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Monday, March 01, 2021

Mailvox: the worst mortal sin

A Boomer confesses the greatest sin of his g-g-generation. I tend to agree, although I think their grandparenting may be even worse than their parenting. I mean, they may have created latchkey children, but at least they were usually resident in the same STATE at the time.

I enjoy your posts, etc. very much. You could not be more correct about my g-g-generation. I am a 1954 baby. Hunter S. Thompson, may God rest his soul, wrote a book later in his life entitled “Generation of Vipers” Could there be a more apt description of my ‘peeps’?  Yes, great accomplishments accompanied them on their march to the grave, but those pale in comparison to the almost incalculable damage done by the generation of vipers.  I could list them, but you already have the litany memorized. Nor am I innocent. I have been by turns selfish, greedy, self-indulgent, shallow, and that’s the good part. Heck, I could make you feel like you are in the receiving end of a confessional here. I may not be on the level of a Hunter Biden, but I was a scoundrel, nonetheless.

Good news is that I have grown. My political epiphany happened in 1979. The last time I voted for a Democrat was Jimmy Carter in 1976.  Thereafter I have voted Republican even though I knew that at least 50% of them were no better than their openly demonic opponents.  Recent events have only reinforced my conviction that R’s versus D’s is all kabuki theater intended to fool the rubes. I absolutely relish President Donald Trump, our true president. DJT was the only president since Calvin Coolidge who truly worked for the good of our people 24/7/365. He remains the stone rejected by the mason which may yet become the cornerstone of the new temple.

My religious epiphany came in 1996 when I returned to my Christian roots as a mature, informed, experienced sinner working day by day on his own personal reformation....

So, here’s the punchline. In my opinion the worst mortal sin of all the many shortcomings and transgressions of my g-g-generation, is their parenting. We are now seeing the grandchildren born of the children raised by my generation. There are MANY young folks who despite the downward flow of inter-generational excrement have matured into responsible citizens. That having been stipulated, there is a great mass of poor wretches who bear the burden of two generations of varying degrees of pathetic, apathetic and/or downright pernicious parenting. 

They may not be entirely blameless; however, many have become vicious, confused, illiterate, innumerate, sexually perverted morons. They are the victims of varying degrees of child-abuse at the hands of the generation of vipers or their sons and daughters. If a dog bites because he has been beaten by a sadist, how can we blame the dog? For this sin alone the Boomers doom is foretold and is unavoidable. To paraphrase my Lord and Savior, “woe unto he who leads the young ones away from the light”. Of all the punishments that the Boomers so richly deserve, this will be the harshest by far. Truly, it will have been better for them that they were never born.

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Anonymous Anonymous March 01, 2021 6:45 PM  

This was the greatest post made in a very, very, very long time. Not saying the others were bad, they were Walls of Truth.

Just not as much of a Tsunami of Truth as this , a wave which rolls and rolls and rolls and devastates everything in its path.

Damm.

Blogger Unknown March 01, 2021 7:14 PM  

They came of age the heirs of ruin,

When remnants of the West were carrion

To a ravening madness, a fear whose name

Their fathers knew but feared remember, for shame

Had so unmanned them, and degradations

By degrees for generations

The Enemy bred them to embrace and cherish.

The virtues of their forebears so would perish,

And with them any memory of their worth

As nations or the race from whom came forth

A civilization peerless and sublime.

Blogger tdcommenter March 01, 2021 7:31 PM  

"How not to become a Millenial" comes to mind.

Blogger Cinco March 01, 2021 7:54 PM  

Bad trees do not produce good fruit.

Blogger Silly but True March 01, 2021 7:59 PM  

I have some empathy for Millennials. But also, at some point you have to learn to love something — in spite of having been afflicted by Boomer relatives — and move on with starting your own life.

Blogger sammibandit March 01, 2021 7:59 PM  

What a refreshing post. I really liked the part about coming to God in the 90s. My only criticism is that the author didn't go enough into how that came about. God bless you, reformed boomer.

My religious epiphany came in 1996 when I returned to my Christian roots as a mature, informed, experienced sinner working day by day on his own personal reformation....

Lovely prose. I hope the author comes to the comments to add more to this. Such a way with words must have a good story to go with it and I'm all ears.

Blogger rumpole5 March 01, 2021 8:21 PM  

I must commend this post. It reminds me of the Confessions of St. Augustine.

Blogger Call Me Mort March 01, 2021 8:39 PM  

I was born four years before the 1946 start of the Boomer generation, and we generally adopted the culture of our parents and elders as we matured. However, in the early 60’s, parents and elders started adopting youth culture. I peg it to Chubby Checker and the twist. Parents wanted to twist and rock out and be like the kids. Well, the kids didn’t want their parents to be like them so they smoked dope, dropped acid, grew long hair, and went so crazy with their music that it would be difficult if not impossible for the adults to follow. By the way, the crazy music was made possible by the invention of the electric guitar. Also, don’t forget the effect on civilization of the birth control pill, the draft, and no-fault divorce.

Blogger Azimus March 01, 2021 8:41 PM  

The Boomers tore a lot of holes in the hull and then leapt off the taffrail, cackling and guzzling champagne as they plunge into the deep. The Titanic is sinking.

The good news is there are, in my estimation, enough Xers to put the ship right. But we're going to be down to critical systems only before we bottom out (I expect what the Texans went through the last two weeks will become the norm), and the ship will be A LOT smaller when we come out of this, but I have confidence that we have the resolve, discipline, and most of all love for our children to give them a future.

Blogger I, Claudius March 01, 2021 8:51 PM  

This guy doesn't sound like a reformed boomer. Talks way to much about himself.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 01, 2021 8:53 PM  

As I said in the other thread, but bears repeating.
My generation sold the birthright of their own children and grandchildren in return for cheap sex, cheap drugs, cheap idleness, cheap self-love, and petty cash.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope March 01, 2021 8:59 PM  

The difficulty for us in GenX to fix this is how the Boomers continue to drain resources needed to foster real growth.

Pensions bankrupting your company and city and state? Any reform is blocked by Boomer judges.

Our low skill jobs which should go to our youth and those of lower IQ through no fault of their own- taken by illegals and legals.

Forcing the young into massive debt instead of working in college. Enabling generations of welfare queens who suck even more resources while churning out the next generation of parasites.

The pillows are to remove the ones who are sucking all seed corn out of the system without adding anything back.

My Silent Gen parents (still working full time) will do anything to live near us and their grandkids. They sacrificed their entire lives for the next generation.

My Boomer friends are much the same. My Boomer acquaintances however fit the stereotype like a glove.

Blogger shadohand (akuma sock account# 799273 Matt Gaetz is all for the P.L.U.R. Life (Peace, Love, Unity and Republicanism) ) March 01, 2021 8:59 PM  

Silly but True wrote:I have some empathy for Millennials. But also, at some point you have to learn to love something — in spite of having been afflicted by Boomer relatives — and move on with starting your own life.

Kind of hard to Love something and Move On (Get Over It, Deal With It, FUGetAboutIt, etc.) , when everything Good, True, and Beautiful on Gods Green Earth has been stained, bungled, aborted, and declared a Mental Illness by The Boomeritis, and metastasized by Degenerative X, in some way shape or form, eternally with no sign of Repentance and Reparations anytime soon.

"Who can make him clean that is conceived of unclean seed? is it not thou who only art?"
-Job 14:4 Douay–Rheims Bible

Blogger Angela March 01, 2021 9:01 PM  

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Blogger SM777 March 01, 2021 9:19 PM  

Hmmm. Speaking as a Generation X, for once I actually agree with a Boomer.

Blogger Rattlesnake_Kid March 01, 2021 9:20 PM  

"Hunter S. Thompson, may God rest his soul..."

Sickening.

Blogger SM777 March 01, 2021 9:21 PM  

Yes indeed, "...and the ship will be A LOT smaller when we come out of this" when they start the mass corona-hoax/covid-fraud vaccine. Well, there will be less traffic on the road, fewer Karens and Millenials to deal with and real estate and rent will likely go lower.

Blogger Eric Waite March 01, 2021 9:35 PM  

Thompson's book on 80s era Boomers was titled "Generation of Swine" A more fitting description.

Blogger Shane Bradman March 01, 2021 9:44 PM  

My boomer father is beginning to realise that he bought into the lies. He abandoned his home and his family in search of money, but it wasn't worth it.

Blogger sammibandit March 01, 2021 9:45 PM  

As I said in the other thread, but bears repeating.
My generation sold the birthright of their own children and grandchildren in return for cheap sex, cheap drugs, cheap idleness, cheap self-love, and petty cash.


That's why,exactly why, you're not a Boomer. You repent and have humility. It's attitude more than trips around the sun, repenting what must be cast aside and moving on.

This brings me to a confession of mine. My generation bought into the usury of our forebears and took upon ourselves debt that cannot be repossessed or discharged. We bought into the lie that humans are killing our planet, though we could be more hygienic and nationalize waste disposal, and that having children is selfish. I repent these things of my generation and try to help my peers as we navigate adult life.

Blogger sammibandit March 01, 2021 9:46 PM  

I must commend this post. It reminds me of the Confessions of St. Augustine.

I hope you're inspired and pray you come to terms as well. God bless you.

Blogger Latigo3 March 01, 2021 9:47 PM  

I agree with this. As a Gen-Xer (born in 1967), I recall being seven years of age and my mother giving me a set of keys for the house and then showing me the route to walk home from school. Of all the ugly things that happened in my home growing up, this stayed with me the most and when my daughter was born, my wife didn't go back to work.

Blogger SonyAD March 01, 2021 9:47 PM  

Azimus wrote:The Boomers tore a lot of holes in the hull and then leapt off the taffrail, cackling and guzzling champagne as they plunge into the deep. The Titanic is sinking.

The good news is there are, in my estimation, enough Xers to put the ship right. But we're going to be down to critical systems only before we bottom out (I expect what the Texans went through the last two weeks will become the norm), and the ship will be A LOT smaller when we come out of this, but I have confidence that we have the resolve, discipline, and most of all love for our children to give them a future.



I'm starting believe we're witnessing the lead-up to Tribulation. That there won't be any righting of any nation-ship by man anymore. The world is becoming too surreal in its depravity and iniquity for it not to be clearly paranormal in origin and the lead-up to the unveiling of actual, non-human, corporeal or incarnate evil.

Blogger Pytor March 01, 2021 9:55 PM  

"many have become vicious, confused, illiterate, innumerate, sexually perverted morons." = 95% of youth in the SF Bay Area

Blogger Doc March 01, 2021 10:05 PM  

Boomereformed

Blogger flbikeped March 01, 2021 10:21 PM  

May God bless my reposed Bloomer parents! They were even greater than I thought, having no idea how bad that generation was until recent years.

Blogger Padre Geo March 01, 2021 10:25 PM  

Guilty as charged.
Born in 1963. Grew up poor due to a father who couldn't keep a job, who ended up leaving when I was 13 years old. Grew up on my own with a sickly mother and a grandfather who used to drive me to concerts. As a child of divorce and also an only child, I was damaged goods from the start. I have an almost invincible lack of empathy and self-centeredness that still plagues me to this day. Music became my gamma area of expertise. I married at 30 and had one son. Determined to not be a lazy good-for-nothing father, I worked very hard. However, I worked too much, and missed a lot of family stuff, not that it bothered me. In my mind I was the good father, creating a great home for my family, while never being there. Total boomer all the way. My son received no love and help from me, only anger and silence when he "let me down", which was always. After becoming catholic in 2006 at the age of 43, it took another decade or so to have it get through my thick skull all the damage that I had caused. That pain will never go away, as it shouldn't. My wife has stuck with me through all of this. I don't know why, but she has, and I am thankful. Things are improving with my son and I, but it is slow going. He is 25, and is now slowly learning the things I failed to teach him when he was 15. His "girlfriend" who also lives with us, is mentally unstable, and lives like a hoarder. However, there is a bright spot! We also have two of the most loveliest, angelic grandchildren living with us, 3 and 4 years old. So, with my son working and getting his life in order, and his girlfriend working and incapable of being a nurturing mother, it is up to my wife and I to basically raise the grandchildren. God has a way of giving you the exact situation you need to try to make reparations for past mistakes. So, my days off are 7a-9p work days. I am watching all of my narcissistic boomer plans of retirement go up in flames. I lose my job net year. My savings is slowly being depleted, my house is slowly being rundown, and the record collection and fancy stereo has long since been sold. It is a blessing that as a boomer who damaged his one and only son, I get to spend the rest of my life trying to correct this, and in the destruction of my own life and possessions, I get a chance to correct my errors, and see my son (much delayed), and my grandchildren rise from the ashes of my life. I am truly blessed and would not have it any other way.

Blogger CM March 01, 2021 10:35 PM  

The biggest thing that identifies the Boomer is elevating wisdom gained from experience over wisdom gained from elders and tradition.

That’s what boomers cost my generation. Traditional and elderly wisdom. How does one build up when we are stuck reinventing the foundation?

Blogger Unknown March 01, 2021 10:39 PM  

Ok, ok, but have you tried the new Ethiopian place around the corner?

The arabs that run it cook up some really authentic stuff.

And the Diwali celebration at the office had some great vegetarian curry plate.

If it weren't for us boomers, just imagine how bland your nights out would be!

/s

Blogger Your Brother Paul Miles March 01, 2021 10:52 PM  

I for one do not actually put the generation before the Boomers on a pedestal. Yes they were great, but being GenX myself, I have observed sweet older people who 1. had children out of wedlock, 2. were responsible for the boomers upbringing, 3. were just as promiscuous as the Boomers - once you ask more questions and wade into that grubby pool.

So, yes, I know the Boomers were not that great, but to contrast them so differently than their before and after generations is a bit disingenuous from my viewpoint. The apple never falls far from the tree, and I can certainly say, then that all those bad apple boomers did not come from a pure and great tree!

As far back as I can see, all generations have been equally promiscuous, equally greedy and selfish, and that is my own starting point looking back.

I think it is a bit unfair to nail all of the sins on the cross of the Boomers, and give everyone else redemption. In reality the father drank vinegar and set his children's teeth on edge.

Blogger D. March 01, 2021 10:54 PM  

Maybe (((Boomers)))? Someone is leading the charge.

Blogger D. March 01, 2021 10:58 PM  

Think '60's: Bob Dylan, Abby Hoffman, Saul Alinsky, "Freedom Riders", Bela Abzug... The (((List))) is big.

Blogger Azimus March 01, 2021 11:06 PM  

@SonyAD - your thoughts are not uncommon among the peoples of dying empires. Everyone thinks the end of their particular epoch is the end of it all. Thessalonians talks about what you should be watching for - and also that you should be working (he who doesn't work doesn't eat). You can choose to believe that this is the first time in human existence that man was really depraved and God's coming to strike it all to the ground. I don't. But in the mean-time, you should be working for a better tomorrow. And guard your heart against despair.

Blogger CF Neal March 01, 2021 11:34 PM  

Maybe more boomers meant more bad apples?
Maybe more boomers after The Bomb meant badder apples?
Maybe more boomers late-bloomers means, "The best is yet to come"?

hehe

Blogger Bernard Korzeniewicz March 01, 2021 11:52 PM  

Our Lord may forgive us our sins if we ask with all our heart, but consequences of our sins stay here till someone suffer them. Be a grabbler. Think about good and evil as a bookkeeping. Sins are our debt.
Now we all may tremble.

Blogger Elder Son March 02, 2021 12:32 AM  

Read the Bible. Boomerism isn't a new thing. Nor is sin. Even Gods Chosen People spent 40 years in the wilderness until the "Boomers" were gone, now read on from, the Boomers were gone.

Mankind has a sin problem. It began in Gods Garden. The heart of mankind is the same old story, from the beginning, to the end. The question isn't, "Do you know Jesus?" The question is, "Does Jesus KNOW you?" Work on that. Because YOU are going to answer for it, no one else is. Not mom and pops, not the grandparents, not Adam and Eve... but YOU. And yes, it is personal.

Blogger Unknown March 02, 2021 12:40 AM  

13. shadohand (akuma sock account# 8545425 one intergenerational war, three factions: boomer cucks, degenerate xers, and millennial kids. who will win?)

it's not a good idea to start with lie.

Boomers started the whole intergenerational war thing, against THEIR parents.

but, of course, you can't admit that you did this and that it was wrong.

Blogger LAZ March 02, 2021 1:12 AM  

"But we're going to be down to critical systems only before we bottom out (I expect what the Texans went through the last two weeks will become the norm),"

Like I've been telling people, around here they've taken rural living to new heights. 100 miles out from the metroplex it's all trailers and McMansions. We're talking millions of people and I'm sure they learned a lesson. Lots of broken wells and tankless water heaters. Almost all will be prepared for the next time the power goes out, even if it's just a small generator and a couple cans of fuel.

Anonymous Anonymous March 02, 2021 2:01 AM  

Many Boomers like this but 0% of Boomers like this ever complain about being complained about.

Blogger The Critical G March 02, 2021 2:13 AM  

A repentant Boomer, now I've seen it all.

Blogger Philipski March 02, 2021 2:33 AM  

Ouch! That one hurts.

Blogger Bigger Bunyip March 02, 2021 2:59 AM  

Ok, this has gone on for too long, it's just not fair to say that Boomers are selfish. The truth is that they are really really stupid and lacking in self-awareness. Calling them selfish gives them way too much credit. My in-laws are Boomer grandparents. Awful. They have a painted portrait of their dog over the mantelpiece that they had commissioned, and several other photos of them and dog. Grand-kid photos get a tiny corner of the fridge under the shopping fliers.

Blogger grandadrepsher March 02, 2021 3:33 AM  

Actually, Generation of Vipers was written in 1943 by Philip Wylie, the author of When Worlds Collide. It was more a criticism of beliefs and practices of the greatest generation than anything else. He hated Christianity.

Blogger Philipski March 02, 2021 3:54 AM  

Ouch! That one hurts.

Blogger Timelines Flying Monkeys March 02, 2021 5:55 AM  

Great Post. Your an inspiration.

Blogger Shimshon March 02, 2021 6:29 AM  

It really is the parenting that was and is so horrific. Even the grandparenting.

My in-laws were so self-absorbed, they couldn't be bothered to show up for a single one of our sons' births or other life events, even when they lived close by, 90 minutes by car. It wasn't the money, which they had plenty of.

When my first were born (twins), my mother came, expecting to have no interest at all in tiny babies. That sounds pretty boomer, does it not? These were her first grandchildren, so she had no idea what to expect. Then she saw them and instantly fell in love and couldn't get enough of them, and all her plans to see friends instead of us and the babies went by the wayside. Nothing else mattered to her. Despite money being short, she never even considered missing their bar mitzvahs. She came and spent every waking moment with them. When we lived closed by, she wanted to spend as much time as possible with them and loved when we asked if she would take them for the weekend, never saying no.

There's more to it than this, but my mother was born in 1943, and my mother in law was born in 1946. Enough said. She came from a pretty rough background. That's one thing as child or young adult, but a whole other thing in the prime of your life when you have more money than you know what to do with it and you literally resent your daughter's success and good life.

To his credit, my father in law tried to make amends and be a better grandfather than father. My kids loved him dearly, and miss him quite a bit. He also reconciled quite nicely with my wife, but there are limits when your wife is a completely selfish bitch. He's dead now, and so my mother in law, without the sanity anchor of him in her life, went completely bonkers. My kids have no interest in a relationship with her at all.

Blogger wgmeisheid March 02, 2021 7:00 AM  

I was fortunate. When I was 28, I got saved by reading of all things, Hal Lindsey's The Late Great Planet Earth (1976). It wasn't his eschatology that got me but his personal witness surrounding his conversion story and the significance of making a personal choice for Jesus as my Lord and Savior. His eschatology never took. However, I made the choice for Jesus Christ and the next day everything began to change. I was eventually led to a local Episcopal church that was undergoing the Charismatic renewal and its Rector had a healing ministry and service (every Tuesday night) that drew overflow crowds and people standing in line an hour before the doors open. That began a long and arduous journey of faith and discipleship that saved me out of the worst of my Boomerism because being the classic Boomer is inimical to being a real Christian and not a CINO (Christian in Name Only) as many Boomers proved to be.

Fortunately my marriage and parenthood came after my discipleship journey had begun, so my daughter was raised in the faith and had discipline and structure growing up.

Here is the point. Jesus is the only answer I know to Boomer decrepitude. Without his saving grace there is no hope of redeeming your boomerism. You need the new creation he offers that becomes "I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me."

It is your only hope Boomer. Make the choice. You will not regret it.

Blogger urthshu March 02, 2021 7:10 AM  

I don't want to get into it but yes, he's right, that's among their worst sins.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 02, 2021 7:15 AM  

...I think it is a bit unfair to nail all of the sins on the cross of the Boomers, and give everyone else redemption....

No one is giving anyone redemption. We all sin. But Boomers "turn, it to 11."

Just a few days ago there was a entry here about a tiwn in Florida where it is all Boomer All thr time. Does any othet current generation have its own genuine Sodom set out from the git go to be a bastion of sodomy?

No, there isnt a fuck-town for millenials, Z's, or Great.

Fuck Boomers AND their apologist.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 02, 2021 7:39 AM  


...I'm starting believe we're witnessing the lead-up to Tribulation.....

Dont be a wuss. Read Barbara Tuchmans A Distant Mirror. What we have today( well untill they put us in the gulags) is, even at its worst,( except for the gulags, ) is way better than 1300's. The Black Plauge killed 1 out 3. The coof, maybe, kill 1 of 105. Yet 1/2 the world has, much if which.. literally, lost its fucking mind.

Blogger rumpole5 March 02, 2021 8:01 AM  

I am either an excellent parent or exceptionally lucky. Serendipity is probably the better bet. I don't think that would have been the case if I had produced my son in my 20s or early 30s. Like the author, above, I experienced early epiphanies that completely changed my life focus and enabled me to be a decent father at age 38. I was also blessed with a non American wife who was raised in a rural Christian setting, without TV. As soon as my wife became a mother she quit working outside the home. I vowed that my son would never see the inside of a government school, and when I discovered the Classical Christian education movement, (See Dorothy Sayers - "The Lost Tools Of Learning") that was how he was educated. Our entire lives outside of what was necessary for me to earn a living, was focused on him developing talents and spiritual values that would be useful to him and sustain him later in life. Aside from hosting my wife's younger brother while he attended college, and parenting a grand nephew for a school year, raising that child was the most interesting and rewarding experience of my life. Although I live on a lower material standard than some of my contemporaries, I have been blessed beyond words by family life. Although the jokes about the feckless Millennials are often well founded, they are challenged by an even heavier load of cultural and spiritual degradation, than were we Boomers. I hope that many of them will also be blessed with red pill insights, and experience the joy of living "a quiet and peaceable life, in all Godliness and honesty".

Blogger RobertDWood March 02, 2021 8:10 AM  

Ok Boomer. No one here is familiar with the bible, thank you for bringing the enlightenment.

Blogger Bettey Fontaneaux March 02, 2021 8:15 AM  

It is so gratifying to find this blog on this topic. My wife and I are both dyed-in-the-wool X'ers (whether that is good or bad I leave to others to decide), and we have been saying for 20 years how terrible Boomers are as grandparents. It's like they are afraid to bother themselves with children, preferring instead to send the kids money, and then complaining about how the grandchildren don't relate to them. Or how our parents, when they do visit, spend their time talking with us but ignore our children. It is like they think they can either buy or demand affection, rather than earn it. It is the craziest thing.

I still don't understand it, but it is refreshing to see we aren't the only ones.

Blogger bad wolf March 02, 2021 8:23 AM  

Generation of Vipers was by Philip Wylie, author of “When Worlds Collide” and proto-Superman “Gladiator”. Probably not what the writer meant but an interesting read itself, it is mostly remembered as criticizing “mom-ism”, perhaps a forerunner of some of feminism variants

Blogger Jeff March 02, 2021 8:59 AM  

“Generation of Vipers” was actually written by Philip Wylie, but it was certainly proto-Thompson or maybe neo-Mencken. There was a copy in my house growing up. Wylie had it in for everyone.

Blogger Didas Kalos March 02, 2021 9:14 AM  

I know a man. He was born in 1978. At 40 years old. We have a company meeting. He would hang late at the bar in the restaurant or hotel and try to hook up with 20-25 year old girls. He was married. He was bald, shaved his head. He looked every bit 40 even though he was ripped from working out.
Once he said 'I can't believe I'm 40. And these girls are like 19 or 21. And they were. He thought that they thought he was attractive.

What do we call this generation?

Blogger Swamp Fox March 02, 2021 9:25 AM  

Lack of self reflection is a huge problem in our culture overall. Glad some still do it. My generation (the millennials) will destroy everything. We are just now coming into the peak of our careers and man, the US will feel it more than ever. The good news is lots of people my age don’t procreate. They see families, especially children, as burdens. Their culture will die out soon enough.

Blogger RC March 02, 2021 9:30 AM  

Paul wrote, "As far back as I can see, all generations have been equally promiscuous, equally greedy and selfish, and that is my own starting point looking back."

It's a big mistake to form your historical perspective anecdotally. In recent history we had no legal abortion options and no reliable birth control methods yet out-of-wedlock births were a fraction of today's while people married at younger ages and stayed married.

Blogger ml chemist March 02, 2021 9:52 AM  

Padre Geo wrote:Guilty as charged.

[wall of text]


You know how I know you're a boomer?

How dare you, GenXMillennialZ, we went to the moon! => wall of text
Not all boomers are like that => wall of text
Reborn boomer confessional => wall of text
Special pleading => wall of text
Appeal to authority => wall of text

Whether a boomer disagrees, is neutral, or agrees with your position, there's always 15 fucking minutes of pontification you have to eat if you ever bring up a topic.

Thanks for the N+1 lecture, GreatGrandpaUncleDad. I've never heard any of this before, but especially because this time it's somehow special because it happened to YOU.

Blogger Gottmituns March 02, 2021 1:00 PM  

Yes, I got the name of the book wrong. I had it on my bookshelf for years, too. Question for one commenter: Why is blessing a dead man, ANY dead man, grounds for a response of revulsion? I was puzzled by that comment. Of course, my master's thesis was on Adolf Hitler and the Rise of National Socialism. I attempted to answer the question how can a culture produce a monster like Hitler and an angelic composer (angelic work, not life), such as Mozart. Now my question has morphed into, can a person be so deep into sin that they are beyond redemption? Is a Hitler eligible for God's grace? I am only glad that I am responsible for my own soul and I fail to live up to my duties towards my fellow man each and every day. I wake the next morning and return to my work; on myself.

Blogger BeatYourHeadIn March 02, 2021 1:01 PM  

Everything in this post is good, great even,
but....

'By the way, the crazy music was made possible by the invention of the electric guitar'

Come on! That hurts me as a guitar player! The crazy music was made possible by the crazy musicians. There's plenty of pure degeneracy boomed from many a woofer that has zero electric guitars in it.

Blogger Lee March 02, 2021 1:52 PM  

The "Greatest Generation" let their kids be drafted and sent to a war in a far land. "Boomers" stopped that so it wouldn't happen to their kids.

For heavens sake, quit whining.

Blogger rumpole5 March 02, 2021 2:20 PM  

@Padre Geo Re: "Wall of text" (wot) I've seen just as many wots from aggrieved Gen Xers and Millennials as I have from Boomers, and those have given me valuable insight on why Gen Xers and Millennials feel the way that they do. If we don't figure out what has devastated Western culture, how are we ever going to repent? (in the navigational sense)

Blogger Beery Swine March 02, 2021 2:38 PM  

This will be kind of unrelated from everything else, but I was born in late 1982, so I could qualify as either gen X or gen Y/millennial, depending on where you draw the lines, but from an attitude perspective, I think I fall directly into the millennial segment. Understanding this, I think, concerning popular and trendy music, Gen X is objectively the best of them all. Clearly I'm not going into the classical eras here, mind you. I only just now, like within the past week or two of February 2021, started listening to ska punk, and it's just so great. Gen X has the best popular music from an objective standpoint.
What say you all?

Blogger wgmeisheid March 02, 2021 2:46 PM  

RC wrote:Paul wrote, "As far back as I can see, all generations have been equally promiscuous, equally greedy and selfish, and that is my own starting point looking back."

It's a big mistake to form your historical perspective anecdotally...

I disagree with that as a blanket statement. Isn't all history fundamentally anecdotal in the sense it is someone's story or someone telling the story of an event, even if they claim to be reporters (modern) or scribes. Letters and other correspondence, which are definitely anecdotal, are a major source of historical understanding. That doesn't invalidate the usefulness no matter how we have currently come to rely on what we call "data" even though that has been brought into question by recent revelations of how common are doctored sources. What we know about ancient history comes from the surviving writings that are mostly biographical, observational, or correspondence, which are really anecdotal, but we don't deny, for instance, Caesar's Gaelic Wars as history and a major source of our understanding of that period. We just take into account the source and its prejudices.

Blogger SirHamster March 02, 2021 3:36 PM  

Lee wrote:The "Greatest Generation" let their kids be drafted and sent to a war in a far land. "Boomers" stopped that so it wouldn't happen to their kids.
Boomers protested Vietnam so they wouldn't have to go.

Then they sold their children into cultural slavery and wasted their children's birthright.

Sexual perversion is worse for kids than getting drafted for war.

Blogger RobertT March 02, 2021 3:53 PM  

Why does anyone feel the need to eviscerate themselves on the horns of vox's wit?

Blogger Newscaper312 March 02, 2021 4:22 PM  

@Lee
Re Vietnam Draft.
Boomers didn't stop it.
Richard Nixon did.
He correctly judged that anti-war protests would go poof as soon as he ended the draft.
So much for the Boomers unique claim to the moral high ground.
Vietnamization was already underway w Nixon turning Abrams loose to undo LBJ and Westmoreland's stupidity, so mass numbers no longer needed.

Blogger CF Neal March 02, 2021 4:32 PM  

@64. Great challenge RE: "Music Appreciation"!

I've added to my list several among these comments.

Except by experience, tastes of music seem unaccountable.

Blogger SacrificialLamb March 02, 2021 5:28 PM  

Repent, Boomer.

Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 5:34 PM  

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The good news is there are, in my estimation, enough Xers to put the ship right. But we're going to be down to critical systems only before we bottom out (I expect what the Texans went through the last two weeks will become the norm), and the ship will be A LOT smaller when we come out of this, but I have confidence that we have the resolve, discipline, and most of all love for our children to give them a future


I don't think the ship will be smaller, but the crew will be, and the warship is going to cease being used as a passenger liner, running on funny money.

Blogger A trite re-white March 02, 2021 5:50 PM  

Going by this, my mom has much to answer for.

Blogger eclecticmn March 02, 2021 5:55 PM  

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Blogger Gator McCluskey March 02, 2021 6:31 PM  

It's amazing that no matter how many times it's repeated on these boomer posts, that it's about behavior, not birthdate, we STILL have butthurt boomers jumping in to defend their g-g-g-generation.

Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 6:50 PM  

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That’s what boomers cost my generation. Traditional and elderly wisdom. How does one build up when we are stuck reinventing the foundation?

Old books.

Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 8:35 PM  

@54 bad wolf

mom•ism (ˈmɒm ɪz əm)

n.
undue dependence on maternal protection resulting in loss of maturity and independence.
[coined by U.S. author Philip Wylie (1902–71) in A Generation of Vipers (1942)]


https://www.thefreedictionary.com/momism

Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 8:43 PM  

Didas Kalos wrote:Once he said 'I can't believe I'm 40. And these girls are like 19 or 21. And they were. He thought that they thought he was attractive.

What do we call this generation?



Strauss and Howe classify GenX as being the "nomad" generation in their 4-generation model of historical cycles. And even the most stable of my generation, that description most certainly fits. I don't know about previous "nomad" generations, but I can assure you that we're nomads because the legal climate is specifically stacked against stability for us and younger generations, with GenX hit the hardest, because the Boomers, being a "Prophet" generation, have always keen to fix everybody's household except their own.

Blogger eclecticmn March 02, 2021 9:23 PM  

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Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 9:39 PM  

>> The "Greatest Generation" let their kids be drafted and sent to a war in a far land. "Boomers" stopped that so it wouldn't happen to their kids.

>> For heavens sake, quit whining.


If those who served in WW2, tremendous numbers were volunteers, and far more served 2 Europe than in the Pacific and China-Burma-India. Those two theaters combined, had as many personnel (if you put all of the navy, Marines, and Army Air into one unified organization) as two or 3 field armies (XXXX size designators) (about 6~9 corps, XXX size designators)), or about one Army Group (XXXXX size designators). Europe had multiple American Army Groups (For example, 1st US Army Group, AKA FUSAG). One of his subordinates, Gen Patton, commanded 3rd Army. In N. Africa, Patton commanded II Corps (2nd Corps).

The American Legion was founded on a similar idea as the Union Army Civil War Veterans' association, the Grand Army of the Republic (AKA G.A.R.)

When the WW2 vets came home, the American Legion wouldn't let them join.

Can you Guess the name of the veterans' service organization founded by and for WW2 vets?
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The Veterans of FOREIGN WARS.

Now, many Boomers claimed they were protesting against the Vietnam War(*), but they were really just protesting against the existence of the draft during war-time -- as demonstrated by the fact that further protests against U.S. armed forces being involved in Vietnam disappeared as soon as the decision was announced to abolish the draft.

The WW2 generation VOLUNTEERED IN DROVES for a mish-mash of half a dozen wars of which the U.S. was engaged from 1941-45. What is now known as WW2 was a collection of wars, about 2 dozen in total, but which could arguably include a half dozen more if the beginning wasn't arbitrarily set as Sept 1, 1939, but instead was moved back to the beginning of the various Italian adventures in Africa, Japan's military ID annexations of Korea and Manchuria (Manchoko), and the 2 Russo-Japanese flashpoints:. The Siberia/Manchoko border, and Sakhalin Island (The peace treaty for the latter was signed in the VA late 1990s, this formally concluding the final, as-of-then still open chapter of WW2.)
(Part 1 of 2)

Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 9:39 PM  

(Part 2 of 2)
As far as Boomers being concerned about their kids being drafted. I remember the early 90s, with the rise of misery-induced Grunge music, and all of the Boomer music critcs befuddled about how such dispair filled lyrics would be so popular with what is now known as GenX, when there was a hot economy [for Boomers], no war [for Boomers], and no draft. They completely missed GenX's literal aborted siblings and the number of neighborhood public schools shut down for lack of students [Boomers having abortions], an economy that sucked for GenX, younger high school, college, and university instructors in the humanities blatantly lecturing and grading on the basis political opinions, rampant illegal immigration with nobody doing anything about it, declining real wages (for GenX) even as Boomer real wages were skyrocketing, bidding up prices for everything, aggravated by factories beginning to be shut down (relocation to China) and many entry level jobs for high school kids being unavailable due to Boomers KNOWINGLY
hiring illegals from Mexico and points south.

(*) There was a very GOOD reason to protest American ground units being sent to Vietnam, even for the most fervent anti-communist, such as myself(**) -- no nation can ever win another nation's civil war. For example, if German or British troops had intervened in the French Revolution, regardless of the outcome, neither country would have, nor even could have, ever actually gained anything for the blood and treasure which they would have spent on a French adventure during this time.

** A sentiment which has grown even stronger as I grow older, having witnessed the blooming of vast amounts of previously unrealized potential which was suppressed under the communist system, in Russia, having first visited there in the mid-1990s, and from talking with many who came here from Warsaw Pact nations.

Blogger Akulkis March 02, 2021 9:42 PM  

>> This will be kind of unrelated from everything else, but I was born in late 1982, so I could qualify as either gen X or gen Y/millennial.

You would have not graduated from college yet when the Pentagon and World Trade Center were attacked. That makes you more likely to be a Millennial.

Blogger Lee March 02, 2021 10:11 PM  

"it's repeated on these boomer posts, that it's about behavior, not birthdate"

Because "boomer" is a generation, no matter how arbitrarily and silly defined. "Generation" is by definition about birth dates. That is what is so Intellectually stupid about the whole concept. Generations are intermixed,the current president predates so called boomers.
Its all so dumb...

Blogger eclecticmn March 02, 2021 10:15 PM  

75. AkulkisMarch 02, 2021 6:50 PM
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That’s what boomers cost my generation. Traditional and elderly wisdom. How does one build up when we are stuck reinventing the foundation?

Old books.


True but culture is harder to rebuild. Thomas Sowell observed decades ago that darker skinned blacks in NYC made more money than lighter skinned blacks. Turns out they were recent immigrants from Dominican Republic from crappy farms. They had worked hard and had intact families. Not yet corrupted by US culture and welfare.

Dr. Theodore Darryrimple worked with the insane in British prisons long ago. He observed back then that there were proportionally more insane white inmates than Paki inmates, considering the population as a whole. Whites had been corrupted by welfare for generations. The newly arrived Pakis had intact families and worked hard.

It is hard to undo all the corruption with book learning. If you have been raised screwed up it is possible to correct it intellectually but very hard.

I don't know what the culture in country X is, but tearing that culture down is not a good idea. I loath Islam but it provides a social cohesion.

Long ago late at night I listened to Michael Savage while driving. He talked about his stupid poodle then his meat ball recipe then he went into a rant. He said that Arabs hated US culture because they did not want their daughters to turn into sluts like Britney Spears. That corruption is hard to undo.

Blogger V.F. Minion March 02, 2021 10:17 PM  

Wonderful post. God bless you sir.

Blogger Snidely Whiplash March 02, 2021 10:33 PM  

Lee wrote:Because "boomer" is a generation, no matter how arbitrarily and silly defined. "Generation" is by definition about birth dates. That is what is so Intellectually stupid about the whole concept. Generations are intermixed,the current president predates so called boomers.

Its all so dumb...

God's least favorite idiot Boomer, back to demonstrate his inability to think beyond his preconceptions.
You just have your prepared response. When people who are smarter than you shove it back in your face, you pull out the "IT'S A GENERATION, THEREFORE YOU ARE INSULTING ME."

Stop being a gamma bitch.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants March 02, 2021 11:34 PM  

To be honest, us older GenXers shouldn't be fully off the hook, either. My kids are Millennials, I have grandchildren.
I feel like I've been fighting on their behalf for decades, but have I really done all I could have? Probably not.
I don't want to be let off the hook with cry baby excuses. Every mistake made was fully made by me, in raising my children.
Period.

Blogger ml chemist March 02, 2021 11:39 PM  

eclecticmn wrote:Part I. Boomer here.

You didn't have to tell us.

eclecticmn wrote:Further to @73

part 2 boomer.


TWO PARTS. What have you even said? 15 fucking minutes of text. I'll point out two things: First, a key hallmark of boomer lectures. Second, some editing to cut to the heart of the matter.

eclecticmn wrote:Further to @73

part 2 boomer. Born mid 1950s. I will. I have. I never.

My parents.

I married. I was,I married. I had. I changed. I spent, I saw. I was not. I did. My wife.

"I had no idea."

My family. My ex. My son. I never knew. I thought. My ex.

My son. I came home. I made it very clear.

I did not know what to say. I was shocked.



Here's the help.The only part that actually gets to the heart of the matter is what you wrote below.It practically stands on its own.


You never know the back story on people. I recall learning of the upbringing of some psycho, perhaps Charles Manson. I wept.

[...]there may be significant payback yet for selfish boomer parents. Later, grass may not grow on their graves.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 03, 2021 2:53 AM  

Once-saved-always-saved is a miserable heresy. For the (literal) love of God, Boomers, use the internet. It is not hard to find these things.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 03, 2021 2:55 AM  

Many will call Him “Lord,” but He will say to them, “I know thee not.”

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 03, 2021 2:58 AM  

BOOM

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 03, 2021 2:59 AM  

The Boomer mind, like
King Midas, finacialized everything.

I know some extremely wealthy Boomers, money managers and the like. None of them have a clue what true wealth is.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella March 03, 2021 9:12 AM  

Why do Boomers keep thinking they will have graves? Proper Christian ones, with grass and a headstone? Why? Is it because they want to star in their own television show, one with a crowd at the graveside, holding up umbrellas as the sky weeps the for the loss of this human life?

From what I've seen from the local old folks housing development, they mostly don't trust anyone to their remains. They sign up for cremation. And that's when things get interesting: someone has to pick up the remains from the crematorium. In a jarring number of cases, there's no one left alive: their one child is dead- overdosed- or won't speak to them- divorce. There are old, old, old people shipping boxes of ashes from one house to another, and no one even remembers who they are.

They've resorted to hiring people to dump their ashes out into the ocean in a respectful, non-denominational manner.

Blogger wgmeisheid March 03, 2021 9:25 AM  

If you are going to make an argument using the Bible, please quote it honestly.
T.L. Ciottoli wrote:Many will call Him “Lord,” but He will say to them, “I know thee not.”
You twisted the text to support your argument against "once saved, always saved" which is a form of blasphemy.

The actual text from Matthew 7:23 says "Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’"

There I fixed it for you and poked a giant hole in your argument. If someone were really saved, then they are known by Jesus Christ. He knows his own. John 10:14, "I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me." Therefore he can never say, "I never knew you."

Think on that for a while.

Blogger SirHamster March 03, 2021 5:11 PM  

wgmeisheid wrote:There I fixed it for you and poked a giant hole in your argument. If someone were really saved, then they are known by Jesus Christ.
He's making a point about "Once saved always saved" that you miss.

There are people who think they are known by Jesus who are not. His name is on their lips, but they are known as evildoers.

This is a warning for us to test ourselves and accept suffering. Relentlessly do good despite discouragement; flee all evil.

We will know we belong to Jesus if the World hates us like it hated Him. If Jesus's enemies identify us with Him and reject us for our purity and goodness, then we can be sure Jesus knows us and our deeds.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 04, 2021 6:08 AM  

wgmeisheid wrote:You twisted the text to support your argument against "once saved, always saved" which is a form of blasphemy.

Those two posts were not related. For some reason the quotation function on Blogger did not work, so you could not see the specific comments I was replying to. They were separate responses to two different posts.

Despite the two posts not intentionally being related, yes, that Bible verse can be used to make a case against once-saved-always-saved. There are numerous other quotes from Holy Scripture which explicitly warn the faithful about losing their salvation.

2000 years of writings from the Fathers, from Holy Tradition, numerous verses from Holy Scripture, and also the teaching of any and all Christian sects which have any serious historical claims to Apostolic Succession (Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Armenian Orthodox, etc.) show clearly that once-saved-always-saved was never taught and it has been renounced as a heresy straight from the mouth of hell.

2000 years of established teaching on that one. Use the internet, go find out. Godspeed.

Blogger Joerg F. March 08, 2021 3:52 PM  

"never been born"

Yes, I, too, wish I had never seen this shitty world, that I would never have to live this crappy life I was forced into, full of mental illness. Jeremiah 20:14-18. Paul had enough too, as we read in Philippians 1:21-23. Our origins are a slap in the face anyway, we are entering the world through organs that are used to get rid of bodily waste -- urine. Only an imbecile would praise this, no wonder people lie to children about where they come from. This is a joke. And then people even praise those who act on their lowly, animalistic desires.

Blogger Joerg F. March 08, 2021 3:55 PM  

Who cares. Yet you live happily while most people are damned for eternal torture, or what? I don't care about the Church fathers much anyway, what with all their disagreements and low intellectual prowess. Kierkegaard was more honest in this regard, and a lot more intelligent than the fathers.

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