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Thursday, March 18, 2021

Tucker 1, US Military 0

Kurt Schlichter observes that a military incapable of defeating a single talking head is unlikely to fare well against the Chinese military.

Let’s understand something – the military has been running on empty for a long time. Thirty years ago right now, I was in Saudi Arabia in the wake of the Gulf War, the high point of American power. The military was rebuilt by visionaries who embraced high standards and focused on warfighting rebuilt the devastated post-Vietnam military and proved the concept in those sands by annihilating a relatively powerful nation’s entire force in six weeks of air war and 100 hours of ground war. We were not woke. We were not politically correct. We were just unbeatable.

Fast forward to 2021, as our military is are still chasing bandits around the Hindu Kush, as our forces still in Iraq are still getting rocketed and as we are still pouring troops into Syria for some damn reason. The Chinese are eating our lunch in the Western Pacific, but our military leadership pretend it’s 1945 and that the U.S. is still dominant. It thinks we’re unbeatable, but there’s no Chester Nimitz out there, and the Chinese are deadly serious, even as our leadership pretends boys can become girls and that paying for their snip surgery will make us more combat-ready.

When the Chinese choose to do it, they will take Taiwan. They will screen their flanks by wiping out our regional bases and they will sink every U.S. ship within range that hasn’t already been knocked out of action by colliding with a cargo boat. By the way, read the investigation of the utter incompetence and total failure of leadership that led to those two devastating and fatal collisions in recent years. Sickening – a total failure of leadership starting at the top.

The Chinese are a serious military, devoted to one thing: winning the coming war against the United States. Our military leadership is not serious. It has lost its edge and devoted itself to social experimentation while cheerleading itself into thinking everything is A-okay. It’s not.

This comes from the top, but unfortunately the commander-in-chief is busy with a Matlock marathon while the people pulling his puppet strings are interested only in ensuring that the military is fully absorbed into the ranks of the woke institutions. How can you expect a civilian leadership in China’s pocket to prep to fight it?

Even worse, the Trostkyites running the current Not-Administration are desperately trying to launch their revenge war against Russia, which has already withdrawn its ambassador to the United States in response to the neoclowns' latest diplomatic catastrophe while their puppet government in Afghanistan collapses.

I may or may not be correct about the 2033 collapse of the political union, but regardless, I see zero chance the United States makes it to 2040 intact.

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149 Comments:

Blogger Brian D. Kennedy March 18, 2021 10:16 AM  

Some in the US military and its associated think tanks have known of our increasing vulnerabilities for a few years now. For those who haven't already seen the article:

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2021/03/us-will-lose-fast-in-war-with-china-air-forces-simulation-shows-report/

Blogger Karen took the Kids March 18, 2021 10:18 AM  

I have limited knowledge of the US military but I have read David Hackworths books and they track the decline from the end of WW2 right up to Vietnam. The deterioration of leadership is well laid out chronologically if anyone is interested. He saw this shit coming in the late sixties.

Blogger Tars Tarkas March 18, 2021 10:29 AM  

Kurt may be a good partisan, but I am done voting. Voting only encourages them.


Frankly, the military does not need to be "fixed," it needs to collapse. We waste a trillion dollars a year maintaining an enormous standing military to keep the sea lanes open so globohomo can ship goods from cheap markets to expensive markets.


The height of US military power was not 1991. Kurt's insane on that little tidbit. The height of US military power was at the close of WW2. The only nuclear power on the planet and dozens of carrier groups. 65k planes. Tens of thousands of tanks and 10 million plus men in uniform.

Blogger Harambe March 18, 2021 10:29 AM  

Don't China and Russia have some sort of (admittedly uneasy) mutual defence agreement? Or are they trying to make themselves out to be the good guy riding to the aid of their northern ally? Or is it that if the US and Russia fight, China thinks it can rule the burning trash heap that will be left?

Blogger pyrrhus March 18, 2021 10:34 AM  

Indeed, Kurt Schlichter is far too optimistic about ever righting the ship..The US military has been hostile to Christians since at least WW2, and the corruption in military procurement has been steadily growing since the War of Northern Aggression...

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 18, 2021 10:40 AM  

...two devastating and fatal collisions in recent years. Sickening – a total failure of leadership starting at the top...

In one of those accidents, Latisha, on the Bridge, and Shaquanda, in the CINC, werent on speaking terms. So men died.


Blogger George D. March 18, 2021 10:43 AM  

Hopefully the EU disintegrates much faster. Currently we are worse off than people were in the Soviet Union in the 80s.

Blogger DrivingDissent March 18, 2021 10:45 AM  

Weakness invites aggression. Xi would be foolish not to exploit this narrow window to take Taiwan. Narrow becouse somethings is going to fill the power vacuum left by the United States faltering.

Blogger David March 18, 2021 10:52 AM  

I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?

I am not sure our military capabilities actually matter under Biden in regards to Taiwan. I think that will probably fall under political will, especially if we get more tangled with Russia

Blogger basementhomebrewer March 18, 2021 11:04 AM  

The coming military defeat is still going to stun people. When I discuss our military weakness with your average person on the street I find they have inserted their heads deep into the sand. They see the rot but always respond with "what country is better" or "we have technology that people don't know about". It's pathetic magical reasoning.

The military now takes every opportunity to toot its horn about the weapons systems they are developing. Most of which work half as well as advertised. If they have something in the bag on the kinetic side it better not take very many people to deploy effectively.

I even had one person who understands unrestricted war claim that we are waging it back, in secret and more effectively. This despite the glaring Chinese hands in everything from fentanyl to corporate espionage to obviously bought pols at the highest levels in our government. If we are giving it back to them better, they sure are good at hiding how much we are hurting them.

Blogger qualitycontrol March 18, 2021 11:08 AM  

I find him quite dangerous as he beats the drums of war himself. He just wants to reform the military because he seems to be aware that the american woke military is unable to beat any serious nation that has the ability to shoot down their airplanes/missiles.

Blogger Parallax March 18, 2021 11:09 AM  

From my moderately elevated perch for the USN, Mr. Schlichter is correct like so many other Nehemiahs calling to rebuild the walls. Unfortunately, family, friends and acquaintances in the O-6+ range are generally woke on a Grammy level.

Blogger RandyJJ March 18, 2021 11:18 AM  

@3 Tars Tarkas
Kurt may be a good partisan, but I am done voting. Voting only encourages them.

If you mean voting for Republicans, fine. If you mean voting in general, then... the stupidity burns. Do you think the ruling Uniparty would find it "encouraging" if every person who didn't vote instead voted for a third party? Non-voters are a voting bloc bigger than either D or R.

Blogger Matt March 18, 2021 11:26 AM  

I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?

This is one of those things where the answer is "it depends". Our navies have different purposes. Ours is to project sea power globally. Theirs is to win a fight around Taiwan. They can't do what we can do globally, but if the actual conflict is "a fight around Taiwan", well, that's a different story.

Blogger Barbarossa March 18, 2021 11:26 AM  

Alas, this garbage is ubiquitous throughout the military. Sad to say, squatting in my inbox a few weeks ago was an invite to attend the upcoming Women, Peace & Security Conference at the Naval War College. Deleted unread. Simply don't want to know.

When I was in Djibouti, a 5K was held in honor of all the women who had died in combat (1 per kilometer, so I suppose it was fitting). I pretty much ran every 5k (free t-shirts!) on base, but when my O-6 boss demanded 100% participation in this particular outing, I begged off with an ankle injury. When he observed that I seemed to be moving around pretty well, I said, "I can fix that."

I started my military career right before this stuff began to pick up speed, thinking I was a part of the greatest Navy the world had ever seen, and I ended it with women demanding that their pitiful random casualties be afforded the same tribute for those who fell at Monmouth or Chickamauga or Argonne or Peleliu. I could discourse at great length about the evils of having women in the military in anything other than an auxiliary function with observations based on direct experience, but I'll spare you the TLDR.

Blogger Mamabear37 March 18, 2021 11:27 AM  

*commander-in-theif.

Blogger justaguy March 18, 2021 11:41 AM  

Just to note: that height of military power in the ME-- we didn't accomplish most of our important objectives because of the ineptness of our leadership (General S and above). We let the bulk of the Republican Guard go, allowed helos, and still were idiotic enough to use the Presidents voice to ask for a rebellion that was then put down harshly. some peak of power....So here we are now and we still haven't recovered from that Bush/Powell screw-up.

Blogger KingKrawFish March 18, 2021 11:42 AM  

Shanghai Cooperative Organization

Blogger Azimus March 18, 2021 11:42 AM  

I expect China WILL make the first move, and it won't be some strategic slap on the wrist that Japan gave us in 1941. I think they will learn from Japan's mistake - in fact they already have.

Japan was driven to attack out of desperation due to embargos, diplomatic isolation. The friendless Japan needed resources and their pan-Pacific attack in 1941 was designed to capture what they needed to secure a first rate power status, no more.

In 2021, the opposite is true. China has bought up resources everywhere, is making friends everywhere, while the US is being isolated.

China has our entire populace addicted to cheap shit, and Americans would rather see their neighbors' lives ruined so they can have that $9 toaster and basketful of cheap throw-away tech gadgets coming from China. Americans could've made those, but you couldn't have put as many on your credit card before maxing it out.

I'm sure China is also one of the more clever parties exacerbating internal strife in the United States, so we are as politically paralyzed and divided as say France was in 1939 (which was also due to Communist agitation). France was given what, 8 months before the real shooting started to prepare and they still got their butts kicked.

We are fast becoming a combination of France 1940 internally and Japan 1941 externally, and China is playing an important part in both. If China chooses to start the shooting, its going to be ugly for the US. If the US chooses to start the shooting, its going to be ugly for the US.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 11:46 AM  

Watched a feller on YouTube last night called Prepper Nation. The theme was the parallels between the fall of Rome and America's present state.
He quoted a German historian (never got his name) who identified the 3 main reasons for the fall of Rome. These were:
Homosexuality
Bankruptcy
Corruption

There were many other similarities but he emphasised these 3. He (Prepper Nation) said the US was not going to make it to 2050 as a state.

Blogger Derangement Syndrome March 18, 2021 11:48 AM  

You're wrong actually, and Kurt is correct. After WW2 the Soviet Union was a growing Super Power, in 1991 the United States was the ONLY Super Power. The early 1990's were the US military zenith, we had no competition then.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 18, 2021 11:50 AM  

I dont think the people running things are even real. Just as much actors as the Resident.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 18, 2021 11:54 AM  

I skimmed the reports for the ship collisions, I seriously doubt those two antiseptic reports would note anything un-PC. My guess the women on board were teats on a boar useless at best. As is noted most Americans are heads in the sand and I always go back to Gunny Ermey's OOORAH episodes on the Makin Island and in the background for nearly every camera shot was a tubby woman sailor. My guess is that a ship that took Forrestal level of damage would just sink since half the damage control effort would be to either shove out of the way Panicky Penelope or most effort would be in trying to move up a ladderwell Ample Annie.

And for the Wunderwaffen groupies that crap is more magic thinking than Willy Wonka's factory.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 11:56 AM  

As for the military, any military, their primary task must always be to prepare for the nastiest, most awful endeavour humans engage in, which is war.
As dugout Dug once opined: in war, there is no substitute for victory.

Blogger Elder Son March 18, 2021 11:59 AM  

I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?

What you have heard, is: USA! USA! USA! While AmeriKa has become a habitat of demons before our very eyes.

Last I heard, the Chinese Navy is now bigger than our Navy. Well, except for "tonnage".

Because tonnage always wins sea battles! Not weapons systems, not the men behind them.

Meanwhile, while AmeriKa's military is going full on gender queer bending in its ranks, China is cultivating masculinity within theirs.

When you think AmeriKan military, think HoloJoe AmeriKa.

And never forget this, get it in your skulls. There are people in your government, media, entertainment, etc., that have a love affair with China, and believe that Dragon System is the template for a New World Order.

Blogger Taqiyyotomist March 18, 2021 12:02 PM  

"Relatively powerful" is a strange way to describe the Iraqi forces. Relative to what?

Blogger Pathfinderlight March 18, 2021 12:04 PM  

The next war America needs to be concerned about is the next civil war. Globalist Dems understand this. That's why they're gutting the military's ability to conduct foreign wars and pushing their evil religion in the officer corps. The new enemy is the American people, so the tool has to be changed to fit that need.

Blogger kurt9 March 18, 2021 12:08 PM  

The Chinese Navy is less developed than ours. But they do not need parity to defeat us in the Western Pacific. They are playing defense in that they want to deny us access to the Western Pacific (around Taiwan and China itself). They have neither the capability nor the desire to control the Eastern Pacific or actually invade and occupy the U.S. itself. The Chinese have two military objectives. One is to keep any other military away from China and its neighborhood, which is essentially defensive. The other is to ensure that shipping between resource locations (Middle-east, Africa) and China is not disrupted. One thing to note is that the Chinese are NOT investing in a large land army. They have no desire for large-scale conquest. They prefer to dominate by other means (economic, technological).

Thus even with an inferior navy, backed by ballistic and hypersonic missiles, the Chinese could easily defeat us in the Western Pacific. Thus we could loose WW3 with the Chinese and read about it on the internet, or even here on Vox's blog.

Blogger Swamp Fox March 18, 2021 12:20 PM  

Could a financial collapse escalate the 2040 political breakup? It seems our economy and our military are ready to fail.

Blogger Ahuehuete March 18, 2021 12:24 PM  

Never mind our military losing a war with China. During such a war all our supply chains would collapse. If you thought too many many things were back ordered last year (and sometimes for months) just wait. Best Buy will have to close its stores, since they have almost nothing to sell. You car needs a part? Out of stock and "back ordered". Now that will cause panic.

Blogger MichaelJMaier March 18, 2021 12:25 PM  

The tech can be great. We have terrible PEOPLE. Didn't a Navy vessel CRASH because two cunts were having a hissy fit and wouldn't speak to one another?

Blogger drsmith48167 March 18, 2021 12:27 PM  

Too many people assume our military is to be used to stop the Chinese. Nope, our military has been designed by the deep state & their Chinese minions to tie up Russia (the only real independent country left that could stop China and has the gravitas to do it) just long enough to let China have it's way in the East and where ever else China wants to play - Africa, anyone? With that regard, the US military is ideally suited to distract Russia just long enough and inflict just enough damage to make Russia think about taking on China at the same time....at least that is what the Chinese think & hope will happen. The upside to all this is that the US will finally come totally under China control as our conventual military will become devastated and utterly useless and the US government will beg for China intervention. The only thing our military will be good for is "keeping the peace at home"

As for the mutual assistance pact between China and Russia - yeah, it exists, but so did one between Germany and Russia before 1940....the Russians aren't dumb enough to fall for that again. In fact, I've been to Russia three times, and they are a proud people/culture. Moreover, they have had to live with and dealt with a lot of crap over the last 100 years...I think the West and China are counting too much on Russia not willing to go biblical on the entire world and basically going all World War 3 - meaning nukes. Russia would and could do it, and would survive. So will China - the West, not so much. China is playing a dangerous game, and one they will surely lose as it will do not good to 'own' the West if much of it is useless. I now see the reasons for that one think tank/future cast company that predicated the US population would be down to 100 million or so. Global world wars tend to eat up lots of people quickly.

Blogger Rick March 18, 2021 12:36 PM  

Hopefully, Space Force, as General Wictor envisions it (world wide cyber control), is the new American military where the non-woke are fleeing to from the woke/broke branches.

Blogger Mr. B.A.D. March 18, 2021 12:39 PM  

2040? I was thinking 2033 might be too optimistic the way things are going.

Blogger Emmanuel March 18, 2021 12:43 PM  

I might be too much into game theory, but I don't see any short term winning strategy for China from the moment Taiwan "magically discovers" its own indepedant nuclear deterrence (secretly controlled by the National China Strategic Forces command, based in a bunker close to the Potomac).

The only Chicom option is to wait until the woke cancer metastizes forward.

Yes, the military is rotting. No chicoms won't swim the Pacific ocean up to San Diego, even as they can easily sink any diversity ship in the way.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel March 18, 2021 12:47 PM  

I can't believe that they assigned a guy named "Stalker" to go after Tucker.

You can't make this sh** up.

I had a great Uncle who was a Marine in World War II. I expect to hear seismic rumbling where he was laid to rest twenty years ago this June.

Blogger Crew March 18, 2021 12:54 PM  

the Trostkyites running the current Not-Administration are desperately trying to launch their revenge war against Russia

This is going to be interesting. I will order more popcorn.

Blogger glueballs March 18, 2021 12:57 PM  

I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?

I have studied this area as a hobby since I was a child, and I have a good supporting background from my days as an engineer in the defense industry.
Their known submarine technologies are generally inferior by several generations, and their newer generation aircraft have comparatively inferior engines in terms of sustained thrust (engine will literally catch on fire after n seconds max), reduced life and higher maintenance cycles. In most other technical areas they are closing the gap or enjoy modest superiority insofar as the public disclosures are concerned.

New Chinese shipbuilding construction has better fit and finish than our Burke class but they are built to mere commercial standards and they will burn, melt and come apart more quickly. I was in Havana when their flotilla showed up for the first time in history, I inspected their lead destroyers, albeit first in type, up close and personal and, despite the distances covered, the hulls and superstructures looked brand spanking new and this wasn’t just a paint job. The sailors performed their calisthenics on deck and all were trim and fit.

I was impressed. Ignorant “journalists” catcalled the “primitive” aft radar “bedspring” antenna but I appreciated these were perfect wavelength and peak power for detecting reduced signature platforms such as anti-ship missiles, F-35s and San Antonio’s, inter alia and they supplemented clean AESA search and track antennas.

Then there is the massive Chinese merchant fleet which can be impressed into duty in a number of ways, observing and reporting, ordnance, missiles and torpedoes both direct launch and resupply, offboard targeting, radio hops, raiding parties, obstruction, minelaying, ramming, and landing craft. The nominal fleet exceeds 50,000 in number.

The Chinese are not creative with or using math unless they see how something works first, i.e., they are not originators, but once exposed to original development the top Chinese are vastly more facile with math than any other people I know other than some Japanese friends. This is from direct work experience and anecdotes.

Time could be on the Chinese side, but they have innate problems too. Our problem is that our rate of decline is likely more rapid than the Chinese rate of loss of will. 0.02

Blogger Unknown March 18, 2021 1:00 PM  

2033? I’ll be kind of surprised if the political union survives to 2023 at this point.

Blogger KingKrawFish March 18, 2021 1:00 PM  

Instead of talking about rebuilding or building up the US military so that it can defeat china in the South China Sea, Russia in Eastern Europe, and Iran/Persia in the Persian Gulf, as well as Maintaining hundreds of bases in scores of countries all over the world, these kind of commentators should be questioning the current purpose/mission of the Armed Forces.

Blogger tdcommenter March 18, 2021 1:01 PM  

@9 To gain their strategic objectives in the Pacific & shatter America's military reputation, they don't need to project power over long distances. They just need to sink enough ships.

Blogger tdcommenter March 18, 2021 1:02 PM  

The new woke military's enemy are those resistant to convergent & disloyal to the Prometheans.

Blogger Unknown March 18, 2021 1:04 PM  

The Marine commandant has already got rid of tanks, now he is getting rid of half his arty and attack aircraft because he has a dream of ocean going vessels no bigger than a WWII LCI, which will allow him to buy anti ship missiles to be pulled by mini hummers. Nether the ships nor the missiles are designed yet, much less built.

The missiles will be defended by Marines with rifles. No machine guns, because he already got rid of those.

He could just be stupid woke, but this level of dumb would also be explained if China was paying him tea money.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 18, 2021 1:23 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:The coming military defeat is still going to stun people. When I discuss our military weakness with your average person on the street I find they have inserted their heads deep into the sand. They see the rot but always respond with "what country is better" or "we have technology that people don't know about". It's pathetic magical reasoning.
I absolutely hate this line of reasoning.
It's a view of the military that is Q-like: "There's really secret competent leaders!" and "Patriots in control!" — despite literally decades of weeding out the competent and patriotic from leadership positions. (The reason I got out after nearly 10 years in was related to this.)

The military now takes every opportunity to toot its horn about the weapons systems they are developing. Most of which work half as well as advertised. If they have something in the bag on the kinetic side it better not take very many people to deploy effectively.
There's a reason for this: The military, being hijacked from doing anything even remotely related to serving the interests of the people of these united states is crippled in any "appeal to patriotism", and this only increases as the military is used to fight other people's wars on other continents while being forbidden from seeing that the law (esp. the Constitution) is upheld "at home".

I'm of the opinion that the latter is THE reason that suicides are so high in the military: you are told to uphold the Constitution, that you are fighting for the people of the US, and then when you see people in political power ignoring the Constitution and destroying the people and are told that you absolutely cannot DO anything "because politics" it's absolutely spirit- and heart-breaking.

As I've said many times: what we need are people in leadership who will do Justly, who love Mercy, and who walk humbly with Jesus — if we get people like that into office I believe that we will turn things around VERY quickly.

I even had one person who understands unrestricted war claim that we are waging it back, in secret and more effectively. This despite the glaring Chinese hands in everything from fentanyl to corporate espionage to obviously bought pols at the highest levels in our government. If we are giving it back to them better, they sure are good at hiding how much we are hurting them.
Bullshit.
If we wanted total war, we'd hit that stupid dam while it's full… wait a bit for the reactions, then attack on some other front.
For unrestricted warfare, we would have used Corona-chan as an excuse to close the borders to all trade and travel; this would:
1) Instantly drop the Trade Deficit to zero,
2) keep the US from feeding those that are against us,
3) encourage/stimulate domestic manufacturing,
4) hurt the multinational companies engaged in offshoring, and
5) force more job-openings domestically.

Parallax wrote:From my moderately elevated perch for the USN, Mr. Schlichter is correct like so many other Nehemiahs calling to rebuild the walls. Unfortunately, family, friends and acquaintances in the O-6+ range are generally woke on a Grammy level.
That is somewhat discouraging, nonetheless we should pray.

Blogger Jack Amok March 18, 2021 1:26 PM  

The Globalists are the worst sort of linear thinkers. They always believe they can change just the things they want to change and everything else will stay the same. It's a form of Dunning-Kruger hubris. They believe they understand how the world works and can manipulate it at will. But they are too stupid to realize how much they don't understand and how their changes have second and third or larger order effects.

Blogger GammaCatch March 18, 2021 1:42 PM  

I realized that the Military was FULL of Leftists in '06 or so. EVERY military guy I met was a commie. They'd come through the factory, fail out of the job over and over, and always talked Leftist drivel. Astoundingly stupid people, over and over again. I'd see them up at the bar after work too, but it was the older military guys, also Leftists. I knew I was in for a surprise eventually when I heard that women were OK'd for combat, that homosexuals were rampant, and that Muslims and other foreigners were all over the forces.

Blogger Sapper March 18, 2021 1:57 PM  

When my Soldiers kept screaming for all the new tech and spiffy holographic sights for their weapons, I made them continue to train under pressure with good ol' fashioned iron sights. If any weapon relies on a battery or separate power source, you were already a casualty. Maintain calm, control your emotion, zeroed sights, fresh socks and good boots win the War, not a drone piloted from half the world away...

Blogger stevo March 18, 2021 2:00 PM  

At the risk of seeming like a fool. I am very interested in the conspiracy theory that nuclear bombs are not really a thing. It seems hugely unlikely that they were only used once and are now a major factor in influencing public opinion. Feel free to show me why I'm wrong.

Blogger John Henry Eden March 18, 2021 2:00 PM  

Trotsky, born Lev Davidovich Bronstein. "Nuff said.

Blogger NewTunesForOldLogos March 18, 2021 2:03 PM  

A jogger with a heavy tree branch will beat an SJW with a taser, every time.

Blogger Jack Ward March 18, 2021 2:04 PM  

The Whatdoesitmean site saw fit today, in their daily posting, to point out how the Russian Ambassador to the US had been recalled. The reason for recall seems to be the US administration making provakative moves with nuck equiped war machines in Russia's direction. According to them Putin may be considering a surigical nuck strike followed by a demand that an outside party, them probably, would oversee a fair look at the last election with probably restoration of Trump.
The site has its moments for sure. I just hope, should Putin do this, that they leave Alabama alone. After all we did go for Trump.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother March 18, 2021 2:06 PM  

Meanwhile, Putin is pulling Biden's card.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 18, 2021 2:09 PM  

Brian D. Kennedy wrote:Some in the US military and its associated think tanks have known of our increasing vulnerabilities for a few years now.
They're lying to get more funding. Also, they're correct.
Karen took the Kids wrote:I have read David Hackworths books and they track the decline from the end of WW2 right up to Vietnam. ... He saw this shit coming in the late sixties.
The imperial military has been a peacetime military since the end of WWII. There hasn't been any existential threat, any defeat was just a reason for more funding.
Tars Tarkas wrote:Frankly, the military does not need to be "fixed," it needs to collapse.
What military has the ability to put troops in CONUS? Hint: it's not the Russian or Chinese.
Harambe wrote:Or is it that if the US and Russia fight, China thinks it can rule the burning trash heap that will be left?
This is my current guess.
David wrote:I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?
Behind us? or on a different path entirely? They absolutely cannot _yet_ do some of the things we can still do, but that may be because their strategy does not require it.
basementhomebrewer wrote:I even had one person who understands unrestricted war claim that we are waging it back, in secret and more effectively.
Wow. That's quite a fantasy. That's denial that could fill an Aswan dam.
Parallax wrote:Unfortunately, family, friends and acquaintances in the O-6+ range are generally woke on a Grammy level.
Woke on a Grammy level is the only path to O-6+.

Blogger Scott March 18, 2021 2:11 PM  

There is nothing worth defending in the US. There are no borders, Western Christianity has been appropriated by leftists, and our government hates its rightful citizenry. Why should I care about “losing” this bullshit to China?

Blogger L'Aristokrato March 18, 2021 2:12 PM  

Hah! As if China or Russia could ever hope to stand against the mighty strength of diversity!

Blogger bobby March 18, 2021 2:20 PM  

We won't lose a war to China over Taiwan. We won't enter into a war with China over Taiwan. We'll bluster a bit, maybe, but the Dems and Reps will simply decide that Taiwan really IS a part of China and not our business.

Why would we fight for others' liberty when we've abandoned our own? "Free Taiwan" is meaningless when the "Free" part is no longer a value here.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 18, 2021 2:25 PM  

...China has our entire populace addicted to cheap shit, and Americans would rather see their neighbors' lives ruined so they can have that $9 toaster and basketful of cheap throw-away tech gadgets coming from China....

which is the way pedophistic glibertarians want it.

Blogger Paulito March 18, 2021 2:25 PM  

@13 Hey, how'd that voting thing work out for you in 2020?

Blogger Canadian Warlord March 18, 2021 2:33 PM  

During the run-up to Trump / DPROK talks, military paid schills on the crap news finally let slip the word 'kinetic' weapons. Got to be space force, rods from god, etc. - keeping an eye on that artillery aimed at Seoul.

It's the kind of weapon however, that can only be used once. It's too easy to pollute space with sand and downstream debris from collisions. But the US would get one shot in that scenario. One chance to hit all the icbm silos, government buildings, naval yards, runways, etc. in a simultaneous first strike on one or more combatants. It would appear as nuclear war to first reports (as in "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" when the Loonies 'nuke' Saskatchewan).

Are there enough space planes in place over China and Russia? Probably not. Maybe a few decades more of military debt spending is required, given that the taxpayers were alerted only recently of their grandchildrens' future obligations.

Blogger Elder Son March 18, 2021 2:43 PM  

@33 Hopefully, Space Force, as General Wictor envisions it (world wide cyber control), is the new American military where the non-woke are fleeing to from the woke/broke branches.

Space Force Chief Releases New Video After Political Attacks Against Tucker Carlson Over Pregnant Women in Flight Suits Fighting Wars: On Thursday Command Senior Enlisted Leader of United States Space Command, Scott H. Stalker, attacked Tucker Carlson in an angry tirade saying, “Pregnant women are going to fight our wars.” Stalker then went on to link pregnant women to having a lean, ready and fit force — which made absolutely no sense.

Woke.

Blogger liberranter March 18, 2021 2:44 PM  

@25 Elder Son:

And never forget this, get it in your skulls. There are people in your government, media, entertainment, etc., that have a love affair with China, and believe that Dragon System is the template for a New World Order.

How anyone can NOT see this clearly is baffling, but Amoricons are peerless when it comes to rectal-cranial inversion.

This is indeed one message that needs to be turbo-rammed up Amoricons' collective arses, as well as down their throats at the same time.

Blogger Elder Son March 18, 2021 2:55 PM  

Bullshit.
If we wanted total war, we'd hit that stupid dam while it's full… wait a bit for the reactions, then attack on some other front.


USA! USA! USA!

US will ‘lose fast’ in war with China, Air Force’s simulation shows: “More than a decade ago, our war games indicated that the Chinese were doing a good job of investing in military capabilities that would make our preferred model of expeditionary warfare, where we push forces forward and operate out of relatively safe bases and sanctuaries, increasingly difficult,” Hinote said. “At that point the trend in our war games was not just that we were losing, but we were losing faster.”

Maybe we'll use are super-secret alien flying saucers with alien laser beam technology.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 2:57 PM  

@Kurt9

Whilst I agree with your assessment, an important factor in the coming conflagration will be about who controls the Indian Ocean. This is China's Achilles heel as its oil and commodity imports, as well as many of its exports, need to traverse this ocean.
The chinks are looking to build up Gwadar in Pakistan and a new port in Myanmar to circumvent this possibility, and especially India's potential, via Nicoman and Andaman islands, to block the strategic chokepoints of the Malacca and Lombok straits.

Blogger Cwyn March 18, 2021 2:59 PM  

IMO, America is going to be too busy with internal falling apart to care about the rest of the world. The next war won't see the US care. Let the annoying other kill each other over whatever. God knows Trump has proved we have no real allies, just parasite enthusiasts.

Blogger liberranter March 18, 2021 3:09 PM  

The only thing our military will be good for is "keeping the peace at home"

I'm not sure that it will be good for even that for very long. One that will happen VERY QUICKLY is that all of the obnoxious, idolatrous "God Bless the Troops" bullshit that we've been hearing since the 9/11/01 false flag operation will evaporate and very quickly morph into "spit-on-the-baby-killers" reminiscent of the later stages of the Vietnam War. Given that most of "the troops" and their families live among the rest of the population, becoming a soldier in an army of domestic occupation is going to be a losing proposition for most.

Blogger B.R. March 18, 2021 3:23 PM  

In 1941, the USA had very little ability stand up to Germany and Japan.

But within a few years, the USA was nuking Japan and crossing the Rhine.

Besides, China has no desire to get into a shooting war with the USA or Taiwan. They're already waging war against the West using other means, which are much more successful.

Blogger rumpole5 March 18, 2021 3:24 PM  

Re: "Voting only encourages them" Yes, I have pondered what to do with my vote. At one point some years ago I cast a vote for the Constitution party candidate rather than for Rubio. I like the idea of driving home the point that we aren't apathetic we just won't vote for the Potemkin Village that the Republican party has become.

Blogger Crew March 18, 2021 3:25 PM  

Perhaps the CoronaDoom virus is a conspiracy by the Chinese to get the not-Vaccines developed to kill off lots of Americans.

Then they can just walk in and take over.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 18, 2021 3:36 PM  

Emmanuel wrote:... but I don't see any short term winning strategy for China from the moment Taiwan "magically discovers" its own indepedant nuclear deterrence ...
Nobody ever talks about Japan in this. Japan is probably one long weekend from having nuclear weapons. Taiwan was part of Japan until the end of WWII, and Japan will have bigger, more immediate problems from an invasion of Taiwan than we will.

If China invades Taiwan, I would not be surprised to see nuclear sabre rattling from Japan shortly after. If China makes a credible threat to invade, Japan might make sure that Taiwan has a nuclear sabre to rattle. Suddenly Uncle Sammy's tranny navy becomes irrelevant.

Blogger awildgoose March 18, 2021 3:41 PM  

The WEF's social model for the NWO is inspired by China.

It's all in Schwab's book.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 3:43 PM  

An important point to note is that this upcoming war will not be exclusively between China/US. If/when China goes at Taiwan I believe Japan will have to get involved as whoever controls Taiwan controls Japanese access to the Pacific, and also there is a nasty history regarding Japan and China.
Australia will also probably get involved and, as I stated up thread, the Indian Ocean will also be a major arena of conflict.

Blogger megapotamus March 18, 2021 3:46 PM  

Schlicter is generally okay though still a civnat. I would make an appropriate comment over at Townhall but I was banned years ago for observing that neither Cruz nor Rubio were eligible for the presidency.

Blogger TheSavro March 18, 2021 3:50 PM  

The USA will certainly lose big in its next conflict with a peer military. The Chinese know that it doesn't have to defeat the entire US Navy, though it probably could with their hypersonic missiles. If they manage to destroy (or even just heavily damage) a single US aircraft carrier the USN will tuck tail and run.

If the Chinese manage to destroy US bases in Guam, Japan and elsewhere in the Pacific, the USA is finished as a superpower. And you know what? I say good, maybe then whatever countries emerge from the USA's balkanization can worry about their own shit for a change and not have to try and police the entire world.

Everyone complains that the USA is racist and doesn't do enough to help the rest of the world. Guess what? The Chinese actually ARE racists and don't give a shit about anyone that isn't Han. Their way is probably better though as they're the ones that are still going to have a country after all of this is over with.

Blogger Jeroth March 18, 2021 4:12 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:even had one person who understands unrestricted war claim that we are waging it back, in secret and more effectively. This despite the glaring Chinese hands in everything from fentanyl to corporate espionage to obviously bought pols at the highest levels in our government.

Sounds like something Thomas Wictor would argue.

Blogger Ingemar March 18, 2021 4:13 PM  

Our military is so pathetic that China could probably win by paying shitposters to harass tranny officers on social media.

Blogger van helsing March 18, 2021 4:17 PM  

it isn't that the Chinese would beat us. their sycophants here, and the yahoodi infiltrators here, would hand them every advantage they could. meanwhile, "Extremism and Corrosive Behavior Training" is cranking up here shortly.

Blogger Avalanche March 18, 2021 4:18 PM  

@50 "A jogger with a heavy tree branch will beat an SJW with a taser, every time."

Can I watch? I promise not lay bets; I'll just munch popcorn and giggle!

Blogger Tars Tarkas March 18, 2021 4:21 PM  

RandyJJ wrote:If you mean voting for Republicans, fine. If you mean voting in general, then... the stupidity burns. Do you think the ruling Uniparty would find it "encouraging" if every person who didn't vote instead voted for a third party? Non-voters are a voting bloc bigger than either D or R.

What? You gonna vote harder next time? Vote for Gary Johnson or whatever retard leftist the libertarians run? Green? The DSA? Constitution party?

If voting mattered, they wouldn't let you do it. We voted Trump and what did we get? We got massive crackdowns on the internet and daily briefings about how low black, Mexican etc unemployment is and prison reform, something every right winger was just dying to get.

The best thing about the Trump presidency was that he was not Hillary Clinton. In that sense, he was great. It was a 4 year break. But in the end, all of his policies are being reversed because he couldn't get anything except what the GOP wants, which is tax breaks for millionaires.

Go vote harder yourself.

Blogger Dafo March 18, 2021 4:22 PM  

Actually, if woke people want to be in the military so badly let’s send them all. One war, especially a defeat, will make America strong again.

Blogger mgh March 18, 2021 4:28 PM  

Stevo: Hiroshima/Nagasaki bombs created massive destruction. But there was no long term fallout and contamination making the area uninhabitable. Unlike the Chernobyl meltdown. Perhaps we really didn't drop nukes on Japan, we just faked it with really big bombs.

Blogger Autarky Bear March 18, 2021 4:29 PM  

I agree. 2033 is a good estimation. By 2040 the US in it's current political institution won't exist.

Blogger Tars Tarkas March 18, 2021 4:34 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:What military has the ability to put troops in CONUS? Hint: it's not the Russian or Chinese.

You might as well be saying that if the military was doing its job, wouldn't it be great.

The US military cannot just walk out of their bases and into the Continental US. (I am guessing that is what CONUS is) Even if they did, it would probably be to oppress us and make us trannies.

I say it needs to collapse because the US had a pretty weak and pathetic military in the 1930s. But because we were a healthy, prosperous and competitive nation, we were able to build up an enormous military in a pretty short period of time.

In the intervening years we have been bled dry running an empire. All of our productive capacity is gone. We built scores of aircraft carriers and the planes to put on them inside of 5 years in the 1940s. It takes like 7 years to build a single carrier. It is not merely because they are more complex systems. It is because we no longer have the productive capacity. We don't have trained workers. Hell, we probably don't even have the mining capacity to start building the kind of military we built in the 40s.

In such a complex thing like "the economy," it is difficult to say how much of this gets pinned on empire, but it's not zero and I think it is much higher.

Blogger Feather Blade March 18, 2021 4:49 PM  

Jack Ward wrote: According to them Putin may be considering a surigical nuck strike

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As long as the target is Washington DC while Congress is in session, I don't think most people would complain.

Except about the loss of the monuments and museums.

Blogger Frozen Territory March 18, 2021 4:54 PM  

China has invested heavily into submarines, mapping the seafloor between China and Taiwan, and better missiles and torpedoes. Their sailing ships may be junk, but I wouldn't want to be a Carrier anywhere near their coast.

Blogger wahr01 March 18, 2021 5:08 PM  

I could really care less about Taiwan at this point.

They have taken ALL of our jobs in silicon and been terrible at doing the jobs they've taken.

Taiwan has been a repeated weakness in supply chains for ages, be it hard drives, dram, or the recent crunch in cpus and video cards.

Having them finally bombed into the stone age as a prelude to invasion might actually result in repatriation of the capacity to manufacture the chips we use in our own smart bombs.

Blogger IAMSpartacus0000 March 18, 2021 5:14 PM  

David wrote:I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?

I am not sure our military capabilities actually matter under Biden in regards to Taiwan. I think that will probably fall under political will, especially if we get more tangled with Russia


Technically the use Military is ahead of China, but the geographic gap negates the technical advantage. Same with Russia. China has closed much of that technical gap as we have allowed them to duplicate our tec h or compromise the logistics for it.

The only option we would have for defeating China is to go total war and frankly everyone probably loses if that happens so we wont do it. This effectively means that it's all PR BS.

Our best bet would be to pull back and strengthen India, Japan, Australia to fill the gap and manage their own region. Hell Cambodia can beat China's ground game but China is wise not to face that fight and why would they. They don't need to.

Frankly, It's not the US's problem to worry about Taiwan. Taiwan needs to deal with their own issue. OR America just needs to embrace Imperialism and go Roman.

Blogger Bezzle March 18, 2021 5:24 PM  

Let’s understand something – the military has been running on empty for a long time. Thirty years ago right now, I was in Saudi Arabia in the wake of the Gulf War, the high point of American power. The military was rebuilt by visionaries who embraced high standards and....

...and that's enough of Schlesinger's Tom Clancy neocon knob-polishing of the MiC old-tech perma-war-in-sandtraps running scam.


@44. OneWingedShark March 18, 2021 1:23 PM
I absolutely hate this line of reasoning. It's a view of the military that is Q-like: "There's really secret competent leaders!" and "Patriots in control!" — despite literally decades of weeding out the competent and patriotic from leadership positions.

But somehow, mysteriously, our embarrassingly woke and seemingly incompetent "modern" military is not yet laying on the abyssal plain Exoceted full of holes. Why? Because they are longer relevant to contemporary theaters of operation as disparate as the blowing up of Cabal server-farms, the replacement of heads of state with body-doubles, and the control-filing of legislatures and national press corps.

Blogger Randomatos March 18, 2021 6:16 PM  

Hope is a poor substitute for planning and action. SF is just as pozzed as the rest, just as captured and converged. There is no one coming to save us - just us. Start thinking, planning, preparing, acting and living accordingly. Get in a good church, get fit, get your family out of the coming hot-zones.

Blogger Randomatos March 18, 2021 6:23 PM  

A lot of Armenians with good boots who died (and lost territory) to drone-strikes supporting ground forces this year might encourage you to embrace the power of "and."

Blogger eclecticmn March 18, 2021 6:23 PM  

I had the Useful Idiots youtube channel on in background. They are liberals but try to think for themselves. I don't think they ever bought the Russiagate hoax. It seems they were recently kicked off Rolling Stone for wrong-think on Syria. They may do shows from Syria, maybe with a Syrian local in a studio tun there? Stay tuned for that.Some good information may come from that source.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 18, 2021 6:31 PM  

Kek. Mr. Putin just challenged P(edophile)OTUS to a live debate within a couple of days.

Kek Putin just made Biden Putin's bitch.


Blogger A trite re-white March 18, 2021 6:41 PM  

God help us all.

Blogger Texas Arcane March 18, 2021 6:55 PM  

It is so much easier to destroy than to create. After a while, people like the globalists are so successful at wrecking things (always as a fifth column from the inside with trusted access) that they begin to assume that they are good at everything. Creation or real problem solving continue to elude them and it only drives them to ramp up their destructive efforts. So whereas building a nation like America is well beyond their capacity, it is rather simple using animal cunning to tear it down from the inside. I think the military is just one of the last things on their list to destroy in order to set up America for a humiliating defeat and gigantic genocide by the Chinese.

Blogger Newscaper312 March 18, 2021 7:41 PM  

People like to your hitting Three Gorges Dam as a total trump card, but it's not that simple because theres a very good chance they would consider that as a WMD equivalent attack and respond accordingly, us using conventional weapons or not.
Other than perhaps issues of "face" and acknowledging a weakness, I would almost think that would be a publicly stated policy.
Similar to the way some here have suggested we should have a similar policy about a large EMP or cyber attack on our power grid.

Blogger Black Bird March 18, 2021 7:49 PM  

The procurement process is a total joke.
I should know I’m involved in it. If it was fixed we could cut the budget by 20 percent and see no change.
The waste is unbelievable. The corrupt process to our bidding is sickening. The big defensive companies eat our lunch and dinner.
Example. Boeing why is there stock still at its current price even though they have lost billions.
Why!!! Because the government feels they must survive because of national security. Our number one plane manufacturer must be saved.
It’s all a game. We are the suckers.
Your tax dollars at work.

Blogger Sillon March 18, 2021 7:51 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:basementhomebrewer wrote:The coming military defeat is still going to stun people. When I discuss our military weakness with your average person on the street I find they have inserted their heads deep into the sand. They see the rot but always respond with "what country is better" or "we have technology that people don't know about". It's pathetic magical reasoning.

For unrestricted warfare, we would have used Corona-chan as an excuse to close the borders to all trade and travel; this would:

1) Instantly drop the Trade Deficit to zero,

2) keep the US from feeding those that are against us,

3) encourage/stimulate domestic manufacturing,

4) hurt the multinational companies engaged in offshoring, and

5) force more job-openings domestically.



You need to make a single basic question, how will this benefit the... (((Insert our best ally here)))

If you can't answer that question positively for them you know why it won't be ever done.

They have invested in China a lot of money and they think they can control it.

Blogger Noah B. March 18, 2021 7:51 PM  

Taiwan needs its own nukes if it's serious about remaining independent. So does Japan.

Blogger Pete March 18, 2021 7:57 PM  

When Christian chaplains in the military are harassed and denied promotion for providing Bible based counseling regarding the sin of engaging in homosexual actions; when pentagon-level senior military hacks go on social media to attack an opinion journalist for pointing out the insanity of the military wasting resources on "maternity flight suits"; when ROTC commanders think it is super-important to make male cadets wear womens high-heeled shoes while wearing the rest of their male military uniform and go walking in public to "show support for women in the military"; and the pentagon makes it official military policy to pay for delusional military members and their dependent family members to receive the dangerous hormone blocker/cross sex hormone and sexual mutilation butcheries....the military is no longer worth supporting.

I am so damned angry that I wasted 28 years of my life in uniform serving a country that no longer exists, and has been so easily replaced by a satanic marxist pedohomo neobabylonia. I actively try to persuade the young people I know to avoid the military and college like the plague, but to go to a trade school to learn a marketable skill without all the evil woketardness. They don't have to flush money down the indoctrinacademic toilet to read and learn from the great texts of Christian and Western philosophy.

May God have mercy on us all.

Blogger RedJack March 18, 2021 7:57 PM  

The marines are going away. They are also getting rid of the attack helicopter

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 18, 2021 8:00 PM  

B.R. wrote:In 1941, the USA had very little ability stand up to Germany and Japan.

But within a few years, the USA was nuking Japan and crossing the Rhine.

In 1941, the USA had factories. Today, China has our factories.

Blogger RedJack March 18, 2021 8:01 PM  

Use Duck Duck Go to find the shelf life of nuclear weapons. Now look at the typical maintenance needed to turn around the bombs. Then the source of the thorium.

We may have a few, but not a lot.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 18, 2021 8:10 PM  

Tars Tarkas wrote:The US military cannot just walk out of their bases and into the Continental US. (I am guessing that is what CONUS is) Even if they did, it would probably be to oppress us and make us trannies.
Exactly my point. Neither China nor Russia has the logistics to oppress us. There is only one military that does, and they do have many bases here.

Blogger Boaty Bear March 18, 2021 8:19 PM  

"Build back better"
or at least stop recruitimg the womens and the immigrantsis!

Blogger Yukichi Sensei March 18, 2021 8:45 PM  

I have a hard time refuting this. They look like a spell.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling March 18, 2021 9:09 PM  

@47 Sapper:

When my Soldiers kept screaming for all the new tech and spiffy holographic sights for their weapons, I made them continue to train under pressure with good ol' fashioned iron sights. If any weapon relies on a battery or separate power source, you were already a casualty.

Not that I disagree with your emphasis on iron sights, but what about ACOG scopes which for nightime use are powered by tritium? Another sign of how pozzed our military has become is that that their use of references to relevant Bible verses about light forced them to stop for units supplied to the government in 2010.

@69 Ominous Cowherd:

Japan is probably one long weekend from having nuclear weapons.

Not without a supply of weapons grade plutonium or uranium. Let the former brew in civilian reactors for much more than a month and it can't be used for this purpose.

@85 wahr01:

I could really care less about Taiwan at this point.

They have taken ALL of our jobs in silicon and been terrible at doing the jobs they've taken.


This is why TSMC has the very best logic fab lines in the world? Intel is destroying its ability to compete with anybody thanks to diversity. Back when AMD achieved supremacy with their K8 microarchitecture they as they always have throughout their history dropped the ball, spun off their fab lines, and GlobalFoundries has dropped out of the game, are now 100% dependent on TSMC. Samsung is the only other player and they have their own problems.

@94 Newscaper312:

People like to your hitting Three Gorges Dam as a total trump card, but it's not that simple because theres a very good chance they would consider that as a WMD equivalent attack and respond accordingly, us using conventional weapons or not.

Indeed, kill their people by the hundreds of millions and destroy so much of their productive capacity and it's worse than nuking a number of their cities.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 9:10 PM  

@Cwyn

Nations don't have permanent friends or permanent enemies, they only have permanent interests.

I think it was Anthony Eden who said this.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 9:16 PM  

@van helsing

The goods have already been handed over to Russia and China by Israel, in recognition that the US/West has been (((hollowed out))) and the future is Eurasia. Israel is positioning itself as the centre of this multi decade unfolding dynamic.
See the work of Brendon O'Connell.

Blogger Storm Rhode March 18, 2021 9:25 PM  

Exactly. It's about control and harvesting human livestock as many ways as possible. First get them to believe they're a blight on the planet instead of God's precious creations. Then guilt them into a slavery of their choice.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 9:28 PM  

@Sillon

Yes the (((friends))) of the West are moving East. Regarding their attempt to control China, this is why the 2003 Iraq invasion took place, and also the ongoing struggle in Syria. By creating a new country called Kurdistan, that sits astride the major transit route of the BRI into Europe, along with major pipelines of oil and gas, Israel intends to be a/the major player in the upcoming Eurasian superstate.

Blogger Bezzle March 18, 2021 9:31 PM  

@91. Troy Lee Messer March 18, 2021 6:31 PM
Kek Putin just made Biden Putin's bitch.

"Kek Putin", eh? Riddle this: Where was the WHO getting funding from after Trump pulled it? Take a wild guess.

Putin is not an ally because he is not the "anti-Globalist" that his thousands of 'net shills have been spamming non-stop for twenty years.

Blogger Storm Rhode March 18, 2021 9:36 PM  

The people in the USA were different then. They were scrappy city dwellers and strong, smart farm hands.

Blogger Newscaper312 March 18, 2021 9:42 PM  

@80 mgh

Yes they were real nukes.

1. They were small in the scheme of things by modern standards, much less 1960 standards when we had bigger nukes because of ICBM missile accuracy.
plus
2. Air burst generate a lot less fallout than ground burst or ground penetrating.

Blogger Storm Rhode March 18, 2021 10:34 PM  

Vox what's your take on the stimulus checks? You said we're in a deflationary situation. Do you think the checks are in response to that? Are they pushing for universal basic income?

As for the topic, diversity is the death of empires. The US is no different. Perhaps diverse barbarians will sack dc or portland.

Blogger English Tom March 18, 2021 10:47 PM  

@Bezzle

Re: Putin

A real Russian nationalist was former army general Alexander Lebed. He became a regional governor in Siberia. He died in a very convenient helicopter accident in the year 2000, thus clearing the deck in Russian politics of anyone real nationalists could rally to.

Blogger AzDesertRat March 18, 2021 10:55 PM  

I have a brother who is Army SF and another brother who is approaching 30 years in the Marines as an infantryman. Both have had multiple combat tours in all of America's 21st century battlefields, the public and not so public. Recently we got to talking and I asked both of them if they've ever trained to carry on combat operations without air support. My Marine brother was a hard no. My Army SF brother was a conditional no.
Point being - the US Military is so conditioned to having absolute air superiority in any AO it currently isn't conceivable that may not always be the case. The first time a near peer is able to establish air superiority, or even make the airspace above an AO contested, a huge portion of the current combat doctrine(s) is going to sail right out the window.

Blogger Black Bird March 18, 2021 11:03 PM  

Three Gorges Dam will fail one day. They may build a lot of stuff but it shortly falls apart
Why. Because most of it is built by prison labor.
And almost all of the Chinese building project around the world is prison labor.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 18, 2021 11:21 PM  

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:Not without a supply of weapons grade plutonium or uranium. Let the former brew in civilian reactors for much more than a month and it can't be used for this purpose.
Let me say it differently, then: if the Japanese do not have nuclear weapons nearly complete, it's a deliberate choice, not inability.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 19, 2021 12:11 AM  

Emmanuel wrote:I might be too much into game theory, but I don't see any short term winning strategy for China from the moment Taiwan "magically discovers" its own indepedant nuclear deterrence (secretly controlled by the National China Strategic Forces command, based in a bunker close to the Potomac).

The only Chicom option is to wait until the woke cancer metastizes forward.

Yes, the military is rotting. No chicoms won't swim the Pacific ocean up to San Diego, even as they can easily sink any diversity ship in the way.


China wouldn't be deterred by a handful of nukes. If Taiwan responds to conventional war with nuclear strikes against the mainland it would be a worldwide optics boon for the CCP. Not only would it not stop the invasion it would retroactively justify it. The CCP would use the millions of dead and milk that victimhood card for decades to come. Pretty sure Taiwanese leadership isn't stupid enough to do that even if it did have nukes.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 19, 2021 12:16 AM  

Newscaper312 wrote:People like to your hitting Three Gorges Dam as a total trump card, but it's not that simple because theres a very good chance they would consider that as a WMD equivalent attack and respond accordingly, us using conventional weapons or not.



That would definitely result in a full nuclear retaliation since it would kill tens of millions on the low estimate. This is probably why China probably isn't too worried about TGD being attacked since if war has escalated to that level it would be fully nuclear anyway.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei March 19, 2021 12:33 AM  

This

Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2021 12:34 AM  

>> 65k planes. Tens of thousands of tanks and 10 million plus men in uniform.

One Vietnam era A-10 could carry more dropable ordnance than an entire squadron of B-17's or B-24's, possibly even B-29's.


In the 8 years of USAF
and USN aviation involvement in the Vietnam war, the relatively few aircraft-years of service dropped more tonnage of bombs and other air-to-ground ordnance than ALL of the belligerents in the entirety of WW2.

Vietnam holds the record for the receiving the most aerial bombardment per square mile than any other war zone, and a close second in the most bombarded place on earth second only to the land within 2 miles of the Allied and German trenches in France during WW1.


Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2021 12:43 AM  

>> the corruption in military procurement has been steadily growing since the War of Northern Aggression.


You need to read up on the supply situation during the War for Independence (1785-1783).

If it wasn't for Russia's Catherine the Great, who sympathized with the colonists, and pressured the French into establishing diplomatic relations, AND heavily subsidizing French arms sales, we would still be part of the British Empire with Queen Elizabeth on our currency and COMPLETELY uncontrolled immigration by Indian and Pakistani retards.

Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2021 12:48 AM  

Chinese subs are extremely noisy. I wouldn't want to be on Chinese sub with orders to attack a U. S. carrier group. That would be a one-way mission with their propeller shaft bearings. Not sure how much cavitation noise their propellers make.

Blogger Akulkis March 19, 2021 1:19 AM  

>> Relative to what?

At the time that Iraq invaded the the feckless, welching, backstabbing emirate of Kuwait, Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world, and had just come out victoriously from a 10-year war started by their Iranian opponents.

The Emir of Kuwaiti asked Hussein to devote some forces to protecting Kuwait's border with Iran, spending blood and treasure in the process.

After the war ended, the Emir refused to pay Iraq for services rendered, overproduced above their OPEC quota when Iraq desperately needed oil revenues to rebuild the treasury, and to add insult to injury, the Kuwaitis (read British Petroleum) was slant-drilling from Kuwait into Iraqi oil fields.

Hussein gave them an ultimatum -- pay up and stop the slant drilling.

The Kuwaitis, with an army smaller than a battalion (< 600 personnel) told Hussein to perform autoerotic acts.

So he invaded.

Blogger map March 19, 2021 1:39 AM  

Modern science...

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-00728-2

Five reasons why COVID herd immunity is probably impossible

"It’s unclear whether vaccines prevent transmission
The key to herd immunity is that, even if a person becomes infected, there are too few susceptible hosts around to maintain transmission — those who have been vaccinated or have already had the infection cannot contract and spread the virus. The COVID-19 vaccines developed by Moderna and Pfizer–BioNTech, for example, are extremely effective at preventing symptomatic disease, but it is still unclear whether they protect people from becoming infected, or from spreading the virus to others. That poses a problem for herd immunity.

“Herd immunity is only relevant if we have a transmission-blocking vaccine. If we don’t, then the only way to get herd immunity in the population is to give everyone the vaccine,” says Shweta Bansal, a mathematical biologist at Georgetown University in Washington DC. Vaccine effectiveness for halting transmission needs to be “pretty darn high” for herd immunity to matter, she says, and at the moment, the data aren’t conclusive. “The Moderna and Pfizer data look quite encouraging,” she says, but exactly how well these and other vaccines stop people from transmitting the virus will have big implications."

Amazing. They've changed the definition of herd immunity. Furthermore, a vaccine is supposed to create a sterilizing immunity, where your body kills the virus. This is basically admitting that the vaccine just creates an asymptomatic super-spreader.

Blogger Josh Brown March 19, 2021 4:03 AM  

Currently there is no Commander-in-Chief of the US military. Heaven help us.

Blogger David March 19, 2021 4:33 AM  

That was my thought too.

Another thing cutting into China is their birthrate. It sounds like it will undercut their trajectory toward "super power ".

Blogger Jpc March 19, 2021 5:33 AM  

That's the kind of sarcasm that burns skin!
Like it!

Blogger Unknown March 19, 2021 7:24 AM  

In Detroit, the Muslim nurses at the Cobo Hall drive through site have been stealing the vaccine doses to sell them. So the army is ordering in 6,000 troops for the larger site they are opening at the football stadium.

Blogger Troy Lee Messer March 19, 2021 7:41 AM  

..Putin is not an ally because he is not the "anti-Globalist" that his thousands of 'net shills have been spamming non-stop for twenty years....

Ok Boomer.

Blogger FrankNorman March 19, 2021 8:07 AM  


At the risk of seeming like a fool. I am very interested in the conspiracy theory that nuclear bombs are not really a thing. It seems hugely unlikely that they were only used once and are now a major factor in influencing public opinion. Feel free to show me why I'm wrong.


For nuclear bombs to be a hoax, the following countries' national governments would all have to be in on that, with no one giving the game away:

USA
UK
France
Russian Federation
People's Republic of China
India
Pakistan
Israel
South Africa
North Korea

Not to mention Japan. Don't go telling them the bombs never happened.

As to why they were not used after WW2, same reason Mustard Gas hasn't seen use after WW1 - the threat of retaliation in kind.

Blogger megabar March 19, 2021 8:13 AM  

@13: If you mean voting for Republicans, fine. If you mean [stop] voting in general, then... the stupidity burns.

Agreed. People act as if voting replaces some other action you can take. Vote for the most aligned candidate you can find. If nothing else, they will slow the descent, giving like-minded people the time and space to organize better.

The only rational argument for not voting is that accelerationism is best. But I think people seriously misjudge the 'glory' of such things. If it happens, then yeah, deal with it. But don't rush to it.

Blogger Maniac March 19, 2021 9:21 AM  

"Could a financial collapse escalate the 2040 political breakup? It seems our economy and our military are ready to fail."

Covid was no accident. It was created to weaken, if not outright destroy, small businesses and overall morale. As someone else said, 2033 is generous.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 19, 2021 9:41 AM  

RadixMalorum wrote:The CCP would use the millions of dead and milk that victimhood card for decades to come. Pretty sure Taiwanese leadership isn't stupid enough to do that even if it did have nukes.
Where is the downside for Taiwan? Also, there are many around the world who would see millions of dead Chinese as a good start - most of Asia and Africa at least. The Victim Olympics is unique to the decadent West.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 19, 2021 9:50 AM  

Storm Rhode wrote:Vox what's your take on the stimulus checks? You said we're in a deflationary situation. Do you think the checks are in response to that? Are they pushing for universal basic income?
I'm curious about Vox's take, also. Here's mine.

The stimulus checks are a tiny piece of the deficit spending, totally negligible. Defaults are deflationary, ``printing'' is inflationary, and so far it looks as if the ``printing'' is outweighing the defaults. Remember that the supply of money is only half the story. The supply of goods and services matters, too. The entire supply chain is under attack, is slowly crumbling, and that is going to be very inflationary too.

Pushing for UBI? That's destructive enough that they probably are. That's inflationary, going to hit the supply chain harder than it hits the money supply.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 19, 2021 9:53 AM  

Akulkis wrote:Chinese subs are extremely noisy. I wouldn't want to be on Chinese sub with orders to attack a U. S. carrier group. That would be a one-way mission with their propeller shaft bearings
WWII subs were quite noisy, too. They liked to lie on the bottom in shallow water, like most of the South China Sea.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 19, 2021 9:55 AM  

map wrote:Furthermore, a vaccine is supposed to create a sterilizing immunity, where your body kills the virus. This is basically admitting that the vaccine just creates an asymptomatic super-spreader.
They paid good money for this plandemic, and they don't want it to end too soon. Good thing that the disease is a typical Chinese export product, not adequate to its purpose.

Blogger Sapper March 19, 2021 9:58 AM  

@105

Yes, the ACOG's with low light viz and drop compensator are great, when you could get them. At the time I was a Co CDR, getting those were impossible to get because we were line dogs and not on MTOE. Somehow EOTechs, etc were easier to purchase (probably because they were more plentiful early on?) Tritium is nice (I had an actual issued Compass with it instead of GID tape) but Tritium I find doesn't last that long. The ACOG with the "light bar" were actually more effective especially under PVS-14's.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 19, 2021 10:24 AM  

Elder Son wrote:Bullshit.
If we wanted total war, we'd hit that stupid dam while it's full… wait a bit for the reactions, then attack on some other front.

USA! USA! USA!
[…]
Maybe we'll use are super-secret alien flying saucers with alien laser beam technology.

Good job missing my point.
It wasn't at all a "we'd definitely win", it was a "we obviously aren't even trying to win in any prospective conflict here".

Cwyn wrote:IMO, America is going to be too busy with internal falling apart to care about the rest of the world. The next war won't see the US care. Let the annoying other kill each other over whatever. God knows Trump has proved we have no real allies, just parasite enthusiasts.
This is true; let the rest of the world take care of the rest of the world; we need to turn to God and work on fixing our own homes.

Sillon wrote:OneWingedShark wrote:For unrestricted warfare, we would have used Corona-chan as an excuse to close the borders to all trade and travel; this would:
1) Instantly drop the Trade Deficit to zero,
2) keep the US from feeding those that are against us,
3) encourage/stimulate domestic manufacturing,
4) hurt the multinational companies engaged in offshoring, and
5) force more job-openings domestically.

You need to make a single basic question, how will this benefit the… (((Insert our best ally here)))
If you can't answer that question positively for them you know why it won't be ever done.
They have invested in China a lot of money and they think they can control it.

You make a good argument for considering the elite to not be a part of our nation, but rather a separate and foreign elite.

Blogger OneWingedShark March 19, 2021 10:39 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:B.R. wrote:In 1941, the USA had very little ability stand up to Germany and Japan.
But within a few years, the USA was nuking Japan and crossing the Rhine.

In 1941, the USA had factories. Today, China has our factories.

In 1941 the USA had corporations run by Amreicans.

ThatWouldBeTelling wrote:@94 Newscaper312:
People like to your hitting Three Gorges Dam as a total trump card, but it's not that simple because theres a very good chance they would consider that as a WMD equivalent attack and respond accordingly, us using conventional weapons or not.
Indeed, kill their people by the hundreds of millions and destroy so much of their productive capacity and it's worse than nuking a number of their cities.

The point was that there has been no will to win, much less even a will to fight, on our part.
Those at the top hate us and want us dead, enslaved, and/or destitute.

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Pushing for UBI? That's destructive enough that they probably are. That's inflationary, going to hit the supply chain harder than it hits the money supply.
I think what they want to do is kill off small-businesses, force people to be unemployed (by flooding the job-market from the people whose businesses tanked), pile on the civil-strife (perhaps war), all to deplete savings and make people desperate — then, to complete their Great Reset here in the US, they'll dangle UBI and debt-forgiveness both with the "low, low price" of signing away the right to own property.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 19, 2021 1:09 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:RadixMalorum wrote:The CCP would use the millions of dead and milk that victimhood card for decades to come. Pretty sure Taiwanese leadership isn't stupid enough to do that even if it did have nukes.

Where is the downside for Taiwan? Also, there are many around the world who would see millions of dead Chinese as a good start - most of Asia and Africa at least. The Victim Olympics is unique to the decadent West.


The downside for Taiwan is it won't stop it from being conquered and millions of dead mainlanders will justify the ensuing genocidal retaliation and any amount of oppression the CCP has planned going forward. The elites in charge of Taiwan aren't stupid enough to sign their own death warrants when the alternative is they can sell out Taiwan and at least hold on to some of their power in a situation similar to HK.




Blogger Paulito March 19, 2021 1:24 PM  

@140 What right to own property? It's already gone. There's no allodial title anywhere in the US anymore. All land is owned by the state - if you don't believe me, stop paying your "property tax" which is actually just rent and see if the actual owner doesn't assert superior title. Try the same with not registering your vehicle (same thing as "property tax" but we just call it something different.) They have no need to make anyone sign away rights that no longer actually exist. Even "your" money is owned by the Federal Reserve, they just deign to allow you to use it for now.

Blogger Jack Amok March 19, 2021 3:06 PM  

I have heard the Chinese navy is still decades behind us, anyone know more?

It's not so much a matter of China catching up to the USN, it's more like the USN declining to (or past) China's level. Leadership, training and morale are going to shit fast throughout the US military, like you would expect with any converged organization.

On top of that, I think the USN has a peculiar problem. It's traditional (since WWII) role is power-projection and commerce protection, but the faction in the US that favors military adventurism and free trade is the faction riddled with the sort of woke nonsense that prohibits competence, while the faction that knows how to maintain capabilities is far more isolationist and protectionist. So for the near future, the USN will either work for bosses who believe in its mission but won't allow it to be competent, or for bosses who will ensure competency but won't allow it to continue its current mission.

Blogger MidnightSun March 19, 2021 4:50 PM  

Your capital has been besieged.
Foreigners are running the government.
Borders are wide open.
Patriotic Americans are being tracked by intel agencies.
Don't bother worrying about war with other nations. The enemy is HERE. The war has been going on for some time.

Blogger Storm Rhode March 20, 2021 8:38 AM  

Do you go for total war now or an anemic tactical retreat that lasts decades while your people are replaced and your children indoctrinated more every day? It a war of slow attrition you can't win. Being bled white by a thousand cuts.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 21, 2021 12:34 AM  

Storm Rhode wrote:Do you go for total war now or an anemic tactical retreat that lasts decades while your people are replaced and your children indoctrinated more every day? It a war of slow attrition you can't win. Being bled white by a thousand cuts.

Total war against who? That's the real question. Having a gun is pointless if you don't point it at the right target.

Blogger RadixMalorum March 21, 2021 12:35 AM  

MidnightSun wrote:Your capital has been besieged.

Foreigners are running the government.

Borders are wide open.

Patriotic Americans are being tracked by intel agencies.

Don't bother worrying about war with other nations. The enemy is HERE. The war has been going on for some time.


Seems like going to war with other nations is precisely what those foreigners running your government and opening your borders would want to distract you from noticing (((them))).

Blogger MidnightSun March 21, 2021 11:41 PM  

@148
No kiddin' Einstein.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 22, 2021 4:05 PM  

MidnightSun wrote:Your capital has been besieged.
Foreigners are running the government.
Borders are wide open.
Patriotic Americans are being tracked by intel agencies.
Don't bother worrying about war with other nations. The enemy is HERE. The war has been going on for some time.

DC is the imperial capitol, and that has been in the hands of foreign enemies since Mr. Lincoln went to Washington. It's not the capitol of my nation.
Otherwise, I agree.

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