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Friday, April 09, 2021

The vampire society

 No, it's not MIDNIGHT'S WAR, it's what a society based on Boomer economics looks like:

When baby boomers (born between 1946 and 1964) hit a median age of 35 in 1990, they collectively owned 21% of the nation’s wealth.

The millennial generation will hit that 35 median age in four years and they are nowhere near owning that percentage.

As a whole, boomers have fared better financially than Gen Xers (born between 1965 and 1980) and millennials (born between 1981 and 1996) throughout every stage of their lives. Boomers currently boast more than half (57%) of the nation’s wealth, while Gen X owns just 16%, and millennials 3%.

Adults under 40 have been accumulating less and less wealth over the past 30 years, plummeting from owning 13% of the wealth in 1989 to less than 7% today.

Indeed, at a median age of 35, Gen Xers owned just 9% of the nation’s wealth in 2008 — less than half what boomers had at that age. And millennials will have to triple their net worth in the next four years to catch up to Generation X at 35, and increase their wealth sevenfold to catch up to boomers at that age.

That will be a difficult feat indeed considering most are saddled with student loan debt which has hit a record collective $1.6 trillion. The Federal Reserve estimates that more than a third of the 45 million Americans burdened by that debt are under 30.

When the Boomers said "never trust anyone over 30" they were warning the generations to come about themselves.

It also shows how ridiculous it is for Boomers to pull resort to their "when I was your age" nonsense.

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Blogger Romans 12:2 April 09, 2021 10:48 AM  

Day of the pillow when?

Blogger Teleport me off this rock April 09, 2021 10:51 AM  

What's the over/under on the "it wasn't me, it was those other boomers" posts?

Blogger Kingly Gift April 09, 2021 11:02 AM  

Interesting that you call it the Vampire Society, when Boomers are also literally buying the younger people's blood for their own consumption.

https://www.newsweek.com/2021/04/16/can-blood-young-people-slow-aging-silicon-valley-has-bet-billions-it-will-1581447.html

Blogger ChewbacaTW April 09, 2021 11:04 AM  

So what happens to all that wealth when the boomers die off? I guarantee that the GenXr's and Millennial's collective standard of living won't have a corresponding increase. The kind of wealth that the boomers possess is highly inflated and not cumulative like "capital improvments" are.

Blogger Autarky Bear April 09, 2021 11:05 AM  

It’s shocking how many boomers don’t understand why their successors hate them. I pray with time when the Boomers have mostly died off, we can rebuild the society they sold for Buick’s, Blowjobs, and debt.

Blogger Ben Cohen April 09, 2021 11:12 AM  

Why is generation x always ignored?

Blogger Ben Cohen April 09, 2021 11:12 AM  

Why is gen x always ignored?

Blogger Azimus April 09, 2021 11:12 AM  

Boomers currently boast more than half (57%) of the nation’s wealth, while Gen X owns just 16%, and millennials 3%.

So one of the biggest element's of people's wealth is their housing. Boomers double-benefit from the insane rise in housing prices because they're all divorced living in their own places - so they get a double-portion of the 25% housing increase of the last 5-6 years, while the millennials, sadly duped into the "urban chic" lifestyle where they pay thousands to live in a renovated warehouse and walk everywhere, get nothing. Paying $5 for a head or organic arugula might be good for your body health, but isn't helping you accumulate wealth either.

That said, the system is rigged to keep housing and land prices high because the swamp wants us all living in Soviet-style block apartments (hence Biden's "housing policy" to promote high-density housing in single family housing areas) - that the Boomers are benefitting from this is good timing on their part, combined with a complicity and willingness to screw over their progeny for money...

Blogger Unknown April 09, 2021 11:14 AM  

All of the wealth for generations born after 1970 was sucked away by the families who own the student loan servicing companies. Who happen to be god chosen people. They are handed corporations with literally risk free investments, because the feds buy back every defaulted loan including the usurious costs and fees.

The corporations change names every few years. Famously the CEO of Navient was only allowed to assume that role after he converted to Judaism. He married a Jew, and found a Rabbi council who certified enough blood in his background to allow him to become one.

Blogger Some Guy April 09, 2021 11:16 AM  

The more I learn about them, the more I genuinely loathe that generation. We will be better off without them. I hate to say that about other human beings, but it's objectively true.

Blogger Stilicho April 09, 2021 11:19 AM  

Better use a stake and a pillow lest they come back

Blogger k johnson April 09, 2021 11:26 AM  

You wonder why they called it the Gay 90's in downtown MLPS. Cause they were all those rebellious boomers in their 30's "coming out" and talking about civil rights and stuff. And these jokers are wealthy, and think civil rights has to do with where they stick their pee pee and everyone being happy for them while every one of their motives is selfish and self serving. Blanket statement, of course. I'm just speaking from instances I know of first hand.

Blogger jkmack April 09, 2021 11:33 AM  

Amen.

Blogger ThomasO April 09, 2021 11:36 AM  

I assume most generations try to pass wisdom on to the next generation but in boomers case, they ignored that wisdom more then normal AND passed no wisdom on to the next generation.
I say this as someone born in '61 though I don't really consider myself a boomer. For example, Woodstock was a big nothing, means absolutely nothing to me.

Blogger Yordan Yordanov April 09, 2021 11:41 AM  

So, what made the Boomers so successful? It's not like they were mooching off the younger generation when they were 35.

Blogger Steve Canyon April 09, 2021 11:42 AM  

Going to be hard to catch up when those cush boomer jobs that didn't require more than a high school education and had pensions were moved to Latin America, India, and China. And if the market tanks, the wealth tied up in 401Ks goes with it.

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde April 09, 2021 11:43 AM  

Boomers are also going to leave a substantial legacy to their offspring. Our economic policy is determined by the city of London. People are told what to believe and think to support those policies. Young men today should look into the trades. They are begging for certain skills-HVAC, electricians, plumbers, welders, machinists, etc. No debt and good pay. Start a business and you can do very well.

Blogger FacelessBro April 09, 2021 11:56 AM  

Aaaaand now I'm triggered.

Blogger RobertDWood April 09, 2021 11:56 AM  

Ah, the rich rewards of industrial education run by communists.

Homeschool or die.

Blogger LoneWolf April 09, 2021 11:57 AM  

Boomers (of which I am one) benefited from 1)a stable society which they fucked up in the '60's, 2)parents who sacrificed for them, and 3)an excellent education which, largely due to them, the boomers used to rise to the top in corporate/government America. The Hippie movement was the turning point. Created and controlled by Jewish Marxists, it fed the craving of the spoiled-brat boomers for aggrandizement. "...and you shall be as gods." (Genesis 3:5)
Some gods...

Blogger SoylentGreen April 09, 2021 12:01 PM  

I am a Boomer. Yeah!!! I have never said, "When I was your age..." but my kids all say wistfully, "When you were my age..." Such a jealous bunch.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 09, 2021 12:06 PM  

Boomer: “You young people today are so lazy, unmotivated and irresponsible! You won't go out there and knock on doors, giving your resume to the hiring-manager with a firm handshake, you won't take advantage of training-programs and go to school on your employer's education-program, and you waste your money on avocado-toast and then have the audacity to complain about not having enough money!”
Millennial: *Looking up from a lunch of ramen and hot-dogs* — “Avocados?”

Blogger The Observer April 09, 2021 12:08 PM  

So what happens to all that wealth when the boomers die off? I guarantee that the GenXr's and Millennial's collective standard of living won't have a corresponding increase.

it gets devoured by anti-civilisational estate taxes.

Blogger Chief_Tuscaloosa April 09, 2021 12:08 PM  

Millenials have been taught that the white patriarchy are to blame for their economic woes. And not taught to question anything they were taught.

Homeschool or die, indeed

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 12:11 PM  

1. It is ture that Gen Xers and Millennials were screwed economically.

2. It is also true that many Boomers saw the inflation that was coming early on (in my case, when Nixon took us off of the gold standard in the earls 70s when I was age 20). We in effect, exited the collapsing economic structure by getting into debt and investing in assets that the power structure had a harder time stealing the value out of.

3. Of course Boomers are better off than Gen X and Millenials. By the time they came along the economic structural collapse had already occurred.

4. Of course Boomers should help out their kids and grandkids. Those who can do so, and don't, are reprehensible. Maybe they were caught up in the general decline in morals that followed Vatican II in the early 60s when Boomers were children.

5. An Orwellian 2 minute hate against one generation, to address a multigenerational process, is unproductive.

Blogger Azimus April 09, 2021 12:19 PM  



Simple - economically we don't count. There's not enough of us because Roe v Wade killed off half our generation.

Blogger SCBen April 09, 2021 12:21 PM  

I was born in 1952 so I guess I'm a "boomer"! I don't get the outright HATE for a group of people who have succeeded doing what was ONCE considered NORMAL! My lifelong friends are all about my age. We grew up looking forward to the 4th of July, we worked small jobs while in school, we graduated with a GOOD education, we WORKED our way through college or entered our Armed Forces, we usually married our high school sweethearts, we started with a "starter" home, we raised our children without gov't programs, we painted and repaired our homes, we took care of what was ours and SAVED for our futures (if we could). The reason most of us have accumulated wealth is because we lived within our means and took care of what we had. My wife and our three children did not have many luxuries. The only way we took a vacation is from the extra income I earned preparing tax returns at night and on weekends. Once our children were grown and had their own families we began to save more but still lived in the same home, drove the same cars, and lived a nice life without debts. I know a lot of you all will hate us for that, but THAT USED TO BE CALLED NORMAL!

Blogger Watchu talkin bout Willis April 09, 2021 12:22 PM  

To channel and paraphrase former Colts Coach Jim Mora:

“Retirement? Don’t talk about retirement! You kidding me? Retirement!?! I just hope I can pay my bills!”

Blogger Glen Sprigg April 09, 2021 12:24 PM  

Yay! A Boomer thread! Now we get to hear a bunch of Boomers explain how we have to stop treating our elders so badly because hating them is wrong, while simultaneously taking credit for what their elders accomplished and shoving them into nursing homes!

Blogger OneWingedShark April 09, 2021 12:25 PM  

ChewbacaTW wrote:So what happens to all that wealth when the boomers die off?
The banks and big businesses get it.
That's why reverse mortgages are do hot.

Ben Cohen wrote:Why is generation x always ignored?
Because a huge portion were killed off via abortions, that and the cohort was always going to be smaller than that of the Boomers.

Geoffroi de Bohemonde wrote:Boomers are also going to leave a substantial legacy to their offspring. Our economic policy is determined by the city of London. People are told what to believe and think to support those policies. Young men today should look into the trades. They are begging for certain skills-HVAC, electricians, plumbers, welders, machinists, etc. No debt and good pay. Start a business and you can do very well.
Nobody believes the Boomers are going to leave jack for their children/grandchildren.
Your advice to "join the trades" is also haplessly out of touch: the globalists in power will simply flood the borders with people from Mexico/Honduras/Guatemala that "can do" plumbing/electricity/welding/etc and flood the market with cheap labor just like they've done with STEM and H1-B… and don't be a retard and say this hasn't been done, my family is friends with a family that owns a roofing/contractor business… guess how many low-quality businesses that hire illegals they have to compete with.

Blogger Canadian Warlord April 09, 2021 12:25 PM  

The most important thing to remember about boomers and their wealth: Do not build up their financial paper funds. They will be sucking out the real wealth and depending on X'ers etc. to keep throwing in until the funds burst. Avoid the whirlpool of that sinking ship, swim to safety! Precious metals and non-city real estate.

Blogger Balkan Yankee April 09, 2021 12:28 PM  

When I was your age? Don't get me started about how we had to low crawl across the gravel parking lot before morning chow because the CO was annoyed with us. (True story. But /s.)

Blogger Barbarossa April 09, 2021 12:30 PM  

But it's totally worth it because there's this awesome Tamil-Inuit fusion restaurant down the street. The walrus blubber curry gets rave reviews. I don't actually eat there, but, man, do I feel like un vrai citoyen du monde when I walk past.

Blogger The Last Roman April 09, 2021 12:31 PM  

Isn't this situation mostly the fault of de-industrialization, outsourcing and the national debt?

Blogger Mr.Cooper Bear April 09, 2021 12:36 PM  

I guess thats what the death tax is for.

Blogger Brett baker April 09, 2021 12:37 PM  

Didn't that occur in a Heinlein novel? Of course, iirc, society responded by outlawing everyone over 70.

Blogger Brett baker April 09, 2021 12:38 PM  

Because "I just sit back and watch it all burn".

Blogger Brett baker April 09, 2021 12:40 PM  

And flamethrowers.

Blogger tdcommenter April 09, 2021 12:41 PM  

The thought of having children never crossed Keynes's mind, and it showed in his economics.

Blogger Weak April 09, 2021 12:42 PM  

By inference, 2/3 of the people burdened by student loan debt are OVER 35. WTF? How long does it take to pay that off? I paid mine off in six years and thought it took me forever.

Blogger kurt9 April 09, 2021 12:42 PM  

The boomers also benefited from the Reagan economic growth of the 80's and the carry over of such of the 90's.

Aaron Clary's book (yes, I know he is not the official author, but he still wrote most of it) "How not to Become a Millennial" describes precisely how the boomers, as a generation, screwed over their own kid's generation, millennials. The three biggest factors is that 1) we have not had the decentralized economic growth of the 80's, since the 80's. 2) The rampant credentialism that made it necessary to have more and more educational credentials for any given employment. 3) the corresponding dramatic increase in the cost of university education that has even outpaced medical costs over the past 30 years.

I heard some years ago that one of the reasons for the dramatic increase in university education cost was that Bush 41 (Papa Bush) did "something" to exempt the universities from anti-trust legislation.

Blogger Unknown April 09, 2021 12:44 PM  

Though the generational stuff is a big theme of this blog, I think its importance, even in American where it somewhat applies, is greatly overstated.

However, its true that Americans born between 1946 and 1964 had a big advantage in being able to accumulate material things than Americans born earlier than later, due to being born at the height of American power. And they collectively seem to have been spoiled by the experience, and those who reached powerful positions proved remarkably unwilling leave them. Currently, even though the youngest Boomer is 56, a majority of the House of Representatives and two thirds of the Senate is Boomers.

The generation really hurt by this will turn out to Gen X. When all those people now in the late 60s, 70s, and early 80s holding these key positions finally die, there will still be time for the Millenials to move into them, but the Xers will be too old.

Blogger Unknown April 09, 2021 12:50 PM  

Disagree. The "Boo hoo! Woe is me! Eeeevil boomers!" thing has its limits.
Seem to me the "work hard, save harder, invest prudently and regularly" notion is likely more weak among Gen X and Millennials.

Blogger Kevin April 09, 2021 12:51 PM  

and for some odd reason, boomers love Mike Lindell's My Pillow.

Blogger 7916 April 09, 2021 12:54 PM  

I watched my first episode of Columbo last night. At the end, when confronting the killer, he says "You have no conscience. You project that on everyone, because you can't conceive that anyone wouldn't take money to walk away from a murder".

And that's it. Boomers project themselves and their experience on everyone, and can't conceive of a world that is fundamentally different from their golden age. They'll happily let you know about it too, because that's the ultimate virtue signal.

Blogger DannyDanger April 09, 2021 12:56 PM  

Sometimes rules have exceptions.

For instance: "Comments are not content", meet Boomerposting!

One of the most awe inspiring things I have come across in regards to Boomer financials is their completely over-the-top pension plans.

It is especially egregious in the public sector. I have had conversations where I was told of people whose salaries are paid out with guaranteed cost of living increases even after they have retired. Also, retiring with paid sick leave which has rolled over from previous years totalling over 900 hours.

These are the same Boomers who prattle on about the younger generations needing a reality check.

Blogger Iceeater April 09, 2021 12:58 PM  

The tax system is rigged to keep semi rich from giving the assets to family with out a tax event - unless u die. The govt does not want nuclear families to generate wealth.
They want u to stay in inventory.



Blogger basementhomebrewer April 09, 2021 12:58 PM  

So, what made the Boomers so successful? It's not like they were mooching off the younger generation when they were 35.

Their parents didn't import hoards of foreigners into the US, or offshore their manufacturing base to make their stock go up .50/share.

Blogger Skuli Jakobsson April 09, 2021 12:59 PM  

21% at 35 years...down to 9% ...and today's 35 years old with seven fold less than that... I knew it was very bad but this is...
I, simply, can't find the words.

Blogger Unknown April 09, 2021 1:02 PM  

I have a major issue with generational articles. If you think the years people were born are really important, they you would think you would want to come up with rules for the years your generations begin and end, and more importantly, stick to them. But mass media writers never do this. They are all over the map when generations begin and end, and then continue with the generalizations.

I challenged another blogger on this once, I think it was over him insisting that some public figure born in 1960 that he disliked was Gen X, and he responded that generations were states of mind and the date when people were born were unimportant.

The dates Gen X begins and ends is quite fudgy, so Gen X is normally a subject of calendar gerrymandering, with some mass media articles on generations pretending that Generation X never existed. However, with the Baby Boom and the Millenial generations, we can and should insist on clear rules. The Baby Boom was supposedly started by American veterans of World War 2 being demobilized, returning to their home towns, getting married, and starting families, leading to a spike in births. So it should start the year after World War 2 ended, in 1946. The current president is not a baby boomer.

For Millenials, the last year should be the Millenium, meaning 2000 or 2001. If you are not willing to do this, and I write this realizing the media consensus put the last year of the Millenials in the mid-90s, then come up with some other word to call them. Popular culture descriptions of Zoomers make them seem quite like Millenials because, well, they are. The oldest Zoomers had just graduated high school when the COVID lockdowns started, so no mass media articles have been written on them. In fact, one thing that will distinguish Zoomers as a generation is that even the oldest of them will spend their entire adulthood in the post COVID lockdown world. In 2020, American colleges generally turned into prisons and stopped even pretending to conduct admissions by merit, so already we know that the whole "college experience" will be quite different for zoomers.

For those who are curious, starting Boomers and 1946 and ending Millenials at 2001 puts Gen X at between 1965 and 1982, inclusive, though as bust generations, the Gen X dates are fudgy and Xers born in the late 60s/ early 80s tend to mirror members of the neighboring boom generations.

Blogger LaurelBear April 09, 2021 1:05 PM  

Just an anecdote of Boomer anti-logic for anyone perusing the comments. A boomer in my family inherented hundreds of acres of farmable land, pastures, property and heirlooms that were passed down through at least 4 generations. He lost it all in quite literally a fraction of that time through chasing women, 3 divorces and rabid selfishness. He will have nothing to pass on to his children or grandchildren. His family legacy (in all things but genetic) will mean almost nothing, the sweat and blood his ancestors spilled for their descendants is wasted. He tried (unsuccessfully) to convince his grandchildren to stop having children because "the world is going to Hell"...He doesn't even realize that he continues to contribute to the problem. It would be funny if it wasn't true. Thankfully, all the family knows why and how things ended up this way and how to avoid it in future.

Blogger xxxx0xxxx April 09, 2021 1:07 PM  

Yep, as a Boomer, working without a break since I've been 12 years old, I have wealth beyond your Lazy X,Y,Z'ers dreams.

Having eschewed God, work, logic, and reason, the crybaby generations are now out in the cold.

I am truly sorry that it's our fault, and not yours.

Blogger Cappuccinobear April 09, 2021 1:09 PM  

My guess is that their parents were more interested in creating and saving wealth for their children and grandchildren than spending it like the boomers.

Maybe I'm wrong?

Blogger Doktor Jeep April 09, 2021 1:12 PM  

And after all that we wrecked the economy so the boomers would not die from a cold that kills mainly the fat self indulgent type - boomers actually.
There was also a recent article on the use of young blood to fight aging. So after all that, the boomers want blood too.
Also, observing how Hispanic immigrants act, with a laser focus on material wealth, self absorbed, living beyond their means and multiple marriages and divorces, its seeming like less a white replacement and more of a boomer perpetuation. The boomers like them because immigrants are like little brown boomers. So no worries. When the old fat white boomer dies off, there are at least 3 brown boomers showing up. Of course they will vote demographics first so we'll still have boomers, but more like Brazil with boomers in it.
Unless God has mercy and smotes this shitshow.

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont April 09, 2021 1:13 PM  

Born in 1958. Parents divorced early in my life, lived in rat infested poverty until around the age of 8 when we finally moved to a place with no rats. I started working when I could and worked my way through college doing jobs that included shoveling rotten soybeans and maggots at Cargill. When I did not have a job in college, I did not eat. I did not get college grants or loans, and I did not expect anyone to help. Graduated and started work during a serious recession when jobs were hard to get. Became an Infantry officer and served for 6 years. Lost several jobs when the businesses where I worked failed before ending up at IBM at age 34. Was the sole provider for my family for decades. My kids are either engineers or mathematicians, all Christian.

Please tell me how I am not entitled to that for which I worked. Please tell me how what I have earned should be given to anyone other than my kids as an inheritance. Please show up at my house with a pillow. I would be happy to greet you with JMB's finest invention.

Quit whining like the "Boomers" you swear you are not like did at the generations before them. Be the hardened instrument of your own success and don't look to be handed anything, Sally.

Blogger Call Me Mort April 09, 2021 1:16 PM  

Don't you have to factor in the Kennedy immigration law of in 1965, the pill, abortion, and no-fault divorce? Those all have had a substantive impact on the numbers.

Blogger Barbarossa April 09, 2021 1:22 PM  

@15 Gee, ya think maybe being born into the one major country on the planet that wasn't devastated by WWII might have something to do with it? What's the saying? "Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple?"

Blogger Harsh April 09, 2021 1:22 PM  

"Why is gen x always ignored?"

We prefer it that way.

Blogger Long Live The West April 09, 2021 1:24 PM  

Did they do anything to be noticed?

Blogger Taignobias April 09, 2021 1:30 PM  

If you factor in the real rate of inflation, I expect it looks even worse. Entering my 30's now, I can count on one hand the number of peers who are married, own a house, or have literally any savings at all.

For clarity, most of my acquaintances descend from middle class Boomers and Boomerlets, with all that entails. Of my wealthiest friends, most are ex-military tradesmen from trailer parks, and even then only a few can afford the down payment on a new car, to say nothing of a house.

Blogger Matthew April 09, 2021 1:30 PM  

I will never not hate Boomers, even when they are all finally dead I will do my part to ensure that their memory is hated by future generations. They took everything from us.

Blogger wahr01 April 09, 2021 1:32 PM  

Gee, I wonder why the GOP refrain about "socailism" is not at all impactful on electoral turnout anymore?

I'm pretty lucky as a millennial and still question whether "retirement" is a dead concept while these jokers send $70k a pop to China to custom-build trucks for fun and larping.

The theft continues as boomer execs spent the past 18 months firing millennials into a pandemic, and even the growing companies had hiring freezes they refused to even acknowledge to themselves, meaning they're mocking their progeny by interviewing them for positions that don't exist.

If someone in my position is ambivalent as to whether Commisar Jamal shows up at their door to seize their property, I can only imagine what the 4 lower quintiles think of these people.

No wonder our cities have been burning. I'm a fighting-age male and wouldn't lift a finger to protect boomer property were I in one of these places.

Blogger Silex April 09, 2021 1:32 PM  

Boomers got theirs before the tsunamis of debt, immigrants, feminism, and leftism ruined everything. And when you are high and dry you don't think much about the flotsam drifting by.

Blogger qualitycontrol April 09, 2021 1:38 PM  

It's mind-boggling when old people tell me that I have it easy because I can watch the equivalent to Dallas in high definition on my huge television that has cost me a few 100€. Sure it is nice but I do not think that I would mind watching Dallas on a 1980s TV if I didn't know what a HD television was like.

On the wealth question: I have always wondered about the boomer's household budget. Did boomers simply have a very high amount of disposable income or was there less stuff to waste their money on? I can think of so many desirable items that simply did not exist 40 years ago.

Blogger KingKrawFish April 09, 2021 1:41 PM  

A huge advantage Boomers had was far more affordable housing when many of them initially bought in the 70's & 80's.

Blogger VD April 09, 2021 1:42 PM  

Disagree. The "Boo hoo! Woe is me! Eeeevil boomers!" thing has its limits.
Seem to me the "work hard, save harder, invest prudently and regularly" notion is likely more weak among Gen X and Millennials.


You're disagreeing with statistics, you stupid, evil Boomer.

The Day of the Pillow can't come soon enough for that wicked generation.

So, what made the Boomers so successful?

Their parents and grandparents destroying the industrial capacities of every other major nation. The 1950s economy was the reward for winning WWII. Literally no other nation had the capability to compete with US production. That's where the wealth came from.

Blogger Mikesbo April 09, 2021 1:45 PM  

What are the figures for the greatest and silent generations?

Peak America was 1960, when the effects of growing liberalism (communism, et.al), which began decades before, finally started overtaking America's inherent productivity. It's been downhill since, so no surprise.

It's more a matter of growing wealth stratification over time than a given generation. Those centered around Peak America and when wealth stratification was lower had more per capita.

You can hate boomers all you like, but neither that nor their dying off will fix the real problem(s).

Blogger VD April 09, 2021 1:47 PM  

I don't get the outright HATE for a group of people who have succeeded doing what was ONCE considered NORMAL!

Because they prevented everyone else from being able to do the same.

Remember, I hate Boomers, and I was a self-made millionaire at the age of 28. In my 50s, I still work harder than any of you ever have. I'm not jealous of you, I just hate and despise you for how you proudly helped destroy one of the greatest societies in human history.

Blogger kurt9 April 09, 2021 1:49 PM  

"It also shows how ridiculous it is for Boomers to pull resort to their "when I was your age" nonsense."

I remember as a child in the mid 1970's that boomers (my baby sitters' generation) could work typical summer jobs such as pool life guard and pay for an entire year's tuition at state university. This, and very little credentialism, makes this period totally different than today. The lack of credentialism in the early 70's made it easy to change careers as well.

There is no resemblance between 1970 and today with regards to this.

Blogger Glen Sprigg April 09, 2021 1:50 PM  

The Last Roman wrote:Isn't this situation mostly the fault of de-industrialization, outsourcing and the national debt?
Who the hell do you think is responsible for the deindustrialization, outsourcing and the national debt? Those things didn't happen on their own. They happened because an entire generation decided to make sure that they got to continue riding the gravy train at the expense of their children and grandchildren, and leave a dumpster fire in place of an economy for their children to inherit.

Blogger Jack Amok April 09, 2021 1:53 PM  

BOOMER: "When I was your age..."

MIL: "When you were my age, your parents hadn't sold out the country to the Chinese, you bastard."

Blogger Glen Sprigg April 09, 2021 1:55 PM  

Valerie wrote:Disagree. The "Boo hoo! Woe is me! Eeeevil boomers!" thing has its limits.

Seem to me the "work hard, save harder, invest prudently and regularly" notion is likely more weak among Gen X and Millennials.


Horseshit. We weren't given the chance to save, invest or do much of anything, since none of you Boomers would get out of the way and give us a chance to do so. You were too busy padding your investment portfolios and making sure that the younger people didn't have a chance at the better-paying jobs.

You didn't give us the chance to succeed, because doing so would have meant you got less of the pie. So you forced us into an ever-spiraling debt cycle of student loans, unaffordable mortgages, and entry-level jobs that couldn't support a single person, much less a family of four.

Blogger awildgoose April 09, 2021 1:55 PM  

Elizabeth Bathory was doing this back around the turn of the 17th century.

Blogger stevo April 09, 2021 2:01 PM  

I somehow managed to be a boomer without reaping any of the financial rewards. So I don't take the hate personally.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 09, 2021 2:05 PM  

@SCBen, so what? Your anecdotal evidence is irrelevant to the damage done by your GENERATION which includes about 80 million people total. Maybe YOU are a special boy, it doesn't matter, because the damage was done on your watch. The. End.

Blogger Greg from the Piedmont April 09, 2021 2:07 PM  

Matthew wrote:They took everything from us.

Hey, Greta! Never expected you here!

Blogger Harsh April 09, 2021 2:09 PM  

"Did they do anything to be noticed?"

If attention is your coin of realm, go for it. We know better.

Blogger Azimus April 09, 2021 2:14 PM  

@7916 - that the one with the chick lawyer and the European prep school daughter, right? Columbo is top notch. Back when every cop/murder show wasn't just subpoena the perp's phone records preparatory to a shoot-out in a junk yard or a auto mechanic...

Of course the latter is what Boomer Hollywood has given us...

Blogger OneWingedShark April 09, 2021 2:15 PM  

SCBen wrote:I don't get the outright HATE for a group of people who have succeeded doing what was ONCE considered NORMAL!
Read this sentence you wrote again.
And again.
And a third time.
Now, realize that it is almost impossible to succeed doing “what was normal” — it is difficult to save, considering how high housing has risen; it is difficult to “marry the high-school sweetheart” because she's already indoctrinated into feminism… and even if you do, the family courts have decided it's their role to screw men over, even if they worked their asses off trying to be good fathers/husbands; it's damn-near impossible to get a job out of high-school because of the illegals; it's difficult to get a job after college, even if you shunned the bullshit and went STEM, because of the H1B-fraud; it's difficult to advance in a single company because Boomer-management gutted all employee-training culture in favor of “hire people that already know” — THAT is why later generations hate what you have done: you squandered even the ability to have success.

The Last Roman wrote:Isn't this situation mostly the fault of de-industrialization, outsourcing and the national debt?
Boomer management did that.

Weak wrote:By inference, 2/3 of the people burdened by student loan debt are OVER 35. WTF? How long does it take to pay that off? I paid mine off in six years and thought it took me forever.
The elite want their slaves.

Skuli Jakobsson wrote:21% at 35 years…down to 9% …and today's 35 years old with seven fold less than that… I knew it was very bad but this is…
I, simply, can't find the words.

Now you begin to understand why “Ok, Boomer” is used — the Millennial's parents/parents'-generation is incapable of even listening when we say “Shit, I'm tired. I can't seem to succeed at anything… every time I have something saved, another ‘once-in-a-lifetime’ event destroys it all, from 2008's GFC to 2020's Corona-crash.
(Just look at the suicides.)

Blogger Harsh April 09, 2021 2:20 PM  

"Yep, as a Boomer, working without a break since I've been 12 years old, I have wealth beyond your Lazy X,Y,Z'ers dreams."

Doubtful. You seem poor in spirit like most boomers.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli April 09, 2021 2:21 PM  

Boomers are oblivious. Even the ones who are marginally tapped in cannot fathom how they should be planning and living for future generations who are facing a shitstorm of epic proportions.

Blogger glueballs April 09, 2021 2:23 PM  

it gets devoured by anti-civilisational estate taxes.

Not for high net worth boomers. They’ve created loopholes for their sort. For example, they’ll establish trust plans whereby they’ll deposit large sums and properties naming themselves and their progeny beneficiaries. When the boomer dies the progeny continue to draw from the trust until they die after naming their own progeny as beneficiaries and so on through the generations. There is some tiny loss from administrative expenses but the much greater costs of taxation are avoided until the children pay income tax directly. This predates the boomer generation but the boomers moved it offshore and created fake corporations that show fictitious “losses” thus offsetting the kids’ income tax liabilities so they are essentially living for free.

Blogger judgeholdem1848 April 09, 2021 2:23 PM  

If you factor in the real rate of inflation, I expect it looks even worse. Entering my 30's now, I can count on one hand the number of peers who are married, own a house, or have literally any savings at all.

It's anecdotal but I know the numbers are accurate to about +/- 20 percent. When my dad was 35 in the mid 80s, he built a house in the low 100ks. It was big but not huge in an upper middle class neighborhood.

I crunched the numbers on comps. To build a similar home in a similarly desirable neighborhood in the same MSA today would cost about $1M. And this is by no means an expensive market. Similar 20 year old homes are $750k. There's how boomers get to 57% of wealth.

Unless you're a juiced in corpocrat, a black swan entrepreneur or some flavor of gangster, your chance of ever actually owning even a modest home sans onerous debt at this point, starting from zero, is effectively nil.

Blogger Elder Son April 09, 2021 2:28 PM  

1959 Boomer, my wife a GenX'er. We feel blessed that our children (and their friends) are succeeding financially in life and family. None of them went to college/university. It can be done, if you're not a bunch bitching whining twinkies living on feelz.

Anyhow, the fall of the dollar:

https://www.advisorperspectives.com/dshort/charts/inflation/inflation-purchasing-power-of-dollar-since-1871-log-scale.gif

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli April 09, 2021 2:29 PM  

Valerie wrote:Seem to me the "work hard, save harder, invest prudently and regularly" notion is likely more weak among Gen X and Millennials.

Boomer-tier self-awareness.

Blogger Across the World April 09, 2021 2:38 PM  

These boomer responses have got me the point where once they are gone, I am 100% in favour of exhuming their corpses burning them in a mass grave and using the stones from their gravestones and the wood and nails from their coffins to rebuild civilization.

Blogger Hoss April 09, 2021 2:38 PM  

Yay! A "boomer" thread! Now we get to hear how the generations that have come after "boomers" have been screwed. I know a whole bunch of gen x that are very succesful and dont spend much time hating on anyone. They just go to work, provide for they're families and dont dream of pillow parties. On this site i have seen people actually complain that dad never showed them what the names of tools was or that mom didnt show them how to cook. Weak sauce. You are painting with way to large of a brush as you try to fit all into one neat box.

Blogger swiftfoxmark2 April 09, 2021 2:40 PM  

ChewbacaTW wrote:So what happens to all that wealth when the boomers die off? I guarantee that the GenXr's and Millennial's collective standard of living won't have a corresponding increase. The kind of wealth that the boomers possess is highly inflated and not cumulative like "capital improvments" are.

Most of the Boomers are still in debt. So all the Gen-Xers or Millennials are going to get is their old Beetles albums.

Blogger Azimus April 09, 2021 2:40 PM  

27. SCBenApril 09, 2021 12:21 PM
I was born in 1952...we worked small jobs while in school, we graduated with a GOOD education, we WORKED our way through college or entered our Armed Forces, we usually married our high school sweethearts, we started with a "starter" home, we raised our children without gov't programs, we painted and repaired our homes, we took care of what was ours and SAVED for our futures (if we could).


I'm you, Model 1979. I worked my way through school, have an engineering degree, married HS sweetheart, worked two jobs for 7yrs, and again recently due to Covid. I do my own car repairs, learned to remodel my house. I'm 42 and I was up til midnight last night ripping out our bathtub p-trap & overflow system because it was leaking enough now that the bucket under the pipe had to be emptied daily, and couldn't wait anymore. I fixed it myself for $60 of parts at Home Depot and 4hrs of my time, because I can't afford to hire a plumber to charge me $200-$300 for same job - my kids need braces. I drive a 17yr old truck, my wife has the good car (a 10yr old minivan).

I'll bet that's where you were, when you were 32. Its not because I don't work hard - I put in a minimum of 50hrs/wk at the plant including going in on most holidays, then I come home and work on the house, or car, or some other thing that needs mending. Probably just like you and your friends.

But the point is, for (lets assume) the same effort, I'm at the same point as you, when you were considerably younger than me. And there is NO way around that reality. The rules of the game have changed, in response to greed and complicity of the generation that oversaw it all, voted for it all, amassed it all, and still wants more.

Want an example? Those retirement camps they build all over the place, with their own zip codes and municipal governments - they were specifically organized so that the residents wouldn't have to pay school tax. Think about that - your generation is intentionally stealing funds for the education of their grandchildren so that they can have another strawberry daiquiri or round of golf. Literally NOBODY thought of that before your generation. You must see that is not a coincidence, and that's just an example I heard over the Easter holiday. NOBODY is as greedy as the Boomers. I could go on and on about my own relatives, but its pointless. You'll just NABALT this whole discussion and move on, because you're a Boomer.

Blogger map April 09, 2021 2:41 PM  

basementhomebrewer wrote:So, what made the Boomers so successful? It's not like they were mooching off the younger generation when they were 35.

Their parents didn't import hoards of foreigners into the US, or offshore their manufacturing base to make their stock go up .50/share.


Yes, VD is right that US industrial capacity was not destroyed in WWII, but the US was the world's biggest industrial power even before the war and much of the industrial capacity of the rest of the world depended on both US investment and export to US markets, so this is not the source of the boomers' success.

The real success of the Baby Boomer comes from riding the crest of the income inequality curve.

The Boomer years before 1973 were characterized with a high standard of living, a relatively flat income inequality curve, and high quality public services that had a low barrier to entry.

As late as 1968, tuition at, say, the University of Illinois was $350 a year, where that included full health insurance and the ability to take as many classes as you wanted, shortening the graduation period. You could pay for that tuition with a full-time summer job and still have enough money left over for a down-payment on a Ford Mustang. That summer job, btw, was "waiter," not "corporate lawyer."

The early Boomer's were in a position to secure things like homes, mortgages, an education, and union jobs out of high school before the rise of the mass immigration effect and the inflation created by the Hart-Cellar Act and removal of the gold standard. They were in a position to secure these upwardly mobile things when it was easier to do.

The oldest boomers would've graduated college in 1986, but this was well into the the Reagan boom and the labor and regulatory arbitrage years of "free trade."

So basically, boomer success depends on the years they turned 18, or the years they graduated from college. The most successful boomers are the ones who graduated from college before Nixon got us off the gold standard and just at the beginning of the Reagan boom.

The least successful boomers are the ones who turned 18 or graduated college somewhere in the mid-70's, during the highest stagflationary period in US history. Still, these are people who would've recovered during the Reagan years and then consolidated their control in the 90's with the election of Bill Clinton. It was downhill for America since then when Bill Clinton discovered that Karl Marx supported free trade.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 09, 2021 2:44 PM  

OneWingedShark wrote:Your advice to "join the trades" is also haplessly out of touch: the globalists in power will simply flood the borders with people from Mexico/Honduras/Guatemala that "can do" plumbing/electricity/welding/etc and flood the market with cheap labor ...
That's true, and that's bad, but it is still better advice than telling them to go to college.

Blogger Across the World April 09, 2021 2:44 PM  

These boomer responses have got me the point where once they are gone, I am 100% in favour of exhuming their corpses burning them in a mass grave and using the stones from their gravestones and the wood and nails from their coffins to rebuild civilization.

Blogger Noah B. April 09, 2021 2:45 PM  

We shouldn't hold grudges against those who, through some combination of hard work, cleverness, and sheer luck, earned outsized shares of wealth. But destroying your nation for profit, as so many Boomers did, is contemptible.

Blogger Didas Kalos April 09, 2021 2:47 PM  

The next generation reaps what the previous generation sowed.

Blogger Vlad Z. April 09, 2021 2:47 PM  

How unique is this to the USA? I don't know, and wouldn't even know where to research it. We had a very unique and dominant economic position after WW2 - when the boom started. It stretched on for a long time. In the 1950s and 1960s America was the only source for a lot of manufactured goods. Even in the 1970s - compare a Chevy Impala (a classic America family car, not the fanciest car made in the USA) circa 1975 with the first BMW imported, the 2002. That was the start of the USA having to compete a little.

So, the early boomer was 30 at that point, and the youngest boomer was 10 years old. They had a lot of very good years in the shadow of the complete destruction of all industry on the planet.

American Leftists always point to circa 1975 as a sort of peak prosperity where a single blue-collar job could pay for a suburban home. No doubt it was.

Today's 30 year old is competing with people in Manila to do call center work, people in Shenzen to assemble electronics, people in Mexico to screw Jeeps together, and people in Costa Rica to do secretarial work. There is no monopoly on either industrial plants or knowledge.

The boomers (in the USA) failed to protect their kids and grandkids from globalization, instead embracing it for the sugar high of outsourcing.

We are certainly at an end point now. What comes next will be interesting.

Are the boomers having the same situation in Italy, Spain, Asian countries? They had vastly different circumstances coming out of WW2.

Blogger lynnjynh9315 April 09, 2021 2:53 PM  

More than 75% of the workers in my field are retiring. When I asked my boss why he thought this was so, he said, 'it's millennials, you know. They're lazy."

I just nod my head. Learn what you can from the boomers, dismiss the rest....

Blogger Didas Kalos April 09, 2021 2:53 PM  

So do you want us all to say we're sorry for impugning the generation of Boomers for noticing the depravity, narcissistic behavior, godless living, and literally voting for politicians who were killing America as we knew it? Ain't gonna happen.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 09, 2021 2:59 PM  

Valerie wrote:Seem to me the "work hard, save harder, invest prudently and regularly" notion is likely more weak among Gen X and Millennials.
Work harder than the swarthy hordes of turd worlders the Boomers imported to replace you.
Save harder, if there is anything left over after making the student loan payments and buying Ramen for the week. The Boomers insisted that you had to go to college.
Invest ... nothing, because nothing is all you have. Thanks, Boomers.

Blogger dienw April 09, 2021 3:00 PM  

KingKrawFish wrote:A huge advantage Boomers had was far more affordable housing when many of them initially bought in the 70's & 80's.

Another big advantage was having working class parents who were forced to economize during the Great Depression. The curse of the Boomer male was to marry spendthrift wives.

Blogger Didas Kalos April 09, 2021 3:03 PM  

Maybe there should be a 16 point essay written on How OK Boomer Destroyed America.

Blogger bramley bramley bramley April 09, 2021 3:03 PM  

The area around where i live is owned largely by a single family. They inherited land and property possessions built up over 400 years by their ancestors. Until recently it was run as a quasi seigneural fiefdom, with the family living on rents from the land and operating a fairly large workforce to maintain and run the property, providing them with free housing, putting on entertainments for the local people in the grounds of their castle. The new generation to inherit have thrown up all of that in the space of a few years, and are undergoing the process of systematically dismantling what their forebears built up over centuries, turning their lordly manor and properties into liquid assets, absolving themselves of responsibility for the maintenance and transmission of their inheritance onwards to their heirs. Pure boomerism in kind.

Blogger Harambe April 09, 2021 3:03 PM  

The boomers got rich off the post-war economic boom.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 09, 2021 3:05 PM  

SCBen wrote:I don't get the outright HATE for a group of people who have succeeded doing what was ONCE considered NORMAL!
Vox already said this, but Boomers are the reason all that stuff is no longer considered normal, no longer even possible.

You scum climbed the ladder, then pulled it up after you.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 09, 2021 3:14 PM  


@3

By younger people, do we mean aborted babies?

@8

Having watched several friends divorce (most wife initiated) in the last five years or so, I think it is the most wealth destructive thing you can imagine for ordinary people. Beyond attorneys and court fees, in many cases the house is sold to divide up the proceeds and there's now a need for two residences and wasteful incidentals like shuttling kids back and forth between parents. I'm so glad I haven't had to deal with that emotional and economic wreckage. Of course, both my wife and I had the good fortune to be raised by married until death parents, for whom divorce wasn't a thought, let alone an option.


"When baby boomers (born between 1946 and 1964) hit a median age of 35 in 1990, they collectively owned 21% of the nation’s wealth."

I remain convinced (as somebody who has a completely red-pilled brother born in 1964 and an NPR listening brother-in-law born in the late 1940's that this range is ridiculous), designed by some federal bureaucrat like Fauci.) Nobody born after 1960 has that much in common with the people that grew up watching Howdy Doody and the Mouseketeers. It's the ones born between 46 and 55ish that are the ones making the Medicare supplement commercials that say "with this virus situation, I want ALL THE BENEFITS I'M ENTITLED TO)

@9

Of course the real vampires are the colleges and universities. When I was at Penn State in the mid 1980's tuition was about $2,000 for a full year of up to 36 credits. I was able to get through with some debt, mostly due to having changed majors and having been on the "five year plan". Otherwise, working at $3-4.00 an hour for a summer job, grants and my small scholarship would have covered it.

Today Penn State (depending on year, major and campus) is about $18,500. There's no summer job other than being a digital whore on Onlyfans that makes a dent in that and of course you are force-fed big helpings of useless "diversity" courses. They don't care that they are laying enormous burdens of usury on their victims that require them to postpone life, marriage and investment. What's really ghoulish is the way student loans were (are?) CDO'd like mortgages, but with federal guarantees. As of last year, Student loans made up more than $1.5 trillion in outstanding debt in the United States from more than 44 million borrowers.



@5

I know a woman whose 35ish year old vegetarian Obama supporting daughter quit her job in NYC a couple of years ago (because, she told her mother, her industry was a largely unknown major contributor to green house gases) and was going to travel the country with her pre-COVID work from anywhere there's a PC and broadband cohabitating boyfriend. Her prospects for wealth accumulation are terrible. She'll either be a childless cat lady or a woman in her late 30's spending money on fertility treatments. I wonder what her "re-entry" plan is for when he realizes that supporting a non-wife, non-mother is being taken advantage of. She's not atypical of millenials and not going to rebuild anything.

I am gratified that my teenage niece thinks that was about the stupidest thing she's ever heard. You should see how her peers hate the generation that came before THEM.







Blogger Harambe April 09, 2021 3:17 PM  

I'm always amazed to hear how lazy I am while working 14 hour days at a "top paying job" that only barely pays for a 3 bedroom house.

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 3:21 PM  

One reason they are upset is because they COULDN'T get a good education in government schools. I would be upset too.

Blogger Richard Holmes April 09, 2021 3:24 PM  

I remember the great economy of the 1980's. Went from having a great job to being homeless. GenX's went from living at home to being homeless. In the late 80's I landed a good job. I started at $6.18 and hour in 1988. Got plenty of overtime, had a wife that couldn't figure out that spending 110% of your wages puts you in debt. When the debt reached alarming levels, said wife left and left me with the debt and a child support bill. Learned a lot on my new job which I still have, 3 companies later... still same job.

That's the gist of my story. Am I guilty? maybe, social stuff I am a bit thick. But I read that 57% of the countries wealth in the hands of baby boomers? Well, that shocked me. That is a LOT. What's worse is how low GenX and Millennials share is... I'm saddened. All the GenX and millennials I know are not lazy and work hard, they seem pretty normal.. To know they have so little of a share in this country kind of shocks me as well.

Remember, I hate Boomers, and I was a self-made millionaire at the age of 28. In my 50s, I still work harder than any of you ever have.-VD

This I don't doubt. But not all boomers are lazy asses living off an inheritance from their parents. Some of us work as hard as you. I don't know if I do or not. I'm not sure how hard you do work. I'm in my 50's as well.. 2 weeks I will be a grandpa! Yeah! Shoot, I'm old, but not too old yet.

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde April 09, 2021 3:24 PM  

Don't blame boomers, blame the globalists. People react to external stimulae consistently. You would not have done otherwise. The globalists are the root cause of this issue.
Trades are still sorted by skill sets. Roofing is not one of those. You seem bent on despair. I had my kids late in life so they wouldn't be pussy millennials.

Blogger Reader April 09, 2021 3:25 PM  

The percent of Boomers at that time was probably greater than Gen-Xers, Millenials. Lots of them. That's why they are called the Boomers. Collectively, they would own a greater piece of the pie than the smaller numbers of Gen-Xers and Millenials.

But even if the numbers were the same, the ongoing commiefication of America that is destroying the middle class would still mean a smaller pie for Gen-Xers and Millenials. Subsequently, there are the hordes of ignorant third-world cheap labor, the majority of which fall into the Gen-X and Millenial generations, also, the majority of which live at poverty levels. Take away their collective wealth, and real Americans of those generation have even less than the numbers we see here.

Whoever is responsible for the cancer of communism is responsible for the declining wealth of the generations. Boomers inhaled, ingested, and covered themselves in all the carcinogens that spread the cancer. That was Stage 1 cancer, not even noticeable. Now, America is at Stage 4, metastatic cancer. It will not survive for much longer.

Blogger Geoffroi de Bohemonde April 09, 2021 3:26 PM  

Yes. Exactly that. When I was a kid. They promised us 30 hour weeks and robot servants. You think you're pissed!

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 3:27 PM  

You got it. All problems that Boomers should have worked on a little harder But, "There are 4 things that come not back: The spoken word, the sped arrow, the past life, and the neglected opportunity."

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 3:34 PM  

As VD has explained MULTIPLE times, these Boomer rants are not about outliers like you. Moreover, although your history is admirable, and your advice is sound, it would be much harder for a young person to duplicate your success today.

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 3:43 PM  

"Helped destroy" - Exactly. Boomers did not stop the process the we inherited and now we are too old to stop the process.

Blogger Fo4Ho1 April 09, 2021 3:45 PM  

They don't know that people like you exist. Or me.

Blogger map April 09, 2021 3:51 PM  

SCBen wrote:I was born in 1952 so I guess I'm a "boomer"! I don't get the outright HATE for a group of people who have succeeded doing what was ONCE considered NORMAL!

The system makes it so that the younger generations cannot meet the same milestones as their parents. First job, first relationship, first house, first child are all inexorably pushed into later and later years.

That's why millennials especially are so angry.

Blogger Fo4Ho1 April 09, 2021 3:52 PM  

Frick all of you dumbass boomer haters. I wasn't following some stupid ideology because of selfishness or ignorance. I just got a job, worked at it for 35+ years, retired, started a new business and hope to leave a good legacy (name and $$) to my multiple children. Piss off whiny assholes.

Blogger Silly but True April 09, 2021 3:58 PM  

Jeez, quit slacking Millennials.

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 4:19 PM  

I must say that this 2 minute Boomer hate fest has gone a little more into the generational essentials of what went wrong. I still think that the WWII "Greatest" generation is getting off too easy. The question is, what is the best course NOW to clean up the mess? A tax on "non profit" universities to fund a jubilee for student debt would be a start. A replay of Henry VIII's abolition of the monasteries (with our big universities playing the part of the monasteries) might also be a good idea. Use the proceeds to fund a reparations check to the younger generations.

Blogger DrivingDissent April 09, 2021 4:26 PM  

I remember in the 90's Boomers big time pressuring older people out to make way for them while simultaneously arguing for loweriny wages for knew inexperienced hires... At the time I thought this was normal just the way the world worked... Now I see clearly what Boomers are about as I do not wanna kick older workers out nor have new hires paid less to subsidies my earnings.

Blogger Nils April 09, 2021 4:35 PM  

"5. An Orwellian 2 minute hate against one group of selfish arrogant and evil people of which I am one, to address a multigenerational process, is unproductive." There fixed your point boomer, now croak.

Blogger RC April 09, 2021 4:36 PM  

As a late Boomer I loath my cohort too but I do want to encourage you younger men. It is possible to succeed in this mess. I've been mentoring younger men for over twenty years and have seen some of these guys increase their income five-fold over a five to eight year period.

Find a mentor. Start a side-gig: fireworks, gunsmithing, programming, HVAC, car repair, whatever you're good at, and work to turn that into a business. You can do this in spite of the mess we're in and you'll be in a position to build a family and help save Western civilization. You can do this and our civilization needs you.

Blogger The Lab Manager April 09, 2021 4:36 PM  

kurt9 wrote:The boomers also benefited from the Reagan economic growth of the 80's and the carry over of such of the 90's.

Aaron Clary's book (yes, I know he is not the official author, but he still wrote most of it) "How not to Become a Millennial" describes precisely how the boomers, as a generation, screwed over their own kid's generation, millennials. The three biggest factors is that 1) we have not had the decentralized economic growth of the 80's, since the 80's. 2) The rampant credentialism that made it necessary to have more and more educational credentials for any given employment. 3) the corresponding dramatic increase in the cost of university education that has even outpaced medical costs over the past 30 years.

I heard some years ago that one of the reasons for the dramatic increase in university education cost was that Bush 41 (Papa Bush) did "something" to exempt the universities from anti-trust legislation.


Those are good reasons, but also consider during boomer times since the 60's, the courts made it almost impossible to give aptitude tests, so now the college degree has become the new high school diploma to weed out the slackers.

And the universities have had a government given monopoly for over a century now, especially in fields like engineering. I believe there are certain qualifications a profession needs, but whether a university with a monopoly is the way to do it is open for debate. In some fields, a bright person with the right technical training and aptitude can do a pretty goood.

Blogger Kevin Pilsner April 09, 2021 4:56 PM  

Because many of us can only afford to make the minimum payment.

Blogger RedJack April 09, 2021 4:59 PM  

And by nursing home care, retirement communes, and end up in the states hand as the demand more.

Blogger Jason the Gentleman April 09, 2021 5:00 PM  

@rumpole5 - I think it is fairly safe to say that anyone that needs you to say "As VD has explained MULTIPLE times, these Boomer rants are not about outliers like you," probably IS exactly who Vox is talking about. If they can't see it in their own generation it is almost certainly because they themselves are numbered amongst them. You can't see the forest from within, but for one without, it is easy viewed.

Their history isn't admirable, their advice is not sound, and replicating their success has been made next to impossible thanks to the very steps they took to preclude such things.

Blogger RedJack April 09, 2021 5:02 PM  

20 years for college debt to be paid off or more.

My most recent outvof college hire had $500k of debt for a $60 k job
You want to know why the mills are going socialist? There you go

Blogger Yukichi Sensei April 09, 2021 5:08 PM  

Universities were alright until the Boomers started running them in the early 2000s. X10 increase since then is normal.

How else could you build pretty buildings and hire diverse administrators?

Then quit without passing knowledge on to make you feel special and "they are nothing without meeeeee"

Every good boomer is the exception that proves the rule.

Blogger Jack Amok April 09, 2021 5:08 PM  

Gee, ya think maybe being born into the one major country on the planet that wasn't devastated by WWII might have something to do with it? What's the saying? "Some people are born on third base and go through life thinking they hit a triple?"

I think it was the last Boomer thread that I used a variation of that: "Boomers: Born on third base, picked off by the hidden ball trick, claim they're in the dugout now because they hit a home run."

So, what made the Boomers so successful?

Their parents and grandparents destroying the industrial capacities of every other major nation.


So Boomers destroyed the US industrial capacity in turn.

Blogger T.L. Ciottoli April 09, 2021 5:09 PM  

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Blogger T.L. Ciottoli April 09, 2021 5:12 PM  

Geoffroi de Bohemonde wrote:Don't blame boomers, blame the globalists.

You ARE the globalists and the other non-globalist Boomers are the other ones passively pulling the levers and meekly paying their taxes and doing nothing as the psychopath globalists run roughshod over the world.

Boomers have, in one way or another, followed their programming to a 'T'. Now you all just need to FUCK OFF.

Blogger MrNiceguy April 09, 2021 5:34 PM  

When I saw the headline, I assumed it was referring to the article you linked.

Blogger MarkyMark April 09, 2021 5:50 PM  

As a tail-end Boomer, I have to comment here. Some demographers split the Boomer generation in to two halves. I was born in 1962, which means I was 7 when Woodstock happened. I wasn't part of the "Summer of Love" or any of that other stuff. Early Boomers would've been there, but not those of us who were born after 1960. I hear about all this stuff that the Boomer generation did, and I think it must be someone else because that was not part of my life experience at all.

Secondly, Hart-Cellar, Feminism, leaving the gold standard, etc. was all done by people OLDER than us! I'll lay out some FACTS below.

Let's look at modern Feminism, shall we? Let's look at some salient facts about Feminism's matron saints, its heroines. IOW, let's take a look at Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem. Can we not agree that they were the driving forces of modern Feminism during the 1960s and 1970s? Good. Betty Friedan was born in 1921, while Gloria Steinem was born in 1934. The last time I checked, both of those dates are DECADES before the beginning of the Boomer generation!

Let's look at the Hart-Cellar Act, which laid the groundwork for the Third World invasion we've seen since. The oldest and earliest Boomers (i.e. those born in 1946) would've been 19 years old then-19! In what alternative universe are there 19 year old Congressmen and Presidents?

Again, let's look at FACTS, shall we? Why don't we take a look at the cast of characters who gave us the Hart-Celler Act. Senator Philip Hart was born in 1912; Rep. Emmanuel Celler was born in 1888; and LBJ, who signed the act at the Statue of Liberty, was born in 1908. Again, in what alternate universe are these men Boomers? How could they be Boomers, when they were born DECADES before Boomers were even thought of?

Finally, let's look at Tricky Dick Nixon. He took us off the gold standard in 1971. He opened up China, thus laying the groundwork for them taking our manufacturing base. He gave us the EPA. He gave us a lot the ruined the nation. Can we agree on that? Guess when Tricky Dick was born? 1913, folks! How many decades before the beginning of the Baby Boom was that? It's over three decades for the mathematically challenged out there.

You can't blame Boomers for putting these things in. I know you all hate Boomers to the point of irrationality and inability to see facts, but the fact of the matter is is that Boomers did not bring in Feminism, Hart-Cellar, LBJ's Great Society, et al; their predecessors did that!

Now, did Boomers play a role in messing things up? There's no question about that. However, they didn't make the rules of the game; they only played by the rules that their predecessors created. Boomers didn't put in things like Feminism; they didn't open the doors to the Third Worlders who came in; they didn't take us off the gold standard; they didn't open up China; they didn't install many of the destructive mechanisms that wrecked the US.

I'll conclude with what @104 said above, as he's right.

"I remain convinced (as somebody who has a completely red-pilled brother born in 1964 and an NPR listening brother-in-law born in the late 1940's that this range is ridiculous), designed by some federal bureaucrat like Fauci.) Nobody born after 1960 has that much in common with the people that grew up watching Howdy Doody and the Mouseketeers. It's the ones born between 46 and 55ish that are the ones making the Medicare supplement commercials that say "with this virus situation, I want ALL THE BENEFITS I'M ENTITLED TO)"

I couldn't have said it better myself...

Blogger LockNessie April 09, 2021 6:08 PM  

So many boomers say they worked their way through college, what you dont understand is the types of jobs your generation worked in colledge now either requires a degree or gets taken by immigrants/minorities who can afford to earn less than a living wage because they live in shit-hole neighbourhoods that wouldn't be safe to live in.

You had the PRIVILEGE of being the sole provider for your family. This is not an option for 99% of GenX and millenials.

Younger generations will most likely stop whining when Boomers stop giving unsolicited advice that is completely irrelevent in the modern world.

Blogger Balam April 09, 2021 6:10 PM  

The most hideous part of the article is that in was written in Nov 2019. Things are probably even worse now considering information such as:

https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2021/february/older-workers-accounted-all-net-employment-growth

Title: Older Workers Accounted for All Net Employment Growth in Past 20 Years
-Written Feb 1, 2021
Somehow the title is true. So many jobs were lost by younger people that they have had no job growth. The Boomer driven Corona lockdowns killed every job but their own. There's a graph there which shows how much of a blip the lockdowns were for boomers while in was ruinous for every other demographic.

Boomers are a truly disgusting generation. First they abort tons of kids then they drive the rest to suicide, it's hard to imagine a demon setting things up more cruelly. In my daily life I watch Boomers trying to pick up and fuck 18 year olds to everyone's disgust. I am trying to find a house to rent (not buy, rent) and my competition is all Boomers who've decide to move again into all the decent affordable housing. Wtf are you doing renting a house near an industrial area?

Blogger Bigger Bunyip April 09, 2021 6:31 PM  

I can never get past boomers believing they have 'grit",

Blogger Eleven Oaks April 09, 2021 6:32 PM  

Grease is the word

Blogger Unknown April 09, 2021 6:32 PM  

34. The Last Roman April 09, 2021 12:31 PM
Isn't this situation mostly the fault of de-industrialization,


there's more industry than ever, it's only been stripped out of the US and relocated to 3rd world economies
...
by Jews following the principles Marx laid out in The Communist Manifesto, in which Karl claimed that international free trade would facilitate and crystallize Proletarian class consciousness leading to the genocide of the Bourgeoisie.


"Why is gen x always ignored?"

58. Harsh April 09, 2021 1:22 PM
We prefer it that way.


*nods*
being ignored by Narcissists is infinitely preferable to the alternative of having them pay attention to you.



109. Reader April 09, 2021 3:25 PM
The percent of Boomers at that time was probably greater than Gen-Xers, Millenials.


this is true, that part of these percentages play out the way they do because of the sheer weight of numbers that the Boomers have as well as their greater age compared to younger gens ( age tends to track with greater wealth ).

here are the generation pop numbers for 2019:
Boom (born 1946-1964) - 69.56
Gen X (born 1965-1980)- 65.17
Mille (born 1981-1996)- 72.12
Gen Z (born 1997-2012) 67.17

currently the population numbers are actually fairly well balanced
...
but even today, GenX remains the smallest.


Adults under 40 have been accumulating less and less wealth over the past 30 years, plummeting from owning 13% of the wealth in 1989 to less than 7% today.

why do i get the idea that this article is doing the Boomernomics thing of completely ignoring the percentage of Debt carried by each generation?

Blogger Teleport me off this rock April 09, 2021 6:41 PM  

Disagree. The "Boo hoo! Woe is me! Eeeevil boomers!" thing has its limits.
Seem to me the "work hard, save harder, invest prudently and regularly" notion is likely more weak among Gen X and Millennials.


Yes, "work hard" at your less-than-minimum wage-because-of-non-existent-tips bartender job because that's who's hiring, "save harder" by earning O.4% APY, which is damn close to paying the bank to hold your money, and "invest prudently and regularly" with the money you don't have in the rigged and manipulated wealth extraction machine called the stock "market".

Maybe you should use some of that money you so deserve for being awesome to buy a got-damn clue.

Blogger 5stonegames April 09, 2021 6:43 PM  

Azimus wrote:

Simple - economically we don't count. There's not enough of us because Roe v Wade killed off half our generation.


Abortion is the bête noire of the Religious Right but its only a small part of the cause of smaller families.

The Boomers are self centered compared to more communitarian previous generations and this lead to preferences for smaller families , more use of birth control and divorce which were greater contributors to a smaller cohort than abortion.

More importantly abortion has been in decline for a very long time, is now majority non White and the fertility rate is even lower, very possibly at an all time low.

Blogger Avalanche April 09, 2021 6:53 PM  

@30 "guess how many low-quality businesses that hire illegals they have to compete with"

Which is WHY whenever you call a contractor for work, inquire if their employees are all, at LEAST legal, and preferably native American stock. You'll get some recoiling in SJW horror -- but you'll ALSO find actual American contractors with ACTUAL American employees to do you work!

I won't hire someone using illegal or legal foreigners. Yes, it can be awkward, and sometime difficult to FIND an American company. I believe it's worth the extra work to find one and the cost to hire them.

If yer gonna quit using Google and Amazon -- why continue to use imported voters and help them provide for their LaRaza offspring?

Blogger Teleport me off this rock April 09, 2021 7:05 PM  

The three biggest factors is

Ctrl + F +"immi"

Blogger wahr01 April 09, 2021 7:08 PM  

Geoffroi de Bohemonde wrote:Don't blame boomers, blame the globalists

And who voted in the globalists?
Don't make me roll up a newspaper with headlines from the Reagan/Bush era.

Blogger Teleport me off this rock April 09, 2021 7:14 PM  

Boomers didn't put in things like Feminism; they didn't open the doors to the Third Worlders who came in; they didn't take us off the gold standard; they didn't open up China; they didn't install many of the destructive mechanisms that wrecked the US.

What did you do to stop any of these things? Nothing in 40+ years? So why are you here doing a victory lap for a crushing loss?

Blogger Bezzle April 09, 2021 7:15 PM  

@90. map
As late as 1968, tuition at, say, the University of Illinois was $350 a year, where that included full health insurance and the ability to take as many classes as you wanted, shortening the graduation period. You could pay for that tuition with a full-time summer job and still have enough money left over for a down-payment on a Ford Mustang. That summer job, btw, was "waiter," not "corporate lawyer."

The early Boomer's were in a position to secure things like homes, mortgages, an education, and union jobs out of high school before the rise of the mass immigration effect and the inflation created by the Hart-Cellar Act and removal of the gold standard. They were in a position to secure these upwardly mobile things when it was easier to do.


They were the last generation to enjoy working prior to the dollar-debasement of the "Nixon Shock", and the ruinous demolition of urban cores in the 70s due to post-Kennedy 1960s policies.

It's easy to hate them for being oblivious -- they were raised on television after all -- but it was their parents who enacted all this, and spoiled them rotten.

Query your nearest boomer (or any other age stripe) for their opinion on the Tax Reform Act of 1986 (which finally yoked American youth into the Social Security system, turned every employer into a de facto tax-collector, and essentially did away with the concept of legally "working for cash" in a non-shady way). They'll clutch their shriveled SSN retirement checks harder than a starving man his stimulus.

The last 35 years have amounted to slow suffocation in the coffin, and the whole system needs be chucked into the Atlantic.

Blogger Digger Variant April 09, 2021 7:37 PM  

You fail to account for demographic change. In 1990 the US was about 76% White. In 2025 the US will be about 57% White. Boomers were far more White at the median age milestone than Millenials will be at their median age milestone.

Given this difference alone it shouldn't be surprise to any red-pilled American to find a Whiter generation, better adapted to the ideals of the Anglo-American Enlightenment, to fair better financially than a more culturally diverse, more subversively indoctrinated, less empirically oriented generation.

As our ruling elites foster further invasion of our country and further subversion of our culture, I expect to see wealth distribution become more skewed toward Whites, as many non-Whites are incapable or unwilling to plan, invest, and defer gratification.

Your generational warfare strategy is folly. You gain nothing from it and you blind yourself to reality.

Blogger Azimus April 09, 2021 7:44 PM  

@ 5stonegames - It was just a throw-away statement, not a doctoral thesis. It escapes me though, what bearing current abortion ratss have on abortion rates 1973-1980?

Blogger qualitycontrol April 09, 2021 7:47 PM  

@132. MarkyMark
I don't know you, you probably have given this world wonderful children. worked hard all your life for your family and done none of the things people blame your generation for.

Yet.. part of the reason everyone hates your generation is the fact that you post these ridiculous wall of text defenses. A boomer born in 1960 obviously has little to nothing to do with anything before his coming of age. No one claims anything different. However a constant obnoxious occurrence that can be seen everywhere is the fact that boomers, like you, always think generational criticism is about them. Or how it doesn't fit perfectly.

Gen-Xers, Millennials or Zoomers generally don't feel the need to make generational criticism about themselves unless they exemplify these aspects.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 09, 2021 8:01 PM  

Abortion was 1/3 of GenX within ten years. It is now lower. It was at every income and class level. For whatever godforsaken reason, Boomers treated their incipient children like their own personal enemy that needed to die. They treat their dogs better- they get really emotional about putting dogs to sleep, or get worked up about letting their dogs live a natural lifespan.

It's not just "children in theory." It's women who had already had a pregnancy, given birth and were raising children- deciding that another child was 'too much.' There was not thought that other people, say.....maybe those other children, might want playmates and friends for life.

I happen to have tons of Boomer relatives with more divorces than children per each. I knew the older generations. I know the generations after that. No one else has d/c ratios quite like that. Or abortion/children ratios. A/c, D/c//// It's a simple metric.

I'd appreciate if the Boomers would just quit lecturing GenZyklon about their failings as racist, sexist, nationalist, poorly educated creatures. These are the kids who are going to bear the brunt of the coming instability. They need their hate to keep them warm, because, you know, the power stations are going to go out. No maintenance.

Blogger OneWingedShark April 09, 2021 8:04 PM  

Avalanche wrote:@30 "guess how many low-quality businesses that hire illegals they have to compete with"
Which is WHY whenever you call a contractor for work, inquire if their employees are all, at LEAST legal, and preferably native American stock.


Sure, that's what the family-friend did; recently retired though.


Geoffroi de Bohemonde wrote:Trades are still sorted by skill sets. Roofing is not one of those. You seem bent on despair. I had my kids late in life so they wouldn't be pussy millennials.
I'm not bent on despair; very few here are.
And you can bet your ass there's a difference between roofing companies that are American and those that hire illegals; at my place of employment, we're dealing with leaks from the work that the crew they hired didn't do correctly even now.

Blogger Pathfinderlight April 09, 2021 8:14 PM  

The average student now CANNOT work their way through college.

College is roughly 6 times as expensive and cost of living is roughly 3 times. To put this in perspective, you can put yourself through school if you get a job making twice minimum wage, live with your parents, attend a state school, and take 6 years to get the 4 year degree. THAT or debt is the college experience for the majority of Americans.

Overall, jobs now pay less and housing costs more. Both are the result of macro trends dictated by those in power, who now happen to be boomers. Boomers have held those positions for about 20 years and we've only seen the offshoring of jobs and the housing wealth extraction increase.

The boomer hate comes from the fact your people started/failed to stop these trends, then also tried holding subsequent generations to your standards, while not understanding why we don't measure up.

Blogger Pathfinderlight April 09, 2021 8:23 PM  

A good chunk of the people who have student loan debts will never be able to pay them back, so they only pay the minimum amount, spend all their money so it can't be taken in lawsuits, and plan to die before they pay back what others say they owe.

A lot of people seem to think that paying back student loan debt is the norm, but it really isn't.

Blogger Pathfinderlight April 09, 2021 8:26 PM  

Okay, boomer.

Blogger CynicalMan April 09, 2021 8:30 PM  

Changing life expectancy has to be taken into account when trying to determine when wealth transfer will occur between generations. The longer a generation lives the longer they will retain acquired wealth and the later a successive generation can expect to assume that wealth.

Blogger Pathfinderlight April 09, 2021 8:35 PM  

What part of God's work was destroying the economy over a cold? What reason was there to destroy our manufacturing base to ship jobs overseas?

May your heartlessness and cruelty be a cautionary tale for the next 20 generations.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 09, 2021 8:37 PM  

@xxxx0xxxx way to prove the point, pillow man

Blogger Brett baker April 09, 2021 8:46 PM  

+1

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 8:56 PM  

Re:Simple - economically we.
don't count. There's not.
enough of us because Roe
v. Wade killed off half our.
generation.

Makes my point. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 by 7 old men on the Supreme Court. (Hint: not Boomers) In 1973 the very oldest Boomers were 27 yoa. I was 22. Instead of indulging in 2 minute hate Boomer-hurl, You could be attracting and joining with the many red pilled Boomers, who agree that you were screwed, to reverse the multi generational bad policies of our common ancestors.

Blogger weka April 09, 2021 8:59 PM  

The silent generation and boomers bought in Abortion and contraception. Gen X and millenials are bringing in euthanisia.

It's Vampiric genocide all the way down.

Blogger Beardy Bear April 09, 2021 9:04 PM  

SCBen wrote:I was born in 1952 so I guess I'm a "boomer"! I don't get the outright HATE for a group of people who have succeeded doing what was ONCE considered NORMAL! ...

You are right, you don't get it at all.

I work 60 hours a week to own a trailer on land I rent doing trades that used to get paid enough to be middle class.

They won't give us loans. They won't promote us. Work no longer matters.

We don't hate you for what you have, we hate that you got it at our expense.

Your policies created this world, and now we're forced to live in it.

Blogger SacrificialLamb April 09, 2021 9:05 PM  

7. Ben Cohen

Why is gen x always ignored?


Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

41. kurt9

The boomers also benefited from the Reagan economic growth of the 80's and the carry over of such of the 90's.

Aaron Clary's book (yes, I know he is not the official author, but he still wrote most of it) "How not to Become a Millennial" describes precisely how the boomers, as a generation, screwed over their own kid's generation, millennials. The three biggest factors is that 1) we have not had the decentralized economic growth of the 80's, since the 80's. 2) The rampant credentialism that made it necessary to have more and more educational credentials for any given employment. 3) the corresponding dramatic increase in the cost of university education that has even outpaced medical costs over the past 30 years.


There are so many posts in this thread I want to respond to, but I'll just respond to this one.

Boomeristic credentialism needs to die in a fire. Boomers HATE training people, or providing apprenticeships for younger people. You often need credentials acquired from YEARS of neo-Marxist college indoctrination just to get some low-ranking job. It's much harder to switch careers now than it was 40 years ago.

I don't see this as being sustainable for much longer. This entire "Beast System" will implode within the lifetime of the Boomers who do not die from the "Jab of Death".

Blogger Angela April 09, 2021 9:09 PM  

To Carousel, boomers. To Carousel.

Blogger rumpole5 April 09, 2021 9:19 PM  

Tip: 1. If you actually have left over cash, invest it in an index fund with Vanguard, not a bank account.
2. Go into debt to acquire a hard value durable asset. Rural land in a "red" state for instance. If you can, use the homestead law to separate your debt from the asset. Example- Here in Florida you could purchase an inland lot for a mobile home for cash that you acquired by living off of your wife's credit cards in a higher pay "blue" state. Then you could move into the mobile home and declare bankruptcy. Florida law exempts homesteads from non mortgage debt. The "blue" state (((creditors))) will take a loss. Just please don't bring your "blue" state values with you. A critical mass of gunracked pickup trucks, with Dixie decals, are essential to civilized life.

Blogger Meanoldbasterd April 09, 2021 9:28 PM  

@across the world - suggestion: use their gravestones to pave roads, face up so their names will be lost to history once they are worn off.

Blogger Bettey Fontaneaux April 09, 2021 10:45 PM  

"So, what made the Boomers so successful? It's not like they were mooching off the younger generation when they were 35."

Start with continually lowering interest rates.

Blogger Uncompliant April 09, 2021 11:01 PM  

Paraphrasing; "I will never NOT hate Eve. Even though she's finally and long dead. I will do my part to ensure that her memory is hated by future generations. She took Paradise from us." Weak she was, but who seduced her?

Agreeing; "Boomers have, in one way or another, followed their programming to a 'T'" And so have later generations too.

Adding;

Much of the expressed hatred for boomers hinges on the argument that "they voted" or "they allowed" all the awful policy decisions that have us in ruin. With 2020 in mind, I have begun to doubt. How far back do the stolen elections go?

Even if the boomers did actually vote for "all of this," when did the brainwashing start and who was doing it? Set men against men, people against people and generation against generation is a very old strategy.

Blogger MonsoonBear April 09, 2021 11:11 PM  

It is possible to succeed in this mess. I've been mentoring younger men for over twenty years and have seen some of these guys increase their income five-fold over a five to eight year period.

This is the sort of thing we've needed more of. To this post I award the rare: Thanks, Boomer.

Blogger Bezzle April 09, 2021 11:15 PM  

@90. map
As late as 1968, tuition at, say, the University of Illinois was $350 a year, where that included full health insurance and the ability to take as many classes as you wanted, shortening the graduation period. You could pay for that tuition with a full-time summer job and still have enough money left over for a down-payment on a Ford Mustang. That summer job, btw, was "waiter," not "corporate lawyer."

The early Boomer's were in a position to secure things like homes, mortgages, an education, and union jobs out of high school before the rise of the mass immigration effect and the inflation created by the Hart-Cellar Act and removal of the gold standard. They were in a position to secure these upwardly mobile things when it was easier to do.



--They were the last generation to enjoy working prior to the dollar-debasement of the "Nixon Shock", and the ruinous demolition of urban cores in the 70s due to post-Kennedy 1960s policies.

It's easy to hate them for being oblivious -- they were raised on television after all -- but it was their parents who enacted all this, and spoiled them rotten.

Query your nearest boomer (or any other age stripe) for their opinion on the Tax Reform Act of 1986 (which finally yoked American youth into the Social Security system, turned every employer into a de facto tax-collector, and essentially did away with the concept of legally "working for cash" in a non-shady way). They'll clutch their shriveled SSN retirement checks harder than a starving man his stimulus.

The last 35 years have amounted to slow suffocation in the coffin, and the whole system needs be chucked into the Atlantic.

Blogger Uncompliant April 09, 2021 11:39 PM  

Adding; Why are boomers evil?

Were they born that way (nature)? Probably we should say no. They were born Americans.

Were they turned evil (nurture)? If so, why and how? Most are offering an economic structural answer: lots of post-war wealth and easy to accumulate via traditional Christian values and virtues. As the saying goes, hard times make strong men; comfort and ease make weak men. (As an aside, Vatican II needs to be added to marker stones along the path to collapse.)

Another answer is philosophical -- boomers were turned evil by the degenerative internal logic of liberalism.

Another answer offered is political: an elite hostile ruling caste [Marxist?] took advantage of a high-trust Christian election, economic and social system, took control and taught boomers to be evil. McCarthy was on the right path? There are other possible answers too.

Blogger tdcommenter April 09, 2021 11:42 PM  

@122

Griggs v. Duke Power Company set the stage for college credentialism replacing what was left of in-house training.

The big price increase for uni came from the Federal load subsidies & guarantees on the student loans. The pressure to go to college comes from the disinvestment in American industry & a tighter labor market.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 10, 2021 1:22 AM  

@126


How does somebody ring up a 500K debt without getting an MD or DO?

@129.

My parents weren't boomers and they insisted I get a degree. Anybody born after 1925 saw a college education as a path to success, in large part because of the GI Bill glamorizing and subsidizing a degree. It's only in the last 10-15 years that there is any question about the automatic value of a degree.

Like too many college kids, I drank to excess. My parents weren't responsible for that, because I'm sure I'd have done that if I hadn't gone to the school I did, or no school at all.

I was a legal adult, making (stupid) decisions. I own those decisions, not my parents.

Part of growing up is not blaming your parents for your decisions-even if they are boomers.



Grow up and own your own decisions.

Blogger Harambe April 10, 2021 2:06 AM  

Cheap labour isn't. Especially not in software dev where the Indians mess up so bad that we have to step in and fix it. At the rate you didn't want to pay the first time round.

Blogger Glen Sprigg April 10, 2021 6:25 AM  

rumpole5 wrote:Re:Simple - economically we.

don't count. There's not.

enough of us because Roe

v. Wade killed off half our.

generation.

Makes my point. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 by 7 old men on the Supreme Court. (Hint: not Boomers) In 1973 the very oldest Boomers were 27 yoa. I was 22. Instead of indulging in 2 minute hate Boomer-hurl, You could be attracting and joining with the many red pilled Boomers, who agree that you were screwed, to reverse the multi generational bad policies of our common ancestors.

And what did your generation do to reverse the ruling of those seven old men? Nothing; you just went on living the good life. It wasn't those seven old men that murdered one-third of their children; it was YOU and all the rest of your generation. And you allowed it all to happen, because kids cost too much to raise, and that would have meant less cruising and cocaine binges.

You didn't start the fire, but you did pour gasoline on it and used your children as kindling.

Blogger Meng Greenleaf April 10, 2021 7:26 AM  

My parents were 110% Boomer.

I will say this much, they were both abused. That colored their lives as much as the incessant brainwashing, drugs and their generation's 1960s zeitgeist.

Otherwise, yeah, my father walked into General Motors from HS, helped cause much of the outsourcing and eventual bankruptcy of the company, retired at 48 with full pension, and was 110% Boomer. Had marriages that ranged from 12 weeks to 12 years. Drank, whored around, lived the whole Boomer life. Even died in Florida without leaving a Will.

He is the Boomer people complain about when they say the word Boomer. I'm talking 110% Boomer. All of it. I lived that Boomer's kid life. The latchkey single-mother trailer park trash childhood. From bowls of sugar puffs and Bugs Bunny Saturday morning re-runs to Freddy Kruger 80s slashers. Metallica, the hair, the muscle car, the hot 80s girls from the wealthy private lakes - yup yup.

Remember when kids would grab your hat on a mid-winter morning and toss it to the next kid. Once I got the name of the game, I'd punch kid #3 in the nose. There was a weird sense of survival instinct in those small White trash trailer parks. I can't begin to imagine what life is like in those places now. I mean, we were the first.

It was still shameful to live on welfare. I remember that sense of shame.

IMO the three biggest nails in the coffin were the size of the Boomer generation, the passing of the immigration act (not repealed by the brainwashed Boomers or GenX, not that we have the numbers) and the constant outsourcing.

And then there's the dysgenesis. At least that much we won't blame on them :)

It's like being struck mid-bow by three missiles. The bow is shattered and the boat is sinking. It's going to sink. There's no way for it not to sink. The only question is if it's going to go down quickly or slowly. I'd hope for the former.

Blogger DannyDanger April 10, 2021 8:50 AM  

@rumpole5, resident boomer defense attorney

I appreciated your shift towards offering some constructive ideas to get out of the mess.

I think one thing the Boomers could do as an act of redemption in their later years is use some of that generational wealth to help counter the destruction of the nation.

Most Boomers are immune to cancel culture due to being retired and could easily become more vocal instruments against the woke crowd. They also could use their wealth to start and support local businesses and political movements with heritage America principles.

Sadly, beyond the few Boomers who do leave inheritance for their children, the rest are more interested in building up a nation for themselves (see: Villages) versus helping the future generations.

Imagine if a few Boomers sacrificed a few rounds of golf to publish and distribute a bulletin containing some of the ideas in this blog to their local community on the regular. Or used their downtime while others are working to pressure local politicians into removing ridiculous mask mandates etc.

It's never too late as long as you are still breathing, as the other man on the cross next to Jesus discovered.

Blogger Ranger April 10, 2021 10:02 AM  

@Rumpole5

Roe vs. Wade, horrible as it is, did not kill ANY baby; their mothers did. And as you've so helpfully pointed out, Boomers were the ones in that fertility window that killed all those babies. As later generations came to the fertility window, the abortion rates dropped.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 10, 2021 10:54 AM  

Supremes make all sorts of decisions- they say you can gay marry, you can get an abortion, you can do XYZ. That doesn't mean that, like, gays go out and 1/3 of them get gay married. 1/3 of GenX got aborted within ten years. Old men were not getting abortions. Boomer women were. Boomer women are more licentious than gay men, when it comes to social degeneration. That's hard to do and somehow they still managed it.

In comparison, say, getting a tattoo. It's regional and age based. About half the people in my town under the age of 40 have a tattoo. The people over forty do not have tattoos, but they don't mind the tattoos, and have to explain why they do not have a tattoo, rather than why they do have a tattoo. Can you imagine "I'm not against heroin, but it's not right for me?" "I'm not against others drinking, but it's not right for me." ? That's social pressure.

The people in one small town right next to this one, under age 25, do not have tattoos, no matter what socioeconomic zone they are in. "It's like putting a bumper sticker on a Porsche." as they wave their hands down their perfect bodies. The city- it varies. Social pressure works for conformity for most people. Why can't it be good social pressure?

However, one city over, only trashy, criminal people get tattoos. Visitors from that city are stressed out just walking around- so many tattoos on people at the city park- is it dangerous to be out in public? Well, in their city,the answer would be yes- that's a biker convention. In this city, that's a bunch of white collar people trying to get a tan while they walk their dog.

Abortion could be like that- something only trashy, criminal losers get. Somehow, adoption got that stigma- only trashy girls gave their babies away. Maybe they were trashy- but the statistics show that it's usually higher end income girls from good families that give their children up to better lives. They know, in hard numbers, what a good life looks like for a child. Then they tend to feel grief and guilt for the rest of their lives, which is a harsh burden.

I'm not even on the "let's change the laws"- I'm for social pressure.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 10, 2021 10:56 AM  

Meng, I got bounced to grandparents with some serious healthy diet food issues. I didn't get sugary cereal until I was over 18. My brother and I went to the grocery store on one of my first paychecks and bought cereal by the toys inside the box.

Does it help to know you had something that someone else wanted?

Blogger VD April 10, 2021 11:11 AM  

Instead of indulging in 2 minute hate Boomer-hurl, You could be attracting and joining with the many red pilled Boomers, who agree that you were screwed, to reverse the multi generational bad policies of our common ancestors.

First, those who hate Boomers will not fall for their lies or make the mistake of trying to follow their horrible advice.

Second, God instructs us to hate the wicked, and the Boomers are one of the wickedest generations in human history. It is good and right to hate the Boomers.

Blogger Uncompliant April 10, 2021 12:55 PM  

"... Boomers are one of the wickedest generations in human history."

Yes, but why and how? Why are boomer so wicked and how did they get that way?

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 10, 2021 1:05 PM  

Why does everyone wave their hands helplessly in the face of Griggs vs Duke Power? Everything else gets litigated repeatedly. Why does that one decision have such magical power that it can never be reversed?

Blogger Bezzle April 10, 2021 1:35 PM  

"reverse the policies" is code-speak for "vote harder next time, pal".

Blogger OneWingedShark April 10, 2021 2:10 PM  

Pathfinderlight wrote:Boomers have held those positions for about 20 years and we've only seen the offshoring of jobs and the housing wealth extraction increase.
Thirty to thirty-five years, not 20.

Pathfinderlight wrote:What part of God's work was destroying the economy over a cold? What reason was there to destroy our manufacturing base to ship jobs overseas?
May your heartlessness and cruelty be a cautionary tale for the next 20 generations.

I believe it's because they view themselves as gods, and an loss on their 401k is an attack on themselves — so, of course it was right and just (to their worldview) to put out-of-business all the small businesses and force everyone to the Amazons and Wal-marts to force record profits and boosted 401ks.

weka wrote:The silent generation and boomers bought in Abortion and contraception. Gen X and millenials are bringing in euthanisia.
You're a fucking retard if you think that Millennials want the Boomers dead — that's their parents/grandparents & aunts/uncles — unlike the Boomer, most Millennials aren't the sort that would sell out family for a few more dollars.

That's what makes the Boomer-fueled shutdowns so utterly despicable on the generational-moral level: had everything remained open the Millennials would have taken care of their elders as best they could, but as-is we see the Boomers rejoicing in the stock-market and denigrating any Millennial who dares criticize the shutdowns: after-all, how dare they think that the reaction was overblown! They need to bow down before Boomer authority and expertise!

Beardy Bear wrote:They won't give us loans. They won't promote us. Work no longer matters.
We don't hate you for what you have, we hate that you got it at our expense.
Your policies created this world, and now we're forced to live in it.

This.

Blogger DrivingDissent April 10, 2021 3:49 PM  

My parents gloating after getting the vaccine was the final straw, not oblivious to the sacrifices made but celebrating them..The cost others will pay for their last remaining years is an achievement to boomers a generational dupers delight.. They took pleasure at having once again made others pay.

Blogger papabear April 10, 2021 5:28 PM  

@145 Try harder.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 10, 2021 5:40 PM  

@168

"Were they born that way (nature)? Probably we should say no. They were born Americans."

People miss the obvious. Boomers, real Boomers (generally born 46-55, anybody born in the late 50's or 60's wasn't part of Woodstock or Haight-Ashbury, they were GENERALLY yuppies, not hippies) had parents who experienced FDR and his Munchausen syndrome by proxy (MSP) economic meddling known as The Great Depression and World War II, but who thought of the man as a demigod.

Their parents (born generally 1910-1935ish) naturally were relieved when it was perceived that a decade and a half of peril and privation was thought to be ended when Japan surrendered and vowed that their children shouldn't never have to face any unpleasantness.

Somewhere along the line they imbued in them a sense that they were unique and special, and born not to experience war and want. Boomers then somewhere concocted the idea they were were going to be the architects, not the recipients of perpetual peace and prosperity.

The last Boomer was an outlier born in 1961 named Barack Obama and that was because what little parenting he received came from his maternal grandparents, born 1918 and 1922. Unlike others born after 1960, he didn't get the message that prosperity wasn't permanent because he never faced the gas crisis or the Carter years as a job seeker, and narcosis was a big part of his life.

Even though he was speaking to a constituency mostly of Gen-Xers and Millennials when he uttered his famous phrase "we are the ones we've been waiting for" that attitude is pure Boomer-ponderously self important and morally smug to the point of messianic triumphalism.

Of course Boomerism is alive and well in Millennials, who learned the slogan driven libertinism of their Boomer parents. They took "free love" and made it "love is love". Boomers abused and trivialized marriage, the millennials contemned and counterfeited it. Boomers had abortions, millennials "shout your abortion". Boomers grasped early extravagant pensions, millennials want free healthcare and college. Boomers believed in "Duck and Cover", millennials believe in masks.

The difference between the peacenik Boomer and the climate change fanatic millennial is nil.

The apple not only didn't fall far, it rolled down the trunk.




Blogger The Observer April 10, 2021 5:46 PM  

Why does everyone wave their hands helplessly in the face of Griggs vs Duke Power? Everything else gets litigated repeatedly. Why does that one decision have such magical power that it can never be reversed?

Because it runs on the same principle as forcing people to vote repeatedly on an issue until they get the decision that they want, and then it never comes up for vote again.

Blogger Jack Amok April 10, 2021 6:53 PM  

Makes my point. Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 by 7 old men on the Supreme Court. (Hint: not Boomers) In 1973 the very oldest Boomers were 27 yoa. I was 22.

Good grief, Boomer's dumber than a feminist. Feminists like to point out old men don't have abortions, young women do. Feminists are dumb because they think this somehow makes young women more qualified to make decisions on the subject, but at least they're smart enough to know the old men aren't the ones going to the abortion clinics. Boomer doesn't even realize that.

And as Ranger pointed out, Boomers were the generation that aborted their babies at by far the highest rates.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 10, 2021 8:02 PM  

Moral equivalence does not work. How many Mils had abortion? Every last one of them that had an abortion apparently did it in public, but if you read the comments, the rest of the Mils are horrified by this tiny group of attention-seekers. Abortion is being not-normalized, by Millenials and younger. That's the tiny, criminal, skanky population, not the general population. Boomers, it was everyone, as far as I can tell. Planned Parenthood can't even find trained social executives to be the hot, young, sexy face of deadbabyInc, without resorting to immigrants.

Millenials aren't getting married because they cannot afford it. They want it. They cannot afford it. I've listened to them. The sadness and resigned quality is horrifying. Can you imagine facing down the years alone?





Blogger JamesB.BKK April 11, 2021 5:44 AM  

Could be a reflection that Gen Xers and Millennials are less materialistic than the other cohort.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 11, 2021 10:41 AM  

rumpole5 wrote:Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 by 7 old men on the Supreme Court. (Hint: not Boomers) In 1973 the very oldest Boomers were 27 yoa.
The Greatest and Silent Generations had aged out of pregnancy, weren't getting abortions. Gen X was too young. The Boomer Generation jumped on the abortion bandwagon, and killed a third or more of the next generation. They didn't make the R v. W ruling, but they sacrificed their children to it, literally.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 11, 2021 10:43 AM  

SacrificialLamb wrote:Boomeristic credentialism needs to die in a fire.
...
I don't see this as being sustainable for much longer. This entire "Beast System" will implode within the lifetime of the Boomers who do not die from the "Jab of Death".

From your keyboard to God's screen. Even where credentials are appropriate, a university degree is almost never an appropriate credential.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 11, 2021 10:51 AM  

Ariadne Umbrella wrote:Why does everyone wave their hands helplessly in the face of Griggs vs Duke Power? Everything else gets litigated repeatedly. Why does that one decision have such magical power that it can never be reversed?
Like R v. Wade, it serves the narrative. The courts are bent on evil and will never undo evil.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 11, 2021 10:52 AM  

JamesB.BKK wrote:Could be a reflection that Gen Xers and Millennials are less materialistic than the other cohort.
If so, it's because they make virtue out of necessity.

Blogger 5stonegames April 12, 2021 3:02 AM  

Azimus wrote:@ 5stonegames - It was just a throw-away statement, not a doctoral thesis. It escapes me though, what bearing current abortion ratss have on abortion rates 1973-1980?

Not much only to say the abortion war was at least a partial victory and its effects are basically nil.

Ominous Cowherd wrote:rumpole5 wrote:Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 by 7 old men on the Supreme Court. (Hint: not Boomers) In 1973 the very oldest Boomers were 27 yoa.

The Greatest and Silent Generations had aged out of pregnancy, weren't getting abortions. Gen X was too young. The Boomer Generation jumped on the abortion bandwagon, and killed a third or more of the next generation. They didn't make the R v. W ruling, but they sacrificed their children to it, literally.


Not really so.

Sterilization and "The Pill" were responsible for 12x as many babies not being born as abortion and rhythm method, IUD, diaphragms, condoms and non reproductive acts even more.

Feel free to make a moral argument against abortion, there are plenty but its not the main cause of a smaller generational cohort. It was a social shift.

Now if the Right were to have control over immigration (repatriation with respect) and cultural moral suasion , the problem will reverse itself in historically fairly short time.

Given differential fertility rates rough secularists 1 or none, average folk 2 , highly religious 3 ultra religious 5+ in a few generations the US would have a vastly more Christian population in a few generations and if current trends hold and they won't, be majority Amish in less time than from now from the War of 1812




Blogger Roger April 12, 2021 5:58 PM  

The percentages of wealth by group at certain ages is not surprising. We boomers are our work. We work. I plan on starting to think about retirement at 74. Think, not actually do. The millennial will quit a job to go on vacation, one that they are entitled to. Time off is very important to them. I go on vacation because I want to not because I deserve it. Go look in the mirror if you do not like where you stand by whatever measure you are using. They are your choices as it is your life.

Blogger thechortling April 12, 2021 10:05 PM  

The UniBoomer revealed. yeah, yeah, he's 4 years too young... but he's a poliltician rules of finger-in-wind-and-orifices apply: https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/04-dam-absolute-li-1080-1050x750.jpg

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 12, 2021 11:38 PM  

I'm not making a moral argument against abortion. I am saying that Boomer women went all in on killing off their children at a level you don't see outside of wartime and famine, or in occupied territory. No other generation in American history has behaved in such a relentlessly violent and depraved fashion- and called it good, moral and responsible.

I don't think you understand- I've stood there while grandparents and parents talked about the debate whether or not to abort me- ME! Personally, in front of me! They casually talk about the one later down the line that actually did get sliced out. That one was inconvenient. I have a brother and a sister. You don't think we wouldn't like more of us? I have four kids- they all take it for granted that there are four of them- what if I decided to ice out one of them? I think they'd think I was a monster.

How many people have their possible murderers casually talking about whether to kill them or not, right in front of them. That's usually a bad scene in a horror movie. This was a family reunion, summer-time, or on the phone. Not one of them thought I might have an opinion on the subject, even when I was up, walking around, speaking, voting, little things like that.

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel April 13, 2021 1:51 AM  

@188

"Millenials aren't getting married because they cannot afford it. They want it. They cannot afford it. I've listened to them. The sadness and resigned quality is horrifying. Can you imagine facing down the years alone?"

See my example in post 104. Any couple that can afford to cut loose a NYC income and travel the country could legalize their living arrangement with a trip to the courthouse. I have personally watched numerous millennial couples shack up, so you are dead wrong about millennials wanting to get married but not being able to do it. They have no problem cohabitating, buying real estate together, even reproducing but they just don't wed-when they aren't going from one itinerant partner to another.

It's ignorance and fear. They are ignorant of the possibility of a happy stable marriage-and fearful of the divorces they see. They are scandalized by a society where marriage has been "a light and transient" affair for decades.

Males in particular are at risk, knowing all that feminist blather about equality dissipates as soon there's a "family court" proceeding and women initiate 70% of divorces-and that's not even counting all of the "baggage" brought by prior relationships that impede the development of a relationship. I know young males who are perturbed if the woman doesn't put out right away and then wonder if she's a trollip when she does.

@197

"I'm not making a moral argument against abortion."

That's too bad because you just provided one of the best arguments I've seen. Even if kids aren't treated to brain dead parents or grandparents, a lot must harbor suspicions that their conception was inconvenient or unexpected, and their loving parents might have been their executioners. If I was in your shoes, I'd tell those people to remember this when you are "struggling" with the decision about prolonging their life at the end, since they struggled with allowing you to live at the beginning.

And make no mistake, people die in nursing homes every day because nobody is there to advocate for them. When a fall sent my grandmother to the nursing home, and her dementia accelerated, she began to exhibit a common symptom, a failure to eat. After she dramatically lost 30 pounds in six weeks, I interrogated the nurse in charge. She said "well, we could have a feeding tube, but that would merely prolong the inevitable". I knew I was watching the death panel in operation. My position was food is not extraordinary care, it's a requirement for life and you provide it in the form a patient requires it. When you are in that position, it helps to have a really determined relative.

A lot of people who think they are pet parents are going to die wailing and gnashing their teeth for the children and grandchildren they never had.





Blogger Ariadne Umbrella April 13, 2021 9:10 PM  

Millenials are not getting married. They live together, sometimes. They have children, sometimes. But they literally think that they cannot afford to get married, like, the actual event. It's a $28,000 production, as far as they know, only done by established older people, or upper class girls with millionaire parents. Or they fear divorce. I knew of one couple that lived with the girls' parents, had children, the guy worked with the father at some garage, and the guy was afraid to marry her- "what if he met someone else?"

And, where on earth in what I said did you get that I still talk to these people? I talked to them when I was at their mercy. Right now, I am at the mercy of a different section of the family, and "the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel" isn't just a meme for a book title. The one child who wasn't under the possible guillotine is the only one who talks to them. I talk to the wing that was interested in me staying alive. There's a lot to be said for patriarchy, even if it oppresses women into doing the right thing.

That's a lot of why I'm not about the laws. There was the generation that got abortions when abortion was legalized in the 1970s, and a lot of Boomer women really jumped on that surgical procedure. Abortion is still legal, and right now, it's mostly immigrant, poor and 13/50s, all of whom are sort of homicidal anyway. It's not core American women.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd April 14, 2021 8:57 AM  

5stonegames wrote:Sterilization and "The Pill" were responsible for 12x as many babies not being born as abortion and rhythm method, IUD, diaphragms, condoms and non reproductive acts even more.
All-all same-same. These are all symptoms of satanic hatred of life. They chose to destroy their children and their future for convenience, and career, and cool vacations.

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