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Wednesday, February 24, 2021

Armed and unprepared

 I don't agree at all with this American Greatness article. The recent election demonstrated, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that democracy is dead and there is no political exit. It strikes me as yet another conservative finger-wagging "this is your LAST chance to vote your way to safety". But the voting machines have been compromised, ergo no one's votes matter in the slightest. There is no more Democrat vs Republican, there is only optimate vs populare.

Many traditional Americans are sleepwalking into a conflict they are not mentally prepared to handle. The ideals of blind justice and due process are now, for all intents and purposes, quaint relics, and relying on constitutional rights for protection is dangerously na├»ve. 

Like it or not, we live in a police state, controlled by an increasingly authoritarian regime with near-total electronic surveillance. The national security apparatus views conservatives and free-thinkers as domestic terrorists, and there are now more military deployed in our nation’s capital than in war zones overseas. If America were any other country, it would be considered a non-permissive environment—not a free country.

The pundit class recommends midterm elections and unifying the GOP as remedies, but they ignore the real elephant in the room—representative government is not representing us. While conservative and independent voices are censored and banned from the community square, their elected representatives cower behind their desks and make sweetheart deals with the new regime. 

We are facing a new post-justice, post-truth society. We won’t be able to debate our way out of it, vote our way out of it, or tweet our way out of it. No one is coming to save us. If traditional America wants to be free, it will have to stop living in the past, get up off the couch, and take action.

The good news is that there is nothing particularly difficult about the present situation. The only difference between the two parties described in the article and the two parties of Roman history is that in the USA, the optimates are mostly foreigners. Indeed, it is the situation in which the overwhelming majority of humanity found itself for the greater part of human history. The populares defeated the optimates in Rome, and they will defeat them again in America.

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  1. Politics are a recourse to have conflict without violence.

    The system no longer is suitable to that purpose.

    The wheel keeps on turning.

    "An empire long united must divide, and an empire long divided must unite." - Romance of the Three Kingdoms

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  2. My only hope in the political process now is that it can be used to build some momentum behind populist messages. The populist candidates will never be allowed to win even a primary, but so far in the US they are being allowed on debate stages on the GOP side. So long as that continues to be the case there is some advantage to using the GOPs platforms to spread a message, organize and build support for a real populist movement.

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  3. They write this shite and don't even understand what has happened. "Get off the couch?" Hell, some 80 MILLION people voted for Pres. Trump. Unless and until these people understand what has happened and what was stolen and cry it out from the mountaintops, they shall forever be relegated to the dustbin of history, bowties and all.

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    1. You obviously don't understand that getting off the couch today isn't what you think it means.
      For grown men wanting their nation back, it means picking up a gun and taking your nation back, one bullet at a time. Sending money to the NRA doesn't count.
      Hope you didn't strain yourself getting down to the voting booth, or did you mail in?

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  4. A bit too negative of the situation IMO. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/georgia/articles/2021-02-23/georgia-senators-pass-bill-to-require-id-for-absentee-voting

    also house will push more republican as fraud isnt as pervasive outside cities.

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    1. How that not-so-fraudy outlook work out for you last November?

      Asking for 75M friends.

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  5. He does admit that we won't be able to vote our way out. I read it more as a "I know they are watching, so I won't advocate violent overthrow of the government, but here is an outline of the structures we need to put in place to be prepared to stand at Thermopylae". Maybe that is an overly charitable reading, but my sense of the article was that the writer wouldn't disagree with Vox's comments.

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    1. Few people disagree with Vox. They just have powerful emotional reactions to him.

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  6. What the writer proposed is just more of the same "let's build and fund a centralized organization and force the deep state to listen to us".

    All that will accomplish is to put all our eggs in one basket that will be infiltrated, spied upon and subverted to serve the deep state.

    It seems we are back again to colonial days where British subjects in the colonies had to decide for or against rebellion against the established government of the Crown.

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  7. Here is something we should do...

    Let's do the same thing we have done for the past 100 years, the one that did not even conserve legitimacy of the vote.
    - Cuckservative

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  8. Weird. He identifies the problem nicely in the snippet that Vox quoted. But then, after pointing out that we can't vote our way out of it, he describes a plan for trying to take back power via the political process.

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  9. It's been known for some time that we aren't voting our way out of this.

    So the only question here is "what's the next step in a 4gw/5gw warfare environment?"

    Guerilla/terrorist actions won't be accepted yet, things aren't nearly bad enough.

    A push to become "ungovernable?" A mass movement to refuse to pay taxes (no taxation without representation)? The idea has appeal to our history and would probably find a great deal of popular support: it wouldn't effect that much damage since taxes are nothing more than a leash on the populace right now, they dont need the tax money since they just print more, but it would be a glaring middle finger to their already fraying legitimacy issue, and doesnt require the sedated population to do anything except change their w-4s with their employer.

    Anyone have any useful ideas?

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    1. @Solon

      Re: guerrilla/terrorist actions wont be accepted yet.

      The state will more than likely initiate several of these as false flags in order to crackdown and preclude any such actions by patriots.

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    2. Point of Order:
      More and harder crackdowns never "preclude" guerrilla/terrorist actions.
      They merely radicalize more Norm the Normie types, which makes subsequent actions far more widespread, and expand support for them geometrically.
      The guerrilla formula is always Worse = Better.

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    3. No representation without net taxation. This includes washing machines for tax payments out and taxes in via military contractors especially in California.

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    4. The redditers took down a hedgefund. The Bears bloodied Indiegogo. And Vox is building rightwing institutions.

      Follow those examples. Especially the last one. We really need sympathetic institutions.

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  10. There has to be something to fight for.
    Who wants to fight to save the boomers' retirements? Who wants to fight so the USA remains so "great" that everybody and their brother wants to come running in here and then chain migrate their 40 relatives each? Who wants to fight to keep the abortuaries going? Maintain this Usury system perhaps? Or maybe "Free Speech" so the liars can keep on lying and some hapless generation down the road has to put up with this shit again?

    Surely as there is no war over abortion now, there was no war over slavery either. Did poor southrons want to fight for the rich plantation owners? Did fresh immigrants in the north give a crap about slaves? Does anybody want to fight so some dingbat who with no self control can escape consequences? Or conversely, so the same dingbats can be forced to multiply on our dime?

    Who wants to fight for a system that failed because it was gamed to death?

    These are the questions on my mind.

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    1. I'm all for letting it burn to the ground. This nation has long ago earned that privilege thru ignorance and laziness. Now it's time to pay up.

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  11. Any particularly relevant historical writings you'd recommend regarding optimate vs populare?

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  12. That's the sense I got of it as well jdwalker. Unless he's just bad at writing he explicitly says voting won't work, then proceeds to outline various things that you are allowed to advocate.

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  13. It seems like the silent war is becoming less silent. It would be good for people to understand that they are in a real, tangible war. I wonder what percentage do...

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  14. I think we have to do more than voting. Obviously, we have to vote, but we should also be getting involved in our local Republican parties and pushing the America First agenda, as well as volunteering and working with local officials.

    If more people had been involved, I doubt the 2020 steal could have happened.

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    1. Swiftfoxmark2... You're delusional. No offense. We do have to act,locally, but not in the way you're accustomed to.

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  15. Retreat to the countryside towns, keep out intruders with the threat of “getting lost in the woods”, and ignore Biden’s decree like the senile pronouncements they are. Federal law is meaningless if nobody is going to enforce it.
    Hard secession might not occur but there’s already signs that some states are just going to give federal “law” the finger. Why turn things bloody when we can just emulate Poland’s relationship with the EU?

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  16. "On one hand, you have traditional Americans. They come in every race, creed, and religion."

    Declares Americans ought to organize for their defense, categorizes everyone on earth as an American. Brilliant. I'm sure his literally glowing resume informed the article's angle. This article is a great example of how they target their real concern by speaking all sorts of truths hinging around a complete falsification of that which they hate.

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  17. For us normals, would a request for a "manifesto" populares be in order?

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  18. AM Greatness wouldn't publish articles that risked a DOJ raid. The writer doesn't focus much on LOCAL political control and nullification. He's civnat, of course, but otherwise counsels fighting instead of submitting. And he holds too much faith in legal defense: when the courts and lawyers are corrupt, the only legal defense is offense.

    That said, if you personally aren't working on concrete measures now, you're well behind the game.

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  19. Unless we're going for species extinction there's going to be a political exit. The question is whether that's going to be after warfare or instead of warfare. I believe that the best political exit is the exit that can be started now and will work whether or not there is warfare in between.

    The Sons of Liberty were prepping for a free and independent America for decades before the Revolutionary War broke out. Had we negotiated a velvet divorce instead of that war their work would have been just as valuable.

    Last stop before Thermopyle is BS. It's the wrong way to look at things.

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  20. I don't read that as finger waving cuck talk at all. It is an appeal to action laying out a campaign to create an American Hezbollah while trying not to bring the Eye of Sauron down on the article. I am not claiming there was some unspoken agenda or hidden message on Vox's behalf but I can't help speculate if his pointing to this article isn't a similar effort.

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  21. Indeed, it is the situation in which the overwhelming majority of humanity found itself for the greater part of human history.

    Most of the situations in history that the "religion causes war!" derptards point to are actually cases of foreign invasion followed by violent native reaction.

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  22. America is not a declining Rome. We are more akin to the decaying Soviet Union.

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    1. @David

      America is in an accelerating process of Brazilification.

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  23. Hard secession might not occur but there’s already signs that some states are just going to give federal “law” the finger. Why turn things bloody when we can just emulate Poland’s relationship with the EU?


    There is some hope in this as the left has already legitimized this in some ways, particularly around immigration. It won't stop the Feds from trying to make an example of a red state that sticks their neck out, but even the lazy, sleeping Red Staters will notice the extreme disparate reactions and start asking questions.

    If a block of 10-20 States do the "nice gun laws you got there feds, GET OUT" routine then I think there will be no real reaction by the Feds other than pretending that the laws are being enforced in those States. At this juncture, they can likely get away with cracking down hard on 1 Red State, but if they attempted to do it to 15 they risk a hot war.

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    1. @basementhomebrewer

      It's already been done w marijuana.

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  24. Nothing says centralized like

    Instead, it is built on the structure of a grassroots political movement designed to return control of the country to the citizenry. This is something to be implemented locally, in communities, towns, and cities.

    No where in the article did I see "Vote Harder". I may have missed it but I don't believe the word vote is ever mentioned in the article. It is about building local institutions now.

    If we get to the point of Thermopylae where things are so desperate that a few feel forced to take a stand against the many in a sacrifice to buy time we are going to lose.

    No one is coming to save you, you have no organization to stop what is coming, build local now. That is the message of the article IMO.

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  25. "Max Morton is a . . . former CIA paramilitary operations officer"

    Send a self-addressed stamped envelope to "I'm A Gullible Dumbass, PO BOX 666, Langley, Virginia" and get a free glowstick!

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  26. Bandits are what you call armies without a political organization.

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  27. The “action” leaves much to be desired. They’re moving factories out, third worlders in, and teaching our children to be insane to the point of not being able to tell the difference between boys and girls. Given LtCol Morton doesn’t know what traditional Americans are, he probably doesn’t know the difference between boys and girls either.

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  28. What would be a good book to read on the optimates versus populares situation? Thanks

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  29. Trumpism might turn us back towards a more federal system in the long run.

    Before he took office, the state level was making bulwarks against Obanunism.

    But thanks to the " oh hey our guy is president now! Back to self absorbed indulgence!" mindset, that stopped and even receded. The more illegitimate the federal government looks, the more state power rises. Well probably never get those blue states to reform their election processes, but the senators and Congress they send to Mordor wont matter. On the state level reform is possible in red states. Even Florida, with it's already solid ballot tracking system, may seek to end drop boxes and require absentee ballots be requested each time. See DeSantis "Nine steps".

    Trump wants to see a lot of RINOs primaried. I have seen state level GOP fuckery. All this is going to do is open more eyes. Want to know exactly how people like Romney stay in forever? Oh we will be finding that out. Nobody is going to like it.

    Trump knows this game well. Notably the insurgent government in DC is seeking now criminal charges against Trump. If his plans were not a threat, they would not bother. Back when everybody was allowed on the internet with their ideas was when they didn't think it was a threat.

    Ultimately political and military solutions are not insulated. You can't just keep silent then start shooting someday. It's often said the revolution was won before the first shot was fired.
    Remember, the Killdozer guy went through all the necessary recourse before becoming a folk hero. Had he not, he would have been just another nut with welding tools.

    With so much inevitability of doom, and ultimately physical death no matter what you do, why cower as if to be spared? Possibly the biggest lie of all is when they got people lined up waiting to be shot, each one thinking they just might be spared at the last moment and ripping the nearest guards eyes out would ruin that chance at someone who went through the trouble of putting them there suddenly changing their mind.

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  30. > A bit too negative of the situation IMO.

    What good does voter ID do when Democrat votes are counted hundreds of times, Republican votes are thrown in the shredder, and the voting machines switch Republican votes to Democrat ones?

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  31. @10 Buy hard assets, especially land, learn how to homestead, invest in your tribe, and conduct black or grey market transactions with your local allies.

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  32. Georgia was "flipped" while Trump had a 500,000 vote lead. Then, just to drive home the point that he better not allow a hand recount, they killed the governor's future son-in-law with a bomb, and didn't investigate it. It no longer matters if you are in a "red" state or not. All they have to do is compromise enough people at the top and they win. It used to be that you had to win big enough that they can't cheat their way to a win. That's not the case anymore. They could've given Biden a 50 state sweep in November and we'd be told everything's fine. We've hit peak banana-republic in America. No election anywhere will matter again--ever--unless something dramatic happens. The way you know who is behind Biden is that everything he is doing now is designed to eventually result in maximum bloodshed. God help us.

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  33. > Anyone have any useful ideas?

    Sure. Repeal the Constitution and dissolve the federal government.

    It's less risky than a civil war, which is the only other alternative.

    > It seems like the silent war is becoming less silent. It would be good for people to understand that they are in a real, tangible war. I wonder what percentage do...

    Yep. Patrick Henry said it best. "Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!"

    > If more people had been involved, I doubt the 2020 steal could have happened.

    Then you weren't paying attention. People were involved. Voting laws were broken left, right, and sideways and no one was willing to anything about it.

    > For us normals, would a request for a "manifesto" populares be in order?

    We have one. It's called the Declaration of Independence.

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  34. Weird. He identifies the problem nicely in the snippet that Vox quoted. But then, after pointing out that we can't vote our way out of it, he describes a plan for trying to take back power via the political process.

    That's not insane. The idea of both an "action" and a political faction to a movement isn't new. That's what the Irish did. It was the equivalent of a good cop-bad cop game, the initially unviable political wing becoming a more desirable alternative to the escalating "action." In fact, you can look at today's Leftist as another example. BLM and Atifa exist to empower the Democrat political party.

    Ultimately whether Clausewitz wrote "with" or "by", there's a political element to the process. There has to be somebody for the enemy to surrender to. Republicans have been great at arranging right-wing surrender - time to replace them with a political party more interested in accepting the enemy's surrender.

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  35. The title says it all: The Last Stop Before Thermopylae. You do the prep work then a group has to be willing to die to stop the advancing hoard by drawing a line in the sand, taking a stand, and not giving in while one man still breathes. But taking a stand WITHOUT having something in place pisses away those lives and efforts.

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  36. @xevious2030

    You missed out the relentless anti White indoctrination coming from the corporate world.

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  37. "The populares defeated the optimates in Rome, and they will defeat them again in America."

    It's good to see your optimism. America will not die - it will succeed.

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  38. To paraphrase the well known LOTR Aragorn meme:

    "One does not simply abandon one's post outside the oval office mid shift to get a COVID test"

    https://www.axios.com/missing-marine-white-house-west-wing-8acbe2c9-1dbe-40b5-8594-11651e1aa075.html

    Why I raise this is that it is yet another weird ass anomaly in this Biden presidency to add to all the others, eg the razor fence, the non-salutes, no AF1 ride to the inauguration etc etc etc, things that even on their own simply would not be happening in a normal circumstances, let alone happening all at once. So while the supreme court decisions etc look discouraging, think of the situation from this angle: there is a plausible universe in which these decisions are explicable, ie as being part of the *scare event* (fake Biden presidency?) Q warned us of in advance ("you are watching a movie"). Sure, you can argue that by late February something visible should have happened and you can be blackpilled about that if you want, but consider this: while there is a plausible universe in which this situation can be explained, there is NO plausible universe in which Biden's oval office gets abandoned mid shift by the guarding marine to get a COVID test, or Biden does not travel in AF1 to his inauguration etc etc. So it's a contest between a plausible universe (patriots in control), however seemingly unlikely at times, vs an IMPOSSIBLE universe of Biden being the actual president. And in a choice between only these two possible scenarios, the plausible universe trumps the impossible universe, and becomes TRUE BY DEFAULT.

    Oh, and check out this video of Biden's nose as he adjusts his mask during a speech. Maybe that's why he's referring to himself as 'the mask president' https://conservativeus.com/video-appears-to-show-joe-bidens-distorted-nose-as-he-gives-remarks-at-the-national-institutes-of-health/

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  39. What action is left short of "fixing bayonets". I've asked this on other forums and receive nothing back but "how dare you" and "banned".

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    1. How can they fix bayonets when they don't have one, don't have a clue how to use one, and instead they're looking for their next Easy Button.
      The coup was a success, the Bolsheviks are now in charge and the idiot voters are already planning out the next elections (if there ever is another one will be a surprise) in which they will wipe the Bolshies clean out of office. The fact there was NO OPPOSITION from the NRA/Repubs during the coup totally evades them. I'm at a loss how these low IQ Field Marshall's plan on pulling it off while chasing the dangling carrot.

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  40. Allyn71, that is the message of the article....but it is basically, "Dont fight the System, build a new one."

    Nope. Slay the invaders. Community can come later. Less talk talk, more Breivik.

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  41. The late Mike Vanderboegh left us SipseyStreetIrregulars. Democracy may die but an armed man always gets a vote. It will do us all good to review his old blog.

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  42. John W. Smoke wrote:What action is left short of "fixing bayonets".
    We are certainly nearing the end of the awkward period.

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  43. Why would Jews(who rule the US) ever change their ways when they go unnamed?

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  44. @Daniel So banditry it is, good luck with that. I want to win so I will be building the community it takes to support any martial resistance while the bandits are being hunted down and eliminated.

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  45. The article is right-we do need to organize and build a movement. Locally then regionally and nationally. We are past the point where we will be left alone to tend our own vines and fig trees. Any such movement will be political although not necessarily a politcal party. It will also, of necessity be more than a political movement.

    Short version: Allyn is right.

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  46. > The state will more than likely initiate several of these as false flags in order to crackdown and preclude any such actions by patriots.

    Almost certainly. It won't have the effect they think.

    > What action is left short of "fixing bayonets".

    Probably none, but these matters work on their own schedule. Just be ready when the time comes.

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  47. Well, I'm seeing left-wing reporters asking why the Texas State Governor did not ignore the EPA when it told Texas to freeze. It's kind of bizarre. I didn't think leftists told anyone to defy the EPA about climate change. They are upset that Texans suffered and died as a sacrifice to a weather theory.


    I think that's how empires grow shabby and fall apart. The capital becomes beholden to some otherworldly extreme religious ideology or another, then begins taking punitive actions against other city regions. The regions finally get fed up and go their own way. Italy is better off as Italy, than a vassal of Byzantium.

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  48. Throw a wrench in when and where you can. Be clinically honest in your assessment and don't even think there's any way to recover what was lost, way to late for that. Let it burn, let it get cooking good and hot chaos everywhere. Then jump in without reservation, no restraint no quarter no comprise with evil. Only way I see this ending right.

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  49. It's not over. People need to wake up! If you think President Trump and the military are going to let these people get away with a fraudulent election, you're sorely mistaken. Stop listening to the fake news. Do some research and investigate the entire situation. You'll see that there's much more going on, behind the scenes, than many people realize. We're at war. A different kind of war but, war nonetheless. #SaveTheChildren #CamouflageCares #WWG1WGA #CheatersNeverWin #TruthRevealed #DarkToLight

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    1. So what if Trump is disabled or killed soon, then your Plan A, B, C,.....is out the door. Got anything for a backup plan, like they used to use in the sold out neutered military?
      False hope is not a battle plan.

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  50. There is always Plan R, go to Westminster and beg on bent knee for the Queen to take us back. Sorry about that unpleasantness a few centuries ago, but we were headstrong and thought we knew what we were doing. Wouldn't be any worse than what we are about to get from Uncle Joe Biden-Stalin. https://youtu.be/G9eK9fWUb3s

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    1. Financially, the City of London already owns us, they don't want all our baggage (bad roads and infrastructure, etc) too.

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  51. The federal government is toast. Congress is trying to cast out the few honest members left. I take it as a sign God is getting ready to implement his plan.

    There is much to do. Families to be strengthened . Tribes to be found and organized. Means to feed and clothe and shelter all on the local level. skills to learned and taught. Plans made for local defense. We have work enough to do.

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    1. Trump, God, the tooth fairy... Nobody is coming to save the US. Leftists are using communist tactics and strategies to win like they have in the past around the world. Purges, first political and then murderous are the next logical steps for the left. Most will politely nod and clap at the right times because it's what is expected of them. The news is saying local white male terrorists are a danger in the US. You and your community armed? The makeup of clown world will come off soon enough.

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  52. It seems almost tautological that an optimate that isn't populare must be foreign.

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  53. The men who believe in politicians are the same men who think that strippers genuinely like them.

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  54. Large scale attacks on defensible positions are usually futile (recall Vietnam 1968). Hitting a target on the move is better than when it's in a structure. All those lawyers, judges, and politicians have to leave their offices at some point. A few two man teams in places like Alexandria can do far more good than a mob in D.C.

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  55. JWM in SD wrote:No state of the union address either yet.
    Not a lot of union left to talk about, and their current meat puppet can't talk coherently, anyway.
    Ariadne Umbrella wrote:Well, I'm seeing left-wing reporters asking why the Texas State Governor did not ignore the EPA when it told Texas to freeze.
    Are normie Texans asking that? Are they ready to force their government to act for them, rather than against them? Are they breaking out the torches and pitchforks?
    Tamara Nana Hammer wrote:If you think President Trump and the military are going to let these people get away with a fraudulent election, you're sorely mistaken.
    The military is part of the Deep State, part of the fraud. Trump is a nice old civnat boomer-cuck, who wouldn't do a damn thing to stop the fraud, back when he had the power and opportunity.
    Storm Rhode wrote:... Nobody is coming to save the US.
    Yes.
    Wyomarine wrote:d... the idiot voters are already planning out the next elections (if there ever is another one will be a surprise)
    There will be more elections, but they probably won't bother with the voting part, and it won't matter if they do. Voting got us into this mess, but it won't get us through it.
    The Last Roman wrote:All those lawyers, judges, and politicians have to leave their offices at some point.
    They all have names, and addresses.

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  56. "What action is left short of "fixing bayonets"."

    Applying mercury to aluminum, and dirt over solved problems.

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  57. Kraemer wrote:What would be a good book to read on the optimates versus populares situation? Thanks

    Asked the same further up above. No answer but I assume Vox' 2021 Reading list gives a clue: The Day of the Barbarians, Alessandro Barbero

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  58. Azure Amaranthine wrote:Applying mercury to aluminum,
    Oooh, that's coool. It could be really hard on airframes.

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  59. The hopium has run out. Arguing and debating political solutions when our enemies have already stated their ambition to rob, rape, and murder us into submission is not a strategy, only an option for MORE defeat. When the left accelerates it blood-cudgel of oppression, and the bodies start piling up, then you'll see action.

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    1. The conservative masses are standing around, waiting for Trump to jump from a closet and say "I'm back!".
      They're all waiting for "the plan' to unfold.

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  60. Ominous Cowherd wrote:Azure Amaranthine wrote:Applying mercury to aluminum,
    Oooh, that's coool. It could be really hard on airframes.

    You don't even need that; just mark the aluminum with a pencil.

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  61. Wyomarine wrote:The conservative masses are standing around, waiting for Trump to jump from a closet and say "I'm back!".

    They're all waiting for "the plan' to unfold.

    Yes, some are. Some aren't.

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