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Friday, February 19, 2021

Good news, bad news

In case you're not up on Greek history and you didn't read the entirety of The Thirty Tyrants article on Tablet, you should still be aware of what could be in store in the event it turns out to be a predictive model:

What does history teach us about this moment? The bad news is that the Thirty Tyrants exiled notable Athenian democrats and confiscated their property while murdering an estimated 5% of the Athenian population. The good news is that their rule lasted less than a year.

After eight months of misrule, they were overthrown by armed rebels.

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Blogger Meanoldbasterd February 19, 2021 11:07 AM  

As a % of population.... What's 15 million or so people between friends?

Blogger Crazy Dave February 19, 2021 11:08 AM  

time to KTF

Blogger Crew February 19, 2021 11:17 AM  

And now you see why the Democrats are trying to enact gun confiscation laws!

Blogger Steve Canyon February 19, 2021 11:32 AM  

Perhaps these thirty tyrants should watch Dirty Dozen to see how well bunkers fare should they consider that a viable option.

Blogger CF Neal February 19, 2021 11:36 AM  

Speaking of armed rebels . . .

WAG THE DOG doggerel returns to their own vomit. Read this "document" and see if you agree that it reads more like pulp fiction than legal facts:

https://ecf.dcd.uscourts.gov/cgi-bin/show_public_doc?2021cr0118-24

Blogger kurt9 February 19, 2021 11:37 AM  

Machiavelli talks about the same thing with regards to the Gentry in the Discourses. He states that the Gentry do not belong in any functional society. He states several times through out the book the Gentry must be slaughtered in order to restore a functional society.

Blogger Damelon Brinn February 19, 2021 11:40 AM  

Like most Americans, I learned no history in school, so I'm thankful that there are people laying out these parallels to read more about.

I need to study up on the Weimar Republic, because at first glance that looks relevant to today as well.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 19, 2021 11:43 AM  

I find it interesting that Tablet Mag is explicitly a Jewish endeavor, yet did this much truth telling.
Any thoughts on that aspect?

Blogger Darwin is a Harsh Mistress February 19, 2021 11:49 AM  

Those dictators speak, often, of "hate." I did not know the meaning of the word before these last four years. Now I understand the Tyrants' fear. Of us, whom they hate.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei February 19, 2021 12:07 PM  

Yep. Rhetoric and dialectic was strong with that article.

Thanks for the recommend, Vox.

Blogger modsquad February 19, 2021 12:14 PM  

Speaking of armed rebels, Canada is outlawing airsoft, air guns and BB guns.

Blogger FacelessBro February 19, 2021 12:17 PM  

On the bright side, we've got plenty of "armed rebels" waiting in the wings.

Blogger Luis February 19, 2021 12:18 PM  

If only the timeline was known (I know it's above my pay grade)
Fight in the shade bois!

Blogger James Dixon February 19, 2021 12:31 PM  

> After eight months of misrule, they were overthrown by armed rebels.

That's the way it normally plays out yes. I doubt the US is going to be an exception to the rule.

Blogger [Redacted] February 19, 2021 12:38 PM  

The new patriotism is investing money in as local as possible, making everything you can yourself, and mentoring others as a form of Christian charity. The war is economic, and that means taking pride in starving the enemy and loving your friends and family.

Blogger mh01701@gmail.com February 19, 2021 12:44 PM  

I read the article and find hope. With vox's stress on morale, the VFM reminding us of the good , the beautiful and the true, here is the final piece to the puzzle. Less than a year. That's good thats beautiful and that's ...bwahahaha.

Blogger dienw February 19, 2021 1:05 PM  

kurt9 wrote:Machiavelli talks about the same thing with regards to the Gentry in the Discourses. He states that the Gentry do not belong in any functional society. He states several times through out the book the Gentry must be slaughtered in order to restore a functional society.

Didn't Sherman say something about the sons of the plantation owners; but this would also apply to the children of the Robber Barons and Tech Lords?

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 19, 2021 1:15 PM  

A year?
But...but... that's longer than a season of my favorite TV show! This can't drag on. I just want to put it behind me so I can get on with my life!
All that self indulgence missed! I wont win the fat and lazy award that my g generation is competing for. There's television to watch. There's faces to stuff. There's endless self gratification to be enjoyed!
My whole life I said "I'll be dead by the time that happens". So this just can't be happening! This feels like sacrifice! Like having a family all over again.
--T. Boomer

Blogger Newscaper312 February 19, 2021 2:01 PM  

@Dienw
A pox on all TPTB after the Civil War, wh didn't follow through on repatriating freed slaves to Africa.

Crooked Northerners used ignorant black voters during Reconstruction to install their fellow carpetbagging crooks into state governments.
Surviving Southern big landowners still wanted cheap labor to work the fields, slaves becoming sharecroppers, slaves in all but name. Some poor whites got roped into that too.

Blogger GeronL February 19, 2021 2:55 PM  

So they were the forerunners of the Committee on Publuc Safety. History does have an echo.

Blogger OneWingedShark February 19, 2021 3:50 PM  

Meanoldbasterd wrote:As a % of population…. What's 15 million or so people between friends?
And how many do you think have been eliminated because of the shutdowns?
Certainly the astronomical rise in suicides are direct results, but what about those who have had their life's work destroyed?
What about the janky "vaccines" that are being pushed currently?
It's likely that we've already broken a million.

And what if they cut power, or the food supply?

Crew wrote:And now you see why the Democrats are trying to enact gun confiscation laws!
Bingo.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn put his finger on it though, it's not about the tools: it's about the will.

Darwin is a Harsh Mistress wrote:Those dictators speak, often, of "hate." I did not know the meaning of the word before these last four years. Now I understand the Tyrants' fear. Of us, whom they hate.
Ah, but it is our Christian duty to hate their works utterly: The fear of the Lord if to hate all evil.

[Redacted] wrote:The new patriotism is investing money in as local as possible, making everything you can yourself, and mentoring others as a form of Christian charity. The war is economic, and that means taking pride in starving the enemy and loving your friends and family.
I would like to be able to do this; however I'm currently constrained to a rather remote location.

Blogger lynnjynh9315 February 19, 2021 5:49 PM  

There are dozens of factions within jewry. Israelis, disaspora, reformed, secular, orthodox, etc. Some are even shockingly based.

Look up Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi.

Blogger Rough Carrigan February 19, 2021 11:15 PM  

The parallels aren't perfect, though. Several of the leaders among the 30 tyrants were proteges of Socrates who was an asshole and a snob of the first order. I.F. Stone began writing his book The Trial of Socrates intending it to show how the terrible commoners had unfairly maligned and dealt with a genius. Upon doing research, Stone ended up writing a book that paints a fairly scathing portrait of Socrates.

But there's no intellectual backing of any significant kind to our modern day oligarchs.

Blogger map February 19, 2021 11:46 PM  

“A great article explaining how the American elite’s alliance with China is very much like the Athenian elites letting Sparta win so it would dissolve the democracy which gave too much power to the lowly plebes, and establish the Athenian elite as a permanent ruling class. ”

The Tablet which this article appears—-IS A JEWISH SITE. When are we GOING TO STOP LISTENING TO JEWS AND THEIR FELLOW TRAVELLERS????????????

I’m sorry AC, but as a armchair classicist—that article is a heavily propagandized Judaized version of reality!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It talks of “”””:The Athenian government disloyal to Athens’ laws and contemptuous of its traditions was known as the Thirty Tyrants, “””””””””””

ABSOLUTELY Ridiculous sentence!!!!!!!

Pireaus is the HOME of Democracy—NOT Athens. The Hoplite class, the TRADITIONAL class of Greek politics and TRADITION, hated democracy because it was from the Sailor class. There are TWO Points about the history of Democracy in Athens. The Cretan Seer Epimenides, who helped Solon create Mixed government in Athens—said, “Beware Munychia”. Munychia was a hill in Piraeus. As early as the sixth century, Epimenides saw the danger of democracy. Throughout Greek classical antiquity, political power always rested in the Hoplite class. That was taken away by political propaganda of foreign merchants in Piraeus—Why did Plato excoriate “””Foreign elements”””. For it was the FOREIGN Elements, a shipping port that brought FOREIGN influences to Athens through Piraeaus. Socrates and Plato were of the Hoplite Class. Lee Smith, a pro-Jew, or maybe even jewish, is about twisting history to preserve Jewish government of Democracy which is NOT European!!!

The Ionian Greeks were NOTORIOUS for Orientalizing—they gave up on their tribal customs—and adopted foreign ways. The Ionian Greeks of Athens were NO different since they were a society of merchants. The Mercantile ways of Athens destroyed her. Why was Sparta admired by the Athenian intelligentsia and by the Hoplite class—because Sparta KEPT her tribal customs PURE. They did NOT orientalize.

Solon set up MIXED government in Athens—incorporating ALL the elements of Traditional Athenian society. Solon was an admirer, adherent and disciple of Spartan culture, trying to restore European tradition in Athens with the help of the Cretan Seer.

From my paper: “””Aristotle remarks that around 480 B.C., the Athenian polity was by slow stages growing into a democracy and about 462 B.C., the senate, the Council of the Areopagites, was stripped of its powers and the constitution relaxed turning the Athenian politiea into a democracy.45 (q.v. Appendix II) The leadership of Ephialtes is the demarcation point between the two forms of government. The destruction of the Senate or its removal of powers is what ends classical republics.”””

That’s TRADITION????????????? Democracy was a REVOLUTION IN ATHENS! NOT Tradition.

Classical definition of a republic 5th Rev.
https://www.academia.edu/5280564/

STOP GOING TO JEWISH SOURCES. STOP READING THE JEWS AND PHILO-SEMITIC Europeans.

iT WAS Foreign Elements that created Democracy in Athens. Democracy is JEWISH GOVERNMENT.

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Blogger Laconic February 20, 2021 1:31 AM  

Just make lethal blow darts then. Quiet too!

Blogger Jeremy V February 20, 2021 11:40 AM  

Indeed-but will they understand what will come of it? They better get started on their homework!

Blogger English Tom February 20, 2021 11:43 AM  

@OneWingedShark

Re: and what if the cut the power, or the food supply.

Claus Schwamp, sorry Schwab, and his peeps at the WEF are running simulations based on what they call a Cyberpandemic. Schwamp stating that this would make the societal impact of the current rona pandemic look like a little bump.

Considering that they ran simulations of the rona outbreak months before it happened, I would expect next winter to be extremely bleak and harsh.

Get prepared because it's coming.

Blogger Cwyn February 20, 2021 1:55 PM  

The good in this situation: America is more respective of their military than of the civil government. Aliens are seen as in charge, not natives. The military isn't interested in His Fraudulency and crew; I suspect they are just waiting to swoop in and take them out. The Federal and state are largely useless to the actual lives of people who live here. Cops and Fire are about the only two institutions most will miss, and I expect some mil types privatizing police and possibly fire in the future should government go bonkers. Before becoming government. If we are Athens, we are also global Sparta.

Blogger Shimshon February 20, 2021 2:36 PM  

lynnjynh9315 wrote:There are dozens of factions within jewry. Israelis, disaspora, reformed, secular, orthodox, etc. Some are even shockingly based.

Look up Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi.


Rabbi Yaron Reuven too. He repeatedly rips some Jews' desire for making easy money in businesses like payday loans and similar. Says repeatedly that they will be sorry in the end, and no amount of generosity using ill-gotten gains will help them.

Blogger Andrew February 24, 2021 7:05 AM  

Sounds like you got the good and the bad news reversed.

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