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Monday, March 08, 2021

When rhetoric works

The way to recognize whether rhetoric is effective or not is by the reaction of the targets. Rhetoric that inspires denials, protests, and wordy dialectical retorts is effective, but you can always recognize effective rhetoric by the attempts to ban it:

Conservatives chalked up a victory in the battleground of pejorative labels, concluding that the trending ‘Blue Anon’ branding of left-wing conspiracy theorists is sufficiently stinging after the term earned censorship bona fides.

The term made it into the online Urban Dictionary of slang words and phrases earlier this week, only to be removed by Sunday. A search of the term, a play on ‘QAnon’ that has been used increasingly in recent months to mock leftists, now comes up empty. Previously, the dictionary showed a definition for Blue Anon, noting that it's “a loosely organized network of Democrat voters, politicians and media personalities who spread left-wing conspiracy theories, such as the Russia hoax, Jussie Smollett hoax, Ukraine hoax, Covington kids hoax and Brett Kavanaugh hoax.”

Conservatives interpreted the attempted disappearing of Blue Anon as a sign of success. “Wokies at Urban Dictionary zapped Blue Anon because it was too powerful,” journalist Jack Posobiec said Sunday on Twitter. Others predicted a ‘Streisand effect’, when attempts to hide something inadvertently bring more attention and interest to it.

Perhaps it would be worthwhile to define a seven-level Nicomachean Scale of Rhetoric, by which the effectiveness of various rhetoric can be judged.

  • (7) Thermonuclear. Example: racist, pedo, you have to go back
  • (6) Nuclear. Example: Holocaust denier, cuckservative, mudshark, superstraight
  • (5) Highly effective. Example: SJW, sexist, BlueAnon, feminazi, judeo-christian, Proposition Nation
  • (4) Effective. Example: tranny, slut, conspiracy theorist, anti-Semite, neoclown
  • (3) Mostly Harmless. Example: global-warming denier, glowie, incel, quisling, extremist
  • (2) Harmless. Example: truther, hypocrite, propagandist, agist, anti-science
  • (1) Give it up. Example: Dems are the real racists, crybully, TERF, handicapable
Keep in mind that the more amusing and memorable the variant of the term, the more biting it will be. Telling someone "you will never be a real woman" is always going to be more effective than simply calling them a "tranny", particularly when the target isn't at all gender-confused. It's also more effective to say something like "calling her a feminazi is offensive to the German National Socialist Worker's Party" than to just call her a feminazi.

Also, note that the more a rhetorical term ju-jitsus the other side's rhetoric, the more effective it is. That's why SJW and BlueAnon are far more effective than people with a dialectical inclination tend to understand, because it is simultaneously parrying the other side's rhetoric while launching a rhetorical attack on the other side's self-image.

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Blogger Wayne March 08, 2021 9:06 AM  

He may not have coined the phrase, but the first use of Blue Anon I am familiar with was by Glen Greenwald.

Blogger RandyB March 08, 2021 9:19 AM  

For those of us too short for Aristotle, these posts are gold.

Blogger rumpole5 March 08, 2021 9:20 AM  

Yes indeed, effective rhetoric phobia is sometimes revealed by the "cancel immediately" reaction thereto!

Blogger Workaholic Bear March 08, 2021 9:22 AM  

My instinct was that the Blue Anon insult was retarded but now I think you’re right. They hate QANON so much that it probably does drive them crazy to hear themselves being associated with it.

Blogger phunktor March 08, 2021 9:28 AM  

it's good when the enermy provides BDA.

Blogger Harambe March 08, 2021 9:35 AM  

The best rhetorical labels (as used by the Right anyway) are sarcastic and mocking. Like you pointed out with "Social Justice Warrior". Because we all know those people aren't brave and they certainly aren't built like warriors.

And the shorter and more condensed the label, the more effective.

Blogger basementhomebrewer March 08, 2021 9:37 AM  

"you will never be a real woman"

I have ran into a couple mixed race Hispanics and blacks that are fully invested in woke culture. They constantly bring up themselves how they will never be considered white, which means it stings. I have dropped the "you will never be white" on them a couple times and its highly effective at triggering them.

Blogger Unknown March 08, 2021 9:44 AM  

VD, you're going to get in trouble with the ADL for not putting the terms anti-Semite and holobunga denier in the category (8) universe imploding.

I can hear the grabblercopters on the way to Italy flying over my house in America without nukes.

Blogger Karen took the Kids March 08, 2021 9:54 AM  

Bookmarked for brilliance.

I'm curious as to where 'cunt' would fall on the list?

That's usually a homer.

Blogger Canadian Warlord March 08, 2021 9:57 AM  

Every time I read, "mostly harmless," I think of Douglas Adams. Now, how about that civilization that got wiped out because they stopped polishing their phones???

I'm partial to "solar denier cult." Poor old lady came by the house one day to pimp global warming hysteria. Rhetoric: effective. I told her that she's much funnier than the flat-earthers, and to keep rolling out the comedy hits. Hopefully that address is on a list somewhere.

Blogger CM March 08, 2021 10:17 AM  

Where does ctrl-left fit in this?

I thought that was at least useful, but it’s highly limited usage among insulated circles makes me wonder if it is as bad as DR3, except it kinda does what BlueAnon is doing.

Blogger Ingemar March 08, 2021 10:19 AM  

BRB going to call my journalist cousin a pedo

Blogger Dan in Georgia March 08, 2021 10:24 AM  

"OK, boomer" is near the top of that scale too. The way they respond to it is all the proof you need.

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 08, 2021 10:36 AM  

I'd argue superstraight is more thermonuclear than you think. The SJW/NPC brigades couldn't control themselves going after anyone and everyone supporting it on Twitter yesterday. They were eating their own. It was a sight to behold.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 10:40 AM  

I'd argue superstraight is more thermonuclear than you think.

You'd be foolish to do so. Get back to us if it's still around in 50 years, like "racist". It's probably more "highly effective", but it's appropriate for its time.

Blogger Matthew March 08, 2021 10:40 AM  

Is BlueAnon effective for people who believe in Coof related nonsense like, that the not-vaccine is safe, or is more specific rhetoric to toss their way?

Blogger Shimshon March 08, 2021 10:42 AM  

Retard is pretty good in the right context. Triggering in way that moron, imbecile, and idiot are not.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 10:42 AM  

I'm curious as to where 'cunt' would fall on the list?

Nuclear in the USA, effective in the UK. Different cultures, different effects.

Where does ctrl-left fit in this?

Clever dialectic is almost always ineffective rhetoric. If you think you're being witty and clever, you're probably missing the target. I'd put it at "Harmless" since it does at least have a ring to it.

Blogger Shlomo Lichtenstien March 08, 2021 10:43 AM  

So, when folks that I work with ask me if I have gotten the vaccine yet (out of misguided concern for their own safety), would a "Nope, I am not ready to be a vaccine guinea pig" be considered rhetorical enough?

Blogger Nate March 08, 2021 10:45 AM  

" Telling someone "you will never be a real woman" is always going to be more effective than simply calling them a "tranny", particularly when the target isn't at all gender-confused."

if you really want to hurt a girl... call her handsome.

Blogger Solon March 08, 2021 10:46 AM  

Where does the cringe factor come into play with this?

BlueAnon is mildly amusing, but doesn't really cut to the heart as i believe is intended: the BlueAnons are utterly convinced in the truth of their side of the argument, implying that they are in fact the conspiracy theorists just won't compute for them. It's the equivalent of saying "haha, you think the sky is actually blue!" and thinking you've made a zinger when they're just going to treat that as proof that you are just as crazy as they think you are.

"Superstraight" is just some dumbass TikTok zoomer meme and is ultra cringe, but it plays on the left's preference for redefining/making up new words by using their own tactics against them in a way that they can't effectively counter: "Superstraight is just as valid a sexuality/gender preference as any other and I demand to be included in the LGBTQWERTYBBQ alliance/umbrella." To deny it is to deny the validity of your own position. Cringe but brilliant, with just the right tone of mockery needed to really flare up the emotions.

One is cringe to little effect, and the other is intentionally over-the-top cringy to turn a mirror on the opponent's cringe.

Blogger Shlomo Lichtenstien March 08, 2021 10:51 AM  

@7 "you will never be white" Man, that is gold, solid gold. That gives me such ammo for the diversity hires that I have to work with that have convinced themselves that their merit is the reason for their success and at the same time have the habit of rubbing my nose in their successes over mine.

Blogger furor kek tonicus ( LeMoron James loves knife murder ) March 08, 2021 10:57 AM  

if the response of the target is confusion ( wtf, yo? ), you're probably Mostly Harmless or lower.

nobody had to tell Neo-cons that Cuckservative was a kill shot, they knew it.

i may not know what super straight or Blue Anon are but it doesn't really matter because i'm not the target.

Blogger Solon March 08, 2021 10:58 AM  

"Cunt" is quickly becoming the same as "bitch" here in my experience, at least for women. Most women have been called a "bitch" countless times since they were like ten, if anything, it's sort of become a mark of pride for them, a la "haters gonna hate."

That's women though. Calling a man a "little bitch" is grounds for being called outside, which means it's nuclear-level effective rhetoric.

Also, "cuck" is thermonuclear. I had a masker get passive-aggressive toward me (for not wearing the muzzle), and my response of "fuck off, cuck" had him screaming and wishing death at me. The dude was like 6 inches taller and 100 pounds heavier than me, and he was reduced to tears from one little word. Must have hit close to home, I suppose.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan March 08, 2021 10:58 AM  

Blue Anon certainly fits the part about based in truth. The political left being evil people selling conspiracy theory to ignorant social outcasts and outright morons.

Blogger DAMN SON March 08, 2021 11:05 AM  

on the lowest tier i'd also throw in CHUD from the left, and from the right i'd point to the "gay used to mean happy" theatrics you still get from many of the spicier churchians. lumpenprole-centric insults may even be lower than the lowest tier on your list.

Blogger Darren March 08, 2021 11:05 AM  

"17 Comments" right now I just found that funny...

Also please VD write a book about how amateurs can learn to construct solid rhetoric. Even if only a short pamphlet it would be invaluable.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 08, 2021 11:08 AM  

What ever happened to meme wars? I miss them.

Blogger Darren March 08, 2021 11:10 AM  

@Harambe speaking of short and condensed, "#NPC" was incredible to watch unfold in real time, incomparably effective and dangerous to the Narrative, judging by how fast it got sprrad on and then banned by social media.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 08, 2021 11:12 AM  

I've found "sodomite" to be thermonuclear. My brother found similarly with "fake American".

Where does ctrl-left fit in this?

Mostly harmless. It's funny, and while it might work on Anita Sarskeezyan or Zoe Quinn, my sense is most bluehairs wouldn't get the joke.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 11:16 AM  

One is cringe to little effect, and the other is intentionally over-the-top cringy to turn a mirror on the opponent's cringe.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You clearly don't grasp the difference between rhetoric and dialectic.

Blogger Silly but True March 08, 2021 11:17 AM  

“Abuser” was well on its way from falling from nuclear in 1980s and 1990s to being highly effective; Metoo and the notable frauds over the years like Duke University Lacrosse & UVa / Rolling Stone fraternity hoax has helped erode its effectiveness at start of Metoo to probably just being effective.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 11:19 AM  

Is BlueAnon effective for people who believe in Coof related nonsense like, that the not-vaccine is safe, or is more specific rhetoric to toss their way?

It's probably not yet, but may become so. It's hard to predict the future sensitivities of the irrational.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 11:21 AM  

So, when folks that I work with ask me if I have gotten the vaccine yet (out of misguided concern for their own safety), would a "Nope, I am not ready to be a vaccine guinea pig" be considered rhetorical enough?

Not even a little bit. Do you not see how that is focused on you and not them? As a general rule, if you're talking about yourself, you're not utilizing rhetoric.

Blogger stevo March 08, 2021 11:21 AM  

This is probably too clever by half, but when asked if I'm getting the vaccine I say "Nope, I'm in the control group".

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 11:22 AM  

"#NPC" was incredible to watch unfold in real time

Yes, NPC was surprisingly effective. My guess is that it called into question the NPC's illusion that he is an educated, critical-thinking special boy.

Blogger SemiSpook37 March 08, 2021 11:23 AM  

@15

You're right. With the way things are these days, it'd be tough to see how much staying power the phrase has by the end of the week. That's just the nature of the exercise, I guess. I would say "game", but I interpret that term to mean all elements not taking things seriously enough, and as we've seen, that is absolutely not the case when it comes to the overall subject matter and the opposing side.

Definitely need to get better on the offensive side of things, that's for damned sure. Thanks for the clarification, Vox. Always appreciated.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 11:24 AM  

I'm partial to "solar denier cult."

Too wordy and "cult" is dialectical. "Sun Denier" would be better.

Blogger Lauri Stark March 08, 2021 11:30 AM  

Just learned there is such a thing as "superstraight". It's funny.

Blogger John Bradley March 08, 2021 11:35 AM  

"#NPC" was incredible to watch unfold in real time, incomparably effective and dangerous to the Narrative, judging by how fast it got sprrad on and then banned by social media.

See also, "Learn to Code". They hated that one, and got it deleted from all Respectable Media almost as soon as it appeared.

Blogger DAMN SON March 08, 2021 11:36 AM  

oh nearly forgot, pol has figured out the best way to shut up vargs and neopagans is to just quote skyrim at them. wignats posting shitty black-sun-woman-in-wheat-field memes shut up fast or seethe endlessly when you just say "blessings of akatosh upon ye." funniest thing ever.

Blogger JaimeInTexas March 08, 2021 11:37 AM  

@24

To a tranny:
You will never be a dick.
You will never be a cunt.

Richard Levine may call himself Rachel, mutilated himself and will never be a cunt. He still is dick.

Blogger DonReynolds March 08, 2021 11:40 AM  

Anytime I encounter determined use of the word "Diversity", I counter with the word "Divorce-ity".
WE do not need "diversity" in this country, WE need a national divorce from incompatible people.
If the marriage was ever good, I really cannot remember, but WE are well-into the angry language lessons already and inching toward domestic violence. WE badly need a divorce before one of us kills the other. Yeah, WE tried marriage counselors, on the Right and on the Left. Mostly, they were just egging on the fights. WE even tried arbitration, but the Supreme Court refused to hear any of it.

Even Wimmin can understand divorce-ity. WE may need a required period of separation, WE divide up the property and the States and the Military and the kids, with the bills. But in the end, WE get a Final Decree of Divorce-ity. YOU go your way and I go mine. Go and Do whatever makes you happy. Sleep with the window open, for whomever you are expecting at night. Skip breakfast and finally lose weight. Learn a new hobby, like growing your own food. Take a trip on your own. But lose my number and don't call me anymore.

Blogger FacelessBro March 08, 2021 11:42 AM  

"if you really want to hurt a girl... call her handsome."

That's gold.

Blogger Harambe March 08, 2021 11:44 AM  

Cow fartist. Or flatulist.

Probably not a killshot though.

Blogger John Best. March 08, 2021 11:45 AM  

Pedophile enabler is the best I have come up with. Able to counter racist. You have to go back is my favourite though.

The left's use of gammon in the UK I would rate as effective. Not close to there older stuff. But it was true about middle ages or older English men having faces the colour of gammon. It was irksome to hear it. But it didn't make you retreat or ask for a explanation of it.

Blogger Sillon March 08, 2021 11:46 AM  

Unknown wrote:So, when folks that I work with ask me if I have gotten the vaccine yet (out of misguided concern for their own safety), would a "Nope, I am not ready to be a vaccine guinea pig" be considered rhetorical enough?

I tell when someone ask: Of course I'm not getting an experimental vaccine now nor the next mandated one, do you think I'm cattle or want to be treated like livestock?

I do not know how effective it is and I do not care I think it fits the reality of what they want to do with us.

Blogger sammibandit March 08, 2021 11:47 AM  

I've had some luck calling women "faggot". It signals that they're burdensome and as Nate says, handsome. I usually get dumbstruck looks from the people I call it to irl.

Blogger Sillon March 08, 2021 11:48 AM  

Nate wrote:" Telling someone "you will never be a real woman" is always going to be more effective than simply calling them a "tranny", particularly when the target isn't at all gender-confused."

if you really want to hurt a girl... call her handsome.


And I just spitted my coffee on the keyboard... you win the internet today Nate.

Blogger tweell March 08, 2021 11:49 AM  

Thank you for the explanation. Aspie = clueless about rhetoric, your post and comments help a lot.

Blogger Glen Sprigg March 08, 2021 11:52 AM  

How effective would 'anti-science' be against the mask Nazis?

Blogger Sean March 08, 2021 11:58 AM  

Curious what you think of the term "useful idiot"

Blogger wahr01 March 08, 2021 12:02 PM  

I've found calling the pronoun brigade creationists hits a nerve.

Blogger Unknown March 08, 2021 12:08 PM  

VD wrote:I'm partial to "solar denier cult."

Too wordy and "cult" is dialectical. "Sun Denier" would be better.


Better than what I came up with. I learned about the MWP in undergrad when I was minoring in history.

Now it is forbidden knowledge.

You can explain in detail if people want to hear, and much shorter you can say 'the giant nuclear fireball in the sky gets warmer and cooler slightly over the centuries', but I could never find a good two word hook.

Blogger Daniel March 08, 2021 12:08 PM  

Princess Piggy > Sparkle
Ladyboy > Tranny
Fake News > MSM > lamestream media
Media whores > j-skoolers
Shill > troll
Alt-retard > alt-reich
Captain Underoos > Mittens
Creepy Joe > Sleepy Joe
REEE Party > Dummocraps
Republicants > RINOs

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 08, 2021 12:11 PM  

Big Meanie is my go-to. Just crushes them.

Blogger Daniel March 08, 2021 12:12 PM  

Vaccine response can simply be, "Are you depressed? I'm worried about you."

Blogger JayD March 08, 2021 12:13 PM  

I don't know anything about rhetoric or dialectic except what I've picked up from context. I don't understand why "cult" is dialectical in this case. I can definitely see that "Sun Denier" is way more effective.

Blogger Cinco March 08, 2021 12:13 PM  

Oh that’s ruthless.

Blogger Cinco March 08, 2021 12:19 PM  

Agree with Sodomite. I like U.S. citizen in place of “fake American”. If you say it with the right context (when watching Antifa in Portland on CNN or gay pride parades, etc.) it really shocks people.

Blogger Romulus March 08, 2021 12:23 PM  

SPLC: "There are white supremist plotting against PoX everywhere."

"Ok Jew-Anon"

Blogger Balkan Yankee March 08, 2021 12:34 PM  

"Rage Hussy" for male SJWs and middle-aged Karens.

Blogger Unknown March 08, 2021 12:37 PM  

How about "it" instead of the "they" that all the freak trannies and whatever the fuck they call themselves attempt to get us to use?

Blogger Nate March 08, 2021 12:39 PM  

helicopter ride rhetoric was effective and funny... the initial commie reaction to that was hilarious.

Bonus points for actually inspiring some kids to learn a little history.

Blogger Nate March 08, 2021 12:45 PM  

an example of completely rhetorical failure.. Drudge has been trying like hell to make "bareface" be a thing. But it isn't. and it never will be... because literally everyone wants masks to go away and never return.

Blogger Just So March 08, 2021 12:45 PM  

Sun Denier is the perfect response, to prove you wrong they must stare into the Sun, which I encourage.

Blogger Nate March 08, 2021 12:45 PM  

another example of idiotic rhetoric:

White Genocide is and always was stupid.

Blogger Kevin March 08, 2021 12:47 PM  

If she's fat, call her volumpsuious

Blogger SaltHarvest March 08, 2021 12:47 PM  

Wonder where the "kick-me cons" who were responsible for that CPAC stage snafu/sabotage rank?

Blogger shadohand (akuma sock account# 799273 Matt Gaetz is all for the P.L.U.R. Life (Peace, Love, Unity and Republicanism) ) March 08, 2021 12:59 PM  

Boomeritis is clearly Comorbid with Millenial Derangement Syndrome

Sub-Syndromal Unspecified Mental Health Disorder. "We cant say whats wrong with you, because nothing is, but we gotta bill you for the abuse we put you through."

The Unconstitutional State Sponsored Religion Of Logical Fallacies (
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2625374/)

Cuckthorities<---This is self explanatory.

Involuntary Neonatal Male Genital Reduction Assignment <----Thank you for this one Suburban_elk

Blogger Daniel March 08, 2021 1:08 PM  

Oh bad rhetoric abounds. "Occasional Cortex" was really stupid. She would have absolutely taken that as a compliment and all it said to her people was "sometimes you think she's smart".

And Drudges barefaced is stupid dialectic as well. It connotes that the mask opponents are liars. Double dumb.

Drumpf was another hilarious own goal moment in bad rhetoric.

Blogger Jack Amok March 08, 2021 1:12 PM  

Not even a little bit. Do you not see how that is focused on you and not them? As a general rule, if you're talking about yourself, you're not utilizing rhetoric.

Yeah, I know the attempt is to imply that the other guy is the guinea pig, but you have to be more direct. "No thanks, you can be the guinea pig" isn't perfect, but it's better. Saying you don't want to be the guinea pig is similar to leftist idiots saying they effing love science! That became a joke because they're talking about themselves and it's clear they are insecure about their intellectual ability to understand science.

See also, SJW for the same effect boomeranging on them.

Blogger The Course of Empire March 08, 2021 1:13 PM  

I agree about using Sodomite as well (as others have mentioned). I was astounded how effective that old term really is. It stops Progressives in their tracks. They don't know what to say, they're almost afraid of it, like they know full well the truth connected to it that goes to the heart of the matter. No sanitizing "homosexual", facile "gay", or 'offensive' "fag"; just pure Biblical truth that states they are involved in a truly depraved sin that's an abomination in the eyes of God.

Blogger Doktor Jeep March 08, 2021 1:14 PM  

I like Owen calling flask masks "boomer burkah".
Though "face burkah" might hit harder with more conservative types whose rugged individualism ended with mask mandates.

Any economic policy that passes the bill to the next generation: Boomernomics.

So from what it's looking like to me, I think good rhetoric starts with being as short as possible. Two words at best. Though "you have to go back" and "it's ok to be white" are exceptions.

Blogger Dan in Georgia March 08, 2021 1:26 PM  

His wife’s boyfriend nods.

Blogger Steve Canyon March 08, 2021 1:26 PM  

I've had good success with "Crone" in situations where "See You Next Tuesday" is inappropriate. A word whose connotation is ugly and old is a 1-2 combo that seems to work on 30-something Karens. Becky's on their six and the off-ramp for being an Ethel is dead ahead.

Blogger Lauri Stark March 08, 2021 1:33 PM  

@42

A good one.

Blogger Jack Amok March 08, 2021 1:33 PM  

Yes, NPC was surprisingly effective. My guess is that it called into question the NPC's illusion that he is an educated, critical-thinking special boy.

Most of the most effective rhetoric hits at insecurities and undermines the target's self-image.

-Racist: you're not a fair and just person. You might even be guilty of crimes
-Pedo: you're a freak and your kind has historically been beaten to death by the entire rest of society when discovered.
-You have to go back: You don't belong here, you're a fraud and sooner or later you'll be kicked out.
-cuckservative: your leadership position is a fraud and no one is really loyal to you.

etc.

Blogger Glen Sprigg March 08, 2021 1:33 PM  

Nate wrote:an example of completely rhetorical failure.. Drudge has been trying like hell to make "bareface" be a thing. But it isn't. and it never will be... because literally everyone wants masks to go away and never return.
Not everyone; ugly gammas think masks are great.

Blogger Dan in Georgia March 08, 2021 1:34 PM  

“Richard” at his age was not a fun name to have. Didn’t exactly have the effect of “a boy named Sue”. Guessing he was raised by mother and step-dad. Early Life? Duh. Of course.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 08, 2021 1:37 PM  

"if you really want to hurt a girl... call her handsome."

That's gold.


AFAIK it's generally used on older women who still look good. So you're calling her "old".

Agree with Sodomite.

They may claim not to believe in God, or the real God rather, but "sodomite" rips off the veneer of unbelief and exposes their psyches to the Lovecraftian sense of horror and dread that's completely of their own making.

I like U.S. citizen in place of “fake American”. If you say it with the right context (when watching Antifa in Portland on CNN or gay pride parades, etc.) it really shocks people.

I'll have to try it out, but "U.S. citizen" ranks more as Effective or Mostly Harmless. Maybe unless in speech, where you should mockingly pronounce it "cittissin" like the talking-heads tend to. All I know is "fake American" really, really pisses left-wing immigrants off.

Blogger JM March 08, 2021 1:41 PM  

This discussion ought to be a regular (weekly, bi-weekly, or monthly)recurring topic, wherein we share ideas about what rhetoric works and what doesn't.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope March 08, 2021 1:43 PM  

I'm now going to say "Control Group" when people ask why I wont get the Covid jabs. The pressure is strong on those of us in healthcare.

I've heard that my dialectic has convinced my wife's choir group and some portion of our church to avoid these experimental vaccines. But that only worked because both groups were open to actually thinking about the topic.

It also tells me the scepticism level about what media and government is telling us is much higher now.


Blogger Doktor Jeep March 08, 2021 1:44 PM  

Now that I think on this, some things are becoming more clear.
i saw in their thread that someone said they reply to the vaccination inqiry with 'no, i'm not a human guinea pig".

But that does not appear effective when thinking like the target of the retort.
The biggest fear of rhetoric by the enemy is the effect on their NPCs.

NPCs literally blue screen at the slightest attempt of enlightenment or educating.They are programmed that way. But considering the vaccine question and the best rhetorical answer, one must consider that NPCs pretty much, like most people, only have a job and entertainment. The rest of life experience is the implanted memory from the television. If you go deep sea fishing, then the words Deep Sea fishing will bring up your memory of it. If you never went deep sea fishing, then the words will only invoke that which you saw on TV. Hence implanted memories.

So if the NPC has only seen rats or mice getting used as lab experiments on TV, then that guinea pig response is only going to make the NPC wonder what covid vaccines have to do with fluffy little animals. If the NPC is of Italian heritage from New York and with the same intelligence as Chris Cuomo, he's going to think you insulted him and try to fight you.

So the bext rhetorical answer would be "No, I'm not a test subject".

And with that, also lies another clue:not only is that short and simple, but it's weaponized. "test". It's going to register on the NPC brain. And tests are hard, therefore they are bad. Test and subject together.. oh no.

I am left wondering:what of the effect of a "culture jamming" answer? I have used them, but never studied what they do. A culture jam is when you take an NPCs programming or programming talking point or concept and hit their challenge with it. Especially when it's something they are programmed to be emotional over. It's as if the media already weaponized the rhetoric for you.
For example:

"Why aren't you wearing a mask"?
Answer:"I can't breathe".

Blogger Silly but True March 08, 2021 1:46 PM  

Google response to SJW racism & sexism is topkek: you’re mentally ill.

Which side do you support? Both. We win when Google is bankrupted by mentally ill race hucksters. We also win when Google shuts down mentally ill race hucksters from blackmailing corporations.

Best case scenario: mentally ill race hucksters become so microagressed at perceived racism they go on Google shooting spree.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1259728

Blogger Unknownsailor March 08, 2021 1:57 PM  

NPC is another one that instantly pegs SJW rage.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 2:02 PM  

This is probably too clever by half, but when asked if I'm getting the vaccine I say "Nope, I'm in the control group".

That's actually quite good, except it would be better like this: "I'd love to, but I'm in the control group."

Blogger Nate March 08, 2021 2:20 PM  

Also... Calling Cuomo "Governor Party Tits" is never gonna not be funny.

Blogger Across the World March 08, 2021 2:23 PM  

So, while Vox’s term ‘pedofist’ is awesome, I would like to suggest ‘pedocist’.

Rhetorically, it more obviously combines the words pedophile and racist so the association is clear to a larger audience. The ‘cist’ suffix has a more disgusting sound and you also get the association with the word ‘cyst’. It can be even be spelled that way. Finally, it has the same horrible hissing sound that the term ‘cis’ has in that ridiculous term ‘cis-gendered’. I always found cisgender to be very effective rhetoric. It creates a nonsense binary and burdens one of those binaries with an absolutely awful sounding word.

Blogger Nate March 08, 2021 2:30 PM  

Oh... "Fake News".. Gotta be ranked up near the top. it works and it will still be working 30 years from now.

Blogger hideous March 08, 2021 2:35 PM  

I was just wondering yesterday of what might be an effective rhetorical response to maybe the most common leftist rhetorical attack today.

Attack: "You're a racist".
Response: "You're a race jizzer."

But it's not quite what I was looking for. Maybe "raceturbator" would be better.

Lemme grab some test groups and check the response...

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 2:51 PM  

So the bext rhetorical answer would be "No, I'm not a test subject".

No. Stop autisting. That's literally dialectic.

Blogger VD March 08, 2021 2:51 PM  

Oh... "Fake News"..

(nods)

Blogger Across the World March 08, 2021 2:52 PM  

Fake news is unique because the MSM came up with it first but Trump wrestled it away from them like a knife from am attacker at which point he had the knife and they couldn’t wrestle it back from him. He did this masterfully by repeating it so many times it stuck in peoples’ heads as a Trump creation when initiially it wasn’t.

Blogger CF Neal March 08, 2021 2:57 PM  

CUCK will become one-word put down. And it's edgy enough to be misunderstood as curse.

As for, "Have you gotten your vaccination yet? -- I'm sticking with my initial & instantaneous response:

"Hell no!"

Blogger Romulus March 08, 2021 2:59 PM  

"Hey are you getting the vaccine, everyone else is."

"No, ill wait till the animal trials are done first."

Blogger Zander Stander March 08, 2021 3:00 PM  

'I fuckin love science'
'So you believe in science?'
'Of course'
'Great to see faith is still a thing'

Blogger Garuna March 08, 2021 3:00 PM  

"Beta male" is a classic.

Against the vaccines, I use "lab rat" and "it's literally impossible to know the long-term side-effects". They usually give up on trying to convince me after that.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 08, 2021 3:02 PM  

hideous wrote:I was just wondering yesterday of what might be an effective rhetorical response to maybe the most common leftist rhetorical attack today.
I smile and say ``Yes.''

Blogger Valar Addemmis March 08, 2021 3:16 PM  

Nate wrote:Oh... "Fake News".. Gotta be ranked up near the top. it works and it will still be working 30 years from now.

Especially because it's a case of:

> Also, note that the more a rhetorical term ju-jitsus the other side's rhetoric, the more effective it is.

It's easy for most people to forget that Fake News is rhetoric that the MSM originated, to discredit something as middle of the road as 2016 Breitbart (they could have at least gone at Gateway Pundit, but the whole point was to exclude the middle and keep people hooked to the far left as the only credible source). But because they couldn't help but commit journalistic malpractice time and time again, it opened up using their own rhetoric against them.

Blogger WestByGod Bear March 08, 2021 3:33 PM  

Studied Rhetoric/Communication in college and paid way too much money to do so. Already learned more about rhetoric from Vox in less than half the time. Thank you for this post Vox and especially thank you for sharing your knowledge for *free*.

Blogger RandyJJ March 08, 2021 3:43 PM  

@91 hideous
I was just wondering yesterday of what might be an effective rhetorical response to maybe the most common leftist rhetorical attack today.

Attack: "You're a racist".
Response: "You're a race jizzer."

But it's not quite what I was looking for. Maybe "raceturbator" would be better.

Lemme grab some test groups and check the response...


If your rhetoric is a rephrase of "Oh, yeah? Well you're a poo-poo head!", then it is bad rhetoric.

Blogger Hieroglyph March 08, 2021 3:50 PM  

BlueAnon is good, I think. Thus it will be nuked from Left-Net, just like NPC. I'm not sure I really understand superstraight, it appears to be a zoomer thing, but I have hope for zoomers. Some appear to be able to resist propaganda, which I put down to the fact they've all grown up with smartphones. And they are sufficiently crazy that they may begin to question certain ... narratives that everyone else is too scared to. We will see.

"You will never be a real woman" remains my personal favorite. Likely it's not on thermonuclear level, but it's certainly both funny and true. I often marvel at the contrast between what I read in the MSM (I only browse really) and what I read on the internet. On one, trans are a protected, somehow important, group, for reasons that escape me. On the other they are ruthlessly mocked, as they should be. I wonder if the trans issue is the one where 'the right' (actually just sane people) can gain the most traction, and this is why the left (the nutcases) fight so hard to defend them? Most curious.

By the way, where did Day of the Pillow come from? I first read it here, I think, though mayhaps it's an old one, and I'm just a newfag.

Blogger SJBC March 08, 2021 4:08 PM  

I would never use the term "SJW" because it stands for "Social Justice Warrior" which is a title they love. I always use the term "Anti-social Injustice Stormtrooper".

Blogger Reader March 08, 2021 4:11 PM  

I don't know if Mask Nazi is good rhetoric, but that is what I mentally refer to people who demand that others wear a mask. No random stranger has tried telling me to put on a mask, so I have not had the opportunity to try it out on anyone to get a reaction.

Blogger Robert Browning March 08, 2021 4:15 PM  

Where is Christ killer?

Blogger Balkan Yankee March 08, 2021 4:22 PM  

@98: "They usually give up on trying to convince me after that."

Garuna, it's more likely a case of them trying to convince themselves by convincing others.

Blogger M.S. March 08, 2021 4:31 PM  

Where would "liar" rank in the scale of rhetoric?

Blogger Cinco March 08, 2021 4:31 PM  

Question: Have you been vaccinated?
Answer: not yet, I am waiting for animal trials to conclude.

Blogger Cinco March 08, 2021 4:35 PM  

Question: Have you been vaccinated?
Answer: not yet, I am waiting for animal trials to conclude.

Blogger urthshu March 08, 2021 4:42 PM  

>>>you will never be white

When trying to talk race with blacks I use "I don't know if you're aware of it, but you're black"

Blogger Shlomo Lichtenstien March 08, 2021 4:44 PM  

@34 VD , It is starting to make sense to me now. You need to "sting" the other person for rhetoric to work. I mean, "really sting" without looking like your being an a-hole.
Thanks VD for making the effort to school some of us through this.

Blogger Silly but True March 08, 2021 4:50 PM  

Sharyl Attkisson has been doing God’s work on educating everyone on current modern contemporary use of “Fake News” term and origin.

She has several TedTalks but the transcript is good.

It’s yet another example of just how good Trump & his judgment and his rhetoric is. Trump absolutely and single-handedly ju-jitsu’ed Fake News back at its creators & attackers.

https://singjupost.com/sharyl-attkisson-how-real-is-fake-news-transcript/

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 08, 2021 4:57 PM  

'Your mother is a hamster' is truly the bon mot for all occasions.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli March 08, 2021 4:59 PM  

Me racist?! How dare you. I have SEVERAL very good Irish friends.

Blogger Independent Baptist March 08, 2021 5:08 PM  

You got rid of Netflix and Disney Plus? What are you scared of? Love is love.

"OK groomer"

Blogger jdwalker March 08, 2021 5:31 PM  

If there is an antifragile category for rhetoric, I would put fake news in it. Trump haters would constantly try to use and coopt it, but it only made it more effective against the intended targets.

Blogger hideous March 08, 2021 5:33 PM  

RandyJJ, you sound like a race jizzer. I think you get off by imagining micro-aggressions by millions of scary white supremacists rampaging throughout the country. Being a fake victim makes you feel really good, huh?

Now just run along and raceturbate yourself.

Blogger Patrick March 08, 2021 5:42 PM  

Would "fortified election" be good rhetoric for referring to the fake election of 2020 and the recent Time magazine article that attempted to cover for it? I have already noticed that questioning the election makes the rabbit people very uncomfortable.

Blogger Silly but True March 08, 2021 5:51 PM  

It doesn’t matter you’re a racist. Everyone is racist.
https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2017/10/24/559116373/poll-most-americans-think-their-own-group-faces-discrimination

The racism issue resolves to whether accusers believe science or not, or in any case why you should care.

Blogger Revelation Means Hope March 08, 2021 6:14 PM  

"You're a racist!"

"Yep."

It is like a bomb in their little fantasy garden.

Don't explain. Continue as if they'd never said anything.

Dazed and Confused and Angry is how they'll be as they rehash it in their little gamma brains over the next 10 years.

Blogger Nemesis The Warlock March 08, 2021 6:16 PM  

A few ideas. Blue Anon being so effective, how about Bluetard? (Has extra connotations in the UK too)
Then for the vaccine question, depending on the questioner,
"Do I look like a F***ing Retard to you?" or, borrowing from Solon above,
"No, F*** Off Cuck!" otherwise
"No, I'm already immune." or
"No, I'm not really feeling suicidal these days."
Just a bit of a fun.

Blogger cheddarman March 08, 2021 6:19 PM  

Nate is the Chuck Norris of rhetoric

Blogger Canadian Warlord March 08, 2021 6:21 PM  

Untried: Islamophilia

Blogger JamesB.BKK March 08, 2021 6:22 PM  

Maybe start with : Which not-vaccine are you referring to? They sit around talking about which of these concoctions is their favorite as if they know anything about them comparatively. From constitutional scholars, to election law procedural experts, to atmospheric science experts, to neo Keynesian economists just like that. With ideas so good, they’re mandatory. Complete with lese majeste treatments.

Blogger Chris March 08, 2021 6:23 PM  

@51: 'Muzzlecuck' really gets them going.

Blogger Pathfinderlight March 08, 2021 6:47 PM  

They hated Learn To Code because it highlighted their status as the expendable bottom of the leftist hierarchy.

When corrupt organizations fail, they burn from the bottom up.

Blogger Daniel March 08, 2021 7:08 PM  

SJBC, you clearly are an SJW. Real ones hate the term.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 08, 2021 7:14 PM  

Revelation Means Hope wrote:"You're a racist!"
"Yep."
It is like a bomb in their little fantasy garden.

Really, what else can you say?
It's either agree proudly, or it's ``am not!,'' ``are too!'' and ``you're a poopyhead!''

Blogger Daniel March 08, 2021 7:14 PM  

"Racist" will eventually go the way of "Jacobite," but not yet. You are a moron if you answer "yes" to the accusation. Your rhetoric is not primarily for the fool who has no reason, but the observers who do.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 08, 2021 7:15 PM  

Patrick wrote:Would "fortified election" be good rhetoric for referring to the fake election of 2020 ...
So far I'm sticking to fake election, with riffs on the theme like fraud election.

Blogger CM March 08, 2021 7:19 PM  

If you think you're being witty and clever, you're probably missing the target.

Story of my life.

Blogger CM March 08, 2021 7:23 PM  

Negrophilia is one I’d like to see tried. It sounds like necrophilia. That can’t be bad.

Blogger CM March 08, 2021 7:25 PM  

And Fox News - Faux News

Blogger RandyJJ March 08, 2021 7:45 PM  

@118

Your response demonstrated my point better than anything I could possibly have written.

Blogger Ozymandius March 08, 2021 7:50 PM  

I once responded to some militant pro-tranny commenter as Adolph Titler. The triggering this label caused was absolutely epic! He/She/It has probably never recovered.

Blogger Unknown March 08, 2021 8:18 PM  

Not yet Robert Browning, but it is coming for the Edomites.

Blogger Rick W March 08, 2021 8:48 PM  

How about “I’m not getting one of the GMO vaccines” ?

Blogger Crew March 08, 2021 8:50 PM  

Is Jewish Supremacist any sort of effective rhetoric?

Blogger Canadian Warlord March 08, 2021 8:55 PM  

@130. Daniel
>>>""Racist" will eventually go the way of "Jacobite," but not yet. You are a moron if you answer "yes" to the accusation. Your rhetoric is not primarily for the fool who has no reason, but the observers who do."
______________________________________________________
I get that it's not everyone's ideal description, but I think it's power can be reversed in terms of a protesting political party. I'd like to crowdfund a party here called "Racist Christian Patriarchy." RCP kinda rolls and the free advertising in this commie disaster of a country would be substantial.

It's the modern language and I don't feel like throwing the word away without using it, at least once.

Blogger VFM #7634 March 08, 2021 9:23 PM  

I would never use the term "SJW" because it stands for "Social Justice Warrior" which is a title they love. I always use the term "Anti-social Injustice Stormtrooper".

Nah, use SJW. It has a layer of sarcasm added which bites them better than trying to twist it around into some awkward alternative.

"Hey are you getting the vaccine, everyone else is."

"No, ill wait till the animal trials are done first."


Okay, I legit found that funny. It's almost like calling them NPCs.

Negrophilia is one I’d like to see tried. It sounds like necrophilia. That can’t be bad.

It's actually quite a bit better than my attempt to cook up a literal Greek version, which would be "aethiopophilia".

Blogger Digger Variant March 08, 2021 9:48 PM  

Sub-Saharan for Black.

An olden but still golden -- Judeo-Bolshevism for Marxism.

Human subspecies for human races (which happens to be scientifically accurate in addition to being horrifically politically incorrect).

Not-a-member-of-our-founding demographic for anyone living in the US who is not of NW European ancestry.

Pilpul to accurately characterize pseudoscientific argumentation offered in support of Leftist narratives.

Judeo-Islamism to properly distinguish the two polymoral, parasitic, dysfunctional Oriental religions from the functional Western Abrahamic religion of universal morality.

Blogger Hoyabembe March 08, 2021 9:48 PM  

Every woman I see celebrated on TV has a triumphant cunt face. Empty, self celebratory. Unpleasant, unearned self satisfaction. All based on lies. Triumphant cunt.

Blogger J Melcher March 08, 2021 10:15 PM  

"Scabs" -- particularly of non-citizens in the US workforce?

Blogger hideous March 08, 2021 10:20 PM  

Since you felt no sting or even irritation from my bait, you win the point and I concede my rhetoric is bad.
Well done RandyJJ.

But, just so you know, I think our host (perhaps will correct me if I remember wrong) has taught that juvenile, even non-sensical, rhetoric is not NECESSARILY bad for those reasons alone.

Blogger lord enlil March 08, 2021 10:27 PM  

I don't know man. The most effective rhetoric that I've personally heard is calling something "gay." Alot of the terms on that 7 tier list are gay asf.

Blogger TiredPoorHungry March 08, 2021 10:27 PM  

I had several marketwatch comments cancelled this week. The best one was...I will not be Fauci's voodoo doll.

Blogger Across the World March 08, 2021 11:09 PM  

I’m surprised no one has called the twitter blue checkmark SJW types ‘blueshirts’ or ‘twitter blueshirts’.

Adolph Titler is hilarious.

Blogger Across the World March 08, 2021 11:10 PM  

I’m surprised no one has called the twitter blue checkmark SJW types ‘blueshirts’ or ‘twitter blueshirts’.

Adolph Titler is hilarious.

Blogger Across the World March 08, 2021 11:10 PM  

I’m surprised no one has called the twitter blue checkmark SJW types ‘blueshirts’ or ‘twitter blueshirts’.

Adolph Titler is hilarious.

Blogger Dont Worry About Me March 08, 2021 11:18 PM  

How about "We Don't Need You" to pair with "You Have to Go Back"?

Every healthy part of a national SSH is strengthened by it. Alphas preach self-reliance, Sigmas nod their heads, Deltas pick up their hammers, and Betas get everyone to cheer for the Alpha. Gammas try to say we do, get their ass kicked, and Omegas are playing WoW.

Blogger Critias March 08, 2021 11:33 PM  

"You're a racist!"

Ideally you'll want something that turns it back on them, that cuts close to the truth and is barbed.

"Like you care!"
"Like you give a damn!"
Something along those lines - but better!

Blogger I don't think I like Conrad March 08, 2021 11:52 PM  

#130 [Daniel]

Have you given this any thought?! Why is one stupid to answer "yes" to "are you a racist?" It seems stupid instead to deny something that one is; that amounts to cowardice.

There is no point anymore in trying to shield ourselves from their displeasure/persecution, but instead to act like men and accept it willingly. We can do this knowing we are in the right. Homophobia, transphobia, climate change denier, conspiracy theorist, &c. are so many paper tigers. Why should racism be any different?

Communism, Marxism, conservatism, feminism, antidisestablishmentarianism, whatever + ism. Take a few minutes and look up the etymology. Race + ism is no different. The word meant racial consciousness. I have seen it used as early as 1897. It had probably been used earlier, and it was not then at all negative. Here is a somewhat older example:

https://www.etymonline.com/word/racism

It is bizarre that that word, like gay, has been appropriated so well. As it is, racial hatred really not need be a part of a racist, nationalist country at all. It is no sin to want your children to grow up in a nation with a shared history, culture, language, and blood.

Blogger Storm Rhode March 09, 2021 12:20 AM  

What about super straight?

Blogger SciVo March 09, 2021 1:14 AM  

@Crew:
Is Jewish Supremacist any sort of effective rhetoric?

No, use Untethered Supremacy instead.

I don't know why, but they use Supremacy. So do the same.

As for Untethered, they are an ethno-class. They go to the same schools, where they learn in the same language, absorb the same culture, and marry only each other. So they're an ethnicity and not just Jewish, and their main thing is that they are Citizens of the World.

Blogger Unknown March 09, 2021 1:47 AM  

Pedo Pushers? Sounds effective for adjacent LGBTQ supporters

Blogger Bigger Bunyip March 09, 2021 1:54 AM  

excellent theme Vox and loads of great comments. Cuck and NPC are my favs, NPC offends the progressive no end IMO because it's true. Rhetoric that is on the money is the most powerful.
I'd rank conspiracy theorist higher. It works like magic on boomers, and stopped 30+ years of non-NWO thinking. That it's less effective on gen Z shouldn't lower it's score.

Always best to go straight at rhetoric. My response to "are you an anti-vac type?" is "absolutely, and here's why". They just gave me an opening. Defending and explaining and minimizing doesn't work at all.

The weakness of the establishment left is evidenced in how much of their rhetoric is "anti X".

Blogger joe camel March 09, 2021 5:57 AM  

@148

How about Blue Cap?

Blogger Stilicho March 09, 2021 7:08 AM  

Ok, that's funny and effective

Blogger Stilicho March 09, 2021 7:18 AM  

>>Sub-Saharan for Black.<<

Just call them "Africans" . Make them own it and, in the US at least, it drops the "American" from the label--which highlights the fact they are not Americans while leaving them unsure of how to respond to a label that is kinda-sorta like their preferred group identity.

Blogger Stilicho March 09, 2021 7:26 AM  

Fat chicks--defend them by saying they are just big-boned

Sodomite- hilariously effective

Blue checks? I dunno, try "blue check special" but it may be lost on anyone after Gen X


Blogger J Melcher March 09, 2021 10:42 AM  

And, a running joke about Hunter Biden and family. This is calling out the media's history of attacks on other political celebrities and their families while protecting the current WH. And of course keeps the Biden crime family's abuses in the discussion by comparison with other, better headlined, very comparable news.

Hunter Biden makes Bristol Palin seem chaste.
HB makes Megan McCain seem clever.
HB makes Prince Harry seem wise in choosing sex partners.
HB makes Billy Carter seem urbane.
Not just family:

HB's military/war record makes John Kerry's seem almost honest.
HB makes Marion Berry seem forward-thinking.
HB makes Rob Ford seem efficient and effective.

Or the non-political:

HB makes Richard Pryor seem abstentious.
HB's company makes Kenneth Lay's Enron seem like a sound investment.









Blogger Digger Variant March 09, 2021 2:07 PM  

@160

"Just call them "Africans"".

Inaccurate, as all Africans are not Black; but, all Negroids are of Sub-Saharan descent. And, when you refer to the Sub-Saharan subspecies, you have the added benefit of accurately labeling them twice with a Latin prefix they take offense to.

"[Referring to them as] Africans ... drops the "American" from the label."

They'll simply add back the "Americans" like they've been doing whenever it suits them. I just refer to them (and others) as "members of not our founding demographic" which accurately implies their kind contributed no ideas, no moral principles, no leadership in creating the USA.

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2021 2:40 PM  

>> I don't know if Mask Nazi is good rhetoric, but that is what I mentally refer to people who demand that others wear a mask.

Face Diaper Mafia.

Blogger Akulkis March 09, 2021 2:45 PM  

>> I don't understand why "cult" is dialectical in this case.

It's logically true, doesn't have the emotional nintensity akin to a bird of prey biting through the palm of your hand.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 09, 2021 2:52 PM  

Digger Variant wrote:Inaccurate, as [sperg, sperg, sperg]
Dude, the test of rhetoric is whether it pushes emotional buttons. Accuracy is secondary.

Blogger SciVo March 09, 2021 5:34 PM  

@Stilicho:
Blue checks? I dunno, try "blue check special" but it may be lost on anyone after Gen X

I have seen Bluecheck Mafia in the wild. Good rhetoric will get repeated by normies, so if it isn't memorable and easy, then it's bad.

Blogger Unknown March 09, 2021 6:46 PM  

Is this effective rethoric?

"The new world order want to turn the whole world into a Tower of Bagel."

Blogger SciVo March 09, 2021 11:28 PM  

No, Unknown. I don't even know what you mean by that; and if it needs an explanation, then it's bad.

I wonder, maybe Cow Supremacy would better (for Citizen Of World). The fun thing is that we get to choose their name, since they will fiercely resist even admitting that they're a thing.

Blogger SciVo March 10, 2021 12:35 AM  

@Akulkis:
Face Diaper Mafia.

Bingo.

Blogger Philipski March 10, 2021 9:38 AM  

Serious question... Can you or someone explain this one?

Does it refer to something in Cambodian history / Maoist china???

Blogger Glen Sprigg March 10, 2021 1:31 PM  

I see that 'superstraight' ended up in the 'nuclear' category, but I'm wondering if it's going to stay there for long; the term has already been banned on Reddit, and the LGBT crowd are reacting to it like they just saw Donald Trump praying the Rosary while pouring cement at the southern border.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd March 10, 2021 2:42 PM  

Glen Sprigg wrote:... I'm wondering if it's going to stay there for long; the term has already been banned on Reddit, and the LGBT crowd are reacting to it ...
Nuclear as can be. Use it.

Blogger eyeslevel March 12, 2021 12:16 PM  

I'm not sure psychological warfare fits into the rhetoric/dialectic paradigm. Psychological warfare is not about appealing to people the way they are or appealing to their inherent interests or emotions. Also, it is not about logical arguments. Psychological warfare is about changing the way people think and feel. It is about rewiring people's brains, creating semi-permanent pathways through repetition. When an SJW screams "Nazi, racist, supremacist, bigot!!" in my face is that dialectic or rhetoric?

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