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Saturday, April 03, 2021

FSF fights convergence

The outcome is still in doubt, but for once, the software developers are resisting the forces of convergence:

The progressive priesthood noticed the existence of another priesthood among software engineers, and vigorously attempted to converge it. Since convergence was having insufficient success, not in that the software priesthood espoused red pilled views, but that they failed to view knowledge of the latest shibboleths for sexual perversions as higher status than the latest shibboleths about software, the progressive priesthood proceeded to use more vigorous and aggressive measures, similar to those it has been using against “nazis” and “fascists”. The existence of high status shibboleths that it had not deemed high status enraged them.

To which attack, the software priesthood responded like a wet noodle. I was shocked and outraged by the feebleness and gutlessness of ESR’s limpwristed pushback when a bunch of sockpuppets in his comments section set to doing to some other man in the free software movement what had earlier been done to ESR.

The Software Priesthood is still saying “we are progressives too”, but this has not been working for them. The only thing that is going to work is identifying and purging the enemy. And since they made no attempt to identify and purge the enemy, I figured that they were a lost cause.

Well, the Software Priesthood are showing signs of life. And the enemy is becoming more visible and distinct as the enemy, shedding its “hail fellow engineer” disguise. The enemy just does not like Western Civilization, nor any of the things that Western Civilization in its greatness created, because what Western Civilization in its greatness created makes their mascots look like plains apes.

This may well turn out to be merely another Comicsgate, which was rapidly conquered by enemy entryists, but the people running the entryists against Comicsgate were smarter than the fans. They are nowhere near as smart as the people they have been purging from the Free Software movement. We shall see what happens.

One thing I've noticed is that most of the tough-talking libertarians fold like paper napkins soaked in batter acid in the face of SJW attack. But now that the big-talking weak sisters have been exposed as useless surrender monkeys, people are beginning to understand that they need to find the will to resist the infiltration and convergence on their own.  

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24 Comments:

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 03, 2021 3:49 PM  

The free cult versus the woke cult.

Blogger GammaCatch April 03, 2021 4:26 PM  

Tough-talking libertarians fold like paper napkins soaked in battery acid in the face of SJW attack because they do not acknowledge that simple Truth of Man and Nature: If you do not Silence those that want to Silence you, YOU will be Silenced! Every time. It is why people who say "I'm not anti-Mask/Lockdown, I just don't want anyone forcing anyone to do it" ALWAYS lose. A neutral position can not defend against an aggressor. Which is why "Freedom of Speech" does not work. Any position that allows for an antithetical philosophy as part of itself WILL fall to that philosophy.

Blogger Imwill April 03, 2021 4:33 PM  

Stallman is a pedophile apologist and the FSF backs him.
Burn them both to the ground.
It’s about time we have some moral standards in those we hold in high regard.

Blogger Keith April 03, 2021 4:57 PM  

It kinda makes sense. There are only so many slots for “social media manager” for a software project. At some point the heavy hitters were going to notice that the people making the most noise don’t actually know how to fix problems with or improve the actual opus they are working on.

Blogger Dole April 03, 2021 5:14 PM  

They won't have trouble with hiring any time soon.

Blogger bramley bramley bramley April 03, 2021 5:21 PM  

Stallman is no hero, but the ideas he had about software are still relevant, even more so in light of the moves being made by AppleSoft et al to lock users of their products out of full control of the machines they own.

The software world is hated by the equalists because it is such raw proof of the benefits of meritocracy. Good code is good code, bad code is bad. Nobody cares if it was written by a disabled African transgender muslim jew in a shack on a garbage heap, or a Danish billionaire spilling caviar on his laptop while sat on a gold throne in a private jet, if it's good that's all that needs be said for it to qualify. And unlike many other fields it's not up for debate, there's no qualitative aspect. No wonder they are out to wreck it if they can.

It's all so tiresome.

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 03, 2021 5:38 PM  

The FreeBSD project somehow managed to reverse convergence, though final results are still pending. SJWs got enough control to enact a Code of Conduct that was so bad it became a laughingstock in the industry. A year or so later, the developers replaced it with a Code that, while not perfect, got rid of the slanted language. They also got rid of the main instigator. Some of her orbiters remain, and the forums now have more trolls than before, hanging around looking for chances to take potshots at the project. But it's good to see that a project can turn it around, if the people who do the work recognize the danger.

Blogger Cloudswrest April 03, 2021 6:42 PM  

Was just perusing “Free Software Foundation” on Twitter, and a not insignificant number of complainants have their pronouns in the bio.

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 03, 2021 8:05 PM  

a not insignificant number of complainants have their pronouns in the bio.

As the author says, most of the programmers are still in the "we're progressives just like you, we promise!" stage of trying to placate the woke attack mob. But that doesn't work, of course, because they can't stop being white men, which is their real crime. And gradually, individual programmers are realizing it.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 8:11 PM  

Imwill wrote:Stallman is a pedophile apologist and the FSF backs him.
Burn them both to the ground.

If they are fighting our enemies, don't light 'em up just yet.
Imwill wrote:It’s about time we have some moral standards in those we hold in high regar
I hope you don't mean that we should form a circular firing squad around someone who is fighting our enemies.
We should hold our own to a moral standard, but Stallman isn't our own. Also, we should not use that as an excuse to stop anyone who is attacking our enemies.

Blogger machinephilosophy April 03, 2021 8:54 PM  

Revolution O/S is still a very relevant documentary, and I recommend checking it out. But one thing about Stallman: he doesn't work for free.

Blogger Cloudswrest April 03, 2021 10:35 PM  

Here's what Stallman was guilty of, just being autistically accurate, like a good programmer. From here: https://selamjie.medium.com/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794
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The announcement of the Friday event does an injustice to Marvin
Minsky:
“deceased AI ‘pioneer’ Marvin Minsky (who is accused of assaulting
one of Epstein’s victims [2])”
The injustice is in the word “assaulting”. The term “sexual assault”
is so vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation:
taking claims that someone did X and leading people to think of it as
Y, which is much worse than X.
The accusation quoted is a clear example of inflation. The reference
reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein’s harem.
(See https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/9/20798900/marvin-minsky-jeffrey-epstein-sex-trafficking-island-court-records-unsealed.)
Let’s presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it).
The word “assaulting” presumes that he applied force or violence, in
some unspecified way, but the article itself says no such thing.
Only that they had sex.
We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that
she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was
being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her
to conceal that from most of his associates.
I’ve concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it
is absolutely wrong to use the term “sexual assault” in an accusation.
Whatever conduct you want to criticize, you should describe it with a
specific term that avoids moral vagueness about the nature of the
criticism.

Blogger Bigger Bunyip April 03, 2021 11:01 PM  

I get that software development is diversified, and in Iceland and Tokyo etc., but silicon valley is the capital and is deep in SJW territory. A tactical disadvantage.

Blogger Kevin Smith April 03, 2021 11:45 PM  

@3 For some reason I can never trust anyone who uses 'apologist' as a pejorative, and those against whom it is used are innocent until proven guilty in my mind.

Blogger Imwill April 04, 2021 3:29 AM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:Imwill wrote:Stallman is a pedophile apologist and the FSF backs him.

Burn them both to the ground.


If they are fighting our enemies, don't light 'em up just yet.

Imwill wrote:It’s about time we have some moral standards in those we hold in high regar

I hope you don't mean that we should form a circular firing squad around someone who is fighting our enemies.

We should hold our own to a moral standard, but Stallman isn't our own. Also, we should not use that as an excuse to stop anyone who is attacking our enemies.


Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Stallman is a gamma weirdo who is deified in certain circles by the wannabe tech libertarians.
Stallman has decades of pro-pedophilia commentary. He also creeped out women at MIT... Where Epstein poured in money hand over fist.

I find any support of Stallman and now the Free Software Foundation to be indirectly supporting Cabal, no matter the noble free software ideals.

Stallman and FSF = Globohomo
May they burn in Hell.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling April 04, 2021 8:20 AM  

@15 Imwill

Yes, that's exactly what I mean. Stallman is a gamma weirdo who is deified in certain circles by the wannabe tech libertarians.

These "wannabe tech libertarians" including RMS have created more valuable stuff for civilization than you or I have or ever will, and it's by definition not controlled by Globohomo; this topic is about the lasted run the SJWs are making against the FSF and RMS. If Stallman is a Gamma today it's because age isn't factored into the socio-sexual hierarchy, back when he was younger he was a Sigma.

Stallman has decades of pro-pedophilia commentary. He also creeped out women at MIT... Where Epstein poured in money hand over fist.

Do not know about the first, the second was sometimes true, the last is completely unconnected to anything RMS has to do with, the money went to the Media Lab and one professor who does very far out stuff.

I find any support of Stallman and now the Free Software Foundation to be indirectly supporting Cabal, no matter the noble free software ideals.

Stallman and FSF = Globohomo


This is a guilt by association claim which doesn't consider anything the FSF actually does. Given that they create general-purpose technology they support everyone, just like electricity does. The Google servers providing this blog run on Linux which is based on some GNU technology like GCC as does the workstation on which I'm composing this message.

Blogger Canada78Bear April 04, 2021 10:03 AM  

Of note, while I seem to recall the Apache Software Foundation having Jesus somewhere in their charter/?? I have noticed that they are still holding into Meritocracy.

They still actively promote merit and work product to be given the keys of management.

But they seem to be the only remaining bastion of decency.

Code of Conduct policies were the crack for the rot to set in.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 04, 2021 10:48 AM  

Imwill wrote:Stallman and FSF = Globohomo
May they burn in Hell.

Sure, let's give them time to take some other enemies with them.
Don't be an idiot, urwill. It is idiotic to interrupt enemies who are fighting among themselves.

Who knows, maybe actually fighting back against the SJWs will lead some of the FSF crowd to repentance. Evil is evil, and such were all of us, before we repented.

Blogger Chill Penguin April 04, 2021 12:55 PM  

@3 they are willing to accuse Stallman of being a perverted communist jew in order to take over the FSF
@12 Stallman has said some indefensible perverted communist jew things, but that's not the point
the point of this is that if Stallman is in control of the FSF, the FSF will defend user freedom
not only as it did when they tried to get the broader open source community to ban use of their software for nuclear weapons or apartheid, but also as it did by writing the GPLv3 demanding that device manufacturers who use GPLv3 software give the user the signing keys so they can alter the GPLv3 software on their devices
the government wants total control over what software is run on devices and Stallman's engineer side is the only thing that stands in their way
so they, including the grifter ESR, are willing to accuse him of being a communist pervert jew in order to get him out of the way. ESR has been calling him a communist and free software communism for decades, which of course he refused to say no to
this is why we need laws. Stallman's perverted communist jew musings are indefensible but what matters here is his professional career in free software. He should delete all his communist pervert nonsense from the Internet and focus on the thing that everyone likes about him, his advocacy for user freedom

Blogger Kevin Smith April 04, 2021 1:58 PM  

So 'commenters' are getting all upset about Richard Stallman's improprieties, meanwhile Bill Gates is preparing to inject the entire population of earth with Nuremberg Code-violating untested toxic substances. Just take a second to think about that.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 04, 2021 9:22 PM  

Chill Penguin wrote:he government wants total control over what software is run on devices and Stallman's engineer side is the only thing that stands in their way

so they, including the grifter ESR, are willing to accuse him of being a communist pervert jew in order to get him out of the way. ESR has been calling him a communist and free software communism for decades, which of course he refused to say no to

Yes, indeed.

When evil people are damaging evil people's evil plans, DON'T STOP THEM!

RMS may be as bad as Imwill says. If so, don't pillory him until AFTER he has done all the damage he can to our common enemies.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 05, 2021 10:17 AM  

bramley say Enoch woz right wrote:The software world is hated by the equalists because it is such raw proof of the benefits of meritocracy. Good code is good code, bad code is bad. Nobody cares if it was written by a disabled African transgender muslim jew in a shack on a garbage heap, or a Danish billionaire spilling caviar on his laptop while sat on a gold throne in a private jet, if it's good that's all that needs be said for it to qualify. And unlike many other fields it's not up for debate, there's no qualitative aspect. No wonder they are out to wreck it if they can.
Absolutely this.
Some of computer-science/software's big people have been women (eg Adm. Grace Hopper, of COBOL fame; the DoD's language being named Ada; Barbara Liskov, of Liskov substitution principle; etc), and that's what makes the push for "Women in STEM" so absolutely grating in the field: they were never excluded like the bullshit narrative pushes.

Damelon Brinn wrote:The FreeBSD project somehow managed to reverse convergence, though final results are still pending. […] But it's good to see that a project can turn it around, if the people who do the work recognize the danger.
Indeed, celebrate a victory.

Imwill wrote:Stallman is a pedophile apologist and the FSF backs him.
[…]
It’s about time we have some moral standards in those we hold in high regard.

I have no idea what "pedophile apologist" means here, with as screwed up as the Bowtie contingent is someone saying something like "You know, the State of Texas used to have the marriageable age at 15, so long as the parents consented, I don't really see a problem with that." as being pedophile apologist.

Blogger ThatWouldBeTelling April 05, 2021 2:52 PM  

@22 OneWingedShark:

bramley say Enoch woz right wrote:
The software world is hated by the equalists because it is such raw proof of the benefits of meritocracy....

Absolutely this.
Some of computer-science/software's big people have been women (eg Adm. Grace Hopper, of COBOL fame; the DoD's language being named Ada; Barbara Liskov, of Liskov substitution principle; etc), and that's what makes the push for "Women in STEM" so absolutely grating in the field: they were never excluded like the bullshit narrative pushes.


She is more obscure despite being the first woman to get a Turing Award in 2006, but don't forget the third language and compiler whiz, Frances Allen. She went from teaching people FORTRAN for IBM in 1957 to working on Stretch and Harvest in 1959 and soon enough managing compiler optimization for those projects. I highly recommend her interview in Coders at Work where she for example despairs at optimizing C/C++ compared to high level languages like FORTRAN.

Which brings out an interesting thing, why are the three leading Top Women, real world accomplished ones in the computer field all in the language and compiler field? All got math with for two of them also physics undergraduate degrees, all got graduate degrees, math or in Liskov's case she was young enough to get one in CS (took a while for it to become a recognized field).

And to add precise dates, Hopper started working on computers in 1944 or 45 (famous for finding a real bug, a moth, caught in one of the Mark I's relays, "bugs" were an established meme by then), Liskov in 1961-2.

Blogger Chill Penguin April 05, 2021 3:52 PM  

@22 you have to understand that Stallman is Jewish and has spent his entire life hanging out with communists. Despite being an excellent engineer and globally famous user freedom advocate, he never married, and may well not even have a concept of marriage. When he talk about sex, he means fornication, and people have been making fun of him for decades for all that yikes and cringe.
I do feel bad for him. If he had been able to keep his autistic mouth shut, they would have had to try to take him down for the cissexism instead.

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