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Tuesday, February 23, 2021

The con man's escape

If you don't understand how Rush Limbaugh was a gatekeeper and a deceiver rather than the fearless pursuer of truth that he publicly affected to be, consider this Clinton-era exchange from his radio program. Pay particular attention to the way he generates a way to extricate himself from the discussion in a manner designed to discredit the caller:

Larry: The point- well, I don't know if he committed suicide or not, but I know we haven't been told the truth, and you always say you're in relentless pursuit of the truth, but not on the this issue you're not. You ducked this issue. You do not pursue the truth here. That's a fact. We've not been told the truth, and that's the fact, too. You can read the Fiske report and see that it's full of errors. Have you read the Fiske report?

Limbaugh: I- yeah- well, no, but I.

Larry: Well then, you're not in pursuit of the truth.

Limbaugh: ..but, I-, I- so, what we have here, you are---

Larry: You're not informed.

Limbaugh; ...you are not, as- as Mr. Snerdley thought, a Clinton supporter.

Larry: Well, I think Clinton's going to be re-elected.

Limbaugh: No, no, no. Did you tell him you were a Clinton supporter..

Larry Yes. I, yeah, I... (Limbaugh dumped his telephonic tormentor.)

Limbaugh: Well, so you lied, Larry. So, when you tell one lie, all of what you say is worthless. That's the mantra, today. So sir, you're not going to be rewarded by saying- you don't have to lie to get on this program. If you are in the pursuit of Vince Foster being murdered, get your own show, and you go out and pursue it as best you- as best you can, but don't lie to get on this program, to accuse me of malfeasance, or some- some sort of incompetence, as host.

If we are to judge Limbaugh by his own standard, everything he ever said was worthless. First, that's a ridiculous standard. Second, how would Larry's preference for Clinton or Dole make any difference whatsoever with regards to the subject being discussed? Limbaugh was merely casting about for an excuse to extricate himself from a position that was discrediting him, which is exactly what con men do. Notice how he suddenly becomes much more smooth and eloquent once he has established his rhetorical escape route.

Beware the man who always uses the word "because" to rationalize his words and deeds. An honest man is content to state his position. The dishonest man always has to sell you on whatever it happens to be at the moment.

Now, I don't care about Rush Limbaugh and a perusal of the blog archives will demonstrate that I never have. But as Sam Harris and Jordan Peterson fans can confirm, one of the most effective ways to focus my baleful gaze on an individual or a concept about which I am otherwise indifferent is to dispute my casual comments on the subject. So, if you're a big fan of Rush, I would recommend that you don't try too hard to defend him here.

UPDATE: I am far too busy to even begin doing the research that would be necessary to write such a book. And Rush is no longer even potentially relevant, for obvious reasons. Therefore, I will happily leave the task to some other writer.

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134 Comments:

Blogger LR27 February 23, 2021 8:09 AM  

Well, after the inescapable storm of "Rush was the goodest boy" comes, can we expect a Rushenetics book by June?

Blogger Breckmac February 23, 2021 8:11 AM  

Good post, voxster

Credit where credit is deservedly due

Blogger Soap and Ham February 23, 2021 8:13 AM  

We all know he's really Jim Morrison. I never got through to ask who he would be playing next.

Blogger Bob Ramar February 23, 2021 8:13 AM  

I think that the reason Rush was on the radio was to 'draw a charge', like grounding a capacitor on a circuit board before working on it. It gave people the impression that 'somebody' was 'doing something' when it came to conservative values when, in fact, nothing was being done. He functioned like a safety valve to prevent a real conservative revolution from occurring.

As for 'taking the ticket', there was an article published online on Sunday from a jewish fellow (former staff writer) who said that Rush had become 'more spiritual' in the past year. He has, on occasion, referred to Christ, but I never once heard or read about him professing Jesus Christ as his Lord and Savior.

Blogger Fishslinger_Bear February 23, 2021 8:16 AM  

He had many of these types of exchanges and I always found them very frustrating. I had hoped he was just a lazy ignorant boomer, but your reasoning is solid. These types of exchanges were spread out just enough to keep me listening for many years, the littlest chicken hawk on the other hand does this constantly and it was much easier to recognize what he was very quickly and move on.

Blogger Shimshon February 23, 2021 8:20 AM  

Earlier in the transcript he plays word games with the idea that Hillary is running, solely because she once said you get two for the price of one. Even doubles down on the idea.

Blogger [Redacted] February 23, 2021 8:33 AM  

Rush "Get your own Show" Limbaugh
Rush "S-s-some sort of incompetence" Limbaugh
Rush "Smoking doesn't cause cancer" Limbaugh
Rush "Those are BLUE M&Ms" Limbaugh
Rush "I had a lot of fun I can't tell you about" Limbaugh

The Boomers followed fallen men because it didn't require change or sacrifice.

Blogger FUBARwest February 23, 2021 8:34 AM  

Sun Tzu needs to be required reading if for no other reason knowing yourself and the enemy will stop a lot of fan boys from starting stupid fights.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( LeBron James loves Asian Rape Farms and Slave Labor ) February 23, 2021 8:35 AM  

i once forced Alan Colmes to dump my call from his radio show and do a hard cut to an ad break.

if this transcript is accurate, Larry did almost as good of a job on Rush.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot February 23, 2021 8:37 AM  

Jeff Christie was a failure as a record spinner, but he still found a good-payin' gig in radio. Maybe he saw A Face in The Crowd on TV late one night; MPAI can be a sound investment guide, if you're willing to be ruthless about it.

Blogger thimscool February 23, 2021 8:37 AM  

EP brought the pain.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 23, 2021 8:38 AM  

I like how Rush told the guy to get his own show.
Because the internet would soon enough provide that ability.
Radio was always a gatekeeper. Heinously regulated by the FCC, requiring lots of logistical support. I have had the experience of trying to get past call screeners on the occasion that some host was being 10000 percent wrong on some topic.
Probably was doing it on purpose.
I remember Rush repeating the "we have to have immigration because Anericans wont do these jobs" line.
By around 2002 I was tired of him. But he was a fixture of the quaint 1990s mainly. Remember those days? Democrats weren't trying to kill us and Fox news was a big deal telling us truth.
Limbaugh, Hannity, O'Reiily... all of them gatekeepers. Ron Paul was invisible to them and that was enough to see, finally, what was going on.
I'm pretty much resigned to wondering what charlatan the boomercons will latch onto and mindlessly lap up everything that's said. The only defense against this is going to be to ridicule anybody that tries to fill the void and in such a way that shames the people looking for a void to fill, as they are so pathetic as needing another Limbaugh and for what? To pump their fist while all somebody else does is bitch and moan about double standards. Might as well make Jerseys with the guys name on it.

Blogger Grandpa Lampshade February 23, 2021 8:41 AM  

He didn't have Mark Levin's tactic of only letting them say a few words, muting them and yelling at them, unmuting them for a few more words then yelling and calling them stupid and hanging up.

Blogger The Lab Manager February 23, 2021 8:42 AM  

We know Mr. Constitution was a fraud in '08 and '12 when he would not support Ron Paul though looking back I disagree with RP on things like free trade and immigration, but overall a decent person who did profit from his time in Congress.

It's notable that this is even posted on his site says a lot about his true thoughts despite hours of babbling about 'muh freedom' and 'muh Constitution.' You have to wonder what side he is really on? I'm guessing radio profits.

https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/09/ron_paul_caller_slips_through/

Blogger Koen February 23, 2021 8:42 AM  

How dare you go at Limbaugh, how double dog dare you. I was with you.

Looking forward to the new book. "Rash: the spotty record of every conservative Boomer's favorite talk radio host."

Blogger jmg February 23, 2021 8:43 AM  

rush will be plying his skills in the underworld?

Blogger buzzardist February 23, 2021 8:44 AM  

When Limbaugh became big in the 1990s, my father was a big fan at first, but that soured quickly. My father tried to call into the show and, much as the above caller experienced, discovered that Limbaugh had a fixed, very narrow agenda. If you didn't fit into that agenda, if you weren't parroting exactly what Limbaugh wanted you to say, you didn't get on the show. My dad stopped listening. Other callers, like the guy above, opted to lie in order to get Rush to take their calls.

Granted, Limbaugh's format invited a lot of spergs and gammas who totally knew one, special bit of truth, and they invariably felt entitled to use Limbaugh's platform to share that truth with the world. Doing a live show with callers isn't easy. Limbaugh had to filter out a lot of freaks to keep his show coherent. However, my father realized that Limbaugh was less truth-seeker and more entertainer, and than Limbaugh was effectively protecting certain people and topics from scrutiny. Limbaugh selected only the people who would say what he wanted them to say, giving him the springboard to riff on the topics he wanted to talk about. Limbaugh quickly cut off and berate anyone who ran afoul of the carefully drawn boundaries.

Moderating is not necessarily gatekeeping, but the two can appear similar on the surface. Who was Limbaugh taking money from? Who was promoting his career? Was Limbaugh selecting topics, guests, and callers based on what those people wanted? Limbaugh never would have given a TV show, huge book deals, and increasingly large radio contracts if he were undermining the people paying him. Gatekeeper.

Blogger CM February 23, 2021 8:50 AM  

I liked Rush. I listened to him a lot when I started staying home. There were issues I had, but generally liked him.

I thought his sticking by Trump was admirable, but I started noticing some things in the last several years that had me questioning his usefulness. There were certain subjects his callers would want to push further than Rush was clearly comfortable with and his maneuverings to keep on the proper side of the line was beginning to hurt conversation.

I’m glad he existed. He did drive conversation. As a gatekeeper, I don’t think he was very effective. About as effective as libertarianism. They keep the door open to conversation far longer than other gatekeepers do and are more subtle at the gate. A lot of people snuck past.

A lot of Rush’s listeners jumped to Q anon and embraced the “Stop the Steal” rather easily in spite his discomfort with it. And libertarians figured out white men turning nationalists were coming from libertarians and libertarian leaning conservatives.

If anything, I found Rush useless once past the gate. But I can’t lie, he led me to the gate even if he didn’t let me through.

Blogger rumpole5 February 23, 2021 8:50 AM  

I will miss Limbaugh's program for the same reasons that I would miss this site should I have the misfortune to survive its demise. It was a source of many points of information and entertainment. As a long term listener I was aware that he was avoiding certain subjects. However, I don't ever recall him doing the outright misstatement of facts that have become so common on what he properly labeled the "drive by media". Toward the end, the internet rendered Limbaugh less and less useful as a first source of information. I almost always had already heard from other sources about any "new" fact Limbaugh discussed. That "cutting edge" was not so sharp anymore. He also had many Boomer blind spots. He was doubtlessly exposed to the same blind flag waving patriotism indoctrination that I recall as a child. Such was used by Bush and his corrupt neocon ilk, via the military/industrial folks, and then Obama and his ilk, to milk the USA for decades. On balance, however, his passing is a significant loss, and I pay that he entered into mercy.

Blogger Silly but True February 23, 2021 8:52 AM  

People lament his “lack of children” or “marriage experiences.”

His intimate relationships were not normal, and he treated several of his wives poorly.

Second wife Michelle was college student usher while Limbaugh was nearly twice her age.

Third wife Marta was an aerobics instructor whom he cheated on with his fourth wife while still married to wife #3.

These aren’t generally just actions of a guy just bad with love. They’re a reflection of poor judgment, predatory behavior, and bad morals.

Blogger JohnG February 23, 2021 8:57 AM  

I think it was during GWB's 2nd term after the Democrats took the house (2007?), Rush said on air that he was done carrying water for the GOP. After that his criticism of the GOP came more and more often, the last few years he was very vocal about it. Shortly before his death, one the last things he said was that the GOP would happily fade to oblivion to get rid of the conservatives. Not a defense, just an observation of the evolution over time.

Blogger wgmeisheid February 23, 2021 8:59 AM  

I worked in an OSi (Air Force version of NCIS) group at Andrews and we used a product called Cognos which was a business analytic tool for extracting information from complex data structures. Our chief Cognos analyst/programmer was a woman who had previously worked at the FBI running their Cognos effort on the Vince Foster case. She told us from the Cognos data it was obvious that Foster was murdered, but they manipulated the Cognos reporting to hide that fact. It was one of the reasons she left the FBI to come work at OSI. That was back in 1996. It was my first experience with coming to grips with serious systemic malfeasance in the FBI.

Blogger d February 23, 2021 9:03 AM  

Every exchange, every topic, every everything of these gatekeepers is for the sole purpose of absorbing dissent and rendering it ineffectual. It's always "insane"; never "felony racketeering from high office". It took me nearly a decade to catch on.

That self-professed Harmless Fuzzball lulled a generation into radical submissiveness and fanatical passivity. In the face of some sixty-six million Christian peasants systematically tortured to death by the judeo-atheist Bolsheviks, Conservatism offered "civil discourse" over tea and crackers. While top government cartel captains brag of aiding and abetting some fifty million documented Mexicans --national socialist invaders from a racially pure fatherland --Conservatism offered "Vote republican".

Good riddance to it and all its Pied Pipers.

Blogger Lee February 23, 2021 9:07 AM  

Rush was indeed a game changer when he started, it was wonderful and new to actually hear on the radio someone talking like a America loving constitutional conservative Republican.

For context to the post, Rush "moved liberals to the front of the line" as a tag line. It was his way of keeping the show entertaining and from being an echo chamber. People getting dumped like the above example happened quite regularly as people would lie just to get on a national radio show. Just as there is zero tolerance for misbehaving in the comments here, lying to Snerdley was a fatal error.

If you want to go after Rush, there's lots to dig up I'm sure. He had a live 15 hours\week radio show for 30+ years. Lots of material if you are looking for fault.

Blogger PVB February 23, 2021 9:09 AM  

Rush used to regularly disregard as "conspiracy" any mention of the New World Order back in the '90's and up until the objectives of Globalism became so obvious he had to acknowledge it or lose all credibility. I presume he did that just to avoid being lumped in with the Birchers and risk his radio show and access to the GOPe, whether he knew it was true or not. So, it was good to see him eventually come around, but I never lost the belief he was controlled and couldn't be trusted to tell the whole truth.

Blogger Shakey February 23, 2021 9:11 AM  

I never listened to Rush. I used to chalk it up to my old liberal self and the ideology I had banged into me as I was schooled. Now I'm wondering if maybe a part of me saw this side of him.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing a Vox takedown of Rush. The Peterson destruction is still one of my fondest memories on this blog.

Blogger Veritax February 23, 2021 9:16 AM  

Do you think Trump knew this about Rush?

Blogger Imwill February 23, 2021 9:18 AM  

“I think you’re wrong about Rush!”
::Wants baleful gaze of the dark lord’s eye turned on El Rushbo::

Blogger Solemn Sentinel February 23, 2021 9:18 AM  

For those of us that find it so entertaining when you pull the curtain back on the gatekeepers, but Vox! Your so wrong on all things Rush! For reasons! So whens the tear down coming?

Blogger dlstacy February 23, 2021 9:31 AM  

Black Mirror: 15 Million Credits, ending scene, that's Rush.

Blogger Darren February 23, 2021 9:31 AM  

Owen did get his own show.

And has been utilizing it to expose WIZARDRY like Rush displayed in this typical[ly frustrating] exchange. Though he did some good in Paving The Way etc. he too often relied on such nonsense, clever as a carnival barker, with a similar audience make-up.

Blogger JaimeInTexas February 23, 2021 9:34 AM  

Rush was a huge fan of William Buckley and National Review. Rush justified anything and everything the Bush presidents did.

Nuff said.

Blogger thechortling February 23, 2021 9:34 AM  

Limbaugh's show was about one-sided strawman-in-effigy tirades. It wasn't quite as high-pitched or (((racist))) as Savage but Limbaugh could go on a Savage-style kid-in-grocery-store, floor-face-mashing tantrum every day of the week. Both of them said stuff I was in agreement with part way in... then it would turn away from whatever morsel of truth they were dog-boning in that episode to the spin. They were the original smart boys you deal with on this blog. They taught a generation of youth to be smart boys... the truth is not the objective. Rhetorically dismembering your foe in debate-style tactics was the objective.

Now we have a soulless, non-thinking generation of meme blabbers. Boomers got verbal memes from their heroes and leadership. This generation gets it from "the internet" no matter the source be evil or good... if it's meme-orable, they repeat it.

Blogger ÆtherCzar February 23, 2021 9:36 AM  

Not a big Rush fan, and I haven't listened to him in years, but the thought of a Vox Day takedown of the man is intriguing. "Excellence in Bullshitting?" "The Ditto Scam?" "Half His Brain Tied Behind His Back - By Whom?" The mind reals with the possibilities. All in all, though, I think I'd rather see more Alt Hero comics, so please don't provoke Vox.

Blogger van helsing February 23, 2021 9:43 AM  

any caller who would mention stuff like (((tptb))) were hostile to whites and flooding the country with nonwhites would get broomed cause "they just didn't get it". oh, people lied to snerdley. who tf cares. the whole point, as vox says, is RUSH WAS KEPT. ticket-taker. if people who aren't being sincere call you a liar, who tf cares.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 23, 2021 9:46 AM  

@Lee. It will be very easy to find the gatekeeping information. The hard to find information will be how he promoted what will make America great and America again. How he helped take down the deep state instead of enabling it. That information will be difficult to find in the archives. Wake up.

Blogger KrapKutter February 23, 2021 9:47 AM  

Regardless of whether you embraced or disdained Limbaugh the fact is he was in the business of entertainment and creating a living for himself. Because he chose a viewpoint for success different from some peoples taste does not make it fallacious. As all the bloggers are in the game for ego and earn beware the sword of hypocrisy.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 23, 2021 9:49 AM  

"https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2012/01/09/ron_paul_caller_slips_through/"

Ah yes, I remember the "slip through" days. How in the various RP or related forums the more shadow of a rumor of a mention of Ron Paul by any of the "conservative" talking heads was like a crumb from the masters table. I think it was Laura Ingram who once said more than two words and somebody brought her flowers during a public book signing.

2008 and 2012 were the actual referendums on the Constitution and these conservatives shut it down twice.

The memories of such pointless desperation....and it was done to us on purpose.

Blogger rognuald February 23, 2021 9:51 AM  

Vox, you convinced me about Peterson and I was initially very skeptical of your opinion. I would like to see a complete take down of the mayor of Realville. Reality, no matter how painful, is necessary today.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2021 9:51 AM  

A number of years ago (I was going to type a few years, but time flies) I was in DC for a while on some work, and made it a point to go to Fort Marcy Park to the scene of the death.

For as obscenely wealthy as the houses are just outside the Parkway/Park, and as many cars as crowd onto the Parkway, it is very isolated there at that spot. It really could have gone either way-- a guy looking to eat his pistol, or a well executed body dump and setting up a false scene.

Blogger Ingot9455 February 23, 2021 9:56 AM  

On the plus side, I would have Rush playing during my carpool in the San Francisco Bay Area back in the 2000's and he reduced my liberal carpool-mate to tears just by having to listen to him. So there's that.

Blogger ObliviousSeeker February 23, 2021 9:56 AM  

Rush had immense heat on him from Media Matters and like groups. He had a phony mass boycott against him that, upon his own hired private investigation, turned out to be a group of five left wing fanatic women producing mass e-mails to his sponsors. His show was always under relentless assault from the left, literally hanging on every syllable looking for an angle to have him lose sponsors and ultimately removed from the airwaves.

Dr. Stanley Monteith criticized Rush Limbaugh for curtailing his discourse to within certain parameters. Rush was not Alex Jones. And now, many people shit on Alex Jones and say HE, also, is a ticket taker. It's ridiculous. Rush was very effective in his own way. But he had to play the game within certain boundaries. That's how I understood him. He also wrote conservative children's books (extremely important in the culture war).

I tuned in to him starting during the 2016 campaign season forward. It's very easy to put your foot in your mouth with conjecture about things like, you know, Seth Rich, or in the 90's Vince Foster. I think this take is about as uncharitable as it gets.

Blogger rekrapt February 23, 2021 9:58 AM  

I started thinking Rush was "approved opposition" around 1995. Pretty much barely tuned in around 2000. Like someone else here stated: "Rush led me to the gate." In the end, though, it was Vox who led me through it. Vox is the raw teller of truth that Rush claimed to be, but wasn't.

Blogger thechortling February 23, 2021 10:05 AM  

Alinksy:

Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.
You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own
rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity

From Rules for Radicals in the Tactics chapter.

Blogger Trumpeter February 23, 2021 10:10 AM  

Dang, I thought I was the only one who noticed that. I still won't listen to him.

Blogger R Devere February 23, 2021 10:11 AM  

CM wrote:I liked Rush. I listened to him a lot when I started staying home. There were issues I had, but generally liked him.

I thought his sticking by Trump was admirable, but I started noticing some things in the last several years that had me questioning his usefulness. There were certain subjects his callers would want to push further than Rush was clearly comfortable with and his maneuverings to keep on the proper side of the line was beginning to hurt conversation.

I’m glad he existed. He did drive conversation. As a gatekeeper, I don’t think he was very effective. About as effective as libertarianism. They keep the door open to conversation far longer than other gatekeepers do and are more subtle at the gate. A lot of people snuck past.

A lot of Rush’s listeners jumped to Q anon and embraced the “Stop the Steal” rather easily in spite his discomfort with it. And libertarians figured out white men turning nationalists were coming from libertarians and libertarian leaning conservatives.

If anything, I found Rush useless once past the gate. But I can’t lie, he led me to the gate even if he didn’t let me through.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well said! DITTOES from me!

I also was creeped out with Rush's almost unwavering support of the Bush Crime Family and all it's (((NeoCon)))hangers-on. Especially when it became so obvious that "W" was Cheney's awkward puppet and Cheney appeared so EVIL!

Blogger L February 23, 2021 10:15 AM  

I listened to his show in the mid-90's, but I became frustrated that Rush avoided obvious explanations to the behaviors he seemed to abhor and stopped listening. Still, he was like grade school for budding tradionalists/nationalists and I'd graduated. The boomercons I know never could graduate past the EIB Elementary School.

Blogger bw February 23, 2021 10:21 AM  

People don't want to seem to accept how far ahead the Babylonian Network is in their planning.
To paraphrase just a hint from our old friends: "We're the Actors. We act and while you try to figure out what's happened we've acted again and again" - Karl Rove

There's been no real Right - which historically is quite real White/Euro, since the WWs.

Blogger Daniel February 23, 2021 10:21 AM  

The "liberals to the front" was a deceptive practice. He used it to bait "problematic" opinions so he could avoid discussing them.

Because Boomer.

Blogger Crush Limbraw February 23, 2021 10:22 AM  

"Truly a Man Designed for His Time" - that was my eulogy for Rush - which did say something, but withheld worshipping him as an icon.
In many ways, Rush and DJT were similar - both CivNats understood who NOT to criticize.
Sooner or later, our icon worship will disappoint us, because discovering truth is a process, not an end state.
"Pissing on a man's grave ain't gonna make us a better man!" - read that on another Rush eulogy.

Blogger flyingtiger February 23, 2021 10:26 AM  

The good side of Rush: He stood up against the feminists AKA feminazis. He took the wind out of their sails. The feminazis lost credibility due to Rush. The bad side": He was soft on illegal immigration. He only talked about it during the BHO years, but slightly. The Trump years forced him to talk about immigration, but only in passing.

Blogger JM February 23, 2021 10:26 AM  

[Redacted] wrote:Rush "Get your own Show" Limbaugh

Rush "S-s-some sort of incompetence" Limbaugh

Rush "Smoking doesn't cause cancer" Limbaugh

Rush "Those are BLUE M&Ms" Limbaugh

Rush "I had a lot of fun I can't tell you about" Limbaugh


My favorite is "Sugar does not cause diabetes." I had a good laugh at that one.

He said that in reference to his product, Two if by Tea, which he was pushing for a few years. I thought it a little odd that he would roll out bottled iced-tea, but why not? I think it was his wife's business venture anyway. The stories by callers serving it to their liberal family members at Independence Day family gatherings were funny.

Rush grew over the years. He learned a lot of things, he even recognized many of his mistakes (free trade, for example). Sometime, around 2014 I think, he woke up to neoconism and said as much. I admired him for his growth. (And I don't really see that kind of growth in other radio talk show hosts.)

Blogger A.D. February 23, 2021 10:27 AM  

I'm starting to feel glad (proud?) that something about Rush set off my spider sense, and I immediately stopped listening to him many years ago after having heard only a couple of shows.

Blogger Iceeater February 23, 2021 10:29 AM  

Islamic fundemental truth says when ALL MEN are perfectly worshiping Alah, then Alah will return. Its jihad till then.

AFTER the infidels, the branches of islam must fight each other.

Perfection on earth by all men worshiping perfectly.

Long term employment for imams.

I agree Rush was not perfect.

Blogger Tars Tarkas February 23, 2021 10:29 AM  

Rush played the part of a partisan republican. His role back then was to be the official punching bag of the left. Conservatives would then feel the need to defend him from the ridiculous lies of the left and in the process, internalize some stupid thing he said. It's how gatekeeping works. They tried doing the same thing with Shapiro. Call him a sexist, racist neo-nazi, then the cuckservative center rallies around him and internalizes his cuckoldry and his Judaeo-christianity. After Shapiro, it was Tucker.

Blogger Ostar February 23, 2021 10:31 AM  

The time for info like this was when he was alive. (This is not a respect for the dead claim being made, or “leave Brittany alone”.)
Now it no longer matters and it’s more of a purity spiral or “no true Scotsman” to keep coming back to Rush with everyone jumping in to show how they weren’t fooled and won’t get fooled again.

Blogger bw February 23, 2021 10:33 AM  

someone talking like a America loving constitutional conservative Republican.

"Ticket, Please"

Blogger Azimus February 23, 2021 10:34 AM  

We have seen what the Servants of the Lie do to perceived threats - they attack and attack and attack until the target is destroyed. They failed to destroy President Trump, but my wife and I tallied up a mere 7 weeks of his administration when they weren't leveling some existential-level attack at him.

Then you look at Rush Limbaugh and he got smacked around some, but not nearly to the same extent. I don't know if he joined the Servants of the Lie, but he must have made some kind of peace with them. Because in his case the absence of war WAS peace...

Blogger Bob February 23, 2021 10:34 AM  

Some years ago I saw a photograph of Limbaugh sitting in Netanyahu's office in Israel, puffing away on a huge Cuban cigar, a very self-satisfied look on his face. That's when I quit listening to him.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2021 10:39 AM  

flyingtiger wrote:The good side of Rush: He stood up against the feminists AKA feminazis. He took the wind out of their sails. The feminazis lost credibility due to Rush. The bad side": He was soft on illegal immigration. He only talked about it during the BHO years, but slightly. The Trump years forced him to talk about immigration, but only in passing.

Professor MacKinnon was destroyed by god's chosen porno makers. I teach undergraduate law and when I get stuck with the Law and Society class I have to explain where all the wave of legal power and protection going to women got stopped. FMLA, a complete prohibition against white men flirting in the work place, women getting more favorable reviews even though they take child care time off... were all down to MacKinnon and her clique.

Except they went off against porn, and got it banned in Minneapolis.

So the entire media destroyed her--With Rush leading the charge. Everything she ever said was taken out of context, and Rush was chosen to make the most devastating attack.

She had observed that standard hetero sex means a man doing things physically to a woman, which is part of the issue in academia and workplace interactions.

Rush twisted that into "All sex is rape" and got it to stick.

Blogger Mr Smith February 23, 2021 11:11 AM  

Rush was definitely a gatekeeper for neoliberal capitalism, globalism. I stopped listening to Rush in my youth because of it, and how he'd attack Pat Buchanan (alongside the liberal media) for Pat's opposition to globalism.

"A caller called here and was giving me grief for not wanting to do what it took to protect American jobs, and so I said to him, 'If you are unskilled and uneducated, your job is going south. Skilled workers, educated people are going to do fine 'cause those are the kinds of jobs NAFTA is going to create. If we are going to start rewarding no skills and stupid people, I'm serious, let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do--let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work."- Rush Limbaugh

Blogger phil g February 23, 2021 11:17 AM  

Meh, always thought Rush was a squishy con at best. A smooth talking boomer civ nat. But ultimately always a member of the big club.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 23, 2021 11:34 AM  

@Krapkutter. You wrote: "the fact is he was in the business of entertainment and creating a living for himself. Because he chose a viewpoint for success different from some peoples taste does not make it fallacious."
You could say the same about any honest pimp.

Blogger Lando February 23, 2021 11:36 AM  

"Pissing on a man's grave ain't gonna make us a better man!"

But it does sometimes make one feel better.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2021 11:42 AM  

"Moderating is not necessarily gatekeeping"

Yes it is. The question is which gates and what's being kept out.

Blogger The Last Roman February 23, 2021 11:47 AM  

I heard him cut a caller off just because the guy mentioned the Israel Lobby. Mr. Limbaugh went on to ask Snergly how a nut case got past the phone screening.

Blogger VD February 23, 2021 11:49 AM  

"Pissing on a man's grave ain't gonna make us a better man!"

I disagree. Perhaps it will make some of you more hesitant to support the next gatekeeper to be presented to you for your adoration. Or the one after that.

Blogger Br'er Shaygetz February 23, 2021 11:56 AM  

I go to a previous comment I made elsewhere...

God is smashing a lot of idols lately...are we listening? ...or are we scrambling for another?

Maybe this is God's part in giving us our country back to us, rightly and completely looking to His anointed ones, not the pseudo righteous hucksters.

Blogger Noah B. February 23, 2021 11:58 AM  

Rush was a flaming hypocrite on the drug war and the police state that it helped spawn.

Blogger Lando February 23, 2021 11:59 AM  

"Rhetorical Dismemberment [should not be the objective]. Truth should be the objective."

Thank you for crystalizing that thought.

Blogger Andrew Jackson February 23, 2021 12:00 PM  

He was friends with the Bush devils ,that's all I have to know.

Blogger JaimeInTexas February 23, 2021 12:03 PM  

@18 and @19

Agree. I started listening to Rush a couple or 3 months after his show started broadcasting in Houston. He was definitely funnier in the early days.

Many of us, though, logically saw where a train of thought would lead and go there but Rush, preferring to stay in the "respectable" side of the GOP, would not. Slowly I listened less of Rush and for about 2 years did not listen to his show. I started listening again cognizant of his limitations.

Blogger Pat V February 23, 2021 12:07 PM  

The real Rush

http://relevanceandsignificance.blogspot.com/2021/02/problems-of-rush-limbaugh-delusions-of.html

Blogger John Bradley February 23, 2021 12:32 PM  

My biggest disappointment with Rush is that he had tremendous success and didn't build anything with it, aside from a very nice lifestyle for himself, his wife, and presumably his close friends.

Where's the Limbaugh Foundation, which should have been a thing years before he died, wherein he'd spend money supporting Proper Right-Wing Conservative Causes of various sorts? (At least until the Foundation would inevitably be converged and taken over by the Left.)

Mark Steyn is entertaining, but Rush had a huge platform that he could have used to expose his massive audience to new younger talent: Bill Whittle, Milo, St. Efan, etc. Especially Milo: if you can get past the "OMG, a flamboyant irreverant poof" thing it's almost impossible not to find him entertaining and interesting to listen to.

For a man who loved the message he was putting out, he did nothing to build a legacy that would continue his work after his death.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot February 23, 2021 12:40 PM  

She had observed that standard hetero sex means a man doing things physically to a woman

If you truly believe that "standard hetero sex" means a woman is nothing but a passive recipient, then "all sex is rape" is hardly a great leap.

Blogger RobertT February 23, 2021 12:52 PM  

If we'd just elected Pat Buchanan.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2021 12:52 PM  

"Pissing on a man's grave ain't gonna make us a better man!"
Forgiving the Evil the dead committed is Evil in itself.
For it foster and suport the spread of Evil.

The cattle places a lot of importance on its reputation.
If the cattle hears that an obviously, publicly Evil man that recently died is always spoke of in high regard, what does this Evil, filthy cattle would do ?
What is natural for it to do, Evil, filthy acts.


Pissing on demons' graves is holy duty.

Blogger Aurini February 23, 2021 12:57 PM  

"Because."

Man, that brought up some memories. I've heard that exact phrase from so many right-wing bloviators, who want to use specious logic to argue a pre-determined conclusion. Bad faith arguers. That's Limbaugh's real legacy, teaching the right-wing to argue like a bunch of jackasses.

Blogger The Lab Manager February 23, 2021 1:04 PM  

Pat V wrote:The real Rush

http://relevanceandsignificance.blogspot.com/2021/02/problems-of-rush-limbaugh-delusions-of.html


Yeah, that about sums it up. He covered all the correct points. I voted for Perot as a college student in the early 90's but only disagreed with on raising gasoline taxes to pay off the national debt. But much of what Perot said came true, though America shoots itself in the foot with stupidity like minimum wage and the government giving way too much to the unions, though not every CEO is really worth what they are being paid either.

Blogger Gen. Kong February 23, 2021 1:12 PM  

Rush used to regularly disregard as "conspiracy" any mention of the New World Order back in the '90's and up until the objectives of Globalism became so obvious he had to acknowledge it or lose all credibility.

Yes. He liked to ridicule the 'guys in the desert with 2000-watt radio stations' ranting about "conspiracy theories". He even had a "kook alert" to dismiss them. I think he later rolled them up with Ted Kazinski and used the Morricone theme from The Good, The Bad and the Ugly. I quit listening to him after he started carrying more water for Jorge W. Busheron (our first Messican Presidente) than the demonic brooms in the 'Sorcerer's Apprentice' Disney cartoon.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 23, 2021 1:17 PM  

@andrew Jackson. And the Bushes were/are friends with the Clintons!

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 23, 2021 1:18 PM  

Unknown wrote:Pissing on demons' graves is holy duty.
Absolutely. We can hope that Rush was demon-persuaded, not demon-posessed, but we mustn't let Nice get in the way of Truth.

Jesus wasn't nice. Don't you be nice either, Christian.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 23, 2021 1:18 PM  

@mr. Smith. And here we are.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2021 1:25 PM  

and yet Trump gave him the presidential medal of honor...whats that say about Trump?

Blogger Elder Son February 23, 2021 1:30 PM  

Pissing on a man's grave ain't gonna make us a better man!

May his gatekeeping standards live forever!

Blogger lckychrmsrr February 23, 2021 1:37 PM  

I quit listening to Rush and Hannity back in the early 00's but more so out of annoyance at the repetitive navel gazing than any whiff of sulphur. I'm not claiming that Rush wasn't a gatekeeping ticket taker. Yet, until reading the posts here this week I had just assumed Rush was too boomer for his own good and not actually aligned with Sauron.

For those of us with less than a +3stdev, what criteria/signs should we look out for when new sources do come onto the scene? From recent posts, it sounds like one is the sudden influx of mysterious funding. Are there others that are obvious to the pattern-recognition crowd here that can be shared?

Blogger Bezzle February 23, 2021 1:42 PM  

It was assumed at the time by alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater participants that the tormenting caller "Larry" was Hugh Turley, the eventual co-author of "Failure of the Public Trust" and associated website

Kavanaugh site section

Failure of the Public Trust (Amazon, large square-bound soft-cover)

Rodriguez interview

Sprunt lecture

Blogger Arthur Isaac February 23, 2021 1:44 PM  

I stopped paying attention when he stayed he was an entertainer. And I realized that was the most truthful thing I'd ever heard him say.

Blogger Ceasar February 23, 2021 1:44 PM  

It's ok to be jealous. Just don't advertise it.

Blogger VD February 23, 2021 1:47 PM  

whats that say about Trump?

That civnat Boomers are going to boom. This surprises you?

Blogger VD February 23, 2021 1:48 PM  

It's ok to be jealous. Just don't advertise it.

He's a corpse rotting in the ground. He has no children and leaves no intellectual legacy. Of what is there to be jealous? The fact that he died with a high net worth?

BFD.

Blogger SemiSpook37 February 23, 2021 1:54 PM  

Unknown wrote:and yet Trump gave him the presidential medal of honor...whats that say about Trump?

That was pure optics. The whole purpose of that gesture was to goad the leftists in that room.

I was never an absolutist when it came to Rush, mainly because I'm at work during the time the show is on. Sure, there were some bits that were amusing, but the sucking up to the Bushes was a major turnoff.

Not surprised that he took the ticket. With the whole saga of his drug addiction (which he did a deep dive into that was fairly insightful), that was the only way he could get the authorities to leave him alone. Damn shame, there.

Blogger Arthur Isaac February 23, 2021 1:58 PM  

@ObviousSeeker, Alex Jones is a ticket-taker. Listen to his Dec. 31st 1999 Y2K watch broadcast.

These guys are the faces for the 2 minutes of hate. Just because the left hates them doesn't mean they are truth tellers.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2021 2:16 PM  

>> If we'd just elected Pat Buchanan.

I liked Pat a lot in the 1990's, but knew he was too much the "gentleman,' and too little the 'fighter.' He had strengths beyond Trump, but weaknesses, which were far more important, way less than Trump. It wasn't going to happen with him.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2021 2:26 PM  

The 1945 movie Keeper of the Flame shows why we must speak the truth to avoid elevating false heroes. The wife, Katharine Hepburn is trying to preserve her husband's memory, his name is Robert Forest, because the people who loved him should not have their belief in him destroyed because she says that would destroy them. The reporter-Spencer Tracey, comes to the funeral to write the story of the hero's life and finds it odd when he asks if there was anyone who did not like Robert Forest. The resounding "no, everyone loved him" does not ring true so the investigation begins and takes the reporter to a place he never imagined. So to speak the truth about Rush Limbaugh is essential to keep things in perspective. Hero worship is a dangerous thing. My moment of truth came several years ago when he did one of his call dumps on someone who was trying to discuss the JFK assassination. Rush dismissed anyone who even entertained the slightest possibility that LH Oswald did not do it, as a kook conspiracy theorist. He emphatically shouted that LHO did it and that was the end of the story. He justified himself by saying that LHO was a communist and the fellow travelers in this country did not want to have their ideology sullied by this association so they put it out that he was a lone nut job. That was when I realized that Rush had some conspiracy theories of his own! I guess I was very naive then to think Rush really was a seeker of truth. But that day opened my eyes. (JFK assassination is important because I think that event marks to real entrenchment and growing pervasive influence of the intelligence community.) Every time he called himself the mayor realville and said he never subscribed to the conventional wisdom on anything I would find myself shouting into the radio---"Oh yes you do Rush!" He was probably the most conventional person of all. The war-mongering, the Lincoln worship are other examples of his convention. He was perfectly willing to acknowledge the deep state relative to what was being done to Trump, and even said to a caller towards the end of the Mueller investigation "Do you think this is the first time something like this has happened? These people have been doing this sort of thing for decades!" And I screamed into the radio again--"Yeah Rush, can you say JFK assassination boys and girls?" I wonder if he knew that the very term "conspiracy theory" was coined by the CIA to discredit anyone who questioned the Warren Report. Oh, well. I do admire how he essentially came from nothing and built his empire. I did enjoy the mocking/parodies. But as the other commenters observed, he would not cross certain lines. Remember the back-tracking apology in the Sandra Fluke kerfuffle? And with the explosion of the internet he became less relevant or necessary as a source of information. That was why I listened to him from the early 90's because I would learn about events days or sometimes weeks before they came out in other media. But as I said the internet took over that role. I did get the feeling over the last two years that he seemed to want to say more but never got there. Did he hold back to maintain his platform--maybe. Or did he really believe his own publicity--maybe. I do believe that now he knows who really killed JFK. I pray for his soul. But truth is important.

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2021 2:28 PM  

Outing Gatekeepers is just necessary, and has nothing to do with envy. People need to learn that people in any Media (or entertainment) making tons of money per year, probably had to pay a dear price. Their lives are sad, nothing to envy except by pure materialist fools. Are there exceptions? Yes, but they number few. Among journalists and talk shows in the MSM, I can think of almost no examples completely free. Lou Dobbs maybe? He's out now.

Blogger John Williams February 23, 2021 2:47 PM  

Rush dismissed any and all “conspiracy theories”. He’d also duck doing anything productive be hiding behind the excuse “I’m just an entertainer”

Blogger J8ke D February 23, 2021 2:48 PM  

Some of the responses here to Vox’s post SHOULDN’T shock me, but they do.

I assume it is disconcerting and difficult to accept that people you used to look to for guidance and guardianship get exposed as frauds or controlled opposition ruins your world view - I’d rather know the truth, no matter how uncomfortable, than to live in a prison of lies and deceit. For others? ....

Blogger Didas Kalos February 23, 2021 3:17 PM  

@unknown.it says Trump is a politician.

Blogger xevious2030 February 23, 2021 3:17 PM  

“I think that the reason Rush was on the radio was to”

CivNats keep would be nationalists in a cage. They provide some benefit, but it is Civic Nationalism(ish) that keeps the jugular exposed. Turn it off, and there’s us, and there’s them, even inside the gate.

Blogger Bezzle February 23, 2021 4:06 PM  

@76. RobertT February 23, 2021 12:52 PM
If we'd just elected Pat Buchanan.

Buchanan has been schmoozing Cabal-central Washington DC for over fifty years. He's a fake southerner (Irish Catholic with Jesuit schooling) who gate-kept the Reagan wing and the wild-rebel-yell factions during the 80s, then was repurposed into a poison peddler in the 90s (said event heralded by a William F. Buckley & SPLC kayfabe tag-team), all the better to highlight the urgent need for hate-speech legislation to quell the rampaging baseless and dangerousnesses.

He also fails Vox' "Does this ostensible 'conservative' have children?" test. (He married a White House staffer in 1971, and sired a cat with his potent seed.

~ ~ ~

(Does any search-engine crawl Vox Popoli comment threads? It would save a lot of time....)

Blogger OMGDwayne February 23, 2021 4:29 PM  

I wasn't able to listen to Rush in many years because he became an obvious sell-out. He could not bring himself to attack the original Big Lie that has spread the Leftist social pathology that is destroying civilization: The lie that Negros are superior to Whites and that victimhood confers moral superiority and that Whites are the oppressor class.

He flounced around the margins of the Big Lie, but he always kowtowed to the Leftist lies, fantasies and false assumptions that emanated from that original Big Lie; a lie that was invented by the (((Frankfort School))).

Rush really did nothing to truly fight back or advocate for Whites. He was a member of the Cuck Team in the final analysis.

His life and death are irrelevant to me.

It is time to win some major victories for Whites or all is lost. The last great victory for Whites was the immigration restriction act in the 1920s. Since then it's been one defeat after another by or (((worst enemies))). All we need is the will. Given that, victory for us is inevitable. But we have to snap out of our self-hatred, and become as incensed as we should be.

Blogger van helsing February 23, 2021 5:01 PM  

the old line is "don't speak ill of the dead". a more appropriate version is "don't speak untruths about the dead, and don't virtue snivel over them, either".

Blogger Nemesis The Warlock February 23, 2021 5:33 PM  

@98. J8ke D

If you don't live in Truth, you're not alive.

Blogger Gravy_Bear February 23, 2021 5:40 PM  

It's funny how the same cuckservatives that whine about Epstein escaping justice will turn a blind eye to the very real possibility that Rush was doing some very shady activities in a 3rd world country.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 23, 2021 5:56 PM  

Buchanan or Ross Perot. What could’ve been!

I hope we hear from the Perot kids, or grandkids going forward. He had 9 kids IIRC.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 23, 2021 6:01 PM  

Interesting that he never anointed any millennial replacements for him. All fellow boomers, like Hannity, Mark Steyn, Mark Levin. And all zio-cons. Did he have a reverse-mortgage too?

Blogger Crew February 23, 2021 6:05 PM  

But, but, but, Faux News did a lengthy special telling us what a wonderful conservative Rush was. Surely, Faux News doesn't lie?

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 23, 2021 6:08 PM  

Did not know that about Buchanan. Well, back to Ross Perot as the guy who could’ve stopped NAFTA. And he had 9 children. He left all 9 of them $11,111,111 specifically to donate the the Trump 2020 campaign. (He left all of the rest of his estate to his kids, too.) He was the real deal. We really missed out.

Blogger Bezzle February 23, 2021 6:36 PM  

@86. lckychrmsrr February 23, 2021 1:37 PM
I quit listening to Rush and Hannity back in the early 00's but more so out of annoyance at the repetitive navel gazing than any whiff of sulphur. I'm not claiming that Rush wasn't a gatekeeping ticket taker. Yet, until reading the posts here this week I had just assumed Rush was too boomer for his own good and not actually aligned with Sauron.

Everything is gate-kept, and increasingly thoroughly so since the mid-60s onward (with the Kennedy assassination being the first major gaslight of the television age). There's *always* somebody (usually several somebodies) on hand to reliably shout "SQUIRREL!" in your face the moment real dirt might be exposed.

It's a marvel that any history is saved at all. E.g., a single recording of Yuri Bezmenov is salted away for posterity. Or Doc Marquis' "America's Occult Holidays".

There might have been five people in the entire world who knew the exact phrases to search for in order to bring up (without it being buried in a sea of similar matches) an old Googlegroups DejeNews archive of an alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater discussion of Limbaugh running blocker for Slick Willy's lawyer-whack. Certainly all audio recordings have long since been purged (the transcript link in the OP that Vox lifted my post the other day is from 1996, and Limbaugh's site archives only date to 2003).

~ ~ ~

We are the peasants huddled in the hut near the end of "The Secret of Kells", learning from the last, precious copies of almost-destroyed knowledge.

Blogger JamesB.BKK February 23, 2021 6:47 PM  

A very smart boy giving the host homework assignments could also be the description of this exchange yes?

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 February 23, 2021 6:49 PM  

It's right there in the name:

Rush -- a spineless plant that squats by the banks of the stream of events, obscuring them from view
Limbaugh -- a portmanteau of limbo and bla bla. His blather limboed beneath the Establishment's speech code.

Blogger Lidia17 February 23, 2021 7:10 PM  

In all the recent discussion of Limbaugh I have seen, despite the general "MeToo"-ing out there, why have I not come across mention of his sex tourism?

Here's Rush in Operational Mode attacking a caller who brings up the affair, calling him a "glittering jewel of colossal ignorance". Snap!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGU31gaG4Hs

Did he need sex tourism because he was either a.)too cheap to hire decent escorts like Eliot Spitzer, or b.) he wanted to do stuff that may not have been so regulated by the laws of the US?

The anti-elite-pedo theme in the pro-Trump movement has been strong, so -yeah- this Medal of Freedom thing kinda doesn't smell so nice. Rush has always given me a creeper vibe.

Blogger JamesB.BKK February 23, 2021 7:23 PM  

That’s what fake elections are for.

Blogger Slick727 February 23, 2021 7:40 PM  

Lol, I remember he used to pronounce words weird like issue = isseeu

Blogger M In The 517 February 23, 2021 8:00 PM  

More classic Usenet tomfoolery (as archived in Google groups, which bought out Dejanews many moons ago):

https://groups.google.com/g/alt.genius.bill-palmer/c/2ynExnF_nfA

Blogger Craw February 23, 2021 8:21 PM  

Ick obsessing over mocking the dead. Christ was childless but keep going its so entertaining. Btw I don't care in the least about Rush. Yall just sound stupid

Blogger Josh February 23, 2021 8:29 PM  

‘Because...’, and the Biden-esque ‘I really mean it’.

Blogger machinephilosophy.com February 23, 2021 8:40 PM  

Hard to beat this test:

What does this person never talk about?

Blogger map February 23, 2021 10:23 PM  

Yeah, VD makes a good case that Rush was a ticket-taker. Not having children is the more general process of eliminating your progeny as a potential competitor for Cabal.

Elimination of competing bloodlines is a central feature of all of the "isms" that Cabal promotes.

Blogger Storm Rhode February 23, 2021 11:23 PM  

Dead men can't defend themselves. You can attack them, but it's like punching a retarded kid for cool points.

Blogger Storm Rhode February 23, 2021 11:47 PM  

Rush was a radio talk show guy. He wasn't the Ford foundation for your wildestest dreams. Trump is a business man. I think sometimes we project god emperor status on talented people way beyond their talent or inclination. Trump and Rush were into younger women and living large.

Blogger Bezzle February 24, 2021 3:17 AM  

@119. machinephilosophy.com February 23, 2021 8:40 PM
Hard to beat this test: What does this person never talk about?

That, right there. It's the damnedest easy thing to see, too, if know the taboo subjects ahead of time. And, should that taboo subject arise while you're critiquing some electroplated hero of the people, hoo boy will the lurking glowworms swarm to gaslight.

Speaking of which....


@121. Storm Rhode February 23, 2021 11:23 PM
Dead men can't defend themselves. You can attack them, but it's like punching a retarded kid for cool points.

I've been kicking that bloviating horse for a quarter-century, and I'll keep kicking long after it's dead just to make sure. Limbaugh will *permanently* wear the stink of Bill Clinton, whose crimes have barely begun to unspool in the public consciousness.

Blogger wgmeisheid February 24, 2021 6:51 AM  

J8ke D wrote:...I assume it is disconcerting and difficult to accept that people you used to look to for guidance and guardianship get exposed as frauds or controlled opposition ruins your world view - I’d rather know the truth, no matter how uncomfortable, than to live in a prison of lies and deceit. For others? ....
You cannot repent of that which you do not know is wrong. Embracing truth, no matter how painful, is the only way. I think it is important to remember how God says he disciplines his children (corrects them to get them on the right path). Hebrews 12:4-6 "You have not yet resisted to bloodshed, striving against sin. And you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks to you as to sons: “My son, do not despise the chastening of the Lord,
nor be discouraged when you are rebuked by Him; for whom the Lord loves He chastens, and scourges every son whom He receives.”

I consider the aphorism used by body builders a universal truth: "No pain, no gain."

Blogger Didas Kalos February 24, 2021 12:35 PM  

@craw. I'm a child of Christ.

Don't be so stoopid and cuckboomerish.

Blogger ObliviousSeeker February 24, 2021 1:24 PM  

Here's a better idea. Watch every documentary Jones created, all the truthers he gave a platform to over many decades, his long form interview with Aaron Russo, his store selling the most high level information books such as those published by Fritz Springmeier, and then you explain how his career proves he is a "ticket taker".

News flash: ticket takers don't go public saying the 9/11 Commission Report is a bullshit lie in the immediate aftermath of the attack then go on to produce documentaries exposing the Bush family connections to Saud, NORAD receiving stand down orders, and so on.

I see people making the identical comment you make with the same "conclusion", that Jones is a "shill". It's a meme that gets parroted by people with no familiarity Alex Jones's actual body of work. Do your homework and stop pontificating from a position of ignorance.

Blogger Bezzle February 24, 2021 3:29 PM  

@126. ObliviousSeeker February 24, 2021 1:24 PM
Here's a better idea. Watch every documentary Jones created, all the truthers he gave a platform to over many decades, his long form interview with Aaron Russo, his store selling the most high level information books such as those published by Fritz Springmeier, and then you explain how his career proves he is a "ticket taker".

--He successfully accomplished his mission of causing you to fritter your most valuable asset, your time, wallowing in voluminous limited-hangout.

Alex Jones is a glowie (and his kid is a fake).

Blogger map February 24, 2021 9:29 PM  

Bezzle wrote:--He successfully accomplished his mission of causing you to fritter your most valuable asset, your time, wallowing in voluminous limited-hangout.

Alex Jones is a glowie (and his kid is a fake).


It's interesting how Alex Jones gets lumped into the glowie accusation quite easily. What it tends to show is that it is not easy to properly curate or gatekeep conspiracy theories.

Conspiracy theorists do not believe in coincidences. Alex Jones attempting to gatekeep simply ends up with Jones becoming part of the conspiracy. Then, the analysis shifts toward why particular conspiracies are being trafficked on Jones' site.

Blogger Bezzle February 25, 2021 1:27 AM  

@128 map
It's interesting how Alex Jones gets lumped into the glowie accusation quite easily.

--Jones himself once admitted to having family in the agency, and it would explain a lot. (He's been the most voluminous fall-back propaganda peddler on the alt-net, since especially 9/11.)

And Isaac Kappy called him out.

If Jones, like Limbaugh, were behaving himself recently, that'd be because his control-file has changed hands. We'll see if he suddenly decides to retire, or flies his APC off a cliff, in the near future.

Blogger Lidia17 February 25, 2021 6:24 PM  

How is it that everyone seems to have forgotten the DR sex tourism?

Blogger Lidia17 February 25, 2021 6:36 PM  

His taste in decor, also, was rather particular.

Blogger ObliviousSeeker February 26, 2021 11:17 AM  

Bezzle wrote:@126. ObliviousSeeker February 24, 2021 1:24 PM

Here's a better idea. Watch every documentary Jones created, all the truthers he gave a platform to over many decades, his long form interview with Aaron Russo, his store selling the most high level information books such as those published by Fritz Springmeier, and then you explain how his career proves he is a "ticket taker".

--He successfully accomplished his mission of causing you to fritter your most valuable asset, your time, wallowing in voluminous limited-hangout.

Alex Jones is a glowie (and his kid is a fake).


You're admitting you haven't taken the time to watch any of Jones's documentaries, which is usually the first question I would ask anyone who thinks they're so super duper next-level that they "concluded" that he is a shill, or a dopey shock jock who sells supplements. Again, pontificating from a position of ignorance is not a good look.

Jones was on the ground in the late 90's filming and documenting illegal military drills and highway checkpoints under Clinton's newly implemented N.D.A.A. He went through a great deal of effort to expose the burgeoning police state apparatus before Bush was even in office. "Police State 2000" is the title. The amount of time and effort he spent debunking the 9/11 Commission Report and exposing the NeoCons amounted to many years and documentaries. His 2006 documentary "Endgame: Blueprint for Global Enslavement" is what I would consider his magnum opus. It is the singularly best, most thoroughly documented introduction* to the NWO conspiracy, its origins and its objectives.

What seems apparent here is you yourself are probably still treading in very shallow waters when it comes to your understanding of the nature and magnitude of the NWO conspiracy and all it entails.

Blogger Bezzle February 27, 2021 6:22 AM  

You're admitting you haven't taken the time...

I'll get right on beating some out of the clock.

"...to watch any of Jones's documentaries."

I've been watching that baboon howl since 1998. I couldn't care less if white hats potentially wrested his control-file away in the last few years. Like Rush, he was another howling gasbag who obeyed the order to avoid the Vince Whack. He took the ticket.

I've become convinced that InfoWars was created for the express purpose of floodfilling the alt-media with hundreds of false conspiracy theories, many of them grotesquely insulting inversions of real skulduggery that place under the regime of The Lying Bastard. (This of course became especially acute after 9/11.) Non-mainstream research acquired a rancid reputation largely due to him covering everything under layers of aliens, moon hoaxes, and heaving sleaze.

~ ~ ~

Refrain: And Isaac Kappy called him out.

Blogger ObliviousSeeker March 02, 2021 10:57 PM  

Bezzle wrote:Non-mainstream research acquired a rancid reputation largely due to him covering everything under layers of aliens, moon hoaxes, and heaving sleaze.

Jones never promulgated alien or moon hoaxes. That was Cooper, who later repudiated it and admitted he had been fed false information from superiors that he, admittedly, naively took as credible. He ultimately arrived at the conclusion that the alien agenda is an ongoing elaborate psy-op from top to bottom.

Now that I know you're a full on liar, I will dismiss you as the pompous swine that you are.

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