't have any pictures, videos (of him with other people around, a natural setting, not staged) or messages of him since his speech at the rally on January 6th.
The same is true for:
Melania Trump.
Radio silence.
Donald Trump Jr.
Vanished.
Kimberly Guilfoyle.
Gone.
Eric Trump.
Disappeared.
Lara Lea Trump.
Nope.
Ivanka Trump.
Nothing.
Even Jared Kushner.
Nah.
Barron Trump.
Zero activity.
Tiffany Trump.
Same as everyone else.
I'm a conservative and know absolutely nothing about "doctoring" a photo. I'm gagging and even I know that this was "doctored" somehow. It was a stupid stunt.
It's getting to be amusing to see midwits and blackpillers and binary thinkers litter the comments with their feeble attempts at thinking (the ones who get through moderation anyway).
Guys - enjoy the show. Have some faith in God if you are a believer. Do your job. Take care of your friends and family. Open your minds.
"I can accept it’s a deep fake video but I can’t envision (yet) why the DS would do it and Trump not acknowledge it."
There is a final option that I had envisioned them trying even months ago, the complete schizo option. To be more descriptive, they throw out the bathwater and go for a complete information stream power play, cutting off as many potential sources of contradictory information as possible, then broadcast their desired reality to everyone, on all channels, all the time.
This matches them finally deplatforming Trump everywhere simultaneously. If he can't get any verifiable word out to the masses, he can't direct them after our enemies, taking that card off the table for him.
Some other things we should expect to see immediately in this scenario, are:
-New and narrative-conforming information coming from channels that are usually quiet, as the DS attempts to take over all comms.
-Sudden silence from less important voices that the DS couldn't find ways to coopt and weren't important enough to require fake-ups.
Some things we should expect to see in the next few days to weeks of this scenario include:
-Lockdowns of most other forms of common interpersonal communication in order to "find traitors (deplorables) and bring them to justice", "calm social unrest", or some excuses along those lines.
-"Sudden unrelated shutdowns" of web service and sites whose owners/operators "resigned", "went on vacation", "have family emergencies", "rethought their actions", and so on.
-Ramped up scamdemic lockdowns to prevent word of mouth "grapevine" communications.
The endgame here is DS controlled sources providing all information input. Can't fight what you can't know.
@12 "ok, but why would EOGEOTUS (enemy of) fake a "concession" vid for purposes of demoralizing 2nd-term supporters, but then FAIL TO NAME the "new administration?"
I don't see any kneeling in that video."
Because to DEEP-FAKE Trump "kneeling," they'd need to have some source video from somewhere OF Trump kneeling. No such thing exists. Even in his most disturbed or dismayed about e.g., deaths of soldiers, Trump NEVER kneels, metaphorically or otherwise.
> On the other hand, if Trump's people made it, you'd think they'd have a video camera at any secure location he might be at, so why the need to fake or splice together anything? They could just shoot a video of him saying what he wants to say.
That would harm opsec. The CIA is good at video analysis to determine someone's location. Why trust a camera crew with that info, and with proximity to the president? And why waste time on speeches when it's time to act? Trump has no problem vanishing and building tension.
Besides, why not make it ambiguous whether he's incapacitated? The weaker he looks, the more attractive the sting. When hunting shark, chum.
> I didnt look at the video under a microscope because to me he always sounds a bit odd when really trying to stick to the script, since thats just not him, Mister Extemporaneous, and the situation would naturally be more awkward.
He hasn't been speaking naturally in public for decades. The public would never accept his real IQ.
" Also if Trump is "conceding" why are they still pushing for impeachment with just 12 days left?"
They want to strip him of CinC status before he could potentially put warheads on their foreheads and boots in their butts.
@The Lab Manager
Was wondering the same. Some had that weird Trump video as their last retweet, before going radio silent.
So, they're either in custody or in hiding
"Bad guys are trying to get Team Trump to acknowledge deepfakes before Trump reveals shocking videos."
That's possible.
Here's another: Trump's going GE whether he likes it or not, either early, physically present GE, or later divine figurehead even though he's physically motionless and strapped to the golden throne.
@40 "I can’t envision (yet) why the DS would do it and Trump not acknowledge it."
What did Q do over and over to 'hone' our weaponized autistes? He gave them clues and the entrance to one or more rabbit trails. THEY did the work. THEY did the digging and reporting.
He did NOT post a clue, then immediately disassemble it for them. He sat and WAITED while they worked it out. Look at all the work being done here and elsewhere. Look at all the people spreading this news, trying to reach the normies.
How is Trump's apparent "lack of response" in any way different from the last 4 years?
the people storming the capitol seized a lot of laptops of the congressmen and senators
Great. Add them to the pile with Hunter's laptop, Weiner's devices, the Awan hard drives, and others. There's no court of justice in which to present such evidence, except the court of public opinion, which is only reachable now via the Emergency Broadcast System, if that. They could be useful in prosecuting traitors when we have courts again, but Trump or other patriots have to take back the government before that can happen. First things first.
@80 "She's the one in the Vanity Fair article saying he could not be President."
The Constitution SAYS he cannot be President. He is a foreigner.
@11. Sam January 08, 2021 5:55 AM
And the side clip was 17 seconds; clear signalling.
17 seconds, 183 milliseconds.
I think it was faked for Trump, because however necessary the video may have been for the future of the operation....
Since becoming aware of Q, I am firmly of the belief that Trump was a hired man, and also control-filed himself (even the most resolute of mortal flesh lacks perfection), e.g., the covid/revovery/pizza-sharing message sent last autumn. He is guaranteed a good legacy.
His non-public speeches and tweets are written and vetted in advance (as they invariably are for other public figures as well) by the founding team. It all must be very carefully managed (think how much effort goes into a "Q proof", precise post time-stamping, and so forth).
Is the video a deepfake? Possibly, but it doesn't seem particularly necessary, if it's put out by the good guys. Note: I don't consider green-screening, apparel swaps, color changes, or other such embellishments to be, strictly-speaking, deepfakery. If the video were enemy action with a completely faked or overlain digital Trump head or face, then yes, it would be a deepfake.
On that note, any commentator not examining the unaltered 1080p video downloaded from YouTube with a *streamcopy* utility (JDownloader2 is one such) and then viewing it on a display with at least equivalent resolution, has nothing worthwhile to contribute to this discussion.
@31. Pencil Maestro January 08, 2021 6:44 AM
Why is Trump refusing to use any of the alternative media?
The video is on Trump's Gab page.
@56. Leo Littlebook January 08, 2021 7:26 AM
My best explanation for the editing is that Trump pre-recorded responses to Jan 6 contingencies. This freed him to retreat to a secure location...
The advantage of this approach is that he need not expose his location and person on a video set for an assassination attempt.
Bingo. We should also be open to the possibility or even probability of one of more Trump body-doubles (and this is certainly the case if one entertains the theory that Pence was "replaced" in the summer of 2018).
The production values of the video editing are diminished, reflecting the reduced staff of loyalists upon whom he now relies.
Leo, he has the same number of "loyalists" as before, and he is now where he belongs, among his most loyal-of-all supporters: the troops.
The production quality is lower because such qualities are no longer necessary (i.e., as a bright shiny to win undecided voters to the polls, where his team could track where Dominion shunted it).
Most if not all Trump tweets and short-form speeches are code. "John has a long mustache", etc. The Cabal has its "dog-comms" and similar. If the salient features of the video, its 17.183 second-long internal clip, is the *purpose* of it, then production-quality is immaterial.
@47. nswhorse January 08, 2021 7:15 AM
The segment with the different camera angle is exactly 17 seconds long.
No, it is not "exactly" seventeen seconds long. It is 17 seconds, 183 milliseconds long. If you have not clipped the video personally in editing tools capable of individual frame-selection, then you're either hack/guessing, or relaying claims made elsewhere without putting effort into verification.
@93. The Lab Manager January 08, 2021 9:21 AM
Good questions from a forum post at RooshV: Where is Trump?
We don't have any pictures, videos (of him with other people around, a natural setting, not staged) or messages of him since his speech at the rally on January 6th....
The logical conclusion is that they are now all safely bunkered.
"CASTLE_ROCK" (Q)
There is no further need for social-media indulgence for appearances sake, because any such are about to greatly eclipsed by more serious news.
An unrelated oddity I noticed when I went to re-watch his Ellipse speech: in the RSBN livestream, he comes out at 3:33:30 - a strange coincidence.
The latest tweet from Trump is the complete opposite of what he said last night, if indeed that was him who said it.
If the deep state made the video I think it's fairly obvious as to the why they made it. Demoralize us so we can go back to buying cheap Chinese shit and drinking our weekends away watching the sports ball, and of course accept President elect Harris.
If it's legit then I think it's obvious why Trump would have made it, Cassius Clay called it the rope-a-dope. From what I can see so far today, the left is saying told you so, the conservatives are heart broken over the "concession" speech and Josh Hawley can't get his book published. The gas lighting is at all time highs today.
12 more days, honestly I have no clue as to what will happen, I think it's time for me to stop trying to figure it out and enjoy the show.
It's difficult for me to imagine the DS having "Trump" tell us that our journey is only just beginning, or however he phrased that. It sounds much too encouraging for any message the DS would want to send. So I feel like if this video was faked, it was done at Trump's direction and there must have been other reasons for faking it.
Lab@93: Sounds like they're under Secret Service protection, and forbidden from posting to social media. Q mentioned the CIA attempted to hack and track Trump's location via his Twitter app. The same could be done to other VIPs. Any social media posting leaks some info.
And perhaps the paterfamilias has proclaimed that there will be no clucking while the RINO half of the Cabal walks into the kill zone.
Remember, the Monoparty can always afford to lose its left or right wing for a few years until anger fades. Revolution requires destroying both simultaneously. The goal is not 12 years of Republican rule. We are not cuckservatives swooning for Pence's commitment to divorcee frumpty cankles.
If it was deep state he'd have conceded. I think it's done by Trump to appear he's at the Whitehouse when he isn't. Deep State would never have included the last line.
Just a note, I think He meant short focal length lens. A long focal length lens does not have a narrow depth of field, and would be weird to use in a shot like this. A short focal length lens does have a dramatic focus drop off and is more suited for these types of shots.
If the DS had the upper hand, they wouldn't be able to get the shit-eating grins off their faces. That is not happening.
People who find it too intellectually and emotionally draining to deal with rumors and unreliable sources should quit paying attention to the news altogether and focus on some type of constructive activity. Take up woodworking, improve your medic skills, play with your dog. Because the alternative is to allow yourself to be subjected to a constant stream of enemy propaganda.
cofjjj wrote:ok, but why would EOGEOTUS (enemy of) fake a "concession" vid for purposes of demoralizing 2nd-term supporters, but then FAIL TO NAME the "new administration?"
I don't see any kneeling in that video.
I see resolute, righteous defiance (cloaked in usefully ambiguous velvet) AND an explicit reinforcement of lawful, constitutional orderliness.
Because the video attacks his supporters. Their loyalty is his biggest weapon. This is a clumsy attempt to make it seem like he is selling them under the bus. Look at all the shills claiming Trump "cucked and folded."
Blondie Callahan wrote:honestly I have no clue as to what will happen, I think it's time for me to stop trying to figure it out and enjoy the show.
Ha ha! Join me over here the corner. Drinks are on me.
This reminds me of the Kipling line that goes: "If you can hear the words you've spoken twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools..."
Another few asides: L Lin Wood's Twitter account was suspended some time yesterday. Sidney Powell is still up but hasn't tweeted since the 6th.
Ted Cruz has called the patriots who peacefully toured the Capitol Building "terrorists", and is bemoaning the death of a DC cop who had a heart attack at the station afterward.
USAToday is using its platform to doxx the patriots - the Deep State/media collusion is out in the open now (though for most of us it has been so for many years).
Assuming the video's a fake, where's Trump? How much power does he still have to wield?
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.
9:44 AM · Jan 8, 2021 Twitter for iPhone
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The warier of his enemies should be feeling their blood turning to ice-water right about now.
I will assume that no one is coming to save me until I see the cavalry charge in. If this is a misdirection then it is my job to be taken in and admit I was a fool later.
It took nearly a century to find the bodies of the Romanovs, murdered by the Bolsheviks in 1917.
THIS.
And the technology no longer requires a room full of servers. More like a modern laptop and access to a large dataset.
Funnily enough, back in 2019 or 2018 some web developer built a site that let you type any sentence ... and immediately hear the good doctor J B Peterson saying your exact words, Bucko. With realistic cadence too.
Within a week the site was order taken down...
Forget simple snippets of audio; modern faking is no longer just the classic old splicing together of clips. You can now use AI to combine parts of words but in real-time smooth out pitch and cadence; Machine-Learning and a large dataset makes that relatively easy nowadays. Especially compared to video.
And the technology no longer requires a room full of servers. More like a modern laptop and access to a large dataset.
Funnily enough, back in 2019 or 2018 some web developer built a site that let you type any sentence ... and immediately hear the good doctor J B Peterson saying your exact words, Bucko. With realistic cadence too.
Within a week the site was order taken down...
speaking of Deepfakes, has anyone seen this YT channel?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r-r6lFheKA&t=32s
Assuming the video's a fake, where's Trump?
After his other speech the evening of the Capital takeover (that appeared to be green-screened), a Nightwatch Boeing E-4b aircraft took off from Maryland flying to the National Military Command Center in Abilene, TX. Whether Trump was on it, we don't know.
Anyhow, I watched the video again in full-screen last night, sound off. And that head on the shoulders does seem odd. I found some other videos in the same setting and compared it to this last one. They were all crisp and sharp. Even in the worst video, you can still see all the background details on the wall surrounding the Washington portrait. And compared to the other videos, the angle of the video shoot is all wrong.
The thing I found the most odd, this is a 2 minute and 41 second speech. Why did they feel the need for 2 camera's? Why did they feel that they needed to switch the angle from straight on, to the side, and back to straight on? Why not just a straight up shot and get on with it?
Here are 2 short speeches in the same background:
https://www.facebook.com/WTKR3/videos/trumps-speech-from-the-white-house/2254983458081165/
https://www.facebook.com/KMTRNews/videos/president-to-address-nation-on-syria/10155720719781785/
No fuzziness, clean, crisp, details, and face not blurred.
The only other possibility, is that the video was taken elsewhere, say at the National Military Command Center, and this is a mock-up/green screen, and the video was taken by military videographers.
And he still hasn't said, the name.
I got curious so I did downloaded the speech about Election Fraud and the one from yesterday. Noticed they both have the exact same sign-off "Thank you, God Bless you and God Bless America. They identical in tone and just SLIGHTLY off on the cadence of "God Bless you". I overlaid just that part and aligned the Presidential Seal, nearly perfectly. It's obvious that the camera is in a slightly different position because the fireplace mantle and painting frame are in quite different positions. Just an interesting observation. Vox, if you're interested I'd be glad to send it along for review.
Why did they feel that they needed to switch the angle from straight on, to the side...
To get a shot of the Pilgrims portrait to convince you it is at the White House Diplomatic Room.
...the video was taken elsewhere, say at the National Military Command Center, and this is a mock-up/green screen, and the video was taken by military videographers.
Anyhow, we're going to find out, right?
I expect loud, for them anyhow.
This seems the only rational response at this point. Even before the prospect of deep fakes, this was becoming psychologically unhealthy to try to understand (for me). Add in the deep fakes, and I’m out. I’ll watch with wonder but not with any personal investment in the play by play details.
Here’s my opinion, not that I know anything about film or editions, at least not on the level of expertise as the author here. But the video looks too real. What I mean is, on every other video of Trump he has make up and lighting to enhance his appearance, much like digital filters. On this video however, you can see on close up details and flaws on his face that would appear as to imply that is his natural skin, but the resolution is bad. Also, it looks like several images are imposed to give it image the effect of being natural, no make up, no editing. It looks too real. And besides that it’s all too convenient and supports the lies that are being pushed on social media.
@105 "Why is Trump refusing to use any of the alternative media?
The video is on Trump's Gab page."
No. Trump DOES NOT HAVE a Gab page. That is a mirror/copy of his TWITTER page, ready for his use if he EVER COMES to Gab. It has been so for as long as it's been on Gab. So far as is known, Trump is not even AWARE Gab exists! Torba was NOT invited to any of the WH 'meetings about socials." Trump is not in any way connected to Gab.
JC wrote:If this is doctored, it is hilarious that they couldn't edit a direct concession to Biden.
If they did, no one would believe it.
Avalanche wrote:@105 "Why is Trump refusing to use any of the alternative media?
The video is on Trump's Gab page."
No. Trump DOES NOT HAVE a Gab page. That is a mirror/copy of his TWITTER page, ready for his use if he EVER COMES to Gab. It has been so for as long as it's been on Gab. So far as is known, Trump is not even AWARE Gab exists! Torba was NOT invited to any of the WH 'meetings about socials." Trump is not in any way connected to Gab.
Pretty sure that's about to change. Gab is picking up 60,000 users a day this week. It's vulnerable to demands from either Apple or Google. It has it's own servers, which are currently not are going to be able to handle the growth rate.
But it's like everything else surrounding this - the whole diseased system is coming down, and Gab simply isn't part of that system just like Social Galactic isn't.
Trump just got Parler taken down, too. I'm sure it was an honest mistake and not a calculated ploy to have his enemies take down a gatekeeper operation that has a bunch of unsuspecting people unknowningly corralled.
He literally just needs the password and he can seamlessly transition into his Gab account as though nothing happened, complete with his base already there waiting.
BREAKING: Parler Goes Down After Trump Joins Social Media Platform – Apple Threatens to Remove Parler Unless it Enacts Draconian Censorship Policies
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/01/breaking-apple-threatens-ban-parler-unless-enact-draconian-censorship-policies-demanded-big-tech-oligarchs/
After having elected Obama, the Constitution and natural born citizen is about as solid as a penumbra. Fifty five million dead babies are hidden under that penumbra of privacy. We have had the largest invasion in human history since 1965. Do you think a single one of those people support the Constitution? Do you think the more power mad among them support something restricting their own personal access to the seat of that power? Do you think natural born female Americans really care what the rules are?
I am specifying females because I read articles by swooning conservative female journalists talking about how sad it was that such an exemplary immigrant as Mr. Arnold Schwarzenegger could not be elected president of the United States. They were using their nerve endings to decide what was legal or not. They say empathy and emotions, I say other nerve endings.
I am wondering out loud about it because there's almost a playbook on how to become President from an outside position- massive pop culture reach, a few governmental-type initiatives: President Reagan was a buff football player, good actor, president of the SAG, and then spokesman for GE, touring the country for GE, talking to factory workers from blue collar to white collar. Schwarzenegger had owned several businesses, was a real estate developer, became a movie star, toured the world for both fitness supplements and movies, talked to everyone from criminals to CEOs and all the people in between. President Trump has movie roles, books, television shows, real estate development, business development, talked to people from blue collar on up.
Schwarzenegger wanted to be president. He ran his businesses like a conservative, and then he governed like a Kennedy- Rose Kennedy used him as a puppet, more or less. I really am wondering if he was Maria's boytoy. She fired him right after he quit being governor. You see more of her looking glamorous in media, while he looks like a shabby old weirdo.
For that matter, I wonder if President Camacho will actually be named President Pratt. He's Christian, and yet he's faithless to his first wife. He's the husband of a Kennedy. He's Christian, but he's about to be a multi-sexual StarLord (Lucifer, anyone?) in the most popular movies series in decades. He was big on television in a show about good governance.
@105 "The segment with the different camera angle is exactly 17 seconds long.
No, it is not "exactly" seventeen seconds long. It is 17 seconds, 183 milliseconds long. If you have not clipped the video personally in editing tools capable of individual frame-selection, then you're either hack/guessing, or relaying claims made elsewhere without putting effort into verification."
But if you're a NORMAL person, and not an A/V specialist: it's "exactly" 17 seconds long!
Don't let the perfect -- or the 'exact down to the millisecond' only available to the few people who HAVE your editing tools AND use them in this instance -- get in the way of a perfectly serviceable signal!
Inaugerations have happened in March before now...
Boaty Bear wrote:Inaugerations have happened in March before now...
Trump tweeted out that he isn't going to be "attending the Inauguration on the 20th" because there probably isn't going to be one. Theory on the boards is that he's handing over the country to a military panel empowered to sort the election fraud out and handle mass arrests/executions of traitors. Without an inauguration there is no president, which means that Trump's hands are clean, it's not a coup. At this point that makes a lot of sense. It also gets around the problem of Pelosi & McConnell impeaching him, assuming that he's already got it all set in motion.
Should we get our professional cinematographer to check out President Trump's other YouTube videos? There seem to be at least three that are in approximately the same location and shot in the same resolution. They even seem to periodically cut to-and-from the same upper left angle.
They've done quite well to mimic the other available videos, if it's a fake. I even wonder now if a great many of his YouTube videos have been faked, having gone back and watched a handful of them.
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