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Monday, February 22, 2021

Going the way of the Whigs

Republicans are rapidly realizing that voting for Republicans isn't going to provide them with the sort of government, or the sort of society, they prefer:

According to a new poll, nearly half of Republicans say they will leave the Republican Party to join a third-party created and led by former President Donald Trump. That doesn't bode well for the Republican establishment. 

The new poll by Suffolk University-USA Today found a whopping 46 percent of Republicans are willing to leave the GOP in order to a join new party created by Donald Trump. Just 27 percent of Republicans said they would stick with the GOP, and the rest are undecided. 

"We feel like Republicans don't fight enough for us, and we all see Donald Trump fighting for us as hard as he can, every single day," said Brandon Keidl, a 27-year-old Republican and small-business owner from Milwaukee. "But then you have establishment Republicans who just agree with establishment Democrats and everything, and they don't ever push back."

The question, of course, is if the new America First party will actually put America and Americans first or not. Because there is no doubt that the Establishment will already be moving to subvert it before it even begins to take form.

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125 Comments:

Blogger Lazarus February 22, 2021 8:03 AM  

Parties are irrelevant as long as the electoral system remains unsecured.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 22, 2021 8:10 AM  

Establish litmus test before the establishment defines the litmus.

Blogger The Last Roman February 22, 2021 8:16 AM  

I like the idea of a new, more nationalist, party. My concern, however, is that the massive fraud that took place in 2020 will continue and make the whole process irrelevant.

Blogger JG February 22, 2021 8:16 AM  

This new party will fall to subversion unless is it both Christian and American nationalist.

Blogger Richard Holmes February 22, 2021 8:26 AM  

The question, of course, is if the new America First party will actually put America and Americans first or not. Because there is no doubt that the Establishment will already be moving to subvert it before it even begins to take form. - VD

This statement is so true. Question I got is how do you get rid of these bastards? There has been tons of information that ended up getting people labeled conspiracy theorists and everyone thinks of them as idiot mentally ill racists. People tried voting them out... That obviously failed. Many voices have cried out for civil war and/or revolution. Seems there is a whole lot of people in this country that doesn't have a stomach for war... Especially one as brutal that they would be. I am beginning to suspect there is no solution.

Blogger Sootwagen February 22, 2021 8:28 AM  

If we don't put an end to the election fraud, it won't matter one bit whether or not a new party goes up against the democrats.

Blogger Zaklog the Great February 22, 2021 8:29 AM  

Of the two choices, I prefer Donald Trump. However, I'm sorely disappointed that he appears to buy into the "poor persecuted black people" story and attempts to appease them politically. When is someone going to meaningfully stand up for white Americans?

Blogger Shimshon February 22, 2021 8:30 AM  

If they can fake millions and millions of votes to steal an election, and he wouldn't cross the Rubicon, I am not sure I get the point. They'll just keep stealing along with ensuring no ticket eschewers ever get into office in the numbers needed to make a difference. I mean, it would be more effective if Trump said to take the steadpill and drop out of national politics entirely. That would probably scare them more than something like this. Although the death of the Republican Party and with it the ability of the bifactional ruling coalition to maintain the facade would be worth it even if nothing else were accomplished.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 22, 2021 8:35 AM  

This is where the military tribunals could blow up both parties, even if the Dems take the hardest hit. The GOP is so compromised, 3/4 of them will be join the 95% of the Dems arrested en mass. The few left from each party will be watched like hawks in their new party home. It’ll be fun to watch.

Blogger Brian Peterson February 22, 2021 8:36 AM  

I mean... don’t we just want a party that can competently prove obvious and massive fraud? The 2nd and 3rd world have been doing a better job of that lately.

Blogger Paulito February 22, 2021 8:46 AM  

What good is a new party when corrupted elections go unchallenged?

Blogger Leahn Novash February 22, 2021 8:47 AM  

Unless he ditches Jared and Ivanka, it won't be necessary to even try to subvert it. The fix is already in.

Blogger Beery Swine February 22, 2021 8:50 AM  

I don't think any of that fucking matters unless Trump or the military or some group either has already or will do something to change things. If things are what they seem, then everyone SHOULD realize their vote is completely worthless, yet just about everyone I know thinks things ARE what they seem, yet are still talking about "next election."
Seriously, how the fuck can one be so blind? "Aw, shucks, the people in power stole the election THIS time, but NEXT election we'll make sure those people in power won't steal it!"

Blogger basementhomebrewer February 22, 2021 8:57 AM  

The question, of course, is if the new America First party will actually put America and Americans first or not. Because there is no doubt that the Establishment will already be moving to subvert it before it even begins to take form.

Unfortunately, if Trump is heading it, it likely is already subverted. He might have good intentions but his administration illustrated he has cunning traitors in his inner circle that, for whatever reason, he refuses to ruthlessly purge. He rarely took timely action against traitors in his outer circle either, Fauci and Wray being prime examples.

Trump is great as a figurehead and he is great at organizing people as long as those people already have the same goals as he does in mind. He is poor at recognizing when people on his team do not share his goals. If he starts a party I would like to see him place the day to day tactics and decision making into more ruthless, capable, and nationalist hands. I am not sure if he is going to recognize that person though.

Blogger Anonymous Commenter February 22, 2021 9:06 AM  

Much like parler, is this “poll” and talk of DT starting a new America First party just the establishment trying to get in front of it already? What better way to track subversives and the insufficiently woke than to give them a place to go, complete with registration?

Blogger Karen took the Kids February 22, 2021 9:08 AM  

If the likes of Shapiru and Kirk start throwing their endorsement behind it, that's a sure sign to stay away.

Blogger A M D G February 22, 2021 9:08 AM  

I'm skeptical about a third party because of the winner-take-all structure of our elections. I think it's more efficient and a stronger statement to reclaim the Republican party. There's a whole pile of RINOs getting recalled in Arizona; they have the right idea. We all need to be more involved at every level of politics. If we hadn't fallen asleep at the wheel in the first place, we wouldn't be in this mess...

https://youtu.be/ynVqPnMQ2sI

Blogger Harambe February 22, 2021 9:09 AM  

Wait, so he's actually going ahead with that?

Blogger Dark Herald February 22, 2021 9:12 AM  

I heard an interesting suggestions this weekend.

That Trump should run for a seat in the House of Representatives in 2022 with a view towards taking the gavel as Speaker of the House if he can get a majority.

It would be a good place for him to stay in the public eye and be an absolute menace to the Biden Regime. Until he can run in 2024.

Blogger Fishslinger_Bear February 22, 2021 9:19 AM  

The last election proved that political parties and voting in this country formerly known as the U.S. is irrelevant. Having a third party, fourth, fifth..., even if one is not converged, doesn't matter if the vote results are decided by some globohomo controllers.

Blogger steb February 22, 2021 9:21 AM  

How would this affect plans to primary the R incumbents? Still primary them with an AF candidate, leave them in place, or primary them with a deliberate wrecking candidate?

Blogger Pete February 22, 2021 9:32 AM  

We have had enough blowhards like Trey Gowdy. I have been a life long registered Democrat that has never voted for a Democrat. People have asked why I don't change parties. I tell them that when I die there will be one less Democrat. I think I should register as a Republican now.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer February 22, 2021 9:38 AM  

My favorite comment. Meet obstacle enemy #1..... Hi, Satan. Troy says hello.


DiegoVan Bixter
15 hours ago
Trump is staying with the Republicans. Yes, the establishment is a mess and it will be a big fight, but realignment always happens are major losses.
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Forming a third party is suicidal and means allowing the Dems to control more than they do now.


.... Or to put it another way, "Stay on the plantation, nigger."

Blogger Johnny February 22, 2021 9:40 AM  

I used to vote Republican to vote against the Democrat. Now just about any third party led by whoever could pick up my vote.

Blogger YATYASBear February 22, 2021 9:48 AM  

I seriously have my doubts. He may have put America first in particular aspects, but he definitely didn't protect free speech, or freedom of association and assembly (closed churches, small businesses, etc) he didn't protect 2A either but I suppose that is debatable. And he certainly didn't drain any swamp and a measly 80 miles of wall.

It'll get grabbled like all political parties do, because man is sinful in nature.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 22, 2021 9:54 AM  

A key question is: How many Democrat voters and independent voters will shift sides? If enough people can be awakened from their slumber and can be persuaded that neither of the establishment parties are good for Americans then maybe there will be political change that will avoid a bloody Civil War.

Blogger GeronL February 22, 2021 9:56 AM  

Trump hasn't committed to a new party. Getting on the ballot in some states is nearly impossible for new parties, Texas for instance.

Blogger MichaelJMaier February 22, 2021 9:58 AM  

Still trying to decide what to send back in this here RNC postage-paid envelope.... they sent me a questionnaire to fill out.

Blogger JWM in SD February 22, 2021 10:01 AM  

They will but I don't think it will be as easy as it was with the Tea Party and occupy Wall Street. The level of red pilling since then is pretty significant and the military presence in DC is evidence of it.

Blogger tuberman February 22, 2021 10:04 AM  

The DS already has all sorts of bad actors in place, like Hillsdale College to corrupt anything new, not to mention all the Fake Christian leaders.

Blogger Jack Morrow February 22, 2021 10:07 AM  

That's an appropriate analogy, given that the Republican Party arose after the collapse of the Whigs, who held the presidency at the beginning of the 1850s, but had disappeared by the end of the decade.

Blogger KingKrawFish February 22, 2021 10:08 AM  

How feasible/useful is it to create a 3rd Party at this point?

Blogger GEOTUS4EVAH February 22, 2021 10:14 AM  

If the America First movement is not going to have majority voting power as Republicans (either due to voter fraud or spineless RINOs), we might as well start a new party and build from there. As the Establishment runs the country into the ground, we will attract hearts and minds.

Blogger Cobalt Wolf February 22, 2021 10:17 AM  

"Because there is no doubt that the Establishment will already be moving to subvert it before it even begins to take form."

As they always do. :-/

Blogger English Tom February 22, 2021 10:23 AM  

The reality I'd that most organisations today are pozzed, and people realise, it's not really left v. right but the entire political class against us the people.

Blogger Doom February 22, 2021 10:24 AM  

Good for those republicans who would leave. Many of us have already left... or felt we were left behind with no way to hold the party in line. They prefer to lose than to change. Same with dems, too, if that isn't as drastic to their party.

I can't say I would join a new Trump lead party. He doesn't seem to have what it takes, even when he has what should be the political power. And when the chips are down, he... has other things to do.

As well, who would join him who isn't compromised? Still... I'd... kick the tires, look the thing over, give it some time and room. Probably won't vote again in my life though.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot February 22, 2021 10:34 AM  

Twenty-seven percent of Republicans still stuck in the "You don't know him like I do!" routine.

Blogger Nostromo February 22, 2021 10:35 AM  

I trust the woman from Georgia, the one with the guns on her shelf, Hawley, and DJT. I think Paul can be a reliable ally because he stands for what he believes in... which is fine. I trust none of the rest of the GOP. Cruz came late to the party... he has stayed, but only because he is smarter at reading the tea leaves. Haley, Pence, all the rest can EABODAD.

Blogger Sicilian switchblade February 22, 2021 10:38 AM  

As refreshing as it is to hear Republicans finally realize this fact, I question whether voting at all makes any difference whatsoever at the National or even state level.

Unless people are jailed and removed from office over the fraud we witnessed this past election my confidence in any election is close to zero.

Blogger Cwyn February 22, 2021 10:41 AM  

White Heritage Americans want a Republic of white heritage Americans. Period. There is no room for the jew-cultists and their pagan allies, including the Anti-Christ hoards of Latin America who are okay with stealing and lying for personal gain, or the colonist Asians, who have enough money to come over here but don't stay and fix their nation, or the "refuges" and VISA extenders who are here like most of the satanic tools to mooch. Republicans aren't offering this, so they will go. Whites want the Anglo land they built for their children, not for the satanic failed hoards of moochers who hate them.

If there are any minority Christians, they will have to PROVE they are actually Christian to whites who no longer accept their word as sincere. Years of bashing and badmouth have born witness to their real heart, and it isn't Jesus Christ's.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 22, 2021 10:46 AM  

VD wrote:The question, of course, is if the new America First party will actually put America and Americans first or not.
This is indeed the question, and what's interesting is how world-view changes the perspective. For most Americans the idea of a truly America First party would be somewhat akin to Reagan's "rising tide lifts all boats" as something that is simply good for all the people of the US… the elites, however, will see it as a direct affront on their powers and purposes.

Just as we saw the admission about the election "being fortified" to give the elites the president they wanted, I would be unsurprised to see admissions of massive infiltration and sabotage for a new party. They've done it before, too: the Tea Party's biggest "success" was putting that slimeball, Cubanadian Ted Cruz, into power.

Blogger yohee February 22, 2021 10:49 AM  

A third party most likely would only strengthen the uniparty.
What is needed is the wresting away of control from the Republican Party ruling class.
The Repubs must become what the Dems claim to be, the defender of the working class best interests; this means the moral order must be at the center of policy making.
If the Repubs don't do this, the third party will rise (we may be at that point now), if so, the new party must have morality at its center.
There is no social progress outside of the moral order.

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 February 22, 2021 10:55 AM  

Unless something changes looks more like Trump is going to subvert the GOP. Their is already a vattle in the GOP and the elites are finding the pleebs are backing Trump, not them.

Blogger Brett baker February 22, 2021 10:57 AM  

The Establishment is supporting Pre-Americans. Just the same as current Americans, but betterer!

Blogger machinephilosophy.com February 22, 2021 11:02 AM  

They won't question the collectivism itself, which is the real problem.

The only solution is a comprehensive change in everything we spend money on.

Blogger Sapper February 22, 2021 11:44 AM  

As seen in the past with the Tea Party, Independents, Libertarians, et al, there is the "split vote" that occurs potentially denying a dominant party in the House, Senate, and/or White House. It would be my hope that this new party is using lessons learned to overcome the subversion to follow but given the widespread fraudulent elections, this may not be an issue.

Blogger An Orthodox Christian February 22, 2021 11:50 AM  

For the True Right, use of the pejorative "RINO"is no longer necessary to ID poseurs. Simply spit out "Republican"

Blogger liberranter February 22, 2021 11:52 AM  

Because there is no doubt that the Establishment will already be moving to subvert it before it even begins to take form.

Naturally. There's also the fact that the same people who made up the "base" of the GOP are the same people who will make up the "base" of a new "Freedom" Party. Think of them as millions of Charlie Browns who regularly confront Lucy and her football and yet fall for her trick over and over and over again.

Blogger xyzzyx February 22, 2021 11:56 AM  

I'm sure there will be a headline here today about the SCOTUS decision today.

From what I can see, ALL options have been used. I've tired of watching and reading suppositions of what is going to happen. I want something to happen now.

Where's the military now and are they going to exert their muscle.

Blogger OMGDwayne February 22, 2021 11:58 AM  

How long have I hated the mainstream Republican Party? At least since Nixon when I heard he cucked and made affirmative action official federal policy. White people haven't won a victory in a very, very long time. The last time Whites actually won a significant victory was with the immigration restriction act in the early 1920s.
Of course we had already let in a huge number of malignant Jews who started their march through the institutions under that arch-traitor FDR.
After the two World Wars of White Suicide, we were a civilizational power vacuum into which our (((enemies))) poured in and began to parasitically devour their hosts.
What happens next will not be easy or pretty. Hope I live to see it though.

Blogger Astrosmith February 22, 2021 12:04 PM  

They ought to call it the Freedom United party

Blogger ThomasO February 22, 2021 12:04 PM  

That was easy to predict even for us sub 100 IQ types. I stopped voting Republican until Trump & don't plan on going back. I'm tired of being stabbed in the back by Republicans.

Blogger Based Boomer February 22, 2021 12:14 PM  

Given it's "muh survey," I guess maybe this is intentional by the mainstream press? TGE has already gutted the party and installed enough AF people to scare the establishment. There is no need to rebuild everything.

Blogger ZhukovG February 22, 2021 12:25 PM  

I wonder what percentage of Democrats would switch. That would give the Globalists some serious nightmare fuel.

Ad Victoriam, Deo Vindice, Ave Caesar Trump!

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis February 22, 2021 12:26 PM  

I think 46% does not truly reflect the situation. I truly believe history will favorably show that TGE provided the needed purge of anti-American, Globalist elements in the GOP that was LONG overdue.

Blogger Unknown February 22, 2021 12:31 PM  

It would be great if a true America First party appeared, the old uniparty (aka: Israel and Jewish Collective Power First in Blue and Israel and Jewish Collective Power First in Red) needs to get wrecked.

Blogger CM February 22, 2021 12:42 PM  

Because there is no doubt that the Establishment will already be moving to subvert it before it even begins to take form.

This poll is pavlov’s bell to the grifters and subverters.

How to play wise as serpents? Have we learned?

Blogger Unknown February 22, 2021 12:52 PM  

It's a bit of insanity for anyone who isn't a Uniparty supporter to bother voting at all any more.

Local government is important still, of course.

But just what magical force can dislodge a federal party that controls the outcomes of its own elections by any means necessary?

The only vote left is to form a large enough 'non-voting block' to declare openly that without sufficient system support (total votes), there is no legitimate government.

Cleaning up society will require a lawless and chaotic environment, and mass disengagement is about the only fruitful and just way to bring about such a circumstance.

Blogger JOE February 22, 2021 12:53 PM  

I think the best chance Christian Nationalists have for victory is not to create a third party, mainly because the two party system is protected by law. The best chance is take over the GOP from within and rewrite its DNA from the grassroots up.

It would need to start at the county level and work its way up. Slow march through the institutions in reverse.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 22, 2021 12:53 PM  

One of the biggest problems of fighting globohomo is that our pool of participants draws from the same group as "part of the problem".
The boomercons, for example.
A new party should be handled like a new church: you walk in see a female pastor, you walk out.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 12:56 PM  

JG wrote:This new party will fall to subversion unless is it both Christian and American nationalist.
If Trump heads it, it will fail on the second count.

As others have said, voting is irrelevant now anyway. The only thing that counts is the vote counters, and they don't need your stinkin' votes.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash February 22, 2021 12:58 PM  

How feasible/useful is it to create a 3rd Party at this point?
The point is to kill the GOP.

Blogger MichaelJMaier February 22, 2021 12:59 PM  

The people could even switch to the Democrats to get the WORST candidates to win the primary and it won't matter. The fixes are probably already in for 2024. The Deep State proved they can do anything they want and it doesn't matter. They illegally inserted a senile pedophile who was obviously on the take, along with his entire family. It's like the Clintons, but the public knew of ALL the corruption before Pedo Biden was "elected".

If the people do not destroy the Repukes and render it unable to run beforehand, a third party will only seal our fate. It won't matter what the votes are, the Deep State has the fix right there at hand: "Trump splintered the R votes and the Ds win again. Maybe next time."

Unless something crazy happens, Trump can never win again. No one except the Swamp Creatures will ever be elected again.

This isn't "blackpilling". It's just acknowledging reality. I want to be wrong but I think they're making war inevitable. If forced to guess, I'd say it's to push white Christian nationalists to the brink so they'll ID themselves and be more easily destroyed.

"We have to kill THOSE BITTER CLINGERS for the Greater Good."

Blogger KingKrawFish February 22, 2021 1:01 PM  

When was the last time the republican party Represented A real alternative to the Democrats?

That said, I can’t say that trump’s four years in office gets me excited about a new party Led by him.

Blogger Jack Amok February 22, 2021 1:02 PM  

Given the amount of fraud, if our grandkids are lucky, the next round will be won by a party that's only temporarily nasty. I have a hard time seeing a genteel one amounting to much at this point. That sucks, but that's life in a banana republic or a commie state.

Blogger JWM in SD February 22, 2021 1:03 PM  

Yes, but that effort cannot be half hearted. It damn well better destroy the RNC and supercede it or else we're simply divided against the democrats which is what they want.

Blogger Steve Canyon February 22, 2021 1:04 PM  

It won't do much good when the elections are rigged with corruptible machines in Presidential and Senatorial elections.

On a local level, it's far more important. In terms of capturing house seats and those in state legislatures, it can be vital, and those elections are far more important. The majority of politics is local.

Where it does good is in terms of morale. Sends a message to the establishment. Stabs them in the back like they've been doing to everyone else since Goldwater. And it weakens their grip because they can't depend on reliably red areas for support anymore.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 1:04 PM  

Zaklog the Great wrote:Of the two choices, I prefer Donald Trump. However, I'm sorely disappointed that he appears to buy into the "poor persecuted black people" story and attempts to appease them politically.
Even if Trump were not a civnat, he tries to appeal to the civnat cucks who yearn to be replaced by the glorious POC and to the churchian cuckservatives who worship Israel instead of Jesus. Those two make up a big part of the squishy middle in the FUSA, and too much of the Right.

Blogger VFM #7634 February 22, 2021 1:13 PM  

According to this article, the U.S. now is eerily similar to Spain in 1936, right up to the rampant vote fraud putting Democrats in charge, Antifa/BLM, and repression of our side. I'd further say that Alcalá ­Zamora is Trump, and Azaña is Biden/Harris.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan February 22, 2021 1:16 PM  

Kill ideology first, all that CivNat jabber is just get a person to wander off into the woods and forget to advocate for themselves especially whites versus the Cultural Marxists. If I had my choice the next Glen Beckian evil moron to spout off about principles and virtues needs to go feet first into the wood chipper.

You can shuffle the parties all you want till you kill ideology its all just a jabber session. The smarter Jews just have to be laughing their asses off at the goyimkopf, babbling on about ideology, hell most of those jews switch ideology scams many times in their lives. Ideology is like toilet paper, use it and throw it away don't hold onto it past that.

Blogger [Redacted] February 22, 2021 1:17 PM  

Americans are in the sort of mess you can't shoot or vote your way out of. We have to demographically outlast the chaos, fear, and corruption of the system. In time, when all the evil bastards die, we send our grandkids in to rebuild. The worst part of this is that Americans lack a lexicon or even a cultural reference frame to implement this. It is an old world solution to an old world problem.

Blogger Jeremy V February 22, 2021 1:18 PM  

Maybe Trump & Co (regardless if he’s not at the helm this time around) has put together the intel found from all he’s seen in the dirty ole’ beast’s belly and poking around in the engine room. He’s seen how far they’re willing to go & how a great deal of it was done. Intel & strategy: May he wipe the floor with them and bring about a new TDS the world has yet to see!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 1:39 PM  

xyzzyx wrote:Where's the military now and are they going to exert their muscle.
I suspect they have already done their thing, gotten what they wanted, and are quite content with the status quo.

Blogger Based Boomer February 22, 2021 1:39 PM  

@71
The ready made future is the Latin American model, given the continued immigration from there. Those people will never change and they will import their cultures. Brazil is a good example where the two most southern states are the most European, and almost another country. I have read commenters who disagree and point out "assimilation" of Italians, Irish, Germans etc., but that is obviously civnat optimism.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 1:40 PM  

ThomasO wrote:I stopped voting Republican until Trump & don't plan on going back. I'm tired of being stabbed in the back by Republicans.
The question is whether we should vote at all.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 1:41 PM  

Watchu talkin bout Willis wrote:. I truly believe history will favorably show that TGE provided the needed purge of anti-American, Globalist elements in the GOP that was LONG overdue.
Don't know about your state, but the Alaska GOP still has the same anti-Americans at its helm.

Blogger Randomatos February 22, 2021 1:42 PM  

You might want to take a closer look at the Joint Chiefs of Staff before you start pinning hopes on them.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei February 22, 2021 1:44 PM  

Party winning matters less than organizing. Natural organization seems best, but having a focus of an explicit political party could work. Constantinople organized around chariot race teams or religious dogma, we organize around party and dogma. So its the game.

It would fail if it was not all America loyal folks, brutally policed. Look at Machiavelli, the plebs being organized can bring good vs elites, they did not use votes, but direct actions, or the threat thereof.

Again, he points out that when you use the Plebs in your wars, you can only ignore them at your own peril.

Blogger Pathfinderlight February 22, 2021 1:46 PM  

In an institutional environment of legally authorized overt corruption, like we have now in the US, the point of organizing politically is to force the political elites to fabricate millions of votes per election, over and over. Make it obvious to the world that the US has lost democratic legitimacy, and the "allies" loose legitimacy as well. Sooner or later, the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

It doesn't matter how many people the new party or cleaned up Republican party attracts because we know that like our massive advantage in 2020, our votes will be cancelled out by fraud.

The nature of the electoral college makes organized fraud campaigns less effective, requiring them to be perpetrated in many places. The original American revolution was preceded by a long train of abuses and usurpations. Now is the time to document, protest, and organize, so that when the time comes, we are all on the same page.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 22, 2021 1:51 PM  

Well we certainly need a new court...

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 1:58 PM  

JWM in SD wrote:Yes, but that effort cannot be half hearted. It damn well better destroy the RNC and supercede it or else we're simply divided against the democrats which is what they want.
Better divided against the democrats than voting for their GOP clones - if voting matters at all.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 1:58 PM  

[Redacted] wrote:Americans are in the sort of mess you can't shoot or vote your way out of.
We have proven voting won't work. We haven't even tried the other yet, so it's a little early to say it won't work.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 2:01 PM  

Jeremy V wrote:Intel & strategy: May he wipe the floor with them and bring about a new TDS the world has yet to see!
May he indeed! In the mean time, we should all proceed as if he won't, for in case he doesn't.

Blogger OMGDwayne February 22, 2021 2:05 PM  

I agree with many of you that a new party isn't going to help. Elections are now completely irrelevant. The Jews and their nonWhite foot soldiers are so entrenched that all elections that would matter are now stolen in advance. I think we're looking at a right-wing military government as the best-case scenario. We need our very own Francisco Franco right now. There was a great man.

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 February 22, 2021 2:10 PM  

Anyone else find it odd how China backs the Dems who are morally repugnant to China's sensibilities, but other than religion, would align rather well with base conservatives.

Really goes to show its all about hating Jesus.

Blogger Gator McCluskey February 22, 2021 2:20 PM  

@77 That's not quite the witty rejoinder you think it is, the JCS are not part of the .mil chain of command. They're an advisory board at best.

Blogger Jack Amok February 22, 2021 2:21 PM  

How feasible/useful is it to create a 3rd Party at this point?
The point is to kill the GOP.


Yep. As some people say, we don't need a third party, we need a second one.

Blogger Stryker4570 February 22, 2021 2:30 PM  

Third party or not, the US Government/Bureaucratic state, will brand any dissent from their approved narrative and business as usual as 'terrorism,' 'white supremacy' and 'hate.' It remains to be seen exactly how far the Harris/Biden administration will go in punishing those who object to their rule and ideology, but I can guarantee they are already at work to subvert and disenfranchise a third party. It will be nice to see the last gasps of the GOP though.

Blogger xyzzyx February 22, 2021 2:35 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:xyzzyx wrote:Where's the military now and are they going to exert their muscle.

I suspect they have already done their thing, gotten what they wanted, and are quite content with the status quo.



At this point I'm hoping now that all branches of what's left of our government have been revealed, only then will forces be unleashed. Isn't that what we believed on here would happen.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 22, 2021 2:53 PM  

The only path inside the system, weak as it may be, is pressuring GOP controlled state legislatures on election laws. Their getting stampeded in early COVID hysteria w vote by mail, and the monkey business it enabled, is a big reason why Trump lost.
State by state election laws upfront is also an area that Team Trump dropped the ball on. Again reactive instead of proactive.
I still think losing the election as some sort of trap is nonsense, since *everything* already done and needed to protect, and important things not yet done, hinged on still being President.

Blogger Elder Son February 22, 2021 2:56 PM  

Well, there is always The Tea Party. Right?

Why not just virtue signal our heads for the guillotine?

You will Babel, or die, is where we are heading.

I wonder how many grandfathers, fathers, sons, uncles, nephews it will take being martyred on their front porches before... it's a clue?

Blogger Storm Rhode February 22, 2021 4:00 PM  

The military is on its way to the middle east.

Blogger KingKrawFish February 22, 2021 4:31 PM  

If the goal is simply to render the republican party non-competitive, the easiest solution would to be to check the box next to either the libertarian or constitution party next go around.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 5:01 PM  

xyzzyx wrote:At this point I'm hoping now that all branches of what's left of our government have been revealed, only then will forces be unleashed. Isn't that what we believed on here would happen.
After three decades of promoting only the wokest officers, our top military brass is treasonous and corrupt. I've always been very skeptical of the idea that any of them would ever threaten the Deep State, because they are Deep State.
Newscaper312 wrote:The only path inside the system, weak as it may be, is pressuring GOP controlled state legislatures on election laws.
The Alaska GOP is all in on the corruption, and we aren't going to stop the future steal if we vote R or D.
Newscaper312 wrote:I still think losing the election as some sort of trap is nonsense, since *everything* ... hinged on still being President.
It will certainly be a happy surprise if we are wrong about that.

Blogger xevious2030 February 22, 2021 5:17 PM  

“How feasible/useful is it to create a 3rd Party at this point?”

It doesn’t matter at this point. Feasibility is an excuse, and not meant in a Lebretardian sort of way. Nor is the focus on actual voting, given the Dominion voting machines have likely taken care of that for us. It is a calling out of. It is a drawing of a line, and crossing it to the other side, to separate from. And it will be infected from the get-go, which means a healthy immune system is a must. It is itself an action, or it is nothing. And you’ll be treated like it.

Blogger English Tom February 22, 2021 5:17 PM  

@vfm#7634

The pilot who flew Franco into Spain to get the party started just happened to work for MI6.

Nothing is ever what it seems.

Blogger xevious2030 February 22, 2021 5:21 PM  

And remember, the proper response to "violence is never acceptable" is "1776 disagrees. It's who we are. It's where we come from. It's more American than apple pie."

Blogger Autarky Bear February 22, 2021 5:27 PM  

The system is obviously rigged. There is no point to further involve myself with it. I won't be voting in the future and focusing on avoiding politics as much as possible.

Blogger van helsing February 22, 2021 5:35 PM  

the gopers wear the brand as a skinsuit. so can trump people. kick out the turds then call the party something else.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 22, 2021 5:46 PM  

"This is where the military tribunals could blow up both parties, even if the Dems take the hardest hit. The GOP is so compromised, 3/4 of them will be join the 95% of the Dems arrested en mass."

Haha, no, naive. Try 98-100% of repubs. Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. F*** them all, I've seen more than enough to demonstrate that the ones not openly backstabbing now are just the more cautious ones, loyalty isn't in the political dictionary anymore.

"The only solution is a comprehensive change in everything we spend money on."

When will you learn that our financial input is irrelevant as long as the currency is hostile-controlled fiat? USD don't matter for shit, they're just an enemy spell that still works because of idiots who still believe it.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 22, 2021 5:50 PM  

"you can't shoot or vote your way out of."

We could definitely shoot our way out. The problem is most of us are still lazy sleeping retarded dogs not hurt enough yet by the nail in the floor to get up and move, and the enemy strategy counts on slow rolling that. The dogs that get hurt enough get put down before they can rouse the others.

Blogger Weouro February 22, 2021 6:47 PM  

Weve been voting for hundreds of years. If our governing philosophy has lead us to this, of what use is our governing philosophy? To paraphrase Anton Chigurh

Blogger OneWingedShark February 22, 2021 6:56 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:JG wrote:This new party will fall to subversion unless is it both Christian and American nationalist.
If Trump heads it, it will fail on the second count.
As others have said, voting is irrelevant now anyway. The only thing that counts is the vote counters, and they don't need your stinkin' votes.

This is very true.

MichaelJMaier wrote:This isn't "blackpilling". It's just acknowledging reality. I want to be wrong but I think they're making war inevitable. If forced to guess, I'd say it's to push white Christian nationalists to the brink so they'll ID themselves and be more easily destroyed.
"We have to kill THOSE BITTER CLINGERS for the Greater Good."

They already have this slated. Haven't you heard how they're shifting the narrative to evil "white supremacists"?
Hell, they've primed the pump, floating the notion of "multi-racial white-supremacy" or some nonsense like that.

Pray.
Pray hard, because Jesus is the only hope for our Nation.

KingKrawFish wrote:When was the last time the republican party Represented a real alternative to the Democrats?
Before any Millennial's living memory: remember that it was Reagan who passed amnesty.

Ominous Cowherd wrote:ThomasO wrote:I stopped voting Republican until Trump & don't plan on going back. I'm tired of being stabbed in the back by Republicans.
The question is whether we should vote at all.

I suspect the voting will be in numbers: 5.56, 5.7, .30-06, .45, and .50… but I also think that the elites are angling to be the "proactive" side (read: 'aggressor'), but want to retain a "victim" stance.
That is to say, they're likely going to false-flag a white-supremacist/-nationalist incident and react to that.
Something about them compels them to cry out in pain, even as they viciously attack.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 22, 2021 7:32 PM  

Yukichi Sensei wrote:Again, he points out that when you use the Plebs in your wars, you can only ignore them at your own peril.
The problem here is that for the past 20 years the wars the common-folk have been used in are precisely to destroy the most proactive, loyal, and patriotic segment of society.

Ominous Cowherd wrote:JWM in SD wrote:Yes, but that effort cannot be half hearted. It damn well better destroy the RNC and supercede it or else we're simply divided against the democrats which is what they want.
Better divided against the democrats than voting for their GOP clones - if voting matters at all.

At least the Democrats are honest in their contempt and hatred of you, right?
I'm tired of being stabbed in the back, having leadership that positively delights in snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, and simply revels in injustices.

Ominous Cowherd wrote:[Redacted] wrote:Americans are in the sort of mess you can't shoot or vote your way out of.
We have proven voting won't work. We haven't even tried the other yet, so it's a little early to say it won't work.

Absolutely this.
But, OTOH, the other side is pushing like hell to make this happen; the question that must be asked: Why?
Is it because they're confident they have enough foreign support among the aliens?
Is it because they're rushing to cover their weakness?
Is it because they're feeling strong/accomplished?
Is it, as I suspect, a combination of ALL the above?

Jack Amok wrote:How feasible/useful is it to create a 3rd Party at this point?
The point is to kill the GOP.

Yep. As some people say, we don't need a third party, we need a second one.

Exactly this; it's been pretty obvious for 10 or 15 years.

Elder Son wrote:I wonder how many grandfathers, fathers, sons, uncles, nephews it will take being martyred on their front porches before… it's a clue?
And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.
― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn, The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

Blogger Amethyst Dominica February 22, 2021 7:40 PM  

The best thing to do is dig in our heels and resist the government at all levels. Legally, of course. Stop buying products from people that hate you. Don't send your kids to government schools or colleges. Don't let your kids join the military. Starve the beast. And encourage everybody around you to do the same.

Blogger Akulkis February 22, 2021 7:55 PM  

>> Many voices have cried out for civil war and/or revolution. Seems there is a whole lot of people in this country that doesn't have a stomach for war... Especially one as brutal that they would be. I am beginning to suspect there is no solution.

If everyone on the right simply removed two leftists, it would be solved.

Permanently.

Blogger xevious2030 February 22, 2021 10:27 PM  

“Is it because they're confident they have enough foreign support among the aliens?”

Prescient question. Always remember that they do not do real. They. Do. Not. Do. Real. Which means this is preparing the scene, and setting the mood, for a greater narrative. Even their revolutions are fake, prepared and managed, from both sides.

Bad news for them is that “Lost” works on TV, but real changes reality from their script, and this batch hasn’t the wherewithal to recover. They can only push on. Which means it is time to spin the world really fast.

Blogger Jack Amok February 22, 2021 10:38 PM  

Americans are in the sort of mess you can't shoot or vote your way out of.

You can always shoot your way out of a problem. You might shoot your way into a new problem, maybe even a worse one, but that's the gamble you take when nothing else has a chance to solve the problem.

Blogger JWM in SD February 22, 2021 10:42 PM  

But that is why they have open borders.

Blogger JWM in SD February 22, 2021 10:57 PM  

It doesn't. Like a couple of posters above, I ultimately think thst withdrawl of consent is what is required to collapse support and make it obvious. We are actually much closer to that than most realize. Look at what happened in GA.

Blogger JWM in SD February 22, 2021 11:09 PM  

Withdraw consent from the GOP forcing the RINOS to chase after the consent of the left to remain in office and reveal their true nature. The GOP will collapse and then you'd have an actual 2nd party. Of course they will attempt to stop it with immigration or civil war.

Blogger Azimus February 22, 2021 11:09 PM  

106. AkulkisFebruary 22, 2021 7:55 PM
If everyone on the right simply removed two leftists, it would be solved.


That means the right is outnumbered 2:1?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 11:13 PM  

xevious2030 wrote:And remember, the proper response to "violence is never acceptable" is "1776 disagrees. It's who we are. It's where we come from. It's more American than apple pie."
And Jesus told us to sell our coats to buy military weapons. What would Jesus do? He set us an example by committing assault. Appropriate violence is the Christian thing to do.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 22, 2021 11:17 PM  

Richard Holmes wrote:Many voices have cried out for civil war and/or revolution.
Cried out for? or see it coming and crying out a warning? Want it or not, it's going to be forced upon us, and we better win.
Akulkis wrote:If everyone on the right simply removed two leftists, it would be solved.

Yes.
Akulkis wrote:Permanently.
No. The ride never ends.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel February 22, 2021 11:59 PM  

@93

I don't know if you've noticed, but in addition to being a herd of cats, the Libertarian Party is a deader end than the GOP.

Look what they stand for:

Open borders.

Cannabis Legalization/decriminalization

Homosexual pseudonogamy (not my term: credit Anthony Esolen)

Free markets.

In other words, things that the Democrats have delivered, are delivering or promise to deliver.

With so many kids brainwashed into thinking socialism is Paradise, the libertarian party serves no purpose.

The only people that subscribe to to limited regulation and free markets are the professional libertarians-you know the college economics professors who call for competition while enjoying tenure, call for open borders while living in gated communities and believe in complete reliance on market exchange, while working for think tanks like the Cato Institute which relies substantially on donations from people like the remaining Koch brother.

In short the average person interested in the hedonistic aspect of the LP can get that from the Dems, with a healthy dose free this and free that.

Blogger Harambe February 23, 2021 1:54 AM  

You don't have to shoot anyone. You can start by running for your local home owners' association or local council. Once enough good people are in position, you can put forward a candidate for mayor. If you start hyper-local, you would have gotten rid of the micro-scale fraudsters. And once you have a good mayor, you won't even have to care who your governor or president is. But you can go after those too if you have the strength.

The first order of business is to get the fraudsters out of your immediate vicinity. Then consolidate.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2021 4:31 AM  

"Weve been voting for hundreds of years. If our governing philosophy has lead us to this"

Please, it's not the governing philosophy that got us here. It's the us.

"Something about them compels them to cry out in pain, even as they viciously attack."

Imagine a system composed to do a thousand things well, but after a thousand degeneratively divergent iterations of the system, some of the instances can only do an ingrown version of one thing well.

The instances are the "elites" and the one ingrown thing is psychopathy. Don't expect any redeeming qualities, the god of this world has been breeding, training, and acculturating those out of them for a long, long time.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2021 4:33 AM  

"The best thing to do is dig in our heels and resist the government at all levels."

Sole resistance is the domain of conservativism. It's the dumbest, most wasteful thing to do.

Blogger SacrificialLamb February 23, 2021 6:42 AM  

104. OneWingedShark

Absolutely this.
But, OTOH, the other side is pushing like hell to make this happen; the question that must be asked: Why?
Is it because they're confident they have enough foreign support among the aliens?
Is it because they're rushing to cover their weakness?
Is it because they're feeling strong/accomplished?
Is it, as I suspect, a combination of ALL the above?


They're rushing.

They have a preplanned deadline. I guarantee it.

The Prometheans that control politicians, judges, district attorneys, medical organizations, and media whores are OBSESSED with the occult and "numbers magic". They're DESPERATE to force everything to rapidly fit into a preplanned schedule. If it feels like they're rushing, it's because they are.

However, if you want to crush the fake legitimacy of the "Uni-Party", then the answer is obvious:

You have to destroy the Republican Party.

And guess what? That's an attainable goal. The Republicans are controlled opposition. They play the role of "principled losers" and "socially acceptable racists". Normies have to be BEATEN OVER THE HEAD, in regards to the election fraud committed by BOTH political parties. Once a critical mass of people accept that nearly every American politician in the "Uni-Party" is blackmailed or bribed, and part of a massive LARP, then everything changes.

To destroy the Republican Party, you need a CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST movement to Biblically SHITLORD the Prometheans over and over again. Such a movement must be more ruthlessly self-righteous than the SJWs themselves.

Doing this won't win elections. Election fraud is inevitable, but winning elections is not necessary. Many problems can be solved without voting.

The goal is to provoke people into seeing through the (((mask))), and recognizing that this corrupt system cannot be repaired.

How? For starters, prevent your kids from joining the military, grow your own food, reject LGBTQ, reject "Critical Race Theory", control your local government, homeschool your kids, delete your Facebook and Twitter accounts, build your own Christian Nationalist institutions, reject the vax cult (GMO medicine) and mask cult nonsense, and support non-converged Christian Nationalist institutions.

Ultimately, a Christian Nationalist movement will have to be brutally honest about the "JQ", and openly discuss other unpleasant topics like: Luciferianism, pedophilia, homosexuality, black crime, human trafficking, exposing the "Loyalty Oath" to Israel signed by members of Congress, relentlessly discussing the systemic election fraud, the abortion industry, the surveillance state, mask cults, poison vaccines, genetic modification, etc....and doing this stuff will probably be unpleasant. While this is done, we need to be spreading God's Word.

The goal here is NOT to win elections. The goal is to destroy the legitimacy of the Uni-Party, while reigniting people's faith in Jesus Christ. The destruction of the Republican Party is the key to that, since the "racist" Republican Party is a huge political WEAKNESS of the Cabal anyway. The Republican candidates are NOT fighters, and were deliberately chosen for their corruptibility and WEAKNESS.....and were also chosen to surrender the moral high ground to the "non-racist" Democrats. That makes them more vulnerable to an angry and morally righteous Christian Nationalist third party enemy of the Uni-Party, since the Republicans are bad at being morally self-righteous. And delegitimizing the Republican Party functionally tears the Uni-party in half.

If a critical mass of people understand that VOTING DOESN'T MATTER, and that we have an illegitimate media and government.....then many more people will choose to solve their problems in ways other than voting.

But ultimately, the Republican Party cannot be reclaimed, and so it must be NUKED.

Blogger MrNiceguy February 23, 2021 12:24 PM  

I think a slice of bologna might send the appropriate message.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2021 1:00 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:But, OTOH, the other side is pushing like hell to make this happen; the question that must be asked: Why?
It hardly matters why. The important point is that they are pushing for a civil war, and we have no way to stop them. There's going to be a war. We'd better win. Got your garden started? You're going to need it.

Blogger Toms7866 February 23, 2021 5:08 PM  

I think we, as a nation, are far past the "vote harder" phase of saving ourselves from the likes of Kami, AOC, Talib and the rest of the big, brown, diverse Scooby Gang of communists.

Blogger Toms7866 February 23, 2021 5:09 PM  

I think we, as a nation, are far past the "vote harder" phase of saving ourselves from the Kami, AOC, Talib and the rest of the big, brown, divers Scooby Gang of communists, currently in power.

Blogger JWM in SD February 23, 2021 8:01 PM  

Nope...that likely won't work anymore as they will socially converge those micro institutions as well through cv19 bullshit.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 24, 2021 8:30 AM  

xyzzyx wrote:At this point I'm hoping now that all branches of what's left of our government have been revealed, only then will forces be unleashed.
What forces are left besides you and me? Maybe that was The Plan all along.

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