The GOPe Plan
The GOP establishment is reportedly plotting with Nancy Pelosi to steal defeat from the jaws of victory on January 6th:
Vice President Mike Pence, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell have reached an informal backroom deal to expedite the January 6 challenge in the Electoral College and end it with a simple majority vote after a two hour debate, multiple Capitol Hill sources have confirmed to National File.
This comes after National File reported that McCarthy originally planned to work with Pelosi to change the January 6 rules so the challenge would not be allowed. McCarthy denied this, and our Capitol Hill sources now say that McCarthy instead pursued a backroom deal with Congressional leadership.
Our sources explain that McCarthy was motivated to form this loose plan due to fears that Rep. Liz Cheney will lead a revolt against McCarthy from the liberal wing of the Republican Party.
The informal agreement is to cap the debate at two hours, then have Congressional leadership gavel over any objections and pursue a scripted simple majority vote to confirm the electoral votes, National File’s sources explain.
One source noted that this will likely conjure images of the 2012 Republican convention, when former RNC Chair John Boehner ignored loud objections from former Texas Rep. Dr. Ron Paul’s delegates, and read from an already prepared script on a teleprompter instead.
I admire President Trump's determination to give everyone the chance to do the right thing before lowering the boom. But at this point, I'd just as soon he declared himself God-Emperor for life and had every GOPe Senator and Member of Congress burned at the stake live on CSPAN.
Which, of course, may be the reason he is permitting all of these desperate machinations and shenigans prior to taking action.
UPDATE: Or perhaps the plan is to bench Pence:
Iowa Sen. Charles E. Grassley, the Senate president pro tempore, says he and not Vice President Mike Pence will preside over the certification of Electoral College votes, since "we don't expect him to be there."
UPDATE: Whoopsy, someone let the cat out of the bag.
A Grassley spokesman clarifies that the senator does not "have any indication Pence won't be present." Grassley, he said, was just trying to explain that at president pro tempore of the Senate, he would fill the chair if Pence does not show or steps out at points for a break... Grassley's office clarifies that he was meaning to explain what would happen if Pence had to step away during Wednesday's proceedings to count Electoral College votes. "Every indication we have is that the vice president will be there," Grassley's office said.
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Crunchy Cachalot
January 05, 2021 9:03 PM
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Just So
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 229 of 229So, don't lose heart - A POTUS Heels-Up Harris might usher in those Communistic reforms / mass starvation needed to fix much that is wrong with the USA. And, just in time for the 2032 election of a Nationalist.
Please re-read this paragraph and recognize why it's ludicrous.
Thank you for being sane. Anyone hanging on to the idea of "elections" is suicidal at best.
And the cops in the Jacob Blake case aren't being charged, so some nice riot fuel being supplied just before the 6th. Almost like it's a plan or something.
kurt9 wrote:Realistically speaking, what legal options does Trump have if tomorrow goes bad for him?
You will, I'm sure, have heard the chatter about Executive Orders and the Insurrection Act. Neither of which, however, will allow Trump to remain in office after 20 January in the face of a hostile vote count or, as the case may be, contingent election.
The attitude of the Courts seems to be that the decision of the political bodies, that is, of State electors and ultimately Congress, is final; and that if the American people have been so trusting and inattentive as to fail to prevent election rigging on a grand scale, so much the worse for them.
If Trump loses tomorrow, the options still on the table, other than admitting defeat, are the revolutionary ones.
Snidely Whiplash wrote:Monkeying around with the moderator? I thought you were smarter than that, Kennymac
Guess he showed you.
Avalanche wrote:I was thinking today of writing the GA Secty of State, pointing out that HE will go down in the annals of history as a traitor to his nation and his country -- and his CHILDREN will live forever being identified as the children of a traitor; and THEIR children will be known as the grandchildren of a traitor.... And maybe he should just confess to his treason and help clean up the mess he has made!
It's not just him and his perfidy... it's his lineage!
Like his kind care. He'd sell his kids to people who make Epstein look like a prude for more political power, like pretty much any other politician. Appealing to them on the basis of what their actions would do to their kids? Yeah, save the stamp.
Breaking claim that Obama and former Italian PM colluded to hack the election from Rome. And that Obama stole $400MM from the Iranian cash drop. https://mobile.twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ/status/1346659030173773824
@195 Same as before; Insurrection Act, martial law, military tribunals, a heck of a lot of treason trials, vast reamloads of evidence dumped on the net, and so on.
"...but we don't want the Irish!"
-Blazing Saddles
I think Trump trusts Pence, in fact Trump released this statement today about the fake news some of you may have heard or read.
“The New York Times report regarding comments Vice President Pence supposedly made to me today is fake news. He never said that. The Vice President and I are in total agreement that the Vice President has the power to act."
I wonder if the idea is to have Pence remove certain key groups of electors, while Grassley presides over the vote.
That way it looks less like Pence solo co-opting the days events, and more the actions of a group of people?
It would prevent the media from claiming this was merely Trump and Pence stealing the election (they do always project. remember).
The insurrection act...then its up to Miller / Watnick and special forces.
A lot of you didn't watch the Ivan Raiklin video with Dr. Corsi apparently. You should have.
Nice little message from Bannon at 1:55:00 - 1:55:15:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ4Qkd-bWeY
Welp.. looks like these idiots paid the price for their back-stabbing.
The way out now is through.
Well locked and loaded, but I wish it had never come to this. Reminded of that passage that Gandalf spoke (paraphrased) "None wishes to live to see times like these - all that's left to us to the decide what to do with the time that is granted to us us."
I was thinking today of writing the GA Secty of State, pointing out that HE will go down in the annals of history as a traitor to his nation and his country -- and his CHILDREN will live forever being identified as the children of a traitor; and THEIR children will be known as the grandchildren of a traitor.... And maybe he should just confess to his treason and help clean up the mess he has made!
Be sure the letter is sternly worded. This is no time to be soft on them.
@kurt9:
Realistically speaking, what legal options does Trump have if tomorrow goes bad for him?
Realistically, when injured by illegality, are you only limited to legal options? Or is turnabout fair play?
Further, the American Revolution was literally illegal. And it was not only morally allowed, but ethically required.
Your question is irrelevant.
And there's no universe where we have the press and demographics we have currently that all hell doesn't break lose if Biden doesn't become president. Or more specifically, Trump leaving office. You really think all these coddled goons and idiots will just shrug and go ok it's cool the press told us we won for 3 months and now it tells us evil man won't leave. It's war or war with the only thing making it not war is the usual RINOS rolling over. This country is a failed experiment. We need a king.
"If your view of politics is "Schoolhouse Rock", you need to go somewhere else."
Schoolhouse rock actually has a better view than his, don't insult it too much.
"just in time for the 2032 election of a Nationalist."
That's retarded. No one outside the DS is getting "elected" ever again in this country if this goes through.
@Crunchy Cachelot:
Please re-read this paragraph and recognize why it's ludicrous.
"Don't worry -- after twelve years of communism, we'll be starving so much that we'll totally vote our way out of it!"
I cannot find a single thing wrong with that. There is far more than just one.
No, separate but equal branches. If the other two have not upheld the Constitution then acting is not revolutionary. That's only if all three fail.
@Colonel Blimp:
You really think all these coddled goons and idiots will just shrug and go ok it's cool the press told us we won for 3 months and now it tells us evil man won't leave.
No, I expect that they will continue their fierce psyop with random mild kinetic elements.
It's war or war with the only thing making it not war is the usual RINOS rolling over.
No, it's real war if the usual RINOS roll over, or fake war if they don't. You literally have it backward.
This country is a failed experiment. We need a king.
No, we just need a divorce. Specifically, we need to kick out California and New York.
You have an amazing talent for being wrong.
According to Neon, based on the testimony of a whistleblower, Pence has been working with Rosenstein the whole time and intends to stab Trump in the back. Make of it what you will.
https://www.neonrevolt.com/2021/01/06/at-the-highest-levels-part-3-of-3/
Perhaps a bit OT, but Neon Revolt has some interesting stuff on his site:https://www.neonrevolt.com/2021/01/06/at-the-highest-levels-part-1-of-3/
"We need a king."
No, we don't. It's a suboptimal form of governance, even with a people sociologically and demographically suited to it, which we are not.
SciVo wrote:@kurt9:
Realistically speaking, what legal options does Trump have if tomorrow goes bad for him?
Realistically, when injured by illegality, are you only limited to legal options? Or is turnabout fair play?
Further, the American Revolution was literally illegal. And it was not only morally allowed, but ethically required.
Your question is irrelevant.
Guys, I understand your sentiments. I even agree with them. What I'm asking is what options short of "revolutionary" ones are there still on the table? If there are not, then there are not and the chips will fall as they may.
kurt9 wrote:Guys, I understand your sentiments. I even agree with them. What I'm asking is what options short of "revolutionary" ones are there still on the table? If there are not, then there are not and the chips will fall as they may.
Oh yeah, sorry for misinterpreting. If the courts and congress both run away from the question -- which appears to be the case -- then there are no legal options. The system is designed so that no one branch can legally act unilaterally.
But the Executive and Judiciary do that all the time (because the Legislature is a weak bitch), so it would not really be unusual at all if Trump just declared that we're a monarchy now, and we'll have one all-paper ballot for the first king, and then we don't have a voice anymore.
That's basically what Roe v. Wade and Obama's DACA executive order said. So the other side can complain like a little bitch, but we'd just be following their own Calvinball rules, except declaring ourselves Calvin.
"What I'm asking is what options short of "revolutionary" ones are there still on the table?"
We literally have to cleanse two of the three seats of government. If it's not done before the 20th, we need to cleanse three. There are no other options left.
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