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The professional "conservative movement" is a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Democratic Party. They're literally playing for the other side.
A conservative political action committee is about to unleash a flurry of ads targeting six House Republicans who objected to certifying the Presidential election in January. Among the house members being targeted in the ads are Alabama Republican Representative Mo Brooks, and Northwest Florida Congressman Matt Gaetz.
The Republican Accountability Project says among their goals with the ad campaign is to work to unseat those who have tried to overturn a legitimate election and supported impunity for political violence, and to push back against lies and conspiracy theories about widespread voter fraud and “rigged” elections.
Never trust anyone who describes himself as a "conservative" these days. In the 68 years since the publication of The Conservative Mind, conservatism hasn't conserved anything at all. It's "nationalist" or nothing, because that is literally the only issue that actually matters anymore. The age of ideology ended in the USA in 1965, but it took until 2015 for Americans to even begin to realize this due to the slow-moving cancer of negative demographics.
Conservatism is cuckservatism. They are one and the same.
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Just like that, for no reason at all, everyone voted for Hitler
substitute Democrats for Bolsheviks and Republicans for Mensheviks, and things start to make sense.
Hmmm. Who steps up to the plate? DeSantis?
Are the Republican Accountability Project gay rapists too?
I have no idea what to think about the Matt Gaetz situation. There is a weird vibe coming off him. At the same time, things like this indicate that the allegations are likely to be lies or at the least, highly embellished. As our host says, the official story is always wrong. I wouldn't doubt there is a deep state component to the attacks on him. He has been deep in the cross hairs of the media for going on a year at this point.
Those are Swampy RINOs.
They have no beliefs except Power.
"Typical Jewish vindicitiveness and blatant, utterly shanmeless lies, i bet its a jew op", i thought.
Checks link, yep
https://accountability.gop/about/leadership/
So last night, after perusing the Shut up Trumps thread, I got this gnawing doubt.
I started to think of "the right" in 2015. Not the cuckservative right. The dissident or alt right back then. Around 2015.
Then thought of the condition it's in now after the Trump term.
Back then I said, as some others did as well, that Trump is "what they get" - they being the mainstream left and conservatives generally - for what they did to Ron Paul twice. Such as, here was a generally good guy who just wanted liberty and sound money and got shat all over.
That's pretty much the narrative I believed in. Oh so Ron Paul was the bad guy and what the GOPe did to him and the leftist media as well was Ok with the system and for that you get a Trump. Now suck it.
Lots of former libertarians, seeing what the establishment did, we're headed towards nationalism, having seen that 50 years of libertarian begging for freedom was going nowhere.
So dark enlightenment, neoreaction, gamergate, rK, etc.
I am starting to think I was wrong about that narrative. Trump was not "the reaction", it now seems, it was what put a stop to it. Especially now considering what condition "the right" is in these days. All we got to show for it is boomercons and qboomers and Nick F.
Whether this was an "all in the plan" intentional move or merely just the results of the usual foibles and such, I do not know.
Surprise, surprise.
Bill Kristol and The Bulwark crew are behind this latest gas lighting. Got to keep the checks coming! Cruise ship conservatives.
https://www.opensecrets.org/news/2021/01/never-trump-dark-money-group-to-spend-millions-backing-pro-impeachment-republicans/
>This is what Yehovah of Hosts says: “I will save My people from the land of the east and from the land of the west. 8I will bring them back to dwell in Jerusalem, where they will be My people, and I will be their faithful and righteous God.”
The final regathering of God's people is at hand, they are known as Israel/Judah, but as we know, there is neither Jew nor Greek in Christ.
All that matters now is faith, belief on His son, who will return within 12 years, and living a righteous life. The nations, all of them, every single one, will be smitten, due to their pagan ways, their atheism, their judaism, their islamism, their chuchianity, their ignoring of God's laws.
Famine approaches, crops are failing all over the world.
Earthquakes and volcanoes are on the up.
And yet no one even bothers to remember the Sabbath.
Repent, urgently. So that you make the cut.
>Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of My Father in heaven.
>But Jesus replied, “Who is My mother, and who are My brothers?” 49Pointing to His disciples, He said, “Here are My mother and My brothers. 50For whoever does the will of My Father in heaven is My brother and sister and mother.”
The will of God is the laws He gave to Moses at Horeb (Malachi 4:4).
Not a jot nor tittle of the law shall pass til heaven and earth have passed (Matthew 5:18)
"...those who have tried to overturn a legitimate election"
What legitimate election was that? I don't recall one, certainly not in 2020.
Conservatives are not on our side, and as stupid as they are, they at least know this. They will sell you out for 30 pieces of silver at the first opportunity. Do not trust conservatives. Do not talk to conservatives. They are just as much our enemy as progressives.
The Republican party called me yesterday to ask for more money. I told them they sold out Trump and the American people and that I would never give them another dime until they started working for the people.
I recommend people check out Jessie Czebotar. Particularly her interviews on George Iceman's Real Report. She was the Fifth Mother of Darkness in the Illuminati. She was Gods mole in their system. She has amazing insights into what we are actually up against. We are literally doing battle with principalities of darkness. The world is literally being run by a well organized and funded as well as extremely pervasive Satanic Cult.
Chinese/Dominion money funding this group of Commies, I assume.....
"Conservatives" still acting like liberalism doesn't destroy the country...
Aye, and leave the UN, kick silicon valley off the continent and tell them to go home to Guangzhou. If anyone wants to be here, they need to take a literacy test, history test, and make a damn good case why they want to be here. Many other countries do that anyway. Nationalism is fine and celebrated in countries worldwide but when it's American Nationalism, for whatever reason, people have a hissy fit about it and equate it to Nazism. What a backwards world we live in.
Help. Help. The Kristol Klown Konservatives are attacking!
> A conservative political action committee is about to unleash a flurry of ads targeting six House Republicans who objected to certifying the Presidential election in January.
As long as those six stand firm in their positions, the ads will actually help them. Those paying for the ads believe in propaganda too much to realize this.
> Are the Republican Accountability Project gay rapists too?
The odds are better than 50/50.
> Checks link, yep
OK, make that 75/25.
> Bill Kristol and The Bulwark crew are behind this latest gas lighting.
80/20.
> who will return within 12 years
"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
IMO The Gaetz thing is BS. "They're" attacking at all angles to discredit their most outspoken and influential critics now, accusing him of exactly they (Dem/Commies/Neocons) are guilty of.
In Michigan we have a muslim congresswoman, and the holocaust makes her smile.
Hmmm...
As noted by the poster above, look who is leading this smear op https://accountability.gop/about/leadership/
Hmmm....
How does one innervate the Kristol's in Christendom?They have to have some things that drive them to apoplexy.
That eacha cohen coward shatting his pants when called out at a rural gun store is a clue to their weakness.
I am tryong to bottle that fir wide distribution
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These people have taken over the Texas GOP by recruiting Governor Abbott.
Texas will go blue next election at this rate if these people are not primaried, and I wouldn't blame them.
I wonder how long they think they can rule if they fully expose the farce of the two party system. Trump Voters are disgusted with the Republican/Conservative Turncoats and are primed to accept the Idea that we are living under the increasing despotic single party system. Betrayal is an emotional cluster that doesn't fade like more fleeting emotions it persists its like Love inverted.
Our ruling class has decided to quash the dissent and shut people up using coercion this compresses the resentment and distills it into something more powerful and potent. The failure of the 'Expertise" is nearly complete as they are stumbling towards conflicts that they cannot win.
The most critical demographic are those who respond atypically to fear stimuli...
Bill Kristol embodies Backpfeifengesicht.
It's a very short list of people who embody it as much as he does. You can put David Hogg on that list. And Peter Strzok.
Always have been.
He isn't on the radar yet.
k johnson wrote:If anyone wants to be here, they need to take a literacy test, history test, and make a damn good case why they want to be here. ... Nationalism is fine and celebrated in countries worldwide but when it's American Nationalism ...
What does literacy and history have to do with nationalism? Either you are born into a nation or you are not.
Gaetz was a target of deep state?
Curiouser and curiouser.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/documents-detail-alleged-matt-gaetz-25-million-extortion-scheme
We’re way beyond full. We need a 50 year immigration moratorium, providing something resembling the USA is still here. I’m not worried, whatever replaces it will go way further than just banning them.
Thank You blog Master for this info. I have not given the R's any money since Trump and [team?] failed in their duty as I saw it. Now, I know where to direct that money I can spare. High on the list is Marjorie Greene, Mo Brooks, etc. I would set the R money machine that keeps sending me begging emails to spam control except it feels so good to delete them, hang up on them.
In its way it smells like a small victory.
Gary wrote:The will of God is the laws He gave to Moses at Horeb (Malachi 4:4).
Not a jot nor tittle of the law shall pass til heaven and earth have passed (Matthew 5:18)
Gary, read Matthew 22:37-40. Love God and love your neighbor sums up all the law and the prophets.
The law of Moses - all of Deuteronomy, Numbers and Leviticus - was a set of rules God was willing for them to live by. They could not live up to it, so it was never more than a tutor to teach them of their sinful nature. See Romans 7:9-10. It was never God's will or preference; see Matthew 19:8.
Doktor Jeep wrote:I am starting to think I was wrong about that narrative. Trump was not "the reaction", it now seems, it was what put a stop to it. Especially now considering what condition "the right" is in these days.
Trump might have been the populist knife that one Cabal faction held at the throats of the other factions. Or, he might have been a populist decoy to lure us down some blind alley. Either way, he no longer has the support of whatever faction of Cabal put him into the White House. He's no longer relevant.
Our support for Trump was the reaction to the GOP screwing the populists and libertards. Our support for some future ultra-nationalist will be the reaction to the GOP screwing America.
As much as I am opposed Sam Harris’s views, there’s one thing he’s right about:
“As soon as someone uses the word ‘faith’, the conversation is over.”
All that matters now is blik.
It’ll be fascinating to watch the Con, Inc guys being ejected from the party as Trump consolidates his power. This is clearly a power struggle, and I’m confident Trump is going to win it, if he hasn’t already.
If the GOP is the White party, then as the neo-clowns go home to the Dems, they’re going to quit pretending they were ever really White to begin with.
Chesterton was right, almost 100 years ago.
I'm now identifying as a Conservationist. Conserve nature, art, culture, education, tradition, and my race for use and stewardship by me descendants.
Whatever Trump's motives or whomever he maybe in alliance with, we do know some of the policies he put in place did and do work, and that has to piss off a lot of bright people. It is a mystery why some of it was not done in the first year more aggressively or at all like the H1B issue and others.
Amazing that just a few years ago in 1999 Seattle it was the marxist black bloc anarchists who were the anti-globalist nationalists, torching Starbuckses to spite the WTO.
Used to be conservative was regarded as kind of a right of center Republican. Conserving the constitution. What has been revealed is they conserve the status quo, whatever it may be.
Basically these days progressives achieve, conservatives consolidate. I hate them so much.
He could be a judas goat though. My intuition always says to not trust him.
"Unleash a flurry" of CNN ads "targeting" those who don't tow the official line?
Ooh the language! So Stalinist! So powerful! So (((shapiro)))!
Fo4Ho1 wrote:Hmmm. Who steps up to the plate? DeSantis?
"Me."
Doktor Jeep wrote:I am starting to think I was wrong about that narrative. Trump was not "the reaction", it now seems, it was what put a stop to it.
If you cast your mind back to 2015/16, you should remember that Trump was not our last chance, it was their last chance: Trump was the bludgeon that "the base" used to threaten, and now kill, the Republican Party. After all, for the last 20 years the GOP has snatched defeat from the jaws of victory again and again, and pushed "electable" candidates like McCain and Romney.
No, this was not at all a victory for the uniparty; look at what they've had to give up in order to push through their corrupt in-politics-longer-than-most-people-have-been-alive Boomer/Silent candidates.
Donald Trump was to politics what GameStop was to investment: a "screw you, die!" move, not about "making a profit" but about making the enemies lose.
Balkan Yankee wrote:Help. Help. The Kristol Klown Konservatives are attacking!
That made me laugh.
every true nation has the concept of the other. call them goyim,
aliens, foreigners, illegals, whatever. there will always be nations. G-d refers to them throughout bible.
Interesting that the news article doesn't make it obvious this is just Kristol and the Bulwark Magazine. Also interesting that Neuamann was Kelly's Deputy Chief of Staff while he was at DHS. And a former bushie. Trump sure could pick them! He seems to have been oblivious that he was surrounding himself with traitorous Bushies and enemies.
@Geoffroi de Bohemonde
Found it and listening. Thanks for the recommendation.
@ cowherd,
I have read it all, many times, thanks. It never contradicts itself.
You're arguing with the words of Jesus on the subject though, very strange. Not a jot nor tittle of the law shall pass. He came NOT to destroy the law or prophets, but to fulfill.
He fulfilled the new covenant, Jeremiah 31:31-33, through the blood of Christ, Luke 22:20, the laws written on the hearts of God's people.
Not on yours though eh?
Repent, sinner, your pastor has been tickling your ear. Lawlessness IS sin (1 John 3).
@40. Silly but True, re. 1999 Seattle marxist black bloc anarchists
These guys are almost always paid provocateurs. I'm glad it's a French word because in Montebello Quebec they got caught with their knees down - front page newspaper stories in the lamestream with the cops arresting them while prone showed they all wore the same boots. Alex Jones on-the-spot reporting back then in Seattle said the same thing but of course that's "kookery" (was that the original "Police State" film by Jones?). Politics of marxism and state-ism aside, we've seen this over and over - the cops send in the 'protestors' to stir up the normies so the riot batons can emerge. Even the 2011 hockey riots in wankouver follow this pattern, reddit users have tracked these guys down to an actual contractor.
"I'm now identifying as a Conservationist."
I'm identifying as a White American Nationalist.
It became quite clear to anyone with room temperature and above IQ what "conservatism" was about based on how they treated Ron Paul and the tea party movement over a decade ago. None of us should be surprised by any of this.
I honestly believe the key issue is the interventionist foreign policy (e.g. American Empire). I really think this is/was the basis of their opposition to Trump. Why are they so obsessed with maintaining the interventionist foreign policy? I think its nothing more than M-O-N-E-Y. There is money in it, tons of it. The interventionist foreign policy is a giant gravy train for those in on it. Remember that GAO report about 4-5 years ago where they could account for well over a trillion dollars worth of government spending? I think that's the gravy train.
Time to hold the Republican Accountability Project ACCOUNTABLE....
Useful idiots only go where they are useful.
The nice thing about January 6th was that for a few short hours of one day, the Federal Capitol building was not defiled by the presence of politicians.
@Doktor Jeep We all know how you feel at this moment, but I don’t believe it was intentional. In 2016, We saw the Megan Kelly moment that really made Trump’s popularity increase tenfold. God, even boomer Scott Adams was right in about that one. Does anyone really think a lapdog careerist like Kelly just Intentionally threw her career away as a part of some conspiracy. Miles Mathis might. And Kelly is hardly different from Ivanka: I do believe, at the highest level, we’re paying for years of Americans embracing an anti-intellectual, capitalistic (Money and Sex) culture, this is apparent in celebrity, political figures even whom it is very hard to imagine reading a book, beyond maybe The Secret.
Before anyone wants to expound the virtues of Ron Paul, and how he isn't a "conservative," kindly explain how Ron Paul, who was chairman of the Subcommittee on Domestic Monetary Policy and Technology, never did much of anything about anything in the decade plus he was in Congress. Only one bill he introduced (out of 620) got signed into law, and that was a minor act to allow for a courthouse sale.
Ron Paul was just as much a performative act as the rest of the "conservative" establishment. Judge your elected representatives by what they do, not by what they say. Ron Paul was a great talker, but didn't accomplish a flipping thing, and that is no different than conservatives in general.
@gary. My thoughts and wishes. Take your old covenant Hebrew Roots pharisaism to Parler. Or better yet, to Israel. When's the last time you offered a lamb, pigeon, shekle, and lived in a booth? Have you traveled to the temple Mount lately? 3 times per year? Why not?
It furthers the final end game for (((them))),
Their just a bunch of losers who want the "cool" kids to like and respect them.
That is what makes all alleged conservative a bunch of pussies. The burden of being unliked is too high a cost to pay to be right.
The test I give people is:
SJW Leftist: "Trump is literally Hitler."
Actual Conservative: "I wish."
Anyone offended by the response is either 1) Too stupid to know that the SJW Leftist is not having a dialogue or 2) a coward who cannot bear that even an unconvertable swine misunderstands them or 3) both.
I went from conservative to Voxist. Much better.
@Didas, so you're another one who wants to ignore the commands of Jesus, and of God eh?
Many such cases, hence the wrath of God approaches.
I offer lamb every sabbath, as commanded.I dwelled in a booth last feast of booths, as it happens. I obey all of my Father's commands, as surely do all of those in Christ, who have the laws written in their hearts, through his blood:
'Everyone who does sin does lawlessness as well. Indeed, sin is lawlessness. 5But you know that Christ appeared to take away sins, and in Him there is no sin. 6No one who remains in Him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has seen Him or known Him.
7Little children, let no one deceive you: The one who does righteousness is righteous, just as Christ is righteous. 8The one who does sin is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the very start. This is why the Son of God was revealed, to destroy the works of the devil.'
Sin IS lawlessness, sinner. Repent, time is short, the lukewarm will be spewed out, sooner rather than later.
'Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too, 30since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.
31'Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Certainly not! Instead, we uphold the law.'
You never knew him didas.
'Fear God, obey His commands for this is the whole duty of man'. (Ecc 12:13)
theartistformerlyknownasgeorge wrote:SJW Leftist: "Trump is literally Hitler."
Actual Conservative: "I wish."
"Actual Conservative"?
I guess copying the loser who got the country he led bombed, burned, and raped matches with the conservative modus operandi.
Re: "They are just as much our enemy" - More our enemy. No eyes in our backs to see the knife coming.
The government in Washington DC is increasingly not the government of the various places in this country. Waiting for that great tearing sound.
> and pushed "electable" candidates like McCain and Romney.
The RNC sent me a "survey" which was actually a request for money asking me who I thought the candidate would be. They actually asked me to list the ones I supported. Those aren't at all the same thing. :)
Since the reply mail wasn't postage paid I threw it in the trash.
> You're arguing with the words of Jesus on the subject though, very strange.
When you claim to know when Christ will return, so are you. Given that, why should we listen to anything else you have to say?
I've been using "eat dirt and die" in my replies to Repb $ begging, but "screw you, die" is even better!
Bucephalus wrote:I went from conservative to Voxist. Much better.
Do not put your trust in princes, or in mortal men.
I mean, this site is literally the only one I feel is value added in checking daily. But you shouldn't define yourself explicitly in reference to other people.
Yeah, I'm really fun at parties.
Oh, didn’t you know, Didas Kalos, that Gary is God’s own appointed messenger for these troubled times? Just ask him, he’ll tell you. He was spewing the same nonsense at AC’s blog, till AC threatened to ban him. Now he comments here.
On the topic of cucks, I just got an email from Dennis Prager. I have had no prior business relationship with him. The subject was "Is there a moral case for capital punishment?". This is peak cucking. I'm a late bloomer and a recent convert and I know our Good Book and common law lay out a case for it.
These RAP losers (https://accountability.gop/) are actually financed by the "Defending Democracy Together (DDT)" super PAC (FEC Committee ID C90019316).
DDT raised $15.4 million for the 2020 cycle. No guesses as to who is behind DDT, an apt acronym for themselves.
"Defending Democracy Together is a right-leaning 501(c)(4) advocacy and incubation group founded in Washington, D.C. in January 2018. Its leadership consists of former Weekly Standard editor-at-large William “Bill” Kristol, Ethics and Public Policy Center senior fellow Mona Charen, and other conservatives..."
https://www.influencewatch.org/non-profit/defending-democracy-together/
[Vomiting noise here.]
DDT's FEC info is found here:
https://www.fec.gov/data/committee/C90019316/
Amusingly, Opensecrets.org classifies DDT as "Democratic/Liberal".
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C90019316/summary/2020
TL;DR: RAP is a false-flag operation masquerading as a "conservative PAC." The legacy MSM reporters and editors are too compromised/lazy to write the truth, so they'll spew out propaganda that gets fed to places like Huntville, Ala., and their garbage media, hoping RAP can 'shuck n' jive' the rubes down South into believing their peers are turning against the Constitution and embracing the NWO:
https://whnt.com/news/republican-accountability-project-targets-mo-brooks-and-matt-gaetz-in-1m-ad-campaign/
They'll eventually get too much public exposure (caught/ruined) and like other RINO/Dem false-flag super PACs, terminate the org and morph into something else equally vile and disgusting.
Roaches, every last one of them.
Their excuse has always been, "unlike Democrats, we hold our own accountable."
Unfortunately, their own is all they hold accountable.
Fake opposition in every sense of the word.
I don't think it's coincidence that Matt Gaetz was recently the target of an extortion scheme (the usual garbage about sex with underage girls)... tho that kinda backfired, because instead of folding he fired straight back at 'em, and turns out the culprit was some DOJ flunky. Ooops.
As to this supposedly-GOP operation... more like a false flag op by longtime leftist moles:
https://capitalresearch.org/article/leftist-dark-money-funds-conservatives-to-stab-trump-voters-in-the-back/
https://pjmedia.com/columns/victoria-taft/2020/07/14/wow-gop-never-trumpers-are-paid-by-a-radical-leftist-billionaire-n640740
https://thefederalist.com/2020/02/19/based-on-tax-filings-bill-kristols-been-a-democrat-for-years/
SecondComingOfBast wrote:Their excuse has always been, "unlike Democrats, we hold our own accountable."
Unfortunately, their own is all they hold accountable.
And their version of morality which is enforced is based on the morality that they accepted from their so called opponents with a time delay.
They completely buy into the left with a time delay.
James Dixon wrote:> You're arguing with the words of Jesus on the subject though, very strange.
When you claim to know when Christ will return, so are you. Given that, why should we listen to anything else you have to say?
Gator McCluskey wrote:Oh, didn’t you know, Didas Kalos, that Gary is God’s own appointed messenger for these troubled times? Just ask him, he’ll tell you. He was spewing the same nonsense at AC’s blog, till AC threatened to ban him. Now he comments here.
Gary failed the Witch Test.
That's the one where you confess Jesus Christ is Lord and God raised Him from the dead.
There is no reason to pay any attention to him, and his monomania will get him banned eventually.
@66 Dixon,
>When you claim to know when Christ will return, so are you. Given that, why should we listen to anything else you have to say?
I do not the date of the day of wrath of my Heavenly Father, also the date of the return of Jesus. But I do not argue with Jesus on that subject. Go and read what he said on the subject again.
Noah was given the date of the flood, and the world had 120 years warning.
This time the world has been given 12 years warning, by me.
Is anyone really surprised that it's coming, you have eyes don't you?
@Gator,
I just quote the scriptures and call people to repentance, as everyone lives lawlessly these days, and that won't cut it for entry to my Father's kingdom. If that offends you, or anyone else, that's your problem, not mine.
Hamster, I have quoted Jesus' prophecy from heaven in the book of Revelation, so perhaps you could have deduced my belief on the current dwelling place of the Lord?You dont know the scriptures I see.
I am all about my Father and the Lord and righteousness. I respond to questions and false accusations, and my doctrine is not my own, I am taught by my Father. If that gets me banned, so be it, my Father's will be done. The first shall be last...looking at Britain and America.
I only said it was much better. Yes, you must be a real hoot.
@Gary,
Satan "just quoted scripture" to tempt Jesus in the desert.
You need to get an understanding of dispensation in the Bible. You are living in the time of the prophets, known since the world began. Christians are in a different dispensation, the mystery hidden from the world since before the world was created and first revealed to the apostle Paul,the Body of Christ.
One can only enter the Body of Christ through faith in the work of Jesus, not your own works. In fact Paul warned a legalistic mindset destroys the very faith that saves you.
I could go on, but that should be enough to set you on the path of truth. A good resource for dispensationalism is Richard Jordan. He's on You Tube.
Gary, who is Jesus? What is your relation to Him?
@Lee,
Why do you argue from ignorance, making Jesus out to be a liar? You think there are no more prophets? Wrong:
'And I will empower my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
4These witnesses are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.a 5If anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouths and devours their enemies. In this way, anyone who wants to harm them must be killed. 6These witnesses have power to shut the sky so that no rain will fall during the days of their prophecy, and power to turn the waters into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague as often as they wish.'
You will just ignore them, as they will be like all other prophets, calling for obedience to the laws of God.
One enters the new covenant via baptism into Christ. One does not then continue in sin, one submits to the Holy Spirit, and one is purified and sanctified. Read 1 John, but don't stop at chapter 1, as the pastors do, read chapters 2-4, and note that sin is lawlessness, and it is impossible to sin if in Christ. If you sin continually, as you think God's laws are legalistic, you are lost, in Satan, not in Christ.
@Lee,
> In fact Paul warned a legalistic mindset destroys the very faith that saves you.
This Paul quoted below, or some other Paul you know?:
'Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Certainly not! Instead, we uphold the law.'
You have your churchy opinions, and they are all wrong, do not bother me again. You don't grasp that being justified was what grace gave us whilst we were still in sin, ignorant, it is not a licence to toss away the laws of God and continue as lawless pagans. A common view in churches to be sure. 'We're not under the law, we're under grace' they squeal, never reading the next verses:
'What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law, but under grace? Certainly not! 16Do you not know that when you offer yourselves as obedient slaves, you are slaves to the one you obey, whether you are slaves to sin leading to death, or to obedience leading to righteousness? 17But thanks be to God that, though you once were slaves to sin, you wholeheartedly obeyed the form of teaching to which you were committed. 18You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.'
The vast majority remain as slaves to sin, not slaves to righteousness, hence God is mighty peeved, the blood of His son spilled, only to be wasted by those given the grace. Seeds, seeds, blown away, choked, very few grow strongly.
>> I'm now identifying as a Conservationist. Conserve nature, art, culture, education, tradition, and my race for use and stewardship by me descendants.
Weak. Try Reactionary. Your goal should not be to merely preserve what is left, but to rebuild what has been destroyed,
Gary, nowhere did I condone sinning.
3 O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
4 Have ye suffered so many things in vain? if it be yet in vain.
5 He therefore that ministereth to you the Spirit, and worketh miracles among you, doeth he it by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
6 Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.
7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.
13 Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:
14 That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.
15 Brethren, I speak after the manner of men; Though it be but a man's covenant, yet if it be confirmed, no man disannulleth, or addeth thereto.
16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.
17 And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
18 For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gary, by faith we are incorporated into the Body of Christ. And Christ is incorporated into the believer.
There are many false profits, but if you accept Christ as your redeemer, sin no longer has power over you, and the spirit of Christ will lead you to good works.
Unless you don't believe in the power of Gods word of course...
Gary, as pointed out above, animal sacrifice and pilgrimage to Jerusalem is required under the law. As is three different tithes, circumcision, and strict dietary restrictions. Do you follow all that? Does your woman isolate herself seven days during her mensus? Do you honor the Sabbath by not even preparing meals?
Let me ask you, how closely did the law of Moses correlate with the law of the elders during Jesus time. People like you were constantly criticizing Jesus for not following the law, and ultimately crucified Him for it.
Yeah, people like you. Own it.
Gary, shut the fuck up. People like you are exactly why there is no discussion of theology on this blog.
“These people draw near to Me with their mouths
and honor Me with their lips,
but their hearts are far from Me.
Their worship of Me is but rules taught by men.
14Therefore I will again confound these people
with wonder upon wonder.
The wisdom of the wise will vanish,
and the intelligence of the intelligent will be hidden.'
Wise and learned you are, not me.
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