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Tuesday, February 23, 2021

The convergence of Tolkien

Christopher Tolkien, the longtime guardian of his father's literary works, is dead, alas:

We are now calling for papers for the Tolkien Society Summer Seminar, which will be held online on Saturday 3rd and Sunday 4th July 2021. The theme is Tolkien and Diversity.

Call for Papers

The Tolkien Society Seminar is a short academic conference of both researcher-led and non-academic presentations on a specific theme pertaining to Tolkien scholarship. The online setting of the 2020 seminar saw an increased interest with over 400 attendees from 37 countries. We are delighted to be running another online seminar that will be free for all.

While interest in the topic of diversity has steadily grown within Tolkien research, it is now receiving more critical attention than ever before. Spurred by recent interpretations of Tolkien’s creations and the cast list of the upcoming Amazon show The Lord of the Rings, it is crucial we discuss the theme of diversity in relation to Tolkien. How do adaptations of Tolkien’s works (from film and art to music) open a discourse on diversity within Tolkien’s works and his place within modern society? Beyond his secondary-world, diversity further encompasses Tolkien’s readership and how his texts exist within the primary world. Who is reading Tolkien? How is he understood around the globe? How may these new readings enrich current perspectives on Tolkien?

Representation is now more important than ever and Tolkien’s efforts to represent (or ignore) particular characteristics requires further examination. Additionally, how a character’s identity shapes and influences its place within Tolkien’s secondary-world still requires greater attention. This seminar aims to explore the many possible applications of “diversity” within Tolkien’s works, his adaptations, and his readership.

Papers may consider, but are not limited to:

  • Representation in Tolkien’s works (race, gender, sexuality, disability, class, religion, age etc.)
  • Tolkien’s approach to colonialism and post-colonialism
  • Adaptations of Tolkien’s works
  • Diversity and representation in Tolkien academia and readership
  • Identity within Tolkien’s works
  • Alterity in Tolkien’s works

Meanwhile, Amazon is methodically going about destroying the popular image of The Lord of the Rings:

“This is going to be very different from The Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings, which are on the road stories. Stories of companionship, stories that take place on journey, but this one is going to be set up like Game of Thrones. We are going to be following different characters in different locations who are going to converge on each other in the end.”

Buechler continues, “They aren’t going to have any Hobbits. There aren’t going to be any wizards. They are going to have, like they said, new characters and new lands. And that is where the big problem is. This is a giant blank canvas. This takes place over thousands of years and that giant blank canvas is going to be filled in with a couple of young, inexperienced showrunners. Does that sound a little bit familiar to you?”

“And those untested showrunners, who have admittedly an experienced writers room with writers from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul, are going to have to fill a lot of time with drama and relationship stuff. Modern relationship stuff. And let’s not even get into the dialogue, which you won’t be able to adapt because there really isn’t any like there is in Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.” Buechler states.

He then makes comparisons to Game of Thrones, “As you all know things were going great for Game of Thrones through Season 4 until Dan and Dave passed up the books and they couldn’t adapt George’s dialogue anymore. And they tried to interpret what George might have wanted. And George is alive. They could have asked him anything at any time and they still produced the biggest disaster in television history.”

Buechler then questions, “How do you think it’s going to go for [JD Payne] and [Patrick McKay] over there? Obviously, they don’t have J.R.R. Tolkien to talk to. They no longer have the greatest guardian of his father’s work and one of the greatest sons whose ever lived, Christopher Tolkien to talk to either.”

The YouTuber then points to a rumor, covered here on Bounding Into Comics, that there was a shift in the direction of the show following Christopher Tolkien’s death.

Buechler states, “Then, of course, there was the rumored big shift behind the scenes right after Christopher Tolkien’s death. He died in January 2020 and in March 2020 it was rumored from TheOneRing.net that a lot of the writers were fired and they rewrote Season 1 and they removed Tom Shippey, the Tolkien scholar.”

Next, Buechler warns, “And that brings us to the politicking. Are we going to get the nihilist, post-modern, intersectional Lord of the Rings. I think this is a good possibility considering everything we’ve seen from modern Hollywood. Then there’s the fact that we already have a nihilist, post-modern, Lord of the Rings, it was called Game of Thrones.”

Buechler then recaps many of his concerns about the show pointing to rumors of nudity, the hiring of an intimacy coordinator, the change in story structure, and the show being run by two former Bad Robot employees.

He then adds a report that Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos mandated Amazon create their own version of Game of Thrones. That report came from Variety and they claimed, “The mandate from Jeff Bezos is clear: Bring me “Game of Thrones.” That’s the word that has the creative community buzzing this week about a major strategy shift underway for Amazon Studios’ original series efforts.” 

I should probably wrap up the extended second volume of Arts of Dark and Light, shouldn't I.... 

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148 Comments:

Blogger Turk187 February 23, 2021 1:12 PM  

Its just going to be "The Watch" all over again. The only connection between this and the actual LOTR will be the title and a few place and character names. Fortunately we probably wont have to endure more than a season or two.

Blogger FacelessBro February 23, 2021 1:16 PM  

For the love of all that is good in this world, please do so Vox.

I can only hope I never see or hear anything to do with the monstrosity that will be the Amazon TV show.

Blogger Steve Canyon February 23, 2021 1:17 PM  

Seagulls.

They fly in, make a bunch of racket, crap all over everything, then leave for someplace to do it all over again.


Blogger Geir Balderson February 23, 2021 1:20 PM  

Diversity is Death! Who needs it and who wants it? It is a pox on the native cultures. Why can Swedes be Swedes? We do not need gorillas from the third world to ruin the development and civilization.

Blogger Glen Sprigg February 23, 2021 1:21 PM  

Well, that's going to leave some open space for people who write actual fantasy instead of pink slime...

"Tired of the diversity crap? Read a real book that doesn't insult you!"

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 23, 2021 1:21 PM  

If that summer seminar wasn't online it would probably have a ball pit.

But being online gives anons some possibilities of peeing in it, literally.

Blogger Blake February 23, 2021 1:22 PM  

Jeff Bezos: "Bring me *popular thing*"

Typical corporate MO. You would think from the many, many corpses of World of Warcraft-derivatives, vampire TV shows, and extended cinematic universes that feature only a single film, that corporations would learn "Bring me *popular thing* has never resulted in a popular thing.

Blogger Ron Winkleheimer February 23, 2021 1:23 PM  

It's going to be a disaster because they don't understand transcendence or beauty or honor or even friendship. They don't even understand that evil exists.

Blogger XarbotheGeek February 23, 2021 1:25 PM  

We knew this was coming yet it's confirmation grieves my soul.

Blogger Zastavnik Džemo February 23, 2021 1:26 PM  

Diversity is an evil hex word.
Everything it attacks rots.

Blogger Out of Nod February 23, 2021 1:34 PM  

If I were to ever come up with a work that important I would make sure that they are protected from the woke mob for all generations...hope your works are protected.

Blogger Derangement Syndrome February 23, 2021 1:35 PM  

Buy hard copies of LOTR now, soon the "original LOTR books" will have "Hobbits" that resemble the negritos of SE Asia.

Blogger Warunicorn February 23, 2021 1:37 PM  

I'm waiting for a version of "1984," where the Ministries are the good guys and Winston Smith is the bad guy at this point.

Blogger Silly but True February 23, 2021 1:39 PM  

I think a black hat presenter to the Tolkien Society could top kek the heck out of things with a presentation on “Tolkien and Diversity of Representation of Standard Racial Phenotypes Within the Races of Mordor.”

Blogger Bobo #117 February 23, 2021 1:41 PM  

Fuckin' orcs...

Blogger VFM 17 February 23, 2021 1:42 PM  

Working titles:

- The Soymarillion
- The Inclusive Fellowship of the Ring Minus Any non-Southrons
- The Spectrum of Towers
- Return of the Kang

Blogger bramley say Enoch woz right February 23, 2021 1:46 PM  

Wormtongues gonna wormtongue

Blogger Jon W February 23, 2021 1:53 PM  

Next there going to have going to have inter-species marriages between orcs and hobbits and claim Tolkien actually wanted it that way.

Blogger phil g February 23, 2021 1:53 PM  

It's all so tedious

Blogger basementhomebrewer February 23, 2021 1:53 PM  

Christopher did a good job with his Father's work until later in his life. The fact the Tolkein society converged immediately following his death shows he didn't do much to keep the infiltrators out. It's a lesson to learn for anyone trying to safe guard a family legacy. It's not enough to put your time into preserving their work. You need to ruthlessly police any organizations associated with the work, and find someone who is going to do the same when you pass on. If you do not have direct control of a group, speak out loudly and publicly against the people in it who are trying to use the work as a skin suit. Make it clear to the majority of the real fans of your family's work that those people/organizations do not represent the work.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 February 23, 2021 1:57 PM  

It didn't bode well when shortly after Christopher Tolkien's death, the YouTube channel "History of Middle-Earth" had to change their name to "History of the Ages" for copyright reasons.

They want to take over and own Tolkien's works and re-invent them into Satanic perversions. Tolkien himself was trying to create a mythology for England, so it makes sense that they would pervert that.

Blogger tdcommenter February 23, 2021 1:58 PM  

@16 I'm glad that I wasn't drinking anything.

How about the Non-binary Towers?

Blogger tdcommenter February 23, 2021 2:00 PM  

Like the SW prequels, the Hobbit movie trilogy may become appreciated for vaguely looking Tolkeinesque.

Blogger weka February 23, 2021 2:01 PM  

Can I second this. Finish Arts of Dark and Light. We need based authors of this time.

Tolkien's canon stopped when Christopher Tolkien died.

Blogger thesystemdisconnect February 23, 2021 2:10 PM  

Please, dear God, give Vox the gumption to finish the book, in Jesus name I pray, Amen.

Blogger Azimus February 23, 2021 2:11 PM  

Yes! Sea of Skulls please! Your magnum opus awaits you!

Blogger Glen Sprigg February 23, 2021 2:13 PM  

Turk187 wrote:Its just going to be "The Watch" all over again. The only connection between this and the actual LOTR will be the title and a few place and character names. Fortunately we probably wont have to endure more than a season or two.
Most of us won't have to even endure the trailer. God knows I won't give this 'show' a moment's consideration.

Do we get a prize for being called the 'racist-est' for not watching this crap?

Blogger RandyB February 23, 2021 2:14 PM  

There's nothing sudden here. This convergence has its roots in the hippies grabbing hold of Tolkien. Christopher's excellent stewardship included fending off the convergence for all these years.

Blogger Daniel February 23, 2021 2:16 PM  

It sounds like a very faithful visualization of the Scouring of the Shire, with only a slight and minor perspective shift, where Saruman the Many Coloured is the hero.

Blogger dienw February 23, 2021 2:18 PM  

I better go to a used book store and purchase the Tolkien trilogy before it is erased.

Blogger Fleakkeren February 23, 2021 2:19 PM  

Cultural betrayal and cultural heresy. Converge and destroy.

Blogger God Emperor Memes February 23, 2021 2:19 PM  

Senor Chang, in 'Advanced Dungeons & Dragons'

Blogger J8ke D February 23, 2021 2:21 PM  

As if we needed another piece of empirical data to highlight that the Left is completely and utterly incapable of creating anything that is good, beautiful or true. Even on accident.

The sheer fact that NOTHING is sacred just makes me furious.

I don’t want to fight fire with fire, or in my forthcoming statement, fight shit with shit, but maybe I need to ‘redux’ Sex In The City, or any Amy Schumer movie. Also add in any movies/TV shows the Littlest Chicken Hawk might vomit out.

Blogger J8ke D February 23, 2021 2:23 PM  

I am particularly excited for “The Soymarillion” - it can shrink my balls by osmosis.

Blogger Daniel February 23, 2021 2:24 PM  

A gay may come when the courage of men fails, when we forsake our friends. and break all bonds of fellowship, but it is not this gay.

Blogger megapotamus February 23, 2021 2:27 PM  

Orc Lives Matter!!

Blogger Grey Carter February 23, 2021 2:27 PM  

^^ This.

Blogger Constantin February 23, 2021 2:29 PM  

Well, time to buy hardback editions of all of Tolkien's works. Soon we won't have full versions of his works, instead annotated editions with dumb commentary about what a terrible worldview Tolkien had.

I think most fans knew this was coming, no use in getting angry about it, but still, the backlash this is gonna produce will be on a level far and above what Disney Star Wars did.

Blogger Jpc February 23, 2021 2:36 PM  

Damn right!

Blogger Meanoldbasterd February 23, 2021 2:36 PM  

Write it yourself, it'll probably be a best seller. As long as Winston remains an evil white male

Blogger Bucephalus February 23, 2021 2:36 PM  

Why don’t these people go drop dead.

Blogger yohee February 23, 2021 2:37 PM  

Was anyone expecting anything different?
Many of the Tolkien scholars, who will no doubt be consulted for the new series, are SJW's.
Had a discussion with one (male) on FB and he had a complete emotional collapse before my eyes.
Almost sad.
All because I rejected his received wisdom and tried to have an adult conversation with him.
Didn't renew my subscription to the scholarly journal I supported either, for all the words between the covers, it was rare to read anything of substance.
One of the most groundbreaking books on Tolkien studies, Guardians of the Fallen Kingdom, was dismissed with a snarky comment and the the wrist.
Pathetic.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd February 23, 2021 2:37 PM  

Soymarillion and Return of the Kang are the best rhetorical hammers of the bunch.

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 February 23, 2021 2:37 PM  

I don't know this could be a good thing. Imagine all the LOTR memes we can reuse.

#NOTALLORCS #ORCLIVESMATTER

Blogger My Shield Is Disgust February 23, 2021 2:37 PM  

This fake not-Tolkien show will be the most vile turd that ever flopped from the devil‘s butt onto the screen. It will be the most grabbled piece of moneychanging that ever excreted itself from the synagogue of satan.

But all their hand rubbing and dreidel spinning will not change one jot or tittle of Tolkien’s sacred texts. The Hobbit, The Lord of the Rings, The Silmarillion, and the rest of will be here forever and their wretched little TV show will be forgotten in a year.

Blogger Harry_the_Horrible February 23, 2021 2:38 PM  

Blank canvas?
Tolkien wrote the history of Middle Earth from the moment of its creation until the last Elves departed.
There is no blank canvas, just little details to bring into focus.

Blogger Wazdakka February 23, 2021 2:38 PM  

Need a way to spam the Tolkien diversity conference with orc posts

Blogger dienw February 23, 2021 2:40 PM  

Should we be astounded when Amazon removes Tolkien's LOTR Trilogy, even Hobbit from its sales listings?

Blogger Bigger Bunyip February 23, 2021 2:43 PM  

This is going to get very bad very quickly. Going to be a BC and AC version of Tolkien. Before Convergence and After Convergence.

Blogger Quadko February 23, 2021 2:43 PM  

That idea already has a title, and they should use and credit it properly. Thieveses.

Bored of the Rings, 1969, Beard & Kenny

Blogger Fox Bear February 23, 2021 2:44 PM  

From "The Lord of the Rings" to "The Ladies Don't Need No Rangz"

Blogger El Rojo February 23, 2021 2:48 PM  

"And George is alive. They could have asked him anything at any time and they still produced the biggest disaster in television history.”

ROTFL... It is well known that they were talking with GRRM - and went with the outlined ending HE gave them on day one when they first started the series...

Blogger J8ke D February 23, 2021 2:50 PM  

This pleases me much!

Rohan just wants to know WHICH gay it will be.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot February 23, 2021 2:50 PM  

Many of the Tolkien scholars, who will no doubt be consulted for the new series, are SJW's.

Confirmed by just glancing at this picture.

The list of speakers and their works is just further evidence of total convergence.

Blogger boogeyman February 23, 2021 2:53 PM  

Lord of the Rings ... without hobbits

A story about faith, courage, friendship, and all the other traditional Western virtues, but, you know, we shit on all those in our version with nudity and senseless violence and a rejection of the idea of good and evil.

Next up, a version of Mary Poppins, but Mary is a black lesbian activist and she fights the evil cis-white patriarchy by selling little white kids as slaves to brave and understanding Arab Muslims, so the kids can learn to check their privilege. After that, a version of the Secret of NIMH where the hyper intelligent rats (all voiced by people of color) manage to engineer a virulent plague that wipes out everyone of European heritage, saving not only themselves, but the rest of the world as well.

Finally, a comedy/biopic detailing the life and presidency of Donald Trump, staring Seth Rogan in the lead role with Amy Schumer as Ivanka; working title, Bad Orange Man Goes to Washington.

Blogger idprism February 23, 2021 2:55 PM  

Please.
Looking forward to investment opportunity for AoDaL production since I regretfully was unable to participate in Rebel's Run.

Blogger Silly but True February 23, 2021 2:56 PM  

Kangz of the Dead: "That line was broken."

Aragorn: "I be remade it! Be my dawg and regain your honor. Who bitch you be?”

Aragorn: "Who bitch you be?”

Aragorn: "We wuz kangz! Be my dawg, and I be holding your oaths fulfilled! WHO BITCH YOU BE!”

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot February 23, 2021 2:56 PM  

fill a lot of time with drama and relationship stuff. Modern relationship stuff.

Jackson's garbage movies, especially the craptastic endless Hobbit evisceration, already veered off in this direction, with the entire Arwen subplot and the egregious pantomime "family drama" of Denethor, Boromir, and Faramir. I doubt the new lot will handle it with any more subtlety and wit than Jackson and the hack Fran Walsh did.

Blogger George D. February 23, 2021 2:59 PM  

Another argument for the thesis that communism was not as bad as liberal democracy. The Soviets only banned Lord of the Rings, They didn't try to outright destroy it.

Blogger Silly but True February 23, 2021 3:04 PM  

Photo confirms at least 24 pedos and 31 lesbians.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 23, 2021 3:07 PM  

The thing that sucks most about these fantasy or medieval setting series is the post modern crap. Its the reason why GoT was unwatchable.

You can take the same cast, the same dynamic as a framework, and the same plot outlines and make a modern drama series or soap opera with them. It all sucks.

Blogger Orliffe February 23, 2021 3:09 PM  

"I should probably wrap up the extended second volume of Arts of Dark and Light, shouldn't I.... "

YES.

Blogger c0pperheaded February 23, 2021 3:09 PM  

Why couldn't they just create their own world? Fucking faggots. I mean, I know why they don't (can't), but still.

Blogger VFM 17 February 23, 2021 3:16 PM  

That works. Somewhere in there is the perfect "more than just 2, bigot" parody, all we have to do is flesh it out.

Blogger Unknown February 23, 2021 3:18 PM  

Say hello to the Lord of the Cucks trilogy:

Fellowship of the kink
The two cocks
The return of the gay

Fully endorsed by Charlie Kirk.

Blogger Matthew February 23, 2021 3:22 PM  

An excellent point.

Blogger M In The 517 February 23, 2021 3:22 PM  

Behold: the LOTR Christmas Special. Starring Elliott Page, John Legend and Chrissy Teigen, Lizzo, Megan Theeeeeeeeeeeee Stallion, Jessica Simpson (the Canadian one), and the animatronically-reincarnated Bea Arthur!

Blogger Paul M February 23, 2021 3:27 PM  

> And let’s not even get into the dialogue, which you won’t be able to adapt because there really isn’t any like there is in Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit.”

In fairness, Tolkien's dialogue is not his strong point. He writes dialogue like a lifelong university don who didn't talk to people much.

Blogger El Diestro February 23, 2021 3:31 PM  

https://youtu.be/CQGRYM9TIhs

All you have to do is look at the cast to know that this is going to be a disaster.

Blogger Ahărôwn February 23, 2021 3:36 PM  

I should probably wrap up the extended second volume of Arts of Dark and Light, shouldn't I....

Please do - I'm looking forward to it.

Blogger Bezzle February 23, 2021 3:36 PM  

@58. Crunchy Cachalot February 23, 2021 2:56 PM
Jackson's garbage movies, especially the craptastic endless Hobbit evisceration, already veered off in this direction.

If it weren't for Game of Thrones sucking in the medieval fantasy audience for a the better part of a decade, the LotR franchanse would probably be farther down the craphole than it already is.


@59. George D. February 23, 2021 2:59 PM
The Soviets only banned Lord of the Rings, They didn't try to outright destroy it.

The Bolsheviks are *here* now.

(Where's "here"? ...post your GPS coordinates, and I'll tell you.)

Blogger Barbarossa February 23, 2021 3:46 PM  

An intimacy coordinator? How...mechanical.

@16 Awesome.

@57 Nice, but it's "that line be broken."

Blogger Ostar February 23, 2021 4:10 PM  

The Silmarillion: "Yet the making of things is in my heart from my own making by thee; and the child of little understanding that makes a play of the deeds of his father may do so without thought of mockery, but because he is the son of his father."

These people accept Satan as their father, and make nothing but mockery.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 23, 2021 4:19 PM  

The Fellows in a Ring
The Two Toys

Blogger Angantyr February 23, 2021 4:19 PM  

Crunchy Cachalot wrote:fill a lot of time with drama and relationship stuff. Modern relationship stuff.

Jackson's garbage movies, especially the craptastic endless Hobbit evisceration, already veered off in this direction, with the entire Arwen subplot and the egregious pantomime "family drama" of Denethor, Boromir, and Faramir. I doubt the new lot will handle it with any more subtlety and wit than Jackson and the hack Fran Walsh did.


I detest Jackson. Mostly because he thought that he was a better story teller than Tolkien. Turns out he wasn't.

Blogger Beefus February 23, 2021 4:24 PM  

"The biggest disaster in television history."

For all of GoT flws thi is such a massive, ego driven overstatement. Sounds like gammas are still mad about that ending.

Blogger brbrophy February 23, 2021 4:26 PM  

Their trying to turn Lord of the Rings into a tranny porno.

Blogger Azimus February 23, 2021 4:28 PM  

Lets form the "Save Tolkien from the Worms Corporation" selling shares @ $100/pc to raise money for the Supreme Dark Lord or John Wright to buy the Tolkien IP and act as its Protector. Whats it worth? A billion? I say you have no problem at all finding 10 million people to buy a share. Set it up so no entity can own more than 100 shares or something. I'm sure the STFTW will reap handsome profits into perpetuity... and I would buy one share for myself, one for my wife, and one for each of four kids, no hesitation.

Blogger Canadian Warlord February 23, 2021 4:33 PM  

I think that Dungeons & Dragons has pretty much already used the gains to be made from a Tolkien-like world, with similar variety of intelligent creatures. It's the name recognition that is obviously central to the wreckers - but is that enough?

The variety of D&D storylines is guaranteed to be better than this upcoming 'revision' of Tolkien's original. And it's never really broken into the mainstream, one or two bad movies that flopped. Computer games is the one place the mythos has broken in - from "Bard's Take" onward.

Before Tolkien, elves were small mischevious creatures and not an elder race of tall beautiful people - for example. And did he invent orcs?

This whole idea will be shunned by the purists, and forgotten sooner than the remakes of "Robocop" and "Total Recall."

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont February 23, 2021 4:43 PM  

And for their next trick, Amazon will bring the Bible to Prime video with special length episodes covering the relationship between Tamar and her father-in-law Judah, and the obvious love between David and Jonathan.

There is nothing that lesser minds won't try to corrupt.

Blogger Reprobus February 23, 2021 4:46 PM  

"Who is reading LOTR?"

Lots of pro-Westman, Numenorian nationalists - VERY few goblins, orcs, and easterlings.

Blogger Tanjil Bren February 23, 2021 4:47 PM  

"I should probably wrap up the extended second volume of Arts of Dark and Light, shouldn't I...."

Yes, sir, you most definitely should.

Blogger Chicken Tender February 23, 2021 4:51 PM  

Being an UnReconstructed Mississippi native male and color challenged is damn hard work these days. Just keeping the lists updated is near impossible. Google purchased the state government and had them steal our beautiful 1894 flag and the same evil spirit that did that and steal a national election is after LOTR. Now, what am i gonna do about it?

Blogger Westhurst February 23, 2021 4:52 PM  

I believe Jon Snow has been lying dead at the Wall for a decade now... so no rush Vox.

Blogger BrentG February 23, 2021 4:53 PM  

Morgoth was actually the good guy. He was helping elves to transition to orcs.

Blogger Dom Verde February 23, 2021 4:57 PM  

I think real housewives of the shire has a chance of being huge!

Blogger Joe February 23, 2021 5:01 PM  

Another disaster, only good for cathartic youtube videos.

Blogger Stryker4570 February 23, 2021 5:03 PM  

These people defile everything they touch.

Blogger Joe February 23, 2021 5:09 PM  

The best reaction to it is to openly mock it. It's not Tolkien, and it's not Middle Earth. It's cannon fodder for the culture war.

Blogger Cwyn February 23, 2021 5:15 PM  

The orcs always take a dump on things that are pure, lovely and excellent. They should simply be ignored as orcs.

On the other hand, it's time for an anti-PC fantasy to counter every talking-point in the philosophy of the Pharisatanics. We are in the time where we can make the next big fantasy leap much like Tolkien did with LoTR using all the things that have roused themselves against us as well. And with our ancestral culture folks lore, as Tolkien did. He paved the way for us to do this with LoTR.

Blogger Joe February 23, 2021 5:16 PM  

"I'm waiting for a version of "1984," where the Ministries are the good guys and Winston Smith is the bad guy at this point."

That's coming. Lucifer is already a good guy on TV, and Disney is in the middle of ret-conning all of its villains to be princesses.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 23, 2021 5:36 PM  

I reread LOTR end to end last year, first time in probably 25 years.
Then watched the extended editions of the Jackson movies.
It's a shame that success of the first movie, based on his fairly close adherence to the books w pretty reasonable compromises for the screen, emboldened him to go further astray in TTT and ROTK.
Watching after reading showed there was more deviation than I remembered, and more than needed. Jackson's Denethor always struck me as very wrong. He's supposed to be proud and stern but noble leader who's weary and finally despairs, while Jackson's version makes him out simply corrupted so that Pippin entering his service really feels wrong.

Blogger James Dixon February 23, 2021 5:36 PM  

> I should probably wrap up the extended second volume of Arts of Dark and Light, shouldn't I....

You think?

Blogger Newscaper312 February 23, 2021 5:38 PM  

The general notes of ending GOT were ok, the ham-handed, rushed and in places just stupid execution nuked it.

Blogger Hugh Tamlin February 23, 2021 5:39 PM  

Bet you £10 "I am no man" becomes a heated debate pit with one side claiming Tolkien was a pioneer of feminist thought and the other spearing it as neo fascist patriarchal or something else bizarre

Blogger MJimmy February 23, 2021 5:54 PM  

Peter Jackson is a cockroach.

Blogger Pseudotsuga February 23, 2021 6:02 PM  

Those conference topics? That's not Tolkien scholarship.
That's just "Look at how woke I am!" posturing, pasted messily over Tolkien's works.
I detest the modern academy and its poison.

Blogger Blaidd February 23, 2021 6:33 PM  

It may be a long way off but I'm already looking forward to VFM producing AODAL films.

Blogger Gregory the Tall February 23, 2021 6:43 PM  

The innocence of Sauron - in defence of a widely misunderstood antihero.

Blogger JeRS February 23, 2021 6:51 PM  

I really love your books, but a Throne of Skulls is a bit of a large brick to carry around. Since I have been trying to ween myself off reading e-books of late, do you think there's any chance of you breaking your books off into to more digestable bites for us commuter readers?

Blogger Cloudbuster February 23, 2021 6:53 PM  

It's like watching the Orcs swarming over the city walls.

Blogger Jon D. February 23, 2021 6:54 PM  

What this shows more than anything is a need to revise our copyright laws so corporations can't perpetually hold and therefore ruin everything they touch.

Blogger Ranger February 23, 2021 6:58 PM  

I have read Lord of the Rings over 40 times (stopped counting after 30, but should be in that ballpark by now). Embarassing, I know. Still, nothing has been more influential in my life than Tolkien's works; the most important one was that his letters made me a Christian again after some relapsed years in my teens.

I did watch all Jackson movies; still think there's more good than bad in all of the LotR ones, and in the 1st Hobbit, even though all of them, except Fellowship, had terrible, terrible things.

And I won't watch the new series. No, not even for free. I might watch it if I'm paid a million dollars for it.

Blogger Robert Pinkerton February 23, 2021 6:59 PM  

SJWs seem determined to desecrate every altar at which we have worshipped.

Blogger Cloudbuster February 23, 2021 7:02 PM  

Warunicorn wrote:I'm waiting for a version of "1984," where the Ministries are the good guys and Winston Smith is the bad guy at this point.

It was called The Circle. I hear it was horrendous (not like I'd waste my time or money on it).

Blogger Nostromo February 23, 2021 7:20 PM  

Jesus wept. I can already state I won't watchba second of this woke crap. How many fat, black, lesbians can Hollywood employ? All of them my friend. All of them.

Blogger flyingtiger February 23, 2021 7:51 PM  

Will they have Rey and Poe in LOTRs?

Blogger FrankUnderwood February 23, 2021 7:55 PM  

Yes Vox, you should.

Blogger SacrificialLamb February 23, 2021 7:56 PM  

I can't bring myself to get upset about this. This Satanic inversion of LoTR will be very quickly forgotten by the public, and mostly ignored. They will fail at destroying the popular image of LoTR, because Phari-Satanic SJW projects pushing diversity propaganda, nihilism, and postmodernism are almost always poorly made crapfests, and are thus....forgettable.

I only read the Hobbit, many years ago. I should go and buy the LoTR books, while I still can.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella February 23, 2021 7:57 PM  

But Winston is a bad guy. He sold out his mother and sister. And he betrayed his lady love. He had contempt for the washerwoman and any other prole.

It's easy to make Winston a bad guy because he is a weak-willed, power-maddened drone of the party.




Blogger Ariadne Umbrella February 23, 2021 8:02 PM  

Disney, again, easy. The three fairies in the woods raising Sleeping Beauty? That's a pagan, lesbian throuple, easy. Or asexual sisters worshipping a pagan goddess in triplicate.

Maleficent has been covered, quite competently, by Angelina.

Cinderella has fan fic where Cinderella is a witch appealing to her familiars- the mice and birds, and petitioning a wise, female willow for all her material goods that dazzle the prince into blind love.

Frozen has been covered, here, repeatedly.



The little mermaid, Disney version, is already a disobedient, cross-species witch-bargainer. That just needs to go to 11 somehow.

The one with the redhead: she endangers her father and poisons her mother in order to remain a child. Hard to sell that as wholesome entertainment.

Blogger Brick Hardslab February 23, 2021 8:05 PM  

I'm watching a documentary on D&D art. They had to include a fart-sniffing segment on how wonderful it was that D&D art was so diverse now. They were specifically told not to draw white people. I'm betting we'll see anything but straight white men in The non-Lord of the Rings

Blogger Shane Bradman February 23, 2021 8:05 PM  

Try as they might, but JRR and Christopher are dead, and with them, the keys to the story. I own almost every book that was published before Christopher's death, and I will never purchase another. I pay no attention to any amount of media that's been associated with their story that they weren't personally involved with. It's done. The story is complete and can never be altered, try as they might.

Blogger Bezzle February 23, 2021 8:08 PM  

@75. Angantyr February 23, 2021 4:19 PM
I detest Jackson. Mostly because he thought that he was a better story teller than Tolkien. Turns out he wasn't.

Jackson's trilogy was far from perfect, but he knew enough to leave Tom Bombadil out of the script. Or try to compress a thousand pages into a crapulent ninety-minute cartoon. Tolkien was a phenomenal writer, but not all dialogue aged well, let alone lent itself to cinema. (1m40s...*cringe*)

All Hollywood blockbusters are Cabal money-laundering projects, to be sure, and these studios would have been perfectly happy churning out wall-to-wall shit-quality CGI from the outset*, but Jackson ensured that hundreds of craftsmen earned a good living making thousands of costumes, weapons, and suits of armor. He didn't have to do that. (The franchise was also largely responsible for lifting HEMA out of obscurity.)

And today, it is impossible to not envision The One Ring as being an allegory to "the ticket".

(*Jackson was more or less forced into directing "The Hobbit" after del Toro bailed. The inferior CGI was irritating, but that trilogy's major flaw was Martin Freeman's mouse-hobbit chimera shtick. Yeech.)

Blogger Angantyr February 23, 2021 8:12 PM  

MJimmy wrote:Peter Jackson is a cockroach.

Now, now, no need to drag cockroaches into this comparison - they are noble insects after all...

Blogger Reprobus February 23, 2021 8:34 PM  

Speak for yourself, that D&D movie with Jeremy Irons is a classic! In the sense that it's so terrible that it transcends into a high comedy, of course.

"I am Denethor..." kek

Blogger Boating Philosopher February 23, 2021 9:03 PM  

I still have a copy of the 3 books and the Hobbit that my Grandmother bought me for Christmas in '86. I bought a set for my daughter last year before these evil creatures set to "improving it". I await the insertion of super gay Elves, tranny Dwarfs, and Orc on Hobbit "action". :(

Blogger tuberman February 23, 2021 9:18 PM  

I just listened to most of tonight's Darkstream, then went out to Unauthorized. Wonderful work, keep it up... Wow, I love it. Thanks!

Blogger Ozymandius February 23, 2021 9:47 PM  

Whoopie Goldberg has been cast as Galadriel, RuPaul as a transgendered Gandalf, and only white males are to be cast as Orcs.

Blogger Canada78Bear February 23, 2021 9:51 PM  

Well, when you sell away the rights this is what happens.
Not sure how he kept it secure up until his death but I would have thought through a corp he could have kept it immutable.

Blogger captainofthegate February 23, 2021 9:53 PM  

If Lord of the Rings survived the Bakari's perversion, with Aragorn and Boromir wearing dresses, it can survive cuck-holded Bezos and his nihilistic Gamma swarm. It is one of the most read books in history. The ballast of Rings readers might swarm even the gates of Mordor and bring righteous order.

Blogger Emmanuel February 23, 2021 9:55 PM  

@16

That'd be funny and great satire if those weren't likely to be true titles at this point.

Blogger Storm Rhode February 23, 2021 10:01 PM  

Communism has an unparalleled body count that keeps growing. You have the power and freedom to resist the liberals so far. Watch the Chekist for perspective. Might still be on youtube.

Blogger cheddarman February 23, 2021 10:08 PM  

Yes Vox, please finish the second book!

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2021 10:42 PM  

"Diversity is Death!"

Nah, it's genocide.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine February 23, 2021 10:48 PM  

"Fuckin' orcs..."

The orcs are only the foot-soldiers. The liutenants are some abominable combination of the worst and most pathetic traits of Dwarf, Dragon, and whore. Sauron is pretty much still Sauron. Morgoth is still chained....

"Do we get a prize for being called the 'racist-est' for not watching this crap?"

No, the least awardable action is burning a witch.

Blogger caecus February 23, 2021 11:09 PM  

Archive Tolkien's works. If you haven't already, commence now. Go dark if you have to. These fuckers have matches and gasoline, and yes, they will burn it to the ground.

Blogger D. February 23, 2021 11:11 PM  

This is a little ot but fits in with converging. Driving today I came upon a public transport bus with a rainbow colors and PRIDE printed on its side. My first thought was: uh, uh faggot bus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl9bvuAV-Ao

Blogger Harambe February 24, 2021 1:09 AM  

You know how Morgoth created orcs by torturing and corrupting Elves? This series will be the orc to Tolkien's elf.

Blogger Laconic February 24, 2021 1:30 AM  

Gay orcs
Just what we have always wanted

Blogger FredFarkle February 24, 2021 1:40 AM  

now the jews got it!

Blogger damaris.tighe February 24, 2021 3:51 AM  

Grotesque.

Blogger xavier February 24, 2021 4:44 AM  

The scariest words in culture:
It's going to be different from.....

Blogger k johnson February 24, 2021 5:05 AM  

Yeah, modern adaptations, great. Let's see how much more we can dumb it down from the original, shall we?

Blogger CoffeeGroundsBear February 24, 2021 5:29 AM  

Just bought a leather bound edition of Tolkien Classicsfrom Easton Press

Blogger God Emperor Memes February 24, 2021 6:00 AM  

The Shrillmarillion

Blogger Silly but True February 24, 2021 8:57 AM  

And lo and behold C.S. Lewis & Tolkien knew:
https://insidethemagic.net/2021/02/tolkien-despised-walt-disney-al1/

Writing about Walt Disney in 1937 to JRR Tolkien:
“All the terrifying bits [of Snow White] were good, and the animals really most moving: and the use of shadows (of dwarfs and vultures) was real genius. What might not have come of it if this man [Walt Disney] had been educated–or even brought up in a decent society?”

Tolkien later wrote:
“ It might be advisable to let the Americans do what seems good to them — as long as it was possible…to veto anything from or influenced by the Disney studios (for all whose works I have a heartfelt loathing).”

They knew. Even nearly 90 years ago, the good men were fighting the Devilmouse.

Blogger teemac February 24, 2021 9:07 AM  

sympathy for the orc now!

Blogger Harambe February 24, 2021 9:36 AM  

Instead of 19 rings, we'll have 19 chrome Rims of power.

Blogger Canadian Warlord February 24, 2021 9:57 AM  

@Reprobus
>>>"Speak for yourself, that D&D movie with Jeremy Irons is a classic! In the sense that it's so terrible that it transcends into a high comedy, of course."
___________________
New Line Cinema, one year earlier than LOTR. Probably similar dollar per minute budget. Notice a difference???

Blogger yohee February 24, 2021 10:09 AM  

What's interesting is how when the SJW's move to corrupt Tolkien, they will really be paying homage to him.
One theme, that informs Tolkien is the idea of subcreation.
Only God can create ex nihilo, all other creation is subcreation, and most follow the moral order to be valid.
When Feanor creates the Silmarils and comes to see the Silmarils as his own, and locks them away, we see the beginning of the end.
When stolen, Feanor speaks an oath that will lead to massive suffering of the elves.
Morgoth would also corrupt and pervert the spirit of subcreation with his creation of orcs from corrupted elves.
Which brings us to the SJW's in Fantasy, and specifically those adapting Tolkien for Amazon, they lack the genius and creativity of Feanor, but they have the malicious spirit of Melkor in spades.
Just as Melkor turned elves into orcs, they will turn Tolkien into dross.
They will do this because the Secret Fire does not burn within them, therefore they can do nothing else but corrupt.

Blogger Macs February 24, 2021 11:20 AM  

Sounds to me like they are straying from the harmony and leaping forward with brash and arrogant noise like the sound of discordant trumpets. Melkor lives.

Blogger yohee February 24, 2021 12:29 PM  

@142 Well said!

Blogger tublecane February 24, 2021 3:33 PM  

Hobbits, wizards, rings, a firey eye, and Howard Shore music are what the (non-book reading) general public associate with Lord of the Rings. Aside from Satanic joy in iinversion, what is the point of making a Lord of the Rings show without these things?

One might say profit. And that’s obviously the main thing. But they could profit more with Hobbits and Wizards.

What is left, anyway? Numinoreans? Funny languages. New Zealand scenery?

Butt aex and ultraviolence, too. But I think they’d want to see Wizards and Hobbits doing that moreso.

Blogger Josh Randle February 24, 2021 11:05 PM  

Pleaaaaaaase finish ASOS, I have been waiting so long. Love your AODAL series!

Blogger Gabriel Santos February 25, 2021 1:30 AM  

The orcs do, and can do, nothing but destroy what better men built. The man knew what he was writing about.

Blogger Ranger February 25, 2021 3:16 AM  

Corrupted Numenor, even before Sauron, probably had many of those "Game of Thrones" things going on.

But Tolkien simply had no interest in them. Why? Because there's no need or joy in subcreating them; people who like that sort of thing can just look at human history, and it would even make them better educated.

Blogger k johnson February 26, 2021 6:20 AM  

IAMSpartacus0000 wrote:I don't know this could be a good thing. Imagine all the LOTR memes we can reuse.

#NOTALLORCS #ORCLIVESMATTER


Ha!

#SAYHISNAME #URUK-HAI

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