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Thursday, April 15, 2021

Mailvox: a theory about golf

 A reader has an idea about the decline of golf:

The reason golf is dying is that it no longer offers the benefit that used to make it popular.

For a generation and more, a golf course was a place a man could go to get away from his wife. Oh yes, and family, and work, but mainly wife. A place beyond her reach. A peaceful, green sanctuary.

The mobile phone changed that. Golf is never coming back. Perhaps weekend spiritual retreats - where you check your phone in at the door - might.

I'm dubious. First, it's not that hard to turn your phone off, or simply not bring it with you in the first place. Second, if it's harming their business, golf courses should simply ban mobile phones on the links. 

I think golf is in decline - to the extent that it actually is in decline, I don't pay enough attention to it to actually know - is that golf is essentially a Boomer activity. Generation X and the younger generations grew up playing video games alone and with each other rather than activities with their parents, and as with so many other Boomer failures to pass things on, Boomers failed to instill a love of golf into their children.

A few of my friends back in the States golf, but none of them are anywhere nearly as serious about it as I remember my best friend's father being. So, I suspect that as the Boomers continue to age into decrepitude, there will be fewer and fewer men on the golf courses.


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134 Comments:

Blogger rumpole5 April 15, 2021 5:45 AM  

Golf never made much sense to me. I commend the enthusiasts, though. They are funding attractive large open private (no bums in the bushes) spaces that are visually available and enjoyed by nonenthusiasts.

It is somewhat similar to enjoying a cruise largely funded by gamblers, smokers, alcoholics, and fatties who can't go 2 minutes without a sugar high soda in their hand. "Never have so many owed so much to so few"!

Blogger Black Bird April 15, 2021 5:47 AM  

I built golf communities for years and the other reason it’s falling apart is costs To maintain a links today is sky high. More will continue to close because of LESS players. The country club is no longer the center of the community.
To many other options.

Blogger Parallax April 15, 2021 5:58 AM  

That and the several thousands in clubs (even rentals can be expensive), gear and course fees - both public and private. I think cost is probably one of the biggest barriers, which is why cycling is also a small club.

Meanwhile, just about all other sports, especially the team-building unit-cohesion kind, take a ball, maybe some PPE, and access to a field or open court.

Blogger Parallax April 15, 2021 5:59 AM  

That and the several thousands in clubs (even rentals can be expensive), gear and course fees - both public and private. I think cost is probably one of the biggest barriers, which is why cycling is also a small club.

Meanwhile, just about all other sports, especially the team-building unit-cohesion kind, take a ball, maybe some PPE, and access to a field or open court.

Blogger Shimshon April 15, 2021 5:59 AM  

I was surprised when my Gen X brother took up a surprisingly avid interest in golf. It's certainly something he inherited from our pre-Boomer father and pre-Silent grandfather, but he still never exhibited a single sign of interest in it in our younger days. And I believe he is instilling an interest in it in his sons.

Blogger Unknown April 15, 2021 6:03 AM  

Professionals cannot play golf as easily, emails and texts mean you can't drink weekday afternoons and early evenings. Sure as heck you will get to the 6th hole and a client will have an 'emergency.' In our area at least two of the pairs will be drunk UAW workers who were off at 3:30 and rented a cart at 3:45 and are blind drunk hitting into you at 4:30. Then your kids have practice several days a week

Sat mornings are for the kid's soccer games.

Most corporations won't allow employee/exec drinking if they sponsor the golf hole at a tourney or paid the entry fee for their people.

The pigs love to set up outside courses to get their arrest and traffic quotas because that way the doer is white, and they don't have to worry about getting accused of races or just get shot by Devontaytay

Blogger papabear April 15, 2021 6:12 AM  

In lockdown country of CA it's only Boomers, both men and women, who are playing golf at the club near my church.

Blogger IamDevo April 15, 2021 6:24 AM  

I'm 71, so Boomer (technically, but I never belonged to that cohort intellectually or spiritually. I played golf, mainly for business development (business lawyers have to cultivate clients), but never really "got into" the sport. Being the son of blue collar parents, I was always uncomfortable around the "upper crust". Meanwhile, I found myself attracted to other things, mainly involving the outdoors; hiking, camping, hunting, fishing, and since I lived in the Northeast, skiing (Alpine and Nordic) in the winter. Although I never had sons and my stepdaughters were interested in girly things, eventually three grandsons came into the picture, all of whom I inculcated with a love of the outdoors and all of whom now share most of the same things I came to enjoy. They now are far better shots better than I ever was, too, which may be a very good thing, if the future plays out the way it seems to be headed.

Blogger Unknown April 15, 2021 6:26 AM  

Who the hell gives a crap about old men playing Golf?
That is why it is in decline. Golf? are you serious ??

Blogger Shane Bradman April 15, 2021 6:27 AM  

I disagree with that comment. Golf is a break from concrete, and I don't know many golfers that have a phone in their pocket while they're playing. Granted, most golfers I know are 40+ and don't care much for phones in the first place, but I seriously doubt that golf will be going away.
Watching golf will go away, and maybe competitions will decline, but casual golf is here to stay.

Blogger KJE April 15, 2021 6:36 AM  

In the GenX corhort here; have spent time as a youth sports coach on my son’s football team, and I’m an assistant scoutmaster in his small scout troop.

Observationally, parents are overall less engaged with kids in those areas. My other interests, hunting, shooting, and archery I see the same. There are fewer adults bringing youth along with them into a sport or hobby or learning like that. Since joining the volunteer fire department, I see that group aging too, and fewer younger people willing to volunteer.

At least in my locality, the two notable exceptions to this are in fishing and bowling.

Blogger KJE April 15, 2021 6:38 AM  

In the GenX corhort here; have spent time as a youth sports coach on my son’s football team, and I’m an assistant scoutmaster in his small scout troop.

Observationally, parents are overall less engaged with kids in those areas. My other interests, hunting, shooting, and archery I see the same. There are fewer adults bringing youth along with them into a sport or hobby or learning like that. Since joining the volunteer fire department, I see that group aging too, and fewer younger people willing to volunteer.

At least in my locality, the two notable exceptions to this are in fishing and bowling.

Blogger The Lab Manager April 15, 2021 6:44 AM  

I don't think the number of golf players are there anymore. In my part of the country, a decent sized South Texas city has had two private golf courses go down and another public one sold half its acreage for development. One of the courses will be partially developed into residential property to annoyance of those who bought around the golf course decades ago.

I remember an older person I worked with telling me that in the 1980's, you would have put a tee time about two weeks in advance. It was that popular.

I've messed around with a golf club here and there, but there is no real reason for me to make it something to do. And I even found the bag and clubs for my height for free.

Blogger Harambe April 15, 2021 6:46 AM  

Why would I play golf when I can go shoot clays with my wife and friends instead?

Blogger ar10308 April 15, 2021 6:55 AM  

Gen X and Gen Y both had video games to pass their time and escape from the world. Given that Retro Video Games stores are popping up quite rapidly, it isn't unreasonable to determine that is the primary diversion activity for the younger generations as they age.

Blogger peacefulposter April 15, 2021 6:55 AM  

Golf has come back bigtime in my area as it is one of the few activities that people can still do during the "covid" lockdown. My local public golf course was also extremely busy this winter with walkers, x-country skiers, etc.

We shall see if the trend continues post-lockdown.

Blogger Harambe April 15, 2021 6:56 AM  

Personally, I admire golfers because I can appreciate the skill that goes into placing a ball exactly where you want it by smacking it with a stick. but watching golf is second only to five day cricket in terms of boredom. There's no sense of distance or any frame of reference. You just see the swing, and if the cameraman is good you see a white ball for a bit, then it lands somewhere. the shorter the grass, the better the shot. But that's it. There's no excitement there. watching it live and in person is great because you get a feel for the skill. But then I'd rather just go shoot at crockery or steel plates.

Blogger Kari Hall April 15, 2021 6:58 AM  

Now fathers spend Saturdays sitting on the side lines at the kid's soccer game socializing with the other parents instead of the golf course. It seems to me what has changed is what parents do with their time when not at work and the fact there really are no dedicated "adult" places anymore. I think you will find the same is true with almost any pastime of the past. We have a friend who just closed up their tennis and racketball club prior to Covid because of lack of interest and paying members. Also aesthetically golf is expensive, slow and quiet, very much unlike fast paced leisure sports most people do today.

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 15, 2021 7:00 AM  

"Piss on golf"

That's a saying amongst sheepdogs.

Perchance more young fellows realize that golf courses are a horrible waste of land that would better serve as a rifle range?
And the golfing boomers are a reason why we don't have enough rifle ranges.

Blogger Bohemond of Antioch April 15, 2021 7:01 AM  

I am 64 and play golf 2-3 / week. I have a few theories on decline of golf, which is having a great renewal due to the notpandemic. Years ago boys for a small fee carried a man's bag. Most boys did it for the money as they came from poor families. However, being around the course many boys learned the game and became excellent golfers. Lee Trevino and thousands like him, but not as successful comes to mind. The golf cart and modern work laws did away with the child caddie and so all this boys no longer get exposed to the game or the men who play the game who many times funded the young kid to play in tournaments, etc. The other issue is the cost. If you play a lot you want to join a club to avoid the newbies and drunk players and play a round in 4 hours or less. Clubs have built more and more beautiful courses and clubhouses but this has driven up the cost to belong. My old club in Maryland had a group of the ((them)) and the women who wanted to borrow millions to improve the club to be more like Congressional CC. This of course will drive up the cost. The club I belong to in WV cost less for the year than I paid for one month in Maryland. Their idea of aerating the fairway is to let the dandelions grow in the spring. Its nowhere near as a plush but I still get to play and have as much fun playing for $.25 a hole as I did playing for $5 as hole before. More to say but I have to take some money from local boomers in about an hour. Drive for show and putt for dough. BTW, most clubs ban phones on the course and its highly frowned upon to use your phone on the course.

Blogger Weak April 15, 2021 7:05 AM  

The analysis that it's a boomer activity is spot on. Golf wasn't just an escape from the wife, it was also an escape from the kids whom boomer dads had no interest in. So Gen X kids never played it.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 15, 2021 7:10 AM  

@shane bradman, respectfully sir, you're bonkers. Golfing is white supremacy and will probably be the main venue for wyppo show trials and mass burials in the near future

Blogger SeeNuts_8 April 15, 2021 7:10 AM  

A golf club is not just about the round. It is about the community of club members, networking and socialising all away from the ball & chain. With delayed adulthood, living in high rise cities and no car it is not attractive to the indebted cubicle slave young man.
I meet lots of blokes who want to play but do not. 4hrs of walking with mates on a green course with a beer at the end is pretty good

Blogger Zak April 15, 2021 7:18 AM  

Though I don't partake in either, this seems eerily similar to fishing (angling) in my neck of the woods in the UK. As others have commented, one barrier is access; as well as buying the gear, you also have to pay to enter private courses/water courses - gone are the days when a hopeful pre-teen could take a paperclip hook and cork float strung to a bamboo cane to the river hunting the 'big one', that'll get you an ASBO these days. In the end, sports with high entry costs like golf (and these costs can be invisible as well as monetary - not what you know but who etc.) are kneecapping themselves; they can't generate new interest, the young think it's boring because only 'old (probably white) guys do it', so it withers on the vine and is replaced - a sadly-apt metaphor for many things these days.

Blogger Critias April 15, 2021 7:20 AM  

I don't know how it is in the states but to me it's not the wife's phone calls that are causing the decline, it's that the wife is now present on the course golfing herself. I don't golf myself but I do walk a lot around and through golf clubs and there has been a noticeable rise in the amount of women there.

There used to be a huge amount of men only clubs but all that was killed off in the last decade due to 'equality'.

Blogger notjoshing April 15, 2021 7:26 AM  

My dad was born to "The Greatest Generation" and taught me everything I know about golf: "That's a game for people with too much time on their hands." He got me a Sinclair ZX80 instead and taught me to program, something I'm passing along to my kids. Golf? Meh. When I compete, I'd rather be facing off against someone body to body, sweat to sweat; not whacking a ball around in an onanistic mockery of sport.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 15, 2021 7:27 AM  

That and the several thousands [of dollars] in clubs (even rentals can be expensive), gear and course fees - both public and private. I think cost is probably one of the biggest barriers, which is why cycling is also a small club.

That could also be placed on the Boomers, considering how they're the only generation that has money to burn.

Blogger Iceeater April 15, 2021 7:32 AM  

Golf on the same course is just a competition between you and the course. Your scores will settle into an average so u can measure your performance over time.

When u want a nice time in a beautiful place , u dont count your shots.

Takes 6 hours to arrive play and go home. Younger gen cant grt of net that long

Blogger JM April 15, 2021 7:39 AM  

The answer is obvious: It's Trump's fault. Trump owns golf courses. Trump is bad. Therefore, people are losing interest in golf because Trump is giving the sport a bad rep.

Blogger Hoodlum April 15, 2021 7:42 AM  

the best thing about golf was the Robin Williams comedy bit on it.

Blogger Bobiojimbo April 15, 2021 7:43 AM  

This explains why so many of the communities built around golf courses, here in Scottsdale, have so few children (virtually 0), but so many grey heads.

Blogger Rick April 15, 2021 7:48 AM  

It may not be the only factor, but the boomer factor is likely true. They’re going away, and their tastes in things, are going away too. I see a similar trend in classic cars (especially hot rod and muscle cars) and motorcycles. Younger gens have no interest in tinkering or learning mechanic skills (which is fine). I think the value in classic cars etc will begin to decline soon. If collection continues, it will be a similar phenom to Bitcoin, only because others think they have value, but the sentimentality or personal attachment will not be there. People will have a passing interest in them.
Add, antiques and paintings. They will be collected for their apparent value. You see this in abstract and ugly art.

Blogger Desdichado April 15, 2021 7:49 AM  

I know lots of Xers and Millenniels who play golf. Which surprises me, because way back even in the 80s I thought of golf as an old man's game. Maybe it's the environment in which I work. But I admit that in spite of my surprise, I can understand wanting to go out and play golf. I don't at all, but I understand it. Especially for those times where you go with your friends and you're drinking the whole time you're playing.

But I've never for the life of me been able to figure out why anyone at all watches golf on TV.

Blogger Fishslinger_Bear April 15, 2021 7:50 AM  

I grew up on a golf course. I played golf there from the time I could swing a club until I left home for college. What I witnessed was essentially a men's social club, something I have no interest in. Local business men gathered there at set times on certain days during work hours and played until dark and then went to the clubhouse bar and drank and gambled until late into the evening. They were able to do this becaise most had there own business or worked for their family business, others were allowed to as a business tool or perk. Wives tolerated it because it was a social norm. None of that or at least less of that now exists. Fewer people own there own business or can afford time off to socialize or pretend they are networking. Wives no longer tolerate as much drinking, gambling, etc. Fishing, frisbee golf, and some other "sports" have increased in popularity and now offer gambling, tournaments, socializing at way less cost, time, and effort. There are many other contributing factors, but the main one no one mentions is golf sucks. It is hard, frustrating, takes forever to play, and is very expensive if you take it serious at all.

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont April 15, 2021 7:50 AM  

Whenever I look at a golf course, I think how much fun it would be to go up one of the hills on Kawasaki big bore 2 stroke, hit the crest doing 60, then do the same on the other 17 holes.

A golf course is a waste of good riding land.

Blogger By the crease of his pants April 15, 2021 7:54 AM  

Golf is a ridiculously terrible time sink. I think only the Boomer generation was selfish enough to sustain it. I know my friends are too busy working or spending time with their kids to play more than a couple times a year.

Blogger FrankNorman April 15, 2021 8:00 AM  

Golf is a game I could have gotten into, when younger, if I'd had more chance. Sadly, many golf courses tend to be "for our super-rich clique only, everyone else go away" or so I get the impression.

But putting the words "golf" and "boomer" together...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golf-class_submarine

Blogger Unknown April 15, 2021 8:00 AM  

The primary reason the Masters was slow this year was because Tiger was out. The other GOATs of the game are close to retirement and not able to perform at their previous levels. There's some young talent for sure, but nothing like Tiger. Watching Tiger was like watching a video game come to life. It's hard to follow Tiger up with "he got ahead early and barely managed to hold onto the lead".

Blogger diesel bear April 15, 2021 8:04 AM  

I think vox is right about about the decline in golf viewrship being colateral damage. With streaming services taking over sports are possibly the only reasons to have cable anymore. Sports became political, more people got rid of cable. Sports can also be streamed through the espn app, but why pay for espn at all at this point.

Blogger John Rockwell April 15, 2021 8:13 AM  

Golf is just boring to watch. Good for falling asleep.

Blogger Dex April 15, 2021 8:14 AM  

Golf is as popular as ever here in Canada. I live in Niagara and you cant even get memberships because of the waiting lists at alot of the courses and the majority of players are not boomers. I just do not see a decline in golf in North America from what I see, quite the opposite, it's more popular among the youth than ever.

Blogger Genji April 15, 2021 8:15 AM  

Perhaps not in the USA, but in some other countries, there is a running joke that Cycling is the New Golf.

Like Golf it involves expensive kit and the great outdoors. It also lends itself to the modern vice of virtue signaling about one's fitness -- something very big in the corporate bugmen world.

Blogger Newscaper312 April 15, 2021 8:16 AM  

I wonder if part of the decline is due to stagnation in the corporate world. In the 80s and 90s there was still an upward mobility into the management club aspect that drove interest in the business world, in addition to the external client schmoozing aspect.
If maybe not a core cause of decline, an accelerator as those were always multipliers before of the true underlying base of interest in the sport for it's own sake.
My 23yo son has done some work bonding thru tennis, which he likes anyway, and I have encouraged him to pick up the basics of golf so he can participate wo embarrassing himself if ever asked by the big boys he interacts with.
I know, First World problems, for as long as that lasts.

Blogger Chuck Blythe April 15, 2021 8:17 AM  

Maybe golf is just boring.

Blogger Newscaper312 April 15, 2021 8:20 AM  

I used to point out to the wife that going to shoot at the range was both more practical and a bit cheaper than golfing, and took a lot less time than it, or running off to the woods every weekend to a hunting camp in the season.

Blogger Lazarus April 15, 2021 8:22 AM  

Golf is a good walk spoiled

Blogger Star Tipper April 15, 2021 8:23 AM  

My father was a golfaholic and kind of used it as a business deal making venue. I got golf lessons and clubs as a kid and even having free memberships to clubs in college and later on military bases I didn't play much. I realize now that the only reason I played at all was to get close to my dad. He is long gone and the clubs gather dust in the garage.

Blogger Skillet April 15, 2021 8:25 AM  

Golf communities are dying. There's a large one close to us and I hear the average age of the residents there is in the 70's. They have assisted living, but that's still pretty high. Who would want to live in a little communist enclave where you can't plant an azalea without some ninny complaining to the HOA about permissions and have to pay thousands in dues for the harassment?

Blogger Rick April 15, 2021 8:31 AM  

A couple of other boomer interests in decline are trade shows and trade magazines (print versions). COVID made a serious dent in the former, and the monthly trade magazines that we route to all hands at the office are not getting even a glance by the younger employees. The mags are staying in their physical mailboxes (to bursting) and not forwarding them to others.
Vendors still want trade shows, but after going to them and exhibiting ourselves for two decades, I don’t really see their value enough to justify the expense.

Blogger Rev. Fredric Barrett April 15, 2021 8:33 AM  

Same with Bridge.

Blogger sykes.1 April 15, 2021 8:35 AM  

It is also a quintessential "white" activity. With a declining, aging white population, American golf courses are membership and business.

Blogger cyrus83 April 15, 2021 8:46 AM  

The younger generations don't have the money it takes to belong to country clubs, and they also don't have the discipline needed for the hours it takes to play a round with all the downtime between shots.

Virtual golf and mini-golf are more likely to stick around than 18-hole courses.

Blogger Akulkis April 15, 2021 8:48 AM  

>> That and the several thousands in clubs (even rentals can be expensive),

Practically every estate sale has at least one set of clubs, and Goodwill Salvation Army stores practically give them away. Like $10/club.

Blogger RandyB April 15, 2021 8:52 AM  

Another reason - the death of the outside salesman. The golf course was where many a high level sales deal was made, with the details worked out later. As Boomers killed off outside sales for those who came after, so dies golf.

Blogger Akulkis April 15, 2021 8:54 AM  

>> Who the hell gives a crap about old men playing Golf?
That is why it is in decline. Golf? are you serious ??

It used to be young men playing golf.
Golf and rifle shooting have a lot in common -- concentration and doing the exact same physical task, consistently, with little variation, except for special shots.
Golf fosters personal integrity, contemplation, and low volume, peaceful conversation.

Blogger JG April 15, 2021 8:55 AM  

Vox is exactly right. Golf is a Boomer dominated activity. The number of rounds played per year was going down even before #CoronaChan came along. There aren't enough golfers taking up the sport to replace the ones dying off.

Blogger David April 15, 2021 8:57 AM  

I'm right on the X/Millennial dividing line and I can't think of anyone around my age that plays golf - and I grew up in a heavy golf tourism area, and live near several courses now. It's all old people. I'd also add the suggestion that it's dying because it's largely an individual sport, and in these younger generations, the prospect of not having others helping pick up the slack when you're failing is a heavy thing to consider. Team sports are still very popular, though I've noticed a gradual decline in kids doing community recreational sports.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot April 15, 2021 8:58 AM  

This ain't hard, and it does relate closely to Boomers: golfing is expensive.

Blogger pyrrhus April 15, 2021 9:03 AM  

My millennial son has taken it up with some of his friends and enjoys it, but is not a fanatic...

Blogger MJ April 15, 2021 9:05 AM  

It's also a demographic factor- a smaller proportion of whites means fewer potential golfers.

Blogger megabar April 15, 2021 9:07 AM  

I think it's simpler: Golf is an outdoor sport, and today kids would rather stay in and play vids.

I remember as a kid being super excited to go to a baseball game, or the local amusement park. My nephews' response to these is "Do we have to go?"

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 15, 2021 9:10 AM  

I love golf, for many reasons. It's great exercise, and very, very satisfying when you execute a great shot. It's sunshine and fresh air, what's not to love?

It's great for business as well in oil and gas. We are some golfing mother fuckers in this industry. You get a customer's attention for 4 hours. A gold mine for a technical salesman.

Gen X, and I started playing at Miramar, before I picked up Sergeant. The barracks was across the street from the course, and the starter's PA announcement woke me up on a Saturday morning anyway, so I decided to start playing.

Blogger qualitycontrol April 15, 2021 9:14 AM  

@3. Parallax
No idea about golf but I agree with cycling. While it's possible to road bike on a budget, entry costs for a road bike, clothes and equipment are still around 1000$ to 2000$. Young people simply don't have as much money as boomers so they choose more affordable alternatives. Then there is the snobbishness of people that can afford all the high end carbon stuff. That probably exists in golf just as much.

Blogger William Hughes April 15, 2021 9:23 AM  

Curling in the winter, golf in the summer, physical activity with your friends and a pleasant peaceful visit in the club-house afterward. Yes, it is a sanctuary. Comes with rules such as no phones and no work talk. Golf is cheaper in Saskatchewan though...

Blogger dlstacy April 15, 2021 9:24 AM  

Golf used to be fun, and there were always third tier courses where I could go for a round of 9 for about $10, when we were in High School, this was a good way to spend a hot summer afternoon.
we would carry our own clubs, and there was no pretention about it, no one cared how bad (or good) you were. I dont think those third tier courses exist anymore, its no longer fun, I have lost all desire to spend time on it.

Blogger OMGDwayne April 15, 2021 9:25 AM  

Our local country club (opened 1958) used to be wildly popular, but the decline of golf has really starved it of money. We're in a rural area, and the only thing keeping this country club going is the restaurant/bar.
But anyway. Who wants to go outside? It's too hot, it's too cold. There's nowhere to sit or kick back. There are insects. There seems to be dirt everywhere. Water leaks out of the sky. There's nowhere to recharge. I don't know.

Blogger VD April 15, 2021 9:26 AM  

I just do not see a decline in golf in North America from what I see, quite the opposite, it's more popular among the youth than ever.

All the statistics must be wrong, then. Dex hasn't noticed it.

That reminds me of when my father was telling me that he'd noticed there was a real movement among the youth to start dressing up. This was right around the time that the whole grunge thing got rolling in earnest in the early 1990s.

Get your solipsistic head out of your solipsistic ass.

Blogger Nate April 15, 2021 9:29 AM  

Golf may well decline one day... but its not today. Golf is doing just fine... much as many of us wish it would wither and die.

The ratings of the Masters were down for a lot of reasons... not the least of which was the fact that is was won by arguably the most boring player on the tour.

I like to keep the Masters on the tv primarily because its fantastic background tv. its quiet... calm... and pretty. it isn't a distraction from whatever it is you're actually doing. One thing I did notice was the guy that ended up winning had it locked up really early but there was nothing special about how he was playing. It wasn't great shot making or anything... plus.. he played sooo slow. I mean you basically keep it on because nothing is actually happening right? that's what background TV is for. and yet this dude was playing so slow and was so boring that pretty much everyone just turned it off because it was terrible to watch.

Blogger Charles April 15, 2021 9:30 AM  

The Masters' viewership decline - this year - is obvious: on Sunday, the two principal players in contention were a Japanese man who literally cannot speak English and a player who had only turned pro last year, thus completely unknown to anybody.

Blogger Daniel April 15, 2021 9:34 AM  

Yeah, golf participation at the traditional public courses is in no trouble whatsoever. Professional golf and the preposterous Boomer coed "country clubs" are in trouble for the obvious reason of the current age. In rural areas, golf is less expensive and more active than driving to the city to be "entertained" by wokeball or gay disculture.

Blogger SciVo April 15, 2021 9:45 AM  

I think it is of a piece with how my dad was hostile -- not just indifferent -- to showing me how he did things. I never did get that.

Blogger The Course of Empire April 15, 2021 9:53 AM  

It also tends to be more of a white man activity (Asians to a great extent, too). As whites recede (and, more so, wealthy whites), the number golfing do, too.

Blogger Harambe April 15, 2021 9:59 AM  

cyrus83 wrote:The younger generations don't have the money it takes to belong to country clubs, and they also don't have the discipline needed for the hours it takes to play a round with all the downtime between shots.

Virtual golf and mini-golf are more likely to stick around than 18-hole courses.


Hey edgelord, my "golf" is sport shooting. We do all of that "waiting around between shots" too. But unlike you anti-civilizational moochers, we take turns picking up the shooter's brass and patching the targets. You know, stuff you would do if you didn't have your head up your own butt.

Blogger Rick April 15, 2021 10:06 AM  

More boomer interests in decline:
Bowling and PowerPoint presentations

Blogger Gobilly April 15, 2021 10:08 AM  

I was born in the autumn of 1960 and as a late in the cycle boomer I can tell you Vox is correct. The early arrivals of my "generation", the ones in the late 1960's during the free love movement, rioting at the national political conventions, basically existed in a drug induced haze from their mid teens through almost all of their 20's and beyond. These people are the worst parents this country has ever seen. This evil boomer generation has allowed the country's demise by not instilling in its offspring the fundamental principles under which they enjoyed great safety and security. These are the people in charge now, they are dying out and will be replaced by the people they raised to be Godless narcissists who don't pray or golf.

Blogger Angels1978 April 15, 2021 10:08 AM  

If I'm watching golf on t.v., it's probably Caddyshack. If I'm playing it, there's probably a windmill somewhere on the course.

Blogger ThirdMonkey April 15, 2021 10:13 AM  

Less than a mile from my house is a neighborhood that had a golf course. Several years ago, an middle-eastern immigrant bought the course and clubhouse. It lost money, but he was using it as a money laundering front for his illicit businesses. After his conviction, the golf course was put up for sale, and a genXer friend of mine bought it. All the boomers were excited that the golf course would open again. Instead, he had it rezoned for mult-family residential, which would decrease the value of the 3k sq ft boomer homes. The boomers fought him tooth-and nail, but he prevailed. He very quickly built a couple of 55+ senior-living complexes, which he owns outright, and leases several of his "garden homes" to former residents of the golf course neighborhood he "ruined." The best part is that he is a chemical engineer who manufactures all things plastic. His top selling item: plastic golf tees! He also owns the storage units across the street. It's called Boomer Storage. He's a University of Oklahoma graduate, but the coincidence is not at all lost on him.

Blogger Chris Ritchie April 15, 2021 10:21 AM  

Golf is a classist sport. Proficiency demands time and that is usually only afforded by an abundance of wealth or jobs that allow for extreme flex hours. I think it was always meant to be thus. Why the private country clubs then? Even if a middle class plebe could afford them, some clubs kept them out anyway. It's also for people who have the time, such as young singles.

For my part, I got into golf in my 20's while single. Was getting good, but as I approached my 30's and wanted to get married, I laid down the clubs intentionally. I knew that I would never be able to afford the 4 to 6 hours per round 2 to 3 times a week to maintain my skills. I didn't want that to be the priority in my life.

I think golf is here to stay, but most middle class and lower class will cease to play or watch. So what? The rich classes will always retain it. It will revert back to what it was before.

All that said, I really enjoyed my time on the links. I mostly played while I was a military officer. (Yep, it's a half-step toward the moneyed classes) To be able to walk the beautifully manicured gardens was a privilege I cherish.

Blogger Otto April 15, 2021 10:28 AM  

Golf is hard.

Watching your ball slice off into the woods or bounce along the ground when you've topped it is a deflating experience.

To be good requires a lot of tedious, repetitive practice. Think practicing your piano scales.

Playing golf may be social, but getting good at golf isn't.

I don't think today's generation has the patience for golf. The modern lifestyle isn't suited to golf.

You have to practice. You have to obtain an appointment. It takes hours to play. You can't take a break then come back and finish.

Blogger Mjoll April 15, 2021 10:33 AM  

Disc golf is replacing golf for the younger set. It's hugely popular and inexpensive.

Blogger SCBen April 15, 2021 10:34 AM  

The fact that the stars of today are not very entertaining and engaging with the fans AND the media who have POISONED our sports has turned off many viewers. Who wants to listen to all the social justice lies when you just want to watch a football or baseball game or golf tournament? As for decline in players? It could be that the younger generations simply don't have the integrity to play golf by the RULES or invest the time to play it well! I have played golf since I was 18 (now pushing 69) and can't recall ANYONE using the excuse of "escaping my wife" as the reason for them playing. To be out on a beautiful, green golf course enjoying fresh air and friends is - NICE!! Many people would benefit from a few hours on the course opposed to sitting in front of a computer whining! As for watching sports - it's a habit or hobby for most and the dems killed that enjoyment with their PLANDEMIC and idiotic lockdowns and cancellations! Don't knock playing golf and lay off us "boomers" - we're not all nitwit democrats!!

Blogger Storm Rhode April 15, 2021 10:40 AM  

A few of my genx and boomer friends play golf. Upper middle class. Not a one of them watches it on tv, that I know of.

Blogger Storm Rhode April 15, 2021 10:42 AM  

When I was a child my grandpa watched golf on tv from his farm in the dead of winter. One day my dad says, 'dad, how can you stand to watch golf! its so boring.' Grandpa says, 'when its all white and grey outside, I like to see the green.' You never know.

Blogger DannyDanger April 15, 2021 10:45 AM  

By the crease of his pants wrote:Golf is a ridiculously terrible time sink.

This. Golf requires a massive consumption of one's leisure time, especially if you are not already proficient at the techniques required.

It's fun, but it seems like life has a way of presenting other more desirable or more important options that move golf to the backburner.

Blogger Steve Canyon April 15, 2021 10:48 AM  

Golf might have been one of those things you did to get in good with your boss. Women don't golf, and women are more likely to be your boss. No need to pick up the game to impress a gal that isn't on the links.

I don't think it's going anywhere though. You'll see more Asians on the courses. As more of them get more income, more will hit the links. Stateside may fade away a bit as boomers and silents die off.

I got a cheap bag from Goodwill, a set of used clubs, and a bucket of used balls. I have about $120 total in the setup. That's a couple weekends a month at the bar or a night at a pro game. It's not expensive if you hunt for it and aren't interested in showing off a $700 driver to your pals. Heck, the buddies I golf with once a month don't even keep score. We shoot the breeze and consider it a success if we find more balls looking for the ones we hit in the bushes than ones we lost. It's camaraderie.

Blogger Silex April 15, 2021 10:48 AM  

20 years ago I noticed that a lot of average Joes were golfing. That was about the same time that the tattoo epidemic really got going, so it looked like the hipsters had invaded the golf courses. I figured that Tiger Woods was the reason that suddenly golf was hip.

Blogger Andy in San Diego and Elsewhere April 15, 2021 10:49 AM  

It's not just golf that's on the decline where the participants are mostly old white guys. Private piloting is on the decline as well. And, in my hobby of wargaming, yes, there are some youngsters coming up in the ranks, but it, too, is a hobby made up of old white guys. While expense for golf & flying have a huge chunk of it, I think the bigger issue is that millennials and other youngsters don't really pursue hobbies on their own. Their interests are limited by parents who are motivated to get their kids into the best colleges, so their time for hobbies is near zero. I don't count playing sports (like on an HS team or travelling team) as hobbies.

Blogger rcocean April 15, 2021 10:51 AM  

Sorry Vox, I've been hearing "Golf is dying" "Young people aren't playing it" all my life and I've over 55. Tiger made Golf more popular and now he's gone, so they'll be a Golf downturn and then another attractive super-star will come along and Golf will become more popular. The sport has ALWAYS been a minority taste and a sport of the well to do and older folks.

Personally, I'd love if 10-20% of the people playing now would stop. It would make it easier to get a tee time and reduce green fees.

Blogger Some Guy April 15, 2021 10:57 AM  

I used to work at a Golf company that produced mobile GPS range finders. The decline began in 2013 and we watched it through our contacts at Edwin Watts. Sales have continued a downward spiral since then. The viewership of the Masters is just the slow bleeding finally reaching the surface. Golf is the sport of the elite and it's expensive. As the Boomers decline, Golf does too.

Blogger Zeroh Tollrants April 15, 2021 11:03 AM  

Golf used to be a sport offered in high school which led to kids playing golf. My rinky dink high school in Bumfuck, Alabama had a golf club in the 80s.
That died out.
Also, Bowling Alone was a more important book than white people realized & refused to devote any introspective.

Blogger wahsatchmo April 15, 2021 11:26 AM  

I concur with Nate. Golf television viewership is down, but the sport is doing well. In the Western US the sport has experience a revival in play, specifically due to COVID lockdowns. I have to book 3 weeks in advance now for prime tee times, whereas 5 years ago you could walk on to a course without issue even on a prime weekend.

I have a contact who values golf courses for purposes of sale and financing. He is currently adjusting rounds played downward because courses are booking unusually high numbers of rounds.

What this means though, is that the golf industry doesn't expect this trend in increased play to last after COVID. Five to ten years ago, golf had declined badly, the youth weren't taking up the sport and the Boomers were dying. That changed when COVID hit. More people are playing since it's the only thing they were allowed to do and there are more youth trying it.

But golfers aren't watching it on TV, and the PGA is shooting itself in the foot by trying to restrict distance. Distance is only an issue for the pros, amateurs aren't hitting it any farther. So if the sport doesn't decline after COVID restrictions are lifted, it's going to decline due to the idiocy of its parent organization.

Blogger Warunicorn April 15, 2021 11:31 AM  

My boomer Dad and Mom tried to get my Gen-X brother and I to play. I liked it but I sucked at it. My brother was great but hated the game. (There's a story behind that, related to my Dad, but that's another story.)

I was actually way more interested in the scenery. I find the environment relaxing. I would've rather just walked around and watched others play.

My Dad was a fanatic and could play pretty well before he got really sick. Before he died, he got to be the guest of honor at one of those "Birdies for the Brave" events. (He was a Korean conflict/Cold War veteran. Was stationed at the DMZ back in the day.) Got to meet Phil Mickelson. Got a golf bag too with his signature and some other PGA Tour players' signatures. We ended up giving it to a good friend of his and ours (another golf fan) who we thought deserved more than anything since he was there a lot for him and us.

I used to really like watching the PGA Tour back in the day when players like Tom Watson, Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus were active, even as a kid. Class is something that's sorely lacking these days.

Blogger FacelessBro April 15, 2021 11:52 AM  

"Boomers failed to instill a love of golf into their children."

You nailed it with this statement. Same goes with fishing, at least in my experience.

Blogger RonG April 15, 2021 11:56 AM  

All golf needs is another Rodney Dangerfield movie.

Blogger jdwalker April 15, 2021 12:13 PM  

I would have blamed feminism. First, it was that golf was the old boys club and exclusionary of women from business development opportunities, etc. So then it was about inclusion and women were invited, etc. But the women didn't particularly care to be invited. What they really wanted was for the perceived professional benefits reaped on the golf course to be available at the spa. So then there were events for either going golfing or to the spa. When all the boys went golfing and the women went to the spa (along with a few gay men), then golfing stopped being an option at all.

Blogger Pathfinderlight April 15, 2021 12:17 PM  

Boring, bland, visually synthetic, looks good only from afar, requiring no physical exertion. Oh, and most golfers wonder why everyone else doesn't hold their sport as the greatest.

Does sound like golf is the boomer of sports.

Blogger Jack Amok April 15, 2021 12:30 PM  

Prior to WWII, golf was an upper-class sport. Expensive to maintain those large courses, and it was the Country Club idea. After WWII, it became a Middle Class sport as the Middle Class got wealthy and large enough to support golf courses.

It will go back to being an Upper Class sport when the Middle Class is gone, but I'm not sure the new Upper Class has the aptitude for it.

Blogger Reziac April 15, 2021 12:34 PM  

Golf used to be where businessmen went to hash out deals in private, without having to pass everything through the corporate bureaucracy. Now they do it from their homes over Zoom.

Blogger Rick April 15, 2021 12:45 PM  

Full-strength Boomer:

“it’s NICE!!!!”

Sounds like fun. You sound happy. Very persuasive.
I can’t imagine being mad at people for not liking my hobby.

Blogger John W. Smoke April 15, 2021 12:50 PM  

There is a reason Florida has the most golf courses in the US:

https://golf.com/news/the-united-states-of-golf-all-50-states-ranked-by-their-golfiness/

Blogger OneWingedShark April 15, 2021 12:58 PM  

VD wrote:as with so many other Boomer failures to pass things on, Boomers failed to instill a love of golf into their children.
Their failure to pass things on is all-pervasive in the Boomer: they HATE teaching, at all levels. They hate it with all of their being, as garlic to a vampire or The Cross to the demonic, so 'training', 'teaching' and 'instruction' are to Boomers. — These are the people who thought that public schools should teach all the 'little skills' in home-ec, shop, etc… then became teachers and eliminated these classes, saying that parents should be the ones teaching it. These are the people who killed off all the "train from within" and employee-education programs in favor outsourcing and "headhunting from other companies" to the point that there are entire sectors that are absolutely dying for lack of new people. (e.g. Financial programmers and COBOL, tool-and-die shops, etc.)

I also notice that Boomers HATE passion/excitement in younger people; their "never talk religion or politics" rule is an example of this. Any time you're showing any passion, it's responded to with "calm down" and "don't get angry" — it's like they literally cannot conceive of someone being excited without anger.

Black Bird wrote:The country club is no longer the center of the community.
Same with a LOT of clubs and sub-cultures; see above: the Boomers hate anything related to training, and this includes recruiting & integrating newbies into their sub-culture.

Doktor Jeep wrote:Perchance more young fellows realize that golf courses are a horrible waste of land that would better serve as a rifle range? And the golfing boomers are a reason why we don't have enough rifle ranges.
I would infinitely rather have a shooting-range than a golf-course.

Rick wrote:Younger gens have no interest in tinkering or learning mechanic skills (which is fine).
You are off your rocker.
There's plenty of interest, the main barrier now is lack of tooling and lack of training; both of these are impacted/driven by Boomers. I've described the latter above, but for the former: consider how expensive tools are, consider also how housing-prices have increased, consider how the tool-quality has taken a nosedive, and consider how few Boomers would buy anything more than the "roadside sockets and wrenches" tool-kit for their children (much less something like a lathe, bandsaw, tablesaw, acetylene-torch, etc) and then imagine actually giving them actual instruction and training on the tools.

Hell, if I had the money, I'd be starting up my own fabrication plant.

Blogger LadyGerbil April 15, 2021 1:02 PM  

Golf has become comp'd in recent years, the feminists have taken control, globally and locally. My club used to have a Club Captain, a male, always.
Now it has a men's captain, a ladies captain, a junior captain.
The rules were changed a couple of years ago too, and the handicap system, no one knows right from wrong any more, which was the plan. The pros are cheaters.

As a gen Xer, I have had 27 great years out of golf, broke par a couple of times, won trophies, made some great friends, played on some beautiful courses around the world, and had my share of frustrating times too. Club golf is a boomer haven, and boomer women now more and more, which is awful, they are abysmal golfers and miserable witches.

I stopped playing last year, the time for games is over now, serious times are here, the wheat and the chaff are shortly to be sorted. Much to do, no more golf, but I thank God for the years I had.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 15, 2021 1:02 PM  

Chris, I play with my three boys. They are fanatical players, and really good. My 12 year old can drive a ball 170 yards straight as an arrow.

It defies belief watching him.

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 15, 2021 1:08 PM  

If I watched TV, I'd watch golf.
But I can't sit still that long.

A round of golf is 7 miles of walking even with a cart, terrific core workout, and about a 1000 calorie burn for me (71" 230 pounds).

Blogger Gator McCluskey April 15, 2021 1:15 PM  

the problem with golf is that it takes too much time to get good. And even then, you need to keep practicing to maintain your skills, especially your short game. I used to play, but going to the range or pitch and putt to practice just took up too much time. These days I'd much rather spend my time shooting sporting clays. It's almost like golf with shotguns, how cool is that? And you don't need to spend hours and hours practicing just to get a decent score.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 15, 2021 1:16 PM  

Rick wrote:More boomer interests in decline:
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Army PTSD Intensifies.

Zeroh Tollrants wrote:Also, Bowling Alone was a more important book than white people realized & refused to devote any introspective.
Bowling Alone, IIRC, was more a documentary about the Boomer's failure to pass things down in-action/as-realized — though I'll have to [re]read it.

Warunicorn wrote:My boomer Dad and Mom tried to get my Gen-X brother and I to play. I liked it but I sucked at it. My brother was great but hated the game. (There's a story behind that, related to my Dad, but that's another story.)
Hm, I can relate.
I'm decent with mechanical things, but time spent helping dad fix the car put a bad taste in my mouth for the more mechanical things for 20–25 years and only recently have I gotten into it a bit more.

FacelessBro wrote:"Boomers failed to instill a love of golf into their children."
You nailed it with this statement. Same goes with fishing, at least in my experience.

And hunting, and shooting, and civics [see militia], and wood-/metal-working, and so on.
Boomers thought that the schools should be the only thing teaching children, except when they were teachers (and then it was the parent's responsibility).

Blogger Colonel Blimp April 15, 2021 1:47 PM  

I agree, but that is exactly what an intense hobby should be. Perfecting the craft and practicing. I don't play because I don't care enough to do that and I'd rather engage in activities I can step into and remember old skills and be fine 10 minutes later. Like playing darts with old friends over beer... after 5 minutes you're 90 percent back to your best and it's fun. Golf seems like a show off of who has the most obsession or luxury time to keep at it.

Blogger Colonel Blimp April 15, 2021 1:51 PM  

Satanic asz worshippers with gender issues who hate manual anything seem like the perfect upper class for never playing golf again. Who sweats? Eww we aren't inside at an orgy...

Blogger Colonel Blimp April 15, 2021 1:53 PM  

Bingo. Your limited circle often doesn't begin to represent the whole. It's why bubble liberals from whiteopias always fall for any diversity nonsense.

Blogger SemiSpook37 April 15, 2021 1:56 PM  

I think a big part of depends on who you talk to. My wife's aunts, who are at the front end of the Boomer wave with her father, were very into golf given the fact they're both lifelong spinsters. One of them over the past couple of years has gone into a neurologic decline affecting her motor skills, so she no longer can play. So it was decided that my oldest get a set of clubs from the both of them since they weren't going to be used.

My father, from in the middle of the Boomer wave, played a lot on a regular basis. Not to the point that he had a handicap, but he did it because he enjoyed it. He, too, has developed a condition affecting his neurologic system, so I have a set of clubs waiting for me. I plan to pick them up at some point and help teach my daughter how to play, since she's shown interest.

Granted, it'll be tough since she's already involved in sports for her age, but range time with dad might be a welcome change from running up and down a field hockey pitch. Plus, changing things up isn't always a bad thing.

Blogger Linus April 15, 2021 1:59 PM  

I played golf in law school, and have plenty of money to play it now, but don't, because it simply cannot be done casually with any degree of reward. This is because (1) it's not fun until you are somewhat competent, which takes a lot of practice, and (2) it takes too damn long. 18 holes takes 4-5 hours, minimum. Whereas I can go shoot on my lunch break, and have fun doing it.

Blogger Retrenched April 15, 2021 2:22 PM  

Agree that golf's decline is partly a generational thing. I used to play a few times a year with my boomer uncle and his friends, but few of my friends showed any interest in the game at all. I haven't set foot on a course since my uncle passed away 8 years ago.

Racial and demographic changes in America are a factor too - generally, the more popular something is with whites, the more likely it's going to be in decline. (See also: country music.)


Blogger ar10308 April 15, 2021 2:30 PM  

@OneWingedShark Boomers are the WORST teachers at practical life skills. My father (born 1960, later Boomer) taught me to drive, and his philosophy on it was to cause as much stress as possible while he was teaching me so I'd be less stressed while driving myself. Of course, this cause me to hate listening to him when I was in control of the car, so one fateful rainy evening he got me sufficiently angry and exasperated that I turned when he told me not to and caused us to get T-boned by an oncoming car I didn't see. It totalled the 1992 Thunderbird. Oh well.

Then when I finally bought my own car, a 1988 Saab 900 w/ a Manual Transmission, his advice to me was to "listen to the car" when I was trying to learn to drive stick, and when asked "What am I listening for?" the answer was "You have to listen to the car?". Of course, he didn't tell me that when the car stalled out, it meant I hadn't given it enough gas. I ended up having to go online and find information on it from How Stuff Works in order to figure out how to drive my car.
Years later when my sister and her friend wanted to learn stick on the car, I was able to teach them to proficiently get the car moving and shifting gears in under 15-minutes each. Basic info explained well was all that was needed. "If you stall the car, it means you didn't give it enough gas and let the clutch out too quickly".

Blogger RC April 15, 2021 2:53 PM  

"I used to really like watching the PGA Tour back in the day when players like Tom Watson, Arnold Palmer and Jack Nicklaus were active, even as a kid. Class is something that's sorely lacking these days."

I don't live too far from Watson. He plays at a local course with kids for caddies and a friend's son was Watson's caddy several times. Watson got to know the kid and was giving him an after-round lesson when my friend showed up to pick his kid up. When they had finished the lesson, his son jumped into the passenger seat and my friend asked if he knew who that was teaching him. "Sure do. His name is Tom." The kid had no clue he was getting a lesson from a legend. Priceless and pure class.

Blogger 5stonegames April 15, 2021 4:00 PM  

Golf is also a bit too expensive for many Gen X and Y and also overly White for many Gen Y so its bound to decline.

Also its hell on the back, why not do MMA or Lift. Its less damaging and more useful.

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 15, 2021 4:05 PM  

The fact that the stars of today are not very entertaining and engaging with the fans

That's largely on the golf commentators and sports media. Nate's right that the Japanese guy who won this year is dead boring. But the white stars of the sport aren't. The problem is that the golf media went TigerTigerTiger for years, and then when Tiger was out of the sport, it was all about "Where's Tiger? How's Tiger's comeback going? Wasn't it great when we had Tiger?" They made little attempt to market the personalities of the other stars, even though plenty of them have fist-pumping personalities on the course and hot wives and some off-the-course antics. But they're all white, so the woke sports media would be embarrassed about promoting them.

Blogger weka April 15, 2021 4:17 PM  

The new golf is mountain and road cycling. Meets the "new and shiny gear" Jones and means you are out of the house. It's more popular bwithblate boomers early Gen X. The younger then compete in multisport it long cycling events.

It's also replaced jogging.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 15, 2021 5:17 PM  

ar10308 wrote:@OneWingedShark Boomers are the WORST teachers at practical life skills. My father (born 1960, later Boomer) taught me to drive, and his philosophy on it was to cause as much stress as possible while he was teaching me so I'd be less stressed while driving myself.
You too?
Yep, I remember that; where learning driving dad's goal was apparently to either induce or suffer a heart-attack.

Then when I finally bought my own car, a 1988 Saab 900 w/ a Manual Transmission, his advice to me was to "listen to the car" when I was trying to learn to drive stick, and when asked "What am I listening for?" the answer was "You have to listen to the car?". Of course, he didn't tell me that when the car stalled out, it meant I hadn't given it enough gas.
Yep.
I hate that, the sort of "I know it, so you should too!"-attitude.
That really gets in the way when they even try to explain something. How much easier would it have been to say something like "when the engine starts to stall and die like that, it means you're not giving it enough fuel; just give it a little more gas."

Blogger stevo April 15, 2021 5:46 PM  

I'm not a golfer, but I used to play once a year at company events, and I gotta say, if I could get one good drive in a game it was enough. It feels great.

Blogger stevo April 15, 2021 5:58 PM  

Do they still have ladie's tees? Seems to me that would be very triggering.

Blogger Colonel Blimp April 15, 2021 8:29 PM  

It does seem like all this is burned in your head pretty good...

Blogger Bezzle April 15, 2021 8:46 PM  

@13. The Lab Manager April 15, 2021 6:44 AM
I remember an older person I worked with telling me that in the 1980's, you would have put a tee time about two weeks in advance. It was that popular.

Breaking down 1980s popularity:

* "Caddyshack"

* old-boys-network ritual

* before widespread cable-TV and internet

* televised matches became common, and snowbound audiences in the north were offered a respite from their seasonal affective disorder

* teenage caddies (since replaced by electric carts) with paid-in-cash jobs before mandatory SSNs took up the sport themselves

* before said carts, it was a passive "gentleman's game" that nevertheless required a degree of fitness to indulge, so no ugly people ruining the view

* high-schools still taught the sport

Blogger cyrus83 April 15, 2021 8:48 PM  

@73 I came a few decades after the moocher generation. I stand by millennials lacking discipline, it's a fault of my own as well.

Blogger CynicalMan April 15, 2021 9:11 PM  

It can sometimes take five hours to play a round of golf. That is a time investment that many cannot make. What more there is not enough instant gratification to satisfy the needs of the younger generations. It also requires thousands of hours of practice and play to be any good at the game and you have to keep it up to stay competetive. Who has the time?

Blogger Boo Boo the Fool, Esquire April 15, 2021 9:52 PM  

Golf is as bad as football season in terms of getting fathers to spend time away from wife and kids. Golf and cigarettes served one major goal in the corporate world: hearing the dirt and exchanging favors. The real boardroom was on the green. I don't know if it's that way anymore, an underappreciated culture may have been lost. Everyone's a soy demon now.

Blogger RedJack April 15, 2021 11:02 PM  

Similar to hunting. The same guys who complain about the lack if hunters complain there are too many people in "their" area.

I used to golf a few times a year as work required it. My current job does not. I find a nice quiet bar much more easier to work deals.

Classmate went to school for gold course management. He got of it as the new thing is turning courses into houses

Blogger teslawasframed April 16, 2021 12:16 AM  

I've always said that a golf course is a waste of a good rifle range.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 16, 2021 1:02 AM  

@101

"consider how expensive tools"

Never been in a Harbor Freight, huh?

Blogger SciVo April 16, 2021 2:38 AM  

The Child:
I stopped playing last year, the time for games is over now, serious times are here, the wheat and the chaff are shortly to be sorted. Much to do, no more golf, but I thank God for the years I had.

God bless you, both for appreciating what you were given, and also for knowing what time it is.

Blogger SciVo April 16, 2021 2:57 AM  

@OneWingedShark:
Yep, I remember that; where learning driving dad's goal was apparently to either induce or suffer a heart-attack.

I remember my dad beginning to teach me, very authoritatively, in his stick shift. Then I remember him sullenly agreeing that I would be taught how to drive by my mom. I have no interest in unblocking the memory of the in-between.

Blogger Harambe April 16, 2021 5:05 AM  

OneWingedShark wrote:ar10308 wrote:@OneWingedShark Boomers are the WORST teachers at practical life skills. My father (born 1960, later Boomer) taught me to drive, and his philosophy on it was to cause as much stress as possible while he was teaching me so I'd be less stressed while driving myself.

You too?

Yep, I remember that; where learning driving dad's goal was apparently to either induce or suffer a heart-attack.

Then when I finally bought my own car, a 1988 Saab 900 w/ a Manual Transmission, his advice to me was to "listen to the car" when I was trying to learn to drive stick, and when asked "What am I listening for?" the answer was "You have to listen to the car?". Of course, he didn't tell me that when the car stalled out, it meant I hadn't given it enough gas.

Yep.

I hate that, the sort of "I know it, so you should too!"-attitude.

That really gets in the way when they even try to explain something. How much easier would it have been to say something like "when the engine starts to stall and die like that, it means you're not giving it enough fuel; just give it a little more gas."


Same here. As a young kid I would get anxious as the weekend approached because there was a pretty good chance my dad would want me to help him do something. And by "help him do something" I mean hold a flashlight wrong or take too long to recognize a wrench by sight alone. When it came to learning to drive, all I learned from my dad was a couple of creative ways to use The Lord's name as part of your cussing repertoire. His dad treated him like that too but instead of deciding it was BS, he developed Stockholm syndrome during his childhood. I swore I'd rather die stupid than ask him to teach me anything. My attitude did shift when I got internet access and saw you could learn just about anything on there. Which is how a dude going by the name "MerchGod" taught me how to tune elecronic fuel injection systems and how turbos and engines work.

I swear the only lesson boomer dads wanted to teach their kids was to never ask them anything.

Blogger Unknown April 16, 2021 7:32 AM  

Going to Orlando this week to play with my 2 sons.Golf is for gentlemen....the art of being a gentleman is what's truly in decline.

Blogger Christina April 16, 2021 5:16 PM  

I don't know. I live in Vegas right now and brother golfs 2-3 times a week with his buddies. They're in a league. Gen-Xers. I still think golf in places like Arizona and Nevada is a pretty popular activity.

Blogger David April 16, 2021 10:26 PM  

Your Boomr theory makes alot of sense, but also in addition to this is the decline of middle class, especially upper middle class of professionals and small businesses owners. Like your previous post about the vast decline in property ownership and wealth among Gen X, Millennials, etc vs Boomers.

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