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Sunday, February 28, 2021

Trump CPAC speech

I have no interest whatsoever in anything CPAC-related, nor am I particularly interested in what Trump has to say in the wake of his failure to metaphorically cross the Rubicon. What separates the winners of history from the losers is acting at the moment of crisis, and as far as we can tell, President Trump failed to act. While it's now clear that something is going on behind the scenes in Washington DC, it is equally clear that whoever is calling the shots does not answer to Donald Trump, at least not anymore.

I'm not personally down on Donald Trump. I still think he was the greatest President since Andrew Jackson. I'd be happy to see him run again in 2024 if the election system is going to be secured between now and then. But, based on the imperfect information we presently possess, I think he would have done better to emulate Caesar than Cincinnatus.

Anyhow, feel free to discuss the speech here.

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187 Comments:

Blogger islanti February 28, 2021 8:00 PM  

I think the aftermath of January 6th shows us that the optics for Trump crossing the Rubicon would have been terrible and likely backfired tenfold.

Blogger Azimus February 28, 2021 8:01 PM  

I have been almost continually getting errors whenever I try to post - is this happening to anyone else? Probably 50% of the time... so if I double-post on occasion, this is the reason.

Blogger A.D. February 28, 2021 8:11 PM  

The election system has not been secured since the 50's.

Blogger Minnow February 28, 2021 8:14 PM  

Great pep talk, except for the vaccine stuff.

Blogger Autarky Bear February 28, 2021 8:14 PM  

I was let down on Jan 20th and now after this speech I have no faith in Trump. I do believe he led alot of people into waking up, but what is so clearly evident now is he either failed or never planned to cross the Rubicon. From the vaccine pushing, to the mask mandates, to all the stimulus packages, the mass transfers of wealth and even gun restrictions. He played everyone like fiddle in my opinion, even me. He was supposedly elected to drain the swamp only set up the perfect situation for the swamp to overflow and spread. We'll see what happens next. But it's obvious now that any further trust in a plan is either clear false hope, which admittedly is better then no hope, or blind senseless idolatry of Trump. I pray that whenever things fall apart now we are able to avoid as much war and bloodshed as possible, because there is nothing but debt, fear, and a loose sense of "American" Pride that is keeping The United States "United" at this point.

Blogger Cinco February 28, 2021 8:16 PM  

“Optics” the second to last refuge of the coward, coming only after “tone”.

Blogger Doktor Jeep February 28, 2021 8:17 PM  

Didn't hear it. CPAC is part of the problem. Trump would have done better to have his own, like a "TPAC" and send a message. I was too busy gardening and fixing my mowers to bother with it.
America is still screwed, so I'm sure he didn't say anything important. I could guess what he said?
The Great Karnak predicts a speech full of boomer civnattery and Kushnerian optics.
Yes he was indeed a good president because he put America first and had heart. But that was not enough. It's the to think beyond the Trump Horizon.

Blogger John February 28, 2021 8:23 PM  

I'd be happy to see him run again in 2024 if the election system is going to be secured between now and then

The man who can "secure" the "election system" will be the rightful President of America 3.0, and I doubt there will be any place for CivNat politicians in America 3.0 except in the One-Nation-Under-God™ because Immigrants-Are-Just-As-American-As-You™ Party.

Blogger Wayne February 28, 2021 8:24 PM  

After reading Patrick Byrne's inside account of the election aftermath, I don't think Trump had enough internal support much less the military to CTR. Not mention making a lot of bad decisions on who to trust with overturning the election results. I got the feeling while reading that this effort was doomed from the start based on who was leading the effort.

Blogger MEGAMUS Maximus February 28, 2021 8:26 PM  

Donald should stop listening to spoiled princess Ivanka and Jared.

If there's any consolation, the Biden admin is self-immolating and delegitimizing itself and American Empire overtures in spectacular fashion.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer February 28, 2021 8:26 PM  

,...nor am I particularly interested in what Trump has to say in the wake of his failure to metaphorically cross the Rubicon.....

Exactly. He still could (for a little while). Right now. But he wont. If he called for a voluntary militia in FL, ID and TX, he'd have shirley a brigade size, if not full divisions. But he wont because he expects us to accept anal covid probes (swirled 17 times) for 4 years in a "legitimate" election. Thanks, but no thanks.

Blogger CF Neal February 28, 2021 8:31 PM  

Returning from church, I caught the speech in progress. Nothing much engaged me enough to keep from grabbing a snack & puttering about. Neither disappointed nor satisfied.
The shortest month ends and the Ides of March approach.
His puzzling phraseology about the presidency & then who the next Republican president will be is some kind of tease. I like my coffee black, and my tea strong. Such simple pleasures reassure me of established traditions. Q + DJT & MAGA continue to stretch me toward full maturity.

MARANATHA!

Blogger Autarky Bear February 28, 2021 8:32 PM  

If Crossing the Rubicon means Trump had to worry about optics he didn't care enough about America to put his pride and image on the line to save it much less defend it. He is a showmen after all, why would we put faith in someone that continually let's you down and doesn't do what he claims he would. Because it's all a show. He is an actor playing his part.

Blogger DeadMeat February 28, 2021 8:34 PM  

islanti wrote:I think the aftermath of January 6th shows us that the optics for Trump crossing the Rubicon would have been terrible and likely backfired tenfold.

Yeah, good thing, cuz then we may have ended up with a Democrat scumbag for president and a continuation of everything being white supremacy and illegals being allowed in even more and....oh.

Blogger A.D. February 28, 2021 8:34 PM  

He was a geniusly-played ((shill)), and we all fell for it. America is dead and gone.

Blogger Dos Voltz February 28, 2021 8:40 PM  

I am thankful that Trump exposed the traitorous left, the grifting, backstabbing Republicans, and the DC swamp for all to see.

But he failed to fight at the most critical moment - he absolutely should have crossed the Rubicon long before January 6th.No action taken means that we are now a vassal state of China. We're going back to they way things used to be when Obama was in charge.

George Washington put down the Whiskey Rebellion with a strong show of force, and Trump should have done the same with the BLM/Antifa riots in the summer of 2020. I mean BLM and Antifa publicly proclaimed that they were seeking the overthrow of the American govt and then burnt down cities, raped and murdered. If that's not insurrection, then nothing is. He should have canned Wray the moment he said Antifa doesn't really exist, it's just an idea.

Democratic solutions no longer exist. Voting is meaningless.
The globalists have sunk Atlantis.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 28, 2021 8:40 PM  

Absolutely. He could not do anything after then and remotely pretend to still be operating under the Constitution. He would become the coup, instead of the counter-coup, and the middle including a lot of his supporters would actively turn against him. And most military would not go along. Hint SOF not nearly enough - logistics.

Any action would have had to be before the 6th, or better yet before the state electoral college votes 8n early December.

The alleged mega smoking gun slam dunk evidence, Frankfurt servers etc, was never produced, not even for the court of public opinion, by anyone in official capacity. Imagine an alt-unuverse where DoD gave mother of all briefings from the Pentagon around December 1.

So I lean toward them never having it, not to that degree. Instead you had the mishmash of monkey business high and low, w a lot of smoke and 9nly bits of fire here and there. Overturning a national election in multiple states was always going to be an uphill battle wo hard proof of an organized conspiracy, so the idea Trump willingly lost to set a trap was absurd, when everything hung on him having legitimate authority.
Further, even the trap scensrio. The notion of holding fire to after the inauguration muddied waters further so the crime "completed", nonsense.
The crime of the steal was the election night fraud, not the swearing in.

Trump's hand was never as strong as people wanted to believe.

Blogger DudeThatLovesProverbs February 28, 2021 8:41 PM  

Trump was clearing hiding information during his speech. But that being said, it also does indeed seem to be that whoever is pulling the strings in the background does not answer to him. He seemed more relaxed, and he certainly is more tan probably from all that golfing I imagine.

It was unfortunate that he seemed to cling to the idea of judeo-christian values (when it should be just Christian values) and civnattery still, but I suppose that's also not surprising. He seems to have an unwillingness, like many conservatives, to go beyond the boundaries of civility to truly protect what he claims to love. As a Chinese saying goes, "it is not whether he can do it, but whether he has the heart to carry it through." Maybe, it's all part of the plan. But as far as I can tell for now, he faltered at the moment of crisis.

Blogger Nils February 28, 2021 8:41 PM  

The little g.e Trump gave us a look at how the war really is, I know many young guys who are way more prepared because of it including me, if his only good deed was to by us 4 years then we should be damn grateful, the more we are on team God and Country the better we will be, the conservicucks being seen without pants on in all there perversion is just helping us cleave from the turdberg faster, Greatest president in a long long while for certain. God bless him and lets thank him for helping out, he coulda checked out to poland if he wanted to but didnt. I say he is an honorary not boomer.

Blogger Apollyon February 28, 2021 8:42 PM  

Cinco, I don't think I like your tone...

Blogger Tino February 28, 2021 8:45 PM  

While it is not a fact in evidence, it is in my humble opinion, that a deep threat to the US citizenry was in play, to force Trump to leave office. This is why Trump did not cross the Rubicon. I cannot prove it, but too much happened that suggested there was going to be a Trump-based arrest of the bastards, leading into Jan 20th, and then nothing happened. The Cabal does not play fair, and the sociopaths were not willing to relinquish power so easily. All we saw was surface. We do not, and cannot, see some of the deeper moves and countermoves. DIA and much of the military COULD NOT have been ignorant of both the proper outcome of the Election and the Steal. And it is interesting and telling that flights involving Biden still DO NOT transpond with AF1.

Blogger Kingly Gift February 28, 2021 8:46 PM  

I believe the enemy ruling class wants Trump to stick around, to keep Traditional Americans incapacitated by being duped into putting all our energy into a reality TV version of a leader instead of finding an actual leader.

Blogger DeadMeat February 28, 2021 8:47 PM  

I kept trying to hold out hope that Trump would do something, but yes, it looks like his image was greater than he was. I wish he would just let people know, now, whether or not there was a plan and if so, who blew it. I didn't follow Q, but I haven't heard of anything new on that point here, so is there a general consensus of what that actually was?

But, maybe this is how God teaches people not to rely on man. Trump was put on a pedestal by a lot of the right, but he's just a man. Only God can fix what's wrong in this nation, and that's assuming He wants to. I hope He does.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 28, 2021 8:48 PM  

He didn't screw us.
He didn't have the high powered backing inside the system Q claimed in the first place.
He wasn't all set to go and list his nerve last second. He always fighting an uphill battle, had some blindspots, and lost.
On January 6th he got played outright, failing to control his own crowd and stop infiltrators, whether Antifa or right wing hotheads, absolutely handing the Dems the larger 4GW victory, inspire of a few feel good videos. All organs of power in and out of government, even those somewhat neutral at least, like the military at least in theory, fully coalesced behind Biden. Colossal fuckup.
The only "plan" in the 6th was the last ditch attempt to hold Congress feet to the fire for one last attempt. Whether provoked or false flagged, the "rioter" crapped in that and let the Dems flip the script, turning a last Hail Mary into a crushing defeat.

Blogger Scott February 28, 2021 8:48 PM  

FO with your optics.

Blogger Didas Kalos February 28, 2021 8:49 PM  

@1 Islanti. Crossing the rubicon means taking control of all media. There would be no problem with optics. Acosta, Cooper, WaPost, NYT, etc. will be in jail or worse. Zuckerberg arrested as well as the druggie who supposedly runs twitter.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 28, 2021 8:51 PM  

Mods I will shut up now on looking backward.

Trump's best utility may be to attack GOPe at that primary level, push hard at state levels over election reform (belatedly), and annoint a spiritual successor further down the road.
Unfortunately 3rd parties in US history just don't ever work as insurgencies, they can only pick up the pieces after another party implodes. The basic math of the system drives it.

Blogger Fox Bear February 28, 2021 8:52 PM  

I heard he is still GOP...guess the swamp needs someone to wave the hand of that corpse after overplaying their hand

Blogger SecondComingOfBast February 28, 2021 8:56 PM  

Never a fan of Jackson. I thought for a while Trump was the greatest President since Washington. Now, I'll amend that to greatest since the very unfairly maligbed (by liberal "historians") Madison.

I sometimes wonder if Trump didn't purposely sabotage his chance at a second term. But then I remembered, Obama corrupted the military almost as badly as tbe Justice and State Departments. Not just the DOD, which I fully expect to have the first transgended SOD within tbe next two years. And it won't be because of a landmine, either.

Blogger VFM 17 February 28, 2021 8:58 PM  

I don't know why people are talking about trying again in 2024 when it was just conclusively shown that an election can be stolen no matter how bigly you win. Moreover, I'm having trouble seeing where a government that won't defend itself from illegitimate occupation has any business enforcing any lesser laws. I never pledged allegiance to the skinsuit of not-America.

Blogger Jack Ward February 28, 2021 9:00 PM  

I had wondered when Vox would make this post. I wish Trump had taken the Caesar approch, but, he did not. Yet. I wonder if we will ever know the truth of it all. Meanwhile, unless the Military does its duty and its duty is obvious right now, we, the armed people have had it fall into our laps. What we lack is a decent leader. I would nominate General Flynn, if he's willing. And, now, with what he's been through he should be angry enough. We will see. Meanwhile, the dems and deep state continue to screw the pooch. If it comes to China taking Taiwan and getting away with it, or Chinese troops welcomed onto our soil then we will sure as hell need a Flynn. Or, someone with the skill and soul to lead and fight.

Blogger Newscaper312 February 28, 2021 9:01 PM  

Is it possible Trump simply assumed he was going to win, with the EOs about giving him justification for tightening screws on DS after securing reelection, and was simply caught flatfooted?

Blogger MichaelJMaier February 28, 2021 9:05 PM  

Even after leaving office, he hired traitors to "defend" him in Congress vs. Impeach II, The Sequel. His ability to identify who is on his side is obviously deficient. I don't know what to think about the man but he obviously failed to plan well enough to follow through with his obvious election victory.

He had the evidence. Extra-legal means to stay in office would have been fine with the people if he'd shared it all.

What was the damned point of the 2018 electoral EO and the goings on in Frankfurt if he wasn't going to see it through?

Blogger Haus frau February 28, 2021 9:06 PM  

It was a lot of self-congratulatory pablum which is almost surreal considering he has to know the country is building up to some kind of civil war or general collapse.
I am willing to cut Trump a lot of slack for whatever ugliness went on behind the scenes. One man can't rule a country. He needed competent back up to advise and administer. Of course, there's the problem. How free was he to choose those people and how much of his choices were his own horrible judgement? His choice of turn coat after turn coast was mind numbing. He knew about the fraud but didn't mobilize his vast supporters to get involved in the election system. I don't remember him ever explicitly urging his people to infiltrate the system. Hell, even Ron Paul was more successful at breaking into the Republican party machinery on a ground level than Trump.
I am grateful that we had a 4 year reprieve to contrast with the ugly economic and cultural destruction Biden has brought on within only a month. Trump did a good enough job with what he had to make it a stark contrast rather than globalist business as usual like it would have been if Clinton followed Obama. If Trump is a shill then I don't know what the globalists got from him. They obviously preferred anyone but him.

Blogger LaMachinna February 28, 2021 9:07 PM  

I STILL stand by and support President Trump

Blogger Ominous Cowherd February 28, 2021 9:09 PM  

islanti wrote:I think the aftermath of January 6th shows us that the optics for Trump crossing the Rubicon would have been terrible and likely backfired tenfold.
Don't be an idiot. The winner writes the history.
While it's now clear that something is going on behind the scenes in Washington DC, it is equally clear that whoever is calling the shots does not answer to Donald Trump, at least not anymore.
It still seems likely to me that Trump answered to whoever was calling the shots, and that shot caller is now done with Trump. Trump was Q's psyop, not vise versa. Trump was able to get a lot done for us in spite of the Cabal faction that backed him.
Doktor Jeep wrote:The Great Karnak predicts a speech full of boomer civnattery and Kushnerian optics.
Yes he was indeed a good president because he put America first and had heart. But that was not enough.

Not enough indeed. If Trump had had a free hand, rather than being beholden to whatever Deep State faction put him there, he still wouldn't have done what we need, because he was focused on restoring the empire, not on ending it.

Blogger Timberdoodle February 28, 2021 9:11 PM  

Your comments are spot on....succinct and accurate. Nothing to add.

Blogger Markh February 28, 2021 9:13 PM  

Ya but think what would have happened to trump personally....

Blogger justaguy February 28, 2021 9:16 PM  

Why would anyone think that the law-abiding repubs would CTR? The Dems have already crossed so many times that they built a bridge-- think of all the illegal things that O did covered by his wingman.

Blogger FredFarkle February 28, 2021 9:16 PM  

Did he say he wants to help the blacketty blacks?

Blogger Troy Lee Messer February 28, 2021 9:17 PM  

Hey! Remember when Ross Perot ran for president a 2nd time? Me neither.

Blogger Gravy_Bear February 28, 2021 9:17 PM  

I watched his speech, just the same old Trump rhetoric. I'd still support him in 2024 but at the end of the day he's just a boomer that occasionally says funny things.

Blogger Ken Prescott February 28, 2021 9:19 PM  

One man can't save a nation that doesn't want to be saved.

Blogger Ska_Boss February 28, 2021 9:21 PM  

Didn't care enough to watch it. Trump failed to strike while the iron was hot. Now if he wants to talk about running again I will simply write him off as another cuckservative who enjoys losing gracefully, despite his ardent patriotism. He might as well enjoy the rest of his days playing golf while we descend into third world status.

Blogger Charlie February 28, 2021 9:24 PM  

China opened their country up on April 8, 2020. Their economy has grown while every other country (with the possible exception of Sweden) seems to be in a depression. I don't know why Trump didn't open the USA on April 9th, but I don't think the world would be in the mess it is today if he had. Big mistake on his part.

Blogger brbrophy February 28, 2021 9:26 PM  

Part of me wishes the USA would just fractionate already.

Blogger Charlie February 28, 2021 9:27 PM  

Replying to Minnow. I got so angry at the 27:00 mark when he started to talk about the vaccine, that I turned it off.

Blogger Dan in Georgia February 28, 2021 9:28 PM  

The floodlights that have kept the White House lit up at night for 50+ years, will shut off again at 11pm, like it has every night starting on January 20th. Watching the WH web-cam, you can see that nobody is in the residential level (upstairs), and all the lights are off. Supposedly, Javier Barden's doppelganger is living in the Blair House instead of the OEOB. Why? Joe Biden may be "president" but he still hasn't moved into the White House. Why not? When he travels, the plane he's in does not squawk "AF1". The Marine Guards do not salute him, and he and his VP were not allowed to place the wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. So, what's going on?

Do we have a divided government with Biden not the Commander in Chief of the military? Then who is? Would Trump have struck Iranian troops in Syria? He's done it before. Is he actually the de facto Commander in Chief? I have no idea, but it is really odd. We're definitely in uncharted waters.


The report on foreign interference in our elections was handed in on Trump's last day in office. The military has now had 5 weeks to digest it. It seems like they will act at some point, and either redo the election, or declare Trump the POTUS.

But we'll need to be under Martial Law for either to happen, unless we already are under Martial Law. We do live in really interesting times.

Blogger Lazarus February 28, 2021 9:29 PM  

Unless he thinks he can speak electoral reform into existence with his words, I don't see it happening without military oversight of some kind. The House, Administration, or the Judiciary just are not interested.

All checks, no balances

Blogger Stilicho February 28, 2021 9:31 PM  

@AD, around here it is customary for you lot to bring a fortune cookie when making a delivery

Blogger Garret Garland February 28, 2021 9:33 PM  

I don't see any reason to believe that the election process can be repaired or how they would be a viable solution for the future. Im not implying what that means because I don't want violence. Im only observing the obvious. If Trump was the man we thought he was, he would have had no qualms about crossing the Rubicon. No reason to ever trust him again.

Blogger RC February 28, 2021 9:38 PM  

He survived a five year battle with the evil Swamp, outnumbered a hundred to one inside the gates, surrounded. He is an impressive man, a communicator for his time, and was a tireless president. I am grateful for what he accomplished but the consequences of letting the fraud prevail will be catastrophic for the American nation. His heart may have tempered his will; he will regret leaving his legions in abeyance.

May God grant us the wisdom and strength that will be demanded.

Blogger Upstate Settler February 28, 2021 9:41 PM  

I am America, as are my children. It is not dead and gone

Blogger berb2000 February 28, 2021 9:47 PM  

At best a "long march through the institutions."

Blogger Noah B. February 28, 2021 9:51 PM  

I think the aftermath of January 6th shows us that the optics for Trump crossing the Rubicon would have been terrible and likely backfired tenfold.

Crossing the Rubicon would have required domination of the information battlespace, among other things.

Blogger Shane Bradman February 28, 2021 9:52 PM  

Bad mentality. Jan 6th didn't go far enough. If they successfully occupied the Capitol and imprisoned politicians, the optics would have been fantastic. "They tried to destroy democracy but we didn't let them" is what would be said. You watch too much media.

Blogger Stephen February 28, 2021 9:52 PM  

@7
Gardening?
Ah, code for filling one's trophy room with pillows.

Blogger P Glenrothes February 28, 2021 10:01 PM  

Trump was the best POTUS in my lifetime, however that is such a pathetically low threshold. Rule of law at the federal level is dead.

Blogger Arthur Isaac February 28, 2021 10:02 PM  

CivNat Boomer Alpha.

Blogger Sicilian switchblade February 28, 2021 10:03 PM  

Trump can't save us and biden can't steamroll us. Community, morals,building a future for our children. Becoming as antifragile as possible, so if your best friend or worst enemy occupies the highest public office it doesn't really matter.

I liked Trump, voted for him and hoped he would be able to right the wrong of the elections. too little too late.

If nothing else even normies now understand the news media is 85% lies and elections are a joke.

Blogger JM February 28, 2021 10:03 PM  

His speech was pretty good. The best part when he named names, and called out Liz Chaney, among others. And Cocaine Mitch (who was loudly booed)--although he completely let him off the hook by saying "At least we elected another Republican". And there you have it: he still thinks we're better with the likes of Cocaine Mitch than without.

I was really hoping that he'd call out our main betrayer, the traitor Mike Pence. But he didn't. He should have. He should have called him a "pussy" in the speech, like he did to his face.

All in all, Trump is still Trump. Still almost getting it, but not pushing quite far enough. It almost sounds like he's still getting advice from Kushner.

And who, exactly, is going to fix the election system?

We all know the answer. We're firmly in banana republic territory now.

Blogger NegrosBear February 28, 2021 10:07 PM  

Well its clear while he signaled he was going to cross his true intention was fishing at the Rubicon.

That great thing is that we could thank him for is destroying the Bushs and Clintons while exposing everything to light and, cleared the way for an actual leader with balls who ain't into fishing.

Question is who?

Blogger Jack Ward February 28, 2021 10:22 PM  

Should there be nothing done about the obvious fraud in the election and the way the court systems, particularly the scotus, has failed us, why would anyone want to vote for any R much less Trump?
I hope that something good happens, but, as more and more time goes on and nothing is done to rectify this, it looks like America as we knew it is no more. I strongly suspect that Russia will not wait forever for us to solve the problems and they may decide to 'help' us solve them. Putin has famously said as much, that He and Russia would not put up with full blown socialism in the US.

Blogger Crew February 28, 2021 10:24 PM  

Re the vaccine stuff. I wonder whether they took that route because they expect some pretty bad bioweapons to turn up soon and they need the technology to quickly develop novel non-vaccines and delivery mechanisms ...

Blogger MagaJapan February 28, 2021 10:29 PM  

I'm no expert but I believe Trump had a constitutional duty to "cross the Rubicon". He let a clearly fraudulent election stand. To my mind that is itself some kind of criminal act. I no longer really care what he does or says.

Blogger LeMage February 28, 2021 10:51 PM  

This is a movie.

Directed by Jesus.

Blogger A.D. February 28, 2021 10:58 PM  

Keep telling yourself that.

Blogger A.D. February 28, 2021 11:03 PM  

You mean, be spoke/acted/behaved on public like the best potus of your lifetime. But what he actually accomplished was virtually nothing. Because he never actually had any power. And he knew that going in.

Blogger MarioM February 28, 2021 11:06 PM  

You expected too much from a boomer NY Democrat.

Blogger teemac February 28, 2021 11:15 PM  

kushner to trump: there is no rubicon.

Blogger Unknown February 28, 2021 11:22 PM  

His optics are only distorted because he didn't effectively take out the media.

It only shows that political solutions might not be even in the real of possibility, if he can't do shit because of "optics" and can't incapacitate the mechanisms which distort the optics that neuter him because off all the scum in the DoJ and others that refused to follow his orders.

The time for caring about optics is far gone. People will be driven to absolute dispair and lose until they rise up and take care of business, because all the people who are supposed to fix shit cannot fix it because they can not destroy the Jewish MSM that controls the optics that dictate what they can do or not.

All this shit only signals to me that political solutions are not going to work if the West is to survive. But hey, at least Kushner's father is free now.

BTW Trump did do great things (such as exposing the Israel first uniparty), but it wasn't enough. Love and admire the man, but he didn't do enough, simple as.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer February 28, 2021 11:25 PM  

...I am America, as are my children. It is not dead and gone..

Amen Brother.

p. S Call it an echo chamber if you want to perjortivize it. but This is what the comment section is for I am not insane and I am not alone.

Blogger James Dixon February 28, 2021 11:26 PM  

> I pray that whenever things fall apart now we are able to avoid as much war and bloodshed as possible,

That went out the door when California didn't try to secede in 2017. At that point it was obvious they intended to rule over us, and nobody rules us. We may be governed, but not ruled.

War and bloodshed is almost certain going forward. It would take divine intervention to have anything else, and I think we used that up in 2016.

> because there is nothing but debt, fear, and a loose sense of "American" Pride that is keeping The United States "United" at this point.

There is nothing keeping us "United" at this point. It's only a question of how the divisions are going to play out.

> I don't think Trump had enough internal support much less the military to CTR.

That sounds right, yes.

> if his only good deed was to by us 4 years then we should be damn grateful,

That's all I ever expected. I hoped for eight, but...

> Only God can fix what's wrong in this nation

God will never deny free will. He cared enough for it to allow us to separate from him. We have to ask him to fix it, and too many Americans no longer even believe.

> I don't know why people are talking about trying again in 2024 when it was just conclusively shown that an election can be stolen no matter how bigly you win.

MPAI.

> Ya but think what would have happened to trump personally....

Would have? If you think arrest and prison are still off the table you're not paying attention.

> And who, exactly, is going to fix the election system?

As you said, nobody. We no longer have a legitimate federal government. The good news is that as people come out of their shock and realize this a consensus on the next course of action will form.

Blogger Unknown February 28, 2021 11:28 PM  

Markh

The logical conclusion of that kind of thinking is that nobody in politics will be able to fix the shit, because any politician that does will have too much to lose. Aka: there are no political solutions.

But hey, at least Israel still receives 5 billion US dollars per year, and all the secret military tech it wants (that they sell to China) as well as raw NSA data... Sorry for being an asshole, but my point is Trump did many great things, but not enough.

America lives under permanent zionist occupation government, and the Israel first uniparty controls both parties.

Even with clean elections, US politicians still have to sign loyalty oaths to Israel, so the ZOG must go, or America is just going to keep being the Jewish controlled whore of Babylon it currently is.

Blogger pyrrhus February 28, 2021 11:59 PM  

Trump just didn't have it in him, or he wouldn't have let parasites like Ivanka and Jared hang out at the White House....And the result will be Trump's erasure from history, while two millennia later, most educated people still know that Julius Caesar was a great man....

Blogger Autarky Bear March 01, 2021 12:06 AM  

Exactly. Voting is a complience test. It's all about if you vote not who you vote for. Because if you vote you choose to support the system. The election showed openly that Bankers and Corporate CEOs will always rule American politics and it's system in the end. The only way to escape that is to let it burn itself and build your own tribe. Maybe with time we'll have new countries form that hopefully have good moral nations that learned from the Empire that spawned them.

Blogger TiredPoorHungry March 01, 2021 12:06 AM  

I listened to the CPAC gang for an hour before the president got on. Seems like that had a CPAC poll that gave Trump good grades on a job well done. Like we want to start trusting polls and future elections.

They named a bunch of good guys who have come to the fore and would be great leaders if Trump didn't want to give it a go in 2024. I saw some wholesome black people outside with 47's on their red hats.

At no point did anyone make reference to Rand Paul as a likely choice for president.

I remember how all of us Ron Paulers were ready to go with Rand and all we had to do is get by the Big Bank gatekeeper Ted Cruz. Then all of a sudden it became the Trump Show. I admit he had me going. Not enough to accept a judeo/christian vaccination.

Blogger Azure Amaranthine March 01, 2021 12:19 AM  

"The election system has not been secured since the 50's."

I hope you mean 1850s, because it's closer t0 that. We know that the uniparty was cooperating to fix elections by the early 1880s if not earlier.

Blogger Unknown March 01, 2021 12:23 AM  

Trump did not lose this election it was clearly taken from him. Joe Biden does not justify 80 million votes.Trump certainly does. I've never seen anything like this in my lifetime. Maybe elections have been rigged for decades but not like this. So as for me I plan to continue to look at Donald Trump in a unique fashion. I don't know if history will correct the injustice of an obvious corrupt election on a grand scale or not but I will give credit to Donald Trump for working hard at campaigning in an attempt to keep his presidency Joe Biden as far as I'm concerned was awarded the presidency and has zero work ethic and he never has.

Blogger wahr01 March 01, 2021 12:34 AM  

Unknown wrote:His optics are only distorted because he didn't effectively take out the media.

It only shows that political solutions might not be even in the real of possibility



He didn't have a loyal AG.
The news were flat out lying to incite riots.
It was openly malicious and should have been prosecuted.

Blogger Reader March 01, 2021 12:37 AM  

In this Beast System, where truth is forbidden, political speeches are not worth the paper they're written on. Even when Trump was POTUS, I never listened to anything he had to say. I waited to see what he would actually do. Now, there is no reason to pay any attention at all to the powerless, defeated, and defrauded Trump. His only worth was using the power of the POTUS to fight the evil that has taken over America. He failed. We are on our own. So be it. My only hope is that enough Americans will come to this realization, start organizing, and fight - by any means necessary to win. I have no hope in politicians. They are the problem.

Blogger MNW March 01, 2021 12:37 AM  

Election processes. Everybstate has issues and this, in part needs to be handled a the local level. It was the local GOP that allow much of this nonsense to happen.

Furthermore, it is clear that SCOTUS and the lesser courts have abdicated any duty or responsibility to deal with it.

Blogger Markh March 01, 2021 12:40 AM  

Ya I agree completely. Though as far as Trump not doing enough I do think many people here expected way to much.
The metaphorical Rubicon crossing idea was always ridiculous , he can't count on the military brass at all.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel March 01, 2021 12:47 AM  

@1

I tend to agree, except it is not "optics". It is a realistic appraisal.

Let's be completely objective here. The left was caught off guard in 2016, and immediately started preparing to prevent that from happening again. They deployed fraud in Pennsylvania, George, Arizona and Florida in 2018. Pennsylvania was a rousing success for them with nobody questioning the 25% increase in vote count. They had to be obvious in Arizona, but nobody including McSally contested the mysterious dump. They missed in Florida with Gillum and Georgia with Abraham. You'll note they retuned Georgia for 2020.

Now, as far as Trump taking some extraordinary action, he couldn't do so without institutional support.

Even now after Biden has been signing leftist wet dream EO's for a month, the SCOTUS refuses to hear cases involving election fraud.

Cabinet members, including ones he fought for (DeVos) turned tail and ran, because some idiot wearing a Buffalo helmet is an insurrection, streets burning for weeks all summer because St. George of Fentanyl or something is legitimate civil discourse.

Dick Cheney's son that he never had and other scum joined in offering articles of impeachment that were baseless and moot. Seven Republicans joined the Democrats in arrogating judicial power and voting to convict.

Barr, supposedly this great prosecutor, promised a report by summer and intentionally dragged his feet. Durham will be telling us no irregularities occurred as soon as there's a new AG and he's looking for a new gig at some white shoe DC firm.

The corporate world, now completely converged work to sever communication (Facebook, Twitter) and supply (bank) lines.

The attack dogs of the left (Vance) are now engaging abuse of process.

We know now the career executive branch was working against Trump on Iran.

That leaves the military. Obama notoriously purged the upper ranks to install loyal Globalists. Could Trump have gotten their support? I doubt it.

Imagine the counterfactual, where Trump declared martial law. Congress would have impeached him, installed Pence as a figure head and then they would have sent in a commando unit to remove the "treasonous ex-President", and we would have been told he resisted and was shot, at which point the media would have told us how wonderfui it was that the military was willing to "preserve democracy".

We really need to understand just how successful the long march through the institutions has been. The judiciary, the regulatory superstate, big media and corporate America (witness Amazon and Coke just this week) are all thoroughly converged.

Without the institutional support, the Presidency (not the Vice Presidency, contra Mr. Garner) isn't worth a warm bucket of spit.

IF there was a plan, it was conceived, deployed and executed by the left, while we expected Trump to do everything.

Trump made it very clear that the global left not only hates us, but with every fiber of their being. How many of you will go right on not only using FB and Twitter, drinking Coke (and its subsidiaries like MInute Maid and Dasani) and ordering from Amazon.


I'm not sure what can be done, or how, but I know just electing a President isn't enough.

Blogger Theproductofafineeduction March 01, 2021 12:57 AM  

Go take your black pill elsewhere. You aren’t one of us and you aren’t welcome

Blogger Ross March 01, 2021 1:15 AM  

I have given up trying work out what is happening but something is still going on as noted by #48 Dan in Georgia.
If the military are going to move, maybe they are waiting until all the normal legal avenues are closed and given what SCOTUS did recently that time is either here or very close. I still have faith in General Flynn and have not forgotten his repeated comment on the chances of President Trump having a second term when he repeatedly said the chances were 10/10. I'm sure he was not banking on the judiciary to deliver theend result.

One interesting thing to come out of the speech is Trump has set out up PAC and he encouraged everyone to contribute to it, not to the RNC or GOP. He will end up with the bulk of the money and therefore have all the say. So he effectively has a defacto third party but with all the GOP infrastructure and avoids splitting the vote.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 March 01, 2021 1:18 AM  

Jesus didn't cross the Rubicon either, and look where that got him.

Trump can't come back from the dead, but he can return from the deposed.

I still have faith in the God Emperor, though the cock crow twice.

Blogger Jamie-R March 01, 2021 1:19 AM  

Trump isn't Andrew Jackson, but he's very aware of his time as a General and how important the Battle of New Orleans was to stopping a backdoor British attempt to destroy independence again. In my opinion, Trump is part of a small team, he gives counsel and they give it back, on how best to avoid the 'James Bond Syndrome' of collateral damage you see in his movies to win the day when dismantling this system of control. The Military has taken a lot of dark money and been legally set up to operate under his Presidency, they are stable and can't be broken down now, but it's not just the British/Euro Monarchs, their network hit the USA with the black riots, Covid and the manipulation of law at state level, chucking everything they could at his team, awaiting a societal implosion as they tried something dramatic. But they didn't. On Q drop 1925 he said that timelines change and to watch the budget. If a Space Force team using quantum computers and internet are active, they sent some stuff but the timeline may have changed.

Blogger Tamara Nana Hammer March 01, 2021 1:23 AM  

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Blogger Robert What? March 01, 2021 1:38 AM  

I don't see how Trump can possibly win in 2024. The voter fraud mechanisms that defeated him in 2020 will still be in place in 2024.

Blogger Jeff March 01, 2021 1:50 AM  

All talk and no action. Go away Trump and just leave us alone.

Blogger SciVo March 01, 2021 2:56 AM  

@MNW: Election processes.

Stop fooling yourself. Even the stopgaps are co-opted and corrupt. There is no voting our way out of forced clientage. Get that through your thick skull.

Blogger Beardy Bear March 01, 2021 3:02 AM  

Trump remains my God-Emperor. His campaigns are misguided, by my limited understanding. Even so, his legio stands back, and stands by.

Talk is cheap; when the call for battle rings, only then will my ears perk up again.

Blogger Georgiaboy61 March 01, 2021 3:10 AM  

Re: "nor am I particularly interested in what Trump has to say in the wake of his failure to metaphorically cross the Rubicon. What separates the winners of history from the losers is acting at the moment of crisis, and as far as we can tell, President Trump failed to act."

A number of analysts, including Brandon Smith,have theorized that Donald Trump was controlled opposition all along. He was installed as POTUS in order to accomplish a number of objectives. First, to lull back to sleep, "conservative" Americans - who seeing someone they take as one of their own in charge - will relax and let down their guard against enemy action, a.k.s. Democrat/Deep-state movement. Second, DJT was put in place to stage-manage the destruction of the USD and decoupling of it from the world economic system. When the house of cards known as the U.S. economy collapsed, the actual perpetrators were willing to go to great lengths to have someone else blamed for the problem, namely trad-Americans and free-market capitalism. Third, by winning the trust of Trad-Americans looking for that man on a white horse, DJT would forestall any alternative attempts to save the republic by other means.

Objectively-speaking, there are the following possibilities, vis-a-vis Mr. Trump and the swamp. He wanted to drain it, but was unable to do so. Possibility two is that he wanted to do so, and had the means to do so, but failed to act - perhaps due to a threat upon his life or the life of his family. Third, DJT was who not who he claimed to be, and had no intention of doing what he claimed he wanted to do. Possibility four is that he had the means and the power to drain it, but in the moment of truth, lacked the vision and/or moral courage to act.

One way or another, Trump has never meant anything to me. I didn't - and still do not - take an interest in him, nor did I follow his shows or stay at his casinos and resorts.Never read his books. Therefore, I was able to evaluate him as a political leader free of most of the baggage that encumbered so many folks inclined to like and vote for him in 2016 and 2020.

It has always concerned me, vis-a-vis his authenticity as a man of the people, and not a globalist oligarch, that DJT remained close to such deep-state stalwarts as the Clintons and George Soros. The fact alone that he still calls these people his "friends" after all of the havoc and mayhem they have caused to our country, is cause-enough alone for DJT to be treated with a healthy dose of skepticism.

Blogger Shimshon March 01, 2021 3:26 AM  

Perhaps President Trump should have brushed up on the Declaration of Independence, particularly the part where the signers pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor for the cause. They were not empty words.

Had he followed through on that kind of sentiment prior to January 6th, when things became set in stone, tens of outraged millions of Americans would have followed him. Even on January 6th itself, something similar would have happened. Who walks away from that to leave the American people he claims to love to the fate of Venezuela. Makes me wonder.

The pardon of Charles Kushner as one of his parting shots in particular is very disturbing. Kushner was born in 1956. A Boomer's Boomer, he might as well be the poster boy for all that is wrong with that g-g-generation. Is that what he meant when he said at his inauguration that he would "fight for you?"

As a two-term president, his accomplishments during his first term would have been an impressive first act. However, he did almost nothing of lasting import as a one-termer. Nearly his entire legacy will be nullified in short order. Even Carter left a longer lasting legacy.

Blogger joe camel March 01, 2021 3:35 AM  

I would think the problem of fraud would go back to Dewey, and FDR as 'most popular president evar'.

Blogger Unknown March 01, 2021 3:50 AM  

Trump was fun because he pissed off all the right people and exposed them to wider public, but to say he is the greatest president ever is nonsense. Greatest would be prepared for 2020 election fraud. Greatest would not surround himself with swamp creatures. Greatest would purge his party of his enemies and later purge the goverment too. Greatest would accomplish all he was set out to accomplish. Like them or hate them, Washington, Lincold, Jackson, Reagan or FDR did what they were set out to do. Trump was just a good try, but nothing more than that - problem is there will never be anyone like that in power in the US again, "they" will not allow it.

Blogger lowercaseb March 01, 2021 3:54 AM  

Jeff wrote:All talk and no action. Go away Trump and just leave us alone.

How 'bout you wet the bed somewhere else.

Blogger Arasaka March 01, 2021 4:59 AM  

If nothing else he spared the world a President HIllary. That counts for more than something in my book.

Blogger Quicksilver March 01, 2021 5:25 AM  

The momentum is gone. Whatever advantage Trump had with his movement in his first 4 years, will be properly nullified by the time presidential elections are up next. The Cathedral survived its stress test and will evolve to be stronger than before.

Blogger Jamie-R March 01, 2021 5:34 AM  

Something to add to the Space Force thoughts: Ivanka has put up 2 posts relating to this, one is at Jared's 40th, in the background is a portrait with 2 guys running at each other with futuristic swords under a stargate next to a reflective mirror, and then there were the kids building some toys and the kid is wearing London Bridge pajamas and is holding a hammer ie London Bridge is falling down, the code for the Queen's death. Another outside the box opinion is that the original Q posts sparked the creation of an enemy that is now using similar communications and so it nullified the end game they had planned in the first few days of those posts in Nov 2017 for the election, but the Americans are out in front and adjusting to the battlefield. Andrew Jackson said it best, "perfidious Albion." All of our lives have been changed by their moves around the world and continue to be. Old Hickory gave them some of what they deserve and it's a shame more don't understand they've been tricking lots of us pursuing the same thing the Barons originally wanted because they are us and we should know them better.

Blogger bramley bramley bramley March 01, 2021 5:50 AM  

Perhaps if he was the type of man who spent his spare time at a shooting range instead of a driving range, he would have been able to do what needed to be done. I think unfortunately he was just a NY office bod with a big mouth and here we are. The fat lady has been singing for so long she's lost her voice.

Blogger Straitsfan March 01, 2021 6:02 AM  

The idea that Trump was some kind of controlled opposition doesn't make sense to me. The globalists were doing fine before his election. Why put him in there when all he does is say and do things that energize the opposition? Just give the guy four more years if he's one of them. Whey did everyone in the establishment hate him so much if he was one of them? When he went after Hillary at the Alf Smith dinner four years ago some were saying it was planned sabotage. Why not just support Hillary, or any other candidate (s) that would best serve his interests? People had been talking about him for decades as a presidential candidate and he always refused. Doesn't sound like someone who's always wanted to be President and is part of the in crowd. Just my two cents for whatever it may be worth.

The guy failed to act, or the swamp was too deep that he couldn't succeed. Either way, as Vox once said, we have the deep state exposed as well as the depth of the corruption, the weakness of the GOP, and that's a good thing. And this all assumes that something isn't up which, from the anomalies I and others are seeing, may not be true.

I think there are a lot of people who say these things because they want things to be bad just so they can complain that things are bad.

Blogger BD March 01, 2021 6:27 AM  

People keep forgetting that this isn't just about the United States. If you live in the US, you're probably not aware of this, but outside of the US the media are in a 100% 24/7 anti-Trump spin no matter what he does.

Poland, that wonderful bastion of tradition and culture in Eastern Europe, is merely lagging behind the Western degeneracy. If you were to listen to how US foreign affairs are reported on here, you'd actually miss CNN. At least they put some effort into it. Our entire intellectual elite - journalists, politicians, celebrities, academia - they all just copy their homework. Sloppily at that.

The second Trump starts something without a sea change in thinking across the globe, they'll swoop in with the peacekeeping forces. Nobody outside of the US would realize the truth, aside from that bunch of conspiracy theorists, of course. The orange spectre of populism had to be stopped, after all.

Truth is painful, and we live in the age of cowards.

Blogger Attila is my bro March 01, 2021 6:36 AM  

Optics, schmoptics... Imagine the optics of public gallows.

Blogger GAHCindy March 01, 2021 6:40 AM  

Speech: boring, maybe a few cryptic hopeful hints, but largely irrelevant. Plan: still happening, maybe with difficulty. Trump: not "in charge", but fully in the know. That is what I think, and what I hope. I admit, though, that the weird things like White House lights, no AF1 call sign yet, and other little anomalies are the only things I have to go on. Sure *looks* bad on the surface. I just have a hard time believing all the weirdness doesn't add up to a very different story than Biden actually being in control.

Blogger Matt March 01, 2021 6:57 AM  

Interesting conversation. Just finished reading all of the above comments...and something, I think, is missing:

In yesterday's speach, Trump was calm, confident, and did not appear worried or despondent.

Yes, he spoke of the obvious fraud, the realities of having won the last 2 elections...but he also spoke of the great work that has been done, and our bright future.

Try and resolve, if you will, the black-pilling doomsday whimpering above and on every major media platform, with the calm confidence we see from Trump.

The dude's still acting like "The Great Worldwide Awakening" is in play, and his team is winning.

Either Trump is so delusional he should be tucked into bed alongside Resident Biden...or he knows some stuff we don't know, stuff that changes history, and will birth a new future.

FWIW

Blogger Pedro the Cat March 01, 2021 7:13 AM  

Trump is simply guilty of trying to fix a broken system with the people in the system itself. I did not listen to the CPAC speech because there is nothing from CPAC that I consider worth listening to. Conservatives do nothing of the kind, they conserve nothing, except in this case the "new" status quo. Disgusting.

Blogger Canada78Bear March 01, 2021 7:21 AM  

If one asserts that Q is real, then why would Trump alone be in charge?
No gears alone are in charge in a system, they all serve a function.

In the very least Trump broke how people saw the parties and gov't. The fiction isn't coming back.

Blogger xevious2030 March 01, 2021 7:23 AM  

“Shows us that the optics for Trump crossing the Rubicon would have been terrible”

No, it does not. It shows the optics of not crossing the Rubicon. He did not cross the Rubicon, and so he does not write history. Learn from that.

Blogger phil g March 01, 2021 7:24 AM  

Which would have been the deep state's motivation to stage that fake "insurrection" on the capital. If there was foreign intervention in our election I hope the military has all that evidence and are quietly acting on it. It would not be just be a question of election integrity but a national security concern. It would be an actual coup versus the fake gay ones the Dems and MSM keep promoting.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 01, 2021 7:31 AM  

One thing Trump hammered home in his speech was that he was apparently unaware of how corrupt the GOPe is and how willing they are to get rid of Trump even if the Democrats take over everything. He thought the Republicans wanted to win, and while that's the case for the voter base and about half the House Republicans, it's only true for a very few Senators. And he named those Senators and Reps who are clearly on the other side.

Identifying the enemies on your own side is absolutely essential for this to work. In that regard, Trump succeeded brilliantly.

Blogger TW9 March 01, 2021 7:38 AM  

Hotshots and pig whips are the best way to remove the foreign governmental leeches sucking D.C dry of its power.

Blogger JOE March 01, 2021 7:55 AM  

I've avoided, or at least tried to avoid, criticizing Trump. I simply don't know enough about what happened behind the scenes, and I respect him for the fact that he stood, seemingly alone, against the storm.

From what I can tell, Trump failed in a few important areas:

1- Trump failed to realize the breadth, depth, and the abject wickedness of the swamp. Government, Academia, Entertainment, Big Tech, Big Business all in league with each other. All willing to tear off the mask without fear. All willing to operate outside of the law in broad daylight. All willing to tell one lie on one day, and another the next. All willing to work with foreign interests against the good of the nation.

Finally, let's not leave out the biggest player, a large segment of the American people, who swallow down any lie, even if demonstrably false, like yummy candy. These Americans, who act more like cultists, have separated themselves from reason, truth, and reality.

2- Trump failed to realize soon enough, that he and the nation are at war. A war that is on the verge of being lost. That the government, economy, and society, at nearly every level, have been infiltrated and corrupted by the enemy. See (1).

Trump therefore acted without the requisite urgency and ruthlessness that was demanded by circumstances. he should not have acted like a "business as usual" President.

By January 6, I doubt he had enough support from anyone to cross the Rubicon without it being a suicide run. What part of government would have supported him? Would the Army or National Guard have obeyed orders? What would have Federal law enforcement done? He simply appeared to have no power or control over any of it.

All you need to do is look at the first month and a half of the "Biden" administration as a foil. They act with urgency. They act with decisiveness. They don't care what people think. The entire system came together to rule like some sort of demonic Transformer.

That was all in place, right under the feet of Trump. I don't know if he wouldn't do something about it, or simply couldn't. The question now though, is what is to be done about it?

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 01, 2021 8:18 AM  

The Pitchfork Rebel wrote:Imagine the counterfactual, where Trump declared martial law. Congress would have impeached him ...
The surviving few congresscritters would have fallen over themselves to suck up to him. The surviving news media would have sung his praises. By 2020 Trump could have been Caesar, but he never wanted to be Caesar.

Blogger Unknown March 01, 2021 8:18 AM  

Fully aggree. I feel the vaccine is bad yet why is the good guy pushing it.....

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 01, 2021 8:25 AM  

Ross wrote:I have given up trying work out what is happening but something is still going on as noted by #48 Dan in Georgia.
There is indeed something going on; the power structure has changed, is still settling into some new configuration. The future will be different than the past.
Ross wrote:If the military are going to move ...
I suspect that the military has moved, and is done moving. They may have been the Deep State faction that backed Trump, but they are still a Deep State Faction. They ran their populist scorched earth campaign against the other factions, got their concessions, and now they are closing ranks with the other factions against the populists. Troops in DC probably indicates that the military faction still doesn't trust the other factions.

Military in control? Probably. Trump in control? Probably not. They pulled his strings, not vice versa. He gets to retire now, with a DS faction protecting him from the worst of the SJW mob.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 01, 2021 8:32 AM  

Matt wrote:The dude's still acting like "The Great Worldwide Awakening" is in play, and his team is winning.
He always acted that way. That doesn't mean it was ever what we wanted it to mean.

0biden is likely to end the empire, but it will be a lot less pleasant that what DJT could have done, if he had been willing to be Caesar. Trump didn't want to be the last president and the first Caesar, so the shambling husk of Biden will be the last ``elected'' president.

Blogger Storm Rhode March 01, 2021 8:41 AM  

I think he does it for the applause and adoration. He likes to be liked.

Blogger Ronius_Maximus March 01, 2021 8:43 AM  

Agreed.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 01, 2021 8:44 AM  

Well, Blackpill or not, if the election system is not fixed, all this "see you in 2022 and 2024" is going to be cucky.
Thing is, I see over and over and over the conservatives acting surprised when they are doxxed, deplatformed, or cancelled, even from mediums and systems that have already done it to others and announced their intent to keep doing it.
Here's an election system that demonstrated fraud, admitted it in time magazine, and justified it in a way to imply they will do it again.
Until that system is fixed, I'm not going to even bother with listening to a damned speech. It's all just words. Unless Trump has something up his sleeve or knows of some real plan, and were way past two weeks, he's pied piping. If the convoy/flotilla crowd are this gullible they are no better than mindless SJWs.

Blogger justthinkin March 01, 2021 8:46 AM  

I tuned in to hear him say, "Ladies and gentlemen, even as I speak, our great military is in D.C. and has begun..."

Blogger Vanished friend March 01, 2021 8:55 AM  

Is there a green light to blackpill now? Trump, the very good friend of Epstein. Maxwell says Epstein had dirt on BOTH Clinton and Trump.

Blogger DeepThought March 01, 2021 9:14 AM  

It was too soft. He hit hard but not hard enough.

Blogger berb2000 March 01, 2021 9:21 AM  

@89
Tried to read the pdf...one major issue...says to never trust youtube and yet every video link they have for evidence is youtube. Seems kind of silly to me if they are expecting to be taken seriously.

Blogger DeepThought March 01, 2021 9:23 AM  

I like Trump and wish him well in 2024 but he is wholly owned by the Jews. His Civ Nat and Judeo-Christian crap is getting old.

Owen is right. Christianity has more in common with Islam than Judiasm.

Blogger Catchthefox March 01, 2021 9:34 AM  

I am glad to see that you returned to sanity eventually.
I hope you will consider debanning me, but if you don't, meh.
The idea of Trump being a false flag is as ridiculous as the idea of Trump being helped by white hats. There's nobody on our side in power, we managed to get a surprise candidate elected once because they weren't ready for him then he failed to act at the critical moment and was ousted. The good news is that the system has exposed itself as litteraly fake&gay and will not survive this outing.
What we do now is we build the alternative.

Blogger Parallax March 01, 2021 9:35 AM  

“stuff that changes history, and will birth a new future.”

Revelation.

Blogger Darren March 01, 2021 9:53 AM  

@Dan in Georgia your comment really confuses me -- because you're not wrong, there have been just sooo many weird things since January 20th.

But also, VD is not wrong; always a mistake to put your faith in a mere mortal man, instead of trusting and fearing God. So, at the very least 2015-2021 was a net gain for weak people who aim to grow stronger. As we must.

Blogger YATYASBear March 01, 2021 9:54 AM  

I'm with you on this one, Vox. I have no interest and did not have any care about trunQ's speech at CuckPAC. However, he has potential to run in 2022, does he not?

>Run for governor of FL
>congress then has republicans majority
>Vote trunQ as speaker of house
>Impeach biden/Kamala
>House of Rep is next in line

Blogger xevious2030 March 01, 2021 9:58 AM  

Not an, the, answer to the challenge question. Trump was screened and selected to fill a void, in the case or situation nationalists power was not subdued sufficiently, and there was a threat to a vacuum conducive to an outsider nationalist to presume and assume power. Script, over 40 years ago, so not responding to events or specific individuals, but eventual probable conditions and alternatives of such.

There are ROE, and there are SROE. Corona was supposed to be worse, were conditions correct for the formula to be more lethal, which is why there is observable mismatch between the observable impact of Corona, and the state assumption of powers/requirements. Under a more dangerous disease, the response would be proportional and "responsive" to a fast moving and accelerating crisis of massive Western (white) depopulation.

Again, ROE verses SROE, under the correct conditions, the response to the Jan 6, 2021 situation would have, to MPAI, appeared necessary and proportional rather than borderline absurd. And had Trump not highlighted the absurd level of vote fraud, it would have been entirely missed by MPAI.

On these counts, Trump deviated from script, by SROE not privy to Prometheans, per the Prometheans backstabbing an agreement, setting alternate occurrences into action, They triggered protocols. The result is that it should apparent that the Prometheans do not write their own script. That these people are idiots. And that, as such, it highlights an apparent and persistent ready weakness. Their ability to rule is facilitated by “not them,” and their reliance on narrative is a tool that can be utilized, by throwing the tracks out of synch, to render them ridiculous and vulnerable to reality. That is how you get rid of CivNat, and make way for the nationalists. There is a vacuum, just as there was for 2008. Alphas/Sigmas required, or there’s no point getting out of bed. Revolutionary Deltas aren’t leaders of this nature.

Blogger map March 01, 2021 10:08 AM  

The notion of Trump as a controlled opposition makes no sense. Why would he be needed? With either Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton, the Deep State would have had everything it wanted. Trump was unnecessary.

Furthermore, what actions was Trump preventing? What was he doing to lull people into complacency?

Finally, what does Trump get out of it? His reward is litigation forever attacking him and his family. Even if there was a deal, what deal could he possibly enforce against Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer if, at any point, they decide to play the larp for real?

Blogger Crush Limbraw March 01, 2021 10:17 AM  

Trump was trumped by those who control the political infrastructure - plain and simple!
We've had well over 100 years of steady and relentless infestation of our house by termites, to the point that when we call for pest control, more termite planters usually respond.
The question is - why?
Answer - those whose responsibilities include maintaining culture and education have slept in our comfortable homes and churches - while gradually losing them all to our 'friendly' infestees.
We're too freaking lazy and stupid to do the hard work necessary - as clearly outlined by our instruction book. Read Ephesians 6 sometimes - all of it. Then read Hebrews 5 and 6 - especially 5:11 through 6:2.
Our purpose here on earth is not to have Jesus be our Divine Butler - we are His bond servants - not Trump's or any other earthly messiah's.
When we become serious about our mission as outlined in Matt. 28:28-20, the blessings of God will abound according to our faith and diligence - and most of all, His grace.
That is the only purpose of my life and yours - which I have discovered after wandering in the desert of life most of my days.
Better late than never - read the rest at you know where - and get to work!

Blogger Crew March 01, 2021 10:22 AM  

Perhaps Trump never was a Caesar ... but just another decoy.

Blogger Blondie Callahan March 01, 2021 10:31 AM  

This talk of Trump being the controlled opposition is black pilling. If he was then why would the commies and the msm act the way they did. They did not treat Palin and McCain with the same level of LIES as they did with Trump. They did not treat Dubya the same either. They lied but no where near the same levels of contempt and propaganda. The commies kept the states they controlled locked down to kill the economy. They literally let people murder and torch cities all to make Trump look bad, no way in hell Trump was the controlled opposition. One other point, why did the GOP spend 4 years screwing him over?

Trump did what he could do without being taken out imo. He did not have it in him to start Civil War 2.0, the Democrats did and they won, for now. I agree that he made mistakes and picked a lot of DS, I also agree that his daughter should have been left to run the hotels or what ever she did before Trump became POTUS. He is still just a man and I believe he did everything in his power to bring the USA back where it should be.

With that Trump is still the best President in my 50 years.

Blogger Tallen March 01, 2021 10:53 AM  

Unless the Space Force...
What if the Space Force...


I work with Space Force "Guardians" on a daily basis at various levels. They aren't interested in anything on the Earth except budgets and the infrastructure that allows them to build, launch, and communicate with their vehicles in orbit. It got to the point where the AF started putting money down on Earth-facing orbital sensors after creation of the USSF before the USSF decided that was in their bailiwick after all. Wouldn't want to miss out on that sweet funding.

Blogger rcocean March 01, 2021 10:53 AM  

The idea that ONE MAN, even if he's President, can take on the whole Establishment and win is absurd. But lets spend our energy attacking Trump. I mean what a coward, he only had to fight the media, the Judges, the Democrat party, Google/Twitter/Facebook, McConnell, Bush, and Paul Ryan/House RINOs. But he still isn't saying what we want. What a wimp!

BTW,CPAC never changes. Refused to talk about electoral reform and immigration. Same old dumb nonsense about "Freedom" "Liberty" and "Smaller Government". Most of them would support Mitt Romney if they could get away with it.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 01, 2021 10:59 AM  

islanti wrote:I think the aftermath of January 6th shows us that the optics for Trump crossing the Rubicon would have been terrible and likely backfired tenfold.

Just imagine the terrible "optics" Caesar got for crossing the Rubicon. Surely he's one of the most reviled figures in history because of that right?

"optics" is the first and last refuge of the cuckservative coward.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 01, 2021 11:09 AM  

BD wrote:
Poland, that wonderful bastion of tradition and culture in Eastern Europe, is merely lagging behind the Western degeneracy. If you were to listen to how US foreign affairs are reported on here, you'd actually miss CNN. At least they put some effort into it. Our entire intellectual elite - journalists, politicians, celebrities, academia - they all just copy their homework. Sloppily at that.

The second Trump starts something without a sea change in thinking across the globe, they'll swoop in with the peacekeeping forces. Nobody outside of the US would realize the truth, aside from that bunch of conspiracy theorists, of course. The orange spectre of populism had to be stopped, after all.

Truth is painful, and we live in the age of cowards.


The root of the problem is democracy. In any meritocratic system there will ALWAYS be more losers than winners. In a democracy those losers can use their collective voting power to undermine the system that they feel mistreated them which then destroys the meritocracy and causes eventual collapse.

Western civilization wasn't built on democracy despite all the historical revisionism. The founding fathers of the US setup the system to only allow white landowners of good moral character a say in the system. It was built on Anglo Eugenics, Christianity, strong family values, colonialism, recovery from the plagues, and constant pressure from wars which served to make the people anti-fragile. Notice how now those that want to destroy the west are trying their best to undermine that history and culture through inversion and revisionism.

Blogger Anon March 01, 2021 11:14 AM  

Could it be he’s letting them crash and burn what’s left of the Republic in order to make taking a throne palatable to all but the most fanatical in this country? Not a matter of looking good for muh optics but making it so that he could feed every man in Congress to lions and nobody would bat an eye? Roughly 3/4 of the country would support President Trump but before Biden began I’m not sure that many would have supported King Trump.
Mind you, that possibility is unlikely and I’m not banking on it. Nothing lately seems like evil being secure in its victory is all.

Blogger Some Guy March 01, 2021 11:16 AM  

Vox, we know that something weird is going on. How should we treat Trump in the meantime? I know all the good things he did, but ultimately, if he knowingly allowed enemies to take over the US government on behalf of a foreign government, then he violated his oath of office and is a traitor. Am I wrong in thinking this?

Blogger Zander Stander March 01, 2021 11:31 AM  

Trump was only ever as much the president as Joe currently is.

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 01, 2021 11:37 AM  

Trump was the last best hope to try and fix the system from within using its own infrastructure. As he even admitted, he didn't realize the breadth or depth of the problem until it was way too late.

RadixMalorum seems to have hit the nail on the head: this notion that "democracy" is what everyone here is willing to fight for, when in reality, it's the worst contributor to our problem. 50% + 1 is NEVER going to be the absolute solution to our problem here, much less around the world.

Blogger Crew March 01, 2021 11:38 AM  

Perhaps Trump discovered during his presidency that the risk to his family was enormous ...

Blogger Damelon Brinn March 01, 2021 11:46 AM  

The idea that Trump was some kind of controlled opposition doesn't make sense to me.

It shouldn't, because it's dumb. But some people need everything to be a movie-ready drama. So if Trump isn't the mastermind head of a secret organization with a flawless Plan to defeat the Swamp, he must be a tool of the unstoppable forces of darkness on the other side. He can't just be what he appears to be: a patriot with some blind spots who tried to take on the establishment and did his best within what he considered to be the acceptable limits, and was ultimately defeated because every institution with power conspired against him. It's not called names like Leviathan for nothing.

Blogger Jacksonian Grouch March 01, 2021 11:56 AM  

@VD - "... I think he would have done better to emulate Caesar than Cincinnatus..."

'nuff said

Blogger Owen March 01, 2021 12:05 PM  

Good points. If anything, the Trump presidency should show us the limitations of relying upon a great leader- and he was great in many respects- to save us. We need to be responsible for our own lives and families, communities, and religious groups, in that order. Far more effective than voting for president is getting involved in your local school boards and elections. I like Trump in many ways but he is only one man and of course he is flawed. Ultimately, he was not able to prevail.

Blogger Owen March 01, 2021 12:50 PM  

Just so.... as others have said, Trump seemed not to be able to tell friends from enemies. Else he would not have fired Bannon, and he would have pardoned Assange.

Blogger The Last Roman March 01, 2021 1:39 PM  

Bad news: the Republic, mortally wounded in the 1860s, is now dead. Our enemies act outside of the Constitution.
Good news: the Republic is dead. We can now act outside of the Constitution.

Blogger Elder Son March 01, 2021 1:47 PM  

It's like mass psychotherapy. Anyhow, maybe God isn't finished with you all yet? Maybe you didn't Trump enough? Maybe you didn't cheerleader enough? Pom-Pom enough? Pep Rally enough? Swoon enough? Didn't have enough sex with the quarterback enough?

80 Million give or take Americans had their votes stolen from them, in their faces like so much spit... and they psychotherapy. It's the same old Boomer song. Swooning and dripping with hope that in 4 more years God will raise up your champion, again. Or, maybe we'll all get what we justly deserve? Because we didn't, and won't. Maybe because we didn't hate evil and wickedness, enough?

Blogger xevious2030 March 01, 2021 2:10 PM  

“Trump was the last best hope to try and fix the system from within”
That went out after the 2008 presidential election. That was last chance option, in those regards. Things have been beyond that for a while. Avoiding extinction has recently been a big part of the game. Now moving to beyond simply being capable of existing/non-extermination.

“How should we treat Trump in the meantime?”
As someone who saved our asses from a quick and bad end. As a great man, and a great President, that gave us a chance for a future. Someone to fondly remember as we work with/for non-CivNat leadership, an American nationalist leadership, that does not submit to the constraints of a false system.

"and he would have pardoned Assange"
Yep, it says loads. Not influenced by the ghost in the shell, on that.

Blogger Newscaper312 March 01, 2021 2:42 PM  

@Ominous
"He gets to retire now, with a DS faction protecting him from the worst of the SJW mob."

Yes. "Lock her up" was great red meat for rallies, but he never went there once in office. Going too hard after opponents at the top led to Caesar, and not making the stakes of losing too high is an unwritten rule of American presidential politics. Trump observed that, so I thought claims Trump *had* to CTR because they'd never stop going after him weren't quite right.

Blogger James Dixon March 01, 2021 3:25 PM  

> If nothing else he spared the world a President HIllary. That counts for more than something in my book.

That was all I ever expected. Everything beyond that was gravy.

> Good news: the Republic is dead. We can now act outside of the Constitution.

With the usual caveat: Don't get caught.

Blogger Oswald March 01, 2021 3:43 PM  

Im not so sure it is over. This could still be part of a long term plan. We are seeing evil after evil proposed. Letting Biden in may have been necessary to root out or identify the last imbedded traitors. The facts seem to indicate some kind of internal cold war going on in the Government and the Military between various factions. Could two different factions each hold the nuclear codes. Is that why the Dems were worried about the codes?

Blogger Didas Kalos March 01, 2021 3:48 PM  

@deep (shallow) thought. Please do tell one thing Islam has with Christianity. They don't even worship the same God. Trading one ditch for the other is still in the ditch.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 March 01, 2021 4:19 PM  

Oh, totally, Matt. Trump has it locked. I just found out that I was wrong about COVID19 being an accidental release. It was accidentally released into Wuhan but was supposed to go to the USA first so the CCP could credibly blame it on US biowarfare using the Wuhan military games as a vector. A whistleblower has been saying this for like a year, so that was Pearl Harbor, and we've been at war. Biden's contrast-game is just the military convincing feckless civilians to vote the right way, or else get what they asked for good and hard.

Gnews has the scoop; I should've combed more diligently through their reams of anti-CCP propaganda.

Uncovering CCP’s Scheme to Launch Biological Warfare on the World

I'm still flabbergasted at the realization that the world contains not one but two suicidal nuclear major powers. Thank God Putin is sane, but how must he feel refereeing this clown fight?

Blogger Nemesis The Warlock March 01, 2021 4:30 PM  

@144. Crew wrote:Perhaps Trump discovered during his presidency that the risk to his family was enormous ...

If he thought that backing down and coming to an arrangement with them would save him and his family, I expect that we are all going to discover just how seriously mistaken he was. TGE was hobbled by being a Boomer and no Boomer has ever understood that you absolutely must not ever compromise or bargain with Evil.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 01, 2021 4:33 PM  

Newscaper312 wrote:Trump's hand was never as strong as people wanted to believe.
Absolute bullshit.
He would have had more than enough support to publicly say the following:
"Due to the States not following their own laws regarding elections, and the massive amounts of fraud, the armed forces will secure another election, which will be done by paper ballot, any person attempting to deliver ballots without a chain of custody will be shot."

Kingly Gift wrote:I believe the enemy ruling class wants Trump to stick around, to keep Traditional Americans incapacitated by being duped into putting all our energy into a reality TV version of a leader instead of finding an actual leader.
This is very likely the case.
Trump's non-hatred of America and the people of these United States put him head-and-shoulders above the opposition — now imagine what someone who actually loved the people of these United States and seeing Justice done would do.

DeadMeat wrote:But, maybe this is how God teaches people not to rely on man. Trump was put on a pedestal by a lot of the right, but he's just a man. Only God can fix what's wrong in this nation, and that's assuming He wants to. I hope He does.

MichaelJMaier wrote:What was the damned point of the 2018 electoral EO and the goings on in Frankfurt if he wasn't going to see it through?
Could be Deep State sending this message to nationalists: "You can never win."

justaguy wrote:Why would anyone think that the law-abiding repubs would CTR? The Dems have already crossed so many times that they built a bridge-- think of all the illegal things that O did covered by his wingman.
What?
You think the Base is losing because they're law-abiding?
Have you actually read the laws? Abiding by the laws would revitalize the base immensely, the reason that people are so demoralized is because we're shown again and again that the Law Enforcement uses laws as if they were to keep the Average Joe in line while protecting the 'elite' from him and his wrath. — No, all that is needed are people in authority-positions who do Justly.

Ken Prescott wrote:One man can't save a nation that doesn't want to be saved.
I'm sorry; what?
Did you forget 2016, or before they did the 0330 Steal?
Did you forget how "Drain the Swamp" & "Build the Wall" were popular things?
The issue isn't that the Nation doesn't want to be saved, it's that the Elites want to kill and/or replace the Nation.

Charlie wrote:China opened their country up on April 8, 2020. Their economy has grown while every other country (with the possible exception of Sweden) seems to be in a depression. I don't know why Trump didn't open the USA on April 9th, but I don't think the world would be in the mess it is today if he had. Big mistake on his part.
Wrong solution.
He should have closed all the borders, seaports, and airports with lethal force authorization a year ago... if he had, we would be a year into having built our own domestic manufacturing while at the same time kneecapping the Mega-Corporations that are more loyal to China and its workers than the US and our workers.

Blogger Nemesis The Warlock March 01, 2021 4:38 PM  

@133. Crush Limbraw wrote:Trump was trumped by those who control the political infrastructure - plain and simple!

We've had well over 100 years of steady and relentless infestation of our house by termites, to the point that when we call for pest control, more termite planters usually respond.

The question is - why?

Answer - those whose responsibilities include maintaining culture and education have slept in our comfortable homes and churches - while gradually losing them all to our 'friendly' infestees.

We're too freaking lazy and stupid to do the hard work necessary - as clearly outlined by our instruction book. Read Ephesians 6 sometimes - all of it. Then read Hebrews 5 and 6 - especially 5:11 through 6:2.

Our purpose here on earth is not to have Jesus be our Divine Butler - we are His bond servants - not Trump's or any other earthly messiah's.

When we become serious about our mission as outlined in Matt. 28:28-20, the blessings of God will abound according to our faith and diligence - and most of all, His grace.

That is the only purpose of my life and yours - which I have discovered after wandering in the desert of life most of my days.

Better late than never - read the rest at you know where - and get to work!


This is spot on, I completely concur and it has been borne out in my life experience also. A life in Truth changes everything.

Blogger Les Garnet March 01, 2021 4:40 PM  

I'm moving on from Trump, he was good at bitching about not being treated fair, while at the same time saying he would let his IG handle it. So many hiring f ups, he couldn't work in HR at Kmart. Sure he did a lot of good, but like he said " I caught them all" then of course he let them all go loose on America. He threatened to designate antifa domestic terrorists but again his nutsack shrank and he failed to act while Americans were murdered and cities destroyed.

Also President Trump presided while America was attacked by China with a bio weapon and again he was indecisive. No leadership.

If the election system can be fixed I will only vote for DeSantis there is no one else.

Trump no longer has a legacy, he has been cancelled by potato heads 50 or 60 executive orders.

Blogger Andrea Daley Utronebel March 01, 2021 5:09 PM  

Trump didn't and couldn't drain the swamp. If he did, there would be no government left as the entire DC is the swamp. Government couldn't function without the swamp, and Trump didn't have the men with whom to fill up the swamp with a healthy eco-system.

So, he recruited people like Nikki Haley, Bolton, Pompeo, Barr, and etc. All a sad joke.

How bad is the deep state? Edward Snowden became big news, but the bigger news is that so many people in the NSA knew exactly what he knew and saw exactly what he saw but remained silent and went along with the system despite its constitutional violations. They are more about power and career than principles and freedom.

So, the real big story is not that one man, Snowden, told the truth, but that so many 'Knowdens'--who know what's really going on--remained silent, followed orders, and complied with the Lie.

For every Snowden, there are a 1,000 Knowdens, and that is the real big story of power.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 01, 2021 5:56 PM  

Oswald wrote:The facts seem to indicate some kind of internal cold war going on in the Government and the Military between various factions.
I agree. I don't think any of those factions are on the side of the American nation.

Blogger Electric Dinosaur March 01, 2021 6:30 PM  

Jeff Davis > Trump
Davis had the guts to act.

Blogger Patrick McNally March 01, 2021 9:01 PM  

My own personal impression is that Trump was given the Presidency in 2016 with the aim that he would eventually attack Iran in line with Netanyahu's wishes. Trump may very well have intended this from the start, but he nonetheless made his own objective assessment of the political climate and decided against it. That then cost him the Presidency in 2020.

It's likely that if Trump had launched a full-scale attack on Iran in his last few months then Pence would have been eager to turn the vote over to Congress. Trump had always built his career around the image of the successful white man who loves Israel. But he wasn't just a slavish follower of orders from AIPAC headquarters. This was a good image as long as he did not run for office. When he did Netanyahu had hoped that after prepping public opinion he would attack Iran. When he didn't do this, letting him go was the natural thing for the Likudniki.

The background to keep in mind is that Obama's Presidency was not some elite coup, and was certainly not desired by Netanyahu. In 2008 the Likudniki and neocons wanted McCain to take the Presidency and invade Iran. Obama's victory reflected public disgust with the neocon wars. Obama was definitely a trained member of the establishment (as was Trump), but he was never the preferred candidate of the establishment. From the point of view of traditional elites the preferred choices would have been McCain versus Clinton in 2008 and Bush versus Clinton in 2016. Both the Obama and Trump victories in 2008 and 2016 were an upset to this.

As Obama's years in office went by the tensions between himself and Netanyahu flared more and more uncontrollably. To deal with this Obama accented the public face of his 2nd term on charges of "white racism." I don't agree that this was some well-crafted advance plan by Obama or any other elite sector. Obama just found himself pressured to appeal to grassroots Jews over Netanyahu's reach.

What Obama found was that many Jews were willing to tolerate a President who was in repeated conflict with Netanyahu as long as that President was always hammering about "white supremacy." There were a lot of grassroots Jews who hated white Goyim more than they cared about Israel. Obama exploited this fact in order to avoid being trapped by the Israel lobby in the manner of JFK or James Forrestal.

So when Trump announced his candidacy there were hopes among Netanyahu's crew that Trump would bring everything back to sanity with a good war for Israel in Iran as the final outcome. Trump may have intended to deliver this outcome at the beginning only to back off later. But this was what really cost him the office.

Blogger DBolton March 01, 2021 9:39 PM  

I am not Moslem (not at all!) but I have read the Koran: yes, Allah IS the same God (albeit the way he is depicted does differ from Judaism, and Christianity, just as Yahweh in the Old Testament differs greatly from the "loving God" on the New Testament); 2) Islam considers Jesus Christ to be a GREAT prophet, and predecessor of Mohamed; they even believe in the Virgin Birth (as do Catholics). Judaism, on the other hand, considers Jesus to be a "false Messiah".

Blogger Laconic March 01, 2021 10:49 PM  

As if anyone cares, heres me two cents.

Its retarded to think one man, almost alone, can solve every problem. Especially when faced with massive obstacles.
This is heading to war and you can't hope for one old man to deal with everything. Its also retarded to think this can be dealt with by laws/courts etc when they are so obviously corrupt. Either the beast system gains full control or War.

It will be bloody

I still like trump btw. I think TDS has an opposite. I would call it the trump pedestal syndrome


Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 01, 2021 11:02 PM  

DBolton wrote:Allah IS the same God (albeit the way he is depicted does differ from Judaism, and Christianity, just as Yahweh in the Old Testament differs greatly from the "loving God" on the New Testament); 2) Islam considers Jesus Christ to be a GREAT prophet, and predecessor of Mohamed; they even believe in the Virgin Birth (as do Catholics). Judaism, on the other hand, considers Jesus to be a "false Messiah".
Clever wording. A not-so careful reader would think you were a Christian. Congratulations.
Now fuck off with your bullshit. Moslems deny utterly the one important thing about Christ. He is the Son of God, Come to give his life in ransom for the World. They can believe all the accidents they want, they utterly and completely deny the essence.
And no, the Allah of the Moslem is not the God of the Christian.The assertion that he is is simple Taqiyya, lying to try to bring about the submission of the unbeliever, a practice not just accepted but laded and encouraged by Islam.
Allah of the Moslem is a lying, capricious, arbitrary slave master, neither my Father nor my adoptive brother.

Blogger Anon March 01, 2021 11:39 PM  

@166 You can't be as harsh on them as TDS though. Everyone's desperate for a hero right now, yet it feels like noone can actually step forward to do something. All of us are doing things in our lives to prepare for dark days ahead but aside from that there doesn't seem to be anybody with a concrete plan of where to go from here. Them announcing the confiscation squads tomorrow would almost be comforting, because atleast then we'd know what's happening and the options forward. Instead there's just this agonizing limbo of knowing something's going on yet due to lack of an immediate and clear threat being unable to do anything about it.
I am thankful for the Founding Fathers having the foresight for the 2nd amendment, because without it we'd be in the gulags by now.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 02, 2021 9:10 AM  

DBolton wrote:I am not Moslem (not at all!) but I have read the Koran: yes, Allah IS the same God (albeit the way he is depicted does differ from Judaism, and Christianity, just as Yahweh in the Old Testament differs greatly from the "loving God" on the New Testament);
Wrong on all counts.
The Koran explicitly says that Allah has no son, no equal, is NOT the father of Jesus. Not our God. Sura 3.
God is no different in the NT or OT. The entire OT is the lead-in to the NT.
DBolton wrote:2) Islam considers Jesus Christ to be a GREAT prophet, and predecessor of Mohamed; they even believe in the Virgin Birth (as do Catholics). Judaism, on the other hand, considers Jesus to be a "false Messiah".
More stupid. A great prophet would be a false messiah indeed. Jesus didn't come to prophecize, he came to fulfill prophecy.

Blogger xevious2030 March 02, 2021 10:37 AM  

“is that Obama's Presidency was not some elite coup”

He was picked to be president over 30 years before he became so. Groomed for longer. So yes, not a coup. After all the years of Democrat vs. Republican, and Bush and Clinton mutually considering each other like brothers, you don’t understand what “you’re watching a movie” means? The US Supreme Court, except for two/three members, refusing to even hear any of the vote stuff? Congress (House/Senate) validating the election farce? The military in force, in sufficient numbers to institute a junta in favor of someone, and they just go home, mostly?

It’s all fake. It’s all narrative. It’s been fake for a long, long time. The outcomes of the wars, fake, scripted to eventuality. They tell storytime in Hollywood, and people understand. They tell storytime in Washington DC, and everyone thinks it is real and genuine. Obama was as real as Biden.

Look up the movie “10 days of darkness.” It’s about a bit of light, brought in artificially, into an area plagued by continual darkness for half of the year. The darkness, is in part due to mountains, giants, blocking out the light. The light exposes the dark. A variety of mirrors are needed to bring it in, but it is true sunlight. That was Trump.

Blogger Patrick McNally March 02, 2021 1:24 PM  

Obama was not even picked by more than a fraction of the elite to be President in 2008, never mind 30 years earlier. The main backers of the Democrats wanted Hillary in 2008. Voters rejected her because the Democrats had pan-handled for the Bush drive into Iraq in 2002-3. Obama was an alternate to what the elite Democrats actually had intended.

Obama's terms in office were the first real open sign of conflict between the Presidency and the Israel lobby. Definitely not something planned for 30 years. It was Trump who set out to restore the power of the Israel lobby. But he did not go fast and far enough in moving against Iran and so lost out on the option of clinching a 2nd term.

Blogger Mamabear37 March 02, 2021 2:10 PM  

Cheers! *sips black coffee*

Blogger James Jameson March 02, 2021 4:32 PM  

At this point I would much rather Rand Paul for 2024. Trump will awfully old in 2024, and he has lost most of his lustre, not only for failing to cross the Rubicon, but for going silent after Jan 6, not even posting on Gab besides his missals from the "Office of the Former President" and giving only a boilerplate speech and a Limbaugh eulogy call-in.

Blogger MrNiceguy March 02, 2021 4:50 PM  

Plus torpedoing all current and future political aspirations for ¡Yeb!

Blogger xevious2030 March 02, 2021 5:07 PM  

“was not even picked by more than a fraction of the elite”

Your net for elites is considerably more inclusive than mine. The bargain basement levels. The higher ups don’t care, so long as all the candidates leave certain areas alone, coordinate when required, and are obedient to a fault so are as those things are concerned.

If I’m a globalist, managing scores of trillions, and have quite a few politicians, how hard is it to raise a few slaves, move them through a network, and have them placed where I want? How about multiple slaves on one side of the isle, and also on the other, so the house always wins? They would have to be utterly moronic no to do so, as in f-ing retards. It’s not like people are expensive when you make up money out of nothing.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 02, 2021 6:38 PM  

James Jameson wrote:Trump will awfully old in 2024, and he has lost most of his lustre, not only for failing to cross the Rubicon, but for going silent after Jan 6, ...
All that, but worse than than that he is not a Nationalist. He's a nice old Civ-nat Boomer dude who tried to restore the empire to its '50s high point.

He was a great president, but he's not going to endorse a nationalist, and he's not going to do anything that might help end the empire.

Blogger Patrick McNally March 02, 2021 6:49 PM  

Nobody associated with JINSA or AIPAC was happy with Obama. What they wanted was a McCain Presidency leading to an invasion of Iran. Even those who were more "moderate" in the common parlance tended to gravitate more to Hillary Clinton than Barack Obama. Obama was not any kind of outsider (neither was Trump) but the people who ended up backing him (Zbigniew Brzezinski certainly did) viewed the political conflict of 2008 as a campaign to shake off the Israel lobby.

In some insignificant ways they did achieve this. Zbigniew Brzezinski was not some comrade of Bill Kristol. Kristol was spouting the line for those Israel-supporters who wanted an immediate invasion of Iran in 2009. Brzezinski was a more traditional superpower manager who wanted to restrict interventions to more limited operations ala Obama.

But even among the wider set of CFR types (which certainly included Brzezinski) there was a greater preference in early 2007 for Hillary Clinton. While neocons favored John McCain. The victory of Obama in 2008 reflected the fact that the elites were forced to recognize that the Iraq war had created strong disgust in the populace. That was definitely not something which any powerful faction had wanted to nurture. It was just what they were forced to deal with.

Trump was regarded by Netanyahu as his way around the failure of neocons to get the USA into Iran. Trump failed to deliver and so he was dropped in November. Otherwise if he had gone to war against Iran then pence would probably have saved him.

Blogger Hen March 02, 2021 8:21 PM  

What I can't overcome is the "vaccination", which I hope to avoid with my life. With my soul intact.

I see that Trump is very proud of his vaccine,and for this I am speechless.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel March 02, 2021 8:31 PM  

@165

"I am not Moslem (not at all!)"

Pardon me if I'm on guard for taqiyya.

"Islam considers Jesus Christ to be a GREAT prophet, and predecessor of Mohamed; they even believe in the Virgin Birth (as do Catholics)"

And here comes the same canard that Muslims trot out in a futile effort to establish some sort of syncretic theological comity that does not exist. Jesus Christ is God, and to call Him a great prophet is not a honor, nut a denial.

Observant Christians understand this gravity of this

"But he that shall deny me before men, I will also deny him before my Father who is in heaven."

Matthew 10:33

As an aside, the Virgin Birth is not at issue or in dispute. There are at least nine Biblical references to the Virgin Birth.

If you are going to troll or shill for Islam in the thread for an unrelated topic, be less obvious and more informed.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel March 02, 2021 8:32 PM  

@173

"At this point I would much rather Rand Paul for 2024."

No libertarians, thank you.

Blogger xevious2030 March 02, 2021 8:46 PM  

Obama was groomed in early age by the CIA, made it through college with such wise considerations that he keeps his work hidden from view. Waltzed into the Senate. Waltzed into the presidency. How many times you trip and accidentally get someone pregnant?

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel March 02, 2021 8:47 PM  

@115

The surviving few congresscritters would have fallen over themselves to suck up to him. The surviving news media would have sung his praises. By 2020 Trump could have been Caesar, but he never wanted to be Caesar.

You are right, he didn't want to be Caesar. Unfortunately Schumer and Pelosi and the rest of the Hee-Haw gang do want to be Caesar, despite not having national electability even with Biden's greatest fraud system.

We'll see what he does as time goes on.

Even if he clubs a baby seal on live television, he deterred that witch and gave us four years more years.

Perfect, hardly. Better than the alternative, indisputably.


Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 02, 2021 9:17 PM  

Hen wrote:I see that Trump is very proud of his vaccine,and for this I am speechless.
If the Trumpvaccine does turn out to be disastrous, it's definitely going to be the Trumpvaccine. Trump has no control over how bad it is, but he's absolutely going to own it if it's bad.

Blogger xevious2030 March 02, 2021 9:26 PM  

“were forced to recognize that the Iraq war had created strong disgust in the populace”

We’re still in Afghanistan. We left Iraq to give the windup, ISIS, a base of operations. Go fish.

Blogger Patrick McNally March 03, 2021 6:17 PM  

@181

No doubt Obama was groomed by the CIA from an early stage, just as Trump was groomed by the Jewish lobby from an early stage. But people who are groomed from an early stage are not always being groomed for the Presidency. Both Obama and Trump were groomed for rather similar reasons, albeit by slightly different special interest factions within the oligarchy.

Obama was groomed with the intent that someone like him could get out the black vote for someone like Hillary Clinton. It goes completely against all evidence to claim that when the election season began in early 2007 that the bigwigs among the Democrats were lining up to bring in Obama. They were lining up behind Hillary. It just became obvious that voters had rejected her and so Obama moved to front place.

With regards to Trump, the original intent by Trump's Jewish sponsors was that he would not become a politician but would just serve as an example of the successful real estate mogul and TV star who loves Israel. However, just as Democratic voters displayed a wide disgust with Hillary in 2007-8, Republican voters did the same towards Jeb in 2015-6. Just as Obama had moved to the front of the line without having originally been The Chosen One (Hillary was that), so too did Trump move ahead over Jeb and everyone else.

When this occurred Netanyahu temporarily attached himself to Trump and in doing so he cut out people like Bill Kristol as the middle-man. That pissed Kristol off and made him a Never Trumper. But Netanyahu dumped Trump when it became apparent that Trump's first term was drawing to an end with no decisive attack on Iran.

Blogger xevious2030 March 04, 2021 7:10 AM  

“the bigwigs among the Democrats”

No, the presidency. You’re banging legos together, and drooling on yourself.

Blogger SmokeyJoe March 05, 2021 7:53 AM  

@ 161 Andrea Daley Utronebel

"Trump didn't and couldn't drain the swamp. If he did, there would be no government left as the entire DC is the swamp. Government couldn't function without the swamp, and Trump didn't have the men with whom to fill up the swamp with a healthy eco-system."

Bit late for reply, but there were, and still are, plenty of replacement men to fill those gov't posts. Out of the 80+ millions that voted.

Plenty of nationalist patriots would be capable of running the FBI, AG, White House Kitchen slots. Need some trustworthy generals? Well that's where being Commander in Chief comes in handy. Plenty of capable lower ranking officers to promote.

What's the point of being "The Boss" if your not going to use the powers of "The Boss?

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