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Monday, May 24, 2021

China warns Australia

 It appears China is beginning to warn off the second-tier players in what looks rather like preparation for a move on Taiwan:

Australia's military is 'weak,' 'insignificant' and will be the 'first hit' in any potential conflict over Taiwan, Chinese propagandists have warned.

The chilling message in the Communist Party mouthpiece, the Global Times, comes as Australian naval forces completed war game exercises with the US, France and Japan held between May 11 and 17 in the East China Sea.

The first ever training drill between the four nations called Exercise Jeanne d'Arc 21 - or ARC21 - practiced amphibious assaults, urban warfare and anti-aircraft defence - and was met with fury by Beijing.

'The People's Liberation Army doesn't even need to make pointed responses to the joint drill since it's insignificant militarily,' the article said. 'Australia's military is too weak to be a worthy opponent of China, and if it dares to interfere in a military conflict for example in the Taiwan Straits, its forces will be among the first to be hit. Australia must not think it can hide from China if it provokes. Australia is within range of China's conventional warhead-equipped DF-26 intermediate-range ballistic missile.'

Over the past year China has slapped more than $20billion worth of arbitrary trade bans and tariffs on Australian exports as an apparent punishment for calling for an independent inquiry into the origins of the Covid-19 pandemic - which first appeared in Wuhan in 2019.

Tensions were further strained last month when various figures including the likes of Defence Minister Peter Dutton, Former Defence Minister Christopher Pyne and Home Affairs secretary Michael Pezzullo, all suggested the 'drums of war' in the region are getting louder.

Just in case the warning hasn't been received, The Global Times has underlined the point in an interview with an Australian academic who is an expert on Sino-Australian relations:

Recently, the Morrison government has been constantly commenting on the possibility of Australian military engagement in a future US-China war over Taiwan. However, this was met with harsh criticism from former prime minister Kevin Rudd and numerous scholars. Is the Morrison government clear about the consequences of war? Why is Canberra standing close by Washington to confront China instead of striking a balance between the two like most other countries do? Global Times (GT) reporter Wang Wenwen talked to James Laurenceson (Laurenceson), director of the Australia-China Relations Institute, University of Technology Sydney, over these issues.

GT: How is the Morrison government's hype of war dangerous and damaging? Do you think the hawkish officials from the Morrison government are clearly aware of the consequences of a military clash with China to Australia? Or is talking about war just an easy gesture to make for political expediency?

Laurenceson: Former prime minister Rudd's criticism of war talk was mostly because he regarded it as being deployed by members of the current Morrison government for domestic political gain. But in the process, the chest-thumping rhetoric further damages Australia's already dysfunctional relationship with China, nor did it inform the Australian public just how catastrophic the costs of such a war would be. 

This political tactic of hyping an external "threat" to induce a "rallying around the flag" effect occurs in other countries too, including China and the US. That said, the risk of a kinetic conflict over Taiwan has increased compared with, say, five years ago. This means it is appropriate for sober-minded analysis and planning within the Australian government's Department of Defence, and in communicating to the public just what is at stake in terms of Australia's national interests and values. But the priority must be avoiding a military conflict, not hyping the risk for domestic political gain, or regarding it as inevitable and now starting to treat China as a de-facto enemy. China is far more a friend to Australia than an enemy.   

GT: Most analysts would not deny that Washington can no longer expect a quick and easy victory in a war with China in the Western Pacific. Why has Australia under Morrison been boasting following the US and taking the risk?

Laurenceson: Within the Australian government, there is a significant gap between the key decision-makers and those more on the fringe. The reported hawkish comments by Minister for Defence, Peter Dutton, for example, were more qualified when you read the full transcript of what he said rather than just the version presented in the headlines...

GT: Although Australia and the US are allies, how much confidence do Australia's political and strategic circles have toward the actual support and protection Washington will (or can) offer to Australia?

Laurenceson: I think there is a high degree of confidence within political and strategic circles that the US would support Australia in a military conflict. Of course, there are a lot of scenarios between where things are now and one where Australia is being attacked in a military conflict. And along that spectrum, my view is that Australia should be realistic and not be "doe-eyed" about what it can expect from America.

Australia would be insane to place any trust whatsoever in the increasingly incomptent US military, which at this point would be more likely to send them a transgender dance troupe to twerk defiance at the Chinese than risk the chance that an aircraft carrier group would end up on the bottom of the Western Pacific. South Korea appears to understand this, as it certainly doesn't want any part of the Taiwan question.

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67 Comments:

Blogger Mr.MantraMan May 24, 2021 8:22 AM  

With the confirmation of Wuhan Inst. - Fauci HIH collaboration on SARS viruses how much leverage if any does the ChinCom government exert if any on the American Deep State and the pretend president's gang? Months ago the ChinCom government warned Australia off of investigation of the Coof's origination but now leaks and admissions of culpability are running rampant.

It looks to me like the Deep Staters and the political hacks of the establishment have a Chinese hand up their backside. Will the Deep State offer only token resistance to a ChinCom take over of Taiwan in exchange for a whitewash on Covid?

Blogger Tee Stoney May 24, 2021 8:24 AM  

China is now what Nazi Germany was in the 1930s. And just like then, feckless dithering only encourages them. Not to mention so many Western elites being such soulless whores.

Blogger Shimshon May 24, 2021 8:30 AM  

"The first ever training drill between the four nations called Exercise Jeanne d'Arc 21 - or ARC21 - practiced amphibious assaults, urban warfare and anti-aircraft defence - and was met with fury by Beijing."

They should have practiced rescue operations from an accidental collision with a fishing vessel or something like that. That's what the military is reduced to and really needs training on, since expecting them to pilot their boats without doing such is too much today.

Blogger Unknown May 24, 2021 8:33 AM  

Australia just established a US Marine base... as the Marine commandant decided to get rid of all his tanks, most of his tube arty, and half his combat aircraft.

They appear to have picked the wrong side.

The Commandant's actions only make sense if warfare itself has completely changed in the last 30 years and only he realized it, or if he wants the US to lose to China.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 24, 2021 8:33 AM  

The USA has broken every treaty from those with the natives all the way up to the Constitution itself.
It would be folly to rely on it now.

BTW we have females running things where still only men have to register for the draft. Now would be the time for all good white men to avoid serving this shitshow.

Blogger pyrrhus May 24, 2021 8:34 AM  

It is invariably ruinous for small nations to get involved in major power wars...yet they still do it...

Blogger ZhukovG May 24, 2021 8:35 AM  

A couple articles on Unz have shown comparisons between recruiting videos for the Russian, Chinese and US Armies.

The Russian, full of Alpha Masculinity. The Chinese video was so good by time it was over, I wanted to jump up and sing 'The East is Red'.

The American, full of feminine narcissism and the virtues of having two mommies.

Australia needs to explore the virtues of a neutral and isolationist foreign policy.

Blogger Newscaper312 May 24, 2021 8:44 AM  

Letting advanced semiconductor chip fab disappear from the US is sure looking smart, you bow tie assholes. "Its fine, Taiwan isnt communist!"

That leaves South Korea but nothing makes me confident that In 20 years they wont be part of a 21st century Greater East Asia Co-prosperity Sphere, this time run by China. Then an embargo on selling us critical chips.

Blogger Catchthefox May 24, 2021 8:45 AM  

how does it feel to live so close to the battle of Cannes that you can smell it?

Blogger Grandpa Lampshade May 24, 2021 8:56 AM  

China, Russia and to a lesser extent Iran are the last remaining nationalist nations that stand in the way of their wet dream of a world government great reset.
This is what all of this boils down to.

Blogger Brett baker May 24, 2021 9:05 AM  

For fighting on Pacific islands, the Commandant's ideas make sense. For fighting on the mainland, not so much.

Blogger Cursed Melbournite May 24, 2021 9:06 AM  

I live in Melbourne, my suburb is 20%-30% Han Chinese already, and climbing fast. They're already here. We already lost.

Blogger LZ May 24, 2021 9:11 AM  

South Korea is a China ally because their economy is more dependent on China now.

The purpose of a conflict is to get hit, which gives a free hand in response. In this case, it would be an economic boycott similar to the ones the Soviets faced. The US would accidentally hit all of Taiwan's chip factories with it's missile strikes during the brief battle to defend Taiwan.

Blogger Harambe May 24, 2021 9:23 AM  

If I were president of the US, I'd be on a plane to Russia to sweet talk Putin and making it really easy to do business with America and Europe and basically I won't leave until we're personal best friends. And ask him to pretty please take our side against China.

But hey, that would be what Trump would do and he was icky.

Blogger Doktor Jeep May 24, 2021 9:24 AM  

"I live in Melbourne, my suburb is 20%-30% Han Chinese already, and climbing fast. They're already here. We already lost."

If it comes to kinetic conflict, we might at least get a lesson on the necessity of "keep them out".

Blogger glueballs May 24, 2021 9:56 AM  

About twenty years ago, I half-drunkenly stumbled into a roped-off great hall in the Forbidden City while I was looking for a place to relieve myself. I had just crushed a few beers together with a spicey squid-on-a-stick nearby on what turned out to be China’s army-navy day. Multiple tens of soldiers turned in unison to focus sinister sneers on me. I squinted at the large screen TV these trained killers were just viewing. On it was a propaganda movie clip of Chinese armed forces mowing down enemies that appeared to be US Marines attempting to land on Formosa Island as large aircraft carriers sank in the background under missile barrage. My audience jeered as I wandered away to micturate in an outside back alley trench that adjudging by its aroma had clearly been used for my purpose before. Even in a fuzzy mindset, I realized the PLA really does intend to retake Taiwan and snuff out anybody who stands in their way. The Chinese are going to invade Taiwan unless the Taiwanese capitulate quietly. Eventually, China will absorb Australia and New Zealand as well and it is my bet the US will acquiesce by that time. How the Japanese and Koreans dance with their gigantic neighbor in our absence I still have no idea.

Blogger Joeplanet May 24, 2021 9:56 AM  

LZ had a good point. I would wire all the chip factories for spectacular demolition. If china invades, those facilities become useless and maybe even radioactive craters.

Blogger Sean Carnegie May 24, 2021 10:11 AM  

Cursed Melbournite wrote:I live in Melbourne, my suburb is 20%-30% Han Chinese already, and climbing fast. They're already here. We already lost.

Having already established a beachhead at Richmond and logistics depots in Calgary and Scarborough, Ontario, Canada has already succumbed without having ever fired a shot.

Blogger bw May 24, 2021 10:13 AM  

twerk defiance at the Chinese

..and here we are, 2021

At least the juice got the fem haircuts right finally

Blogger bw May 24, 2021 10:21 AM  

10. Grandpa LampshadeMay 24, 2021 8:56 AM
China, Russia and to a lesser extent Iran are the last remaining nationalist nations that stand in the way of their wet dream of a world government great reset.
This is what all of this boils down to.


Nah. This is the movie script version.
They looted Russia twice so far.
Mao was literally a Yale boy experiment.
Ain't Comfortable.
But that's what this all boils down to my friend.

Blogger English Tom May 24, 2021 10:29 AM  

@Grandpa Lampshade

You may be right about China, Russia and Iran. All I can think is that all 3 countries have gone along with the covid hoax. If they were really nationalist and in charge of their own affairs, wouldn't they be more likely to call it out as a Western fake manoeuvre?
Also, most probably don't know this, but Rouhani and Iran's foreign minister both studied in the UK for years.

This coming world war will be like most wars before it, a bankers war. And the outcome was decided years ago.

Blogger English Tom May 24, 2021 10:33 AM  

It wont just be Taiwan the chinks go after. I'm thinking Malaysia as well so they can secure the Malacca straits, making it truly an Indo-Pacific conflict.

Blogger pyrrhus May 24, 2021 10:50 AM  

@12. Yes, if Australia really wanted to do something meaningful, it would expel the Chinese residents...But that wouldn't benefit the MIC....

Blogger RadixMalorum May 24, 2021 10:58 AM  

English Tom wrote:@Grandpa Lampshade

You may be right about China, Russia and Iran. All I can think is that all 3 countries have gone along with the covid hoax. If they were really nationalist and in charge of their own affairs, wouldn't they be more likely to call it out as a Western fake manoeuvre?


All that would happen is it would be dismissed as Chinese/Russian propaganda in the (((western media))) and the sheeple will believe it.

People are almost always convinced by rhetoric instead of dialectic.

Blogger Newscaper312 May 24, 2021 11:11 AM  

@English Tom

It's even easier than that.
Singapore is ruled by fellow ethnic Chinese.
They could "annex" it on that basis, similar to the Anschluss where Hitler scooped up Austria.

Blogger Johnny May 24, 2021 11:13 AM  

China is a relatively land locked country. Siberia to the north, ocean to the east and the Himalayas to the west. And there is a heavily forested hill country between them and Southeast Asia. That may account for why China hasn't expanded despite being the strongest power in the region for more or less forever. Perhaps modern transportation methods change all that the the "Yellow Peril" preached a hundred years ago will become a reality.

Meanwhile our western democracies are tied up with obscure moral agendas, and a political class, that if not bought off, is obsessed with internal politics.

Blogger Shane Bradman May 24, 2021 11:19 AM  

If Australia declares war on China I will immediately renounce my citizenship and leave the country.

Blogger RadixMalorum May 24, 2021 11:20 AM  

glueballs wrote:Eventually, China will absorb Australia and New Zealand as well and it is my bet the US will acquiesce by that time. How the Japanese and Koreans dance with their gigantic neighbor in our absence I still have no idea.

China's not going to absorb Australia and NZ. Taiwan is different because it's a Chinese territory left over from a civil war that never ended populated by an entirely Han Chinese population. Integration wouldn't be a major problem after annexation.

Australia and NZ on the other hand are Anglo nations and integration would be impossible unless the populations were replaced and the Han currently don't have the birth rates to be able to do that since Han birth rates are lower than even western whites at the moment.

China will probably get deals to build some ports which they will lease for 100 years or so in NZ and Australia while having moderate lobbying power and that will be the extent of China's influence in those nations.

Blogger RadixMalorum May 24, 2021 11:35 AM  

Johnny wrote:China is a relatively land locked country. Siberia to the north, ocean to the east and the Himalayas to the west. And there is a heavily forested hill country between them and Southeast Asia. That may account for why China hasn't expanded despite being the strongest power in the region for more or less forever. Perhaps modern transportation methods change all that the the "Yellow Peril" preached a hundred years ago will become a reality.

Meanwhile our western democracies are tied up with obscure moral agendas, and a political class, that if not bought off, is obsessed with internal politics.


Thousands of years of sedentary civilization isn't going to change overnight easily just because there's new technology. China during the Ming Dynasty had the largest, most advanced fleet on the planet and could've easily colonized and controlled the Indo-pacific but it didn't.

Blogger stevev May 24, 2021 11:38 AM  

I've been told by a site architect for semiconductor fabs that the companies that build them don't want people to know the degree of destruction which would ensue if certain chemical pipes were to be sundered and their contents allowed to intermix.
No need for nukes. Scale up elemental sodium mixing in water a thousand-fold, and you get the idea.

Blogger Chill Penguin May 24, 2021 12:30 PM  

we used to make fun of China for their eunuchs in government, now we have a eunuch cabinet minister and a catamite cabinet minister

Blogger Mr_Splodey_Head May 24, 2021 12:56 PM  

https://news.usni.org/2020/12/03/massive-2021-u-s-naval-drills-will-include-multiple-carriers-and-amphibious-ready-groups

Blogger The Pitchfork Rebel May 24, 2021 1:02 PM  

If you want to understand the technical ascent of China, remember this. Until about 25 years ago, you could still find Class QJ STEAM locomotives (a design based on a 1920 era Soviet design, not the state of the art "superpower" locomotives built in the U.S. from 1925-1950).

They are working hard to catch up. An acquaintance at my gym just got a job as an English instructor for Chinese youth, via internet. When I asked about the time difference, he said they are quite willing to have classes well outside normal hours.

He's in his 20's. No doubt he's training his future masters.

Blogger Eugenius BEar May 24, 2021 1:25 PM  

I can confirm that fear.

Blogger The Harlequin Romance of Neutron Bombs May 24, 2021 1:34 PM  

It should be recognized by all that once Chinese boots stand on Formosa, Taiwan is lost. Thus, the battle for Taiwan will be an air/sea (and perhaps space) battle, not a land battle.

And toward the objective of winning that air/sea/space battle, I see no reason that pink haired pansexuals can't remotely pilot drones and push missile launch buttons just as well as anyone else. While a military made of such may fail in other types of conflicts, I don't see it as a problem in this one. Indeed, I'm not sure that anyone would notice the difference in capability if the Air Force was entirely staffed by 300 lb nose pierced lesbians. It might matter at JSOC, but probably not at SPACECOM.

And if the battle for Taiwan reaches the point where ground troops are necessary, then it won't matter whether they are macho men or prancing pixies, because the battle is lost either way. For this conflict, we only need video game players, not necessarily warriors.


However, if there is anyone left in DC who hasn't already sold out to China, I'm unable to discern their existence.

Blogger RC May 24, 2021 2:52 PM  

@stevev

It's even simpler than that. Look up the properties of arsine just for one example. I would never live in proximity to a fab, especially a university fab.

Blogger Silly but True May 24, 2021 3:03 PM  

The chink in Australia’s armor exposes itself.

Blogger Balkan Yankee May 24, 2021 3:14 PM  

If China has confidence in its ability to win a quick victory over Taiwan, it will fight.

If China does not, it will not.

The U.S. aim is to deny China that confidence.

Blogger SonyAD May 24, 2021 3:23 PM  

I wonder if the democide by not-vaccine in the west is the Prometheans trying to entreat and ingratiate themselves with the Chinese by acting as their Trojan horse already in place for generations.

Blogger Teleport me off this rock May 24, 2021 3:39 PM  

South Korea appears to understand this, as it certainly doesn't want any part of the Taiwan question.

Why would anyone? Taiwan is a worse gamble and just as bad an "ally" as Israel.

Blogger Yukichi Sensei May 24, 2021 3:44 PM  

For their near abroad, neutrality in the coming conflict is a win for China.

Blogger thethirdcoast May 24, 2021 4:41 PM  

Newscaper312 wrote:It's even easier than that.

Singapore is ruled by fellow ethnic Chinese.

They could "annex" it on that basis, similar to the Anschluss where Hitler scooped up Austria.


There are large, "bamboo mafias," across SE Asia that are the main reason countries like Malaysia and Indonesia are at all internationally competitive.

Blogger thethirdcoast May 24, 2021 4:43 PM  

The Harlequin Romance of Neutron Bombs wrote:And if the battle for Taiwan reaches the point where ground troops are necessary, then it won't matter whether they are macho men or prancing pixies, because the battle is lost either way. For this conflict, we only need video game players, not necessarily warriors.

However, if there is anyone left in DC who hasn't already sold out to China, I'm unable to discern their existence.


Here are 10 of the best e-sports teams:

https://logincasino.org/article/esports-teams-2020-the-ranking-of-the-most-successful-ones62669.html

You may notice a pattern.

I agree with your point about DC.

Blogger eclecticme May 24, 2021 4:57 PM  

I recall some Heinlein book where he talked of the "Chinee half of Australia."


IMO China snapped the whip a little too early. When Australia questioned the 'natural' origin of covid that was all it took for China to slam the door on some major Australia exports to China. Also some steep tariffs. Australia knows it cannot become too dependent on China regardless of what the US will do. See also India and SE Asia.

Also, years ago there was a fishing dispute with Japan so China slammed the door on rare earth exports to Japan. I read that 97% of US anti-biotics are made in China. Seems high as I thought India was a major source. Still, we know what China will do so the US has little choice but to change that situation.

Blogger bramley bramley bramley May 24, 2021 4:57 PM  

All this jibber jabber is wearing me out, can't they just get on with the kick off.

Blogger The Harlequin Romance of Neutron Bombs May 24, 2021 5:18 PM  

Balkan Yankee,

China having confidence in its ability to seize Taiwan is only the beginning of their calculation. They must consider what comes after that. The US Navy can, at any time it chooses, deny the world's oceans (if not the Taiwan Strait itself) to any or all Chinese commerce. Including oil. Just to name one potential consequence of a rash Chinese move. There are no doubt more than I can list. I'm sure the CCP has a list.

Blogger Pathfinderlight May 24, 2021 5:28 PM  

China has plenty of people they can ship to Australia and New Zealand after they win the war. Birth rates can change, and would be very high for the new settlers when they deprive the white liberal elites of those countries of all their nice big homes.

Blogger Pytor May 24, 2021 5:33 PM  

China engaged in imperial expansion during Tang Dynasty which ended badly. Since this time they have an isolationt policy as a lesson of history.
I doubt they want to expand much beyond taiwan and some small islands

Blogger Azimus May 24, 2021 6:09 PM  

Russia retook the Crimea with nary a shot being fired, and the West quivered in rage at their insolence but did nothing.

I expect that has greatly encouraged China w/regard to Taiwan, similar to how Taranto encouraged the Japanese regarding Pearl Harbor.

I am by no means a fan of Communist China but I have to say - the Chinese would be foolish to invade Taiwan. What is the value of having that territory relative to the cost to its prestige and influence and the complete destruction of their economy which they have built over the past 25 years and more? The Germans and French might not have any actual troops or any ability to project force, but they have a lot of buying power and the economic counterstroke would be devastating. China is a net importer of food to the tune of $50BN/year. Is there $50BN of food to be had on Formosa? Remember the old "China Builds 10 New York Cities Per Year?" What are those people going to do if they don't have factory work to turn to? What are they going to do if they don't have food to eat? Maybe the Chicoms think they can control all that, who knows. But a lot of the strength of the Communist regime is that it is delivering wealth and prestige to the Chinese people in a way the West hasn't seen in 75 years - look at Average Chinese Wages by Year, I bet most of you still think they work for two bucks a day. In 10yrs the Average "Urban" Chinese Wage went up 300%. Imagine going from 10yrs of 30% wage increases to starving to death in a month because someone wanted a chunk of land slightly smaller than Delaware that's also, by the way, a burning pile of rubble and dead bodies, booby-trapped to the nines and possibly radioactive.

Doesn't seem worth it when 20yrs from now Taiwan will be begging to join China as the Western world order finally and utterly collapses.

Blogger DroppingBear May 24, 2021 6:24 PM  

Don't TWERK until you see the white's of their slant eyes!

Blogger Akulkis May 24, 2021 6:24 PM  

The Straight of Malacca is what it's really all about. China wants to tax every ship which passes through the busiest waterway on the planet (and there isn't even any locks, canals, or other infrastructure to maintain. They just want the entire South China Sea to be, for legal purposes, a lake.

Blogger Akulkis May 24, 2021 6:28 PM  

>> If Australia declares war on China I will immediately renounce my citizenship and leave the country.


So, you're telling me that if your politicians actually pull their heads out of their assrs, and do something which would allow them to intern every Chinese invader who doesn't flee with nothing more than the clothes on his back, you're gonna leave and never come back.


You are the epitome of an anti-Patriot.

I hope your fellow countrymen grind you into an unrecognizable pulp.

Blogger English Tom May 24, 2021 7:32 PM  

@Akulkis

You are correct about the straits of Malacca being super important to the chinks, but not necessarily for the purpose of taxing the ship traffic that traverses the strait.

China knows in any conflict, its Achilles heel is its need to import and export vast amounts of commodities and goods, the majority of which has to transit through Malacca.

This is why India is beefing up militarily the Nicobar and Andaman islands, ready to interdict China's sea borne traffic.
Control of Malaysia puts China into the Indian ocean and a potential counter to India's moves.

Blogger My Comment May 24, 2021 7:35 PM  

Taiwan seems to understand the futility of war with China now than Australia does. When I lived in Taiwan they were ending compulsory military service for young males. The elite in Taiwan are mandating Globohomo so pretending they can be a serious threat to China is a little silly even to the taiwanese. They are putting all their eggs in the American basket. As Vox notes, they better like twerking.

Blogger English Tom May 24, 2021 7:41 PM  

@Azimus

I think you underestimate the importance of Taiwan to China. Taiwan is the linchpin to China circumventing the first island chain.
If China takes Taiwan, the door to the wider Pacific opens up, and US/Western Grand Strategy will be in tatters, as well as giving Japan an existential crisis, for whoever controls Taiwan has their foot on Japan's throat.

Blogger Ariadne Umbrella May 24, 2021 10:34 PM  

Hey, Taiwan is where the Luon fiber is spun and then knit up for LuluLemon leggings and other clothes.

Those USArmy twerkers would be berserkers: those things make everyone's backside look good.

Blogger Ominous Cowherd May 24, 2021 11:47 PM  

English Tom wrote:If China takes Taiwan, the door to the wider Pacific opens up, and US/Western Grand Strategy will be in tatters, as well as giving Japan an existential crisis, for whoever controls Taiwan has their foot on Japan's throat.
If any country is going to defend Taiwan, it will be Japan. As you say, they have selfish reasons to do it.

At any given moment Japan is probably just days away from building a very effective nuclear weapon. If they chose not to openly become a nuclear power, they might choose to quietly help their former colony openly become a nuclear power. More likely they will arm up themselves, unless they decide you are wrong about China in the open Pacific being a threat to them.

Blogger xevious2030 May 24, 2021 11:57 PM  

Please, send the twerks to fight China. China would do us one of the greatest services ever to make twerks apparent as the national security issue. In the same way diversity entered the US through the military, so to may it be shown the door. Probably from a rooftop. By all means, invade, your own people.

Blogger SmokeyJoe May 25, 2021 2:37 AM  

49. Azimus
"I am by no means a fan of Communist China but I have to say - the Chinese would be foolish to invade Taiwan. What is the value of having that territory relative to the cost to its prestige and influence and the complete destruction of their economy which they have built over the past 25 years and more?"

You are thinking like a westerner not a chinese. Race (nation), culture and genetics. Understand/know those things and things get much clearer. Biology is a "Nazi"...as it were.

Blogger Canadian Warlord May 25, 2021 3:19 AM  

For anyone planning on a future China being strangled by sea, remember that there are always realpolitik responses. Like pipelines to Russia and increased cooperation.

As of right now, Russian energy and Chinese demand are barely linked by commerce. And only very recently. Encouraging that alliance is not in our greatest long term interests.

China may also grow pipeline hairs into Central Asia. Or buy more of Canada (a lot of China's investment in Canada isn't useful to Chinese refining, it's heavy crude).

"Moon is a Harsh Mistress" has a Chinese hold on Darwin Aus. And prenty of Runa too.

Canada to Australia: Hold our beer, eh?

Blogger NedFlinders May 25, 2021 4:03 AM  

Daily reminder that all of this is theater.
A handful of banking families dictate the script to all of these nations. China. Australia. The US. Russia.
Granted this theater has very real consequences for the audience but nobody should be tricked into thinking that these regional satraps are engaged in organic power struggles. The national winners and losers have already been picked, and it's not hard to tell which will be which. If you think that the elites in control of America are in direct competition with other elites in control of China then you can feel free to explain why they're gutting the US military and filling it with women and trannies.
If your answer is "they're true social justice believers" then you're not going to make it.

Blogger Leo Littlebook ID:16216229492837658552 May 25, 2021 5:10 AM  

What I dislike about the China non-expansionary argument is that it applies even better to Japan, and we all know how that turned out. AFAICT Japan only invaded Korea disastrously once before modernization. Yes those sedentary Nipponese have no designs beyond their shores!

Blogger DrivingDissent May 25, 2021 10:02 AM  

One word missiles, tens, hundreds of thousands of missiles.. Materially a theater level anti material, anti-ship missiles can be produced for about half the cost of an average automobile once mass production economies of scale are fully exploited.

The US and other militarily advanced nations have been loath to pursue the reality of cheap plentiful missiles as it undercuts many of thier advantages but the future is just waiting to be stumbled into.

Blogger Azimus May 25, 2021 11:58 AM  

59. SmokeyJoeMay 25, 2021 2:37 AM
You are thinking like a westerner not a chinese. Race (nation), culture and genetics. Understand/know those things and things get much clearer. Biology is a "Nazi"...as it were.


One of the unique strengths of China is their ability to see - and play well - the long game. I think they get Formosa by 2040 regardless - in 2040 they get it for free by popular vote in all likelihood. They can have it now, too, but the price is higher, far higher. What is their incentive to move now, that they would abandon their strategy to eat the west through our own greed? They would risk everything for a trifle.

Blogger Azimus May 25, 2021 12:09 PM  

55. English TomMay 24, 2021 7:41 PM
If China takes Taiwan, the door to the wider Pacific opens up, and US/Western Grand Strategy will be in tatters, as well as giving Japan an existential crisis, for whoever controls Taiwan has their foot on Japan's throat.


Does any of this mean anything in the age of intercontinental ballistic missiles and fusion warheads? Its not like they're looking for coaling stations for their battleship squadron...

I agree, though, that if China starts with Taiwan, they better keep going, probably all the way to Hawaii and Sydney, because Japan's WW2 strategy of just taking what they need and no more then defending it did not go well for them.

Blogger Akulkis May 25, 2021 7:33 PM  

P-type and n-type dopants. One has 3 valence electrons, the other has 5. Put them together and you get the magical total of 8 valence electrons shared between each atom and it's opposite-type neighbors.

Exothermic is an understatement.

Blogger RadixMalorum May 27, 2021 9:48 AM  

Akulkis wrote:>> If Australia declares war on China I will immediately renounce my citizenship and leave the country.

So, you're telling me that if your politicians actually pull their heads out of their assrs, and do something which would allow them to intern every Chinese invader who doesn't flee with nothing more than the clothes on his back, you're gonna leave and never come back.

You are the epitome of an anti-Patriot.

I hope your fellow countrymen grind you into an unrecognizable pulp.


You're mistaking patriotism with statism.

The government of Australia doesn't necessarily represent the interests of its people. Like other western countries it's terminally subverted by globo homo.

Being against going to fight and die in a foreign war for globo homo isn't anti-patriotic. Australia's interests actually lie on China's side due to its economic reliance and geographical proximity.

Australia would be used as a disposable human shield in the event of a war by globo homo. If I were an Australian I'd get the fuck out post haste too.

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