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Saturday, April 03, 2021

The media discovers 2033

Laura Ingraham talked to a historian about the coming breakup of the USA on Fox:
Ingraham: Historian Craig Shirley writes our country is in a vicious toxic relationship with itself. Like any toxic relationship, the only inevitable eventuality is that it will mercifully end with breakup. I don’t see any sort of viable path forward at the rate we’re going. Author and historian Craig Shirley joins me now. Is there really no path in your mind to reconciliation?

Shirley: No, I don’t think so, Laura. Look, we had national glue in the past to hold us together as a nation. We had Manifest Destiny, the Great Depression, we had wars and other activities. Covid should have been the national glue holding us together but it wasn’t. In fact, it drove us further apart. You saw states arguing with states, and states arguing with the national government about how to proceed, how to distribute vaccines. No, I don’t see any choice going forward. It may be a natural thing. Like a Brexit only in the United States, where states, blue states and red states, separate and have some type of friendly trading relationship or friendly transportation relationship, but they are all self-governed. Which is really what the founders intended in the first place.

Demographics is destiny. The dirt is not magic. The civnats have inverted reality and their basic concept entirely backwards: Mexicans are not people who happen to live inside lines on a map called Mexico, Mexico is where Mexicans live. The breakup of the USA is already inevitable and it has been since 1965. But now the concept is being normalized. 

Therefore, it's time to make sure you're on the right side of the borders-to-be.

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Blogger GammaCatch April 03, 2021 8:36 AM  

With elections and laws being endless and endlessly rigged, all Red can be Blue whenever they like, and many Reds are actually Blue in function. No one on The Right can be certain they are within the right borders, and it will be less and less so as we reach 2030. I have moved many times in the last 20 years and every place I have gone to has moved Left eventually.

Blogger Charlie April 03, 2021 8:43 AM  

I wonder how they will work out defense re outside forces.

Blogger Shane Bradman April 03, 2021 8:51 AM  

Mexico has a historical claim to California. Territorial disputes are common, and often end without violence. The Russian annexation of Crimea was good because the people that live in Crimea are all Russian. Annexation of a territory that is half and half like California doesn't necessarily end peacefully, although does America have the balls to do anything about it? Probably not.

Blogger Rick April 03, 2021 9:04 AM  

“friendly trading relationship”

Wut?
To use one example, what does Hollywood have that the do-er states can’t live without. Or NYC.
Maybe the United Red States of America can have our own paper money.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli April 03, 2021 9:04 AM  

Drugs and the threat of violence from the State are the only two things that hold the U.S. together.

Take the legalized drugs away (Big Pharma) and you will have a mass mental breakdown in the adult population of the United States. The AWFLs will be the first to lose their shit. The rest will be a domino effect.

Blogger Steve Johnson April 03, 2021 9:06 AM  

Just as there were Border States in the first Civil War, so are there some whose eventual allegiance isn't obvious. I live in Virginia, where 2018 and 2020 elections were crudely hacked to let the Democrats win. The government is nearly solid D, but the people ...

Blogger islanti April 03, 2021 9:07 AM  

"how to distribute vaccines"

Yah thats the major issue here. The left and right just can't agree on how to distribute vaccines!

Blogger Canadian Warlord April 03, 2021 9:07 AM  

People are going to raise the standard objections:
1) It's preferable to 'fight it out' instead of delaying genocide they are going to start
2) Who gets the nukes?
3) The bad people have already invaded the good places

None of those are going to matter when the split begins. North America has too much empty space, it is NOT EUROPE and civil wars from Europe (Spain, Greece, even England) are not in any way comparable. Europe turns over government structures because of continental wars. The USA and even Canada have ancient rickety structures that have been gamed and messed with for centuries. I'm sorry folks, this will be something new and historical precedent goes out the window. The US civil war is so far in the past of warfare methods and practices and weapons and the geography of opponents that it is also inadmissable as evidence going forward.

As for the "fight it out now" crowd, the decision to have a proper set-to at the "bike racks at 3:15 PM" or whatever high school bullshit they are referring to will be taken from us. I suspect that the fractured nature of the US government itself (deep state machinations, bureaucratic inability to build walls to defend the government, state department giving the army dumb tasks like Syria) will show the first cracks - if it hasn't already. We are not going to get the options that people think we have to "fight it out now" or whatever. When weapons of this magnitude are controlled by shadowy forces, when foreign deployments and detente with other major powers are at stake, when Sally Soccer Mom x 100M may end up being the greatest threat to humanity on the planet (see coronavirus), then we mere combatants will not be in a place to choose the nature, time, or place of the coming conflict. It will be wild.

For those who want to 'start it early,' go to the nearest Safeway and kick a bitchy looking Karen to see if you can get it rolling. No? Didn't work?

As for the rest of us in reality, move out of the cities, grow food, and be in a defensible position because many suburbs are going to starve. This civil war will take place on a resource level, with things like oil supplies. We are if nothing else the long-haul tucking civilization and when the trucks stop running, look the fuck out.

Blogger Trump2020 April 03, 2021 9:07 AM  

How likely is it that certain counties of a blue state join a red state and do we expect the red states to form their own union or act on their own?

Blogger James Dixon April 03, 2021 9:17 AM  

> But now the concept is being normalized.

As I keep saying: Rescind the Constitution and dissolve the federal government. We can work out the details.

The Constitution has failed and the federal government has become worse than the anti-federalist's nightmares. It's well past time to start over.

Blogger Warunicorn April 03, 2021 9:38 AM  

Sooner or later, they are going to cause trouble; they always do. Look at right now as an example. Breaking up is like putting a band-aid on a gushing wound.

Still, the idea of separating is something I'd be for just to watch the parasites get raked over the coals in trade deals. Dumbasses think steaks come from a supermarket as it is.

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 03, 2021 9:46 AM  


It's a gambit. For Detroit there was a window in which you could still sell a house and escape versus having to just abandon it. So I have to keep a keen eye out for what's going on and where it's headed.

One thing we might expect is a strong link between climate, skin color, and rK selection. Around my area when the temp goes to around 60 or below you only see white people outside. I used to run in a park where on a typical night there's at least 8 basketballs bouncing, 4 boomboxes spewing cRap, and three languages spoken. But on a cool night, it's just two or three white guys and some dogs.

So that's a clue as to who is going where.
I can imagine Florida ending up like Brazil which was where it was going before the US took it. Atlanta becoming a black city state - though if it's run by big black queens or men raised by single mothers it's going to be a nightmare hell hole....
It's going to be a nightmare hell hole.
Texas will go back to its roots. That can be good or bad. New York City become Luxembourg West.

Maybe if we are lucky there will be enough amicable sense of things that will let people trade properties. My experience tells me that honesty in such an endeavor will be a one way street. Whites will have to slink away or just cut and run probably. An Angry Brown Government, like half the DNC for example, would be likely to come up with schemes to control removal of wealth and assets.

Assumptions aside, on a more serious note a breakup will be the least worst solution. It would require people not to be spiteful vengeful morons. That's already not the case. There's also an element that will want armed conflict and make fortunes selling ammo to both sides. They did it to Europe twice last century.

And then, regarding the minions and parasites, know they can't survive without goody two shoes cucky-McCuckface white people to show up for work, pay the taxes, and keep the gibs flowing. They are not going to let their tax slaves go without a fight.

I think it was Matt Bracken who says the US breakup will be "Bosnia times Rwanda" or something like that.

Blogger Rex Little April 03, 2021 9:47 AM  

Problem is, where will those borders be? State lines? Every red state has blue cities, and every blue state has red areas. If reds and blues can't get along at the national level, why should they be expected to at the state level?

Blogger Tom d April 03, 2021 9:53 AM  

The rural housing market is in uncharted territory. Every property I've inquired about in small town rural areas has had multiple offers and is under contract in a day or two. Even pre-lock down, VD was pointing out the Realtor report for 2020 showing Idaho was one of the most in demand regions. The current rural demand is attributed to lack of supply (both from lack new construction and Covid deterring elderly from listing), low interest rates - I haven't seen the '2033' metric mentioned in media reports other than the code of 'seeking lower costs of living.'

The general recommendation has been to 'get away from cities' - I'm curious if anyone could quantify this (e.g. miles from or hours drive from a major urban center, ect). Alternatively, are you officially in the a 'red' area if it is not on google maps?

Blogger Silly but True April 03, 2021 10:11 AM  

Yugoslavia model: Blue states will graciously offer to control the federal army, with Eric Swalwell in charge of the nuclear arsenal. Of course, they promise that such weapons would never be used against US States, and especially in case of a national civil war or breakup.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 03, 2021 10:26 AM  

The lines will be at geographic boundaries, natural and not so natural

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot April 03, 2021 10:40 AM  

"blue states and red states, separate and have some type of friendly trading relationship or friendly transportation relationship"

That's rather optimistic. The most basic issue, which doesn't seem to get much play nationally, is water. Most of America's coastal strips are completely dependent on inland water projects that move water from the "rural" red areas to them. That's a lot of red state leverage.

Blogger Iceeater April 03, 2021 10:41 AM  

STRATFOR- report on future says by 2075 - Northen Mexico, Texas , Okla home will be so high tech industrial it will dominate the world. Energy, labor, independent = sorry no tax trasfer to mega cesspool cities.
I am moving back from fla - have rest of family ymthere now.

Blogger pyrrhus April 03, 2021 10:43 AM  

Martin Armstrong's AI has been predicting this for close to a decade...but only VD has provided the coherent explanation...I'm surprised that an historian has been bold enough to say this on Fox...

Blogger The Kurganovich April 03, 2021 10:45 AM  

The price of secession is too high for the coasts. They will fight to the death to preserve the union, redraw its borders and rewrite its constitution. Similar situation to the Russian revolution, where the reds are again led by the Jews but Chinese play the role of the Germans.

Blogger pyrrhus April 03, 2021 10:45 AM  

Key to the breakup...City dwellers must be given NO say in anything in the ensuing red state governments...that's not negotiable

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 10:47 AM  

GammaCatch wrote:. No one on The Right can be certain they are within the right borders, and it will be less and less so as we reach 2030. I have moved many times in the last 20 years and every place I have gone to has moved Left eventually.
We are going to have to stop running, and start standing.

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot April 03, 2021 10:50 AM  

I think it was Matt Bracken who says the US breakup will be "Bosnia times Rwanda" or something like that.

The cities are certain to end up as charnel houses. Never in history has a megalopolis of over 50 million people like BosNYWash been involved in a vicious civil war.

Blogger Jeff April 03, 2021 10:53 AM  

Rex Little wrote:Problem is, where will those borders be? State lines? Every red state has blue cities, and every blue state has red areas. If reds and blues can't get along at the national level, why should they be expected to at the state level?

Exactly. And those two are bound together economically. You can't have pure rural countries without urban hubs or isolated urban countries without rural support. The majority of economic activity is urban, but relies on rural agriculture and resource extraction. Try to split that off into separate hostile countries and both will collapse.

Blogger Silly but True April 03, 2021 10:54 AM  

@Rex,
You will be forced to “go home” — or pay increasingly onerous jizya to your liberal overlords if you try to stick it out.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 10:54 AM  

Doktor Jeep wrote:New York City become Luxembourg West.
Or Beirut West.
Rex Little wrote:Problem is, where will those borders be? State lines? Every red state has blue cities, and every blue state has red areas.
Read Chittum's Civil War II. He talks a little about the fractal nature of the conflict, although he doesn't use that word.

Blogger mushroom April 03, 2021 10:56 AM  

There are a smattering of anti-reality people even out here in hillbillyville. I think they will stay mostly quiescent. Once the traditional political parties are shattered, they'll be all right. We will have lots of other problems to solve. Law and order will be, perhaps, less legal and more just.

Blogger pyrrhus April 03, 2021 11:07 AM  

Trump calls for MLB boycott...https://www.outkick.com/trump-calls-for-mlb-boycott-warns-woke-corporations/?utm_source=aimtell&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=campaign-2493

Blogger VFM #7634 April 03, 2021 11:07 AM  

Problem is, where will those borders be? State lines? Every red state has blue cities, and every blue state has red areas. If reds and blues can't get along at the national level, why should they be expected to at the state level?

We'll basically end up looking like medieval Italy, which consisted of city-states and larger rural regions. So I expect the "second civil war" to actually be civil wars within the more unstable states ''after'' Fedgov goes tits up and the country shatters into its 50 states. The mad Democrat spending and letting the money printer go brr will be the inevitable trigger for the implosion of the federal government. Americans will have to switch to cryptocurrency; the dollar WILL become worthless as an inevitable consequence of Communist spending.

In Yugoslavia, there were only significant wars in Bosnia-Herzegovina and Croatia. Slovenia, Serbia (barring Kosovo), and Macedonia didn't have any.

Similarly, in the Soviet Union, Moldova, Georgia, Tajikistan, and more recently Ukraine had civil wars, Russia of course had its wars in one region (Chechnya), and then there was the wars between Armenia and Azerbaijan -- in fact, the first Armenia-Azerbaijan war actually started well before the Soviet breakup, indicating that the Soviet government had been weakening for some time. But the other republics, again, were more or less stable. The recent Ukrainian civil war also indicates that it can take some time for state institutions to decay and discontent to mount before a civil war breaks out.

In the United States, I'd expect the most vicious civil wars and separatism to take place in states where Democrats grabble onto power and go full globohomo-Communist but have deep red rural regions. Virginia is commonly cited as an example, but I also expect this in eastern Washington and Oregon, downstate Illinois, and upstate New York. California will shatter completely, and the situations in Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania will most closely resemble the Spanish Civil War. All of New England, New Jersey, Maryland, Delaware, and Hawaii will probably go full Communist without much of a fuss. Red states with large blue populations like Texas, Florida, Tennessee, and North Carolina, and the other states Biden stole (Georgia, Arizona, Nevada) will have serious, bloody Marxist insurrections that I expect will be ultimately put down, especially if and when the right loses its reluctance to actually fight.

Blogger Andrew Jackson April 03, 2021 11:09 AM  

There will be war.

Blogger pyrrhus April 03, 2021 11:10 AM  

@14. After the breakup, communities will need to defend against raiders...think "poor bleeding Kansas" in the 1850s..

Blogger kurt9 April 03, 2021 11:12 AM  

Its called a constitutional convention. That would be the most peaceful resolution.

Blogger Evangeline April 03, 2021 11:16 AM  

The Democrats have China on their side, so do that math and recalculate.
Like I have said before, the only hope here is Jesus Christ, and without Him, plan all you want, your plan is folly. In scripture God saves Israel every time Israel repented, but never without it. He says "If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves and pray, and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and forgive their sin, and heal their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14
There is no answer and no resolution that does not include Christ.
No one should be afraid to be a "hypocrite". We all come to Christ for one reason or another, unless we reject Him outright, which is altogether different. Then your fate is truly hopeless.
Turn to Him while you can. Ask Him to help you and help our nation. This is even far more a spiritual battle raging over our heads than a worldly one we can see. Be on the right side. God bless you and God bless America.

Blogger urthshu April 03, 2021 11:26 AM  

>>Problem is, where will those borders be? State lines?

Maps and history can help you out. Study not only political leaning but also where historical battles took place in the civil war and revolution, the movement of armies. For example, I-90 in NY is likely to be a kill zone in any open war for geographic and many additional reasons.

Blogger Jack Morrow April 03, 2021 11:27 AM  

For what it's worth, when Zager and Evans re-recorded In the Year 2525 in Italian, they changed the year to 2033.

Blogger Ron Tomlinson April 03, 2021 11:31 AM  

>Mexicans are not people who happen to live inside lines on a map called Mexico, Mexico is where Mexicans live.

So we named people after countries instead of countries after people. A linguistic convenience which seems to have culminated in a lot of bother.

Blogger wahr01 April 03, 2021 11:32 AM  

Tom d wrote:Every property I've inquired about in small town rural areas has had multiple offers and is under contract in a day or two. Even pre-lock down, VD was pointing out the Realtor report for 2020 showing Idaho was one of the most in demand regions.

Silicon Valley has been targeting the Boise Area as of about 2018, as well as Memphis and Nashville.

Anyone NOT wanting to live in "california" within 4 years should AVOID these areas.

Find places either not mentioned in tech trade papers or that are traditionally snubbed by blues. The more they cringe when you mention it, the more likely you are to get decent results.

Blogger Seth S April 03, 2021 11:38 AM  

Is texss the right side?

Blogger Crew April 03, 2021 11:41 AM  

STRATFOR- report on future says by 2075 - Northen Mexico, Texas , Okla home will be so high tech industrial it will dominate the world.

Hah. No way will Northern Mexico be high tech. Unless you think of drugs as high tech.

Blogger Don April 03, 2021 11:42 AM  

One thing to keep in mind is a breakup will cause a natural migration of people. I’m sure democrats and Latinos will flock to their “new” countries with the idea the wealth and freebies of the old system will still be the norm. Once the realization sets in whitey and red areas funded their adventures the race will be on back to whence they came. Hopefully we will have enough time to build walls, eradicate all forms of government handouts and mandate open carry to prevent another invasion.

Blogger TW9 April 03, 2021 11:47 AM  

I really look forward to simpler times and welcome CW2 in whatever form it comes.
I believe you'll never truly be ready for it, but things change all the time.

Blogger Felix Bellator April 03, 2021 11:49 AM  

@Jeff said, "The majority of economic activity is urban, but relies on rural agriculture and resource extraction." But how much of that economic activity is value added? Material production in those areas may be value added. But how much of the business is really just rerouting electrons into different patterns for so-called money?

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Blogger Rick April 03, 2021 12:05 PM  

“You can't have pure rural countries without urban hubs”

Let’s try it and find out.

In the mean time, explain why not.

Blogger Rick April 03, 2021 12:05 PM  

Hey Mush

Blogger Lee April 03, 2021 12:13 PM  

I think this is what Rex is talking about...

https://media.gab.com/system/media_attachments/files/070/595/902/original/219c75f2ec0ae3eb.jpeg

Blogger JonM April 03, 2021 12:24 PM  

Is there anything covid can't solve? It's the miracle issue of the day, able to take the blame for all things upon its fake shoulders.

Blogger Pencil Maestro April 03, 2021 12:31 PM  

I don't think there will be a break up. The so called pandemic and the election theft have proven that the people are completely powerless and that their opinions and choices are irrelevant.
There won't be balkanization because the 'elite' don't want it. They did want it in the case of Yugoslavia. The globalists allowed nationalism to do its thing in Yugoslavia. They won't in the US.

Blogger Bob April 03, 2021 12:32 PM  

A line from William Shakespeare's Henry VI, Part 2, Act IV, Scene 2. The full quote is "The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".

Blogger Crunchy Cachalot April 03, 2021 12:41 PM  

STRATFOR- report on future says by 2075 - Northen Mexico, Texas , Okla home will be so high tech industrial it will dominate the world. Energy, labor, independent = sorry no tax trasfer to mega cesspool cities.

Just more proof that the folks at STRATFOR don't know what they're talking about. Northern freakin' Mexico? That's one of the world's most depressingly horrible regions. And by the way somethin', there are three "cesspool cities" right in Texas: Dallas-Fort Worth, San Antonio, and the fourth largest city in the US, Houston.

"High tech industrial" is completely dependent on extremely fragile supply lines that already run through "enemy" territory. It will only get worse after 2033.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 12:44 PM  

Jeff wrote:You can't have pure rural countries without urban hubs or isolated urban countries without rural support.
The second is true. The first is true only if the rural areas cannot communicate except by going to the city.

The cities were where everyone went to market, where the tradesmen plied their trades, where the middlemen did their thing. With cheaper transportation and electronic communication, the medieval model of farms depending on cities is less essential.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei April 03, 2021 12:50 PM  

This. I have watched a lot of running in 2020 and most were squishy center right running to Red state, heavy blue bastions. Tell me how that fixes the problem? If anything its better for us in blue states: less numbers, more loyalty.

Blogger Colonel Blimp April 03, 2021 1:00 PM  

Every dam one. Succession is not the answer. Kingdom is. Both spiritually and politically

Blogger Black Bird April 03, 2021 1:17 PM  

Your wrong. Your saying Spain has that claim.
They claim a third of the southwest.
The Incas and Aztec claim Mexico back. We can keep this going on going back 2000 years
Oh by the way they lost that war.

Blogger Boo Boo the Fool, Esquire April 03, 2021 1:19 PM  

The Rothschilds were behind the Civil War. They backed the Confederacy (the statues Antifa is knocking down OUGHT to be knocked down) and they back the Conservative, Inc. traitor Laura Ingraham to normalize the public to accept a breakup.

According to Madison, Gouvernor Morris said this during the 1787 Philadelphia Convention (which nobody reads because everyone is apparently so smart from government school): "This Country must be united. If persuasion does not unite it, the sword will."

Nobody wants secession or disunion except the Antichrist bankers. They presume to speak for us.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 03, 2021 1:32 PM  

Read Chittum's Civil War II. He talks a little about the fractal nature of the conflict, although he doesn't use that word.

I've read that book. Unfortunately, he thinks the war will be strictly racial, when it's now clear that won't be the case, considering how many anti-Trump whites there are. And even where the racial lines are more clear-cut, such as in the South, his speculations about geography and enclaves are pretty much worthless, since it was written far before there was easy access to good data such as the Racial Dot Map. It's very much a newbie book.

Blogger Dafo April 03, 2021 1:37 PM  

I’ve also found that too many red states have blue big cities that dominate the areas around them. It’s hard to tell how states will shake out with hordes of migrating blue locusts trying to turn red states purple while leaving blue states only blue due to cheating.

Blogger The Portly Politico April 03, 2021 1:38 PM  

The correct answer is "South Carolina." ;D

Blogger ZhukovG April 03, 2021 1:58 PM  

Kurt Schlichter's books contain a plausible scenario. What is unspoken is that Red vs. Blue will largely be European against the rest. Granted a lot of folks will have to take their 'red pill' in enema form, but take it they will.

That said:

We're a band of brothers, native of the soil
Fighting for our liberty, with treasure, blood, and toil.
When first our rights were threatened, and the cry rose near and far
We raised up high the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star!

Chorus:
Hurrah! Hurrah!
For Southern rights, hurrah!
Hurrah for the Bonnie Blue Flag that bears a single star!

Blogger lowercaseb April 03, 2021 2:00 PM  

an x-factor to keep in mind is that an American Civil war will not be just Red vs Blue or City vs Rural. EVERY country that had a bone to pick with the US is going to jump in the fight and either get a few kicks in or grab some territory. Everyone thinks San Francisco/Oakland will go Mexican during CW2. Instead it's going to be a soft power Chinese port. They won't claim power directly, but they will use their emplaced assets to call the shots behind the scenes.

Blogger Azimus April 03, 2021 2:04 PM  

IMHO, whatever the red-and-blue patchwork remnants of the US map look like, they're going to be run by corporations or warlords, or both. The a-holes that are currently riding herd on the this giant ponzi scheme are not just going to take their ruin philosophically.

And as crappy as the laws are at protecting our rights, liberties, and property now, they are going to be worse.

Also, there isn't going to be some dramatic moment when "its over." No one's going to announce the end of the United States. They aren't going to board up the doors of the FBI offices. They're still going to have presidential elections. They're still going to play the national anthem at your son's basketball game.

Its going to be like the Warlords Period in China. There's going to be areas where the government doesn't assert control, doesn't go - could be mountains, could be cities. You'll hear rumors of ugly things happening there, but you won't see any videos because Youtube will take them down. Decent people will leave those areas. Then one day out of the blue, some armed men are going to show up and want your stuff - you don't know who they are, where they're from. They don't care about you or your politics, or your particular take on Edmund Burke or transgender bathrooms, but they're going to take your F-150 and any gas you have. And maybe your food too. And that's how you'll find out that the United States has collapsed.

I'm not looking forward to it, but I'm preparing for it. If you're not in a community, you need to get in one. Organization, communication. I think that's the key to weathering lawless times. Let history be your guide, human nature hasn't changed. Read about the breakup of Yugoslavia. The anarchy in Albania in the 90's, many other examples. It really did break down along national lines.

But my take is, none of this will happen until the government runs out of money. Biden's tax increase is going to happen - leviathan needs more money to keep running. Maybe not this exact plan because its going after the Top 10% or whatever who are very politically connected, but leviathan needs more money. It will get more money while there's more to be had.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 April 03, 2021 2:10 PM  

Just deport everyone who voted for Biden, except fertile Aryan females, who will instead be enslaved.

What are they gonna do, fight back? Just shoot them.

No civil war needed. Monarchy instead.

Blogger DonReynolds April 03, 2021 2:17 PM  

Anytime I encounter the word "diversity", I take that as an opportunity to counter with my own preference, which is DIVORCE-ITY.
WE badly need a National Divorce from incompatible people, so WE can go our separate ways into the future. Do WE need a period of domestic violence first, also called civil war? I do not think so and the threat of civil war should be sufficient to start the ball rolling toward DIVORCE-ITY, before it is too late.

Just to be clear though, there has NEVER, ever been a single nation called the United States. WE have always been separated into regionalism, even before the slavery question, a conflict that was brought to these shores from Europe. The same conflict that gave the English two civil wars, during the colonial period. The Puritans landed in New England and the Cavaliers landed in Virginia. Both headed West across this continent and defined the regions. Those regions have Never been fond of each other.

Blogger Bobiojimbo April 03, 2021 2:27 PM  

I'm smack dab in the middle of contested territory.

Blogger Iceeater April 03, 2021 2:34 PM  

The report said Austin/Houston/Dallas area will be the Tech hub.
The report said this area will be inventing many new things which will be made in adjacent area. Lots of open space and cheaper labor for building or upgrading plants.

Just south of border is a region called black earth.
Just north is a giant gas field . We drilled our side and sell them gas. They cant figure out how to drill it. Lots of opportunity.
I agree w Elon musk .




Blogger map April 03, 2021 2:35 PM  

The cities don't produce anything. At one point they were either ports or manufacturing hubs, but you can build ports anywhere on a coastline and manufacturing was outsourced to China. What amounts to economic activity in cities is "service" economies, basically, value-transference professions that don't create anything of value.

A little thought experiment. Imagine New York City was an Italian city-state. What would it export if it needed food?

Blogger Stg58/Animal Mother April 03, 2021 2:38 PM  

Given the economic turmoil that will only grow worse, imagine going full Weimar, then a charismatic figure arising out of that chaos.

Then the genocide really starts.

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 03, 2021 3:01 PM  

To use one example, what does Hollywood have that the do-er states can’t live without. Or NYC.

If you ask people in NYC or LA or Chicago, they'll tell you with a straight face that everything of real value comes from the cities. They don't have to worry about food and other resources from the land, because the rural people will come begging to trade food for the really important needs, like....um.... I dunno, but they're sure they have the upper hand in that trade deal.

Blogger Solon April 03, 2021 3:02 PM  

And America is losing the current war for California.

Did you just skip over the part where Vox said "Mexico is where Mexicans live?" Do you really think that if Mexico pushed a claim for the southern half of California, that the southern half wouldn't be in favor of it, or at least wouldn't be strongly opposed to it?

SoCal already IS Mexico, borders be damned.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 3:06 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:The mad Democrat spending and letting the money printer go brr will be the inevitable trigger for the implosion of the federal government.
Inflation will be a cause, but I think the occasion, the trigger, will be when the military pensions fail. When the mid-career military see that their retired mentors' pension checks won't buy a Value Meal at McDonalds, they will suddenly be open to offers. Any state that can credibly promise a pension paid in firewood and chickens instead of dollars will be able to outbid Uncle Sammy at that point.

A colonel who can deliver an intact, effective unit will probably be able to get a pretty good deal from his new homeland.

Blogger Unknown April 03, 2021 3:08 PM  

South Africa had a prophet by the name of Siener van Rensburg who said that there will come a worldwide Bartholomeu's Night, and after this, there will be an exodus of Christians from the whole world to Southern Africa.

In the future, the only christian country in the world, will be Southern Africa.

And the borders of this christian boer republic will stretch from Africa's south coast, all the way to the equator. The black population of Southern Africa will shrink to insignificance.

America will become an insignificant nation, but before that will happen, England will betray her to the Russians, because of her fear for Russian missile attacks.

A British army and an American army will fight each other in Egypt, and the American Army will prevail.

England will be utterly destroyed in a coming war.

Her seat at the peace table will be empty.

Germany will sit at the head of the peace table.

Blogger Solon April 03, 2021 3:14 PM  

I have a coworker from Long Island. She loves NYC, as only a New Yorker could. I visited once in 2007, and even then, just the *stench* of the place nauseated me.

If someone like China or Russia nuked it, they'd be doing America a HUGE favor. I'd raise a glass in their honor. That's how utterly alien the big cities have become in this day and age.

Blogger Evan E April 03, 2021 3:15 PM  

What could the cities possibly offer to trade? They USED to have culture that the rural areas lacked. It was always slanted left, but wasn't so blatantly and openly hostile to Christian whites (they had to be sneaky with the dose of evil and still made things entertaining to watch). Now their culture basically just says "Fuck you, Whitey! We taking your stuff!" They will be making nothing tangible in any significant quantity. The Jews fake ass money will finally fail too. Watching those parasites starve in NYC would be a fitting demise. Huge bank accounts, but flat broke in what matters.

Blogger Mr.MantraMan April 03, 2021 3:16 PM  

The CivNats were the sock puppets to utopian communists, now they are not needed and the CivNats have become the wreckers at best to the commies.

Upthread it was mentioned the "elite" don't want a YugoUSA, I'd say unless there is a super secret elite it is very much in the cards. I've said for years that foreign involvement in the political affairs of the USA Empire would be a sign of the end. Well with the D-party loons going off about Russia day after day that tells me they are projecting, I have read about this projection thing somewhere, remind me where.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 3:19 PM  

VFM #7634 wrote:Unfortunately, he thinks the war will be strictly racial, when it's now clear that won't be the case, considering how many anti-Trump whites there are. And even where the racial lines are more clear-cut, such as in the South, his speculations about geography and enclaves are pretty much worthless, since it was written far before there was easy access to good data such as the Racial Dot Map.
It's definitely dated. It was a pretty good effort for its time. If things get kinetic, the White traitors are likely to be eaten by their pets, so the end stages may be more like Chittum's vision than the beginning.

Someone, maybe Chittum, made a three-axis graph of the various sides in the coming war. If I remember rightly, one axis was urban vs. rural, one was rich versus poor, the third was skin color. That's a plausible set of spanning vectors for the conflict space.

Blogger brbrophy April 03, 2021 3:22 PM  

I don't think are going to have some special trade and travel agreement after the break up. Craig Shirley implies the split is ideological. I don't think she understands ideology is mainly subject to ethnicity. So we don't really have a special relationship with Mexico now and we won't when Mexico takes back southern California.

Blogger Brett baker April 03, 2021 3:22 PM  

+1

Blogger Damelon Brinn April 03, 2021 3:22 PM  

You can't have pure rural countries without urban hubs

Sure you can. Rural areas would go through some tough times if the cities suddenly weren't there to buy food and materials, that's true. But unless the urbanites actually kill millions of each other, they're still gonna need to eat.

My grandparents grew up during the Great Depression, some in town and some on the farm. The ones who lived in town could hardly talk about it, their memories were so bad. The ones who lived on farms remembered times being tough, but times were always tough. And they never went hungry.

Also, there's more out there besides big cities and "pure rural." Rural areas are dotted with towns in the 100-10000 population range. Those towns used to have lots of small manufacturing and retail businesses that supplied local needs. Most of those were wiped out as industrialization moved them to the cities and then offshoring moved them overseas. But the manpower is still there, and if you poke around, you can still find people who have skills. If war took away the cheap foreign competition and the oppressive regulations from the feds, there would be a boom economy of small town manufacturing. It's already starting.

Blogger boogeyman April 03, 2021 3:25 PM  

Politics is downstream of culture, but culture is downstream of demographic.

People on the right readily accepted the first part. I have a feeling they'll eventually accept the second part, although the process is likely to be painful and too late.

Blogger James Dixon April 03, 2021 3:30 PM  

> And those two are bound together economically.

Economics is not the be all and end all of existence.

> You can't have pure rural countries without urban hubs

You most certainly can. The transition won't be pleasant though.

Blogger Nostromo April 03, 2021 3:36 PM  

Lets not forget Austin. It's great to party in, but is a bastion on communism wit its ties to UT

Blogger Karen took the Kids April 03, 2021 3:36 PM  

The blacks are gonna have no one to blame when their states lose plumbing.

Blogger Nostromo April 03, 2021 3:43 PM  

The modern farm machine is almost soley dependent upon factory specialist to repair. It's a feature, not a bug instilled by Deere John. Thats why old machibery from the 70's are so valueable. They work, and they can be fixed by a farmer.

One can imagine a silk road type situation developing from moline down through the great plains.

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde April 03, 2021 3:44 PM  

Good choice of Song.

Blogger DrivingDissent April 03, 2021 4:10 PM  

If thing follow the pattern then a sharp divergences in the legal system is soon to emerge as political affiliation takes over our legal system. You may think it already does but contemplate how many of us thought the government was biased and corrupt a few years ago but the depths of the corruption and depravity still astounded us when fully exposed, such will be the case in law as social coherence breaks down...

The Façade of legitimacy will further collapse and all pretense of objectivity discarded as an obsolete relic of a passing age.

Blogger Bettey Fontaneaux April 03, 2021 4:13 PM  

""High tech industrial" is completely dependent on extremely fragile supply lines that already run through "enemy" territory. It will only get worse after 2033."

I can tell you right now, that supply chains are breaking down at this very moment. Large manufacturers are paying bonuses to their supplier's temp employees, to get them to work and to try to keep the warehouses full. Labor shortage is a real thing, and it is real today. Safety stocks have been drawn down everywhere. This is across industries: I know first-hand of aerospace, appliances, and building supplies. I am confident there are more. Wait until it gets to your utility provider. And it will, soon.

Blogger gunner451 April 03, 2021 4:19 PM  

It is not so easy to break away, you have to have organization and money to field an army (Just ask the Confederates). Yes you could have some low level of armed resistance but that can easily be crushed. Also do not doubt for a second that the left will employ everything including genocide in order to maintain power.

My own view is that the US will eventually look like Detroit. The parasites will suck all the value out of it before moving on to the next host. At that time you may see things break up as there is nothing really worth fighting over. But if that does happen I doubt that things will break along ideological or racial lines but rather along economic regional lines or we'll be carved up by however the powers that be are at that time (China, Mexico, etc).

In any case there are no safe places left to move to so just pick a place you like and hope for the best.

The migrants/invaders are not the cause of the disease but a symptom. The real root cause is that the US population turned away from Jesus, once that happened we were doomed. The long list of causes, giving women the vote, sexual promiscuity, the welfare state, big government, migrant invaders, all flow from that root cause. You won't fix any of it unless the root cause is fixed.

Blogger DrivingDissent April 03, 2021 4:28 PM  

Many people are going to starve. Gates and others are buying up agricultural land for a reason. If America is to serve as China's food basket and mitigated as a rival power then this necessities a radical de-population. A virus is not going to cut it, God has created man resilient to both natural and manmade contagions. The most one could hope for is 5-10% mortality in any given population. Pestilence, Famine and War its going to be all three, they synergize to maximize destruction...

Blogger The Observer April 03, 2021 4:29 PM  

What could the cities possibly offer to trade?

This.

As the efficiency of small-scale manufacturing improves to the point where anyone could theoretically make anything needed for common life with a 3-D printer, why do you need great industrial hubs?

What good are the ideas they produce when they're all anti-Christian filth? Better discourse is to be had online.

What actual productive skills do they have? They're not hubs of learning, not with mass communications; anything you could ever want to learn is on the internet. People aren't learning because they don't want to learn, not because they don't have access to the material.

Meanwhile their status as dens of filth and iniquity where the wicked seek to disappear into the throng, of pestilence and poor sanitation only surges, of status-seeking worthless strivers.

The advantages of cities have been obviated by technology, and every decade there is less and less reason for them to exist.

Blogger Unknown April 03, 2021 4:36 PM  

All but one of out parents are dead, and by 2027-28 I should be ready to cash out on law. This would have been a great time to sell, the Michigan market is hot for houses even though it is ice cold on office space.

But I have years more work to max out.

Where should we go in the south? Years of exposure to vibrant pastor/politicians in Detroit and the other diverse cities tell me to avoid anywhere there is a cluster of their kind.

I would say "you can tell when they are lying because they speak", but I think we already know that. And that they hate whitey with a passion. And laws. And civilization (except Dodge Challengers and sideshows, they love those).

So where is there good weather and no vibrancy or stupid SJWs?

Blogger Andy April 03, 2021 5:41 PM  

Vox, if the concept is being normalized now, then your prediction of 2033 may be too long, whereas in years past I always thought 2033 was a little too earlier. We live and we learn...

Blogger Akulkis April 03, 2021 5:46 PM  

>> We are if nothing else the long-haul tucking civilization and when the trucks stop running, look the fuck out.

Trucks will end up running in convoys with armed escorts. Very few escorts will be willing to run convoys into the cities -- not even if the escorts sympathize with the cities, because the chance of a U-shaped ambush are too great, and only the most foolhardy (not brave) truck drivers will make those shorts of runs, until there's no more of those with such poor judgement.

Blogger Akulkis April 03, 2021 5:55 PM  

>> The Constitution has failed and the federal government has become worse than the anti-federalist's nightmares.

This is true.

The Constitution contains lofty ideals. I am sworn to defend it. And I will. until the states admit that it's broken beyond repairs by people who have legislated, ruled, and given binding legal opinions in bad faith.

Failure to specify that religious freedom is for. Christian sects only was the crucial crack.

Blogger Brute_swayne April 03, 2021 5:58 PM  

Owen recommended more than a gas tank away.
That makes sense to me.

Blogger SirHamster April 03, 2021 6:06 PM  

Ominous Cowherd wrote:A colonel who can deliver an intact, effective unit will probably be able to get a pretty good deal from his new homeland.
Recently watched a history of the Roman civil wars and how generals were routinely proclaimed Caeser and duked it out with other claimants.

History does tend to rhyme.

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 03, 2021 6:37 PM  

I've never bought entirely into the idea of a breakup. But it's worth considering that twenty years, partition was the talk of lunatics. Ten years ago, it was the talk of extremists. Today...it's becoming a mainstream discussion point.

As others have noted, any partition will probably NOT be on state boundaries. Not with the Nanny-Nazis of the Left in play. Many states, particularly on the coasts, will break up.

On the East Coast, I would expect the boundary to run parallel to I-95...about 30 miles to the West of it, from MA down to the Washington DC suburbs. Southern Maryland, the Eastern Shore of MD, and southern Delaware may have to be abandoned.

On the West Coast, I-5 will be the boundary...but I would expect it to be much more of 2-3 Leftist enclaves. Greater Los Angeles and the SF Bay area, plus Portland and Seattle.

Blogger Hammerli 280 April 03, 2021 6:40 PM  

"So where is there good weather and no vibrancy or stupid SJWs?"

Umm...nowhere. The only place in the United States that I really regard as having great weather is San Diego. Fantastic...summers are no hotter than the mid-80s, winters in the mid-40s. The weather the rest of California brags about and doesn't have.

Elsewhere, you're going to eat either a cold winter or a hot summer. Get used to it. Focus on safety and civilization.

Blogger mushroom April 03, 2021 6:47 PM  

Hey, Brother Rick. Good to see you.

Blogger Avalanche April 03, 2021 7:15 PM  

@60 "Instead it's going to be a soft power Chinese port. They won't claim power directly, but they will use their emplaced assets to call the shots behind the scenes."

Because you think WE won't notice? The Chinese "skin uniform" is pretty damned noticeable in our Euro-derived nation! Sorry for the 'good ones,' but an enemy people is an enemy people and it's easier when you can tell them at a glance! We're going to need t he port cities and ocean access. We're going to want -- and take -- OUR military bases and equipment.

Part of the separation will be taking, holding, and divesting of others the lands and things we want and need to carry on and create a new state.

And no, the Chinese are NOT going to ship in a million (more) of their people to form up and hold land. When the break-up comes, the only 'troops' they will have here are already here. Don't forget the media has been planting the idea of huge hordes of Chinese soldiers here and in Canada, ready and waiting to sweep in.

Consider our northern border states. Many, many miles of barren land, with a decent number of rugged armed White folks who live up there. Where will the Chinese get their troop transports, and how will they get those THROUGH the contested lands to form up down where they CAN fight to take over lands and goods?

When it comes to it -- when the Saxon truly begins to hate -- folks wearing their not-us skins will likely find, after the early "softer" parts of the forcible separation, that they'd better scoot or die!

The level of anger, the slow-burning fury, in even the most nice, somewhat or more conservative White folks is growing. I'm finding it MUCH easier to get 'nice folks' to start discussing the horror of what is going on, what's being done to 'us,' the unwelcomed destruction and anti-White hate they see around them -- hence, the toughening, the 'K'-ward movement, the slow awakening to what's coming.

Keep WORKING on the normies and waking up fools. Even if they don't JOIN us, at least they may choose not to hamper us.

Blogger Avalanche April 03, 2021 7:29 PM  

@89 "anything you could ever want to learn is on the internet."

Ah, the cryptocurrency flaw. You ASSUME without thought, that "the internet" will still function when the country break down into warring city states. Yeah, sure, route around blockages, multiple DNS servers, backups of backups, etc. etc. When the ELECTRICITY goes off and stays off for a month -- how will you 'look up whatever you need'?

This is why our host is printing physical books that will help in the rebuilding of a civilization. When your Kindle runs out of power, and the 100 best homesteading books you downloaded as things began to go spicy can no longer be consulted....

Best make sure your prepping includes paper copies of books on how to survive.

Blogger awildgoose April 03, 2021 7:44 PM  

The constant autistic screeching about Russia is meant to distract from all the other foreign powers that are working to undermine the US through our corrupt uniparty.

Blogger Cappuccinobear April 03, 2021 7:53 PM  

This is why ideas and actions like beartaria are so crucial to those of us who do not believe in the beast.

Blogger My Comment April 03, 2021 8:01 PM  

The breakup won't be worth the hassle unless it is orderly and peaceful (if it even happens during this century) . The tribe will still control the media, entertainment and much of the other institutions. Israel will still be our greatest ally. The chamber of commerce will still want cheap labor. Single women will still want to import brown men to challenge Americans. The left will still control the educational system.

There needs to be a cultural revolution before a breakup or the red states will be right back to this mess in no time.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 03, 2021 8:18 PM  

Unknown wrote:All but one of out parents are dead, and by 2027-28 I should be ready to cash out on law.
It would surely be nice if the disasters hold off until you're ready to move.
Unknown wrote:So where is there good weather and no vibrancy or stupid SJWs?
Good weather attracts SJWs and vibrants. The high latitudes are your best bet to get away from them. Things aren't too bad at 64 North.

Blogger basementhomebrewer April 03, 2021 8:19 PM  

I will second this. I work for a small machine shop. There are shortages of everything and prices are going sky high. Even on simple things like cardboard.

As you say, any type of decent employee is very difficult to find and is becoming increasingly difficult to keep without killing the business on labor costs just to retain them.

Blogger Rick April 03, 2021 8:24 PM  

Likewise, Mush.

Blogger basementhomebrewer April 03, 2021 8:31 PM  

"So where is there good weather and no vibrancy or stupid SJWs?"


This is an impossibility. Even if you could find such a magical place, they wouldn't take kindly to you moving there. Stay in Michigan, move away from the cities there.

Blogger Akulkis April 03, 2021 8:58 PM  

>> Yugoslavia model: Blue states will graciously offer to control the federal army

Despite the fact that the only non-reservist troops coming from blue cities and blue counties are people seeking the fastest way out -- including the 18-year old black recruits.

Blogger Akulkis April 03, 2021 9:04 PM  

>> Assumptions aside, on a more serious note a breakup will be the least worst solution. It would require people not to be spiteful vengeful morons.

Utterly impossible with the left. The first requirement for travelling down the road to leftism *is* to be a spiteful, vengeful, moron. Almost always, it isn't even material envy, but a never ending anger that there wereother kids in high school (with likeable personalities) who were more popular with classmates, and others who were smarter who were more admired by the teachers.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 03, 2021 9:21 PM  

Why are all of you thinking about "when I retire to a comfortable place?" You give your youth, your labor, your best efforts to a place. What if your best just isn't that good? What if the place you want to move doesn't want you? What if there are skills you just didn't learn or practice? What if there are faith things that you just don't get? Or knowledge? Or manners?

If there is a Civil War, why would anyone welcome you to their enclave? Do you expect treatment at a hospital, ahead of, say, a pregnant woman, wife of a fighter?

Why do you think you will travel freely to comfortable places with better accommodations than you enjoy now?

Are you even capable of building and holding a house, a household, a family, a farm, a church, a town, a port, a city? How about even a working group at whatever job you do?

It's the thing I'm most impressed by, on performative online anything- someone who didn't build a town, and then can't hold it. There are ways of putting even, like, social caltrops in a town, to keep out riff-raff, without triggering fedgov interference.

I've seen one town manage it. I'm looking at a city sort of funneling damnyankees into fertility deserts. They'll be rich and die alone, in high-rises, without affecting anyone else's dirt. They won't even know what hit them. They repel average grifters by being so strange that regular types hate the place. I've seen Calis try to do regular town stuff, and the people just sort of circulate around them, without talking to them. You can be shunned, and not even know why or how it works.

There's a chance you 'll do your best, and you'll still have the dysgenic attitudes that mean you will live and die almost alone. It won't matter if you have a house- you won't have a wife or children. You won't know how courtship works. It is different, place to place.

Your best bet is to stick and hold and build. If you are right, people will flock to you. Nobody liked the ^&*(Normans, and yet, there they are, still everywhere they've ever put their feet on ground.

Blogger Akulkis April 03, 2021 9:21 PM  

>> Most of America's coastal strips are completely dependent on inland water projects that move water from the "rural" red areas to them. That's a lot of red state leverage.

Indeed, the western states and the corn belt would have forced pipeline construction from Lake Michigan westward if it weren't for a treaty between the U.S. and Canada, enforced by the Province of Ontario and the States of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio. Both right and left agree that allowing water exports out of the Great Lakes would be disastrous, the left for environmental/habitat reasons, the right for economics reasons (tourism, dredging costs to keep all of the shipping channels and ports deep enough for both local iron ore shipments and ocean-going import/export shipping.

I'm currently in the final stages of development of a patentable method to reduce the energy input required for desalination near to the thermodynamic minimum (differences in the beginning and ending enthalpy and entropy states).

And now I am torn between patenting it and licensing the use of the technology to coastal California, and literally. Collecting royalties of over $10,000/day from Los Angeles alone if I license it at the ridiculously low price of 1 penny per thousand gallons....
Or letting the California left coast die of dehydration in the coning war.

Of course, such infrastructure is always vulnerable to attack, especially from commando operations.

Blogger Fatty April 03, 2021 9:25 PM  

I'd say Hawaii

Blogger Pytor April 03, 2021 9:41 PM  

But they don't care. Notice how black culture capitals like detroit and oakland consists of blacks living in wreckage of a city they can't maintain and producing music. And they are really proud of this too.

Blogger MonsoonBear April 03, 2021 9:49 PM  

It's interesting that an msm source is talking about balkanization but to my mind, any sort of peaceful separation is a pipe dream. Those who herd the POX will not allow them to lose their greatest privilege - access to white people.

Blogger awildgoose April 03, 2021 9:53 PM  

The good thing about the supply chain shortages is that they work against the global Mark of the Beast system the controllers are trying to implement.

Blogger awildgoose April 03, 2021 9:58 PM  

Totally agree about crypto.

Crypto value is based on perception, wasted electricity, and wasted computing hardware.

Good luck transacting in crypto when they drop the Internet and the power grid.

I guess if your physical wallet was large enough you could club someone with it.

Blogger John Rockwell April 03, 2021 10:02 PM  

My Comment wrote:The breakup won't be worth the hassle unless it is orderly and peaceful (if it even happens during this century) . The tribe will still control the media, entertainment and much of the other institutions. Israel will still be our greatest ally. The chamber of commerce will still want cheap labor. Single women will still want to import brown men to challenge Americans. The left will still control the educational system.

There needs to be a cultural revolution before a breakup or the red states will be right back to this mess in no time.


Indeed. How can one really retain good demographics if leftist ideas will inevitably screw up the demographics once again.

Blogger Mr Smith April 03, 2021 10:15 PM  

Boo Boo, you're completely retarded about American Civil War History. The Confederacy was the American side. The war criminal Lincoln and the Union were traitors to the Constitution. And the fact that you're happy that Antifa destroyed Confederate statues, proves you are un-American trash like Antifa.

Blogger MadMax1861 April 03, 2021 10:47 PM  

April 3, 2033: The 2000th anniversary of the Crucifixion

Blogger Brian April 03, 2021 11:12 PM  

We have to eliminate States and be governed at the county level. It's the only way to eliminate the toxic blue metropolis from running roughshod over US.

Blogger kapy53 April 03, 2021 11:15 PM  

Interesting that about 30 miles west of I95 you have Gettysburg and Manassas.

Blogger kapy53 April 03, 2021 11:15 PM  

Interesting that about 30 miles west of I95 you have Gettysburg and Manassas.

Blogger KnightTemplarr April 03, 2021 11:16 PM  

When She was getting hammered for David Hogg I sent her show your SJW Attack Survival Guide via FB messenger. 4 times during the day the messenger window opened up like a response was coming I always wondered if the staff was cutting the link to send to others or just bad programming.

Blogger Ransom Smith April 03, 2021 11:18 PM  

The Rothschilds were behind the Civil War. They backed the Confederacy (the statues Antifa is knocking down OUGHT to be knocked down)
I'm convinced this theory is the Yankee equivalent of the jilted lover who can't fathom why their ex wanted to leave.
Give it a rest. The South didn't want to be ruled by Boston and New York.

Blogger Matt Bracken April 04, 2021 8:19 AM  

I've been saying it for years. I've written novels about it.
CW2 = Weimar X Yugoslavia X Rwanda
Once it kicks off, once the EBT cards and ATM machines stop working, once the food trucks stop moving, the blue hives are going to explode like hornet nests hit with clubs. All hell will break loose. Meanwhile, the ChiComs will take over Asia, and the Russians will take what they want from the Baltics to the Dnieper River, while Uncle Sam is absorbed by its own CW.

While Americans will have very little control of events, it will be far better to move far from the blue hive disaster zones and surrounding CW2 suburbs. Yugos had a choice in the 1980s to remain in Sarajevo or moved to Slovenia. Today it's New York or Florida. And don't be anywhere near Rwanda.

Blogger justthinkin April 04, 2021 8:21 AM  

@48 There won't be balkanization because the 'elite' don't want it.

Yes. How will this jibe with The Great Reset they have planned?

@58 Re SC: A relative in a gentrified Charleston neighborhood who was looking to move to the mountains was informed by the realtor that he could afford a place in Anderson with a VIEW of the mountains.

@78 Re: The Great Depression. When I learned in school about The Great Depression and saw the pics of the food lines and such, I asked my mom what it was like for her family. Poor rurals in southern Alabama hardly knew there was a depression.

Blogger matism April 04, 2021 8:24 AM  

Yet none dare admit that behind it all are the filthy maggot tribe swill, who yearn for the "good old days" of their Messiahs - Lenin and Stalin - who they helped murder FIFTY MILLION across Russia and Eastern Europe. But those surely do not count since they were mostly only Goyim!

Never forget that Bernie's campaign claimed the gulags "paid a living wage!"

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 04, 2021 10:54 AM  

justthinkin wrote:@48 There won't be balkanization because the 'elite' don't want it.
Yes. How will this jibe with The Great Reset they have planned?

The elites always have plans. They don't always succeed.

Blogger VFM #7634 April 04, 2021 1:32 PM  

As the efficiency of small-scale manufacturing improves to the point where anyone could theoretically make anything needed for common life with a 3-D printer, why do you need great industrial hubs?

From what I understand, there are now 3-D printers that can turn metal shavings into firearms. I'll just leave it at that.

Blogger Unknown April 04, 2021 3:51 PM  

The basic sides will play out mostly along economic and tribal interests. Tribal interests are, in their essence, economic, but culture and skin color help to coalesce them.

So everything will basically come down to economic interests. Blue cities are blue due, for the most part, to federal funding. Some state funding, yes, but the feds have the printing press, so fed funding is predominant. If that gravy train is disrupted, you can bet on a resetting of political lines.

Much of what we know as the positions of the "left" will dry up and blow away in a civil war. Imagine how the various sectors of the "left" would be affected by turning off the EBT benefits in a dark blue city for two months. How would the fractures between minorities, unions, journalists, local oligarchs, gov't employees, LGBTQRSetc., and feel-good liberals be exposed? Then apply that to a civil collapse or a civil war...

Feminism will go away, period. Women will need men to protect them and their children from other men who would enslave them. Full stop.

Homosexuality, love-is-love, gender-bending, etc. will all just be perversions on the other side of the tracks, like they used to be. Falsifying political power for a mere 2 percent of the population would be pointless.

Climate Change and Environmentalism are not concerns when you are desperately trying to find your next meal.

Equally pointless is concern for the oppressed, the down-trodden, the poor, or the "your-fellow-man." Charity starts at home, and homes, with strong families, will be a survival priority.

State power will fracture into smaller, more easily organized units, and their success will depend upon the delivery of safety, resources, and stability. Only after safety and resources are secured will alliances (and thus centralization) be created to increase stability. There will be some overlap, of course.

Cities will collapse into anarchy. Then, those that have natural advantages, such as resources, harbors, strategic locations, trade routes, etc. will be rebuilt along new political lines.

Personality politics will evaporate. The left already drops leaders like used tissues. What current leftist politician can you imagine maintaining any political pull if the shtf? What a joke. The only current politicians that could possibly have a civil war following are on the right. And even that is doubtful.

To cut to the chase, "Blue" will prove to be completely unsustainable. "Red" will also fracture to some extent, but will reform. And the new face of the politics will likely play out upon racial, religious, or local-cultural lines.

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