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Saturday, February 20, 2021

And how is that a bad thing, exactly?

U.S. States are beginning to follow the lead of foreign governments like Australia in breaking the power of Big Tech:

Last month, a lobbyist approached Kyle Davison, a North Dakota state senator, with an unusual proposal: a law to stop Apple and Google from forcing companies in the state to hand over a share of their app sales.

Mr. Davison, a Republican, was focused on bills related to a $200,000 literacy program and birth records for the homeless. But he was intrigued by the lobbyist’s arguments that the tech giants were hurting small businesses, and he thought such a law could attract tech companies to North Dakota. So he introduced it.

“She said to me that this could be big. But to me, that means the local newspaper is going to come with a camera,” Mr. Davison, 60, said. “I would not be truthful if I said I expected the reaction.”

At the Capitol in Bismarck, a 21-story Art Deco tower that’s the state’s tallest building, a hearing on the bill last week drew Washington lawyers, North Dakota newspapers and Silicon Valley executives. Siding with Apple and Google was Americans for Prosperity, the conservative group funded by the Koch family. On the other side was the Fargo Chamber of Commerce. One person called in from Alaska.

Supporters of the bill said it would help smaller companies and only hurt Apple and Google’s revenues. Apple’s chief privacy engineer, Erik Neuenschwander, testified that the bill “threatens to destroy iPhone as you know it.”

Siding with Apple and Google was the conservative group funded by the Koch family. And you wonder why conservatives always lose? They literally side with their enemies. 

And destroying iPhone as we know it is a feature, not a bug.

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67 Comments:

Blogger Yukichi Sensei February 20, 2021 11:10 AM  

I pray for these folks. Efficiency is not a first principle. Love your nations folks first, even if it costs you a little more.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 20, 2021 11:19 AM  

Florida governor DeSantis wants to show the way but that malignant tumor between Jupiter and Key Largo has a lot of money.

Blogger Lauri Stark February 20, 2021 11:21 AM  

Siding with Apple and Google was Americans for Prosperity, the conservative group funded by the Koch family.

Man, I hate those guys so much. CONservatives indeed.

Blogger SonyAD February 20, 2021 11:31 AM  

From my experience working in tech support, Apple is what all technically clueless, midwits, dimwits and nitwits slavishly use exclusively. And are often too dumb to even use. That company and its practices are insufferable. They love to take control and transparency away from the final user and make things as unintuitive, counterintuitive and cumbersome as possible for anyone with any technical knowledge and computer skills. It's hard to discern whether idiots use apple products because they're too dumb to use anything else or whether you become an idiot (or exacerbate your idiocy) by using apple products for extended durations. Or both.

And the overwhelming majority of woke morons only use Apple as well. I hate Apple with a passion for their unfair and anti-consumer business practices, their overpriced and under performing and unreliable products and their staunch support of technical illiteracy and idiocy.

Anything that hurts Apple, I approve of. Anytime Apple hurts, I rejoice.

Blogger Nikolai Collushnikov February 20, 2021 11:31 AM  

I can explain it simply using well placed punctuation.
(((Americans for Prosperity))), the (((conservative group))) funded by the (((Koch family))).

Blogger Teleport me off this rock February 20, 2021 11:35 AM  

Americans for Prosperity, the conservative group funded by the Koch family

They were going to call it "We'll Do Anything For Just One More Dollar!", but that name was too on the nose.

Blogger "William Berke" February 20, 2021 11:37 AM  

If you eliminate their ability to spy on your work jews may have to do their own vork.

Blogger Brett baker February 20, 2021 11:39 AM  

Libertardians, akshually.

Blogger kurt9 February 20, 2021 11:40 AM  

If Apple is truly a hardware company such as Jobs and Cook have claimed it to be, then not being able to collect revenues from people selling apps on their store should not doom the iPhone. Same for Google with their Android OS. They should be making enough money from OS royalties from the OEMs putting Android in their phones and tablets. Apple and Amazon want to double dip.

Blogger MarkyMark February 20, 2021 11:47 AM  

VD, the Koch org is NOT conservative! They're about as conservative as the Bushes or George Soros. Truth be told, Charles Koch, the remaining brother, has more in common with George Soros than he does with anyone to the right of Chairman Mao. He's a fake, phony fraud! He's a pretender. Those who know what's going on know that the Koch brothers were many things, but conservative and/or libertarian were not among them.

Blogger Lee February 20, 2021 11:50 AM  

The Koch brothers are conservative the same way the Lincoln Project and Bulwark boys are.

Blogger Doom February 20, 2021 11:52 AM  

They can probably destroy one state. But if a dozen or score or more states smell dollars? Much as they are attacking Australia, there will be blowback. Though, I'd bet money that other nations, as well, will begin digging in. It just doesn't matter when states and nations, and their people, are starving, cold, poor. Blood in the water.

Blogger R Devere February 20, 2021 11:56 AM  

The KOCHs are NOT conservative! They are Crony Capitalists who support both sides with wads of cash, to get the best governmental deal for their businesses, irrespective of who wins any rigged "elections"!

Blogger Attila is my bro February 20, 2021 11:56 AM  

Smash Koch-tural Marxism!

Blogger Prof. Spudd February 20, 2021 11:59 AM  

Gov. DeSantis of Florida firing another shot at Big Brother.

Blogger Canada78Bear February 20, 2021 12:00 PM  

I understand that they think they can get something from big tech with this but nobody can win when making a deal with Evil™.
Google is being eaten by SJWs they made a deal with and conservatives keep trying this type of nonsense with those attacking them.

Takes a degree of madness to ask the person beating you to help you kick someone else (at that same moment).

All the years of Hollywood propaganda of "needing balance" perhaps.

Blogger RedJack February 20, 2021 12:23 PM  

Koch is not conservative, they are libertarian.

Having worked for a Koch company, they are refreshingly honest about their goals. Still wrong, but at least they don't pretend

Blogger Black Bird February 20, 2021 12:25 PM  

The Koch family are the wealthiest family in the world.
They are conservative globalist. That’s what they want you to think. Just a different shade of red. Just think they
Hold themselves as American capitalist. They hate Trump with a passion They hate small business unless they own it. If they are involved look out.

Blogger lowercaseb February 20, 2021 12:31 PM  

“threatens to destroy iPhone as you know it.”

No, they're just "Disrupting the Industry"


Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 20, 2021 12:52 PM  

The Kochs aren't even Conservative, let alone Right. They are Big Money Libertarians, aka Communists in drag.

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa February 20, 2021 12:52 PM  

American employees of AoP were willing to say off the record that the Koch Brothers are very generous employers and that they only want what is best for American employees like themselves. They are against the proposed legislation.

A co-sponsor *for* the legislation, the GWAaCPS, said it would help small businesses (that China could steamroll later) and stop the unfair business practices of Google and Apple (that China will replace later). A message was left, but the spokesperson for the Greater West-Asia & american Co-Prosperity Sphere was unavailable for comment.

Blogger The Other Donald February 20, 2021 1:11 PM  

The Koch's aren't capitalists, but corporatists; international corporatists.
Corporatism is fascism, and fascism is socialism. Trotskyites with money.

Blogger Ransom Smith February 20, 2021 1:12 PM  

The Kochs definitely are conservatives.
Which makes more sense when you realize conservatism is a scam.

Blogger jarheadljh February 20, 2021 1:14 PM  

Purism Librem 5 Linux smartphone. Can plug into a monitor via usb-C, connect to bluetooth mouse&keyboard, and function as a desktop running normal Linux apps like LibreOffice or Inkscape or Brave or whatever. And you can make phone calls and text on the same cell networks that you're already paying for a plan on. User serviceable battery.

https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

Blogger Maniac February 20, 2021 1:14 PM  

@17 - What kind of work, if you don't mind me asking?

Blogger GeronL February 20, 2021 1:16 PM  

Too many "conservative groups" siding against conservatism reminds me of the Asian-American organizations supporting leftists limiting Asians in colleges in California. Both putting political ideology before common sense.

Blogger GeronL February 20, 2021 1:19 PM  

I use a generic Samsung from Walmart, it's great. $80 and I use a pre-paid service. Why would I ever pay more?

Blogger liberranter February 20, 2021 1:23 PM  

“threatens to destroy iPhone as you know it.”

Promise?

Blogger Random February 20, 2021 1:32 PM  

The article's author included the obligatory "make the legislators look unqualified to make this kind of law anyways" section:

"Mr. Klein, 69, a retired grocery-store owner from tiny Fessenden, said some of his colleagues were also wary of passing a bill focused on “digital application distribution platforms” and “in-application payment systems” when they struggled to understand the effects.

“All people here know is that they’ve got their phone plugged in, it has power, they can take pictures and show photos of their grandkids,” he said. “This goes beyond some of us.”

Yet some app makers have a lot riding on the legislation."

Blogger M.S. February 20, 2021 1:50 PM  

I permanently deleted my Facebook a couple weeks ago. Shame on Facebook? Shame on me for not doing it sooner. I don't miss it at all, and it's amazing how much life opens up to you, and seems more magical, once you shut that awful door.

Blogger [Redacted] February 20, 2021 2:17 PM  

@jarheadljh
Thank you. Word of mouth is often the only times privacy oriented devices get attention.

Blogger phil g February 20, 2021 2:47 PM  

The Koch Brothers are only interested in commerce not any larger Christian nationalist issues. They only appear conservative where there's some economic policy overlap.

Blogger eclecticme February 20, 2021 3:12 PM  


The usual strategy of the big corps is to get a fed law passed that preempts state law then focus their cash on DC. '

ND has a state bank also. It was created to interfere with MN based Cargill destroying farmers long ago. It should make people think about any knee jerk free market anti govt beliefs. Then again don't assume that this would work in Detroit or California. When I checked the states with the highest percent of vaccines used they were very much not diverse. WV, SD, ND, etc. Now NM is high but some data is suspect. When Seattle found that a vaccine freezer
went bad and 1600 doses would go bad in a hurry they got people out of bed and got all the doses used from 11 PM to 230 AM. Seattle is liberal but still very not diverse.
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/states-ranked-by-percentage-of-covid-19-vaccines-administered.html.


Louis Rossmann touted his moto 5g android phone. I wish I had known about this when my samsung phone died. It is cheap and it works.
https://youtu.be/CkEV4sZQFzk

Blogger Didas Kalos February 20, 2021 3:18 PM  

!!!Yes!!!

Blogger JonM February 20, 2021 3:20 PM  

One little law in one little state can destroy the iPhone? Let's assume for the moment that that's not simply hyperbole. These tech companies are really vulnerable and this is a naked admission of exactly how vulnerable. Very interesting.

Blogger Otto February 20, 2021 3:26 PM  

The problem isn't that Apple takes a cut of apps. The problem is Apple doesn't allow alternatives to its official app store.

If iPhone users had a choice of multiple app stores from which to download apps, the competition between them would take care of Apple gouging apps downloaded from its app store.

Blogger Cwyn February 20, 2021 3:26 PM  

Fact is sellout companies like Apple signed their own monopoly death warrant via globalization and China. Windows isn't far behind. I'm eagerly awaiting someone to make an OS and system software that can't be co-opted and lorded over by some rich satanist, as happened to Firefox and other Linux software.

Blogger Pseudotsuga February 20, 2021 3:36 PM  

You mean...Federalism isn't just a word?! Say it ain't so, Mr. Jefferson...err, Hamilton...err...Franklin?

Blogger Marc February 20, 2021 3:43 PM  

$800 or $2,000 ... the phone for the common man

Blogger wahr01 February 20, 2021 3:51 PM  

The European Parliament is going one better.

It's currently pushing through a law forcing companies like google and apple to provide open access to their app stores and to allow side-loading of apps bypassing app stores

I predict a LOT of tech companies inverting to the EU over this.

As a side note, many EU nations are now turning on wokeism as "hate speech" and any tech company that inverts there but keeps operational branches in the USA will not have "critical race theory" as diversity training.

Blogger Mr Smith February 20, 2021 4:31 PM  

Way past time to kick the capitalist Koch-suckers out of the Republican Party.

Blogger Jonesey February 20, 2021 4:48 PM  

Have an LG that's 4 years old. Metro deal $50

Blogger jarheadljh February 20, 2021 5:12 PM  

Marc wrote:$800 or $2,000 ... the phone for the common man

I don't remember anyone ever saying that freedom was cheap. You want to be free from Apple and Google and still have the communication experience they provide, you're going to pay Apple prices for it. Of course with the Librem 5 phone you also get hardware kill switches that physically interrupt the electrical circuit to devices like the camera, microphone, bluetooth antenna, etc. In not too much more time there will also be a compatibility layer for Android apps similar to WINE which I'm expecting to be functionally hit or miss just like WINE, but better than nothing.

All Korean electronics call home. Don't care what it is, phone, TV, whatever, it spies on you for LG or Samsung. All Android devices call home on you for Google. Apple is now doing the exact same thing, as Microsoft has been doing the entire time with Windows. It's still possible to find a Linux distro or BSD version that doesn't spy on you (despite ongoing convergence attempts)- avoid Fedora(because IBM) or anything based on Ubuntu.

Getting rid of big tech doesn't just mean dumping Facebook. It means migrating over to entirely new hardware and software ecosystems. It means no more Star Wars or anything Disney. It means dropping anything corporate. It means stopping doing business with those that openly hate you. It's a total package.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei February 20, 2021 5:51 PM  

This.

Learn more. Save up. Spend on long term purchases. Annualize costs and its not so bad.

Blogger the other boomer February 20, 2021 6:37 PM  

jarheadljh: It's still possible to find a Linux distro or BSD version that doesn't spy on you (despite ongoing convergence attempts)- avoid Fedora(because IBM) or anything based on Ubuntu.

Any recommendation? I've been using Fedora practically forever, have red hat 4.2 CDs I probably got 25 years ago.

Blogger Charlie February 20, 2021 8:07 PM  

#43 @jarheadljh

Some of us are working on that 'whole package'. Consistently, slowly but surely.

Blogger Jim February 20, 2021 8:08 PM  

All I know is Microsoft got reamed for doing far less.

Blogger Blaidd February 20, 2021 9:02 PM  

How are there people on VP that still don't know what conservatism is, when VD literally wrote the book on it? Koch is absolutely a conservative. They are exemplars of the way conservatives behave. If you disagree with the Kochs and their ilk, it's you that isn't a conservative. Trying to rehabilitate the conservative label is a foolish waste of time.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 20, 2021 9:04 PM  

Intriguing that so many people find being on multiple websites to be a chore.
That was the way it used to be.

What will happen eventually is somebody will create a "deck" program that let's you simultaneously read and post to multiple forums and blogs at once. Hashtags would guide it. The use uses one browser or client and treats the 40 blogs and forums like one big website.
And if an SJW writes it and starts being a douche about which sites can be in a client deck, then one will be written by someone who is not an SJW.
I have written software that did similar things but nobody cares about Perl any more.

Blogger JM February 20, 2021 10:16 PM  

Slightly OT: I watched a very entertaining documentary called "Sour Grapes" about fraud in the rare/collectable wine business. One of the Koch brothers features prominently in the documentary--he has an extensive wine collection, and he got snookered into buying some fake historically-significant wine. He's pissed about it.

Watch the movie. It will give you some insight into how a Koch brother lives.

Blogger jarheadljh February 20, 2021 10:45 PM  

the other boomer wrote:jarheadljh: It's still possible to find a Linux distro or BSD version that doesn't spy on you (despite ongoing convergence attempts)- avoid Fedora(because IBM) or anything based on Ubuntu.

Any recommendation? I've been using Fedora practically forever, have red hat 4.2 CDs I probably got 25 years ago.


I love Fedora, too. Have to let it go because IBM is still IBM and it bought Red Hat, plus IBM has been compromised by the CCP badly. No telling what's been slipped into RHEL and Fedora that the community has yet to find.

Near as I can tell, anything Debian base should still be okay. Mint has a Debian release for instance(LMDE4). I haven't seen anything to indicate Arch-based like Manjaro is compromised. Purism's PureOS is also strictly adherent to the Free Software Foundation dictates.

But honestly, I would recommend looking up Chris Titus Tech channel. He is completely distro independent, and has a whole series on how he sets up a Linux box with all of these concerns in mind.

Blogger Isolden February 20, 2021 11:08 PM  

I don't think that Google is any better and might be worse

Blogger Isolden February 20, 2021 11:09 PM  

Who?

Blogger John Rockwell February 20, 2021 11:11 PM  

Fining Social Media for violating First Amendment would be a good step.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 20, 2021 11:13 PM  

Jarheadjh, any experience with the Pinephone? It looks like it's getting close to usable, and way cheaper.

Blogger scimitar February 20, 2021 11:50 PM  

Yes.....there are more important things than the bottom line or Muh GDP.....

Blogger wreckage February 20, 2021 11:51 PM  

If 10% is good enough for God, it's good enough for Apple. There's your slogan.

Blogger weka February 21, 2021 12:15 AM  

No, the phone for the common man is a Nokia 3110 or a pinephone. The purism is more akin to a BlackBerry

Blogger weka February 21, 2021 12:18 AM  

Arch Linux. The install keeps the riffraff out.

Blogger the other boomer February 21, 2021 1:27 AM  

Thanks, jarheadljh and weka! several things to play with. Arch is fun but can eat up time.

I'm also going to look at Qubes-os which runs different VMs to do more or less secure things.

Blogger Dire Badger February 21, 2021 3:41 AM  

Remember, it was an apple and a woman that Satan used to expel Adam from Eden.

The parallels are purely intentional.

Blogger Harambe February 21, 2021 4:06 AM  

I am so ashamed of the years I spent being a libertarian. Imagine not caring whether your neighbor loses his job because you want China to make all the things for cheap.

Blogger Avalanche February 21, 2021 7:20 AM  

@43 "Getting rid of big tech doesn't just mean dumping Facebook. It means migrating over to entirely new hardware and software ecosystems. It means no more Star Wars or anything Disney. It means dropping anything corporate. It means stopping doing business with those that openly hate you. It's a total package."

On the other hand, are we being driven back to: "oh, my phone can't talk to your phone!" and "I can't use a map function because Big Maps won't allow my 'unleashed' phone to enter their dog-park." Divide and conqu... er ... destroy?

How BETTER to destroy any sort of community/communion than making people unable to network together? When my last WIN computer was giving up the ghost, I looked long and hard at moving to Linux. ANYthing to avoid Win10!

Couldn't do it. I'm pretty techie for a Boomer, but running a MFG co, and doing my own accounting, purchasing, sales, invoices, taxes, and everything else involved in running a co. WHILE trying to learn Linux AND find versions of programs I rely on that would run under Linux without massive workarounds? Nope. Couldn't do it. Couldn't find anyone to HIRE to do it! Paid a couple different consultants to figure out how to do it: they couldn't!

Wailing and gnashing teeth, I moved to Win10 -- doing as many things as I could find to TRY to keep the new computer from "calling home." My higher priority HAS to be keeping the MFG co. running; no option to that.

Linux/Unix is the example of how 'migrating to new hardware and software ecosystems' is still -- after how many decades? -- not ready for prime time! SO many distros, and you really REALLY need a Linux expert to get you up and running, and then to KEEP you up and running. Why does anyone think this would/will not ALSO be the destruction from 'let's all get different phones!"?

And I am smarter, and more techie than literally MILLIONS of Americans. Tell them they have to DL a distro for their new phone and work some magic to get their SIM card to MAYBE be able to call everyone... they will go running and screaming back to the "walled garden."

Or do you want the FEDGOV to do it?! (commits mock hara-kiri...)

Blogger Shimshon February 21, 2021 7:22 AM  

If you're technically inclined, as others have mentioned, Arch is a good choice for a desktop OS.

I don't know much about KaiOS, but I have a device. It's based on a proprietary fork of Firefox OS. There is a small community focused on these devices. Jailbreaks, even a custom OS stripped of all the phone-home "features". Long term, they have potential, if more people get involved. It will never run Android programs, but they are interesting.

The problem with phones in general is that no matter how open the application part of the phone is, all radio portions, without exception, are totally closed and proprietary. Even Purism phones. They are fully capable of receiving and acting on SMS messages that might never even get passed to the application layer.

Blogger Avalanche February 21, 2021 7:41 AM  

@51 "Near as I can tell, anything Debian base should still be okay. Mint has a Debian release for instance(LMDE4). I haven't seen anything to indicate Arch-based like Manjaro is compromised. Purism's PureOS is also strictly adherent to the Free Software Foundation dictates."

Okay-see? This is exactly what I meant above: NORMAL people can't deal with that. That is NOT in English, and I don't have time (or interest) to parse it. AND there is no good solid consultant who specializes in small businesses trying to get free of Big Tech while still keeping the business running: I tried to find one!

I don't have time to figure Linux out OR to learn how to use a whole new accounting program and CMS and communication program and and and... I have to run $6,700 worth of metal parts over to the anodizer, so I can get them back in a couple weeks to begin assembling the 300+ microscopes my co. relies on and then I have to assemble the gauges they go in; and today I have to test and document the gauge and sample coating a customer sent in because he is having a problem with it/fighting the supplier.

But you think somehow my biz peers and I have time to figure out Mint from Manjaro and/or its Arch-based sibs, one or more of which might or might not do? And find a replacement accounting program that handles inventory natively, because the one I use doesn't offer a Linux version?

Linux is 100% NOT ready for small-biz prime time... or maybe even bleeding-edge small biz, to swap metaphors. Maybe it SHOULD be, but Linux guys and groups of Linux guys have a better idea, a better way, a new/different/better front end, etc. etc. And once Andreesen got converged/knuckled under? {shrug} No time, can't deal!

One of my subcontractor machinists had to isolate a computer from the web/net and leave it on Win7, because his $85,000 (used) CAD/CAM machine cannot talk to Win10 to send directions to the machine. There is no Linux version and likely never WILL be. And damned few if any machine shops can afford to replace a $100k machine because the Linux hobbyists have written something "newer and better now with privacy!" Better does NOT count if it kills your machine!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 21, 2021 11:30 AM  

Avalanche wrote:Linux is 100% NOT ready for small-biz prime time...
Unfortunately, neither is the Microsoft stuff. You've already learned the workarounds for Windows, you're used to its failings, you're invested in it, so you don't really notice the same old problems biting you over and over. Linux has a different set of problems that you haven't become accustomed to yet.
Avalanche wrote:Maybe it SHOULD be, but Linux guys and groups of Linux guys have a better idea, a better way, a new/different/better front end, etc. etc.
This is a totally legitimate statement. It's the downside to 100% volunteer development: we get whatever the volunteers are enthusiastic about. It's hard to stay enthusiastic about maintaining the same old same old, so the old familiar stuff gets deprecated.

Accountants aren't generally software developers, but we do have a double-entry book keeping program. When I played with Gnucash, I quickly decided that double entry was the last thing I needed to track my checkbook. It runs on Windows, as do many Linux programs, so you can migrate one function at a time.

It's a pretty safe bet will never get GPL tax software.

Blogger jarheadljh February 21, 2021 1:39 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Jarheadjh, any experience with the Pinephone? It looks like it's getting close to usable, and way cheaper.

I am familiar with it's existence, but I can't tell you much about it. But I've been focused on the Librem 5 because I want those hardware killswitches. I think that I've seen a few reviews on Youtube - I want to say that Gardner The Linux Gamer did one, but I could be wrong. But if it works as a phone, is in your budget, and runs neither Android of iOS go for it. My tax return is buying me a Librem 5 now that they are actually ready for day to day use, because they haven't been for the last year. See, Alavalanche, I'm not asking anyone to do anything that doesn't work yet, lord knows I won't.

Avalanche wrote:@51 "Near as I can tell, anything Debian base should still be okay. Mint has a Debian release for instance(LMDE4). I haven't seen anything to indicate Arch-based like Manjaro is compromised. Purism's PureOS is also strictly adherent to the Free Software Foundation dictates."

Okay-see? This is exactly what I meant above: NORMAL people can't deal with that. That is NOT in English....

I don't have time to figure Linux out OR to learn how to use a whole new accounting program and CMS and communication program and and and...


Have you tried a simple keyword search? "Linux Mint Debian". Follow onscreen instructions. They're written for people like you. Windows refugees. We were all there once. My last Windows version was Win7. That box went offline in 2016. I'll never have a newer one. I'll never answer to Micrsoft again. Never have a CNC operation interrupted because randomly decided my machine needed to be updated with a patch that will break something else because it was only tested in virtual machines and not in actual physical computers because they got rid of that whole department years ago.

I use LinuxCNC on an EBAY Dell for my hobbyist router and Marlin2.0/Repetier/Cura for my 3D printer. Right now it's still possible to compile Marlin using Sublime instead of VS Code, but when they finally close the door on that I will be gone, too. For 3D modeling, I'm running FreeCAD w/CAM and Inkscape. I've heard graphics artists shit all over Inkscape, but for vector work to do 2D carving it's done everything I've ever asked it to.

I'm planning a small line of benchtop CNC machine tools for people like myself that want to cut heat treated steel or titanium - 3D printer, CNC lathe, CNC 3axis mill with 4th/5th as bolt-on. I think that I've hit on an idea for design that nobody is doing yet which will make them really cheap in addition to being completely user serviceable. All of them will be setup for LinuxCNC, or Marlin for the 3D printer as long as they don't force MS software on us. Not showing anything to anyone until I have prototypes for the business proposal. My goal is not to put a widget in every hand, I want to put a tiny factory in every garage. Hoping to have something to show by Christmas.

And Ominous Cowherd, that is a safe bet.

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